Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain - Overview and Audio Examples
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2018
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Here is an overview of the Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain plugin, an emulation of the hardware used in the Mastering Suite of London’s Abbey Road Studios since the early 1970’s. Heard on albums like Pink Floyd’s “Dark Side of the Moon” and Radiohead’s “OK Computer,” the hardware is still in use at the studio.
Overview first.
9:42 - Quick start guide with audio
18:02 - Presets with Audio
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Thanks alot man m for this I always had the plugin I never got to use it until this video
Awesome snare tone btw!
Great video and great song! I love that tune!
I like that song! Great video, thanks for the explanation.
Thanks for the vid 👍. Just purchased, looking forward to trying it out.
Nice review. For mastering, I've found that the best way to use the plugin is to start from a fully reset device. Then methodically go from left to right in each module. Using the presets only made me waste time going through menu after menu with nothing I liked. The key for this plugin is using in moderation. Try to have a decent mix before you instantiate this plugin. Then use it to sweeten your mix. And yes, you should use a traditional maximizer/limiter after this plugin to catch peaks and to get to final volume.
Precisely my thoughts too. Love this plugin for adding some colour and sweetening/leveling out the mix a little before applying a final limiter.
Thank you very much!
FANTASTIC! Such a unique sound!
Thanks so much for your methodical breakdown of this. Very informative!
Thank you! Great tutorial!
nice and clear tut
Thanks for the tutorial. Very clear and simple (in a good way) explanation. I've just bought this and wasn't aware of the meter bridge component - so that's for pointing that out 👍
Cracking overview, Sir. Many thanks. :-) :-)
An amazing plugin.
Highly recomended
This is awesome, thanks for the tutorial! Every minute is useful information with good demos.
Glad you found it helpful!
Just bought the plugin! Great overview here! Thanks :)
Thanks for watching!
Super helpful! Thanks dude!
Love the frequency choices and the shape of the Eq filters... so musical! Not a massive waves fan, but I do like this plugin.
I’ve just bought this plugin, and your overview is very helpful indeed - cheers!
Thanks for watching!
Great review!🙏👊Thank you!
Great video thanks and your mix sounds great by the way👍
Thanks!
I really appreciate how thorough you're going into this plugin. It is helping me with a purchasing decision since this plugin landed in my "Waves Daily Deal."
Happy to help!
Great review! I really like the artist and song as well.
Me too
I took a while getting to this and I wish I'd found it earlier.I love this plug in.I found the Pre-sets to be really good too.Thank you for your excellent video !
Thanks for watching!
Nice work bro
Thanks for the run through. Seems worth buying forsure.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you! excellent explanation :)
Thanks for the support . I acquired it and now I am more clear with its use. Thanks
You're welcome!
Thanks for your explanation!
Thanks for making this tutorial I want to use this on my indie rock tracks
Thank you for your knowledge
Thanks for watching!
Great video :) Thanks!!
Nice ! Simple ! Basic ! Intro ! Thanks !
Awesome explanation and I now understand better how to use the limiter together with Logic's limiter. By the way, very Beatlesque tune - Peter Mroz rocks.
Nice video, thanks :)
David !!! Nice video
I’ve worked with Maor on a couple of projects. He’s a fantastic mastering engineer, and his contributions to this plug-in are spot-on. The low end preset sounds verrrry close to the mastering job he produced for my band. So yeah, very useful plugin. ;)
That's very cool - you're fortunate to have worked with a mastering engineer of his caliber. His presets for this plugin are definitely the most useful.
Thank you...
overall, this is an excellent overview of this plug. i found it very intuitively helpful. thanks sir.
watch the Lu Diaz to actually learn how to use it
10 thousand times better than the waves tutorial, tnx
thanks alot, this was a great video, helped me to understand this plugin way better. I just got the Abbey Road Collection during Waves sale right now and I'm loving the ability to learn these kind of tools with more analog context for my mixing understanding.
Glad to help. I love the Abbey Road stuff too!
GREAT! Thanks.
i have this plugin and i must say that they are all good...it just depends on the type of music...what might not work for pop might work for R/b..etc...but it works
excelente muchas gracias
great video! im still trying to wrap my head around mastering and just bought this plugin. its still really confusing to me but i greatly appreciate your explanations
btw just subscribed to you. good stuff, my friend :)
Thanks!
@@GreenLightSound no prob! stay connected if u can
TY Bro
Thanks for watching!
Nice, just purchased this and will be trying it out. Reminds me of t-racks with more detailed options. I think I’m going to master some material with this but will also be sending the material out to a professional engineer to see how the mixes differ.
Just remember to use a mastering grade limiter after this if you're trying to compete with modern mastering levels.
Nice video. I just got the TG. I'm so blown away by how nicely you mixed the bass in this tune. Do you use any off the beaten path plugins on low end? wow.
Good Sound!!! please show me how you made such a mix! I think that many want to see! thank
I have this, and this video just saved me from buying something else. Thank you.
You're welcome!
Nice song! I am a bit bored with instrumental nonsense electronic music in UA-cam. I might buy this plugin.
I was gonna pass on this plug-in. However, this thorough review has made me reconsider. I have some old Mixes on DAT & CD that this plug-in will be the perfect tool to bring up to standard for release. I also have some new stuff I can use it on as well. Thank you! 👍🏾
You're welcome!
Thanks for a professional tutorial. I really like this plugin, especially the tape equaliser, although I don't really know what it does, but it sounds good :) One question for you; does it happen that this or other plugins stop working and need to be restarted? I am using mainly Waves in Adobe Audition. I am also getting audio dropouts when restarting a track after pause. Could this be related to audition, the plugin or my crappy sound card (Sound Blaster ZRX)? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
I don't think I've ever had the problem of individual plugins that stop working, other than specific bugs that I already knew about. I would check if Waves plugins are compatible with Audition. Could be a sound card issue as well.
As far as the tape EQ, it was originally meant to compensate for EQ differences when transferring between different tape machine standards. I assume you don't need it for that, but if it sounds good, it is good!
Great run through! Maybe beter to A/B/bypass while the music is playing....
Thanks for watching and for the tip. I'm just trying to avoid clicks or pops from engaging the plugin while audio is playing.
7:19 for the meter bridge introduction
Good news: You can now resize Waves plugins with V12
True, but the GUI is still blurry.
@@GreenLightSound It looks sharp on my monitors; are you watching in HD?
@@markallen5839 Mac Retina display.
Regarding the small VST window, you have the ability in Studio One to enable HIGH DPI mode, that makes the window more readable. It's the same place where you refresh the thumbnails for the plugins, which i can see you already know how to do! Good video, thanks for sharing! :D
Good tip. FYI - Works on Windows, but not on Mac (the system I'm on).
I didn't check All the responses, but just above the Blue on the far right is a drop down menu that allows UI up to 200%....👍😁
Right next to Save...
One question - I didn't really understand your discussion of setting the "screws" at 18 - and what you were paying attention to when you were doing that - can you explain that a bit? Thank you.
It just sets the calibration for the VU meter, so if the plugin is sent a -18dBFS signal the VU meter will be at 0.
Thanks for the awesome review, I am getting this for sure. What song is this tho?
Pete Mroz - "Back When We Were We"
@@GreenLightSound Thank you do much :) great review btw.
Awesome turorial.. Which plugin would you recommend in terms of a novice with this or a similar plugin. You mentioned The Redd Console, TG12345, etc But out of the 3 for example, including the one in the review, how would you categorize the most important one or for what genres for a sound coloration?
Any of these can work with any genre. The TG Mastering Desk is different than the other two because it's a mastering plugin, not a general channel strip. Being a tube console, the REDD has more coloration and the TG is cleaner. The REDD just has basic EQ and no compression, and the TG12345 has more EQ options, plus compression (though it's not standard compression). None of them is more important than another, and it's tough to use any on their own for mixing. For general, modern mixing purposes, I would go with an SSL-style channel strip. The Scheps Omni Channel is also very good and very versatile, and could host any of the other Waves plugins within it. If you had the Omni Channel plus the REDD you would have versatility plus color - a powerful setup.
@@GreenLightSound Thank you for your wonderfu inputl on such amazing, iconic products. I will keep those wise words into consideration... Much appreciated
YOU DID A GREAT MIX WHAT PLUGINS DID YOU USE FOR THIS MIX ,..I WANT TO BUY PLUGINS FOR THE FIRST TIME IF YOU CAN HELP
Thanks for the compliment. This mix has a lot of Slate Digital's Virtual Mix Rack on it for color, plus FabFilter's EQ, Compression, and De-essing. There also Soundtoys Decapitator on some of the guitar parts, plus the Novatron compressor from Kush. The vocals get compressed with an 1176 and LA-2A. A lot of my mix tone comes from my mix buss processing, which in this mix is Slate's VCC>Slate FG-Grey Bus Compressor>Ozone 7 EQ for a high shelf on the sides only>slight Stereo Widening>Pultec EQ.
Before you buy plugins, demo them and really work with them for a while to see if they are worth purchasing. Better plugins don't always mean better mixes, and you can achieve a great mix with stock plugins. If you're not opposed to subscriptions, one of the best values is the Slate Digital All Access Pass. FabFilter's plugins are also fantastic, though a bit expensive. I really like Plugin Alliance (especially the bx_consoles) and McDSP. Try to get things on sale and build your collection slowly.
Thanks for the tutorial! What would you say are the differences between this and the SSL E or G? How should we decide which one to use? I have both. I'm new to mixing.
The TG Mastering Chain is used more for mastering, or taking already mixed program material and adding the final touches before release. It's not really meant for use on individual mix elements, though I'm sure you could use it that way. The SSL E and G series channel strips, and the consoles they come from, are more likely to be used for tracking and mixing since the actual desks provide many individual channels of EQ and compression. So use those when mixing individual elements, like snare drum, guitar, bass, vocals, etc. SSL E vs G is a matter of taste - they just have different EQ curves and the dynamics section reacts a bit differently between the two - G is a little cleaner than E.
If you are new to mixing, I also suggest checking out my mix prep series and my compression 101 video, as they will cover the basics of mix prep and compression and set you up for success.
Green Light Sound will do, thank you!
Green Light Sound btw, what makes a plugin a "Master" mixing plugin?
@@TheDude-vx6wn Mastering plugins are meant to process complex audio signals like a full mix, rather than individual mix elements. Usually they have more gentle processing, like softer EQ curves for example. There are no set rules though, so use whatever tool works for the job.
Hi Joe, what's the CPU hit like on an instance of this? Could you use it as a bus processor or even channel strip?
I have a 10% CPU hit with all modules engaged using a 4 GHz Intel Core i7. Definitely could be used as a buss processor, but channel strip would be tough unless you had a very small mix or a monster system.
I have the plugin. how do you get the metering plugin, which you state is included?
It should have been included in your installation, just listed as a separate plugin (meter bridge).
*Why does your voice sound phasey?*
@@Ascoundrel nuh its a effect...he has a plugin on his voice...lol
Sounds like a slight distortion with some kind of plugin with wet selection
He use soundgoodizer on his voice
How do I get the Bridge Meter and the Mastering screen open at the same time as in the video?
Hey ! I have constant noise when using this plugin .. how can I fix it ?
Does the duo mean dual mono?
Dude... you know Grandpas' Radio was the best.
I believe this plug in made my nee Macbook pro M1 super slow. Did you guys notice this too?
Do you recommend to remove the mix bus compressor before using this plugin?
It depends. If you've mixed "through" the mix bus compressor the entire time you were mixing, definitely don't take it off as it influenced your mix decisions and became a part of the sound. If you just added it on at the end of the mix process, then you could switch it out for the compressor in the TG Mastering Chain.
@@GreenLightSound thank you so much
hello, is it normal that my gain reduction phase is kind of on negative ? should it be? where would be a sweet spot for that? apreciate your time
I assume you mean the phase meter on the left side of the meter bridge. If it's negative, you have some phase issues going on in your mix. It should be toward the positive (top) for the best phase relationship between the tracks.
@@GreenLightSound on the In section is positive, out section positive aswell. is just at the Gain reduction section it shows on negative
That's normal. The gain reduction meter is showing how much compression, or gain reduction, is going on in the track the meter bridge is connected to.
@@GreenLightSound thank you very much, I tought I was doing something wrong
how should i treat the mastering presets? you said the VU meter should be at 0, but with the presets it was not. Please Answer :)
Adjust the input into the plugin until the VU meter is around 0.
Do you put this plugin on a master track or where else is it going to have the most impact?
If you're truly using it for mastering, it should be applied to your stereo mix print. But you could also use it on the master fader during the mixing process, or even on instrument sub groups, like all drums, all guitars, etc. I would avoid using it on individual channels.
@@GreenLightSound Thanks a lot!!
Wouldn't you always want the compressor before the EQ?
Not always. Some people like to EQ into the compressor.
thank you for you review and using some light rock- most guys do rap or techno and its really annoying - thanks again
Thanks for watching!
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hey how is the name of the song at 8:00?
Pete Mroz - "Back When We Were We"
These came out separately by Softube but they were cancelled for some reason, although this one has some added features.
Didn't know that. Maybe Softube lost the Abbey Road license for this.
Is that Martin Scorsese talking ?
What DAW is that?
Studio One
What song is this bro?
Pete Mroz - "Back When We Were We"
Green Light Sound where can we download the song? It's nice
@@TheDude-vx6wn www.petemroz.com/product-page/pete-mroz-we-ll-rise-above or ua-cam.com/video/Zr69vTuVYeA/v-deo.html
Greg Wells “mix bus love” the worst of all the presets he showed. Lol...
Some presets just don't suit the source material or are just bad. I was surprised that the Greg Wells preset was one of the bad ones given his resume. Like I say in the video, the Maor Applebaum presets are the best starting point.
Most of the presets make the master just louder about +5dB first and foremost. That is not good. They did not a good job as for most of the presets imo
Well, it is a mastering plugin so adding gain shouldn't be that much of a surprise. I do think the EQ settings, compression, and saturation have a big imprint on the sound beyond just the gain boost.
Two of you?
wow talking about mastering software and your mic is all screwed up, small little crackles and pops
My one doesnt let any sound through. pain in the arse and rip off
Would’ve been much better if you toggled between bypass and on without talking or stopping the track, we can see what you’re doing🤦🏽♂️