In long games you absolutely could hold an advantage. Many mistakes are made when players get tired. Imagine Magnus with virtually unlimited focus and mental energy.
@@sanjaykrishnan8379 russian olympic team and whole federation had problems with testing positive for doping at various competitions in recent years i believe so he just does not wanna say anything that some pesky investigators could turn against him in a headline or russian players
@@sanjaykrishnan8379 The entire Russian Olympic team got caught doping and it was being sponsored by the government. There is a really good documentary on Netflix about it.
This man's life is about insight into a position. Insight into a position allows him to take an angle to that position that you hadn't thought of. That can be very funny.
A chess champion with swagger and humor - we are so blessed to have Magnus as the ambassador for a sport historically thought of for "nerds" and introverts - there can be people with great personality, outgoing, and stylish also gifted at chess
Nepo's gotten suspiciously fit ahead of the championship, I wonder if he's been prepping the French defense Anavar variation or the Sicilian dbol in addition to Roid Lopez.
Imagine this was a political topic. News articles would be crazy. "Magnus Carlsen backs the use of drugs to get an advantage!" "Magnud Carlsen admits he will cheat if he starts losing games!"
I thought of this in the past, remember when they had the heart rate monitors on, and Carlsen had like very litlle changes compare to oponents in very intense situations i suspect something like Adrenalin blokade with Propranolol(possibly some other beta blocker) there, witch allows you concentate more in these intense moments. Common tactic among snipers.
"Let's cancel Carlsen! He is a monster!" or "How dares he use sarcasm when there is people who don't have the mental capabilities to understand it! What an ableist"
Not to some extent, I would say! I think it has everything to do with good health! Concentration on a single problem for that long is insane! Definitely requires stamina.
You don't use doping to get into chess shape. Maybe there are drugs that help concentration enough to be a problem I guess but many of the physical doping drugs would likely be as detrimental as helpful to preparing for a chess match. Drugs have side effects that must be managed they aren't magic little pills that turn you into a better you with no effort or management.
I would guess that if they drug tested a large tournament they would find several players that were on something to keep them focused/awake/alert. It is foolish to think otherwise. I don't think it's a problem at the very top of the chess world but I would guess it's far more common than some people think. Video game player are munching on Adderall to compete in their games. When money/fame is a prize there is always someone willing to break the rules to get a competitive edge.
Magnus' reply is gold! My opinion on the topic: What is happening in students is they are getting overworked to death and are taking stimulants to avoid tiredness/sleep to try and maximize study/school time. Though in studies, the results have been shown to have no effect as the results came out to the same as people not on stimulants. I suspect the same with chess as well. People have been trying to find a quick solution to everything all throughout history, including stuff related to memory, strength and speed. But there are just some things you can't take shortcuts with. Chess and other strategy games included.
Magic the Gathering professional players often times take Aderall as a means to try to focus more. So it's theoretically possible that chess players try to use these types of things as well.
Rober Hübner protested against doping tests. His argument: it cannot improve your ability at Chess, but it can help you make the most of your ability, and he likes his opponents to be at their best, so he can learn more...
i mean this is espcecially true considering the meds thatare tested for are stuff like adderall and ritalin,,, which means someone with adhd could get severely fucked by this
@@betterthanyou3465 I don't think adderall and ritalin are strictly necessary, specially for adults. If something is really necessary for medical reason, I guess you can declare it and get an excemption.
As someone with ADD that uses another drug with the same active substance as ritalin I can say for sure that as far as chess goes I play no better nor worse with or without my medicine.
If your ADD meds don't help you play chess, then they are not helping you at all
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@@gurneyqueen5782 That is not true. I am in the same situation and can confirm what Daniel said. But it may help in for a long classical game like they are playing, i have never played classical
@@gurneyqueen5782 my ADHD meds didn't help me play better, it helped me play clearer though. Instead of 100 calculations running through my head all the time (most of which useless btw) I can follow one good line a decent bit which I would have gotten without meds also, just with more effort.
@@gurneyqueen5782 It helps me immensly when I'm in post-game analysis, or if there are distracting elements around me when playing. But in a typical game I am always in an optimal environtment and as focused as I can ever be. I never play long classical games though. For a classical game that is several hours long it would probably be a huge difference, but for a sub 30 minute game, environtment makes a way bigger difference than drugs.
I feel like adderall could help with concentration but I feel like it would also affect your over all flow of play and might make you a little too aggressive and wild. I feel like chess is probably best played with a sober mind but that’s just my opinion
I had a friend who lived off Vivarin and wouldn't eat during finals week: double major in physics and econ. Eventually he had a bad crash and thought he was having a heart attack and stopped that.
"Cognitive Doping in Chess (and Life)," an article by James Hamblin in _The Atlantic_ discusses some interesting findings, including about caffeine. I looked up the current FIDE and WADA regulations, and caffeine was banned from 1984 to 2004, but is currently allowed up to a fairly high blood level, apparently corresponding to at least four cups of coffee.
Nerves do definitely play a big role. If you can keep calm under pressure, you have a very serious advantage because you're getting less distracted by your physical stress response. Doping might not necessarily boost your intellectual capabilities, but it could reduce your heart rate and give you an edge that way. Just a thought.
Yep. There are medicines called beta blockers and they are working like you describe. There were cases in snooker. I would be surprised if they weren't tested in chess by someone.
Kid with ADHD here, I blunder a LOT less when I'm on Adderall. Idk if it would help someone without ADHD or not but it definitely increases my rating by at least a couple hundred points
You can atack cognitive enhacment from multiple vectors. Acetylcholine vector, Dopamine vector, Serotonin vector, GABA vector, redusing neural inflamation, upregulating neurogenesis,… I thought of this in the past, remember when they had the heart rate monitors on, and Carlsen had like very litlle changes compare to oponents in very intense situations i suspect something like Adrenalin blokade with Propranolol(possibly some other beta blocker) there, witch allows you concentate more in these intense moments. Common tactic among snipers.
It's funny, you can get people suddenly stating you're hallucinating with: "I don't believe in sniper's. 😐" in response to your brilliant hypothesis gathering.
@@TrojiteQ Ultra mechanical hypothesis denier's - one's today's society is overflowing with. Your comment could so easily fall prey to the mental machines' rage. Explanation: Because your comment was especially outgoing, far-reaching, yet didn't presented evidence with it at the same time.
@@TrojiteQ It is - a great stimulant! And I hope Angels protect those Gates. Especially, when the stream flowing trough them is propelled by purity of intention.
Interviewer: Are there good drugs for chess? Jan: *sweats nervously* that would be illegal sir! Magnus: Of course, and that sounds useful.. If i wasnt already number one
I think unlike other sports, in Chess it's only useful on lower levels. But on this level..idk. They are so good and sharp it would not make a difference. In classical chess even more so. On lower levels of play you might needs that extra bit of focus or calm pulse and whatever. The only reasons I could imagine at World Championship Chess is either too much pressure or too much stress that you can't overcome with professionalism alone.
The less of a grip you have on the realities on the chessboard, the worse you play. So it might seem "interesting" to you--or very, very frustrating as you got your butt kicked.
@@davidsprenkle2641 I've won every game I've played on lsd and mdma, though my opponents were likely lower rated. However, chess isn't all about winning. You can play a beautiful game and lose.
The part of the brain that creates the feeling "this is interesting, this is profound, this is it!" gets activated by LSD. One guy wanted to find out what his great insights on acid looked like afterwards. He wrote down a key insight on a piece of paper: "Leather objects on floor ---- SHOES!!!!!"
Classic anabolic steroids can affect huge number of metabolic processes (not only those related to muscle performances), including processes which can make benefits to brain functioning. In many sports it makes crucial difference in final result. Fortunately, chess knowledge and skills are still dominant factor. The point is, where the money is, fairplay disappears, and noting is left to chance. Therefore, I support testing.
that steroids could have a benefit on chess performance is very far flung speculation, tbh. There are many more obvious candidate substances that increase focus and wakefulness, for example, caffeine, modafinil, ritalin, adderall, amphetamines. I don't think anyone would even consider roids for improving mental performance
Anabolic steroids don't improve concentration or mental stamina you amateur. Anabolic steroids do exactly what their name implies they build muscle cells and tissue density. The drugs that do are stimulants such as adderal and ritalin, which are in a completely different class unrelated to catabolism or anabolism.
It might not help you understand how to play chess well, but it might give you much more stamina than other players, which could be a factor in certain situations. Imagine a fully charged GM , considerably less skilled than Carlsen, going up against a fatigued Carlsen, at a point in some tournament, say, when both should have expended a roughly equal amount of energy and thus in principle should have been dealing with a similar level of fatigue. Now, it may well be that *Carlsen* would still mop the floor even with such a player, due to his superior skill. But suppose it's a player of the caliber of, say, Nakamura. A Nakamura brimming with energy would have a much better chance beating a somewhat fatigued Carlsen.
Magnus much cooler here. Could be taken for an omen. Effective side-show chess! (Both great, but we do think of Ali Reza, sorry!) Chess is wonderful these days, not like when I started in 1981, although experiencing Kasparow's new style was an eye-opener.
"Creativity." Yeah, sure. Chess players need a rock-solid command of the realities of the board, not a knight that shape changes into a bishop as they're trying to calculate. Too much romanticizing going on connected with drugs.
@@davidsprenkle2641 I didn't say it would necessarily improve their play, was just an idea. Anyway, you're confusing a normal trip with what I suggested (micro-dosing ~5% of the usual amount). At this level there are no hallucinations, just a mild increase in focus and creativity. Programmers have been doing this for years and I would assume they need solid awareness of how parts of their systems are connected.
I hope the answer is no, drugs can't improve chess performance. But my guess is that if it could, it would be in artificial circumstances, like the end of a long and tiring tournament, or in speed chess.
As someone who has taken drugs such as Ritalin and dexamphetamines, it would help if the players struggled to keep attention, but as far as I can see they don't struggle at all with that. Maybe if the game was going on for 12 hours a stimulant would have a huge effect. Their whole life is about chess, they study and play chess hours every day. It would not make sense for them to loose the ability to concentrate on a chess position. Maybe if a local blitz patzer with short attention span played a classical game it would have a significant effect
I would definitely like to see them play on coke or amphetamines for fun and show for us. It would be hilarious watching Nepo rolling his eyes, making faces... Carlsen would definitely have a smile on his face all threw... Just keep it fair boys. No headphones. Doping test is a must at this day and age of scientific progress. Matches have been awesome so far. Good luck to both.
I remember, way back in the doped up 70s, when my best friend, claiming it would "open up my mind," got me stoned and then took me to the newly released Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It was a frustrating experience--I was too stoned to get any of the jokes! That was the first and last time for me :)
I don`t know. I suspect that if it for example help you being awake, it will at the same time make you have less patient.. It might help in speed chess, but i doubt it will be at any help in a 4 hour match. But as i say, i don`t know much about this things. Also i believe the best players have to much pride and know that what will help them for a short time will weaken them in the long run. If i was a runner and cheated with drugs, i would never think about my self as the best runner if i did that. I am pretty sure that players like for example Carlsen and Nepo are doing it more to prove it to them self then to prove it to other.
coffee my choice of drug! after a beer or vodka i play way too aggressive and careless and at some point i tend to loose concentration and the game (on the other hand slight hangover seems to slightly improve concentration and performance)... Weed is nice for positional play, imagination and long term planning, but gameplay tends to lead towards perfectionism instead of practically best play also one could be carried away with irrelevant things, so it makes me prone to severe time management issues and inevitable panic in zeitnot
im positive certain mushrooms must be really really helpful, specially in bullet or hyperbullet, as our ability to calculate through variations and combinations would be drastically improved (possibly hundreds per second, when our mind starts to "race" really fast), instant pattern recognition as our brain would block out unnecessary information and pull out what's relevant to survive as we would enter fight or flight response, our limbic system would do the right things and thus we then should be calmly prepared for any task.
Check out what swimmers use. There is plenty of technology that does not have to be but in ear to communicate. If someone wants to cheat, they will find a way and with the advance of tech, it will be hard to catch them red handed.
so as a biochemist and pharmaceutical researcher and lifelong severe adhd patient and chess player, i can tell you that these medicines have both positive and negative effects on chess, backed up empirically. Medicines like adderal and vyvanse are going to lower impulsivity and increase focus, but with this focus comes a very obcious tunnel vision. the increase in focus comes as a result of what you are thinking about having more staying power in your working memory by blocking the reuptake of certain neurotransmitters in the synapses of your neurons. This invariably makes you think about bad lines longer because you feel positively about them and want to make them work. i can tell you from my own experience my positional play and raw calculation is better when i first take my medicine, but my attacking ideas and sacrificial tactics are miles better late in the day or if i take a lower dose that day. these medications change the reward system in your brain, and that system is what is responsible for decision making and ehat is chess if not a risk/reward or tit for tat game? I would be willing to put money on the fact that any GM who took an adhd meds peior to a game would play objectively worse but would feel as though they played better. if they took a controlled dose for several months to better acclimate and adjust to it, that one is more up for debate. arguments for better and worse have merit and value.
The reason for doping tests in chess is a that such tests are required by the International Olympic Committee. Since the FIDA (I think that is correct -- the international organization that promotes chess / manages ratings / organizes tournaments) very much wishes to chess to be added as an Olympic event they have decided to implement the tests despite the fact that they are rather absurd.
You claim that testing for doping in chess is absurd... You are online You know. All the info about cognitive abilities enhancing drugs at the tip of your fingers. The most absurd fact is that Carlsen pointed to such drugs and potential of abusing them in this video... But you...
@@noegojimmy well, given that the testing has been going on for *years*, with ~750 tests administered, and zero failures (2 people refused to test and were disqualified as a result) vs dozens of athletes being disqualified every Olympics.... The only reasonable conclusion is that doping is either very, very rare in high level chess or they aren't testing for the right things. Plus, FIDA publicly admits that the drug tests were added to comply with IOC regulations, rather than an effort to fix an actual problem. Plus, the fact that Magnus was clearly joking in his response, because he found the notion of performance enhancing drugs in the context of chess to be... Well, absurd. Its certainly not impossible that a doping scandal won't occur in chess -- but it hasn't happened as of today.
@@jmr5125 Better use word plausible and definitely never use absurd, when referring to doping in chess. There's not so much money in chess and it's unevenly spread and there aren't so many top chess players. Something like tennis , which has one of the most rigorous rules about testing for doping and I only remember one positive case. Also, modern analogs of doping substances are hard to detect, control and ban. Claiming , as M Reed, that is absurd is short of only being naive.
Dunno if anti doping makes much sense in chess, Adderall wouldn't really help in chess imo it'd work if you're preparing for an exam as it helps you concentrate more and for a much longer period but wouldn't elevate your creativity and intelligence if anything it probably has the opposite effect, EPO could be a possibility too keeping your energy levels high for a whole game might slightly increase performance but it wouldn't be significant plus these guys can play a perfect 7 hours game without any inaccuracies anyways so I don't see why they would need stuff like that..
Make an unofficial World Chess Championchip with all drugs allowed and see how far you get, I believe it wouldn't help noticably.
I think drug that gives you awake helps in a classical game. Aderall that would help to focus too
Indeed, the third game was played with very high accuracy. I don't think any drugs could have changed the outcome of the game.
May it would if you increase the time limit to 12 hours and forbid bio breaks.
In long games you absolutely could hold an advantage. Many mistakes are made when players get tired. Imagine Magnus with virtually unlimited focus and mental energy.
@@SpectacleChess is it so hard to understand that focus increasing drugs can be taken to increase efficiency
Magnus is the most underrated stand-up comic ever.
Sit-down comic you mean
He was on a Norwegian show called “ikke lov å le på hytta” or “don’t laugh at the cabin” (English translation) and yes he is funny on that show
You can tell Nepo was being REALLY careful not to get Russia canceled with his answer
i didn't even understand what he was saying
Canceled after being canceled?
What's the context?
@@sanjaykrishnan8379 russian olympic team and whole federation had problems with testing positive for doping at various competitions in recent years i believe so he just does not wanna say anything that some pesky investigators could turn against him in a headline or russian players
@@sanjaykrishnan8379 The entire Russian Olympic team got caught doping and it was being sponsored by the government. There is a really good documentary on Netflix about it.
Dang. Magnus killed with that joke. What a gangster.
Would it kill them to edit in the gangsta glasses and the doobie at the end
Bro, How is Magnus this funny? This man never fails to make me laugh.
It was a good response from him
Smart guy
This man's life is about insight into a position. Insight into a position allows him to take an angle to that position that you hadn't thought of. That can be very funny.
Sense of humour and confidence.
It's easier to possess that confidence when you're literally the best in the world.
Nepo was super careful yet Magnus takes it to another level, he knows his game, this guy is a genius!
*Nepo returns to the table with massive muscles, knocks over his pieces, smashes table*
“Chess doping. It’s no joke.” FIDE
A chess champion with swagger and humor - we are so blessed to have Magnus as the ambassador for a sport historically thought of for "nerds" and introverts - there can be people with great personality, outgoing, and stylish also gifted at chess
Magnus had a perfect reply. Lmao
😂😂yup i was about to say!
Hahaha yes
He calculated the best response while Nepo was talking
My guy Magnus keeping the fun going 🏆🏆
I think this question was aggressive and pointed at Nepo being Russian imo. Magnus was there kinda as a bystander to the attack.
Nepo's gotten suspiciously fit ahead of the championship, I wonder if he's been prepping the French defense Anavar variation or the Sicilian dbol in addition to Roid Lopez.
Roid lopez
GOAT comment
LMFAO
well punned
Or the Cincinnati bow tie or the dirty Sánchez
Magnus is funny 🤣
"Drugs? We don't need no stinking drugs."
I love Magnus Carlsen's response so much....
I mean they both look high
Magnus best chess player, not only he is a beast on the game he is a humble and funny person
Magnus Carlsen is many things, but "humble" is not one of them lol
also not the 'best chess player' ...
@@eraykahya8015 Who is better? he s on the same level of Kasparov and Bobby
@@eraykahya8015 10 years on top
@@kristofferopstad2203 Clicked the drop down just for this comment. Magnus is a lot of good things, but not humble! Haha.
"You can't accuse him of playing too well until the headphone falls down onto the board "😂 😂 😂.
Carlsen can be a comedian if not a world champion ... its nice he make fun for us and shows us his happy face
😂🤣 magnus is a savage 😂🤣
Imagine this was a political topic. News articles would be crazy. "Magnus Carlsen backs the use of drugs to get an advantage!" "Magnud Carlsen admits he will cheat if he starts losing games!"
I thought of this in the past, remember when they had the heart rate monitors on, and Carlsen had like very litlle changes compare to oponents in very intense situations i suspect something like Adrenalin blokade with Propranolol(possibly some other beta blocker) there, witch allows you concentate more in these intense moments. Common tactic among snipers.
"Let's cancel Carlsen! He is a monster!" or "How dares he use sarcasm when there is people who don't have the mental capabilities to understand it! What an ableist"
@@TrojiteQ That would be really good for blitz
He'd be called a racist and it would be an example of white privilege lol
@@chrisiver8506 if carlsen was black security at the event would have shot him 10x already
This is why I'm rooting for Magnus. Much love from Brazil.
Hahaha I love magnus man hes hilarious
I love magnus man too.
Chess on this level is to some extent dependend on the players' physical conditions, so doping might be a factor not to be downplayed.
Not to some extent, I would say! I think it has everything to do with good health! Concentration on a single problem for that long is insane! Definitely requires stamina.
this is the only viable answer and I don't know why the players don't acknowledge this. It takes 5 hours , of course doping is relevant
You don't use doping to get into chess shape. Maybe there are drugs that help concentration enough to be a problem I guess but many of the physical doping drugs would likely be as detrimental as helpful to preparing for a chess match. Drugs have side effects that must be managed they aren't magic little pills that turn you into a better you with no effort or management.
@@dandiaz19934 that’s just wrong. Seen 2004 Kramnik?
I would guess that if they drug tested a large tournament they would find several players that were on something to keep them focused/awake/alert. It is foolish to think otherwise. I don't think it's a problem at the very top of the chess world but I would guess it's far more common than some people think. Video game player are munching on Adderall to compete in their games. When money/fame is a prize there is always someone willing to break the rules to get a competitive edge.
That's a killer humble brag... "There may be drugs that make you better... but since I'm the best, I don't see the need to try them."
yet ;)
Magnus' reply is gold!
My opinion on the topic: What is happening in students is they are getting overworked to death and are taking stimulants to avoid tiredness/sleep to try and maximize study/school time. Though in studies, the results have been shown to have no effect as the results came out to the same as people not on stimulants. I suspect the same with chess as well.
People have been trying to find a quick solution to everything all throughout history, including stuff related to memory, strength and speed. But there are just some things you can't take shortcuts with. Chess and other strategy games included.
Magic the Gathering professional players often times take Aderall as a means to try to focus more. So it's theoretically possible that chess players try to use these types of things as well.
Rober Hübner protested against doping tests. His argument: it cannot improve your ability at Chess, but it can help you make the most of your ability, and he likes his opponents to be at their best, so he can learn more...
Chad
i mean this is espcecially true considering the meds thatare tested for are stuff like adderall and ritalin,,, which means someone with adhd could get severely fucked by this
@@betterthanyou3465 I don't think adderall and ritalin are strictly necessary, specially for adults. If something is really necessary for medical reason, I guess you can declare it and get an excemption.
such a cool point of view
What a dumb argument. If he really wants to learn more, he can study or play a computer.
As someone with ADD that uses another drug with the same active substance as ritalin I can say for sure that as far as chess goes I play no better nor worse with or without my medicine.
If you have add then it should clearly help... C'mon
If your ADD meds don't help you play chess, then they are not helping you at all
@@gurneyqueen5782 That is not true. I am in the same situation and can confirm what Daniel said. But it may help in for a long classical game like they are playing, i have never played classical
@@gurneyqueen5782 my ADHD meds didn't help me play better, it helped me play clearer though. Instead of 100 calculations running through my head all the time (most of which useless btw) I can follow one good line a decent bit which I would have gotten without meds also, just with more effort.
@@gurneyqueen5782 It helps me immensly when I'm in post-game analysis, or if there are distracting elements around me when playing. But in a typical game I am always in an optimal environtment and as focused as I can ever be. I never play long classical games though. For a classical game that is several hours long it would probably be a huge difference, but for a sub 30 minute game, environtment makes a way bigger difference than drugs.
I feel like adderall could help with concentration but I feel like it would also affect your over all flow of play and might make you a little too aggressive and wild. I feel like chess is probably best played with a sober mind but that’s just my opinion
Might affect sleeping also
It could help for a few games, but long term it would have an affect on your body
It helps. Big time.
There's a reason these substances are banned. Many improve performance in higher order cognitive tasks.
Would be interesting to see how micro-dosing LSD affects chess performance given that it supposedly increases creativity.
1:42 😂😂🤣🤣 I love magnus sense of humor
I had a friend who lived off Vivarin and wouldn't eat during finals week: double major in physics and econ. Eventually he had a bad crash and thought he was having a heart attack and stopped that.
I love carelsons answer
King
i feel like you could make a tv series, or rather miniseries about drugs in chess based on a prodigy with a dramatic past but what do i know
Maybe call it the queens gambit?
@@macbot21 did you really have to make it so obvious? It was funnier before you chimed in
@@HAL--vf6cg it actually went over my head 😅
Ian just makes the best random faces, Magnus is right there with him of course
Magnus being completely honest there😂😂
I’ve known some people that play some great chess while drunk.
I don't play "great" chess even when sober. But I do play some FUN chess while drunk.
Grishuk
There is a reason why Magnus called DrDrunkenstein by many people
Carlsen used vodka during the last day of 2012 blitz championship and beat quite a lot of people.
“If my level of chess starts to drop I may start experimenting “ .. 😂🤣
I’m on fire tonight
"Cognitive Doping in Chess (and Life)," an article by James Hamblin in _The Atlantic_ discusses some interesting findings, including about caffeine.
I looked up the current FIDE and WADA regulations, and caffeine was banned from 1984 to 2004, but is currently allowed up to a fairly high blood level, apparently corresponding to at least four cups of coffee.
Sorry can you smoke during the match?
@@user-mi1gy3ee3n I believe Sasha used to take smoke breaks in classical events
aspirin got him where he is today
TBF the kasparov- Karpov 6 month match they were using all kinds of stimulants. Karpov by mid match looked high strung.
it could be done to relax their nerves .just like in sports like shooting or archery
Nerves do definitely play a big role. If you can keep calm under pressure, you have a very serious advantage because you're getting less distracted by your physical stress response. Doping might not necessarily boost your intellectual capabilities, but it could reduce your heart rate and give you an edge that way. Just a thought.
Yep. There are medicines called beta blockers and they are working like you describe. There were cases in snooker. I would be surprised if they weren't tested in chess by someone.
I ❤ Carlsen
modafinil would definitely help both with studying and concentration during games
Nepo is lowkeye kinda cute ngl
Like a big teddy bear with an embedded evaluation bar
Sussy baka
Didn’t see Magnus’ joke coming. That was really funny.
What is the meaning of that headphone phrase which Ian mentioned
Hahahaha Magnus answer was magnificent.
You can see what Magnus is thinking!
"This question is too dopey for words."
Kid with ADHD here, I blunder a LOT less when I'm on Adderall. Idk if it would help someone without ADHD or not but it definitely increases my rating by at least a couple hundred points
Nepo was being REALLY careful not to get Russia canceled with his answer
Everyone knows that magnus is smoking.....
*SMOKING HOT*
The green pills😂
You can atack cognitive enhacment from multiple vectors. Acetylcholine vector, Dopamine vector, Serotonin vector, GABA vector, redusing neural inflamation, upregulating neurogenesis,… I thought of this in the past, remember when they had the heart rate monitors on, and Carlsen had like very litlle changes compare to oponents in very intense situations i suspect something like Adrenalin blokade with Propranolol(possibly some other beta blocker) there, witch allows you concentate more in these intense moments. Common tactic among snipers.
It's funny, you can get people suddenly stating you're hallucinating with: "I don't believe in sniper's. 😐" in response to your brilliant hypothesis gathering.
@@Filemonefly9 what?
@@TrojiteQ Ultra mechanical hypothesis denier's - one's today's society is overflowing with.
Your comment could so easily fall prey to the mental machines' rage.
Explanation: Because your comment was especially outgoing, far-reaching, yet didn't presented evidence with it at the same time.
@@Filemonefly9 i accually presented some evidence. Carlesen’s hearth rate. Yes its pure speculation, but its suspiciuos.
@@TrojiteQ It is - a great stimulant! And I hope Angels protect those Gates. Especially, when the stream flowing trough them is propelled by purity of intention.
Magnus is really DOPE!
Magnus is soo cool and funny :-))))
Interviewer: Are there good drugs for chess?
Jan: *sweats nervously* that would be illegal sir!
Magnus: Of course, and that sounds useful.. If i wasnt already number one
Haha, best answer by Magnus :-)
Low doses of speed administered so there would be no dumps could definitely help focusing and staying awake
Se ganó las gafas de Thug Life....
Of course it pumps up your chess game. Have you seen The Queen's Gambit?
In Dubai they have canned Aquafina. Also Magnus be smokin hella weeds, 420 BlAzE iT.
I think unlike other sports, in Chess it's only useful on lower levels. But on this level..idk. They are so good and sharp it would not make a difference. In classical chess even more so. On lower levels of play you might needs that extra bit of focus or calm pulse and whatever. The only reasons I could imagine at World Championship Chess is either too much pressure or too much stress that you can't overcome with professionalism alone.
Playing Chess on Acid would be interesting.
It's quite fun on low doses or before shortly before peak on moderate doses. Feels very creative, energetic, dynamic.
Bro I’d prob feel like I’m in a whole ass war for my life lmao
The less of a grip you have on the realities on the chessboard, the worse you play. So it might seem "interesting" to you--or very, very frustrating as you got your butt kicked.
@@davidsprenkle2641 I've won every game I've played on lsd and mdma, though my opponents were likely lower rated. However, chess isn't all about winning. You can play a beautiful game and lose.
The part of the brain that creates the feeling "this is interesting, this is profound, this is it!" gets activated by LSD.
One guy wanted to find out what his great insights on acid looked like afterwards. He wrote down a key insight on a piece of paper:
"Leather objects on floor ---- SHOES!!!!!"
Classic anabolic steroids can affect huge number of metabolic processes (not only those related to muscle performances), including processes which can make benefits to brain functioning. In many sports it makes crucial difference in final result. Fortunately, chess knowledge and skills are still dominant factor. The point is, where the money is, fairplay disappears, and noting is left to chance. Therefore, I support testing.
that steroids could have a benefit on chess performance is very far flung speculation, tbh. There are many more obvious candidate substances that increase focus and wakefulness, for example, caffeine, modafinil, ritalin, adderall, amphetamines. I don't think anyone would even consider roids for improving mental performance
@@martinpaddle thank you.... I want to be a better chess player let me take steroids. That should help me get a 2800 rating 😂😂😂😂
This is not about steroids.
Anabolic steroids don't improve concentration or mental stamina you amateur. Anabolic steroids do exactly what their name implies they build muscle cells and tissue density. The drugs that do are stimulants such as adderal and ritalin, which are in a completely different class unrelated to catabolism or anabolism.
Testing for DMT because it can help you break through!!! Especially in a congested middle game!
The chess pieces will actually tell you where to move them... it's pure magic.
Best answer to the dumb policy lol
ask harman
Magnus talks in Classical speed as well
It might not help you understand how to play chess well, but it might give you much more stamina than other players, which could be a factor in certain situations. Imagine a fully charged GM , considerably less skilled than Carlsen, going up against a fatigued Carlsen, at a point in some tournament, say, when both should have expended a roughly equal amount of energy and thus in principle should have been dealing with a similar level of fatigue. Now, it may well be that *Carlsen* would still mop the floor even with such a player, due to his superior skill. But suppose it's a player of the caliber of, say, Nakamura. A Nakamura brimming with energy would have a much better chance beating a somewhat fatigued Carlsen.
PE drugs in chess can also give you confidence or reduce anxiety.
@@howard5992 The drugs can also affect your risk to reward ratio. Maybe influencing players to take risker moves.
Are you saying that Nakamura takes drugs to play chess?
Good point.
Caffeine would do it.
I believe there are also effects on reaction time and memory.
Magnus much cooler here. Could be taken for an omen. Effective side-show chess! (Both great, but we do think of Ali Reza, sorry!) Chess is wonderful these days, not like when I started in 1981, although experiencing Kasparow's new style was an eye-opener.
Carlsen has a real good sense of humour;)
what even are the prohibited substances for chess and why?
Magnus 😂💪🔥
Do they get tested for IEM or something like that?
how did he not mention the bongcloud?
Would be interesting to see how micro-dosing LSD affects chess performance given that it supposedly increases creativity.
"Creativity." Yeah, sure. Chess players need a rock-solid command of the realities of the board, not a knight that shape changes into a bishop as they're trying to calculate. Too much romanticizing going on connected with drugs.
It would be interesting to watch players trying to ride the knight on the board, or talking to the pieces. "I told you to move King!!!"
@@davidsprenkle2641 you obviously have no idea how lsd works
@@davidsprenkle2641 I didn't say it would necessarily improve their play, was just an idea. Anyway, you're confusing a normal trip with what I suggested (micro-dosing ~5% of the usual amount). At this level there are no hallucinations, just a mild increase in focus and creativity. Programmers have been doing this for years and I would assume they need solid awareness of how parts of their systems are connected.
@@davidsprenkle2641 shrooomsss....
They both sound high on Marijuana XD
I hope the answer is no, drugs can't improve chess performance. But my guess is that if it could, it would be in artificial circumstances, like the end of a long and tiring tournament, or in speed chess.
As someone who has taken drugs such as Ritalin and dexamphetamines, it would help if the players struggled to keep attention, but as far as I can see they don't struggle at all with that. Maybe if the game was going on for 12 hours a stimulant would have a huge effect. Their whole life is about chess, they study and play chess hours every day. It would not make sense for them to loose the ability to concentrate on a chess position. Maybe if a local blitz patzer with short attention span played a classical game it would have a significant effect
It's called Ritalin and it is typically used to "treat" kids with ADHD. It makes them extremely focused. I know of ppl who used it for an exam
coffe is what most people use is coffe ban or some high level ban ?
I would definitely like to see them play on coke or amphetamines for fun and show for us.
It would be hilarious watching Nepo rolling his eyes, making faces... Carlsen would definitely have a smile on his face all threw...
Just keep it fair boys. No headphones. Doping test is a must at this day and age of scientific progress.
Matches have been awesome so far.
Good luck to both.
Magnus- bitches, do I look like I need some kinda drug?
What the hell Magnus hahahhaha
I remember, way back in the doped up 70s, when my best friend, claiming it would "open up my mind," got me stoned and then took me to the newly released Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It was a frustrating experience--I was too stoned to get any of the jokes! That was the first and last time for me :)
I don`t know.
I suspect that if it for example help you being awake, it will at the same time make you have less patient..
It might help in speed chess, but i doubt it will be at any help in a 4 hour match.
But as i say, i don`t know much about this things.
Also i believe the best players have to much pride and know that what will help them for a short time will weaken them in the long run.
If i was a runner and cheated with drugs, i would never think about my self as the best runner if i did that.
I am pretty sure that players like for example Carlsen and Nepo are doing it more to prove it to them self then to prove it to other.
Ritalin would definitely help in a match. Even caffeine would. I wonder about snow though
So they saw this video then now they asking him to do a anti doping test
Wesley So has to be careful there’s no traces of Catnip under his finger nails before he walks into a board tournament.
coffee my choice of drug! after a beer or vodka i play way too aggressive and careless and at some point i tend to loose concentration and the game (on the other hand slight hangover seems to slightly improve concentration and performance)... Weed is nice for positional play, imagination and long term planning, but gameplay tends to lead towards perfectionism instead of practically best play also one could be carried away with irrelevant things, so it makes me prone to severe time management issues and inevitable panic in zeitnot
im positive certain mushrooms must be really really helpful, specially in bullet or hyperbullet, as our ability to calculate through variations and combinations would be drastically improved (possibly hundreds per second, when our mind starts to "race" really fast), instant pattern recognition as our brain would block out unnecessary information and pull out what's relevant to survive as we would enter fight or flight response, our limbic system would do the right things and thus we then should be calmly prepared for any task.
Check out what swimmers use. There is plenty of technology that does not have to be but in ear to communicate. If someone wants to cheat, they will find a way and with the advance of tech, it will be hard to catch them red handed.
Just take two shots of whiskey, youll start saccing everything
so as a biochemist and pharmaceutical researcher and lifelong severe adhd patient and chess player, i can tell you that these medicines have both positive and negative effects on chess, backed up empirically. Medicines like adderal and vyvanse are going to lower impulsivity and increase focus, but with this focus comes a very obcious tunnel vision. the increase in focus comes as a result of what you are thinking about having more staying power in your working memory by blocking the reuptake of certain neurotransmitters in the synapses of your neurons. This invariably makes you think about bad lines longer because you feel positively about them and want to make them work. i can tell you from my own experience my positional play and raw calculation is better when i first take my medicine, but my attacking ideas and sacrificial tactics are miles better late in the day or if i take a lower dose that day. these medications change the reward system in your brain, and that system is what is responsible for decision making and ehat is chess if not a risk/reward or tit for tat game? I would be willing to put money on the fact that any GM who took an adhd meds peior to a game would play objectively worse but would feel as though they played better. if they took a controlled dose for several months to better acclimate and adjust to it, that one is more up for debate. arguments for better and worse have merit and value.
Next match 30 November
It's MAGNUS birthday too🎂
I Hope magnus win this😇
Imagine them doing coke before and during the matches, going for a fast sniff xD
Nepo seems nervous on Doping Test.
It's a shame cause I'd love to listen to music while I play
The reason for doping tests in chess is a that such tests are required by the International Olympic Committee. Since the FIDA (I think that is correct -- the international organization that promotes chess / manages ratings / organizes tournaments) very much wishes to chess to be added as an Olympic event they have decided to implement the tests despite the fact that they are rather absurd.
Why talk about something you know you've got no clue about.
You claim that testing for doping in chess is absurd...
You are online You know. All the info about cognitive abilities enhancing drugs at the tip of your fingers.
The most absurd fact is that Carlsen pointed to such drugs and potential of abusing them in this video...
But you...
@@noegojimmy well, given that the testing has been going on for *years*, with ~750 tests administered, and zero failures (2 people refused to test and were disqualified as a result) vs dozens of athletes being disqualified every Olympics.... The only reasonable conclusion is that doping is either very, very rare in high level chess or they aren't testing for the right things.
Plus, FIDA publicly admits that the drug tests were added to comply with IOC regulations, rather than an effort to fix an actual problem.
Plus, the fact that Magnus was clearly joking in his response, because he found the notion of performance enhancing drugs in the context of chess to be... Well, absurd.
Its certainly not impossible that a doping scandal won't occur in chess -- but it hasn't happened as of today.
@@jmr5125 Better use word plausible and definitely never use absurd, when referring to doping in chess.
There's not so much money in chess and it's unevenly spread and there aren't so many top chess players.
Something like tennis , which has one of the most rigorous rules about testing for doping and I only remember one positive case.
Also, modern analogs of doping substances are hard to detect, control and ban.
Claiming , as M Reed, that is absurd is short of only being naive.
Dunno if anti doping makes much sense in chess, Adderall wouldn't really help in chess imo it'd work if you're preparing for an exam as it helps you concentrate more and for a much longer period but wouldn't elevate your creativity and intelligence if anything it probably has the opposite effect, EPO could be a possibility too keeping your energy levels high for a whole game might slightly increase performance but it wouldn't be significant plus these guys can play a perfect 7 hours game without any inaccuracies anyways so I don't see why they would need stuff like that..