What Did Nepo Say To Magnus?

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  • @NecDraws
    @NecDraws 2 роки тому +4020

    "I like your funny words magic man"

    • @nolastnametysonchu2137
      @nolastnametysonchu2137 2 роки тому +159

      They be talking about how strong RB8 is while I struggle to find the B8 square on the board

    • @FelipeASaito
      @FelipeASaito 2 роки тому +44

      @@nolastnametysonchu2137 literally me looking for the B file while they have already finished their tactics conversation

    • @bohanwithb1546
      @bohanwithb1546 2 роки тому +2

      true

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 2 роки тому +10

      @@nolastnametysonchu2137 I can't overstate how much I relate with this

    • @digressoire
      @digressoire 2 роки тому

      IT Crowd?

  • @edwinchacko1108
    @edwinchacko1108 2 роки тому +4691

    "I have no idea who's better and why" damn, just shows how great they are at the game

    • @vincenzovalvano
      @vincenzovalvano 2 роки тому +129

      ...and this consequently demonstrates how the game itself is HUGE! One day in my opinion chess will become (or it IS?) a Humanity's Heritage for Unesco

    • @Frandahab
      @Frandahab 2 роки тому +22

      @@vincenzovalvano? Is every deep game a heritage of humanity? Because if so, Unesco's list would increase significantly.

    • @blanche1935
      @blanche1935 2 роки тому +49

      @@Frandahab I think chess qualifies given its rich history.

    • @Frandahab
      @Frandahab 2 роки тому +4

      @@blanche1935 A lot of games have rich histories, sometimes arguably even richer than Chess, as is the case of Go or Shogi.

    • @edwardburroughs1489
      @edwardburroughs1489 2 роки тому +31

      @@Frandahab But not really. Go and Shogi haven't got global appeal, although I'm sure they're both great games.

  • @Worldsportstalk24
    @Worldsportstalk24 2 роки тому +3644

    It’s crazy how much they calculate and how much they remember about every position in the game

    • @ahmedhamaidia4371
      @ahmedhamaidia4371 2 роки тому +15

      See ?
      It's unbelievable

    • @dariosiljegovic3536
      @dariosiljegovic3536 2 роки тому +70

      its 5 hours game bruh logical they will remember

    • @joshualogan6655
      @joshualogan6655 2 роки тому +235

      @@dariosiljegovic3536 Still impressive

    • @dariosiljegovic3536
      @dariosiljegovic3536 2 роки тому +2

      @@joshualogan6655 sure

    • @rimbop9266
      @rimbop9266 2 роки тому +267

      @@stephanusghibellino That's true, but it doesn't make it not impressive or not noteworthy.

  • @daemonsoadfan
    @daemonsoadfan 2 роки тому +1882

    "I have no idea who was better and why" - Magnus Carlsen, World Champion, 2021

    • @estefencosta1835
      @estefencosta1835 2 роки тому +89

      What's interesting is there were points that the engines agreed. Levy mentioned there was a spot where the top 5 engine suggested moves all gave 0.00. Many points in that game it was not clear who was really ahead.

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z 2 роки тому +6

      @@estefencosta1835 dont the best engines call preety much everything 0:0?

    • @MrVovansim
      @MrVovansim 2 роки тому +9

      I mean... It was clearly meant as a "stfu, conversation over" from Magnus. Kinda BM, to be honest.

    • @shilpaprajapati4801
      @shilpaprajapati4801 2 роки тому +57

      He is the type of guy who says I haven't studied and tops the exam with full marks

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z 2 роки тому +2

      @@shilpaprajapati4801 now imagine what he can do with 2 months of study

  • @MrSaivasu
    @MrSaivasu 2 роки тому +3105

    Magnus: "I have no idea who was better and why"
    Me who just learned scholar's mate: By move 3 I was already winning.

    • @timnauwelaers6876
      @timnauwelaers6876 2 роки тому +35

      Your opponent never had a change

    • @ziwuri
      @ziwuri 2 роки тому +43

      Actually by move 3 you were losing by at least -1

    • @moda8509
      @moda8509 2 роки тому +28

      By move 6 you blunder your queen

    • @MrVovansim
      @MrVovansim 2 роки тому +5

      I mean it was clearly just Magnus trying to end the conversation that Nepo was trying to keep going. A little rude by him, I felt like.

    • @ppmpyae1152
      @ppmpyae1152 2 роки тому +3

      @@MrVovansim What? They are not supposed to sit there and talk.

  • @arikm5030
    @arikm5030 2 роки тому +942

    "i have no idwea who is better and why" damm, I guess I really do think like a GM

  • @matthewc4451
    @matthewc4451 2 роки тому +679

    This is where you just say "yeah man that's crazy..."

    • @julianooms327
      @julianooms327 2 роки тому +65

      The most solid response to any opening

    • @ahmadsyamil832
      @ahmadsyamil832 2 роки тому +2

      That actually feels like something I'd say haha.

    • @Skafiskafnjak51
      @Skafiskafnjak51 2 роки тому +9

      'That's Crazy, Man. Have You Ever Done DMT?' should be good way to end this XDD

    • @sauravgarg7193
      @sauravgarg7193 2 роки тому

      Once I was discussing french opening with my friend about some weird side line but I discussed it on group and all other friends who don't even know what e4 and e6 is said the same-

  • @GothamChess
    @GothamChess 2 роки тому +6961

    My favorite clips channel

  • @carlkligerman1981
    @carlkligerman1981 2 роки тому +867

    It’s difficult for us mere mortals to imagine the pressure these lads are under. That they can conduct a reasonable post-mortem after such a hard fought game speaks volumes of their quality, respect for each other and genuine hunger to keep better understanding the game.

    • @prestonlee7107
      @prestonlee7107 2 роки тому +18

      they have a different perspective on chess i think, they've figured out how to deal with their emotions even after a hard fought battle. unlike us raging after every game dont win haha

    • @arcadeplayer9804
      @arcadeplayer9804 2 роки тому

      Pressure wise i think magnus has the advantage since this is 5th playing like this

    • @samurai15401
      @samurai15401 2 роки тому +5

      @Carl Kligerman. I can't fathom the pressure Nepo is under but when I think of Magnus all I can visualise is the damn dark souls Boss fight music. 😂
      Logically speaking the pressure should be same but in my mortal opinion I think Nepo is a level 100 character and he is fighting a level 150 special high def , high atk, high HP beast of a dragon that has a crazy hitbox.😂

    • @saydtg78ashd
      @saydtg78ashd 2 роки тому

      you should say some of us that all of us, not everyone is the same trash level as you.

    • @heroe1486
      @heroe1486 2 роки тому

      You should temperate that, many people have gone to war, where you risk you're actually the pawn

  • @Memento_Mori
    @Memento_Mori 2 роки тому +1400

    I really love how friendly they are and immediately talk strategy after the match instead of hoarding knowledge just to try and get a leg up. Chess is such a stately competition and I'm glad the competitiveness doesn't devolve into fighting and social posturing.

    • @estefencosta1835
      @estefencosta1835 2 роки тому +202

      That chat felt like releasing adrenaline and relaxing after a really intense match. The mental focus and pressure must be incredibly high stress.

    • @edmis90
      @edmis90 2 роки тому +166

      Magnus was so surprised by it, nothing like any of his previous WCC opponents lol.

    • @leo.messsi
      @leo.messsi 2 роки тому +114

      @@edmis90 I agree, I believe both Magnus and Ian are kind of sharpminded and they both hate losing and we often see their furious reactions when they lose butttt they both are very chill and professional guys. And in my opinion they're kind of people you wanna be friends with. That's probably why we witnessed this good, very chill conversation. They're dick heads but they're good people and professionals

    • @kimaboe
      @kimaboe 2 роки тому +71

      They are discussing things that happened after they were out of their prep, no reason really to hoard that knowledge, as it will most certainly not reappear in the next 12 games. :)
      Also, people saying this is nothing like previous championships, rewatch the Carlsen-Vishy matches. Lots of post-game analysis by the board.

    • @mahmouds3126
      @mahmouds3126 2 роки тому +17

      Both player would have a full report with all the variations and a review of all the openings choice of the opponent waiting for them so there is nothing to be gained from not wanting to analyze the position afterwards it's just unclassy to do that.

  • @jaredgunkle1562
    @jaredgunkle1562 2 роки тому +422

    magnus is staring at him like this is the first time anyones spoken to him at a chessboard

    • @user-tm4kk8sr2y
      @user-tm4kk8sr2y 2 роки тому +51

      Lmao yeah he was like how is this man talking

    • @p4rzival127
      @p4rzival127 2 роки тому +8

      Why is dude talking???

    • @p4rzival127
      @p4rzival127 2 роки тому +33

      But I guess it's because they are or used to be friends and nepo was trying to not make it like a big Deal...likes airs a Friendly match or something....like win or Lose we still friends

    • @pattininja95
      @pattininja95 2 роки тому +20

      @@p4rzival127 A lot of people talk after the match about positions even when they don't know each other, so it's even more expected between two players who have known each other for years

    • @p4rzival127
      @p4rzival127 2 роки тому +6

      @@pattininja95 yeah....it is Normal.....but in a world championship match it's a little bit Odd .....what if you discuss the same Line in a Later Game!? You know.....I'm all for it .....but I think it's Odd

  • @ChampionJan
    @ChampionJan 2 роки тому +450

    Lol that first sentence sounds like something that the smart kid would say after handing in a test when he made one mistake.

    • @jorgeeduardodussanvillanue46
      @jorgeeduardodussanvillanue46 2 роки тому +19

      Amazing comment, captures the feeling completely

    • @ghetoknight7801
      @ghetoknight7801 2 роки тому +3

      @@jorgeeduardodussanvillanue46 One does not disturb the peacefulness that is a no replies 100+ like comment with a mere compliment. Refrain from such dubious actions please.

    • @martinpaddle
      @martinpaddle 2 роки тому +1

      @@ghetoknight7801 one does not disturb the peacefulness that is a one reply, 350+ likes comment by pointing out that one does not disturb the peacefulness...

    • @dylanblue2271
      @dylanblue2271 2 роки тому

      He seems very keen for Magnus to respect his intelligence. I suppose that's natural, but there's a touch of desperation about it.

  • @user-fb4du2yv8x
    @user-fb4du2yv8x 2 роки тому +561

    These guys can discuss a game they just played from their memory without having it on the board, yet I can't remember what I ate yesterday.

    • @R1C4RD0R3D15
      @R1C4RD0R3D15 2 роки тому +74

      While it is extremely impressive, imagine if you sat down and thought about what every single possibility of the bite of food you were going to take tasted like, only taking 1 bite every 30 minutes, with no down time on how much you were thinking about it. These guys sit and rigorously calculate with every ounce of brain power for hours and hours about each move. It definitely plays a big part in remembering each one.

    • @mckennaConfig
      @mckennaConfig 2 роки тому +16

      And yesterday was Thanksgiving of all days.

    • @goldenehimbeere
      @goldenehimbeere 2 роки тому +3

      This Guy ( Magnus) can play 3 Chessgames at the same time bindfolded

    • @capasapa1980
      @capasapa1980 2 роки тому +3

      @@goldenehimbeere 10 at the same time

    • @maximix5447
      @maximix5447 2 роки тому +2

      @@goldenehimbeere 30 at the same time. Even levy can do 3

  • @cjhamster
    @cjhamster 2 роки тому +575

    imagine being that good at chess, i cannot

    • @ColdAndBrew
      @ColdAndBrew 2 роки тому +76

      “I have no idea who was better and why” is the only part of this video I can relate to 😂

    • @william_shakespeare
      @william_shakespeare 2 роки тому +7

      That's why they're playing for the world championship and you're not

    • @Coorweiser
      @Coorweiser 2 роки тому +3

      @@william_shakespeare ok

    • @palebluedot8733
      @palebluedot8733 Рік тому +1

      You and your friend could just pretend by calling random moves like "Bg4, Qa1, Kg8.... If u take on b5, i have Kc1, Rh8 followed by Nf3" in speed and fake analyze like grandmasters.

  • @duydatyds
    @duydatyds 2 роки тому +82

    Magnus: "I have no idea who's better and why"
    Finally something I can relate.

    • @thienyetan2035
      @thienyetan2035 2 роки тому +1

      Perhaps he does not want to think further. Perhaps he does not want to argue. Whatever the reason, I hate these type of statements because unlike nepo, there are no further insights. Sigh, sry, just abit emo here.

  • @csquaredgaming
    @csquaredgaming 2 роки тому +1166

    When they are saying those moves, those pieces are moving around on a virtual board they see in their heads in real time, and furthermore their minds are blitzing out all sorts of variations on each of those moves in real time, and they are doing this for any position of the game from memory, instantly. Unreal. Fascinating. World-class players, can't wait to see the next game.

    • @PHeMoX
      @PHeMoX 2 роки тому +34

      Uhm, not really. Nepo spend like 20 minutes thinking about the c3 move in the game... Pretty sure those calculations he'd remember after the game. As far as virtual boards, well yes, kind of true.

    • @Ryantrock8888
      @Ryantrock8888 2 роки тому +16

      @@PHeMoX that’s called classical chess

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat 2 роки тому +30

      On the one hand, that sounds extremely impressive. On the other hand, if I tell you "take 3, add 4, subtract 5, then multiply by 2," you would have no difficulty following my explanation. Clearly you end up with 4. In fact, it would sound odd if you could not follow that calculation. So it works in chess. If you spend enough time learning a certain abstraction, it becomes like second nature. Obviously (3 + 4 - 5) * 2 = 4. And to a chess master, obviously 1. c4 e6 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. d4 d5 transposes into the Queen's Gambit Declined. All the "calculations" are mental, because to the properly trained person, they are obvious.
      What makes a player like Carlsen exceptional is way beyond what I can easily discern from watching him. All chess pros look impressive. But the easy stuff, like these side conversations that happen after a game or whatever, those don't seem that amazing. Those seem like conversations between people who just played the game and remember what happened. Surely, if I explained my DotA build in the context of an ongoing game and discussed with my opponent how he could have responded, my conversation would seem like Greek to anyone who didn't play DotA (except the Greeks, I guess). That would in no way imply I was some sort of DotA whiz.

    • @nikhilveeramachaneni7073
      @nikhilveeramachaneni7073 2 роки тому +5

      Tits

    • @PHeMoX
      @PHeMoX 2 роки тому +3

      @@EebstertheGreat DotA is far from being literal chess though, not remotely the same thing. Someone's ignorance on a subject also doesn't make them a complete moron either. I would say the notations of moves is the easy part of what they talk about, understanding the ideas they discuss is a whole different thing.

  • @folk_love
    @folk_love 2 роки тому +200

    So this is what Levy calls 'calculating a game with an opponent afterwards'...

  • @englishmuffinpizzas
    @englishmuffinpizzas 2 роки тому +358

    Wow no wonder Magnus looked so shocked “worst game ever played at a world championship match” is quite the opening line

    • @EGarrett01
      @EGarrett01 2 роки тому +59

      Oh I think there have been worse games, lol. Gelfand lost to Anand in 17 moves in 2012.

    • @MehtaAvant
      @MehtaAvant 2 роки тому +108

      When I heard this line, I thought the whole video was going to be a meme. Even started laughing after Magnus said 'Sorry' in that way. Turned out to be real footage xdd

    • @davidepanceri8192
      @davidepanceri8192 2 роки тому +6

      @@MehtaAvant my same exact reaction

    • @sickandtired612
      @sickandtired612 2 роки тому

      @@MehtaAvant same dude

    • @0FFICERPROBLEM
      @0FFICERPROBLEM 2 роки тому +12

      Well even if Nepo thought it was ugly, it was a super enjoyable game with the exchange sacrifice and everything.

  • @josephnewman713
    @josephnewman713 2 роки тому +51

    I can't get a read on Nepo. He's like the kid in who never pays attention in class, but aces the test because he read the text book two years ago.

  • @jippiechippie8765
    @jippiechippie8765 2 роки тому +495

    This is very insightful into their real relationship based around chess and an openness to share and analyse together. Extreme competitiveness but professionally friendly

    • @MrVovansim
      @MrVovansim 2 роки тому +30

      "share and analyze together"? Umm... It was Nepo analyzing, and Magnus just trying to end the conversation and leave.

    • @TheGrandmasterMan
      @TheGrandmasterMan 2 роки тому +16

      Magnus & Nepo are friends I believe .Nepo was in Magnus team for one (or more) of his previous World Championship matches. They have trained together and played each other as juniors. But as Nepo said before the match started, there are no friends when the game starts.

    • @Stefan0v1
      @Stefan0v1 2 роки тому +17

      @@MrVovansim Nepo was talking so much Magnus couldn't even end a sentence..XD

    • @dalriada
      @dalriada 2 роки тому +2

      @@MrVovansim yes, I think Nepo was fishing as part of a friendly postmortem ,and Magnus just didn't want to reveal anything.

  • @mister-8658
    @mister-8658 2 роки тому +14

    When chess is your only way of small talk.

  • @leolyndo2010
    @leolyndo2010 Рік тому +3

    Nepo: I missed this, this and that.
    Magnus: Yeah

  • @EthanBradley1231
    @EthanBradley1231 2 роки тому +16

    From the first line I thought it was a joke dub. It took me a while to realize that was actually what they were saying.

  • @psychvision101
    @psychvision101 2 роки тому +5

    Nepo utilises the Conversation Gambit, and Magnus has no response.

  • @jamesforosisky8693
    @jamesforosisky8693 2 роки тому +4

    two masters just trying to figure out how to put on the ultimate show

  • @deoTS1
    @deoTS1 2 роки тому +180

    i think it would be interesting to see an edit of this with the relevant board positions and moves as they discuss it. you know, for us plebs :D.

    • @timnauwelaers6876
      @timnauwelaers6876 2 роки тому +8

      That is a lot of work though

    • @ryanrabah2946
      @ryanrabah2946 2 роки тому +5

      @@timnauwelaers6876 not for our Levy...

    • @juliatruchsess1019
      @juliatruchsess1019 2 роки тому +9

      It was done once in a beautiful interview with Vasilly Ivanchuk where he replayed an entire game he'd just played, with numerous un-played side-lines, entirely from memory. Levy did a "translation" video, but the original raw interview footage is fantastic too.

    • @raerawaili1090
      @raerawaili1090 2 роки тому

      I second that motion 👍

    • @Koshak87
      @Koshak87 2 роки тому +1

      @@juliatruchsess1019 omg, that’s like one of the best interviews of chess players ever. So fascinating and a good laugh at the same time.

  • @scottrobinson4611
    @scottrobinson4611 2 роки тому +385

    This helps me realise that modern chess isn't even so much about two players trying to beat each other.
    Instead, it's two players trying to play the best game of chess they can together - but hoping their opponent is the one to make a mistake.
    Both Magnus and Ian played that whole game in their minds, along with countless other games along the way. Magnus just got to move the white pieces, and Ian the black pieces.
    Their collective goal was to play the best moves, because that's the best they can do.
    After the game, they're openly discussing their respective views on the game, and where they think the game could have been improved.
    It's fierce competition, mixed with the mutual pursuit of perfection.

    • @asaravenell
      @asaravenell 2 роки тому +1

      fax

    • @devanarayanababu1996
      @devanarayanababu1996 2 роки тому +3

      wow what a nice way to put it

    • @pianissimo7121
      @pianissimo7121 2 роки тому

      cool way to look at it, i agree with your opinion

    • @chessgains8075
      @chessgains8075 2 роки тому

      Very nice

    • @dionlindsay2
      @dionlindsay2 2 роки тому +1

      A view not shared by my team captain when I played in competitive team chess matches. He didn't like my preference for an interesting game, even if I lost. My first duty was to win for the team anyway I could within the rules of chess :-). I'm with you on this though Scott Robinson!

  • @the-truth-hurts
    @the-truth-hurts 2 роки тому +113

    This is a good example of sportsmanship, and shows respect for the content of the game, not merely the results for the players. Nice.

    • @matthebert007
      @matthebert007 2 роки тому +1

      These player both respect and revere one another. They have a long history of playing together.
      The banter would have been a lot different had it been Magnus and Giri.

  • @randomchannel-px6ho
    @randomchannel-px6ho 2 роки тому +214

    I don't remember Carlsen having such conversations with Anand, Karajkin, or Caruana after their games in the world championship match (well, in the case of Karajkin Carlsen was quite upset at himself for letting Karajkin give him a challenge at all whereas he very much respects Anand and Caruana).
    They both downplayed the proposition when asked at the press conference about their friendship but I think it's quite clear they get along with each other well.

    • @zoranherceg7221
      @zoranherceg7221 2 роки тому +26

      Yeah, a couple of months ago, Nepo said that they are not close friends, but they get along.

    • @kimaboe
      @kimaboe 2 роки тому +26

      They definitely did discuss variations after some of the games in earlier MC matches too. Especially with Anand.

    • @wot_hog
      @wot_hog 2 роки тому +41

      Anish Giri said in his live commentary that Nepo doesn't think Magnus is an idiot. I guess that is high praise from Nepo!

    • @emvv3784
      @emvv3784 2 роки тому +27

      @@zoranherceg7221 its as hikaru said some time ago. “basically none of the super gms are close friends or anything, but everyone is on good terms for the most part”

    • @killerdoc1077
      @killerdoc1077 2 роки тому +4

      @@emvv3784 kramnik and anand are best buddies, even gelfand and anand, I mean Anand is a likable person in general but still

  • @Justaplebxd1998
    @Justaplebxd1998 2 роки тому +34

    looking at this feel like they are just chilling at the bar enjoying games rather then a championship

    • @Daishiman
      @Daishiman 2 роки тому +7

      The bar or library

  • @aeroquil
    @aeroquil 2 роки тому +70

    i cant tell if these are levy's impressions or not, or both

  • @joedorben3504
    @joedorben3504 2 роки тому +5

    1:07 Magnus "I kinda thought you always have some"
    Caption: "???"

    • @WreckedRectum
      @WreckedRectum 2 роки тому +3

      I think he said “compensation, or really “compens..” before being cut off by Nepo. Not “something”.

    • @joedorben3504
      @joedorben3504 2 роки тому +1

      @@WreckedRectum he said "some", sorry, my phone autocorrected to something for some reason. not compensation though, probably misspelled it

  • @xtYao
    @xtYao 2 роки тому +21

    must be how alphazero talks to itself after a training session

  • @pelfinho
    @pelfinho 2 роки тому +16

    It's so funny that Ian gets a full dialog in without ever looking at Magnus' eyes directly. His gaze is always somewhere else.

    • @colinjava8447
      @colinjava8447 2 роки тому

      He's probably looking at his mental board whilst going through positions

    • @jadiellima8922
      @jadiellima8922 Рік тому +8

      Correr o risco de se apaixonar no meio do campeonato seria fatal

    • @qwerty-br9vv
      @qwerty-br9vv Рік тому +8

      @@jadiellima8922 i did not regret i translated it

  • @painleroux9486
    @painleroux9486 2 роки тому +5

    I like how respectful they are to each other , u don't see that in other competitions

  • @TessLowe
    @TessLowe 2 роки тому +28

    What's amazing to me is that when they mention a single square on the board, it instantly conveys an entire position, and all the lines they were both considering at that point. And all before I've figured out where that square is.

  • @chiragamritkar7327
    @chiragamritkar7327 2 роки тому +4

    NEPO was whispering , he did not want to disturb the players playing chess 😂😂😂

  • @vishrutkrishna8469
    @vishrutkrishna8469 2 роки тому +3

    And this was just game 2 where Nepo commented "worst game in a world championship match".....his soul was still alive in the first half

  • @eveniversen4089
    @eveniversen4089 2 роки тому +62

    People said magnus and nepo made blunders during the game, but both of them had 98.5% accuracy.

    • @swipingeverymoment
      @swipingeverymoment 2 роки тому +4

      that accuracy score is not for top players

    • @ppmpyae1152
      @ppmpyae1152 2 роки тому +2

      Thats why they said it. 13 years old bobby fischer played ay like 99.5.

    • @masterofsorrow2699
      @masterofsorrow2699 2 роки тому +3

      Are you really gonna look at the accuracy? Like it literally means nothing.

    • @YMasterS
      @YMasterS 2 роки тому +14

      @@ppmpyae1152 accuracy is relative to the complexity of the game state. Any 2000 would reach that number against any 1200.

    • @dl0.0lb
      @dl0.0lb 2 роки тому +9

      @@ppmpyae1152 it is hard to compare. The game is different now. Listening to some of their conversations, they're talking about strategies finding niche evaluations where they play sub-optimal moves that push their opponent to make natural-looking moves that are mistakes - Meta-strategies that were much harder to develop back then. Accuracy isn't always the best metric for human vs human.
      Making your opponent make mistakes is far more valuable, and that psychology can't be calculated with computers. (So far at least!)

  • @MrJudg3
    @MrJudg3 2 роки тому +2

    Nepo provoking Magnus to play riskier lines.

  • @100_graca
    @100_graca 2 роки тому +1

    It's really nice that you came up with the ideia to bring this after match conversation, I'm looking forward for more of it

  • @hq3473
    @hq3473 2 роки тому +9

    This reminds of how Karpov and Kasporov tried to analyze the game despite tensions.
    It's just such a strong instinct...

  • @BlitzWizard94
    @BlitzWizard94 2 роки тому +46

    i like how magnus is just so amazed or mindblown by what ian is even saying lol

    • @EGarrett01
      @EGarrett01 2 роки тому +52

      I think he's just shocked that his opponent wanted to talk about strategy during a world championship match.

    • @BlitzWizard94
      @BlitzWizard94 2 роки тому +2

      @@EGarrett01 yea

    • @t-rexkalita1379
      @t-rexkalita1379 2 роки тому +34

      Magnus wanted to say: just shut up and kiss me!

    • @ppmpyae1152
      @ppmpyae1152 2 роки тому +4

      @@t-rexkalita1379 WTF

    • @mihailcirlig8187
      @mihailcirlig8187 2 роки тому +1

      @@t-rexkalita1379 no homo

  • @cklester
    @cklester 2 роки тому +6

    I hope they keep letting us hear them after the games! That was so cool to listen to.

  • @govindmenon333
    @govindmenon333 2 роки тому +9

    lmao it feels like the end of a movie scene where the characters talk amongst each other

  • @mile.9768
    @mile.9768 2 роки тому +10

    Magnus looks so confused 😂

  • @TahaNasser
    @TahaNasser 2 роки тому +6

    You can tell Magnus is initially kind of shocked that Nepo wants to have a conversation about it, and is almost hesitant to engage with him. But after Nepo insists on it, Magnus obliges and starts talking haha

  • @cbplayz2374
    @cbplayz2374 2 роки тому +3

    "I have no idea who was better and why"
    Me after playing all of my games, before the computer tells me the 13 ways in which I'm an idiot.

  • @GintaOtaku
    @GintaOtaku 2 роки тому +5

    Levy could make a video explaining those positions

  • @bluelanterns2589
    @bluelanterns2589 2 роки тому +3

    "I have no idea who was better and why"
    At least I can feel slightly better about myself now.

  • @Mach1Airspace
    @Mach1Airspace 2 роки тому +1

    Ian initiated the exchange and Magnus obliged but you could tell he was understandably a little reluctant to open up fully about the analysis.

  • @fatfighterxDDD
    @fatfighterxDDD 2 роки тому +7

    its amazing how these players can be enemies for 5h straight and then just discuss friendly what probably was better, even if this position may theoretically happen once again in a later game.
    love it

  • @them4309
    @them4309 2 роки тому +1

    Finally! We get to hear these conversations. I can't follow any of it, but it's still interesting to listen to pros talk shop.

  • @shashank1146
    @shashank1146 2 роки тому +2

    These sort of videos are highly appreciated

  • @magnus_norgren
    @magnus_norgren 2 роки тому

    exciting to hear their brief analysis. I didnt expect them to discuss that much

  • @cjh-bk4pn
    @cjh-bk4pn 2 роки тому +2

    Bruh I can't even remember the moves of a game when I'm still playing it

  • @tedw6106
    @tedw6106 2 роки тому

    love that neither of them are making eye contact, just visualizing boards in their heads

  • @bravia67
    @bravia67 2 роки тому +1

    Even Stockfish couldnt handle that casual conversation

  • @kornobi_3165
    @kornobi_3165 2 роки тому +1

    Never have I listened so intently to something I didn’t understand a second of.

  • @PerfectZeroMusic_
    @PerfectZeroMusic_ 2 роки тому +4

    This is the definition of a "big brain conversation" that i cannot understand XD

  • @olyou835
    @olyou835 2 роки тому +2

    This is good healthy competition. Sportmanships. And theyre good buddies on and off chesboard. Nice to see both players playing for championship. Ive been waiting for this like ages. 😂

  • @arcjones1991
    @arcjones1991 2 роки тому

    That was some amazing sportsmanship

  • @fahedghodhbane6573
    @fahedghodhbane6573 2 роки тому

    legendary conversation .

  • @m4binuel
    @m4binuel 2 роки тому +4

    It would be so great to see what they were talking about in context of the game on the board

  • @perkkie
    @perkkie 2 роки тому +3

    Would be cool if we could get a board with the positions and moves they're talking about on the side so we mortals can follow the shiny pretty pieces running around.

    • @dionlindsay2
      @dionlindsay2 2 роки тому

      Great idea. That's the sort of thing I can imagine GM Danny King doing on his PowerPlayChess channel.

  • @lionsingh18
    @lionsingh18 2 роки тому

    They have so much respect for each other to be so Frank in discussing

  • @peterclark6905
    @peterclark6905 2 роки тому

    This was so good. It would be incredible to have them both go through and analyze each game together after all of this is over.

  • @nemoyatpeace
    @nemoyatpeace 2 роки тому

    Great commentary. Really enjoying watching the tournament through your eyes! Thanks for the great analysis!

  • @sprajosh
    @sprajosh 2 роки тому

    Fighters on the board. Friends off it. So great to see these champs discuss the game immediately after fighting it out like that.

  • @TorSiiK
    @TorSiiK 2 роки тому +2

    thanks 2021 for give us conversations between players like that recorded on camera, i just feel so privilegiate for been able to hear that, really

  • @Karthik-kt24
    @Karthik-kt24 2 роки тому +1

    What i enjoy the most is that they are such good friends! I'm not really into what the result of the match will be...but the matches will be so much more fun cause of their chemistry

  • @shayansabet6136
    @shayansabet6136 2 роки тому +5

    I just want to say that I love how the two players respect each other and are super friendly with each other even though this is the world championship.

    • @stevelobs6601
      @stevelobs6601 2 роки тому

      Why they should not, there is no luck, no ping, no referee or other points to discuss, if you lose your opponent was better, better day what ever and/or you had make a failure.
      And who is better to analyse than your opponent and pne of the strongest players, dont say an engine.^^

  • @eulefranz944
    @eulefranz944 2 роки тому +1

    Maaaaan looking back this is soooo awkward. You can really feel how nervous nepo is, even before the loss which broke him:/

  • @bluecocacola
    @bluecocacola 2 роки тому +1

    i like how Ian was whispering at the start 😂

  • @TheRealHerbaSchmurba
    @TheRealHerbaSchmurba 5 місяців тому

    I really like hearing post game convos

  • @lowellgeddes8996
    @lowellgeddes8996 2 роки тому +10

    Its so nice to see two competitors at the top level...discuss the game afterwards...dont think Korchnoi Karpov would be able to...

  • @synesthete23
    @synesthete23 2 роки тому +4

    1:28 I like Ian’s talkativeness 😂😂 with no less than the World Champion he’s challenging for the title

  • @ksinitial
    @ksinitial 2 роки тому +1

    "bum bum timmy tum tum bro"

  • @markv6988
    @markv6988 2 роки тому

    That is fascinating! To hear them talk so candidly about the game. So invaluable.

  • @danielemessina1979
    @danielemessina1979 2 роки тому +45

    I can't really recollect how it was in the previous world championship matches but I find it very peculiar that they discuss the game as if they were not competing for the title.

    • @ACSMEX
      @ACSMEX 2 роки тому +35

      Unless they hate each other (or the people running the tournament don't allow it) chess players usually discuss the game they just played to see if they missed something.

    • @THEpicND
      @THEpicND 2 роки тому +28

      Chess is an obsession. As academics they need to know what was better, thats how you keep getting stronger

    • @phenix2403
      @phenix2403 2 роки тому +5

      Its great respect and sportsmanship

    • @janon5815
      @janon5815 2 роки тому +15

      It's definitely very noticeable. Idk if it's actually the case or not but Carlsen seems much more friendly with Nepo than he was with Caruana last world championship.

    • @AdamGaffney96
      @AdamGaffney96 2 роки тому +16

      @@janon5815 This was actually discussed on the chess com livestream, Magnus and Nepo go back a good while and are pretty friendly so it makes sense, whilst Magnus and Fabiano haven't really studied chess together at all.

  • @djlovesyou8302
    @djlovesyou8302 2 роки тому +1

    And I can barely remember what I had for lunch.

  • @theneedytechie2468
    @theneedytechie2468 2 роки тому

    magnus in the beginning is like "wtf you are talking about"

  • @iainbozfelt
    @iainbozfelt 2 роки тому +1

    Who needs a board - just talk it out - still end in a draw !

  • @flexmode17
    @flexmode17 2 роки тому +1

    I look at this back and forth between them as two performers on the grand stage evaluating their moves to see if they could have given the public a much better "fight" (hence Nepo's comment at the beginning of the video). These guys see games in lines, how each single move opens up countless more lines, with some lines that can ultimately lead them to some of the "greatest match ever played" realm.

  • @dennisdeems9293
    @dennisdeems9293 2 роки тому +1

    I can't fathom being able to hold not only an entire game of chess, but also seemingly endless branching variations, in one's head.

  • @6Monto
    @6Monto 9 місяців тому

    love how they play a different game in their head after the main one is over.

  • @AdamGaffney96
    @AdamGaffney96 2 роки тому +3

    I have no idea if their evaluations are good or not I'm just thrilled I'm finally learning how to navigate the board using letter notation and not needing the arrows just to follow. Also Magnus saying I have no idea who was better and why is me permanently.

  • @rixovertig
    @rixovertig 2 роки тому +1

    Peak chess evolution

  • @prestonlee7107
    @prestonlee7107 2 роки тому

    "my opponent is not my enemy" in a nutshell XD

  • @apenasmeucanal5984
    @apenasmeucanal5984 2 роки тому

    hope they went for a beer after that

  • @austinwheeler3665
    @austinwheeler3665 2 роки тому

    Quite a different vibe from Magnus and Fabi refusing to make eye contact during the opening handshake.

  • @DawnEnergy
    @DawnEnergy Рік тому

    so much thought given to the possible combinations of a grid lol

  • @nishantintouch
    @nishantintouch 2 роки тому +2

    Wives : I think our husbands are cheating on us.
    Husbands :

  • @shineed9747
    @shineed9747 2 роки тому

    We're impressed that they remember every moves of the game, but I'm pretty sure they'll remember these matches after many years, insane minds

  • @emerson3574
    @emerson3574 2 роки тому

    Nepo is like foreign germs HAHAHAHA

  • @sabbaghali96
    @sabbaghali96 2 роки тому

    "I have no idea who's better and why"... me too Magnus, me too

  • @neils9565
    @neils9565 2 роки тому

    I think it's so nice that there is evident respect after about a big portion of history where they'd never talk to each other

  • @atomichamster2709
    @atomichamster2709 2 роки тому

    These guys are enemies on the most strategic battlefield of the year, and they are still talking on friendly terms.

  • @iainjohnson4105
    @iainjohnson4105 2 роки тому

    I always hate it when my opponent starts reeling off moves at the end of a game. And then everyone else joins in and you're left thinking was I playing in the game

  • @krishnamgoel514
    @krishnamgoel514 2 роки тому +4

    Watch all the matches be draws lmao