...and this consequently demonstrates how the game itself is HUGE! One day in my opinion chess will become (or it IS?) a Humanity's Heritage for Unesco
What's interesting is there were points that the engines agreed. Levy mentioned there was a spot where the top 5 engine suggested moves all gave 0.00. Many points in that game it was not clear who was really ahead.
Once I was discussing french opening with my friend about some weird side line but I discussed it on group and all other friends who don't even know what e4 and e6 is said the same-
It’s difficult for us mere mortals to imagine the pressure these lads are under. That they can conduct a reasonable post-mortem after such a hard fought game speaks volumes of their quality, respect for each other and genuine hunger to keep better understanding the game.
they have a different perspective on chess i think, they've figured out how to deal with their emotions even after a hard fought battle. unlike us raging after every game dont win haha
@Carl Kligerman. I can't fathom the pressure Nepo is under but when I think of Magnus all I can visualise is the damn dark souls Boss fight music. 😂 Logically speaking the pressure should be same but in my mortal opinion I think Nepo is a level 100 character and he is fighting a level 150 special high def , high atk, high HP beast of a dragon that has a crazy hitbox.😂
I really love how friendly they are and immediately talk strategy after the match instead of hoarding knowledge just to try and get a leg up. Chess is such a stately competition and I'm glad the competitiveness doesn't devolve into fighting and social posturing.
@@edmis90 I agree, I believe both Magnus and Ian are kind of sharpminded and they both hate losing and we often see their furious reactions when they lose butttt they both are very chill and professional guys. And in my opinion they're kind of people you wanna be friends with. That's probably why we witnessed this good, very chill conversation. They're dick heads but they're good people and professionals
They are discussing things that happened after they were out of their prep, no reason really to hoard that knowledge, as it will most certainly not reappear in the next 12 games. :) Also, people saying this is nothing like previous championships, rewatch the Carlsen-Vishy matches. Lots of post-game analysis by the board.
Both player would have a full report with all the variations and a review of all the openings choice of the opponent waiting for them so there is nothing to be gained from not wanting to analyze the position afterwards it's just unclassy to do that.
But I guess it's because they are or used to be friends and nepo was trying to not make it like a big Deal...likes airs a Friendly match or something....like win or Lose we still friends
@@p4rzival127 A lot of people talk after the match about positions even when they don't know each other, so it's even more expected between two players who have known each other for years
@@pattininja95 yeah....it is Normal.....but in a world championship match it's a little bit Odd .....what if you discuss the same Line in a Later Game!? You know.....I'm all for it .....but I think it's Odd
@@jorgeeduardodussanvillanue46 One does not disturb the peacefulness that is a no replies 100+ like comment with a mere compliment. Refrain from such dubious actions please.
@@ghetoknight7801 one does not disturb the peacefulness that is a one reply, 350+ likes comment by pointing out that one does not disturb the peacefulness...
While it is extremely impressive, imagine if you sat down and thought about what every single possibility of the bite of food you were going to take tasted like, only taking 1 bite every 30 minutes, with no down time on how much you were thinking about it. These guys sit and rigorously calculate with every ounce of brain power for hours and hours about each move. It definitely plays a big part in remembering each one.
You and your friend could just pretend by calling random moves like "Bg4, Qa1, Kg8.... If u take on b5, i have Kc1, Rh8 followed by Nf3" in speed and fake analyze like grandmasters.
Perhaps he does not want to think further. Perhaps he does not want to argue. Whatever the reason, I hate these type of statements because unlike nepo, there are no further insights. Sigh, sry, just abit emo here.
When they are saying those moves, those pieces are moving around on a virtual board they see in their heads in real time, and furthermore their minds are blitzing out all sorts of variations on each of those moves in real time, and they are doing this for any position of the game from memory, instantly. Unreal. Fascinating. World-class players, can't wait to see the next game.
Uhm, not really. Nepo spend like 20 minutes thinking about the c3 move in the game... Pretty sure those calculations he'd remember after the game. As far as virtual boards, well yes, kind of true.
On the one hand, that sounds extremely impressive. On the other hand, if I tell you "take 3, add 4, subtract 5, then multiply by 2," you would have no difficulty following my explanation. Clearly you end up with 4. In fact, it would sound odd if you could not follow that calculation. So it works in chess. If you spend enough time learning a certain abstraction, it becomes like second nature. Obviously (3 + 4 - 5) * 2 = 4. And to a chess master, obviously 1. c4 e6 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. d4 d5 transposes into the Queen's Gambit Declined. All the "calculations" are mental, because to the properly trained person, they are obvious. What makes a player like Carlsen exceptional is way beyond what I can easily discern from watching him. All chess pros look impressive. But the easy stuff, like these side conversations that happen after a game or whatever, those don't seem that amazing. Those seem like conversations between people who just played the game and remember what happened. Surely, if I explained my DotA build in the context of an ongoing game and discussed with my opponent how he could have responded, my conversation would seem like Greek to anyone who didn't play DotA (except the Greeks, I guess). That would in no way imply I was some sort of DotA whiz.
@@EebstertheGreat DotA is far from being literal chess though, not remotely the same thing. Someone's ignorance on a subject also doesn't make them a complete moron either. I would say the notations of moves is the easy part of what they talk about, understanding the ideas they discuss is a whole different thing.
When I heard this line, I thought the whole video was going to be a meme. Even started laughing after Magnus said 'Sorry' in that way. Turned out to be real footage xdd
This is very insightful into their real relationship based around chess and an openness to share and analyse together. Extreme competitiveness but professionally friendly
Magnus & Nepo are friends I believe .Nepo was in Magnus team for one (or more) of his previous World Championship matches. They have trained together and played each other as juniors. But as Nepo said before the match started, there are no friends when the game starts.
It was done once in a beautiful interview with Vasilly Ivanchuk where he replayed an entire game he'd just played, with numerous un-played side-lines, entirely from memory. Levy did a "translation" video, but the original raw interview footage is fantastic too.
This helps me realise that modern chess isn't even so much about two players trying to beat each other. Instead, it's two players trying to play the best game of chess they can together - but hoping their opponent is the one to make a mistake. Both Magnus and Ian played that whole game in their minds, along with countless other games along the way. Magnus just got to move the white pieces, and Ian the black pieces. Their collective goal was to play the best moves, because that's the best they can do. After the game, they're openly discussing their respective views on the game, and where they think the game could have been improved. It's fierce competition, mixed with the mutual pursuit of perfection.
A view not shared by my team captain when I played in competitive team chess matches. He didn't like my preference for an interesting game, even if I lost. My first duty was to win for the team anyway I could within the rules of chess :-). I'm with you on this though Scott Robinson!
These player both respect and revere one another. They have a long history of playing together. The banter would have been a lot different had it been Magnus and Giri.
I don't remember Carlsen having such conversations with Anand, Karajkin, or Caruana after their games in the world championship match (well, in the case of Karajkin Carlsen was quite upset at himself for letting Karajkin give him a challenge at all whereas he very much respects Anand and Caruana). They both downplayed the proposition when asked at the press conference about their friendship but I think it's quite clear they get along with each other well.
@@zoranherceg7221 its as hikaru said some time ago. “basically none of the super gms are close friends or anything, but everyone is on good terms for the most part”
What's amazing to me is that when they mention a single square on the board, it instantly conveys an entire position, and all the lines they were both considering at that point. And all before I've figured out where that square is.
@@ppmpyae1152 it is hard to compare. The game is different now. Listening to some of their conversations, they're talking about strategies finding niche evaluations where they play sub-optimal moves that push their opponent to make natural-looking moves that are mistakes - Meta-strategies that were much harder to develop back then. Accuracy isn't always the best metric for human vs human. Making your opponent make mistakes is far more valuable, and that psychology can't be calculated with computers. (So far at least!)
You can tell Magnus is initially kind of shocked that Nepo wants to have a conversation about it, and is almost hesitant to engage with him. But after Nepo insists on it, Magnus obliges and starts talking haha
its amazing how these players can be enemies for 5h straight and then just discuss friendly what probably was better, even if this position may theoretically happen once again in a later game. love it
This is good healthy competition. Sportmanships. And theyre good buddies on and off chesboard. Nice to see both players playing for championship. Ive been waiting for this like ages. 😂
Would be cool if we could get a board with the positions and moves they're talking about on the side so we mortals can follow the shiny pretty pieces running around.
What i enjoy the most is that they are such good friends! I'm not really into what the result of the match will be...but the matches will be so much more fun cause of their chemistry
I just want to say that I love how the two players respect each other and are super friendly with each other even though this is the world championship.
Why they should not, there is no luck, no ping, no referee or other points to discuss, if you lose your opponent was better, better day what ever and/or you had make a failure. And who is better to analyse than your opponent and pne of the strongest players, dont say an engine.^^
I can't really recollect how it was in the previous world championship matches but I find it very peculiar that they discuss the game as if they were not competing for the title.
Unless they hate each other (or the people running the tournament don't allow it) chess players usually discuss the game they just played to see if they missed something.
It's definitely very noticeable. Idk if it's actually the case or not but Carlsen seems much more friendly with Nepo than he was with Caruana last world championship.
@@janon5815 This was actually discussed on the chess com livestream, Magnus and Nepo go back a good while and are pretty friendly so it makes sense, whilst Magnus and Fabiano haven't really studied chess together at all.
I look at this back and forth between them as two performers on the grand stage evaluating their moves to see if they could have given the public a much better "fight" (hence Nepo's comment at the beginning of the video). These guys see games in lines, how each single move opens up countless more lines, with some lines that can ultimately lead them to some of the "greatest match ever played" realm.
I have no idea if their evaluations are good or not I'm just thrilled I'm finally learning how to navigate the board using letter notation and not needing the arrows just to follow. Also Magnus saying I have no idea who was better and why is me permanently.
I always hate it when my opponent starts reeling off moves at the end of a game. And then everyone else joins in and you're left thinking was I playing in the game
"I like your funny words magic man"
They be talking about how strong RB8 is while I struggle to find the B8 square on the board
@@nolastnametysonchu2137 literally me looking for the B file while they have already finished their tactics conversation
true
@@nolastnametysonchu2137 I can't overstate how much I relate with this
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"I have no idea who's better and why" damn, just shows how great they are at the game
...and this consequently demonstrates how the game itself is HUGE! One day in my opinion chess will become (or it IS?) a Humanity's Heritage for Unesco
@@vincenzovalvano? Is every deep game a heritage of humanity? Because if so, Unesco's list would increase significantly.
@@Frandahab I think chess qualifies given its rich history.
@@blanche1935 A lot of games have rich histories, sometimes arguably even richer than Chess, as is the case of Go or Shogi.
@@Frandahab But not really. Go and Shogi haven't got global appeal, although I'm sure they're both great games.
It’s crazy how much they calculate and how much they remember about every position in the game
See ?
It's unbelievable
its 5 hours game bruh logical they will remember
@@dariosiljegovic3536 Still impressive
@@joshualogan6655 sure
@@stephanusghibellino That's true, but it doesn't make it not impressive or not noteworthy.
"I have no idea who was better and why" - Magnus Carlsen, World Champion, 2021
What's interesting is there were points that the engines agreed. Levy mentioned there was a spot where the top 5 engine suggested moves all gave 0.00. Many points in that game it was not clear who was really ahead.
@@estefencosta1835 dont the best engines call preety much everything 0:0?
I mean... It was clearly meant as a "stfu, conversation over" from Magnus. Kinda BM, to be honest.
He is the type of guy who says I haven't studied and tops the exam with full marks
@@shilpaprajapati4801 now imagine what he can do with 2 months of study
Magnus: "I have no idea who was better and why"
Me who just learned scholar's mate: By move 3 I was already winning.
Your opponent never had a change
Actually by move 3 you were losing by at least -1
By move 6 you blunder your queen
I mean it was clearly just Magnus trying to end the conversation that Nepo was trying to keep going. A little rude by him, I felt like.
@@MrVovansim What? They are not supposed to sit there and talk.
"i have no idwea who is better and why" damm, I guess I really do think like a GM
😂 lol
"Mom Im world champion now"
@@ppmpyae1152 buddy go for the wc next time 😂
It was a draw, though.
This is where you just say "yeah man that's crazy..."
The most solid response to any opening
That actually feels like something I'd say haha.
'That's Crazy, Man. Have You Ever Done DMT?' should be good way to end this XDD
Once I was discussing french opening with my friend about some weird side line but I discussed it on group and all other friends who don't even know what e4 and e6 is said the same-
My favorite clips channel
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Unbiased
Didn’t expect to see you here
It’s difficult for us mere mortals to imagine the pressure these lads are under. That they can conduct a reasonable post-mortem after such a hard fought game speaks volumes of their quality, respect for each other and genuine hunger to keep better understanding the game.
they have a different perspective on chess i think, they've figured out how to deal with their emotions even after a hard fought battle. unlike us raging after every game dont win haha
Pressure wise i think magnus has the advantage since this is 5th playing like this
@Carl Kligerman. I can't fathom the pressure Nepo is under but when I think of Magnus all I can visualise is the damn dark souls Boss fight music. 😂
Logically speaking the pressure should be same but in my mortal opinion I think Nepo is a level 100 character and he is fighting a level 150 special high def , high atk, high HP beast of a dragon that has a crazy hitbox.😂
you should say some of us that all of us, not everyone is the same trash level as you.
You should temperate that, many people have gone to war, where you risk you're actually the pawn
I really love how friendly they are and immediately talk strategy after the match instead of hoarding knowledge just to try and get a leg up. Chess is such a stately competition and I'm glad the competitiveness doesn't devolve into fighting and social posturing.
That chat felt like releasing adrenaline and relaxing after a really intense match. The mental focus and pressure must be incredibly high stress.
Magnus was so surprised by it, nothing like any of his previous WCC opponents lol.
@@edmis90 I agree, I believe both Magnus and Ian are kind of sharpminded and they both hate losing and we often see their furious reactions when they lose butttt they both are very chill and professional guys. And in my opinion they're kind of people you wanna be friends with. That's probably why we witnessed this good, very chill conversation. They're dick heads but they're good people and professionals
They are discussing things that happened after they were out of their prep, no reason really to hoard that knowledge, as it will most certainly not reappear in the next 12 games. :)
Also, people saying this is nothing like previous championships, rewatch the Carlsen-Vishy matches. Lots of post-game analysis by the board.
Both player would have a full report with all the variations and a review of all the openings choice of the opponent waiting for them so there is nothing to be gained from not wanting to analyze the position afterwards it's just unclassy to do that.
magnus is staring at him like this is the first time anyones spoken to him at a chessboard
Lmao yeah he was like how is this man talking
Why is dude talking???
But I guess it's because they are or used to be friends and nepo was trying to not make it like a big Deal...likes airs a Friendly match or something....like win or Lose we still friends
@@p4rzival127 A lot of people talk after the match about positions even when they don't know each other, so it's even more expected between two players who have known each other for years
@@pattininja95 yeah....it is Normal.....but in a world championship match it's a little bit Odd .....what if you discuss the same Line in a Later Game!? You know.....I'm all for it .....but I think it's Odd
Lol that first sentence sounds like something that the smart kid would say after handing in a test when he made one mistake.
Amazing comment, captures the feeling completely
@@jorgeeduardodussanvillanue46 One does not disturb the peacefulness that is a no replies 100+ like comment with a mere compliment. Refrain from such dubious actions please.
@@ghetoknight7801 one does not disturb the peacefulness that is a one reply, 350+ likes comment by pointing out that one does not disturb the peacefulness...
He seems very keen for Magnus to respect his intelligence. I suppose that's natural, but there's a touch of desperation about it.
These guys can discuss a game they just played from their memory without having it on the board, yet I can't remember what I ate yesterday.
While it is extremely impressive, imagine if you sat down and thought about what every single possibility of the bite of food you were going to take tasted like, only taking 1 bite every 30 minutes, with no down time on how much you were thinking about it. These guys sit and rigorously calculate with every ounce of brain power for hours and hours about each move. It definitely plays a big part in remembering each one.
And yesterday was Thanksgiving of all days.
This Guy ( Magnus) can play 3 Chessgames at the same time bindfolded
@@goldenehimbeere 10 at the same time
@@goldenehimbeere 30 at the same time. Even levy can do 3
imagine being that good at chess, i cannot
“I have no idea who was better and why” is the only part of this video I can relate to 😂
That's why they're playing for the world championship and you're not
@@william_shakespeare ok
You and your friend could just pretend by calling random moves like "Bg4, Qa1, Kg8.... If u take on b5, i have Kc1, Rh8 followed by Nf3" in speed and fake analyze like grandmasters.
Magnus: "I have no idea who's better and why"
Finally something I can relate.
Perhaps he does not want to think further. Perhaps he does not want to argue. Whatever the reason, I hate these type of statements because unlike nepo, there are no further insights. Sigh, sry, just abit emo here.
When they are saying those moves, those pieces are moving around on a virtual board they see in their heads in real time, and furthermore their minds are blitzing out all sorts of variations on each of those moves in real time, and they are doing this for any position of the game from memory, instantly. Unreal. Fascinating. World-class players, can't wait to see the next game.
Uhm, not really. Nepo spend like 20 minutes thinking about the c3 move in the game... Pretty sure those calculations he'd remember after the game. As far as virtual boards, well yes, kind of true.
@@PHeMoX that’s called classical chess
On the one hand, that sounds extremely impressive. On the other hand, if I tell you "take 3, add 4, subtract 5, then multiply by 2," you would have no difficulty following my explanation. Clearly you end up with 4. In fact, it would sound odd if you could not follow that calculation. So it works in chess. If you spend enough time learning a certain abstraction, it becomes like second nature. Obviously (3 + 4 - 5) * 2 = 4. And to a chess master, obviously 1. c4 e6 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. d4 d5 transposes into the Queen's Gambit Declined. All the "calculations" are mental, because to the properly trained person, they are obvious.
What makes a player like Carlsen exceptional is way beyond what I can easily discern from watching him. All chess pros look impressive. But the easy stuff, like these side conversations that happen after a game or whatever, those don't seem that amazing. Those seem like conversations between people who just played the game and remember what happened. Surely, if I explained my DotA build in the context of an ongoing game and discussed with my opponent how he could have responded, my conversation would seem like Greek to anyone who didn't play DotA (except the Greeks, I guess). That would in no way imply I was some sort of DotA whiz.
Tits
@@EebstertheGreat DotA is far from being literal chess though, not remotely the same thing. Someone's ignorance on a subject also doesn't make them a complete moron either. I would say the notations of moves is the easy part of what they talk about, understanding the ideas they discuss is a whole different thing.
So this is what Levy calls 'calculating a game with an opponent afterwards'...
Wow no wonder Magnus looked so shocked “worst game ever played at a world championship match” is quite the opening line
Oh I think there have been worse games, lol. Gelfand lost to Anand in 17 moves in 2012.
When I heard this line, I thought the whole video was going to be a meme. Even started laughing after Magnus said 'Sorry' in that way. Turned out to be real footage xdd
@@MehtaAvant my same exact reaction
@@MehtaAvant same dude
Well even if Nepo thought it was ugly, it was a super enjoyable game with the exchange sacrifice and everything.
I can't get a read on Nepo. He's like the kid in who never pays attention in class, but aces the test because he read the text book two years ago.
This is very insightful into their real relationship based around chess and an openness to share and analyse together. Extreme competitiveness but professionally friendly
"share and analyze together"? Umm... It was Nepo analyzing, and Magnus just trying to end the conversation and leave.
Magnus & Nepo are friends I believe .Nepo was in Magnus team for one (or more) of his previous World Championship matches. They have trained together and played each other as juniors. But as Nepo said before the match started, there are no friends when the game starts.
@@MrVovansim Nepo was talking so much Magnus couldn't even end a sentence..XD
@@MrVovansim yes, I think Nepo was fishing as part of a friendly postmortem ,and Magnus just didn't want to reveal anything.
When chess is your only way of small talk.
😂 underrated comment
Nepo: I missed this, this and that.
Magnus: Yeah
From the first line I thought it was a joke dub. It took me a while to realize that was actually what they were saying.
Nepo utilises the Conversation Gambit, and Magnus has no response.
two masters just trying to figure out how to put on the ultimate show
i think it would be interesting to see an edit of this with the relevant board positions and moves as they discuss it. you know, for us plebs :D.
That is a lot of work though
@@timnauwelaers6876 not for our Levy...
It was done once in a beautiful interview with Vasilly Ivanchuk where he replayed an entire game he'd just played, with numerous un-played side-lines, entirely from memory. Levy did a "translation" video, but the original raw interview footage is fantastic too.
I second that motion 👍
@@juliatruchsess1019 omg, that’s like one of the best interviews of chess players ever. So fascinating and a good laugh at the same time.
This helps me realise that modern chess isn't even so much about two players trying to beat each other.
Instead, it's two players trying to play the best game of chess they can together - but hoping their opponent is the one to make a mistake.
Both Magnus and Ian played that whole game in their minds, along with countless other games along the way. Magnus just got to move the white pieces, and Ian the black pieces.
Their collective goal was to play the best moves, because that's the best they can do.
After the game, they're openly discussing their respective views on the game, and where they think the game could have been improved.
It's fierce competition, mixed with the mutual pursuit of perfection.
fax
wow what a nice way to put it
cool way to look at it, i agree with your opinion
Very nice
A view not shared by my team captain when I played in competitive team chess matches. He didn't like my preference for an interesting game, even if I lost. My first duty was to win for the team anyway I could within the rules of chess :-). I'm with you on this though Scott Robinson!
This is a good example of sportsmanship, and shows respect for the content of the game, not merely the results for the players. Nice.
These player both respect and revere one another. They have a long history of playing together.
The banter would have been a lot different had it been Magnus and Giri.
I don't remember Carlsen having such conversations with Anand, Karajkin, or Caruana after their games in the world championship match (well, in the case of Karajkin Carlsen was quite upset at himself for letting Karajkin give him a challenge at all whereas he very much respects Anand and Caruana).
They both downplayed the proposition when asked at the press conference about their friendship but I think it's quite clear they get along with each other well.
Yeah, a couple of months ago, Nepo said that they are not close friends, but they get along.
They definitely did discuss variations after some of the games in earlier MC matches too. Especially with Anand.
Anish Giri said in his live commentary that Nepo doesn't think Magnus is an idiot. I guess that is high praise from Nepo!
@@zoranherceg7221 its as hikaru said some time ago. “basically none of the super gms are close friends or anything, but everyone is on good terms for the most part”
@@emvv3784 kramnik and anand are best buddies, even gelfand and anand, I mean Anand is a likable person in general but still
looking at this feel like they are just chilling at the bar enjoying games rather then a championship
The bar or library
i cant tell if these are levy's impressions or not, or both
1:07 Magnus "I kinda thought you always have some"
Caption: "???"
I think he said “compensation, or really “compens..” before being cut off by Nepo. Not “something”.
@@WreckedRectum he said "some", sorry, my phone autocorrected to something for some reason. not compensation though, probably misspelled it
must be how alphazero talks to itself after a training session
It's so funny that Ian gets a full dialog in without ever looking at Magnus' eyes directly. His gaze is always somewhere else.
He's probably looking at his mental board whilst going through positions
Correr o risco de se apaixonar no meio do campeonato seria fatal
@@jadiellima8922 i did not regret i translated it
I like how respectful they are to each other , u don't see that in other competitions
What's amazing to me is that when they mention a single square on the board, it instantly conveys an entire position, and all the lines they were both considering at that point. And all before I've figured out where that square is.
NEPO was whispering , he did not want to disturb the players playing chess 😂😂😂
And this was just game 2 where Nepo commented "worst game in a world championship match".....his soul was still alive in the first half
😭😭😭
People said magnus and nepo made blunders during the game, but both of them had 98.5% accuracy.
that accuracy score is not for top players
Thats why they said it. 13 years old bobby fischer played ay like 99.5.
Are you really gonna look at the accuracy? Like it literally means nothing.
@@ppmpyae1152 accuracy is relative to the complexity of the game state. Any 2000 would reach that number against any 1200.
@@ppmpyae1152 it is hard to compare. The game is different now. Listening to some of their conversations, they're talking about strategies finding niche evaluations where they play sub-optimal moves that push their opponent to make natural-looking moves that are mistakes - Meta-strategies that were much harder to develop back then. Accuracy isn't always the best metric for human vs human.
Making your opponent make mistakes is far more valuable, and that psychology can't be calculated with computers. (So far at least!)
Nepo provoking Magnus to play riskier lines.
It's really nice that you came up with the ideia to bring this after match conversation, I'm looking forward for more of it
This reminds of how Karpov and Kasporov tried to analyze the game despite tensions.
It's just such a strong instinct...
i like how magnus is just so amazed or mindblown by what ian is even saying lol
I think he's just shocked that his opponent wanted to talk about strategy during a world championship match.
@@EGarrett01 yea
Magnus wanted to say: just shut up and kiss me!
@@t-rexkalita1379 WTF
@@t-rexkalita1379 no homo
I hope they keep letting us hear them after the games! That was so cool to listen to.
lmao it feels like the end of a movie scene where the characters talk amongst each other
Magnus looks so confused 😂
You can tell Magnus is initially kind of shocked that Nepo wants to have a conversation about it, and is almost hesitant to engage with him. But after Nepo insists on it, Magnus obliges and starts talking haha
"I have no idea who was better and why"
Me after playing all of my games, before the computer tells me the 13 ways in which I'm an idiot.
Levy could make a video explaining those positions
"I have no idea who was better and why"
At least I can feel slightly better about myself now.
Ian initiated the exchange and Magnus obliged but you could tell he was understandably a little reluctant to open up fully about the analysis.
its amazing how these players can be enemies for 5h straight and then just discuss friendly what probably was better, even if this position may theoretically happen once again in a later game.
love it
Finally! We get to hear these conversations. I can't follow any of it, but it's still interesting to listen to pros talk shop.
These sort of videos are highly appreciated
exciting to hear their brief analysis. I didnt expect them to discuss that much
Bruh I can't even remember the moves of a game when I'm still playing it
love that neither of them are making eye contact, just visualizing boards in their heads
Even Stockfish couldnt handle that casual conversation
Never have I listened so intently to something I didn’t understand a second of.
This is the definition of a "big brain conversation" that i cannot understand XD
This is good healthy competition. Sportmanships. And theyre good buddies on and off chesboard. Nice to see both players playing for championship. Ive been waiting for this like ages. 😂
That was some amazing sportsmanship
legendary conversation .
It would be so great to see what they were talking about in context of the game on the board
Would be cool if we could get a board with the positions and moves they're talking about on the side so we mortals can follow the shiny pretty pieces running around.
Great idea. That's the sort of thing I can imagine GM Danny King doing on his PowerPlayChess channel.
They have so much respect for each other to be so Frank in discussing
This was so good. It would be incredible to have them both go through and analyze each game together after all of this is over.
Great commentary. Really enjoying watching the tournament through your eyes! Thanks for the great analysis!
Fighters on the board. Friends off it. So great to see these champs discuss the game immediately after fighting it out like that.
thanks 2021 for give us conversations between players like that recorded on camera, i just feel so privilegiate for been able to hear that, really
What i enjoy the most is that they are such good friends! I'm not really into what the result of the match will be...but the matches will be so much more fun cause of their chemistry
I just want to say that I love how the two players respect each other and are super friendly with each other even though this is the world championship.
Why they should not, there is no luck, no ping, no referee or other points to discuss, if you lose your opponent was better, better day what ever and/or you had make a failure.
And who is better to analyse than your opponent and pne of the strongest players, dont say an engine.^^
Maaaaan looking back this is soooo awkward. You can really feel how nervous nepo is, even before the loss which broke him:/
i like how Ian was whispering at the start 😂
I really like hearing post game convos
Its so nice to see two competitors at the top level...discuss the game afterwards...dont think Korchnoi Karpov would be able to...
these two refused to even shake hands lol
1:28 I like Ian’s talkativeness 😂😂 with no less than the World Champion he’s challenging for the title
"bum bum timmy tum tum bro"
That is fascinating! To hear them talk so candidly about the game. So invaluable.
I can't really recollect how it was in the previous world championship matches but I find it very peculiar that they discuss the game as if they were not competing for the title.
Unless they hate each other (or the people running the tournament don't allow it) chess players usually discuss the game they just played to see if they missed something.
Chess is an obsession. As academics they need to know what was better, thats how you keep getting stronger
Its great respect and sportsmanship
It's definitely very noticeable. Idk if it's actually the case or not but Carlsen seems much more friendly with Nepo than he was with Caruana last world championship.
@@janon5815 This was actually discussed on the chess com livestream, Magnus and Nepo go back a good while and are pretty friendly so it makes sense, whilst Magnus and Fabiano haven't really studied chess together at all.
And I can barely remember what I had for lunch.
magnus in the beginning is like "wtf you are talking about"
Who needs a board - just talk it out - still end in a draw !
I look at this back and forth between them as two performers on the grand stage evaluating their moves to see if they could have given the public a much better "fight" (hence Nepo's comment at the beginning of the video). These guys see games in lines, how each single move opens up countless more lines, with some lines that can ultimately lead them to some of the "greatest match ever played" realm.
I can't fathom being able to hold not only an entire game of chess, but also seemingly endless branching variations, in one's head.
love how they play a different game in their head after the main one is over.
I have no idea if their evaluations are good or not I'm just thrilled I'm finally learning how to navigate the board using letter notation and not needing the arrows just to follow. Also Magnus saying I have no idea who was better and why is me permanently.
Peak chess evolution
"my opponent is not my enemy" in a nutshell XD
hope they went for a beer after that
Quite a different vibe from Magnus and Fabi refusing to make eye contact during the opening handshake.
so much thought given to the possible combinations of a grid lol
Wives : I think our husbands are cheating on us.
Husbands :
We're impressed that they remember every moves of the game, but I'm pretty sure they'll remember these matches after many years, insane minds
Nepo is like foreign germs HAHAHAHA
"I have no idea who's better and why"... me too Magnus, me too
I think it's so nice that there is evident respect after about a big portion of history where they'd never talk to each other
These guys are enemies on the most strategic battlefield of the year, and they are still talking on friendly terms.
I always hate it when my opponent starts reeling off moves at the end of a game. And then everyone else joins in and you're left thinking was I playing in the game
Watch all the matches be draws lmao