As a regular season award, regardless of team :1988 MJ As regular season award + team success: 2016 Curry If we also factor the playoffs... idk maybe 2013 LeBron or MJ in 91
Jonny, I'm not Lebron's fan, but I want to ask you something. If Lebron didn't have a solid supporting cast and Cavs still won 66 games that season while Lebron was having the greatest per and +/- season of his career, than why the hell he was soo low ranked??? I mean we are talking about MVP seasons, not a season overall. Of course, 2013 was Lebron's greatest season because he won MVP that season, championship and finals MVP, he was the best player in both regular season and play offs, but if we are talking about MVP seasons only, than 2009 is clearly Lebron's greatest MVP season and as someone eho isn't fan of his game, this season should've been topn5 for me.
And ofc the fact Steph was not using all that much energy on defense… No hate but like it’s alot more impressive to average 27-30 while having a top 15 defensive season all time Than scoring 32+ on insane efficiency
@universalplayz7496 It’s not like it wasn’t effort though. Steph put in effort so I don’t think that diminishes the offense in any way. I mean early in his career Steph’s physical limitations were what was wrong with his defense. But in a lot of games you see him be extremely aggressive playing ball denial on Post mismatches. And while I don’t consider the steals to be a good indicator of defense it does show an effort on that side of the ball. I mean imo it’s the greatest offensive season ever. 30 pts and 7 assists on 50/45/90 is absurd especially since most of those points didn’t come from the line or inside. 400 made threes and fully spearheading the three point revolution, that’s some legendary stuff. On top of that, a player forcing big men switch on screens at 30 ft out and forcing so much miscommunication is probably the greatest part of 2016. Like Steph’s gravity is so well known but still understated in it’s impact. And while I do value defense, it’s much harder to provide impact as a perimeter player on the defensive end, as well as, it’s easier to be able to mask some defensive shortcomings for guards. Though with 88 Jordan I have a difficult relationship with that one cause I feel like the early 90s MVPs were better cause it felt like more winning basketball. Jordan was able to get away with high usage rates and win chips; but Jordan still has limits. 87-88 imo felt like a supercharged 17 Westbrook. I think 91 or 90 is probably the best MVP season ever. But that’s just my opinion.
I feel like 2014 KD is one of the most underrated mvp season ever 32 ppg (63,5 %TS) 7,4 rpg 5,5 apg Led okc to 59 wins in a stacked west with russ being out for nearly 40 games
@@NathanWhyte-m8lStop wrtting fanfiction the games are available to watch players today can't even play all 82 games no defense and today the game is just a 3 point contest no wonder the ratings are down 😂😂😂😂
I gotta give a shout out to Bill Russell in 1962. His statistics might not look as amazing as some guys, but... This was the season that Wilt scored 50 points per game and Oscar averaged a triple-double. The MVP was voted by the players at that point, and despite those performances by Wilt and Oscar, Russell still won the award by a mile. Whatever he was doing, whatever defense he was playing, however he was affecting the game, it must have truly been something to see...
@@mattparker-2 players don't always vote based on winning as the #1 criteria. Players voted for Kareem winning MVP in 1975-76, despite not even making the playoffs.
Great points. We're very used to flash, novelty, and team wins being the weightiest factors in MVP debates nowadays. Perhaps those voting players in 1962 simply recognized whatever Bill Russell was doing to elevate Boston was more valuable than Wilt's and Oscar's individual statlines.
KD in 2014 should be top 15. He carried the Thunder to 59 wins (2nd best in the league, more wins than the Heat superteam) with Westbrook injured for half the season, with brilliant numbers of 32-7-5 and incredible efficiency.
Awesome video, Jonny! It was awesome getting to learn about various players' amazing MVP seasons :) Your mention of Jokic reminds me of another video you made where you mentioned him and his incredible skillset (I believe it was a weekend recap, which I will comment on soon). It's amazing how he can shoot from long and short distance (and use his strength too) and pass so well. I second your thoughts about how his 23-24 season was one of the best. MJ is incredible as well and I think he shows up most out of all players on this list. It makes sense that his 87-88 season is the best MVP season on your list. It's hard to rank them, but you make a good argument for MJ's 87-88 season as the best one, especially given how he won DPOY that season and averaged 35 PPG. That is an incredible feat and shows how incredible he was on both defense and offense. Great video once again. Take care :)
Another great job JA! Mj in 88 definitely holds #1 and all his picks were accurate. I hear you on Curry, but I feel that's a little high. Dream deserves a little higher, and I think the Admiral's year gets in there somewhere... Nice work!
@@jshonsmith3399 That doesn't necessarily mean anything. If you had asked the average avid/analytical fan, they likely wouldn't have laughed. Most people aren't that smart and don't go beyond surface-level thinking.
@@Cannon4545 most analytics used today weren’t available back then. PER and “win shares” are among the worst metrics you could possible use, and they’re pretty much the only ones available for that time.
@@lukakaps9548 that... wouldn't be an analytical fan. Most people are not very smart. So the majority consensus isn't necessarily a good one. This is one of those times.
I've TRIED to watch a couple games, but OMG!!!!! BORING!!!!!!!!! I tell myself: "If they shoot another 3, I'm out"... and they shoot yet another 3!! So I watch no more than about 3 minutes.
It would be interesting to generate such a list based on the advanced metrics only, to ask _who meant the most to their team_ when they won MVP. When you look at stats like WaR, RAPTOR-WaR, O/D BPM and win shares, they are dominated by MJ, Bron, Steph, and Jokic. Then you see random spike years from guys like Harden, Garnett, etc. Doesn't work for anyone before ~1980, but that's still 35 MVPs. Just an idea given that there are only so many video ideas one can have
@@YourImaginaryFriendDylan because the average person does not understand them either. It's very hard to have an opinion when a) the data disagrees with you, and b) you don't understand statistics or how to evaluate the meaning of these metrics
Thanks for including a highlight of David Robinson blocking Hakeem at the beginning of the video. Unfortunately, the main highlights of the Admiral that appear on UA-cam are of him getting faked out by Hakeem and getting bulldozed by Shaw
Yeah, but wait until Jokic finishes his career 😂😂😂 because if he comes back after Dallas's game and don't miss games until the end of this season, he will have the greatest MVP season of all time. You can argue that even his 2022 season was the greatest of all time because statisticly nobody was more complete than Jokic that season, not even Jordan. He broke the all time record held by Wilt for highest per of all time and broke the all time record for highest +/- held by Lebron in 2009. But this season he is overachieving even that season. He averages nearly 30 points triple double with 56% from the field and 56% from deep. If he finishes this season let's say with 29 points, 13 rebounds and 10 assists on 56+ FG% and 40+% from deep, this would be the greatest MVP season of NBA history. For now I agree, Jordan's 1988 is the greatest because of team record, Jokic had injured and below average team in 2022 soo that's why he couldn't win more games.
@@hristijandimitrovski8664jokic in 2022 was great DONT get be wrong But there’s a whole other side to the ball… Passing and scoring is 1 side of the court Defending is the other part of the court Jokic def had a top 3 offensive season But you also gotta look into defense, like for example Kareem mvps (early bucks) he was having an insane offensive season AND defensive season Any of wilts mvp I would argue is better than 2022 jokic Especially wilt in 1967 was probably the most complete basketball player that ever existed Passing, scoring, efficiency (ignore ft% :() , rebounding, blocking , steals and winning Everything was the best
@universalplayz7496 well, you can say that about his every other season, but that season was Jokic's best season defensively soo far. He led the league in defensive +/- and it wasn't actually close. He finished 2nd in defensive winshares onpy with 0,1% less than Tatum and he averaged 1,5 steals and 0,9 blocks. Not to mention that he had multiple game winning blocks that season and led his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, FG% and true shooting %. The only player in history to achieve that. For me it was Jokic's best defensive season.
@@hristijandimitrovski8664yeah but 2022 best defensive season and Jokic best defensive season Vs all time defensive seasons from all time great defenders are different things…. Like if you look at wilt in 65 or 67 they were in the same galaxy on offense And wilt also won a lot more But no one in their right mind would be trying to say Jokic and Wilt were even comparable on defense… I’m not saying jokic is a bad defender But there’s just levels and taking just Jokic offensive accomplishment isn’t enough to have the goat mvp season.
I agree with a lot of the comments here mentioning how you glossed over Westbrook’s MVP season in 2017. You can compare it to MJs in 1988 (which you put at number 1 on this list). The bulls in 1988 had 50 wins in a very weak eastern conference. Westbrook had 47 wins in an incredibly tough and loaded western conference. Westbrook had just lost KD and now was by himself in 2017 and nobody expected OKC to even make the playoffs. Westbrook averaged a triple double while leading the league in scoring that year. Jordan has the advantage on defense and efficiency of course… but if Jordan’s season is number one…surely Westbrook’s should make this top 20 list somewhere…
Yeah, combining both stats and winning, Jordan in 1988 has the greatest MVP season of all time and Steph is right up there close 2nd in 2016. But if we are only talking about statisticly who was the most producive player on the court, it's Jokic in 2022. Jokic in 2022 broke the all time record for highest per in NBA history, record held by Wilt and I think nobody believed that record would ever be broken (Wilt's season was with 32 per, Jokic ended his season with per of 32,8). Jokic also broke the record for highest +/- of all time previously held by Lebron in 2009 (Lebron had 13,2, Jokic had 13,7). But I'm gonna tell tou this. Wait until Jokic finishes his career, because he might have the greatest MVP season even if you include winning. Especialy this year he has a shot after completely dominating his 2022 season with per of 33,4 right now and +/his +/- is 15,3 soo... Jokic this year actually has a shot if he continues to play close as good because obviously some of his numbers would drop, but if he average 29 points triple double on 40+% from deep and 56+% from the field and Nuggets win let's say 55 games, than it's clearly Jokic on top.
@@mattparker-2 and not just that, but if we are taking winninf in consideration, 1988 was his weakest MVP season of his careerin terms of winning soo it's not like that season was soo perfect and soo complete... Still there are a bunch of players in NBA history that were able to win more games than that. Even Kobe in 2008 season had 7 wins more than Jordan in 1988 and that season even in top 30 best MVP seasons probably soo... Jokic can definitely surpasa that Jordan's season.
@@hristijandimitrovski8664 CP3 had a better MVP case than Kobe in 08'. Statistically speaking and having to carry more of his team's offense. I have Curry's 2016 MVP as the greatest MVP.
@QuestionEverything562 yeah, but I'm just talking as MVP season. For me Joker was also MVP in 2023, but Embiid won it soo I'm looking his MVP season instead of Jokic's season that year because he didn't win MVP. Anyway, even if Chris Paul won MVP in 2008, still not in top 30 MVP seasons probably.
Jonny, with all due respect, I think last MVP season eas Jokic's worst MVP season😂😂😂I mean, all 3 seasons are very close for me, but if I have to pick one, his last MVP season was slightly weaker than his previous. For me his 2022 MVP season should've been around top 5- top 7 because he broke Wilt's record for highest per of all time (32,8), he broke the record for highest +/- (13,7, previous record was 13,2 from Lebron James in 2009). Jokic that season also became the only player in history to finish a season with at least 2000 points, 1000 rebounds and 500 assists. In his last MVP season altough he played more games, he wasn't able to achieve that which tells you that statisticly he was more dominant in his 2022 season. Also in his 2022 season he led the league in triple doubles (19) and in 2024 he finished 2nd in that category behind Sabonis. Still a pretry much historic MVP season and all of his 3 seasons, but I would give the edge to his best MVP season in my opinion, 2022.
Rbs average of Shaq in 2000 wasn't his carrer-high, it was 13.9 in his rookie year 😉 And I think in Kareem sophomore season the best rim protector was Wilt.
I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart that you didn’t include a Bill Russell MVP season in there. I was worried it was going to be in your top 5 but a great list overall. I just feel Bills MVPs are so hollow without the scoring and having soooo many hall of famers on your team.
Personally I think the greatest season ever was the 3421-3422 season by Paula Abdul-Jabba the Hutt. They did it all that season; performed pop music, had the unguardable skyhook, and dropped defenders into the Rancor pit.
I love how we just don't not give a single fuck about Westbrook averaging a triple double in 2017 anymore. For 50 years we all were in awe of Oscar Robinson's triple double season, then it happens again and we all say bah what ever, stad padding, grumble grumble. I think Russ is one of those guys that will get looked back on more fondly than he is now, stat king who never won anything.
Because it’s just a lot of stat padding. His play doesn’t lead to winning. The team was sixth on the west. Russ is empty calories of stealing rebounds from teammates, getting lots of points but on low efficiency and lots of assists because he always had the ball. His peak is impressive, I’m not saying he was bad, but he’s not in this category
@@qqw743 Statistics literally proved that when Westbrook was playing the team performed far better. He also did not steal rebounds, did you even watch the Thunder. Their entire identity was a fast pace. With Steven Adams boxing out opponents Westbrook could get the rebound and immediately start the offense.
@ because the stats I’ve seen over Westbrooks career show that he’s one of the worst shots ever and the games that I’ve watched show that he’s a bonehead on defense, never knows where to be, and constantly goes at 100 miles an hour when the team needs him to operate within their system. He never adapts. Phoniest MVP ever.
@@qqw743 @qqw743 i mean his on/off that year was +12.5 per 100 possessions, and in the playoffs it was much better than that. Without Westbrook that is a lottery team. So yes, it 100% led to winning in his peak, to a very great extent. "because the stats I’ve seen over Westbrooks career show that he’s one of the worst shots ever and the games that I’ve watched show that he’s a bonehead on defense" WB was a better shooter his MVP season, part of why he was so dominant. You couldn't concede the shot like you can now, and his free throws were automatic unlike now. Basically, the things people criticize him for were at their least egregious in his MVP year, and the things people praise him for were at their best. His MVP season deserves to be on this list. "assists because he always had the ball." His volume was high, true, but he is and was a GREAT passer. You can't take that away from him.
i feel like the 2019-20 season from giannis should also be included despite the ending in the bubble, the team was on pace to 70+ wins before the shutdown, the team was historical on defense, and giannis is performing one of the greatest 2 way experience you'll ever seen, he was averaging the 30+pts, 13-14 rebs, 5 ast and was averaging 30+% from 3 while being a menace on defense...and they have some crazy win streaks too, he ended the season with both mvp and dpoy while brook deserve some of the credit for the defense, giannis was a huge part of the defensive system, giannis have one of the best defensive field goals that season holding people below 40% fg
except, it does make sense. I know you're probably just a casual fan who just goes with the narrative, but i'm gonna drop this here. Nearly every defensive statistical stat goes in favor of Marc Gasol. I mean EVERY stat. Not only that, marc also was a contributor to his team having the best defense in the leauge. I used to be like you, but then i wondered "why have i never actually heard a reason for why Lebron should have won it?"
@ because i have eyes. LeBron was clearly the best defender that year and could guard 1-5. A casual fan like you can easily go look up a number, u probably think Rudy Gobert is a great defender too. Lol
@@gamergod3798 i mean its just weird because those same stats will tell you mj shouldn't have won dpoy (among many other winners), but he did, and now its a point in the goat debate
He was a 6th seed and was kinda inefficient. Def a great season but these were better imo as well. He just had a ton of triple doubles which Jokic did but better
It ain't crazy. Dudes that made the list were very efficient, won games and a lot of them made their teammates better. 2017 Westbrook was Russ' best individual showing for a season but it also contained a lot of his worsts in the league like super high usage rate to impact ratio, high turnover rates and among the poorest efficiencies in the league for a superstar. He most likely even made his teammates worse by not having them be a lot involved.
@@buenvidanadz1969 "super high usage rate to impact ratio," His impact was enormous that season dude lol "and among the poorest efficiencies in the league" His 3pt shooting and free throw shooting were actually good that year. "He most likely even made his teammates worse by not having them be a lot involved." Definitely not Steven Adams! And let's not forget he averaged almost 11 assists per game. That is 'getting your teammates involved.'
As a Curry hater he can be number 1 on the list it's a regular season award and choking in the finals has nothing to do with it being absolutely unanimous and incredible during the regular season
well being best scorer and defender in the league in a single season is more impressive.. plus MJ had 35ppg even steph in his best shooting form wont average that much
Giannis is higher in my book. Not just because of the rare MVP/DPOY feat, but also because he only had to play 30 MPG. Apart from that I think it's a good list with a number one that was clear from the beginning.
Curry barely played those 4th quarters too. It makes absolutely no sense. You had to look up when the Warriors were playing - they were appointment television. I wouldn’t mind an in depth 2016 video if that hadn’t already been done.
Wilts 55 ppg season should be number 1 spot... How he didnt win mvp that year is still insane.. also joker this years mvp is gonna make a case for #1 spot too.. westbrooks triple double season deserves a spot too
Westbrook also averaged 6 turnovers per game, and he shot 43 % from the field. ESPN won't tell you that. And he was fighting his teammates over rebounds, and he passed up on uncontested dunks to get his 10 assists per game.
I would add a few ABA MVPs, particularly Dr J (73-74 and 75-76), Hawkins (67-68), and Haywood (69-70). Doc should have at least one in the top 20, and the others deserve at least Honorable Mention.
@@blakeleonard3990 Steph can't do that on his own, though. He requires another shooter in order to start winning by 30. He wouldn't fit well into just any team.
Can't say I do remember that. Probably because only casuals would debate over something like that. Steph wasn't inside top-50 all time at that time according to many analysts.
@@strmshadow8411 Agreed here, they just like shouting numbers. When you lose a lot of your pieces and get injuries to others you will drop significantly.
1975/1976 Kareem despite the losing record… literally the “most valuable player” to his Lakers, who probably win only 10-15 games without him on the team!
That can be said about the vast majority of the stars that won MVP after 1969. The 94 and 95 Rockets and Spurs are probably the worst team in the league without their MVPs.
Ngl bill at 1962 gotta be the greatest simply for the fact whatever he did that season was more valuable than someone averaging 50/25 and 30/10/10 and 38/20….. Like he must’ve gotten a 25 blocks per game or something…..
Let's say MJ had Westbrook's MVP stats in 88...they had same amount of wins anyway...You would still say MJ number 1 MVP...so why Westbrook not top 20 then?
MJ didn't average 6 turnovers per game, or shoot 43 % from the field. And MJ wasn't fighting his teammates over rebounds, or pass up on uncontested dunks to get his assists.
I won't put in the work of ranking that many MVP seasons, just will say any of Wilt's, Kareem's or Jordan's MVP's could top the list. I wouldn't have put Curry's 2016 MVP that high, but could understand anyone ranking it in the top 5.
Great. Job Jonny of having Michael's eight seven,eighty eight season. I was a Showtime fan at the time, along with a Wilkins fan. But Michael was clearly the best player in the league.......Steph Curry? Hmmmm?
Jonny, for some of the videos like these, where it's the best X number of whatever of all time, could you do a second version of the video that excludes MJ, LeBron, magic, bird, wilt, bill russell, and Kareem? Those 7 players usually make up 70% of these videos and I know it's the facts, but hearing the same players over and over gets repetitive. Everyone knows who's going to be on the list, it's just a matter of what order.
Olajuwon should be at least #2 on this list. You forgot to mention he won the title and Finals MVP that same season he won MVP and DPOY and is still the only player ever to do so in the same season!!! He was also an All-Star, All-Defensive 1st team, All NBA 1st team, and finished 3rd overall in points that season
This is why #20 is not accurate. Bird should have received his fourth consecutive MVP that season. That year, Ainge, McHale, Parish, and Walton were injured consistently throughout the regular season and playoffs. Despite all the injuries, Bird dragged the Celtics to the NBA Finals. It was actually Bird's greatest season. This was the year NBA awards started getting political. Magic was great that season without a doubt, but he was still surrounded be more talent than any other team.
It's always players who play well on both sides of the court for me. What good is scoring if you allow the same amount or more points on the defensive end?
@@penkima4923 That's not true.... if anything that accentuates the importance of defense. You stop the ball, you stop the team. You stop the ball, you give your team/yourself easy scoring chances. The best players of all-time played defense not just offense.
@@scottb3034 Not every best player of all time played good defense. They could essentially defend only one opposing player, so defense isn't as important.
@@facelessandnameless It was one of the worst seasons of Malone's career and it was gifted to him because the NBA didn't want to give the 98-99 MVP to Iverson. My opinion has nothing to do with his personal life as many would assume.
I personally don't have it as the worst ever, but a very valid reason for doing so is the fact that it came in a 50 game season. I have it bottom 6 personally.
@@VelaniTheOne I think Karl Malone's 98-99 MVP was the worst because he was gifted it only because the NBA didn't want to pass the torch to the next generation by giving it to Iverson...they even strangely voted Mourning higher than Duncan to ensure a young player wouldn't win.
I've gone through and ranked every MVP before and I agreed perfectly with the placement of some (like Kareem's 72) and saw the reasoning for basically every other one. The only one I *strongly* disagreed with was how low 2009 Lebron was. 2013 Lebron was a better player, but in terms of value, 2009 Lebron was his peak. His averages are brought down by the era, but his advanced stats are out of this world and he had team success. I have it as #2 to only Jordan's 88 which is in my mind, undeniably #1.
IMO Curry's season should be no. 1. I'm pretty sure you just didn't put him there 'cause in videos like this, Jordan should be in the top 'cause he's the best player ever but even if his best MVP season was, let's say, just no. 4 in this list, I still would have him as the GOAT. Curry's 2016 season had phenomenal record breaking regular season wins and arguably the most efficient MVP season of all time.
Who do you think had the greatest MVP season of All Time?
Steve Nash
MJ 1988
Ngl, I'm very biased, so I'm picking westbrook
As a regular season award, regardless of team :1988 MJ
As regular season award + team success: 2016 Curry
If we also factor the playoffs... idk maybe 2013 LeBron or MJ in 91
Jonny, I'm not Lebron's fan, but I want to ask you something. If Lebron didn't have a solid supporting cast and Cavs still won 66 games that season while Lebron was having the greatest per and +/- season of his career, than why the hell he was soo low ranked??? I mean we are talking about MVP seasons, not a season overall. Of course, 2013 was Lebron's greatest season because he won MVP that season, championship and finals MVP, he was the best player in both regular season and play offs, but if we are talking about MVP seasons only, than 2009 is clearly Lebron's greatest MVP season and as someone eho isn't fan of his game, this season should've been topn5 for me.
One of the biggest thing about Steph’s MVPs is that routinely he did not have to play in 4th Quarters. Which make some of those stats absurd.
That’s just what I was thinking , he did all that while being far from leading the league in minutes, just insane.
And ofc the fact Steph was not using all that much energy on defense…
No hate but like it’s alot more impressive to average 27-30 while having a top 15 defensive season all time
Than scoring 32+ on insane efficiency
@@universalplayz7496 it in fact is more impressive, but when you are the leader of a 73-9 team then why care about his defense?
it was a ridiculous season, but imo lebron was still the best player in the league (as he was for the entire 2010s decade)
@universalplayz7496 It’s not like it wasn’t effort though. Steph put in effort so I don’t think that diminishes the offense in any way. I mean early in his career Steph’s physical limitations were what was wrong with his defense. But in a lot of games you see him be extremely aggressive playing ball denial on Post mismatches. And while I don’t consider the steals to be a good indicator of defense it does show an effort on that side of the ball.
I mean imo it’s the greatest offensive season ever. 30 pts and 7 assists on 50/45/90 is absurd especially since most of those points didn’t come from the line or inside. 400 made threes and fully spearheading the three point revolution, that’s some legendary stuff. On top of that, a player forcing big men switch on screens at 30 ft out and forcing so much miscommunication is probably the greatest part of 2016. Like Steph’s gravity is so well known but still understated in it’s impact.
And while I do value defense, it’s much harder to provide impact as a perimeter player on the defensive end, as well as, it’s easier to be able to mask some defensive shortcomings for guards.
Though with 88 Jordan I have a difficult relationship with that one cause I feel like the early 90s MVPs were better cause it felt like more winning basketball. Jordan was able to get away with high usage rates and win chips; but Jordan still has limits. 87-88 imo felt like a supercharged 17 Westbrook. I think 91 or 90 is probably the best MVP season ever. But that’s just my opinion.
I feel like 2014 KD is one of the most underrated mvp season ever
32 ppg (63,5 %TS)
7,4 rpg
5,5 apg
Led okc to 59 wins in a stacked west with russ being out for nearly 40 games
yeah that also but vs all time its going to be hard
@ yes i know but its in my personal top 20
KD & KLove (believe it or not) out played LeBron that season.
KD not being on here shows Johnnys bias. KDs 2014 season was right up there with Brons 13 and Curry’s 16 season in virtually every metric.
@@Mektek19 Yea this guy hates KD for some reason, it is well documented and he has tried to reframe it as he is an unbiased analyst.
can you do top 20 greatest non-mvp seasons?
FYI - Pretty sure he has a video like that already.
I think he dropped a video like that very recently.
2009 D-Wade
Lol that's so much more difficult to do than top 20 mvps.
@@Yinon776 2019 Harden*
Before I watch, expecting a whole lot of Kareem, Wilt, and Jordan
expectations reached!
Trio of 🐐 s
All played in easy plumber no skill eras
Why wouldn’t you
@@NathanWhyte-m8lStop wrtting fanfiction the games are available to watch players today can't even play all 82 games no defense and today the game is just a 3 point contest no wonder the ratings are down 😂😂😂😂
Olajuwon winning Finals, DPOY and MVP as the only superstar on the team
The dream 💭
In my opinion the greatest individual year in NBA history
That's the first one I thought of. Dream's MVP that season is a something you can't get better than.
So wait Robert “seven championships” Horry was a superstar on the rockets 😅
He also had 283 blocks and 213 one season
I never realised how crazy jokic was in 23/24 lol
Should be higher than bron, Shaq, and Steph, better numbers than all of them
@@Brickwilliams they should make people take an iq test before commenting on youtube, hoping this is ragebait
@@crystalizedExposed not better numbers than all of them?
I gotta give a shout out to Bill Russell in 1962. His statistics might not look as amazing as some guys, but... This was the season that Wilt scored 50 points per game and Oscar averaged a triple-double. The MVP was voted by the players at that point, and despite those performances by Wilt and Oscar, Russell still won the award by a mile. Whatever he was doing, whatever defense he was playing, however he was affecting the game, it must have truly been something to see...
we gotta go back to player voting. im a kings fan but how did domas get an mvp and dpoy vote last year
Definitely up there. I remember hearing about that. I didn't know all three great accomplishments happened that same year. Just amazing.
@@mattparker-2 players don't always vote based on winning as the #1 criteria. Players voted for Kareem winning MVP in 1975-76, despite not even making the playoffs.
Great points. We're very used to flash, novelty, and team wins being the weightiest factors in MVP debates nowadays. Perhaps those voting players in 1962 simply recognized whatever Bill Russell was doing to elevate Boston was more valuable than Wilt's and Oscar's individual statlines.
Nah wilt was busting, the players voting for 50.
Nicolas Jokic 2025 if he continue on the same rythme.
Michael Jordan having 4/5 of his mvp seasons in the top 20 is insane. Dude was on another level
yeah truly
What’s crazier is that it could have been 5/6
That's media for you. MJ was great, but also sold the NBA , which helps opinion
One of the greatest of all time
Love to see Jokic here, we are witnessing greatness
KD in 2014 should be top 15. He carried the Thunder to 59 wins (2nd best in the league, more wins than the Heat superteam) with Westbrook injured for half the season, with brilliant numbers of 32-7-5 and incredible efficiency.
Bill Walton should be in honorable mentions, because if not for his missed games he’d easily make the list
I would have put Giannis far higher considering he averaged those numbers on only 30.4 minutes a game
Awesome video, Jonny! It was awesome getting to learn about various players' amazing MVP seasons :) Your mention of Jokic reminds me of another video you made where you mentioned him and his incredible skillset (I believe it was a weekend recap, which I will comment on soon). It's amazing how he can shoot from long and short distance (and use his strength too) and pass so well. I second your thoughts about how his 23-24 season was one of the best.
MJ is incredible as well and I think he shows up most out of all players on this list. It makes sense that his 87-88 season is the best MVP season on your list. It's hard to rank them, but you make a good argument for MJ's 87-88 season as the best one, especially given how he won DPOY that season and averaged 35 PPG. That is an incredible feat and shows how incredible he was on both defense and offense.
Great video once again. Take care :)
Just another video in a long list illustrating why so many have MJ as their GOAT. Great video as always Jonny.
Another great job JA! Mj in 88 definitely holds #1 and all his picks were accurate. I hear you on Curry, but I feel that's a little high. Dream deserves a little higher, and I think the Admiral's year gets in there somewhere... Nice work!
So very much true
I really needed this video & only Jonny could provide it💯🏀 thx!!
#20 Magic Johnson 1986-1987 0:40
#19 Giannis Antetokounmpo 2019-2020 1:41
#18 Lebron James 2008-2009 2:33
#17 Michael Jordan 1991-1992 3:25
#16 Kevin Garnett 2003-2004 4:24
#15 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1970-1971 5:24
#14 Hakeem Olajuwon 1993-1994 6:26
#13 Wilt Chamberlain 1959-1960 7:25
#12 Michael Jordan 1990-1991 8:29
#11 Larry Bird 1984-1985 9:37
#10 Oscar Robertson 1963-1964 10:30
#9 Nikola Jokic 2023-2024 11:32
#8 Lebron James 2012-2013 12:46
#7 Shaquille O'Neal 1999-2000 13:52
#6 Wilt Chamberlain 1965-1966 15:01
#5 Michael Jordan 1995-1996 16:05
#4 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1971-1972 17:20
#3 Wilt Chamberlain 1966-1967 18:32
#2 Stephen Curry 2015-2016 19:48
#1 Michael Jordan 1987-1988 20:21
This list is basically why I have Wilt top 3 the quantity and quality of entries he has on this list
You tell someone in the 60s that Wilt is better than Bill and they’ll laugh at you
@@jshonsmith3399 That doesn't necessarily mean anything. If you had asked the average avid/analytical fan, they likely wouldn't have laughed. Most people aren't that smart and don't go beyond surface-level thinking.
@@Cannon4545 most analytics used today weren’t available back then. PER and “win shares” are among the worst metrics you could possible use, and they’re pretty much the only ones available for that time.
@@Cannon4545 the analytical fan you are talking about would then defend wilt by saying "big number good"
@@lukakaps9548 that... wouldn't be an analytical fan.
Most people are not very smart. So the majority consensus isn't necessarily a good one.
This is one of those times.
Haven't watched an NBA game all season... But never miss a Jonny Arnett video! Thanks
Same here.
I've TRIED to watch a couple games, but OMG!!!!! BORING!!!!!!!!! I tell myself: "If they shoot another 3, I'm out"... and they shoot yet another 3!! So I watch no more than about 3 minutes.
I love that music intro almost gave me goosebumps..MJ's dribble on tune
It would be interesting to generate such a list based on the advanced metrics only, to ask _who meant the most to their team_ when they won MVP. When you look at stats like WaR, RAPTOR-WaR, O/D BPM and win shares, they are dominated by MJ, Bron, Steph, and Jokic. Then you see random spike years from guys like Harden, Garnett, etc. Doesn't work for anyone before ~1980, but that's still 35 MVPs.
Just an idea given that there are only so many video ideas one can have
Basketball heads hate analytics
@@YourImaginaryFriendDylan because the average person does not understand them either. It's very hard to have an opinion when a) the data disagrees with you, and b) you don't understand statistics or how to evaluate the meaning of these metrics
this was a very good list my guy
Video Idea: “Top 20 Non-MVP seasons”
…and great video as always 😁
Nice Video men keep it up!
suggestion if ever
can you make
nba player TOP 10 GMSC/GameScore of all Time
or
Nba Player Top 10 GMSC/GameScore per Season
Another banger by Jonny🙏🏾
Robinson should have made it. Beyond that, solid.
But fun video.
Thanks for including a highlight of David Robinson blocking Hakeem at the beginning of the video. Unfortunately, the main highlights of the Admiral that appear on UA-cam are of him getting faked out by Hakeem and getting bulldozed by Shaw
Agreed with the list... Well put...❤
Michael Jordan 1988- the greatest mvp season in nba history!
Yeah, but wait until Jokic finishes his career 😂😂😂 because if he comes back after Dallas's game and don't miss games until the end of this season, he will have the greatest MVP season of all time. You can argue that even his 2022 season was the greatest of all time because statisticly nobody was more complete than Jokic that season, not even Jordan. He broke the all time record held by Wilt for highest per of all time and broke the all time record for highest +/- held by Lebron in 2009. But this season he is overachieving even that season. He averages nearly 30 points triple double with 56% from the field and 56% from deep. If he finishes this season let's say with 29 points, 13 rebounds and 10 assists on 56+ FG% and 40+% from deep, this would be the greatest MVP season of NBA history. For now I agree, Jordan's 1988 is the greatest because of team record, Jokic had injured and below average team in 2022 soo that's why he couldn't win more games.
@@hristijandimitrovski8664jokic in 2022 was great DONT get be wrong
But there’s a whole other side to the ball…
Passing and scoring is 1 side of the court
Defending is the other part of the court
Jokic def had a top 3 offensive season
But you also gotta look into defense, like for example Kareem mvps (early bucks) he was having an insane offensive season AND defensive season
Any of wilts mvp I would argue is better than 2022 jokic
Especially wilt in 1967 was probably the most complete basketball player that ever existed
Passing, scoring, efficiency (ignore ft% :() , rebounding, blocking , steals and winning
Everything was the best
@@universalplayz7496I mean the guy was taking about Jokic this year. Who is currently going god mode. But like he’s not going to keep this up.
@universalplayz7496 well, you can say that about his every other season, but that season was Jokic's best season defensively soo far. He led the league in defensive +/- and it wasn't actually close. He finished 2nd in defensive winshares onpy with 0,1% less than Tatum and he averaged 1,5 steals and 0,9 blocks. Not to mention that he had multiple game winning blocks that season and led his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, FG% and true shooting %. The only player in history to achieve that. For me it was Jokic's best defensive season.
@@hristijandimitrovski8664yeah but 2022 best defensive season and Jokic best defensive season Vs all time defensive seasons from all time great defenders are different things….
Like if you look at wilt in 65 or 67 they were in the same galaxy on offense
And wilt also won a lot more
But no one in their right mind would be trying to say Jokic and Wilt were even comparable on defense…
I’m not saying jokic is a bad defender
But there’s just levels and taking just Jokic offensive accomplishment isn’t enough to have the goat mvp season.
2013-2014 KD?
I agree with a lot of the comments here mentioning how you glossed over Westbrook’s MVP season in 2017. You can compare it to MJs in 1988 (which you put at number 1 on this list). The bulls in 1988 had 50 wins in a very weak eastern conference. Westbrook had 47 wins in an incredibly tough and loaded western conference. Westbrook had just lost KD and now was by himself in 2017 and nobody expected OKC to even make the playoffs. Westbrook averaged a triple double while leading the league in scoring that year. Jordan has the advantage on defense and efficiency of course… but if Jordan’s season is number one…surely Westbrook’s should make this top 20 list somewhere…
I think your list is very solid
The craziest thing about Giannis in 2019-20 campaign was that he did all that in an absurdly low minutes per game (just over 30 mpg).
Yeah, combining both stats and winning, Jordan in 1988 has the greatest MVP season of all time and Steph is right up there close 2nd in 2016. But if we are only talking about statisticly who was the most producive player on the court, it's Jokic in 2022. Jokic in 2022 broke the all time record for highest per in NBA history, record held by Wilt and I think nobody believed that record would ever be broken (Wilt's season was with 32 per, Jokic ended his season with per of 32,8). Jokic also broke the record for highest +/- of all time previously held by Lebron in 2009 (Lebron had 13,2, Jokic had 13,7). But I'm gonna tell tou this. Wait until Jokic finishes his career, because he might have the greatest MVP season even if you include winning. Especialy this year he has a shot after completely dominating his 2022 season with per of 33,4 right now and +/his +/- is 15,3 soo... Jokic this year actually has a shot if he continues to play close as good because obviously some of his numbers would drop, but if he average 29 points triple double on 40+% from deep and 56+% from the field and Nuggets win let's say 55 games, than it's clearly Jokic on top.
Jokic is gonna go down as one of the goats when it's all said and done.
dont forget its likely jordan's stats were padded at home during that season (stl, blk, ast)
@@mattparker-2 and not just that, but if we are taking winninf in consideration, 1988 was his weakest MVP season of his careerin terms of winning soo it's not like that season was soo perfect and soo complete... Still there are a bunch of players in NBA history that were able to win more games than that. Even Kobe in 2008 season had 7 wins more than Jordan in 1988 and that season even in top 30 best MVP seasons probably soo... Jokic can definitely surpasa that Jordan's season.
@@hristijandimitrovski8664 CP3 had a better MVP case than Kobe in 08'. Statistically speaking and having to carry more of his team's offense. I have Curry's 2016 MVP as the greatest MVP.
@QuestionEverything562 yeah, but I'm just talking as MVP season. For me Joker was also MVP in 2023, but Embiid won it soo I'm looking his MVP season instead of Jokic's season that year because he didn't win MVP. Anyway, even if Chris Paul won MVP in 2008, still not in top 30 MVP seasons probably.
Jonny, with all due respect, I think last MVP season eas Jokic's worst MVP season😂😂😂I mean, all 3 seasons are very close for me, but if I have to pick one, his last MVP season was slightly weaker than his previous. For me his 2022 MVP season should've been around top 5- top 7 because he broke Wilt's record for highest per of all time (32,8), he broke the record for highest +/- (13,7, previous record was 13,2 from Lebron James in 2009). Jokic that season also became the only player in history to finish a season with at least 2000 points, 1000 rebounds and 500 assists. In his last MVP season altough he played more games, he wasn't able to achieve that which tells you that statisticly he was more dominant in his 2022 season. Also in his 2022 season he led the league in triple doubles (19) and in 2024 he finished 2nd in that category behind Sabonis. Still a pretry much historic MVP season and all of his 3 seasons, but I would give the edge to his best MVP season in my opinion, 2022.
Great video, Jonny. I really thought Chef Curry was gonna be number 1, but I totally forgot about 88 Jordan. 96 Jordan is still my favorite.
Great list. It amazes me that the best MVP seasons ended without the chip at the end 😅.
2010 Lebron is such a crazy season. 30/7/8.5 on 50% fg, all defensive first team and dragged a bum ass cleveland roster to 61 wins.
Inhuman insane unreal
Rbs average of Shaq in 2000 wasn't his carrer-high, it was 13.9 in his rookie year 😉
And I think in Kareem sophomore season the best rim protector was Wilt.
one of the underrated things about oscar is that he was shooting 47-50% FG as a guard, and that was in the 60s where efficiency was much lower
I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart that you didn’t include a Bill Russell MVP season in there. I was worried it was going to be in your top 5 but a great list overall. I just feel Bills MVPs are so hollow without the scoring and having soooo many hall of famers on your team.
HE DIDNT DESERVE 3 of them and you can make a case for ALL OF THEM.He was incredibly valuable obviously but cmon…
I'd be hard pressed not to pick MJ 88, but 1962 Russell won it over the guy who averaged 50.
Jonny just dropped another banger!!! That's how you know it's a good day 🎉
Personally I think the greatest season ever was the 3421-3422 season by Paula Abdul-Jabba the Hutt. They did it all that season; performed pop music, had the unguardable skyhook, and dropped defenders into the Rancor pit.
Did you use A.I. for that?
@@penkima4923 If by A.I. you mean Aut Ism, then yes
😂😂😂
Only having '87 Magic Johnson at #20 is insane... Shouldve been easy top 10.
I love how we just don't not give a single fuck about Westbrook averaging a triple double in 2017 anymore.
For 50 years we all were in awe of Oscar Robinson's triple double season, then it happens again and we all say bah what ever, stad padding, grumble grumble.
I think Russ is one of those guys that will get looked back on more fondly than he is now, stat king who never won anything.
Why no Westbrook?
Because it’s just a lot of stat padding. His play doesn’t lead to winning. The team was sixth on the west. Russ is empty calories of stealing rebounds from teammates, getting lots of points but on low efficiency and lots of assists because he always had the ball. His peak is impressive, I’m not saying he was bad, but he’s not in this category
@@qqw743 Statistics literally proved that when Westbrook was playing the team performed far better. He also did not steal rebounds, did you even watch the Thunder. Their entire identity was a fast pace. With Steven Adams boxing out opponents Westbrook could get the rebound and immediately start the offense.
@@turtle27835 which statistics?
@ because the stats I’ve seen over Westbrooks career show that he’s one of the worst shots ever and the games that I’ve watched show that he’s a bonehead on defense, never knows where to be, and constantly goes at 100 miles an hour when the team needs him to operate within their system. He never adapts. Phoniest MVP ever.
@@qqw743 @qqw743 i mean his on/off that year was +12.5 per 100 possessions, and in the playoffs it was much better than that. Without Westbrook that is a lottery team. So yes, it 100% led to winning in his peak, to a very great extent.
"because the stats I’ve seen over Westbrooks career show that he’s one of the worst shots ever and the games that I’ve watched show that he’s a bonehead on defense"
WB was a better shooter his MVP season, part of why he was so dominant. You couldn't concede the shot like you can now, and his free throws were automatic unlike now.
Basically, the things people criticize him for were at their least egregious in his MVP year, and the things people praise him for were at their best. His MVP season deserves to be on this list.
"assists because he always had the ball."
His volume was high, true, but he is and was a GREAT passer. You can't take that away from him.
Kareem was blockin and skyhookin the hell outta fools as a Milwaukee Buck in the 70's.
i feel like the 2019-20 season from giannis should also be included despite the ending in the bubble, the team was on pace to 70+ wins before the shutdown, the team was historical on defense, and giannis is performing one of the greatest 2 way experience you'll ever seen, he was averaging the 30+pts, 13-14 rebs, 5 ast and was averaging 30+% from 3 while being a menace on defense...and they have some crazy win streaks too, he ended the season with both mvp and dpoy while brook deserve some of the credit for the defense, giannis was a huge part of the defensive system, giannis have one of the best defensive field goals that season holding people below 40% fg
Ill never forgive them voters for not giving LeBron the DPOY in 2013. It will never make sense .
except, it does make sense. I know you're probably just a casual fan who just goes with the narrative, but i'm gonna drop this here. Nearly every defensive statistical stat goes in favor of Marc Gasol. I mean EVERY stat. Not only that, marc also was a contributor to his team having the best defense in the leauge. I used to be like you, but then i wondered "why have i never actually heard a reason for why Lebron should have won it?"
@ because i have eyes. LeBron was clearly the best defender that year and could guard 1-5. A casual fan like you can easily go look up a number, u probably think Rudy Gobert is a great defender too. Lol
@@gamergod3798 i mean its just weird because those same stats will tell you mj shouldn't have won dpoy (among many other winners), but he did, and now its a point in the goat debate
@@crystalizedExposed ok? who's talking about MJ? Even if that's true, MJ clears lebron defensivley anyway
ABSOLUTELY AGREE.YOU MUST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PERIMETER DEFENDER VS THE PAINT.GOBERT GETTING IT EVERY HEAR NOW ITS DISGUSTING
No Russell Westbrook is crazy Ngl
He was a 6th seed and was kinda inefficient. Def a great season but these were better imo as well. He just had a ton of triple doubles which Jokic did but better
only got it for the trip doub, bro was the 6th seed
@@darshin95 And they would have been the worst team in the league without him. Westbrook definitely deserves to be on this list.
It ain't crazy. Dudes that made the list were very efficient, won games and a lot of them made their teammates better. 2017 Westbrook was Russ' best individual showing for a season but it also contained a lot of his worsts in the league like super high usage rate to impact ratio, high turnover rates and among the poorest efficiencies in the league for a superstar. He most likely even made his teammates worse by not having them be a lot involved.
@@buenvidanadz1969 "super high usage rate to impact ratio,"
His impact was enormous that season dude lol
"and among the poorest efficiencies in the league"
His 3pt shooting and free throw shooting were actually good that year.
"He most likely even made his teammates worse by not having them be a lot involved."
Definitely not Steven Adams! And let's not forget he averaged almost 11 assists per game. That is 'getting your teammates involved.'
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As a Curry hater he can be number 1 on the list it's a regular season award and choking in the finals has nothing to do with it being absolutely unanimous and incredible during the regular season
well being best scorer and defender in the league in a single season is more impressive.. plus MJ had 35ppg even steph in his best shooting form wont average that much
Agreed, being a two-way player and the best on both ends is way more impressive than one dimensional
Was about to comment to make a video about best non MVP seasons but i remembered GOAT made that already
Do a top 10 most fundamental NBA players of all time
The KD disrespect is insane can't believe it...
Tim Duncan says hold my beer.
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AI is taking our jobs and our identity.
Lebron not getting DPOY in 2009 is a joke!!! The winner didn’t even make all defence team that year lol
*2013
#1 was well deserved. Just more goat confirmation honestly
Hakeem has to be higher
Being the only unanimous mvp and best record in regular season should automatically put that mvp in the number 1 spot.
Mj glazed is quite crazy.
Giannis is higher in my book. Not just because of the rare MVP/DPOY feat, but also because he only had to play 30 MPG. Apart from that I think it's a good list with a number one that was clear from the beginning.
Curry barely played those 4th quarters too. It makes absolutely no sense. You had to look up when the Warriors were playing - they were appointment television.
I wouldn’t mind an in depth 2016 video if that hadn’t already been done.
you just need to check MPG to know.. curry had 34mpg yeah probably lower than the OLD era but jokic had the same numbers
@@legenddaryl537 yea idk why that's confusing to people lol.
Wilts 55 ppg season should be number 1 spot... How he didnt win mvp that year is still insane.. also joker this years mvp is gonna make a case for #1 spot too.. westbrooks triple double season deserves a spot too
Westbrook also averaged 6 turnovers per game, and he shot 43 % from the field. ESPN won't tell you that. And he was fighting his teammates over rebounds, and he passed up on uncontested dunks to get his 10 assists per game.
55 ppg season is a fraud that's why. Exemplified by the BS 100 pt game that's a stain on the league's history.
@@scottb3034 Your weak generation of fans and players are the stain on the league's history.
@@penkima4923 And what is my generation of fan and player?
@@scottb3034 A stain. Weak.
Hakeem is too low
How can Giannis's 2019-2020 season be so low on the list?
Thanks
I would add a few ABA MVPs, particularly Dr J (73-74 and 75-76), Hawkins (67-68), and Haywood (69-70). Doc should have at least one in the top 20, and the others deserve at least Honorable Mention.
Steph MVP was absolutely insane in offense but also very mediocre in defense.
led the league in steals, so that doesn't hold up.
@@Arctanis-vt3hlAI also led the league in steals per game but that's doesn't mean he was a good defender.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl Steals are a part of defense.. but just a part.
Doesn’t matter when his offense is so good they’re beating everyone by 30
@@blakeleonard3990 Steph can't do that on his own, though. He requires another shooter in order to start winning by 30. He wouldn't fit well into just any team.
MJ, the uncontested GOAT, objectively proven once again.
"uncontested" lemme guess 6-0 vs plumbers makes him the goat, lmao dudes demar derozan in this era
I appreciate that you, as a Kobe fan, didn’t include Kobe. Kinda underhanded but I think that says a lot 🤷♂️
Remember during Steph 2016 season they were really debating whether he’s in the goat convo with mj it was insane
Can't say I do remember that. Probably because only casuals would debate over something like that. Steph wasn't inside top-50 all time at that time according to many analysts.
Thats insanely casual
nobody was saying that, especially after the finals.
knew MJ's 1988 was gonna be #1.
MJ and Wilt are the best individual basketball players of all time.
Lebron taking that team to 66 wins is ridiculous
Here come the Jordashians talking about how amazing the rest of that CLE roster was to diminish him
ridiculous? that Cavs teams are underrated they are the #3 defense in the league.
@@Reaper13-hi3yothat team was blown up in 11, don’t forget context
@@vroomvroom6325 They only like context in their favor. Talking to them about context is a lost cause.
@@strmshadow8411 Agreed here, they just like shouting numbers. When you lose a lot of your pieces and get injuries to others you will drop significantly.
Great to see the GOAT at #1
I'm surprised but not surprise that embiid didn't make the list
1975/1976 Kareem despite the losing record… literally the “most valuable player” to his Lakers, who probably win only 10-15 games without him on the team!
They did not even make the playoffs. However, it was not a losing record.
@ I just double-checked, and they finished 40-42.
@@davymarcelo3901 My bad then. You were right. It was a losing record then. I believe the players mostly voted for him that season.
That can be said about the vast majority of the stars that won MVP after 1969. The 94 and 95 Rockets and Spurs are probably the worst team in the league without their MVPs.
Ngl bill at 1962 gotta be the greatest simply for the fact whatever he did that season was more valuable than someone averaging 50/25 and 30/10/10 and 38/20…..
Like he must’ve gotten a 25 blocks per game or something…..
Gotta be up there. Just alotta great ball being played back there.
Mvp st the time was basically a regular season fmvp
Let's say MJ had Westbrook's MVP stats in 88...they had same amount of wins anyway...You would still say MJ number 1 MVP...so why Westbrook not top 20 then?
So you are just creating a totally hypothetical scenario and just assuming he would still say number 1?
didnt know westbrook also dpoy candidate/winner??
MJ didn't average 6 turnovers per game, or shoot 43 % from the field. And MJ wasn't fighting his teammates over rebounds, or pass up on uncontested dunks to get his assists.
@@penkima4923 So MVPs are about turnovers and FG%,Ok gotcha
@@Neso-be2lj You said that.
I won't put in the work of ranking that many MVP seasons, just will say any of Wilt's, Kareem's or Jordan's MVP's could top the list. I wouldn't have put Curry's 2016 MVP that high, but could understand anyone ranking it in the top 5.
Magic at #20 is nuts!!!
Great. Job Jonny of having Michael's eight seven,eighty eight season. I was a Showtime fan at the time, along with a Wilkins fan. But Michael was clearly the best player in the league.......Steph Curry? Hmmmm?
Any load management during these mvp years?
No sir .
Jonny, for some of the videos like these, where it's the best X number of whatever of all time, could you do a second version of the video that excludes MJ, LeBron, magic, bird, wilt, bill russell, and Kareem? Those 7 players usually make up 70% of these videos and I know it's the facts, but hearing the same players over and over gets repetitive. Everyone knows who's going to be on the list, it's just a matter of what order.
David Robinson??
Olajuwon should be at least #2 on this list. You forgot to mention he won the title and Finals MVP that same season he won MVP and DPOY and is still the only player ever to do so in the same season!!! He was also an All-Star, All-Defensive 1st team, All NBA 1st team, and finished 3rd overall in points that season
Reg season award. Playoffs are irrelevant
Westbrook 2017 better than all.Bad list
The correct answers is Hakeem 1994 DPOY, MVP, FMVP, Chip. Nobody else has ever done.
This is why #20 is not accurate. Bird should have received his fourth consecutive MVP that season. That year, Ainge, McHale, Parish, and Walton were injured consistently throughout the regular season and playoffs. Despite all the injuries, Bird dragged the Celtics to the NBA Finals. It was actually Bird's greatest season. This was the year NBA awards started getting political. Magic was great that season without a doubt, but he was still surrounded be more talent than any other team.
It's always players who play well on both sides of the court for me. What good is scoring if you allow the same amount or more points on the defensive end?
There's only one basketball but there's five players, so offensive is more important than defense.
@@penkima4923 That's not true.... if anything that accentuates the importance of defense.
You stop the ball, you stop the team. You stop the ball, you give your team/yourself easy scoring chances.
The best players of all-time played defense not just offense.
@@scottb3034 Not every best player of all time played good defense. They could essentially defend only one opposing player, so defense isn't as important.
I don't know about the best MVP season, but Karl Malone's MVP for the 98-99 season is by far the worst ever.
Worst ever? No, there are definitely much worse MVPs.
@@facelessandnameless It was one of the worst seasons of Malone's career and it was gifted to him because the NBA didn't want to give the 98-99 MVP to Iverson. My opinion has nothing to do with his personal life as many would assume.
I personally don't have it as the worst ever, but a very valid reason for doing so is the fact that it came in a 50 game season. I have it bottom 6 personally.
Wes Unseld and Dave Cowens had worse.
@@VelaniTheOne I think Karl Malone's 98-99 MVP was the worst because he was gifted it only because the NBA didn't want to pass the torch to the next generation by giving it to Iverson...they even strangely voted Mourning higher than Duncan to ensure a young player wouldn't win.
I've gone through and ranked every MVP before and I agreed perfectly with the placement of some (like Kareem's 72) and saw the reasoning for basically every other one. The only one I *strongly* disagreed with was how low 2009 Lebron was. 2013 Lebron was a better player, but in terms of value, 2009 Lebron was his peak. His averages are brought down by the era, but his advanced stats are out of this world and he had team success. I have it as #2 to only Jordan's 88 which is in my mind, undeniably #1.
MJ is the GOAT of all sports
It might be interesting if you cap the best players to only have 1 MVP season in your list
Speaking of which, how many seasons do you think Elgin woulda won MVP with the numbers he posted coming second to Wilt?
Not sure what you're asking there. Baylor came second in the MVP-race once, and that was to Bill Russell, not Wilt.
95 david robinson should have been in the top 20. He basically was a replay of 94 Hakeem.
IMO Curry's season should be no. 1. I'm pretty sure you just didn't put him there 'cause in videos like this, Jordan should be in the top 'cause he's the best player ever but even if his best MVP season was, let's say, just no. 4 in this list, I still would have him as the GOAT. Curry's 2016 season had phenomenal record breaking regular season wins and arguably the most efficient MVP season of all time.
Agree with MJ's at no. 1 but Hakeem's 94 season should easily be in the top 5!