The Unflankable Yaricade
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
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What a display of foul tactics. I love it.
He is still skaven at heart
In the art of war and love which is a battlefield there do not exist any foul tactics. LUL
A shamefur dispray!
shameful, one might say
his whole channel is really just about bullying the ai. i love it.
Disgusting! I love it!
😂😂😂
why did you never do that
Not enough Kablooey for Pilps' taste i guess 😅@@bertibert6656
Why, and if isnt is marvelous ? Splendid !
Never even knew or considered it! Will do now however!@@bertibert6656
Or you could call it... The Yaricade!
EDIT: Woo, I won!
100%
Sounds yarimazing
That is a great title for this technique!
I think he changed the title to it
He changed the title to match, so congrats on the name lol
Who would win?
- Katana Samurai hardened with glorious nippon cheats, folded 100000 times
- A flimsy piece of wood
a long spear peasant-boi
@@Srymakmany such cases
Tbf looking at it logically it gonna be pretty hard to even cross the deployable wooden screen knowing there's thosuands of spear armed men at the other side XD
everyone knows nippon steel sucks, pointy stick forever
A staunch line of spears always wins. 😂
I've played this game for 700 hours and never knew you had deployables holy shit
1100 hrs here, knew about them, but this is next level stuff clearly, wow.
It only happens if your army stays still for a whole turn and then gets attacked by the enemy. You rarely ever get to use them because you can move so far on Shogun 2 an enemy army is usually within range before the conditions are met. I'm almost certain another game has this exact same mechanic Empire and Napoleon?? I think you can stand on wall barricades and plant mines in those wait Medieval 2 has them too I remember using stakes for English Longbows.
@@pablopablo3834 Stakes in Medieval 2 are a unit ability that some (usually higher tier) ranged units have, it's not the same system as deployables in later games.
YEAH WTF I'm thinking the same right now.
I've only been able to deploy it once or twice. 550 hours but split across base and Fall of the Samurai.
Loving the historical stuff mate
Using temporary structures and superior tactics with spearmen.. Legend is Oda Nobunaga now.
didn't nearly all japanese generals, or medieval warfare leaders in general, use this tactic? i mean... the french and british sure did
@@udozocklein6023 Not really. Usually, people didn't build barricades on the battlefield. The most notable cases in Medieval Europe were the Hussites with their carts, and later the English with their longbowmen during the HYW, and the French with their artillery and gunmen during its last battle at Castillon.
In Japan, Nobunaga was the first one to become famous for combining trenches, barricades, spearmen, and gunmen to take out the Takeda army at Nagashino. The tactic was later reused by his successors in the few conflicts that followed his death.
nice joke. usually people didn't build barricades on battlefields - just the two most important players and also roma and many more used the tactic when it made sense.@@Knoloaify
@udozocklein6023 There is a big difference between a handful of battles over the entirety of the medieval period and "nearly everyone did it".
If it was as common as you say we'd naturally see it in most battles, and yet we don't. Or please tell me about the barricades of Bouvines, Hattin, Nicopolis, Hastings, the battles of Kawanakajima, Okehazama, etc.
You said nearly all of them did, so surely those field battles and many more would have people building trenches and barricades on thr battlefield right?
@@Knoloaifyno by Odas early pike and shot existed and it was the start of trench warfare
Finally, someone thought to close the gap in Yari
There is a joke here and I don't get it. I feel so dumb
@@HansWurst1569 If there is, it's gone over my head
@@Makofueled maybe its the "Yuri>Yari" hence gap closed...but if its not, it went over my head too
@@awloreits because when you select multiple units and deploy them as a yari wall, there will be gaps between the units. If you put every unit together, its a gigantic speerwall
@@leonottens9891 thank you for the explanation, definitively not what i was thinking
How could you not call that "the Yaricade"?
I didn't think of it. But I've changed the title now.
That is wild, I really like using the deployable walls like that to create little forts but had never thought about making channels like that for my Yari.
Making a little fort where your yari can guard the openings in a V shaped formation works really well.
You can also do a Shogun I style bridgehead (90% of the battle maps are rivers with 1 bridge 😭). Need at least 2 layers to make it work (gaps/pathing nonsense), but he had plenty of archers to do it.... and could have then ran the archers into the woods (AI so forgetful). Once the tarball bridgehead is engaged, get the archers in range from the side and rain hell down on them while screening with yari sam and sending cav after AI's ranged units.
Routes what normally would be considered a key to victory, then overcomes all odds by using the AI against itself while taking few casualties. Can't be more LoTW than this. 😂
Legend's biggest advantage in Shogun 2 is that he has been to Rome and around.
The Japanese won't know what happened in Thermopylae and the strategy used there 😂
Actually they do ! Check for Tomoe Gozen and the Battle of Uchide no Hama which happened in 1184
@@meksil8776true, forgive the guy cuz he doesn't really know most of Japanese history, a shameful display! 😂
You mean the strategy of using chokepoints? Probably the most universally recognizable strategies out there. Sun Tzu even mentions it back in the 400s... BC...
Thermamoplyae didn't invent using chokepoints, every society already knows about them.
You know the gloves are coming off when legend starts control groups ;)
I've always used a yari wall, but never like this. Legend after all these years, you still show us new tricks! much love
When Yari Ashigaru fall below 40 (?) models, Yari Wall is disabled due to casualties, essentially.
I never thought about using the barricades like this...Absolutely brilliant
I never used these walls before. This is beautiful, a staunch line of bamboo shielding the spears.
This has got to be the first time I've seen Deployables used in this way. I gotta give it a try Myself
lol gotta wait for an opportunity to actually use it as it requires not moving your unit for a turn
Damn this one is insane. So creative with all the tactics, tight maneuver and ofc the cheese.
Very fun and informative episode.
Now that you are re-connecting with all these older total wars perhaps you can make some updated tier lists as to which one has “the most fun battles” or “the most balanced mechanics” etc!
Imagine a total war game where positioning, morale, fatigue, and flanking matters.
^this
Unpopular opinion: Total War peaked with Shogun 2.
@@SuperSaiyanD48 thats not unpopular its a fact
@@SuperSaiyanD48 rome 2 and attile were awesome as well. id say the good total wars were rome 2, shogun, medival 2, attila and empires
@@TheLoki7281Rome 2 was not good. Rome 1 was far better, otherwise I agree.
Small correction here: Shogun 2 very much gives a lot of autoresolve power to archers because for some reason it assumes that you can perfectly kite the AI. FOTS is the best example of this
This feels like a real army tactic that the Japanese would use. A bunch of sturdy field walls that the enemy commander is too dumb to figure out a way to get around. Would go in the history books for sure as one of those truly pivotal battles for sure!
ive been playing shogun 2 since its launch and this is by far the most big brain play ive ever seen using the barricades
Yarimazing!
The staunch line of spears really made a comeback...
What a title, what a thumbnail, what a channel.
Legend is still fucking Legend doesn't matter wich Game
Having a decent number of archers is still very useful in Shogun 2, since having ranged superiority is very important since the enemy likes to sit on hills. Not to mention sieges. Definitely not more than 10 per army though.
If you bring more than 6 units of archers, you are dead meat from enemy cavlry. Cavlry is very popular in multiplayer.
@@cezarmagicchess3665 multilayer is a whole different ballgame. 4-8 archers is the ideal number in campaign. The AI is not the best at effectively using its cavalry.
@GeraltofRivia22 I agree with you in campaign.
Imagine if skavenslave spears had the yari wall ability 😁
imagine if warhammer units had formations in general
Tightly packed infantry in warhammer is just fodder for artillery and magic lol
Look up the “unit formation ultimate” mod. Lot of units start punching above their weight but oh god do aoe spells and anti-infantry artillery hurt. Corse that’s what cheese is for.
@@qwerasdf-oy6uo you could just give them magic res in formation as dwarfs do use runes to blunt magic.
Warhammer is geared to much into stats and point and click spells over tactics.
It has gotten worse since then.
But there's a few mods which help with that.
Love seeing Ledge doing older TW stuff again
Legend using the old "Julius Caesar Special." Turns out that shit works against more than just Gauls!! Loving the Shogun 2 content Legend!
what if they would have build a wall around his wall? then he would have build an extra wall inside of his wall. roman wall races where hillarious :D
Still looks beautiful.
historical spear units: end of an empire, linchpin of strategies
Warhammer spear units: dies to the unit it's supposed to counter
Archer spam is definitely viable though, especially as Chosokabe.
Harder on higher battle difficulties though- at some point you come across a army simply too big, and it falls apart.
Therapist: Skaven tactics aren't in Shogun 2, they can't hurt you.
Skaven tactics in Shogun 2:
I always used stand and fight on capture point in siege defense, just to show the enemy how chad I am. LOL.
😂😂😂
If there is no enemy nearby your general while using stand and fight, he literally sits on a chair like a badass
Warhammer 3 Legend: we corner camp with cavalry.
Shogun 2 Legend: you are like little baby. Watch this.
*Corner camps in the middle of a map.*
Legend's brain actually requires extensive study
The yari walls can technically hit through the barricades to the units attempting to flank so that can be pretty useful in impassable terrain scenarios where units don't have to set up inside the barricades.
I gotta disagree on Missile Infantry here. While the AI gets an accuracy bonus, the Chosokabe version of the bow infantry is still as strong or slightly stronger than the AI and he should definitely focus on getting the bow warrior monks and build his armies around them.
Cavalry is overall too vulnerable to be effective but I don't know if this holds up with the Takeda version.
I have played this game since day 1 and never knew you could run in yari wall as long as you do not click an attack order. Too bad CA took out a lot of tactics in their modern games.
You say cheese I say unorthodox millitary tactics.
Wow I have 650+ hrs in this game and I didn't know until know that ashigaru can run in yari wall hahah. Also this tactics was new to me, so it was very cool to watch this battle :)
is this modded warhammer 3?
Yes
playing as nippon
@@LegendofTotalWar cathay is looking weird these days
Legend was quite lucky the AI didn't have pit of shades
did it look bether???
When you thought you've seen everything from Legend, he pulls this off... LOL
It was so rare to watch some videos because I was sick of Warhammer 3. This new historic series is a blast for me. Thank you legend.
you've turned this entire situation into a Western Roman Empire settlement defense
historical games rules! great video too legend.
That Chosakabe joke
Brilliant
tremendous. and let’s just take another moment to appreciate the game’s gorgeous soundtrack
listening to these first few minutes would explain why I'm so bad at this game
By far one of the most brilliant TW videos I’ve ever seen.
@legendoftotalwar
Dude unlocked control group is shift+G Pains me that you don't know this 😂
"Hehee, we are going to use deployeable walls to really screw over the enemy's pathfinding" - Legend of Total War
"Wait, why are my units confused about pathfinding in these barricades?" - Also Legend of Total War
Honestly not too far off from how sengoku era battlefields were.
Just walls and gates deployed everywhere.
I started playing total war because I love strategy and tactics. I wanted to emulate famous battle strategies used by legendary generals. Instead, I've mastered turtles and other cheese strategies that only work against brain dead AI lmao.
I have 963 hours in shogun 2, I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF LAYERING THE DAMN BAMBOO WALLS.
This was an incredible battle to watch legend thank you so much!!!
Got bored of WH and stopped watching your vids for a while and have been playing shogun the past few years, funny that everyone else seems to be going to same path, It's so much more interesting imo
Absolutely disgusting and dishonorable tactics. Beautiful!
well would fall apart at the POint that you could not get the archers out of the picture rome 2 make not lead them totaly unprotected like shogun 2 did i peronallly like archers even in field battles at best up hill in defense position protected by forest from counter archery yust to be sure too pull them of presction increasin regions with like 93 or choabe 98 or even better with bow monks prection unleast there are eltte troops or extrealy outnmubered there not much left of the enemy at meele point
Glory .... and cheese to the shogun !!!
Oda Nobunaga would be proud of you)
0:50 So you're saying we should rely on... a staunch line of spears?
I'm surprised you still remember all the cheese there is for every particular Total War, especially because some things work in the opposite way in one game or the other. Always honoring the UA-cam name lol.
Legend, please stream the new old world campaign mod on TWW3, it looks incredible, 600 settlements, i think it'll do well for you
Imagine the enemy walking up to this and being like "Okay yeah I see what they've got going on here! We should definitely walk into that!"
When they refuse to get into position when in wall,manually press run on the little menu on the left. It works.
The odds don’t seem all that bad with classic tactics actually, Bow Samurai have a fair chance at Katana Samurai, especially since he is of the Chosokabe clan, wich has the best archers. Of course you would use the deployables and the retreat the archers as soon as the Katana Samurai get in range. The Yari Ashigaru form a powerful yari wall, wich gives them an edge in chokeholds between the barricades. Also consider the light cavalry as quite formidable if they charge into the rear of some Katana Samurai, as long as you manage to avoid the enemy’s Yari Samurai. His general is also much better, wich could help with the ashigaru moral problem, but if you manage to hold the line, this won’t be an issue anyway. In my experience, Yari Ashigaru fair better in line battles than their samurai counterpart when pitted against eachother, since they have longer spears and higher numbers in their individual units.
Shogun 2 campaign when? Seriously tho, nice video, keep up such great content. ❤
It is funny how this cheese is much less cheesy and almost realistic than any of the WH cheese
This video blew my mind.
One challenge I would like to set up someday is completly normal Shogun 2, except the yari wall is not available.
That was a cool battle, fun to watch. Thanks Legend.
Jeff, the God of Cheese has visited us this day.
I would call this cheezy but Caesar proved how effective instant fortifications can be.
How do you get the deployebales?
If there is cheese, legend will sniff it out
This is what Sun Tzu was talking about
Legend it's not a secret you beat it once by yourself and then record. I think anyone would do that.
Yea he has never posted one of these where he fails
@@marcoeire44 Well ofc not. I just hate it when he says "I can't send them that way there will prob be pathfinding issues"
Well yea cause you just did it on your own xD
If could like two time, I would !
You can't remove the skaven from the skaven and that great !
And just like that, the Barricade Yari Wall was born. And that's why this channel is called "LegendOfTotalWar"
bro is making his mouse work overtime
fucking glad to see you putting out content again... RL is a thing and when one needs a break the need a break... im just glad your back
video is only 7 days old? Good to see that people still post tactical videos for Total War Shogun 2. The funny thing is the moment I saw that you're taking a defensive stand with the barricade I know exactly what shenanigans you're going to do. The pathing for the AI is honestly quite dumb and highly abusable. Can't tell the number of times I've pulled off impossible battles with matchlocks and barricade combination. A lot of micro, but very satisfying when you've absolutely trashed the primary stack of the enemy with some cheapo stack shenanigans...
I think one thing you forgot to mention is what level of difficulty the game is set at?
Honestly expected you to keep the archers in the middle of a fort of the shields
How about do the exact same thing but make those corridors twice as long?
Cheese. Glorious cheese!
I'm new to Total War having only played Warhammers and Rome Remastered, so this is really interesting to see all the historical titles and how they played.
I usually just run for the hiils and make a defence there, 80% chance of winning with an sufficient amount of ashigaru spear wall and a buttload of ranged units
I can see why people really love this game, the music and battles were quality
This amount of cheese is cruel, the Japanese are lactose intolerant you know!
Field battle... legend builds a bungalow
A simple trick to get Stand and Fight where you want them is to first dismount the general before using it. He will deploy where he is standing but either way, I don't see it as feasible in this battle anyway
Im loving the shogun content
You have heard of the yari wall
Now you face a power much older and darker
The yari cube
damn, why i dont have the deployable defences of matchlock ashigaru? xD is it because im playing the Darthmod ? love the vid!
Legendary battle
Battles like this prove why you're the Legend
This is like my English campaign with Medieval Total War 2 and archers spikes. Long disruptive spikes, then shove tough units behind it and just repeatedly kite the enemy into / onto them. If I'd had this in MTW2 it would have just been endless killzones.