Just noticed some of The Noble Savage intro in the background! Absolutely happy to know Virgil still looks back to Planet X. Hope Derek and him reunite soon
Polish musicians respect Virgil very much. For me, he shaped my perception of music. In my opinion, Virgil's work will be appreciated in some time.Best greetings from Poland. Faithful fan.
As an electrical engineer, with 20 years experience in building broadcast facilities covering both audio and video domains, in both analogue and digital domains, I'm sorry but David here is selling snake oil for what are short length cables. His argument for higher quality USB cables allowing for better sounding audio (beyond not dropping packets and causing interruptions, which makes a bad cable) is simply a lie. The benefits in higher quality cables are purely in their physical reliability and providing a solid connection that won't flop about in whatever receptacle you plug it into. The electrical characteristics, particularly over short lengths, only becomes of great significance when you're dealing with very long distances and particularly high bandwidth digital video signals, where the impedance of a cable will certainly have an impact on the data eventually dropping out but in the typical audio studio or stage environment, that is not going to be an issue and partly because audio isn't so demanding on bandwidth.
BoneToner, I could not agree more. It's interesting that these manufacturers never provide the electrical specifications of their cables that actually matter in determining their performance... which they always claim is superior (but in reality isn't). Given the source and load impedance as well as the cable's electrical characteristics, you can easily calculate e.g. the cut-off frequency (-3 dB point) of the cable acting as a low-pass filter... which is normally very far away from the human hearing range. That's why cables are usually acoustically transparent. One more important thing is interference and shielding, but that is why we use 3-pin ("balanced") XLR cables or why digital cables use twisted pairs. As always, manufacturers are building on customer's lack of knowledge and cognitive biases. That's why some of them have bought expensive plastic pucks that they placed on their stereo and they are absolutely convinced that it makes the sound of their system so much better.
@@borisbobowski628 NO, don't waste a single cent on this scam. These cables have been tested over and over again, always with the same result. If it sounds different to you then either you have a broken cable or its simply cognitive biases as play. Cable manufacturers exploit that fact about human nature.
@@borisbobowski628 Boris, I've measured and done null difference tests down to -130 dB and cables that cost hundreds and even thousands of dollars didn't perform any better than 25 $ ones. Some high end cables actually performed worse. But in the normal case, to get to the point where you could hear differences if there were any, you'd have to listen at 150 dB SPL and higher. Cables can be modeled electrically with a few very simple components. If the manufacturers were serious and not scammers then they would provide the electrical specifications for their products. Give me the numbers and I can tell you exactly what effect the cable will have on the electrical signal. But those audiophile manufacturers don't provide those numbers. They just make false advertising based on subjective claims. Go figure. Some of these high-end products are produced in the same factories, the same production lines, as 100x cheaper cables. Go figure. People hear differences because they want to hear differences. It's a provable fact. It has been shown over and over and over again. Cognitive biases are a fact of human nature. If spending large sums of money on useless products makes you happy then so be it. Admit it, stop supporting this scam and move on.
1:15 "Cables cut the sound, the highs, the bottom-end, the mids." .. This is BS. Cables act as simple low-pass filters, so they attenuate high frequencies. Of course +/- 0.1 dB at 20 kHz will be completely inaudible, but that doesn't prevent snakeoil salesmen from selling you pieces of wire for a small fortune ... without providing the electrical specifications that would let the customer determine if the cable is actually better. 1:41 "I make different cables for different styles of music... there is no perfect cable for each kind of music.. This is my philosophy." ... I'm sorry, but this is a BS philosophy, as it makes no sense. Cables are supposed to be acoustically transparent, not have a "sound" on their own. If your cable produces a particular sound then you have a (fixed) effects device in your hands and not a good cable. Now if your philosophy is selling expensive fixed FX devices in the form of cables then this is fine. 4:42 "Cables are like an instrument." No, they really aren't. This is even more wrong than the previous point, as instruments produce sounds. But cables are passive pieces of wires whose electrical job is to transport voltage or power over a certain distance with minimal electrical losses.
If David is just playing with the conductor/soder material and plug type all he changes between cables is resistance, quite dubious to claim differences in quality of audio on that basis. At most more expensive cables will isolate from noise better and last longer. Any claims about warmer tone in a digital cable are entirely bogus. Let "audiophiles" spend their money on whatever they want but this seems like misleading advertising?
Just noticed some of The Noble Savage intro in the background! Absolutely happy to know Virgil still looks back to Planet X. Hope Derek and him reunite soon
Totalmente de acuerdo amigo!!! Esto es un inmenso motivo de felicidad
Polish musicians respect Virgil very much. For me, he shaped my perception of music. In my opinion, Virgil's work will be appreciated in some time.Best greetings from Poland. Faithful fan.
Poland is so popular now with bass guitars. Mayones, Maruszczyk, and others. Great stuff !
As an electrical engineer, with 20 years experience in building broadcast facilities covering both audio and video domains, in both analogue and digital domains, I'm sorry but David here is selling snake oil for what are short length cables. His argument for higher quality USB cables allowing for better sounding audio (beyond not dropping packets and causing interruptions, which makes a bad cable) is simply a lie.
The benefits in higher quality cables are purely in their physical reliability and providing a solid connection that won't flop about in whatever receptacle you plug it into. The electrical characteristics, particularly over short lengths, only becomes of great significance when you're dealing with very long distances and particularly high bandwidth digital video signals, where the impedance of a cable will certainly have an impact on the data eventually dropping out but in the typical audio studio or stage environment, that is not going to be an issue and partly because audio isn't so demanding on bandwidth.
BoneToner, I could not agree more. It's interesting that these manufacturers never provide the electrical specifications of their cables that actually matter in determining their performance... which they always claim is superior (but in reality isn't).
Given the source and load impedance as well as the cable's electrical characteristics, you can easily calculate e.g. the cut-off frequency (-3 dB point) of the cable acting as a low-pass filter... which is normally very far away from the human hearing range. That's why cables are usually acoustically transparent.
One more important thing is interference and shielding, but that is why we use 3-pin ("balanced") XLR cables or why digital cables use twisted pairs.
As always, manufacturers are building on customer's lack of knowledge and cognitive biases. That's why some of them have bought expensive plastic pucks that they placed on their stereo and they are absolutely convinced that it makes the sound of their system so much better.
Try IT Out, its Not snakeoil its Just another Sound. Maybe its Not die you but IT Sounds completly different.
@@borisbobowski628 NO, don't waste a single cent on this scam. These cables have been tested over and over again, always with the same result.
If it sounds different to you then either you have a broken cable or its simply cognitive biases as play. Cable manufacturers exploit that fact about human nature.
@@xnoreq what is your Setup?
@@borisbobowski628 Boris, I've measured and done null difference tests down to -130 dB and cables that cost hundreds and even thousands of dollars didn't perform any better than 25 $ ones.
Some high end cables actually performed worse.
But in the normal case, to get to the point where you could hear differences if there were any, you'd have to listen at 150 dB SPL and higher.
Cables can be modeled electrically with a few very simple components. If the manufacturers were serious and not scammers then they would provide the electrical specifications for their products.
Give me the numbers and I can tell you exactly what effect the cable will have on the electrical signal.
But those audiophile manufacturers don't provide those numbers. They just make false advertising based on subjective claims.
Go figure.
Some of these high-end products are produced in the same factories, the same production lines, as 100x cheaper cables.
Go figure.
People hear differences because they want to hear differences. It's a provable fact. It has been shown over and over and over again. Cognitive biases are a fact of human nature.
If spending large sums of money on useless products makes you happy then so be it. Admit it, stop supporting this scam and move on.
The music in the end is amazing!
It's 'The dawn of Time', from Virgil's album of the same name. Insane modern classical music
1:15 "Cables cut the sound, the highs, the bottom-end, the mids." .. This is BS. Cables act as simple low-pass filters, so they attenuate high frequencies. Of course +/- 0.1 dB at 20 kHz will be completely inaudible, but that doesn't prevent snakeoil salesmen from selling you pieces of wire for a small fortune ... without providing the electrical specifications that would let the customer determine if the cable is actually better.
1:41 "I make different cables for different styles of music... there is no perfect cable for each kind of music.. This is my philosophy." ... I'm sorry, but this is a BS philosophy, as it makes no sense.
Cables are supposed to be acoustically transparent, not have a "sound" on their own. If your cable produces a particular sound then you have a (fixed) effects device in your hands and not a good cable.
Now if your philosophy is selling expensive fixed FX devices in the form of cables then this is fine.
4:42 "Cables are like an instrument." No, they really aren't. This is even more wrong than the previous point, as instruments produce sounds. But cables are passive pieces of wires whose electrical job is to transport voltage or power over a certain distance with minimal electrical losses.
Beautiful 🙏🙏🙏
Hi Virgil, I am assuming these cables cost way more than my Mogamis. I will probably order one.
Virgil, are you coming to Germany?
Resonance
Effet placebo , pour vous en convaincre faire un test à l'aveugle .
If David is just playing with the conductor/soder material and plug type all he changes between cables is resistance, quite dubious to claim differences in quality of audio on that basis. At most more expensive cables will isolate from noise better and last longer. Any claims about warmer tone in a digital cable are entirely bogus. Let "audiophiles" spend their money on whatever they want but this seems like misleading advertising?