You did a very nice presentation. I watched your video before installing the same kit on my son’s ZJ. 2 things . To line up the track arm I put the tires solid on the ground and used the steering right and left to alight the tracking arm , This made it easy. 2nd thing I’m fairly sure you have your lower tracking arms upside down. It doesn’t really mater cause the center to center is the same no mater which way you put them on but at full suspension travel, the tubing will bottom out on the box where it’s mounted to on the axle end. I looked at all the pictures on the web and they all mounted like I did. Not to be a troll, I liked your presentation and subscribed.
Thanks so much! Yeah they were absolutely upside down. The directions we got with our kit were wrong, but we figured it out eventually. At the end of the video they’re on correctly (I think, at the very least they are now!) but the majority of the filming showed them in incorrectly as you noted. Thanks so much for the great comment!
Hello, nice Job! My expirience with the Trackbar: if you roll the jeep on a flat surface with the trackbar still disconnected the body and axle will center by themselves. You will need only 2-3 meters forward and backwards. After this you will have the exact dimension for the lenght. Greatings from Germany
Great idea! Always looking for better ways to center the axle for the track bar so thank you. And shout out to our viewers in Germany! Thanks for commenting!
@@martinkuhne452 takes a helper. With the tires on the ground and the track bar disconnected, the pitman arm will easily shift the axle side to side. Very low effort and doesn’t need tied off to something.
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Haha love it!! What performance mods did you do to your 318? We're looking to do some on this rig and would love the feedback. Thanks so much for the awesome comment!
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That's great! We tend to be working on the weekends or late at night, which was the case on this one. But yeah, we should have just called them when we were having difficulties. But the lift has been on the Jeep for quite a while now and we love it. We've added adjustable rear control arms from IRO and the Jeep is really dialed in. Thanks so much for the comment and we'll for sure reach out to them in the future!
@@MotorsandMischief can you get away with zero drilling by buying an adjustable track bar? Can you make a list of the parts you used and the tires in inches? How does it drive on the highway and turn on the city streets? I don't need a lift but why not if everything else is the same, but I don't want to drill anything...
The bolts for the new, heavier duty track bar are themselves heavier duty and the holes in the Jeep need to be expanded to fit the larger bolts. If you don't REALLY want a lift, we suggest not lifting it, or at least don't go so high. 3.5 inches is a LOT and this size lift causes a lot of issues that have to be sorted out. We eventually replaced the stock track bar mount with a heavy duty one from Ironman Offroad, replaced the original steering gear box, replaced all the ball joints, end links, and went through 3 sway bar mount sets before we finally found one that works. We also added adjustable Iron Rock Offroad rear control arms and an adjustable rear track bar. NOW the Jeep is fully dialed in and drives like a dream but it was a giant pain in the neck getting it there. If we were going to do it again, we'd replace every suspension and steering component as part of the lift, and then it would drive perfect right out of the gate. The tires are BFG's and are about 32". Nothing rubs or hits with the 3.5" lift.
Love this! What a great look, that's some nice work. Good choice on the tires too, I even like the white letters out on this one lol. How is this parts company to work with? Im wondering if they also make a rear adjustable control arms and do you recommend them?
They do! They make an adjustable rear control arm set that's on our list of items to get. The company is fairly responsive. Some minor issues with their phone system letting you hold after hours when no one is going to answer and not all of the parts online are linked to their directions, but nice guys and we will for sure buy again!
It gets daily driven for school and work and its awesome. Ride is excellent, truck isn't having any issues with the bigger tires and overall we're really pleased with the result. 10/10 would do it again, just would go with the adjustable front and rear track bars from the start, and we do plan to add adjustable rear control arms soon. Thanks for commenting!
Great build! Just installed the same kit on my 96 4.0. Question: with the larger tires. Are you running into any rubbing on the tie rods or extended sway bar links? Thanks
Nice, that's awesome! Yes, we had issues with the sway bar links that drove us crazy. We finally put 1.25" spacers on the wheels, which 1) solved the rubbing problem, 2) stanced the truck and made it a LOT better looking and 3) made a noticeable difference in handling (its more stable now whereas immediately after the lift it was a little unsettled). We know spacers can be controversial but we've run them on lots of our rigs for 10-15 years in some cases and never had any issues. We always upgrade the wheel studs to longer ones, and then use red locktite to install the spacers on the wheel studs. We've never lost a wheel and we've never seen a significant increase in wheel bearing wear (keeping in mind we four wheel all our rigs so they usually need bearings sooner than a typical SUV but no sooner on our rigs with spacers than without). Hope that helps! Thanks for the question!
We went with the Teraflex 1.25 (www.quadratec.com/products/92807_202.htm) from Quadratec but it looks like they are sold out at the moment. Spidertrax makes a wheel spacer that has good reviews but we don't personally have experience with those. But really any good quality hubcentric spacer from a reputable manufacturer should be fine. For the studs, we can't remember if we went with 3/4" or 1" longer, but we think it was 1" amzn.to/3D9sOPB Good luck to you and let us know how it goes!
Thanks! Its from the same manufacturer, Iron Rock Off Road, and they can be added as stand-alone adjustable rear control arms. Since this video we've actually added them to this Jeep. They're great. We still have the rear axle tucked a tad too far forward because to get it back where we want it with the adjustable arms, we're going to need to lengthen the driveshaft, and we're trying to get one of the other projects finished so we have a driver while the ZJ is down for a few days getting that new rear shaft. Thanks for commenting!
Man we are so sorry we missed your comment somehow! We're usually really good about replying to everyone. We just went out and measured it and the bottom of the wheel well is currently sitting at 38" with the lift and approximately 32" BFGs. Thanks so much for the question!
Actually the stock front coils get moved to the back to be the rear lifted coils, so you don’t have to buy any additional coils. We did the drop bracket for the rear track bar and of we were doing it over again we’d have gone with the adjustable rear track bar, but other than that it all worked great. Thanks for the question!
Death wobble isn't a function of how high a lift is or how big the tires are. A properly setup suspension will never have any wobble, death or otherwise. This rig has new ball joints and a heavy-duty track bar and reinforced track bar mount. In our experience, those are the first two places to look when you have true death wobble (and to be clear, seems about 80% of people use the term "death wobble" when they mean regular wobble). So because our suspension and axle components are are properly setup, we have no wobble issues with this Jeep, and it can happily do 80 mph on I-70 all day long without issue. Thanks for the question!
They are 265-75/16s. We had to trim the bumper, and we did push the front axle forward with the adjustable control arms because, for some reason, we had plenty of length in our front drive shaft. We had it rebuilt for a vibration issue that turned out to be something else. Ideally we will move the rear axle back an inch or so from where it sits right now but we need to lengthen the rear driveshaft to accomplish that. So to answer your question we get no rubbing with the new bumper and the axle moved forward about 1/2”. Thanks for the question!
It came like this believe it or not, and as far as we can tell its original paint. It was owned by a couple of individuals, then bought by a construction company and was a fleet vehicle. We talked to them and they said it was on a standard routine maintenance program with the all of their trucks and it got washed and waxed every Friday because it was used for sales and had to look good. It lived most of its life in Texas and there's no rust on it at all. We were super lucky to find it. Thanks for the question!
You did a very nice presentation. I watched your video before installing the same kit on my son’s ZJ. 2 things . To line up the track arm I put the tires solid on the ground and used the steering right and left to alight the tracking arm , This made it easy. 2nd thing I’m fairly sure you have your lower tracking arms upside down. It doesn’t really mater cause the center to center is the same no mater which way you put them on but at full suspension travel, the tubing will bottom out on the box where it’s mounted to on the axle end. I looked at all the pictures on the web and they all mounted like I did. Not to be a troll, I liked your presentation and subscribed.
Thanks so much! Yeah they were absolutely upside down. The directions we got with our kit were wrong, but we figured it out eventually. At the end of the video they’re on correctly (I think, at the very least they are now!) but the majority of the filming showed them in incorrectly as you noted. Thanks so much for the great comment!
Hello, nice Job! My expirience with the Trackbar: if you roll the jeep on a flat surface with the trackbar still disconnected the body and axle will center by themselves. You will need only 2-3 meters forward and backwards. After this you will have the exact dimension for the lenght. Greatings from Germany
Great idea! Always looking for better ways to center the axle for the track bar so thank you. And shout out to our viewers in Germany! Thanks for commenting!
Also, you can use the steering wheel to move it side to side. You can move the rig back and forth to line up control arm bolts as well.
@@67NickM I was talking about the trackbar bolts...and if you move with the steering, how will you find out that the axle is in the center?
@@martinkuhne452 takes a helper.
With the tires on the ground and the track bar disconnected, the pitman arm will easily shift the axle side to side.
Very low effort and doesn’t need tied off to something.
That is a clean zj!
Thank you! We're working on some more videos with it that we'll be uploading soon!
Love the content!! Subbed and liked!!👍🏽
Thanks for the sub!
Yeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeah, ZJ Fam, Saludos from Cali I have a 1997 ZJ Limited 4x4 318 magnum V8, 4.5 inch lift ironrock, performance mods to engine, stay up, ZJ FO LIFE 😎👊🙏
Haha love it!! What performance mods did you do to your 318? We're looking to do some on this rig and would love the feedback. Thanks so much for the awesome comment!
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ZJ FAM FOR LIFE, did performance air intake K&N, Holley throttle body intake, Hugh's edelbrock F1 airgap aluminum intake manifold, performance spark plugs, wires, coil, etc, performance engine motor mounts, performance mopar engine sensors throttle body sensor etc, yeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeah, Stay up mi familia 😎👊🙏
When you have questions, just call them (IRO). They are great with their help, & walk through.
That's great! We tend to be working on the weekends or late at night, which was the case on this one. But yeah, we should have just called them when we were having difficulties. But the lift has been on the Jeep for quite a while now and we love it. We've added adjustable rear control arms from IRO and the Jeep is really dialed in. Thanks so much for the comment and we'll for sure reach out to them in the future!
@@MotorsandMischief can you get away with zero drilling by buying an adjustable track bar? Can you make a list of the parts you used and the tires in inches? How does it drive on the highway and turn on the city streets? I don't need a lift but why not if everything else is the same, but I don't want to drill anything...
The bolts for the new, heavier duty track bar are themselves heavier duty and the holes in the Jeep need to be expanded to fit the larger bolts. If you don't REALLY want a lift, we suggest not lifting it, or at least don't go so high. 3.5 inches is a LOT and this size lift causes a lot of issues that have to be sorted out. We eventually replaced the stock track bar mount with a heavy duty one from Ironman Offroad, replaced the original steering gear box, replaced all the ball joints, end links, and went through 3 sway bar mount sets before we finally found one that works. We also added adjustable Iron Rock Offroad rear control arms and an adjustable rear track bar. NOW the Jeep is fully dialed in and drives like a dream but it was a giant pain in the neck getting it there. If we were going to do it again, we'd replace every suspension and steering component as part of the lift, and then it would drive perfect right out of the gate. The tires are BFG's and are about 32". Nothing rubs or hits with the 3.5" lift.
Love this! What a great look, that's some nice work. Good choice on the tires too, I even like the white letters out on this one lol. How is this parts company to work with? Im wondering if they also make a rear adjustable control arms and do you recommend them?
They do! They make an adjustable rear control arm set that's on our list of items to get. The company is fairly responsive. Some minor issues with their phone system letting you hold after hours when no one is going to answer and not all of the parts online are linked to their directions, but nice guys and we will for sure buy again!
Love your ZJ mate, its such a sweet rig. The lift and tire size are perfect, how is it as a daily?
It gets daily driven for school and work and its awesome. Ride is excellent, truck isn't having any issues with the bigger tires and overall we're really pleased with the result. 10/10 would do it again, just would go with the adjustable front and rear track bars from the start, and we do plan to add adjustable rear control arms soon. Thanks for commenting!
Great build! Just installed the same kit on my 96 4.0.
Question: with the larger tires. Are you running into any rubbing on the tie rods or extended sway bar links? Thanks
Nice, that's awesome! Yes, we had issues with the sway bar links that drove us crazy. We finally put 1.25" spacers on the wheels, which 1) solved the rubbing problem, 2) stanced the truck and made it a LOT better looking and 3) made a noticeable difference in handling (its more stable now whereas immediately after the lift it was a little unsettled). We know spacers can be controversial but we've run them on lots of our rigs for 10-15 years in some cases and never had any issues. We always upgrade the wheel studs to longer ones, and then use red locktite to install the spacers on the wheel studs. We've never lost a wheel and we've never seen a significant increase in wheel bearing wear (keeping in mind we four wheel all our rigs so they usually need bearings sooner than a typical SUV but no sooner on our rigs with spacers than without). Hope that helps! Thanks for the question!
@@MotorsandMischief thank you for the quick response. What brand did you use for the spacers and studs? Possibly a link for both?
We went with the Teraflex 1.25 (www.quadratec.com/products/92807_202.htm) from Quadratec but it looks like they are sold out at the moment. Spidertrax makes a wheel spacer that has good reviews but we don't personally have experience with those. But really any good quality hubcentric spacer from a reputable manufacturer should be fine. For the studs, we can't remember if we went with 3/4" or 1" longer, but we think it was 1" amzn.to/3D9sOPB Good luck to you and let us know how it goes!
Very nice zj
Thank you so much! We've got some more videos on this build coming soon. Thanks for the comment!
How much was everything
what’s the kit to move the rear tires back? love the jeep
Thanks! Its from the same manufacturer, Iron Rock Off Road, and they can be added as stand-alone adjustable rear control arms. Since this video we've actually added them to this Jeep. They're great. We still have the rear axle tucked a tad too far forward because to get it back where we want it with the adjustable arms, we're going to need to lengthen the driveshaft, and we're trying to get one of the other projects finished so we have a driver while the ZJ is down for a few days getting that new rear shaft. Thanks for commenting!
Whats the measurements from your wheel well to the ground? Just curious 🤔 killer zj!
Thats a great question Chicago RC, I'd also like to see that number
Man we are so sorry we missed your comment somehow! We're usually really good about replying to everyone. We just went out and measured it and the bottom of the wheel well is currently sitting at 38" with the lift and approximately 32" BFGs. Thanks so much for the question!
So you had to buy separate spring coils for the rear I see the kit only came with 2 for the front?
Actually the stock front coils get moved to the back to be the rear lifted coils, so you don’t have to buy any additional coils. We did the drop bracket for the rear track bar and of we were doing it over again we’d have gone with the adjustable rear track bar, but other than that it all worked great. Thanks for the question!
Did you get the death wobble after lifting?
Death wobble isn't a function of how high a lift is or how big the tires are. A properly setup suspension will never have any wobble, death or otherwise. This rig has new ball joints and a heavy-duty track bar and reinforced track bar mount. In our experience, those are the first two places to look when you have true death wobble (and to be clear, seems about 80% of people use the term "death wobble" when they mean regular wobble). So because our suspension and axle components are are properly setup, we have no wobble issues with this Jeep, and it can happily do 80 mph on I-70 all day long without issue. Thanks for the question!
i have iron rock 3.5 long arm kit. may i ask what are the size you chose? im trying to get some good tires without having to cut the fenders.
They are 265-75/16s. We had to trim the bumper, and we did push the front axle forward with the adjustable control arms because, for some reason, we had plenty of length in our front drive shaft. We had it rebuilt for a vibration issue that turned out to be something else. Ideally we will move the rear axle back an inch or so from where it sits right now but we need to lengthen the rear driveshaft to accomplish that. So to answer your question we get no rubbing with the new bumper and the axle moved forward about 1/2”. Thanks for the question!
@@MotorsandMischief thanks for the reply.
Did you paint it?
It came like this believe it or not, and as far as we can tell its original paint. It was owned by a couple of individuals, then bought by a construction company and was a fleet vehicle. We talked to them and they said it was on a standard routine maintenance program with the all of their trucks and it got washed and waxed every Friday because it was used for sales and had to look good. It lived most of its life in Texas and there's no rust on it at all. We were super lucky to find it. Thanks for the question!