It should be noted that Yamcha was actually mistaken for goku by 19 and 20 based on their scans. He was strong enough to match what their calculations were for Goku's potential growth. Thats not nothing to sneeze at.
You overrated Yamcha, the androids thought it was Goku because Yamcha’s power level is above 5 which is above average human power level and that’s very uncommon on Earth. The androids immediately realized that it’s just Yamcha
@@CeeDoubleU They aren't completely wrong, 19 and 20 had some major errors in their calculations. They stopped tracking Goku's progress after the Saiyan saga so they didn't know about all his gravity training, the stuff on Namek, or the 3 years of training the put in to battle said androids. The last real time they had any measure on Goku would have put his base power at around 8,000. I'm sure they took into account he would have trained and gotten stronger but I doubt they would have calculated it to be in the literal millions area, the last official Goku power we got was 3 million against Frieza and I'm assuming Yamcha would have easily been around that by the time of the androids
I think to some people who either only watched Z and onward, or people who are too clouded by modern memes, they don't realize Yamcha's death at the time was legitimately a shocking and dramatic moment. Also I think too many people remember the budokai and abridged version and forget Yamcha kamehamehae'd the Saibamen into the ground before it went the suicide route.
We just got a call from what it is. They’re basically DBZ haters. anybody whom actually read the manga or watched the anime entirely. Will fall in love with the story. Because we love the fights but the story is what drew us in.
@@isildurs-shack Wrong. Blame Toriyama's editors. They made him push Saiyans and phase out humans to sell more merch. Toriyama literally wanted to end the series after the Namek saga but they made him keep going so they could make more money.
It showed that the whole training they did was useless... c'mon, they should have been able to kill Nappa....a nobody..... I grew up with these character. Imagine You, Z fans, watching cabba come up and just killing every character you liked...... how'd you feel? No, not Beerus, Cabba, or someone even less important.....
Yamcha fought the saibaman because Krillin had already died against Tambourine (Yamcha survived with 1 leg injured). He said he would go first, because if Krillin died, then he couldn't be brought back a second time. I will never forget that heroic line. Most people don't acknowledge this, and it should be passed to those "dragon ball z only" guys!
This was TRULY admiral. Yamcha was the best. Probably my second favorite nest to Tenshinhan. Don't get me wrong...Goku is a bad ass too. Goku is probably my third.
@@esaychayareohen I am almost the same. For me Tien is number 1, because he never quit trainning and is always there no matter the odds. Yamcha is 2nd and Goku is 3rd.
@@iseeopenings3921 Yamcha has NEVER been unfaithful to Bulma onscreen, but Bulma HAS gotten jealous and angry and distant from Yamcha onscreen in Dragon Ball, and they got back together.
Imagine if we got Yamcha in the tournament of power. We could have had Goku, Krillin, and Yamcha back to back, in their turtle hermit gi, fighting off an entire team with Roshi sitting with Whis and Beerus proudly watching his former pupils.
Bro just the thought of the three of them working together against someone in the tournament of power as Roshi watches them with a proud look on his face is already making me a little teary eyed.
It's wild that Master Roshi got into the tournament of power but Yamcha didn't. At this point, Yamcha should be far stronger than Roshi. Roshi struggled against kid Goku and didn't stand a chance against King Picollo. And we never see Roshi ever training in his old age, so at most we can presume that he largely retains the same skill and power levels throughout the series, if not downright declined with age and not training. Yamcha on the other hand consistently trained, he gave Tien a difficult time, and after that trained with Korin, trained with Popo and Kami, and continued to train for many years during DBZ. He was likely at his peak during the Android saga, and by that point I hope we can all agree that any of the Z fighters dwarfed Master Roshi's in terms of power, fighting skills, and Ki control. Remember that it took Roshi 50 years to develop the Kame Hame Ha, the only Ki blast that he can use, yet the others can use a plethora of Ki attacks. I don't know, I get that Roshi is a beloved character, but at this point he shouldn't be able to compete with the best fighters in the multiverse. He should act more like a wise mentor rather than a fighter. His best years are behind him, and even then he was never all that strong. At most we can probably say he was around Tao Pai Pai's level, or maybe around Tien's level from when he was first introduced back in DB.
I've said it before, Yamcha is one of my favorites. Not just for his strength, but the little things nobody talks about when compared to the others. He can cook. He is the 3rd strongest pureblood human on the planet. He had Bulma in her prime. He GOT A JOB! Not just any job. He became an athlete! So he makes insane amounts of money all his own, unlike Goku and Vegeta. Outclassed or not, he still shows up for the fight. Yamcha. Fuck yeah.
Ignoring all of the filler (fighting Recoome etc.) so canon paladins won't kill me, Yamcha is still at least as powerful as the strongest low-class Saiyan warriors, which is pretty impressive considering Saiyans were a feared warrior race with few equals and a far-reaching reputation. I can't seem to find any reliable non-filler indication of exactly how strong he ever became, but it stands to reason he got at least somewhat stronger than he was vs the Saibamen over the years even with his retirement from the martial arts world. It's probably reasonable to put him at or near "Elite Saiyan" level at his peak. Perhaps he's well beyond that and I just can't find the tidbit of canon data to back that up. If you go by filler the dude is stronger than a member of the Ginyu force at least, and far far stronger than that at best. Stronger than Recoome is an absurd level of strength that, pre-Super Saiyan era, would have put him on the short list of strongest beings in the universe. At any rate the man is a beast and would wipe the floor with 99% of superheroes and other martial characters in the world of fiction.
While Goku and Vegeta are on Beerus planet, Yamcha reveals that he learned the Spirit Bomb and defeats the villian by manipulating it the way he did with his own Spirit Ball technique.
@@True2ChainzLilWayne That was the fan manga that caught Toryable fan manga called my life as yamcha that Akira Toriyama found intresting that he got to be his appertance.
Only in Dragonball can you be top 3 strongest human, a professional athlete who amassed a fortune (not inherited) and die protecting humanity and still be classified a loser.
As of Super, Yamcha’s the only character with a morally valid claim for a wish for Immortality on the dragon balls. He’s found a cute alien babe, but she ages very slowly and only wants to marry in 100 years. That’s a no brainer imo.
@@dane1382: They’re talking about Heroes, where Yamcha meets an alien female named Vidro, whom he saved from Hit (anime) or Meta Cooler (manga) and she became smitten with him to the point of marriage. Shortly after Demigra is destroyed, Vidro tells Yamcha that their wedding will be in 1200 years (The Glass Tribe’s age of consent). So it’s ultimately impractical.
Yamcha deserves WAY more respect. WOLF FANG FIST just is a neat move, and deserves to grow as a character, if anything make yamcha WISH for a power boost, make him sick of not being able to help his friends and he wants to once again defend earth and stop hiding from what he COULD be
Maybe instead of wishing for a power boost he wishes his potential to be unlocked and that what has been holding him back is removed. Allowing him to gain the power boost in an earned and respectful way.
I once calculated Yamcha's power, this guy gets the power to destroy planets like Jupiter AS EARLY AS THE SAIYAN SAGA. JUPITER. U KNOW HOW BIG JUPITER IS? THE RED SPOT ALONE IS LIKE 2 EARTH'S WIDE.
@@iseeopenings3921master roshi full power can vaporize the moon and scans of him being able to power up a star in og db. Yamcha is way above that roshi during saiyan saga.
Watching OG after only being familiar with Z was so cool seeing “random background characters” have full fleshed out stories. Watching it from og to z it’s heart breaking seeing the former top guys (tien, yamacha, yajirobe, korin, kami) get completely tossed to the side
I agree. As someone who watched this since the og , I love Yamcha, Tien and Lunch, I'm really sad when they just becime background characters as the story progressed further. And Toriyama forgot Lunch too.
Yajirobe was never a top guy though. He was a relatively tough guy who lived in the forest and survived by hunting and fishing. He gets his ass kicked by one of King Piccolo's henchmen before Goku has to intervene. But from then on, he just sticks around Korin so that he can eat lots of Senzu beans so that he never has to go hungry again.
OG DB is absolutely great and deserves more credit. Had tons of fun with it in my childhood both reading the manga (which was very popular in Brazil) and watching the anime (which as also extremely popular in Brazil)
That's something that really irks me to be honest. I started with the OG anime and only later watched Z. Yamcha was one of my favorites by the end. So were Krillin and Tien. Ok, Krillin still has his moments but after the Freeza saga, Goku and Vegeta basically became the main characters with Gohan having his moments here and there. Even Piccolo was irrelevant for a while there. All the world building, all that character development flushed down the toilet.
1. He survived 300x gravity, that alone is BADASS; 2. If Master Roshi can flex on Jiren - so can Yamcha; 3. Maybe have Yamcha become the next God of Earth?
@@shtreberka3642 true true, but I feel like yamcha wouldn't want to be the next kami yk, I think if any humans would it would be someone like roshi or Tien or possibly krillin but only to keep him relevant
Excatly. I like your point on master roshi flexing on jiren....this means yamcha can show some skills too and look good. i swear the only way for humans to quickly level up is if they get Ui. we know Ui isnt a saiyan only move and anyone can do it so why not?
I honestly would prefer a rebeoot where the power gaps aren't anywhere near as wide, the cell and freeza sagas overlap massively; and it is gohan, not Goku, that becomes the first super saiyan against freeza, in place of him doing it vs cell And there's only ever one super saiyan, Gohan. That's it. no others. And he goes super saiyan when goku dies at the hands of freeza, who is invading earth to use the dragon balls. Also, on top of all that, the DB's are nerfed into the ground and can't resurrect people This setting would raise the stakes on each individual fight, would make it so that while the likes of Tien and Yamcha would still get slammed by nappa and vegeta, they would at least stand a chance. Also the ONLY characters powerful enough to destroy planets would be Perfect Cell (who would, instead of time travelling, simply have been designed many years earlier than he was in the original DBZ), SSJ Gohan, Freeza, and Beerus. That's it. Nobody else. Buu could be retconned completely, his arc was stupid anyway. But yeah, this would mean that human characters, along with the likes of the Ginyu force and lesser androids, would never become completely irrelevant.
@@MyopicPowerhouse You lost me at the Goku dying to Frieza nonsense. I can get Gohan being the only SS but why would Gohan be worried about his Dad dying when he has already died and came back before, his Dad is also amongst the strongest beings in the known universe, and they are currently in possesion of the Dragon Balls?
@@DragoonCenten Nah you didn't read it Goku would not have died before, this would be his only death The Dragonballs would also be nerfed, and unable to resurrect people - that power just takes away the impact of any deaths of characters. If we're going to criticise Disney for "fake killing" characters so much (which we all do) then why do we do the same thing with dragonballs? Consequences for failure give meaning to the triumphs. This hypothetical that i'm suggesting is a 100% reboot - completely new story, completely new everything. Total restart.
Also, in addition to what i just said - I lost you at Gohan reacting to his dads death... but Akira Toriyama did *not* lose you at Gohan reacting to Android !@#$ing 16 dying? He didn't even know who the !@#$ Android 16 was. He just met him!@@DragoonCenten
@@MyopicPowerhouse tbh even with all that characters like yamcha still sadly get outclassed by the TOP, saiyans are just busted even without super saiyan lol
I'll always love Yamcha for a variety of reasons, but one of the best is that he never, EVER hesitates to jump in to fight the good fight. He is ALWAYS ready to fight for his friends and for what's right. He's there when the team needs him, when the world needs him, and he's a damn good fighter in his own right. It's not his fault that he's up against literal GODS in his universe :(
True. I'm glad he low-balled Yamaha here. Halibu was at least as strong as Scholar said but let's remember that Halibu was basically in the league of Pikkon. Pikkon was strong enough to one shot Perfect Cell in the Buu saga. I'm not saying that Yamcha is near perfect cell level but if we compare Pikkon's growth to the theoretical growth of Halibu, Yamcha could have reasonably gotten MUCH stronger than the Goku that fought with Pikkon. After all, Halibu is the kind of guy to train 24/7 just like Pikkon. You can say that Pikkon grew much faster because of training with Goku but there is no way Halibu wouldn't have been grown a decent amount in all that time.
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 I mean.....You're talking about dragon ball here....idk if you should say that Akira is caring about the Buu saga story quality xD
What disappoints me is the focus on the Saiyans only because God Ki could've been such a good vehicle to return the humans to the fold. Anyone can use it no matter the species and they could've been a true team in the ToP with them all using God Ki and ascending.
Very true the humans, the other universe fighters, the other world fighters not to mention the other planets in each universe being explored would be nice to see.
ah yes, because everyone applauded the power-up fire sale of the Buu saga. Repeating it on a stupidly large scale would surely bring critical acclaim ....not.
@@DragoonCenten I'll copy-pasta because it's easier, but this is what I said in reply to another similar comment: "I honestly would prefer a rebeoot where the power gaps aren't anywhere near as wide, the cell and freeza sagas overlap massively; and it is gohan, not Goku, that becomes the first super saiyan against freeza, in place of him doing it vs cell And there's only ever one super saiyan, Gohan. That's it. no others. And he goes super saiyan when goku dies at the hands of freeza, who is invading earth to use the dragon balls. Also, on top of all that, the DB's are nerfed into the ground and can't resurrect people This setting would raise the stakes on each individual fight, would make it so that while the likes of Tien and Yamcha would still get slammed by nappa and vegeta, they would at least stand a chance. Also the ONLY characters powerful enough to destroy planets would be Perfect Cell (who would, instead of time travelling, simply have been designed many years earlier than he was in the original DBZ), SSJ Gohan, Freeza, and Beerus. That's it. Nobody else. Buu could be retconned completely, his arc was stupid anyway. But yeah, this would mean that human characters, along with the likes of the Ginyu force and lesser androids, would never become completely irrelevant." No, I do not want it to be the "Goku and Vegeta show" forever, that is not my take, and your take is an L take for misinterpreting my take haha
People forgot how high the stakes were back then. Remember, Yamcha insisted on taking over Krillin’s place in fighting the next Saibamen, acting on a bad hunch (and he was right). His actions there allowed for Krillin to survive this battle against the 2 Saiyans.
@SaiyanScholar I'm glad you are the one only UA-camr still believed & make content of the goated Yamcha anyway we us the true Yamcha fans wants to make Yamcha great again let's make it happen.
As someone grew up watching og db , Yamcha is one of my favourite characters. I agree with all that being said in this video. I still remember his legendary scene was such a shocking to younger me that time. It is frustrating that most of other people only remember aand making fun of that scene rather than see who is Yamcha other than that scene.
Yamcha shows us if things don’t go your way you should still persevere and make those decisions in life because they could pay off in the end. He’s just like us in real life
Your respect to the human fighters is what makes me coming back to your videos. I love them and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR TENSHINHAN "role model" videos. Need those as t shirts man...
When I was a kid, Yamcha is among my favorite characters. I remember reading an Isekai manga about how the main char who is a DB fan, got reincarnated as Yamcha, and showed how he could be 'strong' and save the world with his limited potential as a human Edit: Okay you talked about that manga
One thing I want to point out is that on the Sayan fight ABSOLUTELY all of the Z fighters would have died with that surprise attack from the sabaiman except for piccolo because of his regeneration. And let's be honest Krilin was going to die first if Yamcha wasn't such good friend and confident enough he could win, something that technically he did before that self destruct move.
We need more wholesome character redemptions like this. One example can be that Goku is a good dad or even about Hercule, who is also seen as a joke character, but he legit won the world martial arts tournament in the absence of the Z fighters.
I get why many characters are overshadowed by Goku's influence but I know that they deserve better, Yamcha especially. He is a great human fighter just like Tien & Krillin & it hurts to still know that they get more love than him. . It's the fanbase that "bases" who should be in the spotlight & not too much by the creators themselves, which is why I'll never be a fan of Dragonball regardless how popular it is...
@@DragoonCenten I too see that to a certain extent, I wouldn't say it outright deserved it though since people still like SSJ4 so much, myself included
Yamcha was never on the level of Tien nor is as close to Goku as Krillin. Thats why they were showcased more in super. Yamcha in Dragonball had a little more shine but he wasn’t great
@@dominiquerobinson8888 Or maybe it's because some of you believe he doesn't deserve it? He'll never get any screentime if we keep bullying him into obscenity, and I know that many would still be ok with that by the next decade over...
Yamcha's two only personal accomplishmentd throughout the entire series. Was getting over his fear of girls. Just to end up alone in any romantic relationship anyway. And bringing the first introduction of any kind of a spirit bomb into the show. That's about all the writing has ever giving him.
It's sad, he was my favorite character in DB and early Z. I remember when he came back with the face scars before the tournament. I was freaking excited! I hope to see more of him in the future.
I was a person that watched DBZ before Dragon Ball. I remember I was willing to watch the whole series of DB just for the hell of it, and I actually learned to appreciate Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, Chiaotzu, and every other earthling in the show, because of what impact they had back then. I also enjoyed the fact that Dragon Ball was more martial arts orientated. I am currently watching DBGT and I must admit it isn't as bad as everyone make it seems. Great Video!
I wish he got more love. I had thought before about ways to buff him up in the story and I realized how cool it would’ve been if he’d gotten the spirit bomb when training on King Kai’s world with the added ability to control it like his spirit ball. It’s a small idea but I wish something like that would’ve been done.
Yamcha is one of those characters that's great on paper, but not that great in practice. He may have potential, and be powerful, but if he never existed I wouldn't care.
Yamcha was always one of my favorite characters in OG Dragon Ball. DBZ ruined him, but in the original, he was nothing short of badass. Also, his Wolf Fang Fist technique looked cool as hell. Of course, that was back when DB fights were about martial arts, and not just about flashy lights and incomprehensible numbers.
The problem with characters like Yamcha in the newest Dragon Ball is that there is no room for anyone besides the strongest...Theres no scenes of clandestine operations, gathering information on the enemy...finding their secret hideout, find the cure for the heart virus, hide the dragon balls etc etc....This is perfect stuff for the weaker characters like Krillin and Yamcha to carry out and show off their skills...But the new Dragon Ball is basically just about power and who has it, who has the most, who can transform...There's no real nuanced character growth or portrayal...
The problem with Yamcha is that he was Worf-effected and ultimately reduced to just that. Starting with the original World Martial Arts Tournament, Toriyama used him to show how strong Goku's final opponent would be, first Jackie Chun, then Tien. In the third tournament, he may not have fought Junior, but he was still used to show how powerful Kami was since no one had ever seen Kami fight, and thereby demonstrate how powerful Kami and Picollo and by extension Goku were compared to everyone else. His death at the hands of the Saibaman continued that trend, which culminated in his being impaled by Dr. Gero to demonstrate how dangerous the androids were. After Gero, Vegeta became the new Worf-effect character given how close in power he was to Goku once they were both super saiyan. He has shared that role with Gohan since the start of the Buu Saga, with Resurrection F being the worst offender in treating Gohan exactly how Yamcha used to be treated. But both characters still have moments of triumph or greatness that Yamcha was never allowed to have in Z. With his role as the guy who gets beat to establish the strength of the new enemy taken by 2 saiyans, Toriyama had nothing else for Yamcha to do, and he was written out.
For me, it’s not that he is a joke but that he became a joke, stayed a joke and then faded into obscurity as a side character. He’s never been a coward, just weak
Thats my GOAT, i will never lose hope that the wolf someday will shine like it did in OG DB, he inspires me to stay optimistic and keep training despite how much rocks life throws me, im just him.
Yamacha isn't weak, in the broad perspective of the franchise. But he's ultimately a character who didn't make the cut and falls off. That's all that happened.
I liked the dragon ball super reference because Yamcha did actually accomplish something (he got on home). The fact that it resembled his greatest failure is what makes it hilarious, kind of like the guy who invented the ice cream cone.
Thanks for the support for my boi man. Loved him from the og dragonball and was hurt when they made him a joke in Z. Speaking of underraited i see you have a video on tien. I know where im going afyer this.
Yamcha was always my favorite character. i read once a fan made manga that has him learn the full wolf fang fist from the master who taught him the first part of it. and he takes on goku at the end, and goku acknowledges how far and strong he has gotten. all pre super stuff.
Are you talking about DBZ Elsewhere by Aremke/RMK, because I love that fan-manga as well. Unfortunately it hasn't had an update for 4 years, but it's still a good read.
It should be noted that Yamcha was actually mistaken for goku by 19 and 20 based on their scans. He was strong enough to match what their calculations were for Goku's potential growth. Thats not nothing to sneeze at.
You overrated Yamcha, the androids thought it was Goku because Yamcha’s power level is above 5 which is above average human power level and that’s very uncommon on Earth. The androids immediately realized that it’s just Yamcha
@@TK11223man just admit you're a hater and stop the bs
@@CeeDoubleU They aren't completely wrong, 19 and 20 had some major errors in their calculations. They stopped tracking Goku's progress after the Saiyan saga so they didn't know about all his gravity training, the stuff on Namek, or the 3 years of training the put in to battle said androids. The last real time they had any measure on Goku would have put his base power at around 8,000. I'm sure they took into account he would have trained and gotten stronger but I doubt they would have calculated it to be in the literal millions area, the last official Goku power we got was 3 million against Frieza and I'm assuming Yamcha would have easily been around that by the time of the androids
He provided a logical reason and facts, and you respond by calling him a hater and providing no actual argument. Great logic.
Yamcha deserves it anyway@@CeeDoubleU
I think to some people who either only watched Z and onward, or people who are too clouded by modern memes, they don't realize Yamcha's death at the time was legitimately a shocking and dramatic moment.
Also I think too many people remember the budokai and abridged version and forget Yamcha kamehamehae'd the Saibamen into the ground before it went the suicide route.
Legit, it killed itself in order to kill him. Piccolo was able to kill raditz despite being much weaker
@@gwilkes5325with the help of goku and special beam cannon..
We just got a call from what it is. They’re basically DBZ haters. anybody whom actually read the manga or watched the anime entirely. Will fall in love with the story. Because we love the fights but the story is what drew us in.
@@shtreberka3642 exactly, by concentrating all his power into one thing, he was able to kill him, the saibaman, did the same thing pretty much
@@gwilkes5325 The anime didn't help by extending the fight and making it seem more even. In the manga, IIRC, Yamcha shit all over that Saibaman.
The disrespect for Yamcha and humans in general irritates me to no end.
SAME
this is why I mained humans in dbxv2. They were fun to play in XV2.
Akira Toriyama is just not a very good writer.
@@isildurs-shack He writes shonen , after all.
@@isildurs-shack Wrong. Blame Toriyama's editors. They made him push Saiyans and phase out humans to sell more merch. Toriyama literally wanted to end the series after the Namek saga but they made him keep going so they could make more money.
Bulma: Is heavily saddened when Yamcha died in the Saiyan arc
Also Bulma: Breaks up with Yamcha and marries a man who was basically the reason he died
By that time Yamcha had cheated on Bulma and she had broken up with him.
@@El3ctr0Lun4 and it was stupid... but then again he didnt deserve to die
@@El3ctr0Lun4 the way Trunks phrased "She got tired of him playing the field" implies he did it multiple times too.
Lunch was so broken up about Tenshin that she basically disappeared from the story.
women ☕
His death was supposed to show the lack of value life held for the Saiyans. Yamcha done dirty
It showed that the whole training they did was useless... c'mon, they should have been able to kill Nappa....a nobody..... I grew up with these character. Imagine You, Z fans, watching cabba come up and just killing every character you liked...... how'd you feel? No, not Beerus, Cabba, or someone even less important.....
@@abhabh6896 Nappa is not a nobody. He's an elite Saiyan and easily in the top ten of Frieza's army at the time.
@@abhabh6896bro is onto nothing Nappa was a huge deal at the time
Nappa never was a nobody. Compared to Vegeta he was no match but almost no saiyan was.
@@abhabh6896 bro was yapping and now he’s all quiet 😂
I believe Yamcha's direspect(disrespect) stems from the first person to toss him aside. His creator, Toriyama.😅
Yamcha fought the saibaman because Krillin had already died against Tambourine (Yamcha survived with 1 leg injured).
He said he would go first, because if Krillin died, then he couldn't be brought back a second time. I will never forget that heroic line. Most people don't acknowledge this, and it should be passed to those "dragon ball z only" guys!
This was TRULY admiral. Yamcha was the best. Probably my second favorite nest to Tenshinhan.
Don't get me wrong...Goku is a bad ass too. Goku is probably my third.
@@esaychayareohen I am almost the same. For me Tien is number 1, because he never quit trainning and is always there no matter the odds.
Yamcha is 2nd and Goku is 3rd.
Yamcha is a godly threat anywhere but his own verse. He deserves more respect.
Yamcha never cheated, Bulma was projecting
Let’s make this a thing
@@iseeopenings3921 Play DBK. (Dragonball Kakorot)
He can do BETTER than Bulma, dawg.
@@iseeopenings3921 Yamcha has NEVER been unfaithful to Bulma onscreen, but Bulma HAS gotten jealous and angry and distant from Yamcha onscreen in Dragon Ball, and they got back together.
Hell, you can argue that Bulma emotionally cheated on him multiple times. Yamcha’s character wasn’t assassinated. It was annihilated
Imagine if we got Yamcha in the tournament of power. We could have had Goku, Krillin, and Yamcha back to back, in their turtle hermit gi, fighting off an entire team with Roshi sitting with Whis and Beerus proudly watching his former pupils.
Bro just the thought of the three of them working together against someone in the tournament of power as Roshi watches them with a proud look on his face is already making me a little teary eyed.
@@vampdeluxe77 In the NmcoBandai Verse He was in the Tournament of time Event could of got Married use shenron to make himself Immortal
Yea
It's wild that Master Roshi got into the tournament of power but Yamcha didn't. At this point, Yamcha should be far stronger than Roshi. Roshi struggled against kid Goku and didn't stand a chance against King Picollo. And we never see Roshi ever training in his old age, so at most we can presume that he largely retains the same skill and power levels throughout the series, if not downright declined with age and not training.
Yamcha on the other hand consistently trained, he gave Tien a difficult time, and after that trained with Korin, trained with Popo and Kami, and continued to train for many years during DBZ. He was likely at his peak during the Android saga, and by that point I hope we can all agree that any of the Z fighters dwarfed Master Roshi's in terms of power, fighting skills, and Ki control. Remember that it took Roshi 50 years to develop the Kame Hame Ha, the only Ki blast that he can use, yet the others can use a plethora of Ki attacks.
I don't know, I get that Roshi is a beloved character, but at this point he shouldn't be able to compete with the best fighters in the multiverse. He should act more like a wise mentor rather than a fighter. His best years are behind him, and even then he was never all that strong. At most we can probably say he was around Tao Pai Pai's level, or maybe around Tien's level from when he was first introduced back in DB.
You just made me picture all four of them hitting Jiren with Kamehamehas at the same time; it's a wonderful image.
I've said it before, Yamcha is one of my favorites. Not just for his strength, but the little things nobody talks about when compared to the others.
He can cook.
He is the 3rd strongest pureblood human on the planet.
He had Bulma in her prime.
He GOT A JOB! Not just any job. He became an athlete! So he makes insane amounts of money all his own, unlike Goku and Vegeta.
Outclassed or not, he still shows up for the fight.
Yamcha. Fuck yeah.
Ignoring all of the filler (fighting Recoome etc.) so canon paladins won't kill me, Yamcha is still at least as powerful as the strongest low-class Saiyan warriors, which is pretty impressive considering Saiyans were a feared warrior race with few equals and a far-reaching reputation. I can't seem to find any reliable non-filler indication of exactly how strong he ever became, but it stands to reason he got at least somewhat stronger than he was vs the Saibamen over the years even with his retirement from the martial arts world. It's probably reasonable to put him at or near "Elite Saiyan" level at his peak. Perhaps he's well beyond that and I just can't find the tidbit of canon data to back that up. If you go by filler the dude is stronger than a member of the Ginyu force at least, and far far stronger than that at best. Stronger than Recoome is an absurd level of strength that, pre-Super Saiyan era, would have put him on the short list of strongest beings in the universe. At any rate the man is a beast and would wipe the floor with 99% of superheroes and other martial characters in the world of fiction.
Yamcha should get his own special/ movie at this point.
Getting your girlfriend stolen by the guy who helped kill you making you Forever Alone: The Movie.
Toyable's Fan Manga becomes legit like Xicor (The Zamasu Saga) Black=Xicor Zamasu=Evil West Supreme Kai
While Goku and Vegeta are on Beerus planet, Yamcha reveals that he learned the Spirit Bomb and defeats the villian by manipulating it the way he did with his own Spirit Ball technique.
Didn’t he get a special where someone swapped bodies with Yamcha and trained to make sure all the mistakes Yamcha made didn’t happen?
@@True2ChainzLilWayne That was the fan manga that caught Toryable fan manga called my life as yamcha that Akira Toriyama found intresting that he got to be his appertance.
Only in Dragonball can you be top 3 strongest human, a professional athlete who amassed a fortune (not inherited) and die protecting humanity and still be classified a loser.
As of Super, Yamcha’s the only character with a morally valid claim for a wish for Immortality on the dragon balls. He’s found a cute alien babe, but she ages very slowly and only wants to marry in 100 years. That’s a no brainer imo.
wait when is this?
@@dane1382: They’re talking about Heroes, where Yamcha meets an alien female named Vidro, whom he saved from Hit (anime) or Meta Cooler (manga) and she became smitten with him to the point of marriage.
Shortly after Demigra is destroyed, Vidro tells Yamcha that their wedding will be in 1200 years (The Glass Tribe’s age of consent). So it’s ultimately impractical.
Yamcha deserves WAY more respect. WOLF FANG FIST just is a neat move, and deserves to grow as a character, if anything make yamcha WISH for a power boost, make him sick of not being able to help his friends and he wants to once again defend earth and stop hiding from what he COULD be
Maybe instead of wishing for a power boost he wishes his potential to be unlocked and that what has been holding him back is removed. Allowing him to gain the power boost in an earned and respectful way.
I once calculated Yamcha's power, this guy gets the power to destroy planets like Jupiter AS EARLY AS THE SAIYAN SAGA. JUPITER. U KNOW HOW BIG JUPITER IS? THE RED SPOT ALONE IS LIKE 2 EARTH'S WIDE.
How? If you mind if I ask
@@iseeopenings3921master roshi full power can vaporize the moon and scans of him being able to power up a star in og db. Yamcha is way above that roshi during saiyan saga.
One Punch Man is, feats-wise, equivalent to Super Perfect Cell
@@omlandahYeah that and calculations too
Watching OG after only being familiar with Z was so cool seeing “random background characters” have full fleshed out stories. Watching it from og to z it’s heart breaking seeing the former top guys (tien, yamacha, yajirobe, korin, kami) get completely tossed to the side
I agree. As someone who watched this since the og , I love Yamcha, Tien and Lunch, I'm really sad when they just becime background characters as the story progressed further. And Toriyama forgot Lunch too.
Yajirobe was never a top guy though. He was a relatively tough guy who lived in the forest and survived by hunting and fishing. He gets his ass kicked by one of King Piccolo's henchmen before Goku has to intervene. But from then on, he just sticks around Korin so that he can eat lots of Senzu beans so that he never has to go hungry again.
OG DB is absolutely great and deserves more credit. Had tons of fun with it in my childhood both reading the manga (which was very popular in Brazil) and watching the anime (which as also extremely popular in Brazil)
That's something that really irks me to be honest. I started with the OG anime and only later watched Z. Yamcha was one of my favorites by the end. So were Krillin and Tien. Ok, Krillin still has his moments but after the Freeza saga, Goku and Vegeta basically became the main characters with Gohan having his moments here and there. Even Piccolo was irrelevant for a while there. All the world building, all that character development flushed down the toilet.
as someone whos has watched db. im glad yamcha is finally getting the respect he deserves.
Love seeing Yamcha get excited in fighting again when he trains in the other world..
1. He survived 300x gravity, that alone is BADASS;
2. If Master Roshi can flex on Jiren - so can Yamcha;
3. Maybe have Yamcha become the next God of Earth?
What Abt piccolo being the next god after dendae?
@@JoseSantos-xz1zcnone would have happened because namekians live longer than humans, and Piccolo is a warrior type, he doesn't wanna be a guardian
@@shtreberka3642 true true, but I feel like yamcha wouldn't want to be the next kami yk, I think if any humans would it would be someone like roshi or Tien or possibly krillin but only to keep him relevant
Excatly. I like your point on master roshi flexing on jiren....this means yamcha can show some skills too and look good. i swear the only way for humans to quickly level up is if they get Ui. we know Ui isnt a saiyan only move and anyone can do it so why not?
As a human, surviving 300x gravity is fucking ludicrous.
Yamcha is a great Baseball player and nobody can take that away from him.
Another original character thrown to wayside in favor insane transformations.
I honestly would prefer a rebeoot where the power gaps aren't anywhere near as wide, the cell and freeza sagas overlap massively; and it is gohan, not Goku, that becomes the first super saiyan against freeza, in place of him doing it vs cell
And there's only ever one super saiyan, Gohan. That's it. no others.
And he goes super saiyan when goku dies at the hands of freeza, who is invading earth to use the dragon balls.
Also, on top of all that, the DB's are nerfed into the ground and can't resurrect people
This setting would raise the stakes on each individual fight, would make it so that while the likes of Tien and Yamcha would still get slammed by nappa and vegeta, they would at least stand a chance.
Also the ONLY characters powerful enough to destroy planets would be Perfect Cell (who would, instead of time travelling, simply have been designed many years earlier than he was in the original DBZ), SSJ Gohan, Freeza, and Beerus.
That's it.
Nobody else.
Buu could be retconned completely, his arc was stupid anyway.
But yeah, this would mean that human characters, along with the likes of the Ginyu force and lesser androids, would never become completely irrelevant.
@@MyopicPowerhouse You lost me at the Goku dying to Frieza nonsense. I can get Gohan being the only SS but why would Gohan be worried about his Dad dying when he has already died and came back before, his Dad is also amongst the strongest beings in the known universe, and they are currently in possesion of the Dragon Balls?
@@DragoonCenten Nah you didn't read it
Goku would not have died before, this would be his only death
The Dragonballs would also be nerfed, and unable to resurrect people - that power just takes away the impact of any deaths of characters.
If we're going to criticise Disney for "fake killing" characters so much (which we all do) then why do we do the same thing with dragonballs? Consequences for failure give meaning to the triumphs.
This hypothetical that i'm suggesting is a 100% reboot - completely new story, completely new everything. Total restart.
Also, in addition to what i just said - I lost you at Gohan reacting to his dads death... but Akira Toriyama did *not* lose you at Gohan reacting to Android !@#$ing 16 dying? He didn't even know who the !@#$ Android 16 was. He just met him!@@DragoonCenten
@@MyopicPowerhouse tbh even with all that characters like yamcha still sadly get outclassed by the TOP, saiyans are just busted even without super saiyan lol
I'll always love Yamcha for a variety of reasons, but one of the best is that he never, EVER hesitates to jump in to fight the good fight. He is ALWAYS ready to fight for his friends and for what's right. He's there when the team needs him, when the world needs him, and he's a damn good fighter in his own right. It's not his fault that he's up against literal GODS in his universe :(
Yamcha (true destroyer of universe 7), Tien (his angel attendee), and chiaotzu (the true surpreme kai). Beerus is Yamcha's Monaka.
I love to see positive Lord Yamaha content🥲
To be fair the other world is the perfect place for people like yamcha to shine.
You put more thought into power scaling than the writers themselves...
True. I'm glad he low-balled Yamaha here. Halibu was at least as strong as Scholar said but let's remember that Halibu was basically in the league of Pikkon. Pikkon was strong enough to one shot Perfect Cell in the Buu saga. I'm not saying that Yamcha is near perfect cell level but if we compare Pikkon's growth to the theoretical growth of Halibu, Yamcha could have reasonably gotten MUCH stronger than the Goku that fought with Pikkon. After all, Halibu is the kind of guy to train 24/7 just like Pikkon. You can say that Pikkon grew much faster because of training with Goku but there is no way Halibu wouldn't have been grown a decent amount in all that time.
Writers care about good story not power scaling .
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 I mean.....You're talking about dragon ball here....idk if you should say that Akira is caring about the Buu saga story quality xD
I pray some day him and Tien get a legit movie. Give us side character fans something fun.
Great idea
What disappoints me is the focus on the Saiyans only because God Ki could've been such a good vehicle to return the humans to the fold. Anyone can use it no matter the species and they could've been a true team in the ToP with them all using God Ki and ascending.
Very true the humans, the other universe fighters, the other world fighters not to mention the other planets in each universe being explored would be nice to see.
ah yes, because everyone applauded the power-up fire sale of the Buu saga.
Repeating it on a stupidly large scale would surely bring critical acclaim
....not.
@@MyopicPowerhouse You'd rather have it be the Goku and Vegeta show forever? L take.
If we had one bargain bin sale another won't hurt.
@@DragoonCenten I'll copy-pasta because it's easier, but this is what I said in reply to another similar comment: "I honestly would prefer a rebeoot where the power gaps aren't anywhere near as wide, the cell and freeza sagas overlap massively; and it is gohan, not Goku, that becomes the first super saiyan against freeza, in place of him doing it vs cell
And there's only ever one super saiyan, Gohan. That's it. no others.
And he goes super saiyan when goku dies at the hands of freeza, who is invading earth to use the dragon balls.
Also, on top of all that, the DB's are nerfed into the ground and can't resurrect people
This setting would raise the stakes on each individual fight, would make it so that while the likes of Tien and Yamcha would still get slammed by nappa and vegeta, they would at least stand a chance.
Also the ONLY characters powerful enough to destroy planets would be Perfect Cell (who would, instead of time travelling, simply have been designed many years earlier than he was in the original DBZ), SSJ Gohan, Freeza, and Beerus.
That's it.
Nobody else.
Buu could be retconned completely, his arc was stupid anyway.
But yeah, this would mean that human characters, along with the likes of the Ginyu force and lesser androids, would never become completely irrelevant."
No, I do not want it to be the "Goku and Vegeta show" forever, that is not my take, and your take is an L take for misinterpreting my take haha
People forgot how high the stakes were back then. Remember, Yamcha insisted on taking over Krillin’s place in fighting the next Saibamen, acting on a bad hunch (and he was right). His actions there allowed for Krillin to survive this battle against the 2 Saiyans.
Nice video, it’s good to see Yamcha given proper credit and respect.
Yamaha on the edge of going on his villain arch and coming back with god power
@SaiyanScholar I'm glad you are the one only UA-camr still believed & make content of the goated Yamcha anyway we us the true Yamcha fans wants to make Yamcha great again let's make it happen.
As someone grew up watching og db , Yamcha is one of my favourite characters. I agree with all that being said in this video.
I still remember his legendary scene was such a shocking to younger me that time. It is frustrating that most of other people only remember aand making fun of that scene rather than see who is Yamcha other than that scene.
Yamcha shows us if things don’t go your way you should still persevere and make those decisions in life because they could pay off in the end. He’s just like us in real life
Your respect to the human fighters is what makes me coming back to your videos.
I love them and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR TENSHINHAN "role model" videos. Need those as t shirts man...
When I was a kid, Yamcha is among my favorite characters. I remember reading an Isekai manga about how the main char who is a DB fan, got reincarnated as Yamcha, and showed how he could be 'strong' and save the world with his limited potential as a human
Edit: Okay you talked about that manga
Yamcha survive 400x earth gravity and wasn’t instantly killed… that alone makes him OP af
DBS should do my boy yamcha some justice and give him some cool training or special ability
One thing I want to point out is that on the Sayan fight ABSOLUTELY all of the Z fighters would have died with that surprise attack from the sabaiman except for piccolo because of his regeneration. And let's be honest Krilin was going to die first if Yamcha wasn't such good friend and confident enough he could win, something that technically he did before that self destruct move.
I meeeean I noticed you didn't mention when he tries his best to beat kids XD Goku n Chi Chi
Wow so you're saying that even his maturity has insane growth speeds >.>
Tien and yamcha was soo much wasted potential just because they wanted krillin to be Goku's best friend
I am actively a fan of Yamcha xD. I sincerely appreciate this video
For a human he did the absolute best anyone could have ever ask for in life
We need more wholesome character redemptions like this. One example can be that Goku is a good dad or even about Hercule, who is also seen as a joke character, but he legit won the world martial arts tournament in the absence of the Z fighters.
I get why many characters are overshadowed by Goku's influence but I know that they deserve better, Yamcha especially. He is a great human fighter just like Tien & Krillin & it hurts to still know that they get more love than him.
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It's the fanbase that "bases" who should be in the spotlight & not too much by the creators themselves, which is why I'll never be a fan of Dragonball regardless how popular it is...
Also the fanbase is the main reason why GT's non-canon, because if it wasn't then Toriyama wouldn't have said anything.
GT was also trash, so I don't see a problem.
@@DragoonCenten I too see that to a certain extent, I wouldn't say it outright deserved it though since people still like SSJ4 so much, myself included
Yamcha was never on the level of Tien nor is as close to Goku as Krillin. Thats why they were showcased more in super. Yamcha in Dragonball had a little more shine but he wasn’t great
@@dominiquerobinson8888 Or maybe it's because some of you believe he doesn't deserve it? He'll never get any screentime if we keep bullying him into obscenity, and I know that many would still be ok with that by the next decade over...
I feel like I have watched this video from you like 7 times. But honestly I'm not complaining, I'll watch 7 more! Go Yamcha!
Yamcha is severely underrated if you ask me he deserve much better😒
Vegeta: No
This man slapped berrus while the Prince of all saiyans hid in a bush .
Yamcha's two only personal accomplishmentd throughout the entire series. Was getting over his fear of girls. Just to end up alone in any romantic relationship anyway. And bringing the first introduction of any kind of a spirit bomb into the show. That's about all the writing has ever giving him.
Yamcha can one shot 99% of all fictional characters.
I love seeing characters like yamcha getting there flowers
Stone Cold w/Can of whoop ass = God tier😅 🍻
It's sad, he was my favorite character in DB and early Z. I remember when he came back with the face scars before the tournament. I was freaking excited! I hope to see more of him in the future.
I was a person that watched DBZ before Dragon Ball. I remember I was willing to watch the whole series of DB just for the hell of it, and I actually learned to appreciate Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, Chiaotzu, and every other earthling in the show, because of what impact they had back then. I also enjoyed the fact that Dragon Ball was more martial arts orientated. I am currently watching DBGT and I must admit it isn't as bad as everyone make it seems. Great Video!
I wish he got more love. I had thought before about ways to buff him up in the story and I realized how cool it would’ve been if he’d gotten the spirit bomb when training on King Kai’s world with the added ability to control it like his spirit ball. It’s a small idea but I wish something like that would’ve been done.
Yamcha and other dragon ball side characters need a spin off series to show how awesome they really are!
Yamcha is one of those characters that's great on paper, but not that great in practice. He may have potential, and be powerful, but if he never existed I wouldn't care.
I love using Yamcha on anyone in any game.
Yamcha was always one of my favorite characters in OG Dragon Ball. DBZ ruined him, but in the original, he was nothing short of badass. Also, his Wolf Fang Fist technique looked cool as hell. Of course, that was back when DB fights were about martial arts, and not just about flashy lights and incomprehensible numbers.
First reaction to seeing the title was pure TFS Vegeta lmao
"Explain, shitstain..."
My girl got me the dead Yamcha pop funko. It was and is and will always be the best gift I have ever received.
I love how Yamcha recently beat Moro’s strongest goons.
"bUt ThAt'S fIlLeR!"
Hell yeah, the Yamster is incredibly underrated
even the writes just stoped caring about him
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the power up, Sir! You're a Legend!
The problem with characters like Yamcha in the newest Dragon Ball is that there is no room for anyone besides the strongest...Theres no scenes of clandestine operations, gathering information on the enemy...finding their secret hideout, find the cure for the heart virus, hide the dragon balls etc etc....This is perfect stuff for the weaker characters like Krillin and Yamcha to carry out and show off their skills...But the new Dragon Ball is basically just about power and who has it, who has the most, who can transform...There's no real nuanced character growth or portrayal...
Yamcha deserves a werewolf-like transformation/power up.
The problem with Yamcha is that he was Worf-effected and ultimately reduced to just that. Starting with the original World Martial Arts Tournament, Toriyama used him to show how strong Goku's final opponent would be, first Jackie Chun, then Tien. In the third tournament, he may not have fought Junior, but he was still used to show how powerful Kami was since no one had ever seen Kami fight, and thereby demonstrate how powerful Kami and Picollo and by extension Goku were compared to everyone else. His death at the hands of the Saibaman continued that trend, which culminated in his being impaled by Dr. Gero to demonstrate how dangerous the androids were.
After Gero, Vegeta became the new Worf-effect character given how close in power he was to Goku once they were both super saiyan. He has shared that role with Gohan since the start of the Buu Saga, with Resurrection F being the worst offender in treating Gohan exactly how Yamcha used to be treated. But both characters still have moments of triumph or greatness that Yamcha was never allowed to have in Z. With his role as the guy who gets beat to establish the strength of the new enemy taken by 2 saiyans, Toriyama had nothing else for Yamcha to do, and he was written out.
A happy yamcha fan here for life!
Tien is the most underrated character in the DB universe
I never cared yamcha is and always been my favorite character since I was a kid watching dragon ball
First Yamcha, then Krillin, then Tien.
I think yamcha needs a new form
I'm glad you telling the truth about my boy Yamcha
For me, it’s not that he is a joke but that he became a joke, stayed a joke and then faded into obscurity as a side character. He’s never been a coward, just weak
Yamcha needs his own exclusive power boost.. Gets a sword say a sword of destruction.. And he gets a power boost.. Just something
They turned yamcha into Kenny from south park😭🤣
Thats my GOAT, i will never lose hope that the wolf someday will shine like it did in OG DB, he inspires me to stay optimistic and keep training despite how much rocks life throws me, im just him.
In terms of power it's a planet buster. That's some insane shit to think about
"The gods of excretion" was pretty funny. 😂
For the next one you should do Mr Satan
Yamcha got a power level in the millions by the buu saga and he's like the 3rd strongest human ever.
Yamacha isn't weak, in the broad perspective of the franchise. But he's ultimately a character who didn't make the cut and falls off. That's all that happened.
The POWER of INSULTING Yamcha
justice for yamcha
Yamcha , Tien , Android 17 & Android 16 are my favorite dragonball characters
I liked the dragon ball super reference because Yamcha did actually accomplish something (he got on home). The fact that it resembled his greatest failure is what makes it hilarious, kind of like the guy who invented the ice cream cone.
"I brought towels"
I remembered how cool Yamcha was when he appeared in the Moro Arc
Phattest yancha cope known to man, peak video tho 👌
what happened to the SHOCKING yamaha power
Thanks for the support for my boi man. Loved him from the og dragonball and was hurt when they made him a joke in Z. Speaking of underraited i see you have a video on tien. I know where im going afyer this.
Chiaotzu: [Slowly backs into the bushes]...
Love my boy such a wasted character
Super hadn't written Yamcha well enough at all to have earned a moment like that for gags.
Yamcha was always my favorite character. i read once a fan made manga that has him learn the full wolf fang fist from the master who taught him the first part of it. and he takes on goku at the end, and goku acknowledges how far and strong he has gotten. all pre super stuff.
Are you talking about DBZ Elsewhere by Aremke/RMK, because I love that fan-manga as well. Unfortunately it hasn't had an update for 4 years, but it's still a good read.
9:22 You started really cookin' 🍳😂😂lol "why couldn't Yamcha stay dead. Right, for the sake of his progress 😅