When Hosea and Lenny died, the gang was finished. Hosea was the voice of reason. Lenny was the future. There was no way out of the desaster after this.
fireball6840 It was the opposite for me. Seeing Hosea there at gunpoint, I knew it was going to happen which made me sad, but Lenny, man I did not see that coming. I almost felt that if I hit the dead eye button sooner, I could’ve saved him. I really liked Hosea and Lenny. RIP
It's sad that Lenny's death was so unceremonious. Hosea got a cutscene, Sean was very sudden but it also got a cutscene, Lenny is just shot down like a random Joe.
It sucks that Lenny died he was one of my favourite characters and i love him and Arthur’s friendship it’s hilarious what happens in A Quiet Time when they get drunk
Dutch: God dammit Arthur! Get over here! Arthur: Nah. Gotta get 25 headshots first for that gold rank! I'm doing a Gold Medal walkthrough for UA-cam! Dutch: Arthur! What the hell are you talking about? Arthur: I got 2 million subscribers! Do you realise how big that is? I can't let my fans down!
Notice how this bank robbery disposes of the guys Arthur trusts with his life, down to when the arrive on Guarma. Hosea, John, Lenny and Charles. Two are shot, one is arrested, and one stays behind to make a distraction.
Seth Angulo yea that’s what I thought because like Arthur at first I thought in chapter six if the had maybe not Sean but he was good company and Lenny and hosea and Charles because I bet that on guarma if they had them Dutch would’ve never gone insane
That and the fact Rockstar didn't want John to take up too much of the spotlight from the rest of the gang. Notice how he was absent for most of the story missions and only played a major role in the finales.
I agree, blackwater may have been a disaster but at least the gang got back on its feet somewhat. This robbery literally broke them this time around as they lost their voice of reason Hosea, Lenny, and John ended up being arrested and incarcerated. There was no going back after this fuck up.
I never noticed how Javier actually stopped after seeing Lenny get killed. There are many moments throughout the game that show Javier wasn’t as bad as Bill or Micah, he actually has Arthur’s back for a majority of the game and it explains why in the first game he never actually attempted to kill John. Javier wasn’t a bad person he just followed the wrong people but unlike John and Arthur, he followed them blindly.
@@matejstradal1142 I'm pretty sure Bill openly allowed his gang to go around attacking poor folk and raping women in the first game. I could be wrong, but I really don't think I am, Bill is just a violent, vile person.
@@gaybowser4967 bill just wanted to be a leader is the thing, but i can only imagine how poorly he did in comparison to dutch, its a wonder they didnt overrun and kill the man Who knows maybe he did learn a thing or two from his old mentor
In the final showdown, you can see how Javier struggles to point his gun at Arthur because deep down he still respects him but like bill, he is blindly loyal to Dutch
I actually like that John became more responsable after jack got kidnapped and realizes what he has in front of him because before he treated Abigail like shit and didn’t want Jack saying it wasn’t his and then you see him actually caring and mature
His opinion of Arthur becomes glowing as well due to his part in getting him back, it's real refreshing encountering him welcome you on your way back to camp at that point.
@@IEatElephantss Yeah, i think Abigail was also very immature and didn't like motherhood. She even constantly blames John for making her pregnant with Jack.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 she really cares about Jack though. Which is her problem she *only* cares about Jack, anything bad that happens around him even if it's for a good reason (John helping the farm folk, killing Micah, etc) she'll make a big deal about it and it's so annoying
*Spoiler alert* Hosea and Lenny were killed by Pinkertons thanked to Micah did who exposed informed to Pinkertons about Dutch plan to robbing Bank in Saint Denis then they set trap on Bank for target on gangs. Micah is Rat (traitor)
@@domengasperinii4443 true. But at least we saw Cornwall ride off before we get control of Arthur. During Fleeting Joy Milton literaly vanished while still monologuing
That’s young and his death was shocking and sad, I didn’t realise Lenny was that young i thought he was in his early to mid 20s. I wish they at least had a cutscene for Lenny when he died
I just realized: The advice that is given on several point in the game, "run away and never look back"... no one listens to it, and nearly every character dies after they DO look back. In this mission, both Lenny and Hosea die immediatly after looking back. It´s the same with Sean in chapter 3. At some point in the game, Mary Linton suggests that Arthur should run away with her and never look back, which he doesn´t, dooming himself in the process. Even Dutch and John Marston die this way in RDR1. Amazing storytelling.
It was when Arthur tells John about running and never looking back at his past, but he went after Micah which Ross was able to track John from there causing the first game events to occur.
@@CatchTheMarmosets not necessarily. People can survive TB for years if they refrain from severe exhaustion and a weakened immune system. Given the physical strain placed on Arthur with being kidnapped by the O'Driscolls, exposure to several wounds and beatings and especially the events of Guarma aggravated his condition to the point of no return.
The rat was Abigail. How the hell did she slip away from the Pinkertons when Hosea got caught. Plus, why did they kill Hosea and Lenny but arrested John instead of killing him. Goes on to show that Abigail wanted John's life spared in exchange for information
With Rockstar... I always find that one mission in their games that just wows me. It doesn't need to be the most epic or action packed. It just needs to flow perfectly and deliver a moment that sticks. From the gung-ho attitude of the gang before riding off, to the explosion, to Milton showing up with Hosea, and the way it all turns around so fast... gone is the hope. Gone is that attitude. Desperation and loss set in. And that music... that intense, yet simple synth pulsing like an alarm as you open fire... very similar to the Paleto Scroe in GTA V, it just delivers that moment for me.
ChipJones421 if anything this mission actually tops the Paleto Score in pure wow factor as it has serious and shocking consequences for the story as a whole.
The real OG Noseybonk Without question. Paleto was more of the puncuation mark that this was GTA's return to its roots pre-GTA IV (which some felt... including me, felt like a departure from the tone of the franchise... which is not a bad thing but... I was always a fan of GTA's dark comedy and ability to go a bit balls to wall). Another good example is in Max Payne 3 during the airport shootout when Tears by HEALTH starts to play. It just perfectly captured the entire feel of the franchise... the song is basically Max's wife telling him to let her go, yet every situation Max is in (during the games) against impossible odds alone, can't because it all has stemmed from her death and he could never go back.
I honestly cannot decide, this mission is great, but there’s also the raid on the braithwaite manor, the ferry heist, the shootout in Lakay, and American Venom
Everyone Arthur trusted with his life went down in this one mission alone. Hosea (his father) - shot John (his brother) - arrested Lenny (his son) - shot Charles (his best friend) - distraction
@@danim8414sounds kinda funny at first but if you think about it, Arthur had his son, Isaac, when he was only in his early twenties I believe and he's around 36/37 in the game. So, had isacc not died he wouldn't be that far off Lenny's age by now (19)
@@simonsaura8138 nah there were 3 killed in blackwater (Jenny, and the calender brothers). And 1 sepereated (John)and 2 captured (Sean and mac). Blackwater seems to have gone a lot worse.
When Dutch says "I love that Hosea, he is a true artist" just before they enter the bank, a few chords play that sound awfully similar to the ones that play when Hosea's corpse lies on the ground.
@@keeganpacker9332 nobody will ever know what truly transpired in Blackwater because of its mystery. Too many people having too many accounts on the incident. One account that is true though, is that this is the first step of Dutch Van Der Linde toward his downfall.
@Sam Beckett a massacre doesn't need to take place on several streets to be a massacre. if a large gun battle ensues in one street that's only half a mile long, and 60 people are killed in that gunfight, it's a massacre.
At 11:29 Javier yelled 'Hosea... He isn't moving!" Javier was particularly close to Hosea. You can see this as he offers a handshake to Hosea in the mission where Arthur and Javier save John in Ambarino.
so? no one said anything like "javier didnt care about hosea" everyone cared about hosea in the gang, he was like a father to them all, everyone knows that javier and all the other gang members cared about hosea, i dont get the point of this comment
Everything that could've gone wrong in this robbery went wrong: - The gang lost Hosea, an important part of it. - Lenny, one of their youngest members, died. - Arthur started to show active TB. - John got arrested. - Abigail got captured. - Dutch, Arthur, Bill, Javier and Micah got stranded in the Caribbean for quite a few weeks.
Nah,Arthur began to look bad around Paradise Mercifully Departed,where you escape Guarma,his eyes begin to turn bloodshot and he begins to cough during the escape. Guarma was the nail in the coffin for him. If only the ship didn’t capsize.
I just realised something. In the first game you first go into Mexico in mission 25. In mission 25 in RDR2 you finish chapter 2 and go into the state of Lemoyne. Finishing the mission rewards you with a trophy called "To Greener Pastures". However, in the first game in the end of mission 25, Irish mentions wanting to seek greener pastures. Coincidence? I think not. Edit: Thanks for the likes! :)
3:22 John might be the only one who saw the writing on the wall for this heist. As good as Hosea was at planning heists, Agent Milton knew the moment that Angelo Bronte died one of the banks he protected was going to be robbed. Notice how Dutch responds to John talking about being realistic. He’s throwing all rationality out the window and starting to say and do whatever he can to justify his actions
@@leonpaelinckWhat I never even realized until a recent replay was that Hosea didn’t even want to rob Cornwall in the first place, a major inciting incident in them even being over here getting shot to all hell after Valentine.
@@3headedsnake388 What is interesting about robbing Cornwall’s train is that it does not matter whether or not you kill or spare the train’s crew. The Van der Linde Gang is still connected with it. While there is no explanation given, I am willing to bet that the Pinkertons likely stumbled across the O’Driscoll camp while they were investigating, put two on two together and knew that it had to be Van der Linde (the bloody rivalry between the two gangs is already well known and they definitely knew that the gang had fled into Ambarino with the only reason for losing them was because of a blizzard). Hosea was right about robbing Cornwall, if anything, they reopened the trail on themselves and they opened it wide.
Dutch's face after realizing Hosea was dead shows genuine shock and immediately after blind anger. and Rockstar did amazing at expressing emotions in this game.
I like how at 6:46 Micah says "This... this'd better work" right after Dutch tells them to wait for Hosea, and right after that John warns them about the guards, but Dutch criticises John about not having faith rather than Micah
Micah also seemed to be worried about this mission at the start, asking about the Blackwater money. Everyone seemed to have doubts or be nervous about this large job.
@@tanim.3578 whaaaat....people survive...sadie adler leaves, charles leaves, rains fall goes to Canada where the rest of the tribe resides, tilly has a family, reverend swanson makes it out, trelawny makes it out, mary beth writes books, uncle, john, abigail, jack. Theeeen you got Bill javier and doytch.
I know I'm a year late but I heard a theory that he was working with the Pinkertons the whole time and the suit was so they didnt shoot him. Not sure if I believe the theory but it's something to thing about.
Maniac Chicken7 that is what happens Milton probably was saying that Micah was more willing to help them after guarma. For all we now they could have been picking up Micah this whole time trying to get him to talk
@@maniacchicken7564 Micah only ratted the gang after Guarma, In the final mission, Milton would've said Micah was the reason of the disaster In Saint Denis.
This mission alone makes me want a DLC where Jack kills all of the surviving members of the Pinkertons that took part in the downfall of the Van Der Linde Gang
yeah the one time hosea makes a plan that goes wrong it gets killed still it wouldnt have happend if they didnt go after bronde (yeah i messed up the name i know)
Right, if only he listened to his gut as I'm sure his instincts were telling him to avoid trying this big job. At least for now as they hadn't long killed off Bronte which no doubt got attention quickly.
@@xxmaddiegirlxx2000 yeah i like to thing that was the good part off dutch shining thought ironic how the one plan that dutch didnt make is the one that destroyed the gang the most still it aint hoseas fault if they didnt go after bronte they prabably would have been fine
@@heliax9924 Tell me you didn't lay attention to the story without telling me you didn't pay attention to the story. No, they wouldn't be fine, they would be in even deeper shit.
Fun details about this mission: At 6:57 the gaurds in front of the bank are probably pinkertons given their black clothing and hats, especially since the guard inside is in the usual blue outfit. At 9:31 The gang takes off their masks as the pinkertons already know them. At 9:41 Ross is behind milton like the lap dog he is and is also cowering behind the wagon while everyone else is somewhat open (even milton had more confidence than him) At 9:59 Micah mouths something. I'm not good at reading lips but I believe he just says fuck. At 10:01 John and Lenny have the worst cover in the building. Right in front of the glass front door that would be a bitch to get out of cover from. At 10:22 you can hear a tiny bit of TB Arthur when he says "Goddamn it!" You can hear the mucus/blood in his voice he normally gets after coughing or, as shown here, yelling. At 10:28 blood pouring out of his nose. At 10:31 that is actually Arthurs breathing, not Dutch, as it can be heard as Dutch is talking. Just shows how PISSED Arthur is at the moment. At 10:57 you can hear Arthur say "kill those sons of bitches!" What he actually says can change but it is always very pissed and involves "kill them!" This is one of arthurs most heated moments and is also one of the only times he cares about "revenge" (though it is only for a few seconds and out of pure anger and adrenaline [hardly revenge rather than just a gun fight]). At 16:35 Arthur voice cracks. Whether this is intentional idk, but I like to believe it is as people voice crack a lot when screaming like this. At 16:55 everyone knows the "Micah and Bill didnt stop" thing, but Dutch stops further and signals Arthur "What the hell are you doing we gotta go!" At 17:22 This is one of the last times Dutch has Arthur as 2nd place in a formation like this, on horse or otherwise. Later Micah is put in 2nd as Arthur slowly gets pushed to the back (you cannot pass Micah/Dutch fully in formation in chapter 6 [for horses]) At 18:53 Dutch, or more specifically Ben, takes the chair. He had a chair in the studio that he wouldnt let anyone else sit it and it was his chair, I like to think he is doing that right here and they just let it happen. 19:27 Funny Arthur :)
The fact that Lenny's death is the most watched part of this video is just heartbreaking 😭 that just shows how many of us love Lenny and tried so hard to save him 😭
I wanted this robbery to really go well for the gang. This was without a doubt an insanely intense mission. Bullets flying, Hosea & Lenny dead. Talk about immensely chaotic.
that actually wasnt the part of script. dutch's actor always had his own special chair for himself and in this scene, charles' actor was sitting on it, so dutch's actor removed him lol
This mission was emotional in so many ways, how Dutch says "Hosea" after him being shot and killed you felt that disbelief and anger boil over you like you were right there with them. The hell strom of bullets that comes after is just satisfying
John Donovan so they have power in Mexico and not Canada? Edit: The FBI have sub divisions in place around the world and could easily have field agents track down wanted men and women in other countries and continents for that matter
@@lysol.3987 What are you talking about it? They have no power on Mexico. Why the fuck do you think that Ross was waiting for John in the border on the U.S. side?
"Gentlemen . . . robbing thieves, it ain't no crime at all. Folks like this . . . they stole what this country could have been." My favorite Dutch quote
Micah being in a different color suit as everyone else is so perfect. There’s a similar thing when they’re on Guarma. That was the point where I figured Micah was undermining the rest of the gang
26:04 Just to mention how good Micah's voice actor played his role, the way he says, 'I ain't no sailor but' then a natural badass cough, man he actually got into his character.
Notice how Dutch is rarely involved in a heist, but every time he is, it goes to shit. The first train robbery goes smooth but it triggers Cornwall and Milton, so in the end dooms them
Did anyone noticed that everyones suit matches their honor Arthur= Blue (High Honor) Dutch= Red (Low Honor) John= Blue (High Honor) Charles= Blue (High Honor) Micah= Red (Low Honor) Hosea= Blue (High Honor) Javier= Gray (Neutral Honor) Lenny= Blue (High Honor) Bill= Gray (Neutral Honor)
Micah wears a dark red vest concealed beneath a bright white and golden suit, which is symbolic of the fact that Micah decided to wear a dark red vest concealed beneath a bright white and golden suit.
@@StitchPen Allso the reason Micah is wearing a white suit is to stand out from the rest who are wearing a darker clothes. Because he was the rat so that they don’t accidentally kill him and you can see him looking around for Pinkerton agents.
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u Watch the video again and you can see him looking around for Pinkerton agents and during the shootout ironically he says they have a rat. Plus when riding to the bank he is constantly asking about the escape plan.
Hosea's death shocked me, made my mouth drop and scream "HOSEA!" it was so sad and Dutch's reaction was depressing. When Lenny was about to die, i was terrified and quickly activated Dead Eye to headshot the two guys, but i didn't realise that they were invincible before Lenny dies, i screamed when my head shots didn't work and Lenny got shot "NOO! LENNY! THAT WAS A HEADSHOT THE GUYS, IT DIDN'T WORK!", i killed those two guys after he dies, i loved that kid man, especially after that drinking mission in the beginning, he was so young.. R.I.P Lenny. R.I.P Hosea.
This mission made me not even want to finish the game. Sean’s was sudden and angered me. Kieran’s was so haunting and traumatizing to me and at this point I knew, it was gonna get worse. Hosea’s and Lenny’s was the last straw. Eventually, I went back to finish the game, but the deaths stuck with me. 10/10 game, one of the best.
A couple of things I noticed was that Hosea turned to face Milton as he walked away, likely thinking the agent would shoot him in the back regardless of what he did.
That theory about Dutch being changed by a head injury during the tram crash in Saint Denis really does hold water, he's so indecisive while Hosea lays out the plan for the bank job, which was so unlike him up to this point.
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When Hosea and Lenny died, the gang was finished. Hosea was the voice of reason. Lenny was the future. There was no way out of the desaster after this.
Lenny was the future alright... he symbolizes the gangs future... shot up and forgotten.
The Marston Family were the future too
Charles was still there... But he lost FAITH
Sean was definitely the future too. It felt so odd how everyone but Molly and Arthur mourned him
Morgan Myer Arthur mourned Sean what the hell you talking about?
Hosea shocked me.
Lenny crushed me..
Really I was expecting Lenny to live through the story
fireball6840
It was the opposite for me. Seeing Hosea there at gunpoint, I knew it was going to happen which made me sad, but Lenny, man I did not see that coming. I almost felt that if I hit the dead eye button sooner, I could’ve saved him. I really liked Hosea and Lenny. RIP
It's sad that Lenny's death was so unceremonious. Hosea got a cutscene, Sean was very sudden but it also got a cutscene, Lenny is just shot down like a random Joe.
It sucks that Lenny died he was one of my favourite characters and i love him and Arthur’s friendship it’s hilarious what happens in A Quiet Time when they get drunk
To me, that is opposite.
Dutch: God dammit Arthur! Get over here!
Arthur: Nah. Gotta get 25 headshots first for that gold rank! I'm doing a Gold Medal walkthrough for UA-cam!
Dutch: Arthur! What the hell are you talking about?
Arthur: I got 2 million subscribers! Do you realise how big that is? I can't let my fans down!
LOL
With all that UA-cam money Arthur made on all this gold medal business why didn't they just go to Tahiti with all that?
Dutch: what in the world are yo...
Arthur: HaVe SoMe GoD Dame FaItH!!
@@gamejunky3040 Goddamn I love this.
Arthur: *WE NEED MUNEH DUTCH*
I think rockstar had John get arrested so when the ship crashes he won’t need to swim since he can’t swim
Notice how this bank robbery disposes of the guys Arthur trusts with his life, down to when the arrive on Guarma. Hosea, John, Lenny and Charles. Two are shot, one is arrested, and one stays behind to make a distraction.
Seth Angelo I never thought of that.
Seth Angulo yea that’s what I thought because like Arthur at first I thought in chapter six if the had maybe not Sean but he was good company and Lenny and hosea and Charles because I bet that on guarma if they had them Dutch would’ve never gone insane
And to add to the storyline...
That and the fact Rockstar didn't want John to take up too much of the spotlight from the rest of the gang. Notice how he was absent for most of the story missions and only played a major role in the finales.
If you care about Arthur, about the gang, don't finish this mission, stay forever in free roam.
Honestly I care about both. Thats how story works.
And Sean? 👀
O you right
made the same mistake as well
Just started a new game, gonna take my sweet time this playthrough
And this is where everything went nuts.
On November
get out @@markoz673bajen8
Nah that was blackwater failure
Nah,pretty sure it's from Sean got shot,that's when everything went nuts
I agree, blackwater may have been a disaster but at least the gang got back on its feet somewhat. This robbery literally broke them this time around as they lost their voice of reason Hosea, Lenny, and John ended up being arrested and incarcerated. There was no going back after this fuck up.
It’s sad that Dutch says “I love that Hosea!” Couple minutes later he gets killed...
Patrick Dumb Star He was gay.
I Love you Patrick Star
Domen Gašperin Jr. that doesn’t mean he is gay, if your gay you marry someone the same gender as you.
@@domengasperinii4443 Dutch ain't no fsg, he liked women man, he was a womanizer.
Sarken “You always loved the ladies Dutch Van Der Linde.”
Losing both Hosea and Lenny in the same mission was absolutely brutal. Major gut punch when you first play it
and poor Lenny didn't even get a cutscene...
Lenny deserved it! he's black
RIP Hosea
@@ramnarinegiri bro really replied that to a 2 year old message💀
@@ramnarinegiribro talking about a fictional character haha says a lot about you
@@ramnarinegiri No way bro 💀
I never noticed how Javier actually stopped after seeing Lenny get killed. There are many moments throughout the game that show Javier wasn’t as bad as Bill or Micah, he actually has Arthur’s back for a majority of the game and it explains why in the first game he never actually attempted to kill John. Javier wasn’t a bad person he just followed the wrong people but unlike John and Arthur, he followed them blindly.
Bill wasnt bad but he just stayed loyal to Dutch just like Javier did.
@@matejstradal1142 I'm pretty sure Bill openly allowed his gang to go around attacking poor folk and raping women in the first game. I could be wrong, but I really don't think I am, Bill is just a violent, vile person.
@@gaybowser4967 bill just wanted to be a leader is the thing, but i can only imagine how poorly he did in comparison to dutch, its a wonder they didnt overrun and kill the man
Who knows maybe he did learn a thing or two from his old mentor
In the final showdown, you can see how Javier struggles to point his gun at Arthur because deep down he still respects him but like bill, he is blindly loyal to Dutch
I 100% agree with you. but Javier knew right from wrong. He was torn between loyalty to Dutch and survival vs standing up for the right thing.
I actually like that John became more responsable after jack got kidnapped and realizes what he has in front of him because before he treated Abigail like shit and didn’t want Jack saying it wasn’t his and then you see him actually caring and mature
His opinion of Arthur becomes glowing as well due to his part in getting him back, it's real refreshing encountering him welcome you on your way back to camp at that point.
I like how John in this game goes from a young irresponsible shithead to a mature and caring father and loving husband.
Abigails a bitch.
@@IEatElephantss Yeah, i think Abigail was also very immature and didn't like motherhood. She even constantly blames John for making her pregnant with Jack.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 she really cares about Jack though. Which is her problem she *only* cares about Jack, anything bad that happens around him even if it's for a good reason (John helping the farm folk, killing Micah, etc) she'll make a big deal about it and it's so annoying
Hosea and Lenny were good people
Yes they were.
And Charles...
In reality they weren't. They killed people and robbed.
OgRyloc let’s try not to mention that pls
*Spoiler alert*
Hosea and Lenny were killed by Pinkertons thanked to Micah did who exposed informed to Pinkertons about Dutch plan to robbing Bank in Saint Denis then they set trap on Bank for target on gangs. Micah is Rat (traitor)
Red Dead Redemption 2 is doing a phenomenal job in making the player care about the character. Truly a masterpiece of a game.
Agreed 100%
Thats Rockstar for you
@@xgamerxg1277 making us sympathize with killers since 01
YES i do feel even a little bad for claude as much of a walnut man he is
I wish they paid MORE attention to this game than GTA they did an amazing job on this game
Milton has the superpower to houdini out of every cutscene
Leon Paelinck Except when Abigail holds the gun.
@@domengasperinii4443 indeed but that was still in a cutscene
Leon Paelinck I don't think we ever see him outside of cutscenes... Kind of like Cornwall, Milton never appears in gameplay.
@@domengasperinii4443 true. But at least we saw Cornwall ride off before we get control of Arthur. During Fleeting Joy Milton literaly vanished while still monologuing
Leon Paelinck He had plot armour.
Lenny died at the age of 19. So sad.
Stop commenting
It is.
It's the way of life he chose.
I'm 19 myself, so witnessing that & other moments like the intro to Battlefield 1 really get to ya
That’s young and his death was shocking and sad, I didn’t realise Lenny was that young i thought he was in his early to mid 20s. I wish they at least had a cutscene for Lenny when he died
I just realized: The advice that is given on several point in the game, "run away and never look back"... no one listens to it, and nearly every character dies after they DO look back. In this mission, both Lenny and Hosea die immediatly after looking back. It´s the same with Sean in chapter 3. At some point in the game, Mary Linton suggests that Arthur should run away with her and never look back, which he doesn´t, dooming himself in the process. Even Dutch and John Marston die this way in RDR1. Amazing storytelling.
Le Marin lenny should not have looked back
It was when Arthur tells John about running and never looking back at his past, but he went after Micah which Ross was able to track John from there causing the first game events to occur.
Arthur was already doomed the moment thomas downes spat in his face.
@@CatchTheMarmosets not necessarily.
People can survive TB for years if they refrain from severe exhaustion and a weakened immune system.
Given the physical strain placed on Arthur with being kidnapped by the O'Driscolls, exposure to several wounds and beatings and especially the events of Guarma aggravated his condition to the point of no return.
@@CatchTheMarmosets as someone else stated you could live 20 years with tb and not have it affect you.
13:33 “There’s gotta be a Rat!” - Micah
The one who ends up being the traitor is always the first to accuse there is one at all.
Micah was saying that but got interrupted in Dead Eye. HAHA
He was right though, he became rat after Guarma, the one before was never discovered
The rat was Abigail. How the hell did she slip away from the Pinkertons when Hosea got caught. Plus, why did they kill Hosea and Lenny but arrested John instead of killing him. Goes on to show that Abigail wanted John's life spared in exchange for information
After Hosea Died Dutch went Farther Into Madness
Big Boss after Hosea died Micah took advantage of Dutch’s vulnerability and position of power
With Rockstar... I always find that one mission in their games that just wows me. It doesn't need to be the most epic or action packed. It just needs to flow perfectly and deliver a moment that sticks. From the gung-ho attitude of the gang before riding off, to the explosion, to Milton showing up with Hosea, and the way it all turns around so fast... gone is the hope. Gone is that attitude. Desperation and loss set in. And that music... that intense, yet simple synth pulsing like an alarm as you open fire... very similar to the Paleto Scroe in GTA V, it just delivers that moment for me.
ChipJones421 if anything this mission actually tops the Paleto Score in pure wow factor as it has serious and shocking consequences for the story as a whole.
The real OG Noseybonk Without question. Paleto was more of the puncuation mark that this was GTA's return to its roots pre-GTA IV (which some felt... including me, felt like a departure from the tone of the franchise... which is not a bad thing but... I was always a fan of GTA's dark comedy and ability to go a bit balls to wall). Another good example is in Max Payne 3 during the airport shootout when Tears by HEALTH starts to play. It just perfectly captured the entire feel of the franchise... the song is basically Max's wife telling him to let her go, yet every situation Max is in (during the games) against impossible odds alone, can't because it all has stemmed from her death and he could never go back.
ChipJones421 I've never played Max Payne 3 before, I might give it a try at some point after Red Dead 2.
I honestly cannot decide, this mission is great, but there’s also the raid on the braithwaite manor, the ferry heist, the shootout in Lakay, and American Venom
Similarly green sabre in GTA San Andreas
Everyone Arthur trusted with his life went down in this one mission alone.
Hosea (his father) - shot
John (his brother) - arrested
Lenny (his son) - shot
Charles (his best friend) - distraction
True
Lenny being his son 💀
@@danim8414sounds kinda funny at first but if you think about it, Arthur had his son, Isaac, when he was only in his early twenties I believe and he's around 36/37 in the game. So, had isacc not died he wouldn't be that far off Lenny's age by now (19)
@@jakefitzsimons4245 Yes
@@jakefitzsimons4245I consider him his brother, same as John and Sean.
I have a plan, but I need money. All I need is your credit card number, expiration date, and the 3 numbers in the back.
but you gotta be quick, so that Dutch can get that victory Tahiti royale
I implore you
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"THIS IS WORSE THAN BLACKWATER!!!"--Bill
I guess its true. In black water they were shooting up streets. But in here they were trapped
@@simonsaura8138 nah there were 3 killed in blackwater (Jenny, and the calender brothers). And 1 sepereated (John)and 2 captured (Sean and mac). Blackwater seems to have gone a lot worse.
@@damianc669 I said that Blackwater is worse 😂
@@damianc669 you mentioned mac twice
@@simonsaura8138 dude, you were talking about how this is worse than blackwater, and now you're saying blackwater was worse?
You guys tried,but those guys are invincible until lenny dies
Glad i was reloading when they wasted him. Saved me the disappointment
Yeah I just headshot them lol
(Still alive)
No they can die in missions when you fail
I tried to go into deadeye way before they came out the door but I couldn’t shoot them
Lenny was such an idiot, he basically throwed himself into the bullets.
Lenny’s death didn’t even have a cutscene. It makes it seem more real but yet more heartbreaking.
When Dutch says "I love that Hosea, he is a true artist" just before they enter the bank, a few chords play that sound awfully similar to the ones that play when Hosea's corpse lies on the ground.
You’re right
So pretty much this was the Saint Denis Massacre 1899
Lemoyne National Bank Robbery of 1899
It was worse than blackwater
And the great saint Denis massacre will always go down in the history books as the worst bank robbery in the entire world i
@@keeganpacker9332
nobody will ever know what truly transpired in Blackwater because of its mystery. Too many people having too many accounts on the incident. One account that is true though, is that this is the first step of Dutch Van Der Linde toward his downfall.
@Sam Beckett a massacre doesn't need to take place on several streets to be a massacre. if a large gun battle ensues in one street that's only half a mile long, and 60 people are killed in that gunfight, it's a massacre.
At 11:29 Javier yelled 'Hosea... He isn't moving!" Javier was particularly close to Hosea. You can see this as he offers a handshake to Hosea in the mission where Arthur and Javier save John in Ambarino.
so? no one said anything like "javier didnt care about hosea" everyone cared about hosea in the gang, he was like a father to them all, everyone knows that javier and all the other gang members cared about hosea, i dont get the point of this comment
@@prska bro chill its just an observation
@@Andrew-dq3dy im not mad dude, i just dont get the comment's point, im not trying to be rude or something
@@prska if u don’t get it then it’s best to shut the fuck up and get outta here
@@patricioperez7323 Jesus Patricio who pissed in your cereal
It's weird how agent Milton and Ross just disappear
Ross pulled the same trick on John.
Cowards
They are no better than people they want kill.
@@ricknegan1663 They're just doing their jobs lmao
@@ricknegan1663 They like to be a rich man’s toy.
Everything that could've gone wrong in this robbery went wrong:
- The gang lost Hosea, an important part of it.
- Lenny, one of their youngest members, died.
- Arthur started to show active TB.
- John got arrested.
- Abigail got captured.
- Dutch, Arthur, Bill, Javier and Micah got stranded in the Caribbean for quite a few weeks.
A few weeks is logical, seeing how Arthur’s beard and hair grew during that time after the bank robbery
Pearson had no one to get meat for the gang😕
Abigail didnt get captured, she got away
Strauss couldn’t get anyone to do his loan sharking for him
Nah,Arthur began to look bad around Paradise Mercifully Departed,where you escape Guarma,his eyes begin to turn bloodshot and he begins to cough during the escape. Guarma was the nail in the coffin for him. If only the ship didn’t capsize.
I just realised something. In the first game you first go into Mexico in mission 25. In mission 25 in RDR2 you finish chapter 2 and go into the state of Lemoyne. Finishing the mission rewards you with a trophy called "To Greener Pastures". However, in the first game in the end of mission 25, Irish mentions wanting to seek greener pastures. Coincidence? I think not.
Edit: Thanks for the likes! :)
Ya probably didn't know this but your little theory got over 30+ likes :D
Hotel? Trivago
I swear I've seen irish's VA say he was in the game either now or possibly dlc later
Damm much detail
HappyGardevoir Hotel?Lumbago
The music in the background represents the anger of the gang in the moment of Hosea's death.
3:22 John might be the only one who saw the writing on the wall for this heist. As good as Hosea was at planning heists, Agent Milton knew the moment that Angelo Bronte died one of the banks he protected was going to be robbed. Notice how Dutch responds to John talking about being realistic. He’s throwing all rationality out the window and starting to say and do whatever he can to justify his actions
Hosea also was against this plan.
@@leonpaelinckWhat I never even realized until a recent replay was that Hosea didn’t even want to rob Cornwall in the first place, a major inciting incident in them even being over here getting shot to all hell after Valentine.
@@3headedsnake388 What is interesting about robbing Cornwall’s train is that it does not matter whether or not you kill or spare the train’s crew. The Van der Linde Gang is still connected with it. While there is no explanation given, I am willing to bet that the Pinkertons likely stumbled across the O’Driscoll camp while they were investigating, put two on two together and knew that it had to be Van der Linde (the bloody rivalry between the two gangs is already well known and they definitely knew that the gang had fled into Ambarino with the only reason for losing them was because of a blizzard). Hosea was right about robbing Cornwall, if anything, they reopened the trail on themselves and they opened it wide.
i agree with john
*TAHITI, ARTHUR*
HAVE SOME GODDAMN *F A I T H*
NOISE, ARTHUR!
WE NEED MONEY!
*TAHEETEE*
*TIMBUKTU?*
It should’ve been micah who died
Right
If only
Well I feel like he the one was talking
He does
He was the only person wearing fully white clothes so the Pinkertons won't shoot him.
Dutch's face after realizing Hosea was dead shows genuine shock and immediately after blind anger. and Rockstar did amazing at expressing emotions in this game.
Milton is stupid. Dutch has hostages inside! He could have killed them all in rage of losing his best friend
But dutch was a person who didn't kill innocent people
At least before... Spoiler Alert
He killed a woman in Guarma
@@The_StrangeMan Milton shouldn't take the risk. And even though he wouldn't actually kill them Dutch can still use them as leverage
@@ChewingGumFlavor yeah well but the game doesn't want it lol
@@The_StrangeMan The woman in guarma pulled a knife on the him though.
@@The_StrangeMan dutch already killed a innocent girl in blackwater robbery... And it was mentioned by the first encounter with the stranger in rdr1
There's definitely snitch in the gang otherwise train robbery, Blackwater massacre and this wouldn't happen.
They were easily found by the law.
Micah talks, the poor girl who was drunk got killed because that snake talked and she claimed. He probably convinced her that. I never liked Micah.
but it doesn't make sense that he rated them out on the bank job, Milton said they got to him after their Guarma adventures.
The bank job was just bad luck. Micah betrayed the gang after Guarma. And Molly was just drunk and wanted to die.
@@Romero-wy5sd Though with that knowledge in mind, it's not farfetched to think Micah had ratted on several people before Milton got to him.
@@lViperr ☹☹☹thanks butthead
I like how at 6:46 Micah says "This... this'd better work" right after Dutch tells them to wait for Hosea, and right after that John warns them about the guards, but Dutch criticises John about not having faith rather than Micah
Cause all dutch cares about is people completely sucking him off.
true never noticed that
He ratted them out after this
Micah also seemed to be worried about this mission at the start, asking about the Blackwater money. Everyone seemed to have doubts or be nervous about this large job.
Damn it why hosea and lenny. It hurts so much.
nobody survives even one bit -because then red dead redemption wouldn’t exist.
That's the way it is
Those two were my favorite
@@tanim.3578 whaaaat....people survive...sadie adler leaves, charles leaves, rains fall goes to Canada where the rest of the tribe resides, tilly has a family, reverend swanson makes it out, trelawny makes it out, mary beth writes books, uncle, john, abigail, jack. Theeeen you got Bill javier and doytch.
The Supreme Omega I’m talking about Lenny and Hosea.
Hosea wouldn't live that long, since he was coughing a lot lately. But Lenny... Young boy...
You sounds micah
@@benedictator4763 lol
Hosea was Dutch's second brain with his death the disaster was unstoppable,Lenny well, he was just too young for this.
Hosea actually had like 5 years to live so he still had time he even says this
@@trevorphilips9065 wassup T!
I hate Micah and his guts but his suit in the mission is damn nice
I know I'm a year late but I heard a theory that he was working with the Pinkertons the whole time and the suit was so they didnt shoot him. Not sure if I believe the theory but it's something to thing about.
@@maniacchicken7564 he ratted them out after guarma
Maniac Chicken7 that is what happens Milton probably was saying that Micah was more willing to help them after guarma. For all we now they could have been picking up Micah this whole time trying to get him to talk
@@maniacchicken7564 that theory is true he was working with the pinkertons and that leaded ro Arthur's death
@@maniacchicken7564 Micah only ratted the gang after Guarma, In the final mission, Milton would've said Micah was the reason of the disaster In Saint Denis.
I love how John wears the elegant suit from the 1st game when he robs the bank
I hate how you can't get it ingame though >:(
JJoa74 with a proper combination of clothes you can make it
Sarashi Xaenyth It wouldn’t be the same one though. It’s like with his damn hair since you can’t get the exact OG hairstyle for him.
@@Deathpool_04 thank God for pc mods.
Yeah i noticed that
This mission alone makes me want a DLC where Jack kills all of the surviving members of the Pinkertons that took part in the downfall of the Van Der Linde Gang
He did when he killed Ross.
Yiğithan Kaya he only killed Ross but didn't kill the other Pinkertons that were there putting pressure on the gang
He won’t. He personally only had a grudge against Edgar Ross.
Also, by 1914, there were no more pinkertons
After Hosea died, I actually didnt cover, I went up straight to them 😠
When Milton killed Hosea, it kind of reminded me of when the Governor killed Hershel on The Walking Dead.
I tried barging out the door but I couldn't
Calm down son
me 2..
I straight died when i did your Idea
10:30 the look at Dutch's face was heartbreaking... He was the one who didn't like this plan.
A truly shocking turn of events
The only thing that cause this plan to fall apart is micah
@@rtgedits1865 Micah didn’t rat the gang out until after this
yeah the one time hosea makes a plan that goes wrong it gets killed still it wouldnt have happend if they didnt go after bronde (yeah i messed up the name i know)
@@rtgedits1865 Somehow, it was Micah.
15:53 "What, I'm dead? Ah, man! Mack, can you believe this?"
King Jules loloololololololololololol9lol
The fact that Dutch was the most nervous is a great detail in the game
Right, if only he listened to his gut as I'm sure his instincts were telling him to avoid trying this big job. At least for now as they hadn't long killed off Bronte which no doubt got attention quickly.
@@xxmaddiegirlxx2000 yeah i like to thing that was the good part off dutch shining thought ironic how the one plan that dutch didnt make is the one that destroyed the gang the most still it aint hoseas fault if they didnt go after bronte they prabably would have been fine
@@heliax9924 Tell me you didn't lay attention to the story without telling me you didn't pay attention to the story.
No, they wouldn't be fine, they would be in even deeper shit.
This mission had the feel of a final mission. Just epic.
And tragic
Fam who else went all out with their guns and ammo not caring for accuracy after two of the best characters in the game got killed off?!
I shot everyone so many times and when I ran out of people a shot up corpses
16:36 i know you're trying to save lenny from getting shot
As you should
@@crr311sux5 i tried my best i couldnt save him.. fuck the pinkertons
@@fumzicles It is what it is
Fun details about this mission:
At 6:57 the gaurds in front of the bank are probably pinkertons given their black clothing and hats, especially since the guard inside is in the usual blue outfit.
At 9:31 The gang takes off their masks as the pinkertons already know them.
At 9:41 Ross is behind milton like the lap dog he is and is also cowering behind the wagon while everyone else is somewhat open (even milton had more confidence than him)
At 9:59 Micah mouths something. I'm not good at reading lips but I believe he just says fuck.
At 10:01 John and Lenny have the worst cover in the building. Right in front of the glass front door that would be a bitch to get out of cover from.
At 10:22 you can hear a tiny bit of TB Arthur when he says "Goddamn it!" You can hear the mucus/blood in his voice he normally gets after coughing or, as shown here, yelling.
At 10:28 blood pouring out of his nose.
At 10:31 that is actually Arthurs breathing, not Dutch, as it can be heard as Dutch is talking. Just shows how PISSED Arthur is at the moment.
At 10:57 you can hear Arthur say "kill those sons of bitches!" What he actually says can change but it is always very pissed and involves "kill them!" This is one of arthurs most heated moments and is also one of the only times he cares about "revenge" (though it is only for a few seconds and out of pure anger and adrenaline [hardly revenge rather than just a gun fight]).
At 16:35 Arthur voice cracks. Whether this is intentional idk, but I like to believe it is as people voice crack a lot when screaming like this.
At 16:55 everyone knows the "Micah and Bill didnt stop" thing, but Dutch stops further and signals Arthur "What the hell are you doing we gotta go!"
At 17:22 This is one of the last times Dutch has Arthur as 2nd place in a formation like this, on horse or otherwise. Later Micah is put in 2nd as Arthur slowly gets pushed to the back (you cannot pass Micah/Dutch fully in formation in chapter 6 [for horses])
At 18:53 Dutch, or more specifically Ben, takes the chair. He had a chair in the studio that he wouldnt let anyone else sit it and it was his chair, I like to think he is doing that right here and they just let it happen.
19:27 Funny Arthur :)
I wonder if that pinkerton outside the bank noticed the van der linde gang
@@MrCheerio1st he probably did, and when the explosion happened, told milton and the rest that they were inside the bank.
Pinkertons already knew the gang was gonna hit the bank interesting catch
@@thebruh1883 they already knew the gangs next move creepy if you think about it
And at 6:48 you can see two men riding black American standard bred horses. Only pinkertons and some lawmen are seen riding those.
The fact that Lenny's death is the most watched part of this video is just heartbreaking 😭 that just shows how many of us love Lenny and tried so hard to save him 😭
I wanted this robbery to really go well for the gang. This was without a doubt an insanely intense mission. Bullets flying, Hosea & Lenny dead. Talk about immensely chaotic.
I knew this was a make or break moment and sadly the latter case happened.
16:36 *NO!!! LENNY!!!*
Dutch! they got lenny...
@@happygardevoir4345 Oh, goddamn then!
I literally screamed when they shot Lenny... and apologize to him. TT A TT
Lucas Martínez Parra we cant stop arthur or we are all dead
Lucas Martínez Parra Arthur kicks the gates of hell(or heaven open) haha! Found ya Lenny!!
If Uncle didn’t have Lumbago he’d be able to do the bank robbery by himself
16:34 He tried saving Lenny before he got shot :(
18:53 Dutch is such a selfish jerk that he forces Charles out of the chair.
This bothered me so much when I first saw it
Well dutch is the leader it makes sense
@@novagenesis0116 well I mean Dutch is the leader. Dutch would have told anyone to move, and they would have done it.
that actually wasnt the part of script. dutch's actor always had his own special chair for himself and in this scene, charles' actor was sitting on it, so dutch's actor removed him lol
This mission was emotional in so many ways, how Dutch says "Hosea" after him being shot and killed you felt that disbelief and anger boil over you like you were right there with them. The hell strom of bullets that comes after is just satisfying
I actually tought Charles was sacrificing his life when he distracted the guards. But he actually saved himself from being trapped between a war lol
If only rockstar give us the option to save Lenny😢
If Lenny survived John would have to hunting him down in RDR1 (1911)
John Donovan Technically no since he would’ve had to hunt down Pearson and Charles and Sadie etc.
@@lysol.3987 Pearson is a cook, Sadie went to Brazil and Charles went to Canada. The FBI has no power on those countries
John Donovan so they have power in Mexico and not Canada?
Edit: The FBI have sub divisions in place around the world and could easily have field agents track down wanted men and women in other countries and continents for that matter
@@lysol.3987 What are you talking about it? They have no power on Mexico. Why the fuck do you think that Ross was waiting for John in the border on the U.S. side?
10:17 This is when Dutch goes completely mental and loses his mind.
Hosea was like a father to Arthur, Lenny was like a son to Arthur 😭😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺🥺
10:20
In the back under the wagon behind Hosea you can see mr moron and mr Ross the cowards walk away
UA-cam Support you mean my men
Mr shithead* not Ross
Lenny any Hosea dies...
Oh Pinkertons I feel bad.
Time to activate John wick mode...
RTX: ON
SICKO MODE: ON
DUAL WIELD: ON
Two more lost fall gang
Hosea No!
Lenny!
Why the Good guys die.And john being arrested be couse he looking for abigail.
"Gentlemen . . . robbing thieves, it ain't no crime at all. Folks like this . . . they stole what this country could have been."
My favorite Dutch quote
Where everything starts to go wrong.
No ,it was in blackwater ferry job
@@pedro.k0293 But after this, after this was the final chapter. It all went downhill and there was no coming back.
pedro. k02 no, this is when stuff went REALLY wrong
"Arthur, Come on!"
"No, I want to kill more."
18:54 Just in case if you're still doubt whether Dutch is the worst leader, the guy just shoos Charles off the chair so he can take it for himself.
Hosea and lenny were good men. They will both be missed
The saddest part was that lenny was only 19. He barely had a chance to live
Micah being in a different color suit as everyone else is so perfect. There’s a similar thing when they’re on Guarma. That was the point where I figured Micah was undermining the rest of the gang
You can hear John in the background worried sick about Abigail. Chapter 4 was the turning point in his relationship with her and Jack.
16:35 and you clearly shot that guy first😭😭
I did that too.
26:04 Just to mention how good Micah's voice actor played his role, the way he says, 'I ain't no sailor but' then a natural badass cough, man he actually got into his character.
He would just be called an actor not a voice actor cause he did full performance capture for Micah
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u yeah 'Actor' is the accurate term for video game voice actors.
Micah’s voice actor is Peter Blomquist
11:30 ”Hosea...he isn’t moving” .....Yeah, no shit Javier.
Funny how in both games the 57th mission is where everything falls apart.
Somehow I knew this was gonna be the best mission of this game. And it kept its promise.
Best and the worst too
16:34 that "plot armour" killed Lenny
This game gets better and better
I love how Milton and Ross just Vanish out of thin Air
The music in this is so strong
Rdr2 soundtracks almost beats gta 5 soundtracks
Notice how Dutch is rarely involved in a heist, but every time he is, it goes to shit.
The first train robbery goes smooth but it triggers Cornwall and Milton, so in the end dooms them
10:30 Dude,That "Hosea"... was so damn sad
OMGGGGG I've been following this like a TV show for about a week now....I'm so pisssssseeed Lenny and Hosea wtf
It may run poorly on my Ps5, but god, this sound track is making it go in the Air
14:12 This game's facial expression details are too damn good.
L.A Noire he's my kid there!
It’s all mo cap
Did anyone noticed that everyones suit matches their honor
Arthur= Blue (High Honor)
Dutch= Red (Low Honor)
John= Blue (High Honor)
Charles= Blue (High Honor)
Micah= Red (Low Honor)
Hosea= Blue (High Honor)
Javier= Gray (Neutral Honor)
Lenny= Blue (High Honor)
Bill= Gray (Neutral Honor)
Micah wears a dark red vest concealed beneath a bright white and golden suit, which is symbolic of the fact that Micah decided to wear a dark red vest concealed beneath a bright white and golden suit.
@@StitchPen Allso the reason Micah is wearing a white suit is to stand out from the rest who are wearing a darker clothes. Because he was the rat so that they don’t accidentally kill him and you can see him looking around for Pinkerton agents.
@@dujegreat6941He wasn’t the rat during this heist. There was no rat yet by this point
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u Watch the video again and you can see him looking around for Pinkerton agents and during the shootout ironically he says they have a rat. Plus when riding to the bank he is constantly asking about the escape plan.
@@dujegreat6941 Milton would have said if Micah was the rat by this point
When Lenny died, I was waiting to see the “Mission Failed” screen…
Thanks to this video I officially got every gold medal in chapter IV thanks a ton 🙏
First Hosea, now *_YNNEL!?!?_*
This mission in particular reminded me of a song lyric “what a mess we made when it all went wrong”
Witch song is that?
Actually the whole game is like that song. And the songs name is nuclear from mgs v
@@jackkreanxx2935Man someone should make a gmv
I swear Dutch outfits are the cleanest in this game and his bandanna should’ve been in online
"I left the gang after the gang left me"
I love this mission how everyone is panicking because Hosea got killed and how they need to focus on shooting. Love this mission
Hosea's death shocked me, made my mouth drop and scream "HOSEA!" it was so sad and Dutch's reaction was depressing. When Lenny was about to die, i was terrified and quickly activated Dead Eye to headshot the two guys, but i didn't realise that they were invincible before Lenny dies, i screamed when my head shots didn't work and Lenny got shot "NOO! LENNY! THAT WAS A HEADSHOT THE GUYS, IT DIDN'T WORK!", i killed those two guys after he dies, i loved that kid man, especially after that drinking mission in the beginning, he was so young.. R.I.P Lenny. R.I.P Hosea.
This mission made me not even want to finish the game. Sean’s was sudden and angered me. Kieran’s was so haunting and traumatizing to me and at this point I knew, it was gonna get worse. Hosea’s and Lenny’s was the last straw. Eventually, I went back to finish the game, but the deaths stuck with me. 10/10 game, one of the best.
@@doc2058 true, easily one of the best stories too.
Charles is a real tough guy. I think he is worth of a game on his own.
16:31 it’s really cool how this game just switches your gun for no reason at all, so realistic 😃
It doesn’t count towards the gold medal requirements though since the guy moved to his volcanic pistol
A couple of things I noticed was that Hosea turned to face Milton as he walked away, likely thinking the agent would shoot him in the back regardless of what he did.
Maybe but maybe not. Milton waited to shoot Hosea because it was dishonorable to shoot someone in the back back then
I still miss sean, kieran, Lenny, hosea even arthur
6:12 badass spaghetti western cinematography right there. Looks straight out of an oldschool Tarantino movie
That theory about Dutch being changed by a head injury during the tram crash in Saint Denis really does hold water, he's so indecisive while Hosea lays out the plan for the bank job, which was so unlike him up to this point.