Maximilian_Dood's Reacting to Tim & Geoff Follin's music for the first time!

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  • Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
  • First of all I want to clarify, I don't get money for this video. I just really wanted to archive this in some way for people to actually see, because it's so worth it. I waited long enough and it doesn't seem like Max is interested in posting any of this clips in his main channel, so I decided to edit the best parts of this VOD for you, his reactions and chatting about the topic are priceless.
    Some of the highlights are Plok! (SNES), Solstice (NES), Pictionary (NES), Spider-Man and X-MEN in Arcade's revenge (SNES) & Silver Surfer (NES).
    Also if you want to see the full VOD, here's the link to it, there's even more stuff that I don't show here, like Max playing some of the games that has Tim and Geoff's music in it.
    Also him and his crew (Yovideogames) played some games in other stream too, that was the stream that made me notice they acknowledge Tim.
    Max reacting to Tim Follin (12/02/2021): www.twitch.tv/...
    Max and Yovideogames playing games with Tim Follin music (12/05/2021): www.twitch.tv/...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 769

  • @Thiagomii
    @Thiagomii  8 місяців тому +564

    I can't believe this happened.... RIP Geoff Follin, you did some of the best retro tunes ever, you would be remembered as the legend that you are. I feel so bad for Tim right know, I hope for the best to him and Geoff's family.

    • @crumblechef205
      @crumblechef205 8 місяців тому +38

      I had just came back to check this video out randomly and this is the first I've seen of the news.. That's incredibly sad to hear, all the best to the family and friends of Geoff Follin. Rest in peace to a legend.

    • @modh8ta500
      @modh8ta500 8 місяців тому +9

      I heard his death in a Plok Longplay in World of Longplays.

    • @blondafro4112
      @blondafro4112 8 місяців тому +1

      Plok is a good game

    • @pigfish99
      @pigfish99 8 місяців тому +16

      Pancreatic cancer is a bitch. :

    • @MasterZebulin
      @MasterZebulin 7 місяців тому +1

      Aww goddamnit, he's dead!?

  • @53Spawn
    @53Spawn 11 місяців тому +1162

    "CALM DOWN TIM! ITS JUST PICTIONARY!"

    • @goukenslay7555
      @goukenslay7555 11 місяців тому +11

      Best comment from that video

    • @Lost_n_Found_1
      @Lost_n_Found_1 10 місяців тому +10

      @@goukenslay7555 And they were just repeating a comment from 15 years ago, lol

    • @Bro-cx2jc
      @Bro-cx2jc 10 місяців тому

      "AIN'T NO CALM IN THESE DRUMBEATS MUTHAFUKKA!"

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 10 місяців тому +9

      ​@@Lost_n_Found_1it's likely a sentiment repeated again and again through the ages

    • @Lost_n_Found_1
      @Lost_n_Found_1 10 місяців тому +2

      @@BJGvideos Eggs Zachary

  • @cikame
    @cikame 11 місяців тому +1443

    "Ok Tim here's the NES sound chip it can go bloop bleep bloop, see what you can do"
    Tim: *Hardcore electronica and guitar solos*

    • @Minority119
      @Minority119 11 місяців тому +151

      "okay tim, this is the sega genesis chip, it's... rough and sounds like farts, but we'll pay you for your services"
      tim follin: *straight rock opera with metal riffs*
      *game gets cancelled anyway*

    • @nore5888
      @nore5888 11 місяців тому +33

      If you want something thats also crazy for the nes/famicom listen to Death Match from Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei II

    • @Oscar97o
      @Oscar97o 11 місяців тому +41

      @@Minority119 The issue with the Megadrive isn't its sound chip, it's the set of samples the dev kits came with. They were terrible and most games used them for their music.

    • @sonicphoenix7
      @sonicphoenix7 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Oscar97oGEMS

    • @thomasffrench36
      @thomasffrench36 11 місяців тому +6

      @@Minority119wow Genesis hate is crazy

  • @sprankton
    @sprankton 11 місяців тому +1396

    Tim Follin composed a whole country song to go with a licensed racing game that came free with breakfast cereal. He did not care what he was working on. He went as hard as he could no matter what.

    • @sprankton
      @sprankton 11 місяців тому +45

      @coldsnap5742 Ford Racing 2, but he was apparently only a co composer with Bjorne Lynn on that.

    • @chaxinitus
      @chaxinitus 11 місяців тому +16

      ​@@spranktonI know of Bjorne Lynm strictly because of a song I used to hear all the time as hold music at an old job, hearing about him in context with the Follin Brothers is fucking wild, haha

    • @TheOneFlyron
      @TheOneFlyron 11 місяців тому +3

      That's what I don't like about his soundtracks. He doesn't care about the game. IMO he should've.

    • @xiaolin867
      @xiaolin867 11 місяців тому +24

      ​​@@TheOneFlyron >Tim didn't care about the game he composed for, therefore the music is... le bad!
      That's basically your comment. What an absolutely horrendous opinion

    • @Asterra2
      @Asterra2 11 місяців тому +18

      There was that one time he composed a seven minute intro tune for a miserably bad beat 'em up based on a barely-known comic. It had deliberately suggestive lyrics, sung in a deliberately over the top way. Yet the song oozes musical merit. It's calculatingly prog rock-certainly Tim Follin's go-to genre. It has three solos in a row: electric guitar, flute, synth. The game itself almost didn't get released, and then only as a pack-in for something else equally unwanted. The tune was also a little bit corrupted on the game pressing. I fixed it up and added it to my playlist.

  • @Go_away_loser
    @Go_away_loser 11 місяців тому +1179

    The saddest part is that Tim said he stopped making music for video games because he was so underpaid and stressed out.
    Makes me wish someone would hire him again for a big budget game. I bet he’d kill it. The dude clearly understands theming.

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 11 місяців тому +24

      Yeah

    • @madeupfred
      @madeupfred 11 місяців тому +74

      He's good at making music but none of what he makes is used thematically appropriately.

    • @Zadamanim
      @Zadamanim 11 місяців тому +40

      Big budget games pay their employees even worse than indie games sometimes lol, a lot of the budget goes into stuff like renting out a motion capture studio and marketing. Plus the big budget studios often are located in expensive areas, so you end up broke working for companies like Blizzard lol.

    • @PingerSurprise
      @PingerSurprise 11 місяців тому +24

      If I could I'd make a simple and cool 90s themed racing game where his music would be the focus, and all the money would go to him because he deserves it.

    • @CGFillertext
      @CGFillertext 10 місяців тому +26

      Go play At Dead of Night! It’s a horror FMV game that Tim made, and it’s amazing!

  • @n-aera
    @n-aera 11 місяців тому +742

    TIM FOLLIN COMPOSED THIS IN A CAVE.
    WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS.

    • @t.b.cont.
      @t.b.cont. 9 місяців тому +41

      He was also in highschool/college and did this part time for extra cash, and stopped to pursue a career in BBC. He did make his own game a few years ago though called At Dead Of Night, it’s a horror game with an interesting mix of having a lot of live action visuals

    • @bekoblast
      @bekoblast 9 місяців тому +28

      he is tony stark of video game music industry

    • @TheTieflingsAdvocate
      @TheTieflingsAdvocate 5 місяців тому +10

      I'm sorry, but we're not Tim Follin...

    • @Thomaskh7
      @Thomaskh7 4 місяці тому +4

      im sorry...im not tim follin......

    • @jammogunpla
      @jammogunpla 2 місяці тому +1

      @@t.b.cont.oh shit he made that? that game’s really good, kinda want to see what a game he’d make that he could actually use his compositional talent in would be like

  • @tjreardon8495
    @tjreardon8495 11 місяців тому +1978

    His music deserved better games

    • @kgibby
      @kgibby 11 місяців тому +297

      He's the only guy to make me want to play pictionary.

    • @pantyosashu8137
      @pantyosashu8137 11 місяців тому +204

      How dare you say that about Plok?!

    • @Kane917
      @Kane917 11 місяців тому +206

      Plok's a masterpiece

    • @PeptoAbismol
      @PeptoAbismol 11 місяців тому +61

      silver surfer is fun if you hate yourself :^)

    • @AlmostAeroGauge
      @AlmostAeroGauge 11 місяців тому

      Plok was fantastic, you silly cunt.

  • @TheStann
    @TheStann 11 місяців тому +231

    Most composers were making music for video games, Tim thought he was auditioning for a prog band.

  • @olliezoop
    @olliezoop 11 місяців тому +205

    Tim Follin out here composing a beach theme in 7/8 time
    Nobody knew how to tickle the sound chip like this guy

    • @NightmareZerogbs
      @NightmareZerogbs 5 місяців тому +15

      Oh he didn't tickle it, he made sweet, sweet love to it, with candle lights and soft music and all

  • @Tarkus_H
    @Tarkus_H 11 місяців тому +285

    That Solstice theme is like "Oh, we'll just start with some happy-go-lucky Dragon Quest bgm," and then suddenly a Yes album comes in and smacks you upside the head.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 10 місяців тому +14

      Wasn't Yes one of Uematsu's influences too?

    • @mr.j3rs3y
      @mr.j3rs3y 9 місяців тому +23

      @@BJGvideos Both Tim and Uematsu were heavily inspired by Prog Rock so I wouldn’t be surprised if they both had Yes inspirations.

    • @bits_byte_
      @bits_byte_ Місяць тому

      not a Yes reference!

  • @bazzjedimaster
    @bazzjedimaster 11 місяців тому +300

    First half of Plok!'s boss theme = "Oh no I'm locked with them!!"
    Second half of the theme when the beat drops = "No, they are locked in here with me"

    • @michelvanderlinden8363
      @michelvanderlinden8363 11 місяців тому +19

      I mean, have you seen Plok when he has his angry face up? God might show mercy but he doesn't.

    • @Brainwave101
      @Brainwave101 9 місяців тому +10

      First half: graveyard dance party
      Second half: *_"Do you like hurting other people?"_*

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 7 місяців тому

      Facts

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 7 місяців тому

      ​@@michelvanderlinden8363it takes NO PRISONERS

  • @ganymede4030
    @ganymede4030 11 місяців тому +546

    Dude the Pictionary theme has no business going that hard what the hell 😂

    • @Hyperbeaner
      @Hyperbeaner 11 місяців тому +1

      ITS JUST PICTIONARY! 😂

    • @tanall5959
      @tanall5959 10 місяців тому +19

      Tim and Geoff have only two settings: Sleep and WTF

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 7 місяців тому

      ​@@tanall5959facts

  • @ultimamage3
    @ultimamage3 11 місяців тому +528

    There's a reason the playlist for Tiim's music is called "Tim Follin is a God".

  • @flmalegre
    @flmalegre 11 місяців тому +100

    _"it was just Pictionary, Tim."_

  • @VertexTuner
    @VertexTuner 11 місяців тому +445

    Tim Follin, on raw sound generation hardware, was the king of mid-call interrupts, allowing a single channel output to seemingly play two notes at the same time, filling out the sound with a 'power chord' without wasting more of the limited channels available. His greatest use of this trick and the first to show his amazing coding skills was his work with the Sinclair ZX Spectrum.
    ZX Spectrum 48k - Chronos - Title Screen. Tim Follin composed a seeming multi channel song with percussion on a single channel 1BIT BEEPER! It is pure magic what he pulled off. Also Agent X on Spectrum. When you compare his work with other ZX Spectrum 48k 1bit beeper music, it's simply beyond their level. Not to be confused with 128k ZX Spectrum music (LED Storm was a 128k track), those used an AY chip which was much more versatile in sound generation with 3 channels. To show the level of difference in the beeper and the AY chip, 'Short Circuit' 48k version vs 128k version, which was also composed by a capable programmer in Fred Gray but his 48k version, while sounding good, has noticeable interrupts between each note while Follin's stuff is the work of digital wizardry that defies the hardware.
    For clarification, the 1Bit Beeper can literally and physically ONLY play 1 note at a time, with limited tonal ranges and no volume control.
    (edited for spelling errors).

    • @caseyogden7105
      @caseyogden7105 11 місяців тому +23

      was going to the comments to say something similar, seriously it is the most a 1 bit beeper can do and it is soooo good

    • @MARCOSHAK100
      @MARCOSHAK100 11 місяців тому +9

      My dude grabbed that one chip and made sweet sweet love giving birth to the best 8/16bit music ever

    • @Asterra2
      @Asterra2 11 місяців тому +11

      The irony about the 1-bit ZX Spectrum music is that they're easier on the ears if they've been recorded to tape, as that has the effect of softening the _extreme_ sibilance. Most renditions on UA-cam are straight emulated and digitally perfect, which unfortunately means they're as harsh to the ears as it can possibly get. Incidentally, somebody on UA-cam figured out how to separate the individual voices that were mixed for those 1-bit tunes. The only step left after that is to reiterate those individual voices so that instead of tiny 1-bit pulses they are something synthesized, analog and easy on the ears.

    • @duncansnowden6857
      @duncansnowden6857 11 місяців тому +5

      Came here to say the same. You can't talk about Tim without mentioning his work on the Spectrum (and the C64; infinitely more musical by default, but he made it *sing*).

    • @jessragan6714
      @jessragan6714 10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah. I think I heard Chronos done with a PC beeper, and he somehow got music... music, out of that. The terrible shrieking speaker that lets out awful beeps to tell you your computer's messed up on boot. I was sitting there thinking, "That almost approaches a melody! But HOW?"

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 11 місяців тому +622

    That Silver Surfer theme is legendary, it even made a pretty infamous Guitar Hero custom because the solo is so good and the final few seconds of it are SO INSANELY FAST.
    EDIT: Just FYI it's 6:56 to 7:00 and it's probably about like 30 notes per second
    EDIT 2: After about an hour of trying, I hit the solo. Mom are you proud of me yet.

    • @ArispeMatt
      @ArispeMatt 11 місяців тому +23

      If the Silver Surfer game went as hard as some of the music, it'd be a TAS only game.

    • @striderhanzo
      @striderhanzo 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ArispeMatt Or a Game Genie game.

    • @ArispeMatt
      @ArispeMatt 11 місяців тому +11

      @@striderhanzo It's not the tool assist most people mean when they say TAS,, but it's still technically a tool assisting.
      :p

    • @Hyperbeaner
      @Hyperbeaner 11 місяців тому

      Never played it but the song is in my video game music playlist. Its just so good

    • @TheGreatKingChiba
      @TheGreatKingChiba 11 місяців тому +5

      Silver Surfer was one of my first games as a kid... it's not that bad, it's just tons of memorization.
      I feel most people that can memorize Souls-like boss fight patterns can easily memorize the few tricky areas each level has.

  • @MrVonTouchdown
    @MrVonTouchdown 11 місяців тому +287

    Solstice misdirect goes so hard

    • @snowflakepillow8697
      @snowflakepillow8697 11 місяців тому +21

      Pokey battle in Earthbound but on the Title Screen...

    • @Arkouchie
      @Arkouchie 5 місяців тому +3

      I love that Max calls it out too, he knows it's coming and he's still blown away.

  • @fm_am4n
    @fm_am4n 8 місяців тому +102

    Rest in peace, Geoff. You and Tim were a dynamic duo making banger after banger.

  • @chriscombs21886
    @chriscombs21886 11 місяців тому +382

    ~22:10 "genesis does not have good audio"
    tim: * smirk *

    • @esmooth919
      @esmooth919 11 місяців тому +88

      Anybody that thinks that has never heard a Sonic the Hedgehog soundtrack, a Streets of Rage soundtrack, or a Vectorman soundtrack.
      Man, even the QuackShot soundtrack is good!
      Never sleep on a good composer.

    • @juststatedtheobvious9633
      @juststatedtheobvious9633 11 місяців тому +7

      Devilish: Prairie Theme.

    • @rocoX1234
      @rocoX1234 11 місяців тому +55

      People think genesis had shit audio is due to soa and american developers using GEMS for composing the music.

    • @juststatedtheobvious9633
      @juststatedtheobvious9633 11 місяців тому +35

      @@rocoX1234 Dune 2, Earthworm Jim, and Comix Zone prove GEMS was just fine if you gave the sound team enough time to learn how to use it.
      Most multiplat developers just used the sample instruments provided with the program.

    • @Saxdude26
      @Saxdude26 11 місяців тому +7

      I love how Max immediately ate his own words. And HAPPILY so.

  • @DJackson747
    @DJackson747 11 місяців тому +327

    Textbook definition of "did not need to go that hard"

    • @bloodyidit4506
      @bloodyidit4506 10 місяців тому +7

      if there is something life taught me,
      going hard is the only way to go.

  • @primecoconut4204
    @primecoconut4204 11 місяців тому +219

    Literally ascended when Spider Man and the X-Men played, Tim went in haaaard

    • @pirajacinto4
      @pirajacinto4 11 місяців тому +37

      Gotta say though, if you were handed this game and went "Yo, make a song for SPIDER-MAN", I'm sure he was ready to kill it even more than he ever did before!

    • @XerosigmaZ
      @XerosigmaZ 11 місяців тому +14

      Literally listened to the whole soundtrack a few times 2 weeks ago then this video popped up. Thank you for uploading! I love Tim

  • @YawleyG
    @YawleyG 11 місяців тому +253

    Tim Follin also did the OST for Ecco: Defender of the Future, and it's one of my favorites.

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому +29

      Max listened to the Title Theme of that game also in the stream! ;)

    • @YawleyG
      @YawleyG 11 місяців тому +7

      @@Thiagomii Oh, noice, I must have scanned past it. Thank you!

    • @dragons_hook
      @dragons_hook 11 місяців тому +6

      It's fucking incredible. Like, almost every theme fits that game perfectly.

  • @metalgamerjonny6410
    @metalgamerjonny6410 11 місяців тому +38

    every time someone discovers tim follins music, an angel gets their wings

  • @cuno6118
    @cuno6118 11 місяців тому +201

    I’m a max fan, and a huge Tim Follin fan, I never knew this happened lmao. This is so awesome

  • @rubberwoody
    @rubberwoody 11 місяців тому +59

    I once heard someone liken the NES sound chip to "a wooden block, 2 chanting monks, and a triangle"
    and they did this with it

  • @RetroMatter
    @RetroMatter 11 місяців тому +193

    Tim Follin, Chris Huelsbeck and Olof Gustafsson are composer legends of 8/16 bit era. It's fascinating that these simple by today's standards songs still evoke emotion.

    • @sod0m
      @sod0m 11 місяців тому +27

      Absolutely all legends, but you forgot to put Jeroen Tel in there.

    • @Rysuko1
      @Rysuko1 11 місяців тому +11

      Thumbs up for mentioning Chris Huelsbeck

    • @blahdelablah
      @blahdelablah 11 місяців тому +20

      You're missing quite a few other legends off that list, including Rob Hubbard and David Wise.

    • @Minority119
      @Minority119 11 місяців тому +8

      I always find it curious how you can tell they're european composers because even in systems like the NES and such they still make it sound like an amiga chip

    • @blahdelablah
      @blahdelablah 11 місяців тому +8

      @Minority119 You're right. The C64 and the Amiga were both platforms that many European chiptune artists cut their teeth on and many composing tricks used to push the SID chip (in the C64) and the Paula chip (in the Amiga) worked on other 8/16 bit platforms too. As an example, the use of fast arpeggios to approximate the sounds of chords.

  • @Smokron
    @Smokron 11 місяців тому +121

    I feel like every gamer eventually goes down a Tim Follin rabbit hole. I'm happy it finally happened for you Max. I wish I remembered where I was when I first heard the Solstice opening theme haha

    • @rygar8bit2
      @rygar8bit2 11 місяців тому +8

      My cousin got it Christmas 1990, that's when I heard it first.

    • @flmalegre
      @flmalegre 11 місяців тому +14

      "Ah yes, a jaunty little tune for a wizard happily picking herbs on the forest, how quaint.
      SIKE, YOU HAVE THE POWER OF AEONS AT YOUR HANDS, SORCEROR!!!!!!"

  • @joshuanagatoshi9081
    @joshuanagatoshi9081 11 місяців тому +33

    I think his work on the ZX spectrum will always be impressive. Like who looks at the audio capabilities of the spectrum and says, I think I can make this play the firebird suite? Tim Fn’ Follin that’s who! 😂

  • @Hatsworthful
    @Hatsworthful 11 місяців тому +57

    Tim's music work can be boils down to "either this goes hard or goes HARDEST"

  • @Beenkman1997
    @Beenkman1997 8 місяців тому +45

    Rest in peace, Geoff. You and Tim made banger after banger.

  • @albinkarlsson9943
    @albinkarlsson9943 10 місяців тому +19

    It nice that every Tim follin album came a free game.

  • @Atrahasis7
    @Atrahasis7 11 місяців тому +137

    The stuff he did is very prog rock. Hence why they sound like they take you in a journey. Very based.

    • @PacDork
      @PacDork 11 місяців тому +13

      Folin is the Rush of video games!

  • @PacDork
    @PacDork 11 місяців тому +36

    I love that people are discovering Plok. I’ve been singing its praises since it came out. It’s the single most amazing musical achievement on the SNES, IMO. It’s a fantastic platformer as well!

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 7 місяців тому +1

      It was our first SNES game we got

  • @Thiagomii
    @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому +453

    Changed the title to "Tim & Geoff Follin" because some of the tracks Max listened are probably from Geoff too (Brother of Tim), but it's just a guess, both are at the same level of quality!
    PS: Max in later streams started mentioning "Tim and his brother" when talking about the music ;)

    • @Saxdude26
      @Saxdude26 11 місяців тому +14

      Those brothers work wonders with every soundtrack opportunity they get. They alongside Matt Furniss are underdogs of 90s music composition.

    • @oBuLLzEyEo1013
      @oBuLLzEyEo1013 11 місяців тому +2

      What's PD mean...?

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому +3

      @@oBuLLzEyEo1013 Post Script, I thought it was the same as Spanish (Post Data).

    • @oBuLLzEyEo1013
      @oBuLLzEyEo1013 11 місяців тому +4

      @@Thiagomii Ooh I know post script I had never heard PD before. Spanish, huh? Well I'm Texmex so naturally I don't speak eat I just eat it...

    • @banonKING
      @banonKING 10 місяців тому +1

      Hah! Are you kids just discovering Tim Follin's game music?! For shame.

  • @shahs1221
    @shahs1221 11 місяців тому +158

    Now imagine Tim Follin composing for a fighting game. HOLY!

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 11 місяців тому +3

      Yeah!!!!!

    • @budakbaongsiah
      @budakbaongsiah 11 місяців тому +4

      IIRC he did for Sega CD

    • @classicboy97
      @classicboy97 9 місяців тому +5

      I wish someone made an MVC1 demake for the SNES and inserted the Spider-Man / X-men Arcade’s Revenge themes for the characters minus Wolverine for clown reasons lol

    • @AkaShindou2
      @AkaShindou2 9 місяців тому +2

      I want him to be a guest composer for a future FFXIV track...

  • @megamandrn001
    @megamandrn001 11 місяців тому +63

    "Pre-Todd MacFarlane Spider- man was a creeper!" THANK YOU Max. As usual, Max gets it

  • @Crit-Chance
    @Crit-Chance 11 місяців тому +26

    Apparently for Pictionary, he used like half of the watchamacallits he had available to him, so he made music THAT crazy without even using the full capabilities of the system.

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 11 місяців тому +53

    2:41 That song was composed by none other than Jeroen Tel, another phenomenal video game composer.

  • @miket7869
    @miket7869 11 місяців тому +21

    If Silver Surfer is ever to appear in a theoretical MVC4, that nes theme NEEDS to be his character theme, its too perfect!

  • @pcachu
    @pcachu 11 місяців тому +30

    Tim Follin's picture is in the pictionary under "You Didn't Have To Go That Hard".

  • @PlungerMettaur
    @PlungerMettaur 11 місяців тому +12

    Yeah, what Tim and Geoff were able to do with early video game soundchips is borderline magic

  • @BigbluaceG4
    @BigbluaceG4 11 місяців тому +53

    39:43 oh my gooood that tiny little Spider-Man theme song motif, absolutely immaculate

    • @Chadius
      @Chadius 11 місяців тому +7

      Bionic Commando on the Amiga also has a few Star Wars motifs thrown in.

    • @Mr.Smiley_J
      @Mr.Smiley_J 11 місяців тому +5

      Oh shit! I never noticed that!

  • @DarkPuIse
    @DarkPuIse 11 місяців тому +52

    Tim Follin is simply a god, and I've had the good fortune to be enjoying him from the 80s on. When everyone else was just cranking out some tunes, he was writing pocket symphonies.
    Lots of people could compose for those soundchips, but few could make them sing in ways that absolutely defied expectations and made you wonder "How the hell...?" while you listened to it, and you had no idea where it would go next - but that you were in for a ride.
    Tim Follin is one of those people who could do that.
    It's a certain kind of magic that's lost nowadays now that everything is simply streaming audio. But it's great to see people discovering him, and getting the credit he deserves.

  • @Memelord9001
    @Memelord9001 6 місяців тому +12

    I think the coolest thing about Plok is that he only used 5 channels out of the 8 available to make the soundtrack. That is unheard of

    • @leoleonvids
      @leoleonvids 3 місяці тому

      Not really, most SNES games didn't use all 8 channels for music, so it's not unheard of

    • @Memelord9001
      @Memelord9001 3 місяці тому

      @@leoleonvids I'm not sure you are correct

    • @Memelord9001
      @Memelord9001 3 місяці тому

      But regardless of semantics, plok used a lot less channels than most SNES games

  • @Zeithri
    @Zeithri 11 місяців тому +17

    As someone who owned *Solstice* as a kid... I'm glad to say that I was one.
    The ingame music is still my go-to song for dungeon crawling.

    • @Somerandomjingleberry
      @Somerandomjingleberry 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah the actual song that plays during gameplay is a lot less intense than the famous title theme but I still love it a lot too! It actually does nail the creepy crypt vibe pretty well

  • @sinteleon
    @sinteleon 3 місяці тому +3

    For solstice, the start is when you see an ordinary wizard.... the drop is when the wizard rips off his shirt and he's absolutely ripped.

  • @randommaster06
    @randommaster06 11 місяців тому +59

    Game devs: "Tim, is this a normal song?"
    Tim: "Yes, it's a Very Normal Song."

  • @ArmoredGriffon
    @ArmoredGriffon 11 місяців тому +81

    His brother, Geoff Follin is just as good! Look up his music in the Gameboy game "Spot", specifically what plays when you decide your next move.

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому +18

      So true! Also Tom & Jerry for the NES is a good one from him!

    • @reapervegas
      @reapervegas 11 місяців тому +10

      @@Thiagomii Wolverine for NES also has a killer soundtrack by him :D

  • @ItsmeAz
    @ItsmeAz 11 місяців тому +15

    I've been into this music for years, and for just as long, I've had people dismissing it as not "real music." While I don't need validation, it's refreshing to finally see someone just get it.

  • @MaxDrawsStuff
    @MaxDrawsStuff 11 місяців тому +109

    Finally somebody uploaded this on UA-cam! Tried to find this in Twitch vods, and it is such a pain in the butt. Thank you so much!

    • @TheNameCannotBeFound
      @TheNameCannotBeFound 11 місяців тому +1

      Have you ever found it? I’d love to see it :(

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@TheNameCannotBeFoundCheck the description of the vid ;)

  • @sdzero
    @sdzero 11 місяців тому +38

    I have a Follin story. So my brother and I saved up around $70 or $80 dollars one summer and we had to figure out which game we were going to buy at K-Mart. We were really getting into Marvel Comics cartoon shows at that time in the mid 90s. So when we saw Spider-Man and X-Men Arcade's Revenge SNES in the kiosk it was the perfect combo. So we threw down $70 dollars (plus tax..😢) and the game was not very good. It was easy at first with Spider-Man and the difficulty spikes when you get to choose the X-Men stages. But...we never sold the game. The music was far better than most games we had on snes at the time. It really saved the game. Not to mention the cool poster it came with. Anyway, the Follins are amazing at what they do.

  • @Slagomancer
    @Slagomancer 11 місяців тому +7

    It's been a delight seeing different folks in the internet-o-sphere find out about the absolute legends that are the Follins.

  • @ibukiosorio7930
    @ibukiosorio7930 8 місяців тому +17

    RIP Geoff Follin. The legendary composer ❤

  • @pixeljacked8047
    @pixeljacked8047 11 місяців тому +23

    Tim worked up in till the early 2000s, last game music he made was for the skarky and hutch game, he is now a photographer, and has directed 2 FMV games

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому +7

      For what I know, his last work in the industry was on the Lemmings game from 2006. Then he started making his own games.

    • @Somerandomjingleberry
      @Somerandomjingleberry 11 місяців тому +2

      Didn’t Markiplier play one of his FMV games? At Dark of Night I think it’s called?

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому

      @@Somerandomjingleberry That's right!

  • @UltimaKeyMaster
    @UltimaKeyMaster 11 місяців тому +102

    "The Genesis has DOGSHIT soundchips in it"
    Go play Phantasy Star 4 and say that again, Max-

    • @ZhouTie47
      @ZhouTie47 11 місяців тому +29

      I was thinking Streets of Rage myself. But it's not like the statement is inherently wrong though.

    • @esmooth919
      @esmooth919 11 місяців тому +41

      The problem with the Genesis sound chip is, not many composers knew how to work it... Especially the majority of the Western composers

    • @nickfarace9339
      @nickfarace9339 11 місяців тому +15

      @@esmooth919 yeah its so wild to hear the 80% of games that all have that exact same sound in their Genesis soundtracks, then the few who knew how to use it make it sound like a COMPLETELY different system.

    • @psyanah4542
      @psyanah4542 11 місяців тому

      GEMS has been the worst thing to happen for the Sega Genesis, it's the program a lot of companies started using that made every OST sound bland and shitty. The Yamaha chip inside it is actually great - check out Xenocrisis Genesis OST by Savaged Regime for top tier use of it

    • @jju00
      @jju00 11 місяців тому +11

      I was thinking of Earthworm Jim, Streets of Rage, Rock n Roll Racing Genesis (Tim only did the SNES version) and a whole lot more.
      The problem is not the quality of the sound chip; it's the fact that it's FM Synthesis, a very complicated techinique to understand fully.

  • @isbilen1000
    @isbilen1000 11 місяців тому +15

    I came across Plok! through Silvagunner, and it's one of the best discoveries I've made in my music experience ever.
    Solstice's soundtrack really made me think how faithful Jake Kaufman's composition in Shovel Knight is to NES and SNES soundtracks.
    The absolute first thing I shouted when Plok Beach theme came up was "THIS IS JUST DOA XTREME BEFORE DOA XTREME"
    TimeTrax was just all-in Comix-Zone X Streets of Rage.
    God, Plok Boss theme, again, the Silvagunner mashup with Roller Mobster is absolutely perfect, they play off eachother SO GOOD

  • @Formula_Zero_EX
    @Formula_Zero_EX 11 місяців тому +15

    “The Genesis does not have great audio-“
    Thunder Force III and IV: Okay, imma stop you right there.

    • @chazzwozzio
      @chazzwozzio 11 місяців тому +4

      I listened to thunderforce 4 ost and now my blood is NO2

  • @mstop4
    @mstop4 11 місяців тому +16

    Funny how Barry Leitch (another amazing game music composer) got a bit of a cameo because someone recommended the Top Gear OST to Max.
    I know Max isn't primarily a VGM reaction content creator, but I wish more of them out there on UA-cam would listen to the Plok! OST. It's still holds up as a masterpiece to this day.

    • @Chadius
      @Chadius 11 місяців тому +2

      Top Gear is good stuff man.

  • @themadmallard
    @themadmallard 11 місяців тому +47

    Thought there was an interview where Tim said he actively hated working with the limited hardware, and still does and never went back to it from each successive generation. kinda funny.

    • @fidgetypenguin8153
      @fidgetypenguin8153 10 місяців тому +2

      Weird I thought he said he loved to tinker with it. Can’t find the interview tho, so it was just a rumor I heard

    • @peteryeeterson5766
      @peteryeeterson5766 7 місяців тому

      @@fidgetypenguin8153 Love to tinker with it, hate the multitude of limitations

    • @themadmallard
      @themadmallard 5 місяців тому

      @@fidgetypenguin8153 i'm struggling to find it again. Its a shame though, because wehn the truly creative are given these kind of boundaries, there's a chance that something special comes from the creative process.

    • @MrKubahades
      @MrKubahades 7 днів тому

      Sounds like the squeezed every 1 and 0 possible from each chip he ever worked on and thought “eh im unimpressed”

  • @drcidd8153
    @drcidd8153 11 місяців тому +4

    Tim Follin is the only reason a lot of these games ever got played more than once. Legendary.

  • @malictory
    @malictory 11 місяців тому +22

    I'm glad folks enjoy Plok more nowadays:3
    Remember that there's a sequel comic by series creators, too! It's called Plok: The Exploding Man:3

  • @isaiahhellems7901
    @isaiahhellems7901 11 місяців тому +33

    Max didn't even let some of the music cook to the good parts😢

  • @Mr.Smiley_J
    @Mr.Smiley_J 11 місяців тому +5

    This is my first discovery of the soundtrack to Spiderman and the X-Men in Arcade's revenge. I've struggled to play that game for years and this soundtrack was just background noise to my pain. Now, hearing it without having a brain aneurysm trying beat that impossible game, it's pure joy. Wow! I have to listen to it again on it's own.

  • @Frosted_Moontips
    @Frosted_Moontips 11 місяців тому +36

    I wish I were HALF the composer Tim is, like DAYUMM dude~

  • @TheFireSword87
    @TheFireSword87 11 місяців тому +17

    you can really tell Tim loves prog rock

  • @vashido1866
    @vashido1866 11 місяців тому +39

    this was in 2021?? It feels like I was watching this stream just last year holy shit
    thanks so much for uploading this!

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому +4

      Me too! Time passes so fast!

    • @professoryeetus8955
      @professoryeetus8955 9 місяців тому

      i just remembered that 2021 wasn't a year ago

  • @sown-laughter4351
    @sown-laughter4351 10 місяців тому +3

    From a guy who doesn't like or watch twitch . Thank you for this treasurable moment!

  • @MarioGMan25
    @MarioGMan25 11 місяців тому +23

    I wonder if Max listened to TimeTrax...
    AW YEAH BABY THERE IT IS.

    • @canaconn2388
      @canaconn2388 2 місяці тому

      Shame he never listened to breafing

  • @Marceles45
    @Marceles45 11 місяців тому +5

    Gambit’s theme is one my favorite pieces of video game music, so glad someone in chat mentioned it

  • @assanchop1574
    @assanchop1574 11 місяців тому +5

    I love watching people discover Tim and Geoff Follin...

  • @Mocafrito
    @Mocafrito 11 місяців тому +9

    every time i hear someone talking about the GOD that is tim follin, i can't help but remember that time i got gifted a copy of starky and hutch for Pc, it was one of my first pc games, and everytime i heard those godly beats i couldn't help but thinking "huh, must be standard in games to have music this good" it wasn't the case tim follin just GOES HARD no matter the genre of music or the genre of game, ITS INSANE

  • @GeekMasterGames
    @GeekMasterGames 11 місяців тому +4

    I am reminded of that scene in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, when Beethoven discovered the multiple digital keyboards and absolutely just goes to town. Tim & Geoff did not know the meaning of holding back.

  • @GODZILLAmonsoon
    @GODZILLAmonsoon 11 місяців тому +12

    Rush. Genesis. Supertramp. King Crimson. *FOLLIN.*

  • @Dieci-9
    @Dieci-9 11 місяців тому +21

    Thank you so much for this. I also discovered Tim and Geoff thanks to this video and my god they did some great job.
    Feels like whenever someone wanted to make some music that blew the minds of the players they'd just go: "Call the brothers!"

  • @scottjameson5358
    @scottjameson5358 9 місяців тому +4

    Yes!!!! Finally someone made an edited version of Max's reaction. You have no idea how happy I am to finally see someone edited this particular VOD. And yes, I've tried asking Arsonius and other people who may be able to get Max's VOD for this particular part but good thing exist now. Thank you so much for this edited clip, Dood!!! Shine On!

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  9 місяців тому +1

      Comments like these are the bests! thanks!!

    • @scottjameson5358
      @scottjameson5358 9 місяців тому

      @@Thiagomii You're most welcome.

  • @CallMeSugarMilk
    @CallMeSugarMilk 11 місяців тому +3

    Warms my heart to see Max discovering and listening to a lot of Tim and Geoff Follin’s work during the NES-SNES days. They truly made some of the best tracks/bangers and had no reason to go that hard but they let the Follin brothers cook in the studio 🔥

  • @robbyrobot3303
    @robbyrobot3303 11 місяців тому +101

    The Genesis has fantastic audio capabilities. It has a yamaha chip used in many keyboards. The problem is most western devs used a shitty music library tool.

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 11 місяців тому +21

      Unfortunately Max (and the online retro gaming community at a large) is a pretty big diehard Nintendo guy, the internet has kinda conditioned everyone to just believe Nintendo was always better than Sega in every way

    • @robbyrobot3303
      @robbyrobot3303 11 місяців тому +17

      @@THENAMEISQUICKMAN it's true, tho Sega of America did provide the bad sound tools to devs so they should take some blame also.
      I think the Genesis actually sounds better when tracks are tailored to it, because the SNES has a lot of reverb by virtue of sampling. Look up Mega Man X remixes on Genesis and they sound amazing, way cleaner.

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому +27

      ​@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Weird you say this because Max is more of a SEGA guy since the beginning

    • @robbyrobot3303
      @robbyrobot3303 11 місяців тому +15

      @@Thiagomii yeah, it's an understandable mistake to make when in reality many games do sound horrible on the Genesis. I used to believe like Max that the hardware itself was just inferior. Sega of America gave western devs a tool suite called GEMS which made it much easier to write or import midi into, but it usually sounded awful.

    • @Zeithri
      @Zeithri 11 місяців тому

      @@THENAMEISQUICKMANIt's weird that you say this when you don't sub to me 😏

  • @scrungo7610
    @scrungo7610 11 місяців тому +4

    My sister and I have been blessed and inspired by Plok since we got it as kids on the snes. The soundtrack is unbelievable

  • @diogenesleite6249
    @diogenesleite6249 11 місяців тому +4

    Those guys are amazing. A shame they didn't had the recognition they deserve. So much good stuff

  • @RutabagaSwe
    @RutabagaSwe 10 місяців тому +5

    Tim Follin blows the competition away, not just with brilliantly written music, but with mastery of the hardware. I don't think i've heard any other composer squeeze so much out of the NES sound chip. Incredible stuff. I mean i like the "hella classics" as well, amazing songs. But just imagine if they were written with the same technical ability that Tim Follin had.

  • @henrygreen2096
    @henrygreen2096 11 місяців тому +22

    I don’t know if Tim is still alive or not but I hope he somehow see this or at least just just knows how much and how many people appreciate his work. The tracks he made are something you can only make with talent AND passion.
    There are video games with better audio capabilities and higher budgets that don’t have nearly this level of interesting music composition.

    • @nikey2110
      @nikey2110 6 місяців тому +2

      He is! His studio, Baggy Cat Games, has released 2 games so far.

  • @LavaCreeperPeople
    @LavaCreeperPeople 11 місяців тому +6

    Finally, people are paying more attention to the FOLLIN BROTHER'S EPIC MUSIC!!!!! :D

  • @Hopohoo2
    @Hopohoo2 11 місяців тому +6

    In my honest opinion like Max said, the Silver Surfer Level 1 track is easily one of the greatest ever made with the NES soundchip, it is insane

  • @FifthOfNovember_Original
    @FifthOfNovember_Original 11 місяців тому +18

    Thanks for the upload! I love when people discover these old BANGERS and show them love that they deserve

  • @Pang51Oakland
    @Pang51Oakland 11 місяців тому +15

    I’ve been looking for this VOD for a while now cause I was half asleep listening to the stream but I always wanted to go back and find these songs. Thank you so much

  • @Harperlarp
    @Harperlarp 4 місяці тому +1

    I stumbled across this video my pure chance, and I’m blown away. I love the silver surfer tune and had no idea the guy who created it had such a rich and varied catalogue. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

  • @thestripedmenace
    @thestripedmenace 11 місяців тому +23

    Imagine Silver Surfer gets to be in the next Mahvel
    And his theme is an arrangement of the NES game's theme
    By the Follins themselves

    • @groovingood
      @groovingood 6 місяців тому

      Would be awesome

    • @NightmareZerogbs
      @NightmareZerogbs 5 місяців тому

      if it's NOT done by Tim, it won't be up to par, it just can't

  • @TrashJack3000
    @TrashJack3000 11 місяців тому +5

    The Follins brothers were absolute WIZARDS with sound chips.

  • @hocuspocusfocus6229
    @hocuspocusfocus6229 11 місяців тому +4

    "Tim calm down! It's just Pictionary!" HAhahaAHaha

  • @kiricappuchin
    @kiricappuchin 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for uploading these highlights! I giggled when his cursor starting dancing along to Creepy Crag lol.

  • @fakename8543
    @fakename8543 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for grabbing this for us!

  • @makotroid108
    @makotroid108 11 місяців тому +6

    Finally another Tim discovery stream, Northernlions stream was last one i remember.

  • @rastas_4221
    @rastas_4221 11 місяців тому +26

    Prog rock on NES. Only Tim Follin

  • @Gebirges
    @Gebirges 11 місяців тому +5

    Crazy to think that in these 3 years nothing changed with Max's stream. Still looks and feels the same :D

  • @Thomaskh7
    @Thomaskh7 4 місяці тому +2

    *reading title sees tim and geoff follin*
    Oh jesus here we go, yet another person learning the legends of the Follin brothers making god tier music for no reason. lets gooooooooooo.

  • @sephiroth21347
    @sephiroth21347 11 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for making a vid on this! I remember seeing Max I believe re-reacting to this clip a few weeks ago? All the music slapped

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому

      Are you serious?! I'd love to see that! If you have more info I'll appreciate it!

    • @sephiroth21347
      @sephiroth21347 11 місяців тому +1

      Well like the OG stream when I say clip. I know I saw Max listening to Tim Follin stuff recently, not 2021 lol @@Thiagomii

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  11 місяців тому

      Yess, just wondering where did you saw him re-reacting to the clip, if you remember of course ;)

  • @Damian_1989
    @Damian_1989 11 місяців тому +10

    28:17 YES i knew Max would stumble upon Ghouls n' Ghosts eventually, that theme SLAPS

    • @Mr.Smiley_J
      @Mr.Smiley_J 11 місяців тому +2

      I remember singing the praises of this man's music and showing a friend a playlist, and this came on. Both of us were confused, no way this music came from a console that old, we skipped it because we thought we found a mistakenly labeled song. Shit is wild!

  • @Saxdude26
    @Saxdude26 11 місяців тому +13

    Max: "Listen to this shit (affectionate)..."
    Me: "Let me guess, the boss theme?"
    Max: "This is a boss theme!?"
    Me: "Called it."
    Now if I remember rightly, some big names at Nintendo were so stunned by the sound quality of Plok! they actually questioned if the console had been tampered with to produce even the harmonicas at the title screen. Not sure how true the story is, but I can definitely believe it.

  • @De_an
    @De_an 11 місяців тому +5

    One of my favorite things to do to my friends is show them the insanity of Pictionary NES. They never see it coming.

  • @AlphaProto
    @AlphaProto 11 місяців тому +4

    I've always loved what the Follin's were able to do within the limitations of the software.