The Legendary Peter Ham: A Member Of Badfinger And The Mastermind Behind "without You
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Peter Ham formed a local rock group called The Panthers circa 1961. This group would undergo several name and line-up changes before it became The Iveys in 1965. In 1968, The Iveys came to the attention of Mal Evans (The Beatles' personal assistant) and were eventually signed to the Beatles' Apple Records label after approval from all four Beatles, who were reportedly impressed by the band's songwriting abilities. The Iveys changed their name to Badfinger with the single release of "Come and Get It", a composition written by Paul McCartney that became a worldwide top-ten hit.
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One of the saddest stories in music along with the 3rd-Feb-59. Made worse by two of them passing away.
I so want to visit his grave. R.I.P.
RIP Pete Ham and Tom Evans! So sad when bad things happen to good people.
My Mom always said Bad things happen to good people 😢❤
Very much enjoyed. Pete Ham will never be forgotten !
Such as sad way to go ...Beautiful Tribute Alan ...& a beautiful headstone
Wasn't it a beautiful one? Debbie, but I think it's the saddest one.
I loved Badfinger. The seventies were so great for music. 😢
I've always loved Badfinger, and always been deeply saddened at what happened to Peter Ham, and later, Tom Evans, who also committed suicide. Sometimes, deeply sensitive people cannot cope with an often brutal world. The manager Polley was an absolute disgrace. It's such a shame that Apple folded, taking away McCartney's input into Badfinger, which was immense. I've seen an interview in which McCartney talks about what an immense talent Ham was, and I got the feeling that he would have intervened had he known what was happening. A sad and tragic end to a brilliant musician, singer-songwriter. Without You must truly be one of the greatest songs ever written.
Thank you for this video showing Ham's grave and for your thoughtful words.
Hi Yolanda very interesting. I didn't know that. I'd like to see the interview with Paul McCartney talking about Peter I'll try and find it.
Always fascinating to see where so many famous faces are laid to rest. Have you considered looking for the grave of former world speedway champion Peter Craven, who was killed in a track crash in Edinburgh in 1963 - the only world champion rider to ever lose his life. He's buried in West Derby cemetery in Liverpool
Hello Matt I've never heard again and that is a long time ago but that is something I will consider doing if I was nearby thank you for the good suggestion. I'll see what I can do in the future very kind of you
Thank you Alan, they were a great band.
And a very big thank you John
Thanks very much for posting as I live in the States and at my age may never have the chance to come visit Swansea, though I would certainly like to. Pete was a beautiful soul and deserves being remembered. Your video is touching as I had only seen still images prior and didn't know about the extra engraved photos at the foot of the gravestone. You are right when you said he left some beauty behind in the world.
Hello Peter I didn't realize they were popular in the USA, but I'm glad you enjoyed it and I hope you make it one day, although it's quite a long trip. Thank you very much, Alan
One of the greatest tunesmiths ever
Well done sir! Respectfully done. Anybody who wrote beautiful songs like Baby Blue and, with Tom, Without You deserves to be venerated forever. The full story is both sad and anger inducing, these two lads are in heaven playing their music and stan polley is in hell getting red hot pokers rammed up his backside for all eternity.
Hi Sailor That's extremely kind of you and I love your suggestion. At the end it sounds very fitting punishment for the crime. Very best regards Alan
I really liked their music but didn't know much about the band members. It's great that today you can Google and really research the artists and bands you used to love. Another one like the many after him who left this world at 27, it's far too young 😢
I will visit that memorial because I live near Morriston. Fabulous composer, why did you have to go Peter.
Brilliant video Al, it's a great shame for Peter , great songs, he could have got through this with the right guidance and could have made even better music, a shame, 'No matter what' is really Brilliant.
What a tragedy surely the royalties for without you would eventually be rolling in
Theoretically, it was an argument about the royalties from "Without You" that brought Tom Evans to suicide. There is only one living witness so IDK.
I’ll stay positive. Your caring words are healing .. I’m sure for many of your followers. Being from America, I know little about British TV but I continue to watch for your compassion. Today’s went right to my heart 💕
Stay strong ❤
I do understand it wasn't extremely sad story in lots of ways, in a way it's like a positive story for us to try and live for better life it's such a waste. Thank you for watching even though you don't really know the people that's super kind of you and it's lovely to speak I watch out for you in the future best regards Alan
I was a big fan of bad finger. I was only 15 at the time the both hung themselves. They got so badly ripped off!!!!
I've been told that this stone is just a memorial stone for fans, and Peter is buried elsewhere in the cemetery. If anyone knows I'd this is a fact, please comment also the book by author Dan matovina called (without you, the tragic story of bad finger.
Hi Alan my old mate,this one was very sad,I could see you were emotional.Badfinger were a bit before my time but obviously very skilled performers so sad .Rip
I didn't know much about them myself Giants but I do appreciate them now. Thank you
As usual a joy
I remember their songs like it was yesterday.!
I am 70 Now time flys.!
Look after yourself Maureen
Didn't recognise the name Badfinger at all, but after watching your touching, and wonderful visit to Peter, I played some of their videos, and unsurprisingly, I recognised some of their great songs. What happened to him was absolutely tragic, and I feel nothing but contempt for those who ripped him and the band off. Thanks for the video Alan, you were respectful and measured as ever. A captivating watch. 👍🏻❤
Hi Sara, listen to Carry on till tomorrow. Peters best song.
Hello Sara exactly the same with me. I loved some of the songs the hits but I never really knew anything about them. That's the beauty of doing the films. Thank you
I had heard of this group, but I was more of a Beatles fan. I recognise a couple of their songs, such a sad and tragic story well told by you Alan in a very sympathetic way. I like the flower, nice touch.
Thank you, Carol they might be sad but it's the truth and it's interesting and they did write beautiful songs that we can all appreciate. So I'm very pleased you enjoyed the video. All the best, alan
Still enjoy the music in 2024. especially those in which you mentioned. Great memories of the music and what I was doing at the time. Thank you BAD FINGER FOR THE fabulous memories and nostalgia. Motorhome Beep Beep thank you for sharing this amazing production also for the wonderful narration.
Thank you ever so much Stuart That's super kind of you and I'm so pleased that you found it entertaining to watch the film. It was an excellent songwriter. I didn't know much about him until I did the research. Regards, alan
That was great loads of information, remember what Dean Martin once said I know they say "money is not everything but it sure as hell helps."
Such a tragic demise for someone who had the potential to have achieved even 'greater things' Badfinger were a 'no holds barred' outfit, & Peter's presence is sorely missed! Thoroughly enjoyed this video Alan. Respect!!😊
Thank you Adrian isn't it frustrating when you see people in privileged position so talent with such hard work and then it goes so wrong. No holds you say about BadFinger I'm intrigued I always check them out more definitely which is stupid I always do it that way around :-) thank you Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Yes absolutely. It's incredibly fustrating, and sadly life is littered with examples of this! As a huge Beatles fan, I'm so glad that they 'recognised the talent' of Peter Ham, & we can only wonder at what 'could have been' had he still been alive. Yes Badfinger were a good rock outfit I think, & hopefully you will enjoy them also! Thanks Alan, & really first rate content once again. Respect!!
@@adrianbrowne7874 Adrian believe me I have a process I get involved with the subject and then research it even more afterwards my film it's ridiculous but enjoy it because I get to know the subjects that I would never know and thank you because you know much more about the group and Peter. I am watching BadFinger at the moment on UA-cam Good night Freind
Hi Alan this is such a sad story about Peter Ham and Also Tom Evans who took his own life too a few years later. Great band great music but got ripped off by a shyster of a manager. Take care my friend and keep up the good work and I can’t wait till the next one 👏👏👏👍
Hi Psy I didn't know that about some but a few people have mentioned it. There's been many cases artistic people being ripped off. Take care my friend
I was a great fan of bad finger. His mate hung himself also! That was the two of them! I will never forget them both! It's an awful industry it's so easy to get ripped off by people you trust! That was an excellent video that!
Hello david, I didn't know that the other guy hung himself. Wow, makes you glad that you're not in that kind of pressure. I'm checking the group out. They do seem excellent. Thank you, Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep that's because they got ripped big time. It was some time after Pete. The depression was too much! I was a big fan back in the day!
I used to work in shops very near this cemetery. Alvin Stardust has his ashes scattered here too.
Great video. As with your Ruth Madoc video, I want to go and visit this one. Great video and sound advice too. ❤
His brother John had a successful music shop in Swansea for years. It was on Mansel Street.
Hello Caroline, I really didn't know that about Alvin Stardust, I would like to have looked into his history and done the film about him too. Thank you for the great comment. Very interesting. Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep you’ll have to come back Alan. 😀He bought a house in Swansea where I believe his wife is from. There’s a lot of information online you’ll find helpful.
Thanks Alan, always look forward to seeing new videos. Very much appreciated ❤
Charmain your x
How sad brilliant video. X
A other brilliant video Alan keep them coming.
Thank you John. I'll do my best
Thanks Al. Everyone, you need to listen to Traffic’s ‘The Low Park of High-Heeled Boys’. It says it all about the early days of musicians and their ‘managers’. This is what happened to Pete and Badfinger.
Thank you Marion. I'll look out for that. Sounds a good read
Thats so sad
Hi Alan, As always another great video. Badfinger were a fabulous group. I loved there music. So very sad that Peter Ham took his own life at such a young age. I suppose he felt it was the only way out. Awful for his family. Looking forward to your next video. Take care . xx
Thank you angel I didn't know them as well as you
So sad when people are so desperate that for them, it is the only way out of the darkness. Too many young people take their lives.
Greetings Alan,
Another superb VLOG, I remember Bad Finger but was not aware of their history or Peter’s sad demise. I was 18 in 1975 and now coming up to 67 wonder what he could have achieved had he taken a different path. The older we get the more reflective and sentimental. Having dealt with those who chose to taken their own lives I am torn between their despair and state of mind but anger for those loved ones left behind and those of us left to in some cases to literally pick up the pieces. On a more positive note thanks for the story. Just about to leave the beautiful New Forest and travel back home. Hope you are enjoying your travels 👍
Hi CFP I believe it's irrationa to die l because of the pressure. Logically if a person could stand back most people I think would do nothing to harm myself but they have succumbed to the pressure because of youth and sensitivity. It's very easy to say that when older with less pressure I was born in June 1958 similar age to you. I now realize this is never a utopia in life the best is now before it's too late. Enjoy your travels I am ...I'll see you again I hope.
Thanks for doing this video. A talent gone too soon. RIP Pete
Thanks Genia
Thank you Alan for this wonderful tribute. A tragic ending for such a talent who sadly belongs to the 27 club.
And even is his friend and band member he wrote with called Tom also committed suicide! It's hard to believe. Don't you think Joy? Take care
Thank you that was a lovely tribute to Peter Ham so sad he left so young. Some people in this world are so money hungry and greedy they dont care who they hurt to get it, I think it had a lot to do with Peter's demise he must have felt there was no way out. Anyway take care of yourself Alan 👏👏👏👏💕
Hi JKK I always find it difficult to believe they've done it it shows you that these high profiled celebrities in some cases that even more vulnerable than people in the normal world. It takes sensitivity to be creative they're not built for cut throat for existence. Thank you for your lovely comment
Thank you Alan for a beautiful video , A tribute to a very talented person, so sad he died so young, he had the great gift of music, thank you once again
And thank you, John
Thank you , Alan . I neeed to come and visit Pete Ham again very soon. I live near Carmarthen so not that from Morriston. I am 67 and have loved Badfinger since the very beginning . Pete ,You are so very much missed .Bless you xxx
Thank you Susan. I'm just getting to learn about the group but it was a fantastic songwriter and I'm glad that he's encouraged you to revisit much love, Alan
And thank you Susan. I'm very pleased to get to know the group that you know so well and them. I hope you managed to revisit his grave. I'm sure it will give you a break tranquil experience in what really matters. Thank you, Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep 😍😍
Hi Alan thanks for doing one of my ideas given to you I really enjoyed it mate Dave Dee is waiting alan keep up the great work. Ian
That's a good idea Ian. Thank you
RIP Peter ❤️
Alan what a sad ending to Peter Ham's life . Looking forward to your next video and chat .
I do my best Marion a new one soon :-)
Thanks Alan, Remember this bad well and when he died, I wasn't a bad finger fan, But as you say another gone too young.
Hi Steven thanks mate
Your powerful comments about the value of our time is what I needed to hear today. The last two minutes could stand alone💕
End of my films are what are the most important thing to me if you're NOT happy remember two things time changes the emotion the better because the humans we look at the worst which doesn't happen usually I feel comfortable with yourself if you want to speak to me again no problem :-)
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Thank you for your caring words. I do love my life and my family and live a life of gratitude. I’m 72 and am losing my mobility. Your words touched my heart today. Put a light on the love and the time I have with my loving family. Bless you💕
The most richest moments you can have with the ones you love
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep I’m Cathy in Virginia USA and am thankful for your Light and concern. I’ve always been a positive
Lovely tribute to Peter Ham. Swansea is my home town and " Without you" is a favourite song of mine. But I have to confess, I didn't know he was buried in Morriston cemetery. Keep up the good work Alan. Will meet you one day soon I hope.
Thank you Alan I'll keep posting my position in future and if we do meet
I was an apprentice bricklayer in the 60s and worked with Dave Evan’s younger brother off Tom Evan’s Dave was an apprentice bricklayer, he brought into work a stack of 45s Maybe Tomorrow and sold them and I still have it today, found out later the absolute tragic story. R.I.P Peter.
Badfinger Boogie, original title of With a Little Help From my friends
They should make a movie about this band!
I think you're right. Peter, he's forgotten too much 😞
Thanks very much for this...
Lovely video Alan thank you
Thank you, david
Thank you for your video Alan brilliant as always
And so are you Anthony? Thank you
You never fail to Alan you tell thier stories beautifully compassionate well done xx
Thank you Maureen I usually do get a little bit involved just prior to doing the film but I enjoy it. It makes me feel connected.
Morning Alan just watched this video what a tragic story lovely looking guy so sad beautiful headstone in a lovely setting you’re right Alan I was with someone who’s main aim in life was making money he was afraid of being poor he put money before love which is why we’re no longer together shallow people thanks al have a great day ❤️😊👍🏻
It's a common thing. Crystal, the world is a bit obsessed. Luckily some people realize before it's too late. Great to see you as always Alan
Brilliant video - beautifully delivered and narrated
Thank you Rob I get to know the subject of my films and then usually get to know them even more so afterwards which is nice regards for your comment. Alan
Another person i wasn't aware of. How sad to take his life so young. What was also sad was the note left showed anger. Interesting and compassionate video Alan, thank you.
Hi Mag yesterday add all the elements, love anger and sadness. He must have been in a very terrible state
Such a sad ending for someone so young and talented, thank you for your brilliant video!
Thank you Sue much love to you
Thanks Alan such a sad end to what would have been a great career and killing himself at 27
What would he become if he had lived great video Alan
It's hard to believe Karl , that must have been a lot more going on in his life... Take care
Hi Alan, glad to see you well. Terrible that anyone does this, people think money is everything. I had the kids out at the weekend at the beach. It was free.
It's like the song says the best things in life are free User 😄
Always words of wisdom from you Alan. Thank you til the next one 🙏
Sad tale of money and greed. A great video Alan!
Hi Hank I try an do a happy life story next :-) take care mate.
Well done Alan
Cheers So
What a lovely tribute well done Alan
Looking forward to you doing Hurricane Smith another related Beatles pop star,
He's buried in the village next door to where Mary Millingtons buried in Surrey
Yes I know Kay believe it or not I did lots of research after your communication HS thank you I'm looking forward making the film about H i would love to take out for a bit if you wish when i there Good night dear
Not sure who he was but great video again Alan
I know you mean Diane I only vaguely knew him but I love the single Without You thank you goodnight
Nice one alan
Great video again Alan. like you without you. one of my fave songs
Exactly Dave same as me Love that song good night mate
Hi mate. Remember Peters and Lee? What do you know about them? They seem to have been lost in music history and not a lot of info on who they were and what happened on their life's. Any chance you could have a look and fo something on them? I'm in Australia however come from Scotland originally and was brought up with groupes like them..
Thanks mate, love the channel
Thank you biker Lenny Peters died of cancer but I don't know the location of his grave. I don't think he's being given out. All the best my friend
Totally forgot about this group 😮❤
I don’t know much about this music,but great video as always Alan keep strong 🦾🦾
Hi Moggy I like the strong arms. I wish I had them 😅
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep 😂😂
Thank you Alan , from Spain.
God bless you !!
Hello Santiago, it's quite sunny in England at the moment. All the best my friend, Alan
Fantastic songwriter, guitarist and vocalist… his death was too much for his band mate Tom Evans.
Evans actually was collecting some royalties for “ Without You”, he even states it in an interview where he says “ it has kept me in pockets”.
Millions were tied up in escrow and he was being sued by others very sad.
He just had and couldn’t take it anymore and killed himself 8 years after Pete Ham.
Hi Alan , a favorite band to me, sad story but there music lives on.
Thank you Ronnie I will be checking them out more tomorrow you'll be inspired me
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Enjoy Alan, hope your well.
@@ronnieright4935 Good night Ronnie cu soon mate
Wise words Alan cheers .were here for a good time not a long time ,love all the 70s songs.
Well said Ben
I loved Pete Ham and bad finger was sad to hear when i heard he died when he did. I think if he had lived i think he would of done alright but thats my opinion
I think you're right. Nancy
I've never heard of him at all fancy going at twenty seven so sad
I worked with the bass player from The Panthers. He told me he thinks Peter 'gave up' because he was determined to be a pro muso all his life, he was dead serious about it. When Warner brothers went for them after Polley took the money, Peter thought he would never work again.
Thank you mister. That's that's very, very interesting an inside story
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep As you probably know, John, Peter's brother, had a music shop on Mansel Street in Swansea. I went in there when i started work, mid 80s... I was looking to buy an SG, asked John if he had any. he said he didn't, but would I like to try one he had, it had been his brothers... I didn't have a clue who his brother was at the time. I said no, i want to buy one, not try one. ... I later found out it was the SG the Beatles had given to Peter. It was used on Revolver and The white album.... one of life's regrets... oops
Thank you Alan feel fine ❤
Niice to hear Leeann :-)
@MotorHomeBeepBeep thank you Alan have a good day x
Very unusual and luxurious grave..
I particularly like that helper in the background that keeps getting water
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep ahahaha my Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Swansea like Penzance
Oops, meant to say ‘Spark’. 😊
All people loads who died not know him
A;AN THIS WAS A GREAT BAND THEY WAS ON THE BEATLES LABEL APPLE I DO KNOW PAUL MCARTNEY WROTE COME AND GET IT THEY WAS VERY VERY GOOD I KNOW THERE STUFF WELL AS YOU KNOW I PLAY GUITAR THIS GROUP WAS VERY MUCH LIKE THE FAB FOUR i think the beatles gave them a good start i was very youn when they broke out but its like liverpool exspress thats paul brother thats in this band i did like liver pool exspress i dont know what happend to them they just went shame as they was a good band bad finger was a good band music was great in them days its not good now at all good to see ya alan keep up the good work
Thank you my friend I can see that you're very excited I honestly don't know I'm as much about them as you do and I'm not sure which band Paul's brother was in because I'm a big Paul McCartney fan but I'll take it out tomorrow but I'm so pleased that you enjoyed the film. All I can say is that the guy looks wonderfully sensitive and I love without you I bought the single when I was 11 years old it was the first woman I ever bought keeping touch I'm so pleased you enjoyed Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep alan as you know im glade you know this dont for get you can still call me derek if you like rocka a is just a channel name check out liverpool exsprsee every man must have a dream its a must song julie loves it its one of her best songs from them im sure you can google them i was a big fan of that band but as you know im a big slade fan and not for getting quo its always great to see ya i always watch your stuff you do it so well happy summer alan when you doing a live
@@MotorHomeBeepBeepthe group that Mike McCartney was in was called The "Scaffold" under the name Mike McGear, he went on to have a solo career, the group "Liverpool Express" where formed I think in 1975 but did not include Mike McCartney
@@beatlebrian4404 THI BB thank you ever so much that's very interesting of course I do know the group The Scaffold because of their big hit Lilly the Pink but I didn't know the other things. It was nice he didn't try to trade off the surname McCartney and did his own thing.
Alan petes mot buried there,he was cremated and sprinkled near the hall they pkayed in.he thought the life insurance would help his partner and daughter,they dont payout for suicide.same band until the change with tom evens and the lead guitarist. 😊
Hi Judi Very interesting what is shame for the guy and his family afterwards
@MotorHomeBeepBeep I know,imagine seeing Pete hanging there,I wouldnt stay in the house.she had to go back to Scotland to support herself and daughter.pete was so talented,Americans for you.the one who signed them up had left,so they just should of carried on,or gone back to George Harrison.
Not true, my brother's life insurance was paid out after he took his own life aged 35. Maybe some don't but not the case in our experience.
@@jintygm your very lucky,they frown on that.
Apparently the name Badfinger came from John Lennons limitations upon the piano Badfinger boogie …..
Thank you Tony. I didn't know that interesting
It's a shame that Peter Ham and Tom Evans lost themselves and felt the need to do themselves in. They could have hired a lawyer and got their money, and then moved on. They could have toured for years and made a ton of money from their concerts.
I couldn't agree with you more
They did in the 80s... the legal firm said they could have got the money back, but the costs would have been more than the money recovered.
@@MisterBurtonshaw Ahh of course, not worth their financial effort. Sad but true for too many.
Love your videos.😊
Love your comments. Michelle
Hi Al- didnt know of Peter Ham - another good review mate keep going! 🏴
Thank you Carol where would I be Without You X
@@MotorHomeBeepBeepDitto👍