How Long Does Suboxone Withdrawal Last
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- How Long Does Suboxone Withdrawal Last
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Suboxone detoxification is a process of withdrawing from the drug under medical supervision. It usually involves tapering off Suboxone gradually by intaking reduced amounts of the drug over time. And ultimately, it can help people addicted to the drug withdraw and safely achieve sobriety. The detoxification process typically lasts for a few days.
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I don’t trust or respect suboxone prescribers. I would have been better off just coming of the opiates. Just because it’s legal, doesn’t mean it’s not a predatory scam.
True, however, in my case I went to detox for a week at a rehab. As soon as I was "free" to get more oxys I did. At the time I had just spent the last of savings so any more oxy purchases would have very negatively effected the household budget (basically I would have lost everything). I heard a commercial on the radio on my drive back home after getting oxys. As soon as I got home I started searching for a doc that could write a script for subs. That was in December of 2010, I just took my last dose of subs on 11/24/2022 @ 2 am. Subs may have saved me, I couldn't stop otherwise. As far as the doctor, he didn't have any issue with me being on subs for the rest of my life. I stopped because my doc decided to retire.
Yeah man this is worse than heroin. It's more addictive. Withdrawal is longer rougher
I had a Suboxone Dr. tell me there are no withdrawals with Suboxone!😳😳🤡amd another said i would probably be on it the rest of my life😳😳🤤🤬legal drug dealers !!😎i dont think so to both even tho the second one new it was difficult to quit 🖕
I agree I been on and off subs sense 2015 and now I been on them ever day for 3 years no useing but I have aniexity bad and pantic attack I've try all non narcotic meds so now I'm on Xanax.5 morning and night
It's like if I don't have the Suboxone I crave the taste and feeling and make me feel normal I don't get high just my body wants it I don't get it man you could hand me oxy and I would pick Suboxone over it weird man
Hearing the narrator pronounce “Suboxone” is almost as painful as the goddam withdrawal
Right!!!!😂
I thought the same thing 😂
It is HORRIBLE
Thanks for the giggle.
I hate been on it as well
For everyone currently struggling to get through the suboxone withdrawals,I promise you it gets better but it is a longer battle than getting off the drugs themselves. I'll be 4 years off suboxone(5 years off the drugs) in March and for me the physical symptoms lasted between 10-14 days but the emotional and brain fog symptoms lasted 10 months and I was only taking a quarter piece a day of an 8mg strip. The only thing that kept me going was knowing I'd never have to go through these withdrawal symptoms again once my body got used to feeling normal again. I set a goal date to quit and vowed to it.The withdrawal is hard as hell but let me tell you,once you get through it you'll be so glad you did. You can begin to truly live again. Keep with it,it'll be worth it in the end.
Thank u for the encouragement!!! I've been on this poison for 4 years and I lost my job, so I had to quit going to the dr cause I lost my insurance. I spent all my time and funds buying off the street and I'm so damn sick of not being normal. The withdrawal is far more worse than anything I've ever felt and I guess that fear of knowing how it goes, has kept me from being off of them completely. But the time has come and I just want to be sober, and I want to make something of myself and not have to chase this bs any longer.
@@OhioRiverFisherman you got this! It will be hard and I wanted to turn back to drugs and sobos so many times but I kept telling myself,no matter how sick I felt,that once I got through these withdrawals that I'd never have to go through it again and that gave me hope. I'll be praying for you,and everyone else struggling with the demon. It's hard but you got this!
Man reading this made me smile and gave me hope... I'm on 2mg now and feel miserable as fuck, made a vow to take my last dose on the 31st.. been doing this shit for such a long time and am fucking sick of it .. I want to live and be happy substance free
Im so scarred but its scarier being on Suboxone for ever.
im on day 340 but still cant sleep at night an really low energy all the time and shaking a lot feels like its been going on so long
I’m 64, 75 days off of Subutex. Still having severe insomnia, mood swings, racing thoughts and sometimes feel hypo manic but only in my brain. Detoxed from opiates at least 100 times during my 18 year opiate addiction. This is NUTS! I’m a RN, psych by experience and I’m telling you, this MAT is craZy. Doctors don’t taper patients off correctly, too fast. But, upside is, I have NO cravings and cannot even remember the euphoria high. PAWS is serious.🤬
I also have PAWS 😢
Not sure if you're interested in this or if you have the insurance for it but the injectable form a buprenorphine is called sublocade. This is a game changer concerning the withdrawal symptoms from a long half-life opioid based medication lake buprenorphine Suboxone sublingual. This s*** gets released real slow into your system and allows your body to taper correctly people report coming off their last shot and experiencing no withdrawal whatsoever.
Yeah man its fucking great to get off addictive opiates/opiods but to face another l9nger withdrawl that just drags the fuck on is tough.
I've had the buvidal injection and I'm 3 months off, the insomnia- this is how my weeks pan out so far over 7 days.
2 days no sleep, 2 days 2 hours sleep, 1 day 4 hours sleep then back to the no sleep for 2 days!!!
It's worse than a newborn 😂
Plus the mood swings because my brain is leveling out, the RLS is tough as fuck.
I've kept away from sleep medication in favour of natural remedies because we know where this goes....but I night just grab a few to help.
I'm starting to fade here.
Good luck x
This suboxone is worse coming off this shit than anything I've ever been on. God help me. 🙏 I will say a prayer for anyone going through this terrible affliction.
I wish you well. I am just starting to read this stuff. Sounds difficult.
What state do you live in?
@@nancynutt7632how are you doing in your journey to sobriety?
20 yrs clean and sober 👍
Worse than methadone
I’m 12 days clean and I’m not looking back this stuff ruined my life and I’m glad I’m on the right track
78 days clean now
@@Aksanders_98 nice man... 80 hours in...
@@TravisWard-yq1yq I’m 4 months clean now
@Aksanders_98 heck yeah, dude. I'm on day 2 and just seeing your comments are giving me hope.
@@DOiTAGAiN84 I’m on 7 months clean now
I'm 2 months into quitting without weining off after just over 10 years of taking it daily the first 2-3 weeks were s slog. The hardest part wasn't deciding to quit, it's choosing not to give in and take a piece. 2 months in, I feel great mentally and I'm loving my mental clarity and nit being DEPENDENT on substances. I'm still constantly fatigued and have trouble getting the energy to get through my work day but I get through it, everyday. My nights at this point are still hell. Mainly when I try and lay down, my legs are constantly irritated to the point I want to cry and just stay up all night pacing around my house and punching my legs. I have no access to medical care so I have to just do it. There's nights I literally get no sleep, then get in my truck n drive to work and get on a roof and go through the motions. I can deal with fatigue and soreness, my nights are the only thing that seem like I'm on a dark endless path with no light to be seen. But the improvement in my mental state outweighs it. I'm finding joy in not being a mental slave to addiction anymore after just about my entire adult life has been filled with it. I'm sticking on this path regardless how hard it is. I will NEVER touch suboxone again as long as live and that's a promise I've made to myself. It helps soooooo much, but the lingering effects are just unbearable at times. I'll come post a update to this comment in a few months and let yall know when I fully feel "normal" again, whatever that means. I just want to sleep at night and I'll be fine... wish me luck, it's 1 am CST right now and ...... yeah.
I’m on day 10 and it been HELL! I am traumatized for life from what I been through! I will never take a sub again in my life either! I hope I can be normal again whatever that is as well!
Let me know how your doing bro! I'm praying for you.
@Jennifer Wagner I’m in day 20 today and it gets so much better!!!! I actually feel Amazing!! I thought it would take about 30 days but I started feeling better about day 12 ish. Hang in there it does get better!!!
@Jennifer Wagner Good work. I've got 17 weeks today and SO glad I sick with it. I'm free.
@Jennifer Wagner How are you doing now? I’m ready to jump from 8mg, been on this for 2.5 years. I detoxed 60 mg of methadone at inpatient treatment and I thought I was going to die. I’ve heard it’s not as bad as methadone withdrawal and I can get RX sleep meds, RLS meds, and benzodiazepines to help.
I took suboxone for 12 years, I started with 32 mg every 24 hours back in 2010 but tapered down to 1mg every 24 hours (12 hours of peace, 12 hours of misery). My last dose of subs was 11/24/2022 @ 2 am, over 18 days ago. I still have no energy, chills, and a very bad attitude. The first week I slept less than 8 hours total, now I'm getting 2-3 hours sleep per night.
I don't mean to scare anyone but for the last 3 years I was doing 2 mg or less per day, tapered to 1mg the last month (my suboxone level was so low I was going into withdraw every single day) but after 18 days of no suboxone I still feel horrible. On a more positive note, I did find that listening to classic music that triggers good memories helps, free dopamine is naturally released. It does help.
KORN - FALLING AWAY FROM ME!!!
At 1mg buprenorphine, now im tryin to just lick the tab a couple times a day,lol😳🤤🤔🥱🥶🤬🤮only a few people i would wish this on! I found that rockin out does help!! thought i might be crazy! Might take away mental aspect👍👊🤘✌️💯
Crazy. I was put on 32mg about 4 years ago. I have been at 4mg for the last 2 years. Down to 1mg every 24hours. I will agree with you that the withdrawals are just as shite as the beginning was. Im trying to get off this crap. Been a huge burden on my life. But I am off H for 4years now so I guess that's the positive.
@@Corndogg-73jammin out?
Yeah I listened to heaps of music white WDing as well for some reason; often same song repeated countless times. Also cried a bit.
If you cant say suboxone right dont make a video on it
LOL
That was torture
clearly an AI, but i agree nonetheless
I was on 32 mg of subutex for 2 years then down to 24 mg just had a 2nd knee replacement and during the rehab decided i was done went from 24 down to .5 mg of belbuca for a week and I am now 32 days free from it compared to coming of off 240 mg to 320mg of oxy 80s and 25 to 30 norcos a day it was pretty easy the worst part was the insomnia only maybe an hr or two of sleep in 2 weeks and I am still having some insomnia and lethargy but overall pretty good I will be glad when those 2 things are over but I can thankfully say that after a 20 year opiod addiction and 4 plus years on buprenorphene i am finally free and never ever going back hang in there as it does get better
I heard the lower dosing in Belbuca helped with the process.
This mess is NOT a joke. I'll be 90 days off of suboxone in 3 days. My birthday will be 99 days. And man. This crap has took all I've had to get through it on my own. I tapered from 4mg to 0.25mg, and I wrote down my exact tapering schedule and the way I did it if anyone is in need of help. Basically went down slow, adjusted for 2-3 weeks at new dose, and kept going. Took me 4 months or so. Now its just PAWS a couple times a day. Ill get anxiety, sweaty, clammy, and diarrhea still, even at 90 days. But its mostly just in the evening from 5-8pm. Other than that ive made it man. Its the hardest drug ive ever stopped by FAR. Even with tapering. Dont quit. Keep moving. Eat healthy, shower often.
There is not "may" with these symptoms, you WILL experience all of them.
Damn right this shit is the devil I just wanna get off this shit like fuck
Lol fax
😂😂😂😂❤🎉 nailed it
I have done h/fent withdrawal and suboxone withdrawal cold turkey. Let me tell you right now that if your thinking about getting on suboxone don't. Just go cold turkey. If I knew how much worse the suboxone withdrawal was I would of never got on it. With the h/fent withdrawal it lasted 8 days of hardcore withdrawal then I wad good. With the suboxone the physical withdrawal wasn't as intense but lasted 8 times longer. I tapered down to a tiny sliver but when I made the jump it was hard. Not only did it last way longer. I had such a clouded foggy mindset for a few months. I couldn't make a simple decision like what I wanted to eat. I also felt suicidal. Never have I had that off dope. Suboxone sounds like a miracle drug but for the love of God don't do it. It is way worse in my opinion. If it wasn't for my wife I wouldn't of made it. Been clean 5 years now.
The whole total abstinence push works for a very few (about 5%), and is actually quite dangerous. If you stay on Suboxone you're no longer risk death and can immediately start getting your life in line.
I'm in the middle of the withdrawal now, been 12 days now. I'm effing angry, it's what's going to getme through. And my work, my son and partner. You told it how it is and I'm hopeful one day I can say I'm 5 years clean. This has to end .
@@leejaymac2994 stay strong man. I been there. Think of having your freedom and life back. Being a slave to that shit is no way to live. It's gonna be a hard but hey if I can do it you can to. Keep fighting the good fight.
@@dannymay2820 thanks bro
Being a slave to suboxone is a million times better than looking for drugs in the street. I’ve been on subs for 6 years and tapering down. But I’m only now trying to come off. Subs played an important role in my sobriety and has afforded me an incredible quality of life. I’m hopeful that coming off isn’t awful but for what it’s worth, it worked when I needed it to.
I was put on suboxone when opioids became evil. It took me 6 weeks to get off of OxyContin and 6 months to get off suboxone because I did not like the side effects. I never experienced withdrawal symptoms when I got off of the opioid for chronic pain related to a spine injury.
Was on it for 15 years. Till I finally got mad. Not at anyone but myself for looking weak. I was up to 8 mg max and then went to half ( 4 mg) a day. Then split the half in half and it still sucks. Withdrawal off of anything is hard. I don't care how strong you are. It is rough. But please don't quit nor give up and relapse
I’m crying right not now it hurts so back I’m 7 days in 3yrs on subs from percs. My skin is burning and this itchy feeling inside it won’t stop. 😔
@@Bubblesrv81 I understand. I did hot baths a lot. And it helped. Sorry you are going through this. But if you can just hold out for 30 days it turns then. The withdrawal disappears. Now strength, energy takes longer. I quit cold turkey. It sucks
@@Bubblesrv81 im in almost the exact same boat. today is day 8 for me. took subs after taking perks......I'm so pissed I even touched anything to begin with. I used to be full of life and now I'm trying to survive everyday. rls seems to have died down, but now my back hurts bad. I Hate this so much. 2 things are keeping me going, family and the fact I never want to feel this sh** again.
@scorpio-19"this comment was provided by...". Get out of here with that bullshit. If you were on "8 max" for "15 years" you're a good pharmaceutical representative. Damn! They're on UA-cam comments these days for the kids?! 😬
I'm on day 16 and still feel like I want to die. I preached suboxone to save people's lives and now I wouldn't reccomend it unless it's life or death. My opiate withdrawals were nothing compared to this monster.
@@cmderp what about the kratom? Getting off it?
@@cmderp I got some today to try! Thank you!
@@destinyhunt2751 IT'S HELL GETTING OFF KRATOM !!! Trust me, stay away from that stupid shit !! It's more of a demon than suboxone...
Just don't take too much, I'm taking it now, the suboxone withdrawal is soo long its insane, I'm taking like 10 capsules a day right now
I can agree with you more I’m on 0.1 for a week before 0.3 for 8 months and I get this panic attacks lol and depression is real I’m trying to jump but only thing that scares me in life is this shit I’ll fight bear over this evil
Although suboxone works, it shouldn't be long-term if you get cut off your meds for any reason, like losing insurance you will go back to old ways unless you made it to the point your getting clean for yourself and not because others want you to. good luck to anyone in the struggle it real.
yep, i went from subs to sublocade shots.. now about 6 months later i still have the excessive yawning and creepy crawlies as well as hot and cold chills.. and i keep finding ways to subdue it.. a buddy gave me a sub i split into 1/8s, i sipped some tylonol with codeine ... but all that is now gone and i am back where i started.. so basically i was just prolonging the inevitable. . fkn sucks. if i just stuck it out i would be ok by now, but mentally i don't quite feel ready i guess idk
Was on suboxone for almost 7yrs...inwould have been better off comming off the herion and morphine...been almost 7weeks and still struggling but the good days help me get thru the bad days...first time iver been completely sober in over 20yrs
I have did opiates for 4 years. Decided i want ti get clean. So i got in Suboxone a month ago . First 2 weeks i felt horrible. Asking my dr. She said i wasnt tsking enough. I got aniety really bad. So i tampered the next 2 weeks . Been off subs for 5 days. But the anxiety is super high . Brains foggy . Hope it gets better since i inly been on it for a month
The come off from this stuff is truly terrifying
Especially when when you get arrested unlawfully to a jail that is a non narcotic jail and have to stay there 2 weeks with a full script of buprenorphine In property! that was torture! Im At 1mg tryin to literally lick a tab twice a day😜you feel like it wont end!🤤🤔🤬and yeah im still on it after getting out of jail they released me and handed me my full 60 tab script and took one as soon as they gave it to me!😳😩🤪im determined to stop now, I’ve never had anything have a hold on me like this! Some people i talk to are fine being on it the rest of their life i cant do it. But i get it🥵🥶😱😳😤have to want it!
@@Corndogg-73 Dude I bet u didnt sleep much at all! Damn, what a nightmare!
Fucking horrible insomnia
@@demarcokante8870 Yeah it's hell
I'm on day 2 right now. Haven't slept in 48 hours. And still.going strong with everything you can think off. Fuck me dead !!
I went off after being on it for a year and the WD was not anything like regular opiate WD the key? Slow very slow and tapering dose. I was lucky to be on the tablets so I was down to mere "crumbs" when I stopped. My first day off I went to Atlantic city and swam and played the slots. Some nervous tics and mild depression for a few weeks but not bad at all. Have to,MUST Gotta! taper slow! After a year off I went back because of severe pain. fact is I am okay with that! If I must be on a pain medication, I will choose bupe any day. Got me past several surgeries too.
Im 5 days in and habe slept none. Skin crawling its the absolute worst. Im sick of it. I was manipulated into thinking ot was a saving grace. In all reality, it controls everything from no emotions besides anger or depression to took decay. Im not giving up. I broke my foot 6 days ago and then be told I to wait 3 days before any comfort of other meds was gut wrenching. I said you know what if ima suffer ima suffer. I keep up the fight. Feels like i started it yesterday but its been 11 years. Of 8/2.
holy shit man that has always terrified me, what if i get hurt and cant really take good pain meds anymore.. damn man sorry to hear that
@johnlombardo7816 bother foots healed and I'm off it! It gets better! I promise!
Can I tell you a big positive tho? While I was prescribed subs there were a couple times I broke a bone and they would not give me anything. Also I had a bad tooth before and had to suffer thru….at least now if I go to the er at least they might give me relief now. It really sucked having to suffer thru that
Good point, they tell you we can’t prescribe anything to relieve pain because the Suboxone blocks the effect of the med, however, I’ve found this not true
is 2mg/daily a high dosis?
I stopped 5 Days ago
I'm stuck on this $**t, now without a prescription because I couldn't afford the "group" fees in the program I was in.
I'm going cold turkey while still going to work (at Amazon of all places 😑) and it sucks. It feels like it'll never end!!
how you doin bud? im at work hating life too.. but well get there, keep pushing!
Listen I know ur grief friend but trust me as bad as it sucks you will eventually get through it..I did n at times u will want to give up but just get mad and tell ur self this sick is gonna be my last sick that is self inflected and tho it seems like its never gonna end it will...I'm sooo glad I finally rode it out n got through it I think the restlessness was the worst but find things to help urself to sleep some but make up ur mind to beat this ..I did and I am so glad I did...its awful having to depend on a pill just to feel kinda normal I prefer feeling just as I do now...don't need anything to feel nothing normal. Its a tough hill to climb but I promise its one u will be glad u climb..
I’m now in the process of tapering down this medication and getting off completely. It’s my next chance at a full recovery.
I've takin subxone half 8mg stripe for over 2 years this past year tamper down to like a small little piece, literally 1x 8mg sub last me 12 days. I'm 2weeks in off of it worst is the first week physically. Second week so far messed up sleeping, fatigue, just no energy. Hoping after a month or 2 I can be back to my old self. But I'm done ill go thru this he'll for a year if I have too if it get Mr back sober and normal per say. Quit smoking cigarettes also done with it all.
Cigarettes trigger me too I been clean n sober for seven months with a treatment center assistance but once I smoke cigarettes I want to drink, once I have a drink I want some weed, then I want to do pcp (embalming fluid) then prostitute then do high risk behavior activity all so many clusters of things going on at once that if I hadn't stopped then I would have been on worser drugs with the company I was keeping. I really had to learn how to deal with my emotions and being sober and abstinent I had one relapse and felt horrible and I'm glad I caught myself sometimes thank God we can catch ourselves and sometimes the guilt of relapse will cause a person to spiral out worse than ever but now I don't go certain places or be around certain people to do certain things. After all I took myself through I wouldn't go back for nothing in this world. God bless all who have to go thru substance abuse or alcoholism pray every body strength to beat any addictions in Jesus name.
@sharonwilliams4032 I agree ur environment has a lot to do with staying sober old friends places stress can trigger u at any moment. I'm 35 probley isn't a drug I haven't done but opiates is the one drug of choice its so hard tried many times never lasted but this time I'm sticking to it coming up on a month clean and it's getting better. Is more or less depression at this stage for me personally. But be strong and God 🙌
If i would have known how horrible suboxone withdrawl was i would have never started taking it..i have gotten off of heavy and long opoiod abuse easier than trying to stop suboxone and i didnt take NEARLY even a normal dose that is prescribed!!! Either way you should see a dr for wthdrawl from opiods ,but i highly recommend trying to get clean yourself..your literally trading one dependency for another
I’m scared cause when I went off methadone it took me seriously 9 months to feel better. I think I was going thru liver failure too at the time cause they say it’s not that bad but it was the worst thing I’ve come off of.
Now I was on subs for over 15 years and I was on 2 a day. I weened myself down to one a day to one every 3 days than I ran out. That familiar stomach pain is back. It already has been emotional. Subs mess with my emotions
Dude, you're not kidding at all about the methadone withdrawal. I went from 40 mg a day Cold turkey when I was put in jail for 7 days. At the time I didn't even know what withdrawal symptoms were or that they even existed. I literally thought I was dying and it was endless misery. All I wanted was for somebody to put me out of my misery.
@@RememberingWW2sorry to Hear that bro that's my worst fear withdrawing in jail. Hasn't happened have a close friend that went through it, how you doing now? You off of everything. Any withdrawl symptoms?
i want to quit kratom my friend tell me use subxone can help with body ache.can i really take it??
There is no withdrawal if you get the sublocade shot and use that to quit. Easy, zero withdrawal
Gabapentin was the only thing I had access to during Suboxone withdrawals cause I was also prescribed that, and was in transitional housing at the time. It definitely helped a lot, phenibut and lyrica (other gabapentinoids) will help A LOT as well. Kava and magnesium too.
Gabapentin doesn't seem to do shite for me. Maybe it's dosed too low...
Okay so let me ask you this. What exactly did the gabapentin help with???
For real, I don’t know why drs don’t prescribe gabba for withdrawal. Helps my rls, helps with sleep, helps anxiety.
@@onlythefamily7856 pregablin is what works best, it's magic stuff.
@@onlythefamily7856 anxiety, helps relax to induce sleep, RLS (my RLS was severe).
It's at least one year, longest I've lasted is eight months
On fentanyl should I not take buprenorphine? I dont think i can get off it any other way.
Use the Suboxone for withdrawal but that's it. Stop as soon as you feel good. You'll still go through a withdrawal but it's not as bad as a fent withdrawal as long as you stop taking the Suboxone fast. Don't get addicted to Suboxone next no matter what doctors tell you. Get a prescription pretend you'll get a refill and don't get it. Don't take the Suboxone to early in your fent withdrawal either or it will be the worst withdrawal of your life. Then when you start withdrawaling from Suboxone you'll think it's childs play compared to the fent withdrawal you had a couple days before you took sub.
Use the Suboxone for withdrawal but that's it. Stop as soon as you feel good. You'll still go through a withdrawal but it's not as bad as a fent withdrawal as long as you stop taking the Suboxone fast. Don't get addicted to Suboxone next no matter what doctors tell you. Get a prescription pretend you'll get a refill and don't get it. Don't take the Suboxone to early in your fent withdrawal either or it will be the worst withdrawal of your life. Then when you start withdrawaling from Suboxone you'll think it's childs play compared to the fent withdrawal you had a couple days before you took sub.
I lost my insurance when I moved states so I kinda have to go from taking 16 mg a day to taking nothing. I was on it for 2 years. Any advice ? (Can’t get medical help- no insurance)
That's alotl come off.. only thing I can think off is kratom and some benzos to help with sleep for the first 1-2wks
I tapered to .25 mg of Suboxone, then jumped off, I had minimal if any physical withdrawal, mental anhedonia though. I'm 3 months and one week off Suboxone
How long amd how much were u taking cause it looks like everyone that is or has taken it for an extended amount of time ie years like myself have 8 yrs consecutive with additional anxiety meds I have also been on s @ 1-2mg usually 2 I made it as far as 6 days amd it was insane comes on slow but intensity and does not let up and u cannot function I'm terrified I was curious if my anxiety mess I already take all prescription..gotta love big pharma (with every bit if sarcasm amd spite I have in me ) for shooting me so high and congrats to myself for getting so low but I have so many questions from real people that have attempted this for long periods of time 6 yr or more and ranging from max of 8 mg to higher it I just trying to find out what really I'm store in the next couple days
Or weeks for sure or months 🤮🤕🤒🥴😵💫🤯😰😱😭😣😖🥴😵😵😵
@@normankolsch I was on 6 mg for 5 years, tapered off over 2 more years, down to .25 mg. And stayed at that dose for 2 months
@@normankolsch if you taper down to a quarter of a milligram and you sit there for at least 8 weeks or longer you will have minimal problems, there will be long-lasting depression and anhedonia for a few months afterwards but it's not too unbearable it just kind of sucks but it will get better
@@normankolsch you'll be fine man, just follow my instructions and you should have no problems or minimal issues
I only used subs for 28 days knowing they are just as hard to quit! From 5 years sober to daily usage. Thanks to the mass medias spread of fear and panic during covid. Drove me back to where I thought I could find peace instead of the peace that surpasses all understanding! 🙏🏼
I was on 6 mg/day down to 2 mg/day with subs for 4 months. Day three and I have some symptoms but none as bad as kicking 18 mg/day cold turkey after 4 years. By day three back then I was already a wreck!
If your at a crazy dose like 24mg or even 16mg there is plenty of room to drop to a lower dose. It’s a potent medication. 8 mg is all you really need. At 4mg there’s still plenty of the drug still on the receptors in the brain. Lower than 2mg that’s where it gets real hard.
I went down to .5 mg for 15 days and was fine. when I went down to .25 mg i experienced symptoms after 4 days. This is day 54 free from subs and I'm just starting to sleep regularly.
@@rickp3753 that is great man. Quite the obstacle to overcome. Really man, kicking subs is probably the hardest thing I’ll face in my life.
@@ZyKLonBē Maybe. But you can do it.
@@rickp3753 so you took a half of a half milligram before stopping? I'm asking because my mom is trying to wean off she's only been on them for a month and wants off she was taking a half milligram a day so .25 in the morning and then .25 at night today she said she was going cold turkey you think she'll be ok?
@@joannaa5997Yeah, that's as good as you can get. Even .25 mg want doing anything for me so I started feeling light symptomsafter 4 days. Sneezing, yawning, and insomnia were kinda rough but I didn't feel dopesick at all. I took an antihistamine everyday, but the insomnia lasted a while. But I took subs for 16 years so it took a while. She'll be fine. 😁
I am worried
I have to quit opium for better future
It is very painful unimaginable
I am thinking of taking suboxone for a week before quitting
I took subs for over 2 years started on 8mg and the first week is the worst and it gets sooo much easier to deal with after so don’t think the way you feel initially is gonna last a full month it won’t I’m not taking anything but Tylenol and if I knew it was gonna be this easy(dare I say cuz it’s not) I would’ve quit this years ago everyone scares you into thinking it’s the worst thing in the world yes at first it’s kind of bad but it’s nothing like the heroin withdrawal if you taper down I literally just quit from .25 mg tapering down every 2 weeks and it feels like the flu but with bad muscle cramps everyone’s different obviously just don’t give up it’s not as bad you think it’s gonna be
Should we assume our physician will answer our calls? This comment was not aimed at anyone other than the video itself.
Really the only thing that helped me & first was when I asked my doctor for the sublicade shot. I was prescribed suboxone for 5 years. They gave me 3-4 months worth of the sublicade shot, and then called my doctor and told them I’m done. Got off the shot and felt ZERO withdrawal symptoms. It was strange I know. But it was also a pain in the ass to get the shot ordered down to the doctors office. So I had to wait days, or a week after the 30 days wore off for my next shot. But still, no pain in between each shot.
Glad you are feeling well. But isn't that because of the timed release nature of the shot(s) of, essentially, Suboxone in your body? No disrespect, but sounds like you are not off Suboxone yet.
Day 1 is about to start.
you got this my friend! most important thing i find is get your mind off it!!!! if you ever exercised a day in your life, start now,. morning, wake up, walk.. get home from work walk or jog.. lift weights, whatever you can do.. and as others said, music apparently helps as well, which i dont think i even realize helps because thats the only time im not thinking about it
@@johnlombardo7816does nothing. Nice tryna help tho
Day 11 for me off suboxone its been a long time coming, ofcourse it helped me get off the hard drugs
I know for sure that itll be worth it in the end, is what i developed my patience and willpower for, i know i can do this
The worst week of my life was when i went 7 days no subs i thought i was dying! Sitting around suffering through the day was the easy part! I could hardly move, i just cried all day, very irritable, but it was night time that was the worst. I couldnt sleep but longer than 1 hour, then id be up for 3 , id wake up my whole body hurt soooo mad and was on fire!! The inside of my body was on fire!!!!! That was fhe worst part for me. Oh and i finally went to the emergency room on day 7, they treated me like shit!!!! Didnt help at all! Gave me 2 percs 😢I got back on them and now i want to taper down and get off these things! They helped me stay off hard drugs,but theyre a drug in themselves! Way harder to get off of then any other drug. I personally do not recommend!
I think if they put someone on subs they shouldnt be on them longer than 1 year.
First off, respect and support for your efforts to get clean, sister!
I tapered Suboxone down to micro little crumbs of the orange. But when I totally stopped, I was in hell and pain for 3 weeks. And mu mind and body were off and not feeling good until about a year later.
It was worth it, though. Knowing you did not have to chase down drugs in orfder to not jonesing.
Relapse is part of the process so please do not despair! When you're ready, give it another try.
Main thing: That physical hell and crushing fatigue feel like forever. But you WILL come through on the other side and get yourself back.
And I love you for trying!
Amen, it is a great way to get clean from the drug addiction life but my sister and one of my good friends have both been on suboxone for over 10 years now..that is crazy that just says to me from the pharmaceutical companies "we jut want your money" it's crazy
First, respect for trying to get clean. I mean that. Takes guts to do the right thing.
I was addicted from prescription painkillers. Tried to quit but I did not taper. two or three days of hell, I was prescribed Suboxone. Completely relieved withdrawal symptoms., But as someone who wanted to get clean, I realized I was now still addicted, But to a drug that did not give a high. Lose-Lose situation. I did eventually detox off Suboxone. It was living hell and, I am told, takes much much longer than opiate withdrawal.
We each have our own recovery. And Sister Nicole, I salute you for your courage and aim at getting clean.
@@nicoleterrell9295 How’s it going? Definitely have some friends who got off of Subs with Tyne sub shot! I’m currently down to 1mg a day. About to cut again soon trying to Ween down to about nothing before I jump
*Suboxone withdrawal symptoms typically last for one month, but may vary depending on the duration of use, dosage, alcohol use, and other factors.*
5 months. That's how long. It's the most nightmarish yet strangely fond memory... 2 years this March 18. Magnesium glycinate Methylated b complex, vitamin C complex, vitamin D, IODINE, Trace Minerals. That's the best you can do while going through this and those will work if you stick with it instead of that rectangular orange hell hound. Much love
It was a strangely fond memory for me too. But it wasn't too hard! If I can have this, anyone can
Don’t understand why and how doctors prescribe something stronger than heroine to treat patients withdrawal could be deadly benzodiazepine withdrawal is almost worse than opioid withdrawal and they are prescribed like candy
I’ve been on suboxone 4 years. Ready to get off so I got prescribed some Valium. (Only to take at the start) It’s helping but still feel some symptoms
@@dustinsanchezmusic5851 God bless you brother❤️🙏🏽✊🏽
Tbh the best way to not feel the suboxone is to drink alcohol lol .. sad to say but its true
SUBOXONE saved my life! I used opioids for 15 years, and then I decide to start Suboxone! I am on day 3 of weening by myself, and right now I feel a thousand times better than I did when I was in withdrawal before Suboxone.
Hay peeps ❤
I took my last 2mg. Of Suboxone on July the 12, . I was on it for 7years. I am now well into being off it,and I'm feeling amazing!
Never EVER give up on yourself! Freedom is possible 🙌 🙏 ❤
@@janycebrown4071 congrats janyce, I am on day 4 of withdrawals after being on 8mg strip a day for 5 years as well as benzo withdrawals currently so its very rough. I went to detox an they took me off both on Saturday and now i am on day 4 1/2 but it doesn't get easier.. having pretty bad anxiety as well as all the other physical symptoms.. I pray you stay clean an everyone else that is facing addictions can bear it
@@janycebrown4071 I was down to much less than 2 mg of Suboxone. Much less. And still suffered withdrawal when I stopped taking it altogether. Suboxone is so effective attaching to our opioid receptors that tapering off, unfortunately, is not effective the way tapering off Oxies etc. 8 mg or .25 mg, really does not make much difference once you totally stop. If I had it to do over again, I would taper off the opioidal drug of choice. And, ideally, beginn tramadol and take 6 months to taper off the Tramadol. Suboxone is really good for addicts who go cold turkey. But getting off Suboxone is unpleasant and prolonged.
Still doing well 🥳
@@janycebrown4071
Yay, janyce! Glad to hear it! Thanks for sharing your story how you kicked Suboxone and got clean.
Epic!
Many try. Most fail.
You rock.
im in hell
There are new treatments that can have you free of dependency of this medication within five days . Recently, it was only in Canada where you could get this treatment. We have a facility in Florida that just recently came into the picture. It is a five day procedure where the doctor clean out the block of the receptors of the feel good hormones. Trying to do it. Cold turkey is impossible and very very dangerous healthwise. Tapering just a sliver, feel like a major dosage decrease. It’s best to go with these clinics from what I’ve learned. What scares me is that you’re under anesthesia for at least five hours while the doctors clean the receptors
Soboxon 7:52 withdraw now and no taper it in stance 7 years
Are you talking about naltrexone?
what treatment?
@@johnlombardo7816fr lol this idiot said a whole lotta nothin
It took me about 3 HARD months up to 6 months of detox cold turkey after 10 years of use age from pain from car accidents!!
I'm on day 22 of detox I was on it 17 years it's hell
IT AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A STEP..FOR A STEPPER! don't let youtube AI vids freak you out! You been sick b4..Sick is On the Way to Well!
To me about 1 year to feel myself after quitting
Kratom and Gabapentin take away 100 per cent sub withdrawal.
How much kratom/gabapentin did you need to take?
@@briirow7925take this from me, it does absolutely nothing
I had a vicious opiate addiction and quite cold turkey and should have got away from these so called doctors, instead got talked into going on suboxone it would help me, got down too 2mg a day and quite, its been 17 days now in withdraw and no end insight, if I can offer any advice stay far away from suboxone!!!
Really? 🤦♂️ I totally feel for you as I'm doing the same now myself. It's not horrible I feel it's doable it's just uncomfortable I guess it's that always having it type thing that's a killer so should I work nights and sleep during the day . It's definitely not an easy task I would say
For how long did you take the suboxone?
@@ROORabuser was 2 and a half yrs- withdraw lasted 2 months
@@marthamcgill5807 did you know that suboxone and methadone should be taken for 4 weeks max? Just to detox from heroin. I bet the doctors did not tell u that. I am taking 2mg sub right now just to come off that shit=heroin I was totally at my lowest with the addiction. I think i will take the sub for a week max. I am goin to make it drugs are poison!
@@ROORabuser i think docs think keeping you on longer minimizes relapse, and in the past i was in rehab and then relapsed, but i will not forgive what my doc did to me because i had quit fentanyl cold turkey without taking subs right away, wasnt told it would be 100 times worse coming off the subs. The fentanyl withdraw was 11 days of hell, but the subs being two months, and still not myself, like others say depression, low energy, poor sleep etc. There should be a black box warning on the subs like there is for other drugs! From what i understand with methadone, its worse coming off that, some stay on that stuff forever, or, they have to be weaned over to subs if they want off methadone.
Point is , have talked to my doctor about how to adventual get off this stuff, which I hear they have new ways now. I'll keep you updated. John
I was on this soul stealing garbage for 8 years. Been off since 13 July quit at 2mg. The only thing as I can say is got to FORCE yourself to stay busy. I worked thru the entire withdrawals just got to push yourself.. no fucking surrender to this junk.
I’m approaching week 4 being off it, does it get better soon? I read some people it took over a month some said 5 months
@@nikkimariaxo7665 keep pushing!! I think the hardest part is the mental battle of trying to feel normal after using that crap everyday. Staying motivated and staying positive. Don’t give up.
will i perceptive withdrawal if i havent taken percocets in months and just take 1 opioid then go back to using suboxone
I wouldn't bro,keep going forward
@@ryancorroll4667 thanks for the advice but its hard n i just wanna get high n forget
im on day 9. want off suboxone? i took tramadol twice a day for a month. then i withdrew from tramadol and that was not bad AT ALL. i am completely clean from everything today. I was on suboxone for about 5 years and taking lowest dose.
Going through withdrawal. Someone please tell me it gets better. I feel like im literally dying. Im very emotional at this point. Just need a little bit of hope to get by
How you holding up m'bro?
Was doing 8mg a day before jumping off.
I'm into the early hours of day 4 ATM
Moods all over the place and feeling generally uncomfortable.
Hope you see this, hit me back. Stay strong. Good luck
@@jk7753 it took a full month to heal and it was hell. I still feel lethargic even now but at least I can sleep and no more pain. Suboxone withdrawal is hell on earth.
@@jk7753 the pain goes and discomfort went away after a full 3 weeks im not gonna lie but everyone is different. Good luck and don't get discouraged. It's worth getting off of.
I am approaching day 4. Misery loves company. I was on 4mg for 5 years. Tapered and jumped from .5 but it's still hellish. I have all of the physical symptoms and some anxiety/depression. Really hoping this will get better soon!
4 days in after 3 years…I don’t feel like shit but I don’t feel normal
I bet you're not feeling too hot now are ya bud? Hang in there man, it gets better.
Give your time months to adjust minimum. You will start getting your natural chemicals back.
Homeostasis is a beautiful thing.
Yeah- I’m a week in and feeling way less than normal! I also don’t feel horrible- I was on out just about a month and based on reviews, knew I had to taper off as soon as possible. Good luck to you and I hope you’re still doing well. ❤
I was only taking suboxone for a few months and I been clean now for a week but my rls and insomnia is insane ? Anybody have any idea how I can sleep ?
3 very hot showers a day. And, it is really hard, exercise. Just walk for 20 minutes to start. Helps.
Hang in there! You CAN get to the other side of this hell.
For rls Akinetone helps. Its a parkinson medication that really keeps your legs still.
you can use Xanax or daizapam for sleep
2months off after 10 yrs and i can feel that tingle in my balls again😳LETS GOOOOOO!😎fk SUBOXONE👺
When I first read this I was like wtf, then I remembered. I didn't orgasm for a year or two, when I stopped subs just lightly brushing up against me caused 🎉. Lol
lol thanks for the laugh. We all need it. And i know exactly what you mean. Lol
I will also say the clinic I was going to allowed me to taper from 4mg to ZERO in one month!! 75 days in, insomnia, mind racing, emotional roller coaster. I’m a RN and I should have researched this drug. My bad, but I was sooo desperate for help. 2.8 years on Subutex, I’m 64, I wonder if my age is prolonging this BS?
no, its just the drugs.. be wary(as you likely now know) of anything, i mean anything prescribed by docs who have gone to the rockefeller college systems
Sorry bro
@@theresasousan2124 How are you doing? Are you still off if Subutex?
Doctors soboxen available now early health
So I'm on day 3 it's April 21 and I quit going to the Dr last year in Dec but I just ran out of my prescription how crazy is that
I quit my doctor back in November. Weaning off the sub is terrible. I'm down to 1 mg a day and pain is horrible. They switched me from fentanyl to sub because the doctors are scared of the DEA taking their license. This shit is awful and doesn't help with pain much. How are you doing?
I honestly don't know when it will end, I was taking fentnyl then tons of suboxone, weaned down to a half MG still sick as hell, started taking 10 kratom capsules a day, i feel okay but now I can't tell if I'm sick in the morning from subs still or kratom, I think it's the subs because I've used kratom to get off it before and it worked fine no real withdrawal, I feel like every sub I took is taking at least a week to come off of
It is the Subs, for sure.
It takes 3 days to get off heroin real plain old heroin..... it took me six months to get off of methadone, after I stopped taking it.
The only thing that truly worked for me was to move from the strips to the shot. I had al.ost no withdrawal from the shot whereas I was really sick from the strips for over a month in rehab. There was nothing mild about it. It was a lot like coming off of methadone.
So you recommend the shot. I wasn't sure about it
You were off strips for a month and then went to shot? Or..? Would much appreciate a reply. Thanks and glad you got it worked out.
It's hard it is but you have to try and keep busy fill in your day stay off the couch keep the suicidal thoughts and depression out. Drink coffee and smoke butts all night you can't sleep anyway. Remember fuck that your better then some orange strip. Keep trying to tell yourself that keep. Taking showers tell your self your better then tha.
Used kratom to get off on day 20 still getting the chills taking way less kratom but is lingering. Dont give up if your reading this im thinking it takes a full 4 weeks
how many kratom pills at a time did you take?
Yeah Im going through that bs right now. I felt better when I had Covid. Id rather have covid than this bs. Id rather get back on pain pills.
Bro I’m on day 4 cold Turkey and yesterday around 5 and all night was litterally pure hell. Restless legs big time. I feel your pain. 3 years of 2 strips, I drop down to 1 strip last month and just cold Turkey it from there. I just keep wasnt to say fuck it and get back on, but the shits evil. Saved me yes but they never tell you these details and never plan on taking you off
Im litterally seeing the doc right now to get my script. I never slept, I cant work like this, cant have relstionships, friendships, nothing, and I cant tell anybody how I really feel. Yeah ypu are right, stuff is bad news, prob worse than the percocet. Im in all kinds of pain. I avoid people because I feel so bad. I hope you get past it. I went 8 days cold turkey last year and felt horrible still. I smoked weed but I dont do that anymore. I dont drink either. 3 yrs sober from the drink.
I mean ANR
Listen I’ve been doing subs for almost a year 2mg is it going to be hard to quit
Yes it's terrible but it's worth it
Not if you taper down reducing your 2 mg by 10-20 percent every 7-10 days. If you have some withdraw skip you reduction for a couple of days or go back to your previous dosage until withdraw stops. Then begin the taper again. You don't have to have the serious withdraws that you are reading about. almost all of these extreme withdraw symptoms are from not tapering slowly. And you can always use kratom short term.
Today is technically Day 1 for me. I have been taking 1/18 (a 1/2 of a 1/2 of a 1/4) for a few days now & it’s doing nothing, so I have decided to just bite the bullet & stop it all together. My body is tired, but the worst thing I’m dealing w/ is RLS & insomnia due to RLS. I’m seeing ppl say it can take mths for physical symptoms to stop & even longer to feel mentally okay. I just need to know how long this first physical stage is. I read it’s abt ten days. Y’all, I am trying to be strong, but this sucks & it would be so easy to just take it & make it stop. The entire reason I’m quitting is b/c I have been on it for thirteen yrs, since I was twenty or so. I haven’t been right since I got on it. I lack motivation & I can’t lose weight b/c I’m always hungry due to the medicine. I know my brain chemistry is fucked. My biggest fear is it’s been too long & my brain will never recover. 😅
I went from 28 grams to 16 daily and trying to ween off altogether. Please hang in there!
I'm almost 6 months free. The insomnia and RLS are challenging but hang in there. I feel physically stronger than i have in a long long time. You'll be so glad you jumped. I'm free!
@@rickp3753 I am so happy for you!
@@rickp3753 Rick how about the depression part is it get any better man im almost 4 weeks off no physical WD but in 4 weeks I can count 5 days only been good without depression rest is just nuts dark in my head I hope it goes a way
@@leonidtodorovski635 I had no depression. I'm exercising and THAT is great for depression. Hang in there my friend it gets better. You won't be sorry you endured this. I'm stronger than I've ever been. Kicking subs gives confidence.
If u can get thru just 4 weeks ur good !!! The pain is the worse , shoulders , back ,neck ,thats what makes u or breaks u
You mean legs and feet. And no, it lasted a year for me.
@@Pax_Mayn3 sucks
Shoulders and restless legs
Can’t sit around. Get up, get moving. Try to find pleasure in simple things.
I had to get off subs. I was 100 percent out of pocket and it was cheaper once to buy them on the street. Unfortunately, you gotta deal with unscrupulous dealers
Dumb question here. How long can you take Suboxone before you become addicted? I've been taking them almost a month...how much trouble am I already in?
Will someone please answer my question? Thanks
Not a doctor, but I am a past fent user and now on Suboxone. I have taken suboxone for 2 years from 24mg (1 month) then 20 months on 1.5-2.5 mg daily, then I tapered to .2-.5 mg a day and now I’m on 3 days off of it and it is about 5-10 for pain. NOW I will say that Suboxone clouds your brain heavily and messes with you, but in my opinion it is a great tool to get off h/fent. IF I WERE YOU I would take out all your medication and something to cut it with(I use a razor) then take out your dose and cut off a sliver the width of a dime, then fold that up and write the date of tomorrow on it then take out the next days done and cut off two dimes width, keep doing that till you are down to one tiny piece the width of a dime then taper off that size of dose for 5-7 days then cold turkey 🎉 think of sub as a tool to taper off your dose don’t take it like I did for 2 years because after 6 months you will realize how much it clouds your brain and affects your motivation to do stuff.
@@rebelmetal4233 That depends. Have you never taken opioids before in your life and you are just taking suboxone for the first time? If its your first time using an opioid, then you might be lucky and wont feel to much coming off of it. If youre using it as a substitute, then probably your body is addicted to buprnorphine now. Try not taking any for a few days and see how you feel. Then you have your answer ;-)
Depends on how many strips you take a day...
From what I have gathered a month isn't too bad. Basically anything over six months becomes holy shit. And over a couple years becomes borderline impossible. Acts of god are needed. And its crazy, the world doesn't have any idea the strength it takes. They just still look at people like they are weak. I know plenty of successful people that couldn't do this if their lives depended on it.
The longer your on, the harder it is. Also your starting point. If you had a tolerance of 80 mg oxy prior to subs... it won't be near as bad as 1000 mg equivalent. I came from poppy tea, and i was basically dead. My equivalence was about 1500... give or take another 500 mg equivalent. I should absolutely be dead. Suboxone absolutely saved my life and then ruined it.
They actually let me break the rules and prescribed me four strips a day to start. I still withdrew for months after getting on suboxone. As soon as I leveled out... i had the instinct and need to taper myself without even knowing. I just weened down and down. I thought it was hard to get down to three strips... but i was just still traumatized from some horrendous deadly withdrawals prior to subs and the fact i withdrew for months and months. My doctor told me i should be able to drop from 3 strips to 2 with almost no problem. I did so immediately and he was right. Next to no difference.
Then going from 2 strips (16 mg) to 1 (8 mg) was a bit tough but not too bad. Took my time. But around the 4 mg mark is when it started becoming really bad. Completely incapable as a human being. Literally couldn't tell you what love was anymore. Felt like a fucking sociopath for about a year. Out of my fucking mind. And I just got so sick of being a shell of a waste of a human I started tapering down pretty quick. Then I looked shit up and everyone suddenly was flipping out about how suboxone is the devil. I knew it somewhere inside. But it really only came out big in the past couple years.
Been racing to microscopic amounts since about a year ago. I basically have slightly withdrew every day for years. Tiny breaks i gave myself. It took for fucking ever.
Withdrawing from poppy seed tea was the most excruciating thing anyone could do. People die from it. Its like the thing people actually die from. Or extreme amounts of heroin for like a decade. My tolerance was not ok remotely. I had a tolerance that is impossible for most people on earth to achieve because of money. I had ways of obtaining an enormity of it that i was able to completely end my life with. I cannot believe i survived. And i really was adamant my whole life about never becoming an addict. I was in dire straights back then. Hell on earth.
It depends on where you are with a lot of things. How long you are on them is one factor of many. Say you are on 8 mg for a month... I would do a quick taper for 2 or 3 weeks and see how it goes. It's important to get off quickly, but also important not to disrupt your system so much that you go back to it. But it's a race. It really is around that time. the shorter your are on, the better. But it does not mean it will be easy.
Just do your best as quick as you possibly can.
I am currently beating it. My health is pretty bad now and i have to take a microscopic amount sometimes just to sleep. But I have gotten to such a small amount that I can even feel my body has started making up for the absence of the drug. I have gone a few days without completely but my health doesn't permit me never sleeping. So I am basically stuck at the very end again but I can do it. There's times I am withdrawing and already get relief now and then. I am pretty sure the last jump won't be too bad.
Don't get to this point. There are a million traps along the way.
Restless leg is horrible
It's a catch 22. When suboxone gets you off opiates you will appreciate it. After that it is hell. There is no disclosure on how hard it is or how long it will take to get off it. If they wanted to help they would make a med that targets the symptoms of withdrawal. It could be done easily using a amphetamine base. Only on an individual basis can we make these decisions. I've been on subs for 12 years and have wanted off it for 10. It's hell.
Kratom is just a different part of the same hell man. Trust me, Don't start taking that crap. It will steal your soul....
@@rudyferrell I've been contemplating it for weeks now and want to be past ALL meds. I'm appreciative of the advice. I just don't wanna suffer anymore.
@Heads up oh man, I COMPLETELY understand where you're coming from, trust me. I'm 49 and have been going round and round with this crap for over 30 years. Trust me man ,if you get on kratom you will most definitely continue to suffer. The longer you stay on it, the more hell it is getting off of it. But if you're like me then you'll try it out for yourself. I'm just giving you a heads up. Research the withdrawal from it though.
i finally am free from suboxone and i did it by taking tramadol twice a day for a month. after a month i stopped tramadol and the withdrawal was super mild. not at all. i’m on 9 of nothing
tramadol keeps withdrawals
away completely
Never ever ever take this medication!!!!!!!!!?
It's much easier to come off than methadone. I came off of 16mg of subs without cutting down. Not a great idea but it was really not that bad for me considering the amount I was on (still not easy but way better than other opioid drugs). I did get very hyper and did or got talked out of doing some very stupid things. The physical withdrawal was really not that bad (compared)but it did last a long time. The worst of it was getting to sleep and pain in my lower legs the latter lasted for months. Methadone was a whole nother animal. Even cutting down really slowly (at most 2mg a week) I had restless legs syndrome, all over body pain, insomnia, depression, fatigue etc etc and all before even stopping (which I never managed to do. I stopped the reduction at 18mg). Awful drug!
I would have much rather go through a weeks cold turkey from Heroin than this I was told it wasn’t as bad as full agonist Methadone which was utter hell!
Almost two weeks now and stomach problems, yawning, sneezing etc but the insomnia and affect on your mental is by far the worst
Even after getting through medthadone detox in a Christian rehab I wasn’t comfortable in my own skin at all and the depression just got my back on a Subutex script a few weeks later so I’ve been on it for like 6 years in between meth
Like I said if you do go on this make it a max of a month then taper right down and get help
Im feeling horrible
how about now? I'm on day 6 and feeling ok...was on for 8 years.
Remember guys these people were on it for so long that’s why the withdrawal was so bad
Believe it or not cigars really helped with the symptoms. If your looking for relief it definitely helps.
What about cigarettes?
How is a month of withdrawal better than a week off of opioids or opiates ???
It's been 2 months for me. Going on 3rd. Still miserable. On them 2 years
But your right. 1 week for opiates.
@@jillw892 Did you taper down off Suboxone slowly, or did you quit cold turkey? I've been in recovery for almost 5 years and I've seen many people successfully taper down to 1mg with almost zero side effects.
One month of feeling a little icky COMBINED WITH continuous therapy long after Suboxone has been stopped and withdrawals have subsided, is a million times better than being hooked on street narcotics, especially if they're used intravenously. That's the idea, anyway. But where I live, there's no "few months on Suboxone"; it takes about 3 months ON Suboxone to get comfortable and knowledgeable about the program (group and individual therapy sessions, drug screens) that goes along with the medication and the doctor's visits. When I first started Suboxone, I was being Rxd 1 week of medicine at a time, being required to come to both a weekly doctor appointment for my refill and a weekly group therapy session, and an individual therapy session every 2 weeks. After 3 months of following those requirements, I was moved up to group and individual therapy sessions 2x a month, same with doctor appointment for refill. I'm currently seeing my doctor (for Rx) my group and my individual therapist once a month. When Id fail a drug screen, I'd move down a step for 90 days, then if I'm clean for those 90 days, I'd move back up. And that's how it's been for almost 5 years. I don't think 3 months of Suboxone is all it'll take to keep someone from relapsing, not at all.
@@ItsJustJessOkay pass 1 is the real challenge
Man I’ve been on this shit for 3 years and tbh I’m scared to come off man. I wanna tapper off but I KNOW IM NOT READY in the back of my head. I got on this because I couldn’t stop shooting hydro morphine and dope, and even tho I don’t have craving now and haven’t I feel like if I tapered I would but I wanna so bad. I’m literally 140 pounds anymore it’s bad.
If I can do it you can do it my friend. Taper down to the smallest possible piece, then start skipping days. Then start skipping two days. Some of these comments are exaggerated. I agree it's not fun but if you really want it I think you'll be surprised that it's easier than you thought.
You have to have the mindset of embracing the pain of it. Rather than thinking of it as pain think of it as your body healing & embrace it. That small change in my mindset made a world of difference
I took it for 16 years and tapered last November. Just keep taking it bro. I knew i was ready to come off it and I'm free now. But if you think you're not ready, don't risk it. Coming off isn't as bad as they say. I was never dope sick. I just had insomnia.
@@rickp3753Terrible advice all around.
Your right anger is a big side effect but theres nothing wrong with anger
Gotta get a little angry or you got no shot
I made the jump from 4mg cuz I ran out and couldn’t afford to see all these extremely expensive Drs plus the medicine with no insurance. So I said screw it. I’ve detoxed off heroine in jail more times I can count on both hands and it was fucken down right torture….. getting off suboxone for me is a walk in the park with annoying people that don’t shut the fuck up….. I’ll take that little longer withdrawals over the torture of dope ANY DAY! Oh and don’t jump from 4mg try to get down to the smallest amount possible
Hands down agree. Subs, Ive done... but id rather die than go through heroin wd again
Kicking horse cold turkey in the joint: I can't even imagine how tough that must be.
Respect.
Ok so you can get off of Subs slow and steady taper over a long period of time: if you feel too bad take another small sliver slow and steady wins that race
Get sleep...as I'm suffering severely with insomnia. Sounds doable!
Nearly impossible to get any real sleep first weep of buprenorphine WD. Even after heaps of alcohol and sleeping tablets, no chance.
Suffer through it all day, then suffer through it all night. Repeat until truly insane
I have a friend, she is fighting this now and I introduced her to kratom, the herb that now saves my life from my own past addiction to morphine. This is the world now and it's disturbing. I know I survived addiction but would never wish it on anyone.
Kratom is the devil too! Was on it got 2 Years and felt like I was dying trying to come off. It's just as bad as the rest and I don't understand how it's legal. I thought at first it was fine cause it was an herb but try to come off it and experience what I did and you'll definitely agree it's EVIL 😊
Good job, you got her addicted on another substance! Kratom is just as bad! Trust me, I did it for 2 1/2 years before even touching opiates and the withdrawals were almost identical to suboxone and lighter opiates. The worst for me, is the gut rot and hormone imbalances that kratom caused. People don’t realize how badly that screws up your stomach as well as your hormones. I was constantly and still am hyperthyroid. On top of that, I have to be on a very specific diet to not go through constant bloating and acid reflux because of the kratom. I literally can’t even touch alcohol anymore, either, because the kratom screwed up my stomach so badly, I can’t even process alcohol correctly to the point where it can’t get rid of the poison that ethanol naturally has in it. If I have even one beer I have a severe allergic reaction. Sound fun? I think not! Don’t do kratom, either. Sometimes you have to just buck up and push through.
I watched someone taper all the way down from 8 mg a day to a 1/16th of a milligram, about a 10-20% reduction per week , and had virtually no withdraw . Jumping off at 1-2 mg is equivalent to jumping from a 40-80 mg oxy habit, unwise . Keep the taper going people, y'all jumping from too high . At least taper down to a 1/4 of a milligram , transition to some short term kratom for the final stretch if need be.
Kratom is awful for most people. I tried stopping methadone via kratom and wanted to die! Then I went and detoxed 60 mg methadone inpatient at a treatment center. I’ve been on 8mg for 2.5 years and now ready to stop. Any advice?
@@amandaruck9744 Yes. Save up a year worth of money, and then throw away your phone so you can't call for anything. Have people cook you food and things like that, and then just suffer. I didn't have to work at the time, but it was acute withdrawal for months, and horrific symptoms for years.
You might not get it as bad as me, but, it's basically impossible unless you can sit around and do nothing for VERY long periods of time.
Youre supposed to taper to less than 10mg methadone and then use kratom.... But since you switched to subs youre gonna have no options since it blocks everything. Youd have to go 4 days or so without and then try kratom, maybe sooner, it all depends. But you need to get down to like a quarter milligram, even less.
I feel for you, I really do. Id honestly say switch back to methadone, then switch to morphine, oxy, heroin etc and withdraw from that. The doctors lied to you. Either way you have to withdraw, so do you want to go through an EXTREMELY long and intense withdrawal? Or a short withdrawal? Doctors are evil.
Sublocade withdrawal lasts a lot longer. Both are buprenorphine but the longer acting nature of sublocade go on and on for months.
Everyone on tiktok is saying sublocade is the way to go to get off suboxone without withdrawal
@@bethwils05 There's withdrawal. Sublocate is an opioid and a powerful one. Its a useful too but there's no free lunch.
@@angusyates828I’ve been taking this shit at 13 how do I get off it bro
I've taken my last dose 9 days ago and still feel like complete shit