@@cakeassassin6277 and there is Aita, so there are 10? 9 sitting round the table plus Loki plus Aita, wait wait Juno was in Jotunheim too, so is there 11 or was Juno sorting around the table too Hyrrokin is Juno, hyrrokin is the daughter of the ruler of the Jotun, does this mean we can scratch off Juno as a sage, as for Juno to be reincarnated as a Jotun then she would have to have used the machine, unless when we see hyrrokin as a Jotun that is actually us seeing Juno but with a Jotun appearance and she is really in her isu form, not reincarnated as a Jotun, does this also mean we can scratch of Minerva and Jupiter as sages too? Also what is the isu version of Mimir then if that's the real Juno at Mimir's well?
I'm still relatively new to the lore of assassin's creed, so I'm not sure if this is possible, do you think both Desmond and Layla will ever come in some form of physical body or will they stay in the gray?
Hi! I just have a question, how could bassim lived all through these years but desmond tells Layla that her body will decay shortly, how could this be possible?
The franchise gonna face another catastrophe if they keep breaking their own laws of the AC Universe, like killed the main protagonist in the main game (Desmond) and killed the main villain in the comic (Juno)
I knew King Alfred was the Grand Master from the moment the order tree unlocked because Ubisoft did a shit job with his portrait, you can clearly see a crown.
Yea, I preferred the masks from Odyssey. The hints weren’t good enough, no, they had to go and make this opaque shadow shit that if anyone had a good pictographic memory would 0 in on quick.
I knew quite a few of them from those bad shadow things. I wish it was like Odyssey that they'd spawn out and about and you could accidentally kill one and find out it's a cultist.
@@sapigwetao3573 he has something to do with it but I don’t remember. He was mentioned in all the weird animus puzzles in AC2, I think about how “they” killed him. Romans? Order of Ancients? And that his cloak is the shroud of EDEN which is how he came back to life
It's pretty interesting how Alfred of Wessex mirrors Altair in a way. As Altair reformed(or rather re-reformed) the Brotherhood, Alfred did with the Order of Ancients.
@@Achilles053 Nah it was Hassan-i Sabbāh who did that. He basically established the the Hidden Ones as a public entity. The same way the Templars(Poor Fellow Soldiers of Christ) became public when they aligned themselves with Catholic church.
@Altaïr ibn la'Ahad In the time of the first Assassins creed it was. The crusades was started by the Pope who believed Christians had the right to the Holy Land and it didn’t belong to the Muslims. He inspired soldiers by telling them they must retake the land in the name of god and thus began the crusades. There were many, with victories on both sides. In the context of Assassins creed it mainly focuses on Assassins V Templars rather than the battle of religion, which is the better way to go
"To walk him down a quiet road, to lead him safe and sober thoughts, to quiet his mind and cool his impassioned heart." These words were used for the Templar Initiation ceremony in Black Flag.
The ending for the order of the ancients storyline got me all emotional, especially after reading the texts in Aelfreds room. Holy shit it felt like discovering the series for the first time again, like welcoming an old friend.
Shit, should I have read all that? I thought it was explaining events that already happened so I just left super pissed that I couldn't avenge my friends.
Mimir is basically where odin got his knowledge and wisdom from after sacrificing his eye to drink from his well. Sidenote he was also beheaded during a war and continued to live so he was carried around by Odin God of War style
I always looked at it as Mimir being Jupitor (I believe that was the name of the old Male ISU who was always shown with a crown "leading" Juno and Minerva). Could be wrong but whatever his name is, that's who I believed Mimir represented.
i am in the same situation. still have 2 more anomalies to get. that is why i dont really get the words "my children" from Basim. i also dont know if basim is good or evil. or how will layla survive? basim took the staff so laylas body should desintegrate due to the radiation?anyway it feels good that modern day have a real story again, a real threat. Alsom, i still dont know how Eivor ends up in north america.if she is sad, happy?
@@Max1990Power No idea. We're supposed to be super invested in this isu baby mama drama that Darby pulled out of his ass though. Can you feel the energy in it?
@@TheXboxSux well, i do like the ending, but we havent had such a severe modern day situation since end of ac syndicate. Which took me by surprise. It is positive though cause I missed a main villain since Juno disappeared. It will also be interesting to see how Layla and the person she is with will handle this. also, let's say that basim/loki came to 2020, maybe havi will put things in balance once he is back? Since he is more about justice and have a friendlier tone towards humans. Anyway, I am invested and I want Eivor especially to live a good life and not get a bitter end. We have had enough of those for a while. :)
Isn't Halfdan the Thor "Sage"? Same voice actor and is loosing his sanity, rages to the point of killing and breaking things, I would say that fits into Thor's personality
There’s even that one scene where you first meet him and he throws his hammer, then someone off screen tosses it back and it kinda looks like mjölnir flying back to Thor.
The valhalla part is interesting, everyday they do a simulation of the battle, and Every time tyr loses an arm, and he cant break the node no matter how many simulations they do him losing his arm is a fixed Point like the toba catastrofe
also something to note, eivor in nordic countries like here in sweden is a female name, when the animus has a hard time deciding which memory stream it's because it picked up on odin so in body eivor is female and if you choose to play as a male you play as odin but thats not how how things transpired in the game, female eivor is the canon character and male eivor is odin himself, thats why you play as male eivor in the memories as thats playing as young odin and thats where the memory stream was stronger
What I understood, from the beginning, is that Eivor is a male and the animus had a hard time reading the memories because they are just using his remains. Then they give you the option to make it 'easier' on the animus to be portrayed as a female as there is a female in the animus. Also the Isu are being portrayed as Norse gods because they make sense in Eivors mind. In that case you are not playing as a 'young' odin, you are the reincarnation of Odin. This might be because they died after ragnarok. And that is being linked to the death of the Isu. Humans would survive ragnarok, as they did after the death of the Isu.
In AC 1 if u go into the conferece room and sit on the pc there is one email which mentiones an isu artifact which allows time travel. Abstergo has it locked away in fear of paradoxes. Funny thing is that if I remember correctly this time travel artifact should be a big plot point in the AC games after AC brotherhood before patrice left ubisoft. Nolan north was briefed on this idea and thats why he wanted to voice Desmond in the first place but then was killed of in AC 3.
In one of the letters found in Ælfred's study room, it is explicitly stated that the Order of the Ancients call Sages the ancient gods (Isu) reborn in human form. So yes, I think we can consider Eivor, Sigurd, etc. as Sages.
@@kevind3974 In Assassin's Creed I'm pretty sure he can't shapeshift but you'd think he'd at least get his hair done by someone who knew what they were doing.
@@65firered well the original loki could, the question is how because the way it was done in the Valhalla memory isn't actually how he dos it in reality. this is because it outclasses eivors understanding of its reality and thus its magic and viking athetics instead of high tech and illusions in eivors drug induced fevor dream. basim no, their is no excuss for basim. the shirt thou was probably the cheapest thing he could find in norway . he after all was in limbo for a thousend plus years and all the sudden had to go to america/canada withought a pasport or money from norway.
I like the way they tied to first game to this, like there’s a note at the hidden ones bureau to Hytham saying that he’s welcome to come back to the holy land or wherever since the assassins were just finishing up construction of the mountain stronghold castle which would be Masyaf pretty neat how to pulled this game off I think, and Basim is an interesting character I hope he’s the new main
Assassin's Creed is one of those universes that is kind of mixed up and broken in places but has a phenomenally interesting concept. If this series just had more structure and flow with present day storyline, it'd be a pretty god-tier narrative. I almost wished they'd start completely over again and just make everything fit together better.
They almost have started again by making this game tie in with most of the other games. Theyve done an extremely good job of this games storyline and connected it to most if not all of the others
@@Achilles053 this is true. Valhalla has been one of the best written AC games in a long while. Since basically Black Flag. The heavy tie in to the events of AC3 was also really cool. The first time in a long while, I'm excited to see what happens next in the present day storyline.
i thought this, how could basim disguise himself, rebecca is watching laylas feed when shes in the animus so she knows exactly what basim looks like, so how would she not know?
No they know he’s ‘Basim’, the same person who tried to kill Eivor and Sigurd. They don’t know WHY he did. For all they know, it’s an issue wrapped up in the time period and isn’t relevant to the modern day. You’ve got to remember Shaun and Rebecca don’t care about any of the characters we care about: Ezio, Connor, Bayek etc. They just want to stop this impending doom. What they DONT know is Basim is actually Loki
@@Achilles053 i didnt say they knew his motives, but they know who he is in the video he claims he was disguised, when he wasnt, he just didnt reveal his true motives
I wish they'd explained what order to do asgard, main story and order of the ancient in a way to make the story coherent because I completed it and was just like "why is basim attacking them" because I had planned to do asgard after the main story and also ran order of the ancients at the same time as the main story to get mjolner which was mad because just before the last epilogue battle, I did the last order of the ancient mission and the timeline / continuity got completely messed up.
Yeah, thats true. The game totally doesnt tell you. I got so hooked on the asgard storyline, I did all of it at once way before I completed the main story ending, so that worked out for me but yeah, i see how it can be jumbled if u dont complete it firsy
@@Daveluvutube yeah that's exactly it, the ones when you end up on drugs and you're odin. It explains alot of things in the main story like basims intentions etc
Same when I started the brothers keeper quest I wasn't ready went based on level suggested so haven't finished asgard yet or the rest of England just here to see comments before I finish the game
I'd go with anticlimactic instead of disappointing. It was an okay ending and I liked a lot of it. What confused me over the final talk with Alfred was that there was no final boss that rounds up the game (the last boss fight being Goodwin feels weird since he just felt like a secondary antagonist). Hopefully the DLCs will end the story better.
@@lucasdolding6924 it would have worked had there been someone over him a boss to where he could bring the knights to power I like that we see the rise and fall of the order and then the rise of the knights but I wanted to kill him after that last battle
There is also a part where, when you are out of the Animus as Basim, you can sit down on the bench, sitting next to the fire. Idle there for a moment, and the the camera does a 360 to where we slowly get to see a mysterious cloaked figure who appears to be Odin in Loki’s mind (perhaps through the Bleeding Effect but could also be like Loki’s personal “memories”). The part that got to me is the fact that Basim noticed Eivor, and they both give each other a smile and light nod. Maybe the two ironed out their hatred with each other, or they might have been actual friends before their death during the Isu Era. I thought at the time when Basim visits Eivor’s grave, he was cold and sinister when he talked about his plans. But when I saw this hidden scene when the two “hung out”, my impressions changed. That maybe that wasn’t the case. If so, maybe Basim would be looking for his children through Eivor’s memories; to use he/she’s skills, memories...and *secrets.*
The giant serpent, fenrir and another weird animal x are Loki's children there is 3 main 1s pretty sure but think he has even more just not important to ragnarok
I think the Father, Mother and Sacred Voice are confirmed to be Jupiter, Minerva and Juno. When you do that quest in Jotunheim("we ruled toghether for a time, a noble triad. As Father, Mother, and Sacred voice). On another subject... What's the point of calculating probabilites from 2012? Are they hinting at a reboot or even time travel?
all branches from Desmond stopping the catastrophe back in AC3 hasn't revealed the path for a permanent solution, maybe by seeing the possibilities created by Desmond allowing the Great Catastrophe to happen will with the next generation if that actually happened . Ie. you can't find a solution to a puzzle that inevitably destroys itself with all the pieces at your disposal, let's see if someone with the same puzzle but with different pieces managed to solve the problem permanently and just copy their method from there to solve your puzzle
I think they're hinting at an AC Multiverse, which frankly, I'm completely ok with. If Darby McDevitt (writer of this game, Black Flag, and Revelations) heads one side of this, then his games will be fantastic narratively. It also could lead to games created in different styles and having different studios take over different timelines, which I think is good for the universe in the long run
@@chestertamayo1894 I'm down for a reboot. This could also led to some sequels with asssassin's we've seen before. Imagine a solo Evie Frye game or a game that gave Connor more love, or a true Bayek sequel.
Probably a reboot, but thats not why they look into branches from the past. What Layla meant was that the people who survived the cataclysm (if Desmond didnt save the world) would have a completely different point of view than those who were protected by borealis, so maybe checking THEIR timelines can benefit them now. They are just increasing the possibilities they can check, because Desmond didnt make much progress with the possibilities that start from AC3.
What's cool to tie into AC1 as well is back in Hytham's hut there's a note from the leaders of the hidden ones, talking of Basim's betrayal and how they want to talk to Hytham in person soon and want him to come to their new HQ which is the building we're first introduced to in AC1.
Hey another thing that is just a theory I have is that Fulke is supposed to be Fenrir as she is the one that takes Sigurd's arm and Basim seemed to know her and Eivor kills her ,but I don't think that's possible because fenrir didn't go in the reincarnation machine ,but it might be just symbolism.
I find your accent goes with the whole setting of Assassin's creed Valhalla pulse you pronounced a lot of names better then other UA-camrs good job loved the video.
Want Desmond and most people he went thru in the animus, as well as the rest of the OG modern crew, don’t care how, maybe use a Isu mcfuffin to ressurrect Desmond, just do it I don’t care about how, just give a reason and do a couple of games about that
In ac1 you can find a text speaking off an isu time traveling system so you never know. Abstergo hid it cuz they feared paradoxes but time travel is possible.
I’m curious to see the other Isu who drank the “mead”. We see 5 as far as I know during the game, but there’s 3 more somewhere out there. I wonder if they’ll feature in the DLCs
The ending felt really anticlimactic to me like I didn’t even get to fight a big bad guy also Asgard I thought we would see the end. Still a great game tho
Glad I wasn't the only one feeling this. had an awesome time playing the game, but the ending was such a letdown, I mean we're vikings against England at least give us one massive final battle, not just me and a few allies vs some saxons.
As an veteran ac fan. I fucking love how they Brought back all these old events and lore ,and connected it to the overral lore . This game was amazing in that aspect , when it comes to connecting to the overral lore of Assassin's Creed , wich AC Odyssey failed big time...
I played a bunch of my old copies of assasins creed in order (from ac1 to origins) to hype myself up for valhalla, and Im SO glad I did bc I felt the same way, seeing the connectedness of the isu, "sage" norse gods, ac3 stuff in vinland, roman hidden ones bureaus in england, and of course the order being templars
Great accent, brother! LOL But seriously, thanks for the video. I finished the game on Monday & it felt like a hallow ending. It still does, but I at least understand it better. I really wasn’t crazy about playing evil Loki, as the “hero” but we’ll see what happens.
I’m sure someone has mentioned but if not, Thor is actually supposed to be Halfdan and it makes sense given his very brash personality, and willingness to jump to conclusions in his alliance quest.
Hopefully this means the return of more assassin like games. Love how all the crazy stuff was tied in and somehow grounded. Now we’re seeing the upbringing of the two covert organizations that we have come to know and love
One thing that puzzles me is how Shawn and Rebecka know about Basim and his backstory(including being a reincarnation of an ISU based on the comment he gave Rebecka), and yet still allow him to be alone in the cabin with all that tech, let alone meeting Desmond's father.
So, now I get it. After the ending you get for completing the anomalies, Odin and the other Gods leave of to their doom, a.k.a. the 75000 B.C. Catastrophe. Eivor in that cutscene says that Loki shall not follow, but he actually does follow them and therefore will be able to reincarnate like the others. So, after Odin binds Fenrir and then his son, Vidarr, kills him in Ragnarok, avenging his father and Thor kills Jormungandr, Loki wants revenge which he gets in the other timelines we see. One by finding Eivor in the cave in Norway 9th century A.D. in which Eivor, Odin, actuallt beats Basim, Loki and in the present day timeline, in which he finally after 77020+ years he manages to get revenge for his 2 children by returning from the cave to Shawn and Beccs and then taunting at Eivor's grave that, even though he bested Fenrir and even him in 9th century A.D., Loki in the end manages to be left alive and not Odin who is "dead" in the grave.
I wanted to play the asgard story after the main game and didn't care about the animus fragments in fact I didn't even like them and I was like. Wtf is happening. When basim attacked me I think they should have put this plot in the main story
@AlCeeProd2.0 Not Batman and i'd appreciate it if people would quit calling me that just because I have the Goddamned Batman (as Frank Miller puts it) as my profile pic and you're wrong 100%. So CAN IT
Basim told Rebecca and Shaun who he really is, this is confirmed when they ask him what he knows about how the animus works and he answers "my people invented this kind of things long before you" or something like that
just my personal take on this but * I believe the Mimir's pool of knowledge is the "Genepool" of humans and Jupiter and his daughter were worried that they would pollute it by using the 7th method. *i'm fairly certain that the part where u meet Jupiter's(Suttungr) daughter(Gunlodr) and someone replies through her machine when the two of you have left... yea that's definitely a teaser for a future game.
It was Ezio. That scene is the other side of the conversation Ezio has with Minerva at the end of AC 2, the “Who are you?” line is one of the first things he says to her
I’m just confused how that light battle in that village (where you killed the Reeve and lost Soma), dethroned Alfred? When the Reeve said he was long gone to gather reinforcements, I thought there’d be a big battle to kill Alfred. But no, we show up at that marshy village and Alfred is like “you won, I’m no longer king”. No idea what happened then, what they were fighting for exactly, and how Alfred got dethroned.
@Sam D I do plan to watch that at some point, but no, I’m not going to watch a whole season of a show just to get the answer to a question that may be similar but not identical to the plot of Valhalla.
@Sam D the point still stands that Alfred was not the only King of England to have "The Great" as an honorific. Canute won the throne of England first, Denmark 2 years later, and Norway roughly 10 years later. Unfortunately, his sons managed to kill each other, and weakened England enough for William to invade and conquer.
@@RagulViknesh super computer with Aita's conciousness inside. Could be that head at the Observatory. "My hugr is here. That is all that matters. I have learned to live incomplete, as will you." ua-cam.com/video/pm4I34yp-p8/v-deo.html 1:15
Excellent and comprehensive video. Well done. I was so happy to hear Desmond's voice again. I have always loved the concurrent modern day storyline in the AC games and I was gutted when they killed off Desmond. This is the best AC story that I've seen in many years and I'm excited to see how it all plays out.
I was torn up about Desmond dying to still my favorite series of games though best story and best character arc I miss how the character change in history / got older but the present one stayed the same in the beginning 4 games until layla in the last few. those ones in between was between were kinda hard to get in to in present basically the NPC's carried it even though the history arc was great
Hi, Walshie. Great video! I just wanted to point out that the weavers in Layla's memory corridor were the Nornir, the Norse gods who controlled fate, not skalds.
Love this assessment. I couldn’t quite make sense of the ending and tie together all of the loose threads from previous games, but this explained a lot. This is Jarrett from the Bleeding Effect Podcast, btw.
Here is my input /theory Odin´s group were the military faction of the Isu fighting the rebelion of Adam and Eve even during the catastrophie and they backed up their minds as sages as insurance, while juno´s group were in charge of trying to stop the end of the world; my theory is that ethier adam or eve is one of loki´s sons. Great videos keep it up.
Since they're interducing time travel Or atleast alternate timelines (Which fun fact was part of Patrice his original plan Nolan north talked about it on a convention Just search up assassins creed original plans on youtube) That could mean they're bringing back desmond like as an actual human again Or even bayek the founder of the brotherhood seeing what it's become would be interesting Or Edward Connor heck even altair and ezio but their deaths where well done so I'm iffy on that
I do have a question. Do you think that we'll get a continuation of Alfred's storyline in any of the DLC? Because historically, Guthrum and the Danes did take Winchester and drive Alfred into hiding in the swamplands in the west for several months, but Alfred was able to rally enough men to meet the Danes in a battle at Ethandun in 878, which basically made the agreement dividing England in half, with the north and east going to the Danes and becoming the "Danelaw" and the south and west staying under Alfred's hegemony.
You made a little mistake - Sacred Voice is Minerva, Mother of Wisdom is Juno. in Syndicate you can hear Juno calling herself the Mother of Wisdom and of course Father of Understanding was Jupiter for Order of the Ancients
Frejya in Valkas mom sure explains her 'insanity' if she was particularly touched and experimented on herself for thst, would explain her deterioration. Father of understanding was Jupiter. Mother is Juno, and sacred voice is minerva.
I like how, he explained, that in order to see what the Isu went through, that they couldnt comprehend it in fact. And had to create a story through their cultures that their respective gods had to go through. Which kind of makes all the AC games matter and that all Culture Lore is derived from the same truth. I still dont know what Basim's endgame is. He obviously has seen the time strands, unless he couldnt see them and had to listen to the Nornir because that is his brain trying to comprehend as well. So I wonder what he has to do with everything. it was a little off-putting that the guy who led Layla to where she is right now, is so easily swayed and like nothing happened almost. I hope some of it comes out in the DLC to make some sense of it all.
Well I don’t think Basim is either good nor evil. You’ve got to remember he’s ISU and so both sides don’t appeal to him. What does is finding his family. His only enemy is Odin, who’s another ISU and so not relevant to Shaun and Rebecca and the modern world
I'll just say as an OG AC fan. They finally grouped the story and properly explained what the fuck happened after ac3 with Desmond and his decision and what and how the isu and everything around them happened. They finally properly explained many plot holes of the past.
@MinecraftPro15 I didn't like the mythical bullshit from origins and odessey. Thankfully Valhalla explained that they are nothing mythical alike or related to gods myths etc. I hope they progress the modern story more.
@@__MaReX__ As a massive AC as well, I’m amazed they managed to do it whilst leaving a cliffhanger. They’ve definitely brought back the real life story and made it interesting again
Just finished and loved the whole thing. Really interesting story and lore building. I love the idea of every culture having their own representations of this Isu catastrophe. P.S: Sorry for all your screen tear! Looks rough.
I know female eivor is canon but imo I don't count her as canon, I count male eivor canon, his performance and voice acting is way better, especially when the actor of him is literally in a viking show.
Male Eivor makes so much more sense in a lot of situations. Which is weird considering they wrote the game with female Eivor in mind. Also there is the odd world event that will call male Eivor she or her. It only happened like maybe 2 or 3 times in the entire game.
Yeah in Odyssey Kassandra's actress was by far better then Alexios but in this game the male voice smashed it and it's a shame because the male being canon makes more sense when you look at the story and the Viking customs
That would make Faravid the sage of Jormungandr to fit in with Norse mythology (killed by Halfdan/Thor who then ultimately dies from Jormungandr's poison). Problem is we don't see any of Loki's children getting into Yggdrasil.
After only being able to play a few ACs (and out of order) it was so confusing and there are videos out there that gloss over general story lines. Your videos are super helpful and the commentary is hilarious 😂
I think mimir is consus, he Was junos teacher and the first to take his mind and store it in and object(shroud), his experiments were the basis for junos experiments, and he doesnt have a body like mimir, the Guardian of the well of knollege
Small thing female Eivor is canon. At the end of the The Hidden One's story line you can go into King Aelfreds study were you will find a document mentioning, Sigurd Styrrbjronson and Eivor VarinDottir. I played as male Eivor and Still had this.
That would also exsplan the merging genetics then. Eivor is female, Odin is male. Two people of different spices, with two different sexis all in one body Viying for superiority.
A side note, but Aletheia wasn't Loki's wife so much as his mistress and the mother of his children - including Fenrir. Basically the modern day ending with her and Basim basically taught me that 'no matter how much an Isu tells you they want to help you, *never* trust them since they have a hidden agenda'. P.S. I believe the Father of Understanding, Mother of Wisdom and Sacred Voice are remnants of old references to the Capitoline Triad the Isu had - with Jupiter, Minerva and Juno being the last ones to hold those titles, and perhaps Cain, Adam and Eve's son, perhaps adopted that title since he would be the one 'who understood' what it takes to guide humanity
Spoilers I like how Eivor let go of her norse beliefs to win against Odin. Cus they stopped her from processing her father's death and her trauma, but also gave Odin power over her. There's a big difference between her saying that Varin was a coward at the beginning and what she says about his sacrifice in the end. Also Odin in norse mythology is the king of the gods all powerful being, that automatically gives odin power over eivor, letting go of that belief, symbolises neatly how Odin loses power over her and she doesn't believe he's above her or that she has to obey him.
Basim is totally the main villain now , if you see the computer Desmond says that there’s something up with the Assassin order , it’s crazy how he said Assassin’s and Templar’s should be able to coexist.
bruh imagine the next games we are playing as templars trynna stop basim or some shit. Basim is straight up the antagonist for sure. The guy just oozes bad fella vibes. Hell he even has a man bun for fuck sake
Yup, I was like “I’ve done everything, but nothing about how Eivor went back to Vinland and died... goddamn DLC...”
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Perhaps he later found out about the Apple of Eden he got his hands on, when we first travel to Vinland, is an incredibly powerful and important relic. My safest bet would be him going back there to guard it after getting more involved with the Hidden Ones, or maybe directly becoming one.
Or when she (the Animus version is the canon and Female Eivor is what’s used) just died of old age and made North America the place she wanted to retire to
@@berserkergaming0240 yeah they do but the story just doesn’t feel complete right now because they never showed us Eivor going there. That’s a huge plot point that should’ve been addressed
Didnt the game end weirdly? There was no deathscene for ubba, and also in the trailer we see the settlement burning and in game valka says that the settlement wont be the same after eivor returns from hamptunscire but it never happens? But i guess they might have ubba return alive in a dlc. Idk. It just didnt feel like an ending. And also some allies never helped eivor.
@@gebakkendonut but in the trailer you could se eivor looking at it with a tear in his eye and it just looks like hes sad that its burning. Still why would valka say that the settlement will be different when he gets back
Great video. Two questions for the community. Why was Basim/Loki reincarnation born in Saudi Arabia? Considering the rest of the reincarnations were born either in Norway (hell 3 are the from the same village) or England (Halfdan, not Ubba) Also Fulke seems like a loose end. How does she know so much about the Isu? Is that ever explained? Is she supposed to be Fenrir reincarnated?
sages can be born anywhere & Fulke was a order of ancient .. most order of ancient members know all about the isu .. she explained it to eivor how she's been studying the isu for some time now
A few small clarifications: 1) Alethia isn't Loki's wife 2) Basim isn't in disguise, the modern day team knows who he is. 3) Halfdan is Thor...which Walshie did correct in a post comment, and 4) codex within the game reveals the canon gender of Eivor as female (hey, easy..don't be hatin'). Additionally, I seem to definitively remember the Father, Mother, and voice as being the triumvirate of Jupiter, Minerva and Juno.
When did Aelfred get outcast and why? Last time we saw him was during the battle where Soma died and it looked like he was kicking those vikings ass, I don’t get why just after he is exiled
@@AlW151 i mean it can be difficult in that area as they need to follow what actually happened in real life, which was Alfred going into hiding after losing most of his power in wessex after the battle of Chippenham. he wasn't necessarily exiled, more just ran away into hiding until he could build up more power
@@dwrig0165 They should continue the story through a dlc or something because it feels so unfinished. We didn’t even get to have a big battle at the end we literally raided a village with a small church lmao but I want to see Guthrum denounce the gods and rule over East Anglia like Alfred made him do in real life
One pretty interesting detail to Eivor actually being a woman, and Odin being the male part the Animus recognises, is that even if you play as the male Eivor, several times in the story characters refer to you as a "she" or "her". That really annoyed me because I thought it was a glitch, until I played until the end and realised Eivor was actually a woman.
For those wondering, it doesn't really matter much which gender you choose. Eivor being a sage is the in lore explanation why you could choose genders in this game's animus, essentially taking Odin's form within the memory since his DNA is mixed with Eivor's. There are hints to Eivor's gender throughout the game, be it quests or world events, but it doesn't change the game much if at all. I chose male Eivor for his voice acting, the same reason I chose Kassandra in Odyssey.
This is not a spoiler, this is a predilection as I haven't finished the order of the ancients yet. I thought the High Leader of the ancients was actually Basim, but seeing how things turned out to him, now I only have one suspect, King Alfred.
really nice video man , helped me to understand things that were confusing for me after finishing the game, the way it played out for me, even tho I finished all the content , was that it really felt like there was something missing, I also dont remember seeing the credits roll out. But you explained it really well , thanks !
@@SwoleSenjuXL Eve is Layla. Supposedly. Desmond is Adam. Again supposedly. With regards to Lucy, she was working with Abstergo the whole time. Like a triple agent.
Hey lads! Made a bit of a mistake here by saying that Ubba is Thor's sage, it's actually Halfdan. Sorry for any confusion :)
Thought so as ubba has that Skyrim guard voice whereas Thor had the same voice as Halfdan
There are 8 sages. Eivor, basim, sigurd, valkas Mother, halfdan?, ?, ?,?. Who are the other 3?
Walshie can u explain the different endings. I no there’s the oota ending what r the other ones
@@cakeassassin6277 and there is Aita, so there are 10? 9 sitting round the table plus Loki plus Aita, wait wait Juno was in Jotunheim too, so is there 11 or was Juno sorting around the table too
Hyrrokin is Juno, hyrrokin is the daughter of the ruler of the Jotun, does this mean we can scratch off Juno as a sage, as for Juno to be reincarnated as a Jotun then she would have to have used the machine, unless when we see hyrrokin as a Jotun that is actually us seeing Juno but with a Jotun appearance and she is really in her isu form, not reincarnated as a Jotun, does this also mean we can scratch of Minerva and Jupiter as sages too? Also what is the isu version of Mimir then if that's the real Juno at Mimir's well?
I'm still relatively new to the lore of assassin's creed, so I'm not sure if this is possible, do you think both Desmond and Layla will ever come in some form of physical body or will they stay in the gray?
I'm not gonna lie but the ending pissed me off because I didn't even know if it was actually finished
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that lol 😂
this.
I was stumbled
Not the ac we thought it was .heh
Thought I was the only one
Pathetic story.
In a nutshell Eivor, the Hidden Ones and The Order of the Ancients were playing checkers while Aelfred was playing 4D chess.
While Basim was planning the whole thing
@@Fastwalker27 he was playing 60D chess
@@Fastwalker27 Basim was making illegal moves when the others weren’t looking.
@@flamethrower1273 Basim had hacks
Hi! I just have a question, how could bassim lived all through these years but desmond tells Layla that her body will decay shortly, how could this be possible?
hilarious we had to wait 8 years and 7 games to learn what the effects of desmonds decision at the end of ac3 was lmao
Yeah actually the modern day plot moved which it didnt from last 7 years lol
The franchise gonna face another catastrophe if they keep breaking their own laws of the AC Universe, like killed the main protagonist in the main game (Desmond) and killed the main villain in the comic (Juno)
And it's all just a bunch of asspulls and Desmond's sacrifice was for NOTHING
@@MrWill9002 desmonds sacrifice bought time for them to think
@@mrudula8400 The wrong way obviously
I knew King Alfred was the Grand Master from the moment the order tree unlocked because Ubisoft did a shit job with his portrait, you can clearly see a crown.
Yea, I preferred the masks from Odyssey. The hints weren’t good enough, no, they had to go and make this opaque shadow shit that if anyone had a good pictographic memory would 0 in on quick.
indeed
i wasn't surprised at all in the ending.
Same I was like its Alfred immediately
I knew quite a few of them from those bad shadow things. I wish it was like Odyssey that they'd spawn out and about and you could accidentally kill one and find out it's a cultist.
Just as Ubisoft did a SHIT job with the rest of the game as it disrespected Desmond's story and still disrespects how the Animus works
I just absolutely love how perfectly they integrated Norse mythology with Isu lore.
worked really well I agree.
I think that the games shouldn't have to rely on mythology to make the isu characters, but they can't change that now though
@@andrewross3004 i dont mind that. every country/region in the world has its own mythos. a good source for storytelling. :)
Could be Jesus also the isu?
@@sapigwetao3573 he has something to do with it but I don’t remember. He was mentioned in all the weird animus puzzles in AC2, I think about how “they” killed him. Romans? Order of Ancients? And that his cloak is the shroud of EDEN which is how he came back to life
It's pretty interesting how Alfred of Wessex mirrors Altair in a way.
As Altair reformed(or rather re-reformed) the Brotherhood, Alfred did with the Order of Ancients.
Altair reformed it, but I think Al-Mualim made the big changes and created an actual order
@@Achilles053 Nah it was Hassan-i Sabbāh who did that.
He basically established the the Hidden Ones as a public entity.
The same way the Templars(Poor Fellow Soldiers of Christ) became public when they aligned themselves with Catholic church.
@@TheBrainwashedCommie Ah thanks I had no idea. But yeah I like them being public and recognised as Assassins and Templars rather than hiding
@Altaïr ibn la'Ahad In the time of the first Assassins creed it was. The crusades was started by the Pope who believed Christians had the right to the Holy Land and it didn’t belong to the Muslims. He inspired soldiers by telling them they must retake the land in the name of god and thus began the crusades. There were many, with victories on both sides. In the context of Assassins creed it mainly focuses on Assassins V Templars rather than the battle of religion, which is the better way to go
I love the wolf shirt “this, I love it. It reminds me of my son”
"To walk him down a quiet road, to lead him safe and sober thoughts, to quiet his mind and cool his impassioned heart."
These words were used for the Templar Initiation ceremony in Black Flag.
Yoooooooo
The ending for the order of the ancients storyline got me all emotional, especially after reading the texts in Aelfreds room. Holy shit it felt like discovering the series for the first time again, like welcoming an old friend.
Weird I felt like I just watched a straight to DVD and VOD cheesy spin-off. Perception is strange.
@@TheXboxSux well, everybody's different lmao
Shit, should I have read all that? I thought it was explaining events that already happened so I just left super pissed that I couldn't avenge my friends.
@@bewilderedgamer3615 dont worry it wasnt really significant
@@bewilderedgamer3615 you can still go there tho if u want to
mimir may just be a computer system and eivor remembers him aas a giant head
Mimir is basically where odin got his knowledge and wisdom from after sacrificing his eye to drink from his well.
Sidenote he was also beheaded during a war and continued to live so he was carried around by Odin God of War style
@@ajcarter6546 I mean in this everything futuristic is interpreted as magic to Eivor
I always looked at it as Mimir being Jupitor (I believe that was the name of the old Male ISU who was always shown with a crown "leading" Juno and Minerva). Could be wrong but whatever his name is, that's who I believed Mimir represented.
I think mimir is konsas who was the first isu to transfer his consciousness into an object. Jupiter is the king of the giants I forget his name
@@vise_atoxity8083 Suttungr is Jupiter, the frost giant who seemed to be the king of Jotunheim
In the Asgard arc Loki has a undercut.
In the modern day, he has a man bun. Basim/Loki is the ancient hipster.
Modern day Loki is an internet troll discord moderator =))))
TDLR: Kassandra walks out in a suit and Layla kills her best mate
We can all agree Kassandra in a suit is the most hilarious thing ever.
Yes
I had to bleach my eyes after that idek how I’m typing this rn
@@reyhan2006-g5l I don't know hipster basim was hilarious
@@BR78973 his tshirt that made me lol'd. But hey, dude just trynna blend in.
I finished the main story before finishing the anomalies and was pleasantly surprised to do them as Basim. He was like "oh look, my anomalies." 🤣🤣
i am in the same situation. still have 2 more anomalies to get. that is why i dont really get the words "my children" from Basim. i also dont know if basim is good or evil. or how will layla survive? basim took the staff so laylas body should desintegrate due to the radiation?anyway it feels good that modern day have a real story again, a real threat. Alsom, i still dont know how Eivor ends up in north america.if she is sad, happy?
@@Max1990Power
Basim or Loki is referring to Loki’s children Fenrir the wolf, Jormangandr the world serpent, and Hel the goddess of death.
@@grant_k9539 so he wants to bring them back to 2020?
@@Max1990Power No idea. We're supposed to be super invested in this isu baby mama drama that Darby pulled out of his ass though. Can you feel the energy in it?
@@TheXboxSux well, i do like the ending, but we havent had such a severe modern day situation since end of ac syndicate. Which took me by surprise. It is positive though cause I missed a main villain since Juno disappeared. It will also be interesting to see how Layla and the person she is with will handle this. also, let's say that basim/loki came to 2020, maybe havi will put things in balance once he is back? Since he is more about justice and have a friendlier tone towards humans.
Anyway, I am invested and I want Eivor especially to live a good life and not get a bitter end. We have had enough of those for a while. :)
I like how the animus arm from the movie has a return in this game, in some way at least.
Yup... Very much the same.. And the pain of being lifted up upon "connection".
@@ImmortalShiro Of course it would hurt. You get some needles in your spine. Ouch
@MinecraftPro15 Maybe it wouldnt hurt the Isu as much as it hurts humans. We dont know how much pain they can feel.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this when I saw it in the game!
@@Marquis-Sade Well the Isu seem to be in pain when they transfer their DNA into Yggdrasil
Isn't Halfdan the Thor "Sage"? Same voice actor and is loosing his sanity, rages to the point of killing and breaking things, I would say that fits into Thor's personality
Yes
Yeah, Ubba is no way Thor's sage
Yeah it’s 100% Halfdan. Halfdan wields a hammer as his weapon.
@@grapes9h5 One of his battle lines mentions Thor and battle I'm pretty sure.
There’s even that one scene where you first meet him and he throws his hammer, then someone off screen tosses it back and it kinda looks like mjölnir flying back to Thor.
bruh, I didn't even realize that was the ending when I got to it...
Yeah same deadass I sat there waiting for something to happen until I looked it up lmaoo
Lmao same here, had to look it up to confirm that I actually finished the game
Bahahaha this commentary is amazing, love the quips about Basim. Great video man :)
The valhalla part is interesting, everyday they do a simulation of the battle, and Every time tyr loses an arm, and he cant break the node no matter how many simulations they do him losing his arm is a fixed Point like the toba catastrofe
Is that maybe a hint that the real world is a simulation with its unbreakable node?😱
also something to note, eivor in nordic countries like here in sweden is a female name, when the animus has a hard time deciding which memory stream it's because it picked up on odin so in body eivor is female and if you choose to play as a male you play as odin but thats not how how things transpired in the game, female eivor is the canon character and male eivor is odin himself, thats why you play as male eivor in the memories as thats playing as young odin and thats where the memory stream was stronger
What I understood, from the beginning, is that Eivor is a male and the animus had a hard time reading the memories because they are just using his remains. Then they give you the option to make it 'easier' on the animus to be portrayed as a female as there is a female in the animus.
Also the Isu are being portrayed as Norse gods because they make sense in Eivors mind. In that case you are not playing as a 'young' odin, you are the reincarnation of Odin.
This might be because they died after ragnarok. And that is being linked to the death of the Isu. Humans would survive ragnarok, as they did after the death of the Isu.
both genders are canon, it hs been confirmed
@@kevo8664 Bruh, he's talking regarding the story🤦♂️
@@_UNISTAR_ yes, story wise, both are canon
@@kevo8664 yeah but in body eivor was female hence why theres a female name eivor is a mix of the female physical eivor and odin
I do think they’ll do time travel back to 2012 and Desmond will survive
Let’s hope
In AC 1 if u go into the conferece room and sit on the pc there is one email which mentiones an isu artifact which allows time travel. Abstergo has it locked away in fear of paradoxes.
Funny thing is that if I remember correctly this time travel artifact should be a big plot point in the AC games after AC brotherhood before patrice left ubisoft. Nolan north was briefed on this idea and thats why he wanted to voice Desmond in the first place but then was killed of in AC 3.
@@g-susyolo6713 I remember that
Desmond was meant to become the ultimate assassin right?
Perhaps they'll use it in a different way
R U stupid? 😅
@@tonychavez6277 wdym r u stupid it’s possible
In one of the letters found in Ælfred's study room, it is explicitly stated that the Order of the Ancients call Sages the ancient gods (Isu) reborn in human form. So yes, I think we can consider Eivor, Sigurd, etc. as Sages.
Giving Basim a man bun was a mistake, just as Loki's haircut was a mistake.
For a guy who can shapeshift he’s vary bad at picking his hairstyle
@@kevind3974 In Assassin's Creed I'm pretty sure he can't shapeshift but you'd think he'd at least get his hair done by someone who knew what they were doing.
@@65firered well the original loki could, the question is how because the way it was done in the Valhalla memory isn't actually how he dos it in reality. this is because it outclasses eivors understanding of its reality and thus its magic and viking athetics instead of high tech and illusions in eivors drug induced fevor dream.
basim no, their is no excuss for basim. the shirt thou was probably the cheapest thing he could find in norway . he after all was in limbo for a thousend plus years and all the sudden had to go to america/canada withought a pasport or money from norway.
@@kevind3974 He looks like he wants to take my order at Starbucks.
@@65firered and thats why he has no excuss
I like the way they tied to first game to this, like there’s a note at the hidden ones bureau to Hytham saying that he’s welcome to come back to the holy land or wherever since the assassins were just finishing up construction of the mountain stronghold castle which would be Masyaf pretty neat how to pulled this game off I think, and Basim is an interesting character I hope he’s the new main
“To go fight a solar flare, I guess.” I was dying lol
Too many seem to have missed that his shirt is a massive intentional nod to both Loki’s son, Fenrir and Ragnarok
Assassin's Creed is one of those universes that is kind of mixed up and broken in places but has a phenomenally interesting concept. If this series just had more structure and flow with present day storyline, it'd be a pretty god-tier narrative. I almost wished they'd start completely over again and just make everything fit together better.
They almost have started again by making this game tie in with most of the other games. Theyve done an extremely good job of this games storyline and connected it to most if not all of the others
@@Achilles053 this is true. Valhalla has been one of the best written AC games in a long while. Since basically Black Flag. The heavy tie in to the events of AC3 was also really cool. The first time in a long while, I'm excited to see what happens next in the present day storyline.
Just want to correct something, Sean and Rebecca know exactly who Basim is
i thought this, how could basim disguise himself, rebecca is watching laylas feed when shes in the animus so she knows exactly what basim looks like, so how would she not know?
@@LowieX Bc it’s Loki? And he is manipulative?? But must that man bun that threw her off lol
No they know he’s ‘Basim’, the same person who tried to kill Eivor and Sigurd. They don’t know WHY he did. For all they know, it’s an issue wrapped up in the time period and isn’t relevant to the modern day. You’ve got to remember Shaun and Rebecca don’t care about any of the characters we care about: Ezio, Connor, Bayek etc. They just want to stop this impending doom. What they DONT know is Basim is actually Loki
@@Achilles053 i didnt say they knew his motives, but they know who he is
in the video he claims he was disguised, when he wasnt, he just didnt reveal his true motives
@@Achilles053 They know he;s Loki, he even said "We invented all this way before you", and they didn't look suprised
I wish they'd explained what order to do asgard, main story and order of the ancient in a way to make the story coherent because I completed it and was just like "why is basim attacking them" because I had planned to do asgard after the main story and also ran order of the ancients at the same time as the main story to get mjolner which was mad because just before the last epilogue battle, I did the last order of the ancient mission and the timeline / continuity got completely messed up.
Yeah, thats true. The game totally doesnt tell you. I got so hooked on the asgard storyline, I did all of it at once way before I completed the main story ending, so that worked out for me but yeah, i see how it can be jumbled if u dont complete it firsy
same did asguard after the main story finished and none of it made sense lol...
I did only the asgard story not Jotunheim or the Order of the Ancients. That’s why I’m here lmao
I don’t even know why the Asgard story is and I’ve completed the main story if that helps. Is it the the quests form the hut in your village ?
@@Daveluvutube yeah that's exactly it, the ones when you end up on drugs and you're odin. It explains alot of things in the main story like basims intentions etc
Jack, they literatly say that Jupiter is the father and that Minerva is the mother in the game.
where? :o what did I miss :o
The Father of Understanding, The Mother of Wisdom and The Sacred Voice
Yes. Suttungr, Angrboda and Hyrykin
@@Aemond2024 Angrboda is Aletheia, not Minerva. Gunnlodr is Minerva.
@@KingRigo2000 well sure, i didnt claim otherwise.
This ending was so disappointing I literally didn’t even realize I beat the game
Same when I started the brothers keeper quest I wasn't ready went based on level suggested so haven't finished asgard yet or the rest of England just here to see comments before I finish the game
I'd go with anticlimactic instead of disappointing. It was an okay ending and I liked a lot of it. What confused me over the final talk with Alfred was that there was no final boss that rounds up the game (the last boss fight being Goodwin feels weird since he just felt like a secondary antagonist). Hopefully the DLCs will end the story better.
@@lucasdolding6924 it would have worked had there been someone over him a boss to where he could bring the knights to power I like that we see the rise and fall of the order and then the rise of the knights but I wanted to kill him after that last battle
There is also a part where, when you are out of the Animus as Basim, you can sit down on the bench, sitting next to the fire. Idle there for a moment, and the the camera does a 360 to where we slowly get to see a mysterious cloaked figure who appears to be Odin in Loki’s mind (perhaps through the Bleeding Effect but could also be like Loki’s personal “memories”).
The part that got to me is the fact that Basim noticed Eivor, and they both give each other a smile and light nod. Maybe the two ironed out their hatred with each other, or they might have been actual friends before their death during the Isu Era. I thought at the time when Basim visits Eivor’s grave, he was cold and sinister when he talked about his plans. But when I saw this hidden scene when the two “hung out”, my impressions changed. That maybe that wasn’t the case. If so, maybe Basim would be looking for his children through Eivor’s memories; to use he/she’s skills, memories...and *secrets.*
Who are Basims children anyways? Tbf we still dont really have a clear answer on what the wolf is.
@@Will-bn9km Fenrir is Basim’s son, but according to Norse mythology, Loki had more children.
The figure sitting at the fire in my game was female Eivor. I have 100% completionist. Not sure if that plays into it.
The giant serpent, fenrir and another weird animal x are Loki's children there is 3 main 1s pretty sure but think he has even more just not important to ragnarok
I think the Father, Mother and Sacred Voice are confirmed to be Jupiter, Minerva and Juno. When you do that quest in Jotunheim("we ruled toghether for a time, a noble triad. As Father, Mother, and Sacred voice). On another subject... What's the point of calculating probabilites from 2012? Are they hinting at a reboot or even time travel?
all branches from Desmond stopping the catastrophe back in AC3 hasn't revealed the path for a permanent solution, maybe by seeing the possibilities created by Desmond allowing the Great Catastrophe to happen will with the next generation if that actually happened .
Ie. you can't find a solution to a puzzle that inevitably destroys itself with all the pieces at your disposal, let's see if someone with the same puzzle but with different pieces managed to solve the problem permanently and just copy their method from there to solve your puzzle
I think they're hinting at an AC Multiverse, which frankly, I'm completely ok with. If Darby McDevitt (writer of this game, Black Flag, and Revelations) heads one side of this, then his games will be fantastic narratively. It also could lead to games created in different styles and having different studios take over different timelines, which I think is good for the universe in the long run
@@chestertamayo1894 I'm down for a reboot. This could also led to some sequels with asssassin's we've seen before. Imagine a solo Evie Frye game or a game that gave Connor more love, or a true Bayek sequel.
It would be a retcon. It would be similar to the new Star Wars movies. A soft reboot is you will.
Probably a reboot, but thats not why they look into branches from the past. What Layla meant was that the people who survived the cataclysm (if Desmond didnt save the world) would have a completely different point of view than those who were protected by borealis, so maybe checking THEIR timelines can benefit them now. They are just increasing the possibilities they can check, because Desmond didnt make much progress with the possibilities that start from AC3.
What's cool to tie into AC1 as well is back in Hytham's hut there's a note from the leaders of the hidden ones, talking of Basim's betrayal and how they want to talk to Hytham in person soon and want him to come to their new HQ which is the building we're first introduced to in AC1.
This game is perfect for my mind, im incredibly shocked i havent i gotten into assasins creed until now. I vibe with shit so incredibly.
I highly recommend playing the ezio games!
I love this video explaining everything! I also love how screen tearing is just there like "hey, I am what you will remember more about this game!"
Hey another thing that is just a theory I have is that Fulke is supposed to be Fenrir as she is the one that takes Sigurd's arm and Basim seemed to know her and Eivor kills her ,but I don't think that's possible because fenrir didn't go in the reincarnation machine ,but it might be just symbolism.
Eivor doesn't kills fenrir so it doesn't connects
I wonder if Eivor killing the wolf as a child is representative of Odin and Fenrir
Might be
Yes
its true bro, Eivor is Odin
Mimir is Consus, the first Isu to upload their consciousness into a digital form
I find your accent goes with the whole setting of Assassin's creed Valhalla pulse you pronounced a lot of names better then other UA-camrs good job loved the video.
Want Desmond and most people he went thru in the animus, as well as the rest of the OG modern crew, don’t care how, maybe use a Isu mcfuffin to ressurrect Desmond, just do it I don’t care about how, just give a reason and do a couple of games about that
In ac1 you can find a text speaking off an isu time traveling system so you never know. Abstergo hid it cuz they feared paradoxes but time travel is possible.
I’m curious to see the other Isu who drank the “mead”. We see 5 as far as I know during the game, but there’s 3 more somewhere out there. I wonder if they’ll feature in the DLCs
I think The USI Loki Killed (before Loki entered himself into the life tree) was Heimdall so we could see His reincarnation later
Will definitely watch this after I complete the game just dont want spoilers 👍
Now?
The ending felt really anticlimactic to me like I didn’t even get to fight a big bad guy also Asgard I thought we would see the end. Still a great game tho
i didnt even know i was finished the game till i actually had to come on youtube and look
I had hoped you'd play in ragnarok as a final mission or something, but that might be in dlc or the free extra content later
Glad I wasn't the only one feeling this. had an awesome time playing the game, but the ending was such a letdown, I mean we're vikings against England at least give us one massive final battle, not just me and a few allies vs some saxons.
@@josutorimu that would have been fucking epic...
@@Husmanmusic lol exactly!! I was like err wut? is this the ending?
As an veteran ac fan. I fucking love how they Brought back all these old events and lore ,and connected it to the overral lore .
This game was amazing in that aspect , when it comes to connecting to the overral lore of Assassin's Creed , wich AC Odyssey failed big time...
I played a bunch of my old copies of assasins creed in order (from ac1 to origins) to hype myself up for valhalla, and Im SO glad I did bc I felt the same way, seeing the connectedness of the isu, "sage" norse gods, ac3 stuff in vinland, roman hidden ones bureaus in england, and of course the order being templars
Great accent, brother! LOL But seriously, thanks for the video. I finished the game on Monday & it felt like a hallow ending. It still does, but I at least understand it better. I really wasn’t crazy about playing evil Loki, as the “hero” but we’ll see what happens.
I’m sure someone has mentioned but if not, Thor is actually supposed to be Halfdan and it makes sense given his very brash personality, and willingness to jump to conclusions in his alliance quest.
And the fact that he was throwing a hammer lol
Hopefully this means the return of more assassin like games. Love how all the crazy stuff was tied in and somehow grounded. Now we’re seeing the upbringing of the two covert organizations that we have come to know and love
The father of understanding IS Jupiter. Juno says so in the Jotunheim arc that the Capitoline triad are the father, mother, and sacred voice.
father of understanding is julius ceaser!
@@xananymous431 what if Julius Caesar was Jupiter's Sage?
One thing that puzzles me is how Shawn and Rebecka know about Basim and his backstory(including being a reincarnation of an ISU based on the comment he gave Rebecka), and yet still allow him to be alone in the cabin with all that tech, let alone meeting Desmond's father.
Damn basim was an incorporation of old school assassins creed:
Wears Levantine robes
Hides in the shadows
Is a fucking isu
I’ve watched this and the other video dating back from AC-Odyssey, and I got to say, you definitely explained it best. Love the content!
So, now I get it. After the ending you get for completing the anomalies, Odin and the other Gods leave of to their doom, a.k.a. the 75000 B.C. Catastrophe. Eivor in that cutscene says that Loki shall not follow, but he actually does follow them and therefore will be able to reincarnate like the others. So, after Odin binds Fenrir and then his son, Vidarr, kills him in Ragnarok, avenging his father and Thor kills Jormungandr, Loki wants revenge which he gets in the other timelines we see. One by finding Eivor in the cave in Norway 9th century A.D. in which Eivor, Odin, actuallt beats Basim, Loki and in the present day timeline, in which he finally after 77020+ years he manages to get revenge for his 2 children by returning from the cave to Shawn and Beccs and then taunting at Eivor's grave that, even though he bested Fenrir and even him in 9th century A.D., Loki in the end manages to be left alive and not Odin who is "dead" in the grave.
I think Loki/ Basim was able to see Eivor deny Odin so it’s likely he still respects Eivor despite everything
This ending confused me so much, thank you for clearing it up
Finished the main story not realised I needed to the gliches and Asgard, I was really confused once I beat Alfred now I no why 🤣
@@Roadside-living i did Asgard but not Jotunheim. The ending makes so much sense now and I like it the more I think on it
I wanted to play the asgard story after the main game and didn't care about the animus fragments in fact I didn't even like them and I was like. Wtf is happening. When basim attacked me I think they should have put this plot in the main story
For a trilogy that was supposed to take us through the distant past to understand how we got to AC 1, they sure took their time explaining.
Took their time? They practically shat on it for the majority of it!
@AlCeeProd2.0 Not Batman and i'd appreciate it if people would quit calling me that just because I have the Goddamned Batman (as Frank Miller puts it) as my profile pic and you're wrong 100%. So CAN IT
@AlCeeProd2.0 Don't call me that either, stupid. >:(
@AlCeeProd2.0 Batman’s not wrong though:) they messed around with the storyline so much some games ended up being totally irrelevant.
@@venmen523 And you can take that statement and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
Basim told Rebecca and Shaun who he really is, this is confirmed when they ask him what he knows about how the animus works and he answers "my people invented this kind of things long before you" or something like that
just my personal take on this but
* I believe the Mimir's pool of knowledge is the "Genepool" of humans and Jupiter and his daughter were worried that they would pollute it by using the 7th method.
*i'm fairly certain that the part where u meet Jupiter's(Suttungr) daughter(Gunlodr) and someone replies through her machine when the two of you have left... yea that's definitely a teaser for a future game.
world seeker 3715 sounded like Basim to me
It's just Ezio. He was The Prophet.
It was Ezio. That scene is the other side of the conversation Ezio has with Minerva at the end of AC 2, the “Who are you?” line is one of the first things he says to her
I’m just confused how that light battle in that village (where you killed the Reeve and lost Soma), dethroned Alfred?
When the Reeve said he was long gone to gather reinforcements, I thought there’d be a big battle to kill Alfred. But no, we show up at that marshy village and Alfred is like “you won, I’m no longer king”. No idea what happened then, what they were fighting for exactly, and how Alfred got dethroned.
@Sam D I do plan to watch that at some point, but no, I’m not going to watch a whole season of a show just to get the answer to a question that may be similar but not identical to the plot of Valhalla.
@Sam D Damn, wished we got to do the Wincestre battle, why was that left out in the game?
@Sam D this is not true, Canut or Cnut, had that title as well.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut_the_Great
@Sam D the point still stands that Alfred was not the only King of England to have "The Great" as an honorific. Canute won the throne of England first, Denmark 2 years later, and Norway roughly 10 years later. Unfortunately, his sons managed to kill each other, and weakened England enough for William to invade and conquer.
@Sam D to be more accurate - Alfred was the only Anglo/Saxon king to have "The Great" - as anyone who was King of England was the English King 8 )
Mimir is probably Aita's conciousness on a computer or something.
I don't think it is Aita at all, more like an Isu supercomputer or something.
@@RagulViknesh super computer with Aita's conciousness inside. Could be that head at the Observatory. "My hugr is here. That is all that matters. I have learned to live incomplete, as will you." ua-cam.com/video/pm4I34yp-p8/v-deo.html 1:15
Excellent and comprehensive video. Well done. I was so happy to hear Desmond's voice again. I have always loved the concurrent modern day storyline in the AC games and I was gutted when they killed off Desmond. This is the best AC story that I've seen in many years and I'm excited to see how it all plays out.
I was torn up about Desmond dying to still my favorite series of games though best story and best character arc I miss how the character change in history / got older but the present one stayed the same in the beginning 4 games until layla in the last few. those ones in between was between were kinda hard to get in to in present basically the NPC's carried it even though the history arc was great
Hi, Walshie. Great video! I just wanted to point out that the weavers in Layla's memory corridor were the Nornir, the Norse gods who controlled fate, not skalds.
He probably got confused because one of them was named Skuld
secondly layla and Desmond is Adam and eve
Love this assessment. I couldn’t quite make sense of the ending and tie together all of the loose threads from previous games, but this explained a lot. This is Jarrett from the Bleeding Effect Podcast, btw.
I love how Eivor became an Altair-like character during the Epilogue
ehh, I feel like King Aelfred was the altair in this game, but for the templars lol
@@Boxsteam In terms of role, yes, but in terms of personality it is Eivor because she went from an arrogant person to a wise leader
@@ajayavsm7476 I getcha
Here is my input /theory Odin´s group were the military faction of the Isu fighting the rebelion of Adam and Eve even during the catastrophie and they backed up their minds as sages as insurance, while juno´s group were in charge of trying to stop the end of the world; my theory is that ethier adam or eve is one of loki´s sons. Great videos keep it up.
Since they're interducing time travel
Or atleast alternate timelines
(Which fun fact was part of Patrice his original plan
Nolan north talked about it on a convention
Just search up assassins creed original plans on youtube)
That could mean they're bringing back desmond like as an actual human again
Or even bayek the founder of the brotherhood seeing what it's become would be interesting
Or Edward Connor
heck even altair and ezio but their deaths where well done so I'm iffy on that
holy fuck, im excited
I do have a question. Do you think that we'll get a continuation of Alfred's storyline in any of the DLC? Because historically, Guthrum and the Danes did take Winchester and drive Alfred into hiding in the swamplands in the west for several months, but Alfred was able to rally enough men to meet the Danes in a battle at Ethandun in 878, which basically made the agreement dividing England in half, with the north and east going to the Danes and becoming the "Danelaw" and the south and west staying under Alfred's hegemony.
You made a little mistake - Sacred Voice is Minerva, Mother of Wisdom is Juno. in Syndicate you can hear Juno calling herself the Mother of Wisdom and of course Father of Understanding was Jupiter for Order of the Ancients
Frejya in Valkas mom sure explains her 'insanity' if she was particularly touched and experimented on herself for thst, would explain her deterioration.
Father of understanding was Jupiter. Mother is Juno, and sacred voice is minerva.
I like how, he explained, that in order to see what the Isu went through, that they couldnt comprehend it in fact. And had to create a story through their cultures that their respective gods had to go through. Which kind of makes all the AC games matter and that all Culture Lore is derived from the same truth.
I still dont know what Basim's endgame is. He obviously has seen the time strands, unless he couldnt see them and had to listen to the Nornir because that is his brain trying to comprehend as well. So I wonder what he has to do with everything. it was a little off-putting that the guy who led Layla to where she is right now, is so easily swayed and like nothing happened almost. I hope some of it comes out in the DLC to make some sense of it all.
Well I don’t think Basim is either good nor evil. You’ve got to remember he’s ISU and so both sides don’t appeal to him. What does is finding his family. His only enemy is Odin, who’s another ISU and so not relevant to Shaun and Rebecca and the modern world
I don’t want spoilers so I won’t watch the video. I’m just gonna live a like because I know it’s quality content and return later
I'll just say as an OG AC fan. They finally grouped the story and properly explained what the fuck happened after ac3 with Desmond and his decision and what and how the isu and everything around them happened. They finally properly explained many plot holes of the past.
@@__MaReX__ Yeah, finally some closure
@MinecraftPro15 I didn't like the mythical bullshit from origins and odessey. Thankfully Valhalla explained that they are nothing mythical alike or related to gods myths etc. I hope they progress the modern story more.
@@__MaReX__ As a massive AC as well, I’m amazed they managed to do it whilst leaving a cliffhanger. They’ve definitely brought back the real life story and made it interesting again
Just finished and loved the whole thing. Really interesting story and lore building. I love the idea of every culture having their own representations of this Isu catastrophe.
P.S: Sorry for all your screen tear! Looks rough.
I know female eivor is canon but imo I don't count her as canon, I count male eivor canon, his performance and voice acting is way better, especially when the actor of him is literally in a viking show.
True
Male Eivor makes so much more sense in a lot of situations. Which is weird considering they wrote the game with female Eivor in mind. Also there is the odd world event that will call male Eivor she or her. It only happened like maybe 2 or 3 times in the entire game.
Yeah in Odyssey Kassandra's actress was by far better then Alexios but in this game the male voice smashed it and it's a shame because the male being canon makes more sense when you look at the story and the Viking customs
@@BeastscopesCL yea I refuse to believe Odin would transfer his consciousness into a female body lmao
@@dicksienormous8186 maybe Odin isn’t sexist like the rest of us 😂
I noticed during the Eurvicscire arc that Faravid also has the isu mark on his neck
That would make Faravid the sage of Jormungandr to fit in with Norse mythology (killed by Halfdan/Thor who then ultimately dies from Jormungandr's poison). Problem is we don't see any of Loki's children getting into Yggdrasil.
@@peterolivers9796 Loki may have smuggled them into Yggdrasil, albeit secretly.
I really hope Basim is our new playable character for the next few games, because he’s legitimately more interesting then Desmond and Layla
And we are playing as a pureblooded Isu, in this case, Loki.
After only being able to play a few ACs (and out of order) it was so confusing and there are videos out there that gloss over general story lines. Your videos are super helpful and the commentary is hilarious 😂
I think mimir is consus, he Was junos teacher and the first to take his mind and store it in and object(shroud), his experiments were the basis for junos experiments, and he doesnt have a body like mimir, the Guardian of the well of knollege
I love that accent - made it nice and relaxing. Unfortunately I had to watch multiple times because it was so soothing I would fall asleep
Small thing female Eivor is canon. At the end of the The Hidden One's story line you can go into King Aelfreds study were you will find a document mentioning, Sigurd Styrrbjronson and Eivor VarinDottir. I played as male Eivor and Still had this.
So? Hows that prove anything
@@Crusade11722 Dottir is like Ragnarson. if it was Ragnar's daughter it would be RagnarDottir. Also Eivor is a Norwegian Female name.
@@Crusade11722 Varinsdottir, Varin's daughter.
That would also exsplan the merging genetics then. Eivor is female, Odin is male. Two people of different spices, with two different sexis all in one body Viying for superiority.
WolfxJ Ahh gotcha, I doubt it though. Eivor is Odin and Odin is male.
A side note, but Aletheia wasn't Loki's wife so much as his mistress and the mother of his children - including Fenrir. Basically the modern day ending with her and Basim basically taught me that 'no matter how much an Isu tells you they want to help you, *never* trust them since they have a hidden agenda'.
P.S. I believe the Father of Understanding, Mother of Wisdom and Sacred Voice are remnants of old references to the Capitoline Triad the Isu had - with Jupiter, Minerva and Juno being the last ones to hold those titles, and perhaps Cain, Adam and Eve's son, perhaps adopted that title since he would be the one 'who understood' what it takes to guide humanity
I need a assassin’s creed glossary at this point, so confusing lol
Imagine me trying to understand it because I just played Valhalla no other AC
i lost track of the storyline after desmond got killed since bits of the main story were put on dlcs
All I have to say is holy fuck so much info and background on this whole assassin creeed Series
Spoilers
I like how Eivor let go of her norse beliefs to win against Odin. Cus they stopped her from processing her father's death and her trauma, but also gave Odin power over her. There's a big difference between her saying that Varin was a coward at the beginning and what she says about his sacrifice in the end. Also Odin in norse mythology is the king of the gods all powerful being, that automatically gives odin power over eivor, letting go of that belief, symbolises neatly how Odin loses power over her and she doesn't believe he's above her or that she has to obey him.
Basim is totally the main villain now , if you see the computer Desmond says that there’s something up with the Assassin order , it’s crazy how he said Assassin’s and Templar’s should be able to coexist.
bruh imagine the next games we are playing as templars trynna stop basim or some shit. Basim is straight up the antagonist for sure. The guy just oozes bad fella vibes. Hell he even has a man bun for fuck sake
I just wanna know how Eivor's body ends up in America, but Ubisoft is gonna make everyone buy the DLC to actually see the ending of their story ugh
Yup, I was like “I’ve done everything, but nothing about how Eivor went back to Vinland and died... goddamn DLC...”
Perhaps he later found out about the Apple of Eden he got his hands on, when we first travel to Vinland, is an incredibly powerful and important relic. My safest bet would be him going back there to guard it after getting more involved with the Hidden Ones, or maybe directly becoming one.
Or when she (the Animus version is the canon and Female Eivor is what’s used) just died of old age and made North America the place she wanted to retire to
But during the game eivor says that his body might be bound to vinland?
@@berserkergaming0240 yeah they do but the story just doesn’t feel complete right now because they never showed us Eivor going there. That’s a huge plot point that should’ve been addressed
I love your accent, anyone who can speak passionately about anything has the same accent... The accent of awesome
Didnt the game end weirdly? There was no deathscene for ubba, and also in the trailer we see the settlement burning and in game valka says that the settlement wont be the same after eivor returns from hamptunscire but it never happens? But i guess they might have ubba return alive in a dlc. Idk. It just didnt feel like an ending. And also some allies never helped eivor.
Yep!! I wasn’t even sure if the game ended because i was left more confused. 🙄
That burning settlement was the village after you kill Goodwin I think
@@gebakkendonut but in the trailer you could se eivor looking at it with a tear in his eye and it just looks like hes sad that its burning. Still why would valka say that the settlement will be different when he gets back
@@EagleR6 o you mean that scene. I have no idea. But I think that valka’s message was a reference to what happened after Alfred took over again.
Thanks for this. After 200 hours of gameplay I was just happy to have it made it to the end. Subscribed
200???
@@abelayres4215 I think it ended at like 300 hours after beating the Paris DLC.
Great video.
Two questions for the community.
Why was Basim/Loki reincarnation born in Saudi Arabia? Considering the rest of the reincarnations were born either in Norway (hell 3 are the from the same village) or England (Halfdan, not Ubba)
Also Fulke seems like a loose end. How does she know so much about the Isu? Is that ever explained? Is she supposed to be Fenrir reincarnated?
sages can be born anywhere & Fulke was a order of ancient .. most order of ancient members know all about the isu .. she explained it to eivor how she's been studying the isu for some time now
@@hecantguardme15 And the Order of Ancients seem to be more about the Isu than world domination.
@@isplat927 Only Fulke doing the research on Isu though
others still taking care of controlling the area
A few small clarifications: 1) Alethia isn't Loki's wife 2) Basim isn't in disguise, the modern day team knows who he is. 3) Halfdan is Thor...which Walshie did correct in a post comment, and 4) codex within the game reveals the canon gender of Eivor as female (hey, easy..don't be hatin'). Additionally, I seem to definitively remember the Father, Mother, and voice as being the triumvirate of Jupiter, Minerva and Juno.
When did Aelfred get outcast and why? Last time we saw him was during the battle where Soma died and it looked like he was kicking those vikings ass, I don’t get why just after he is exiled
Yeah I thought the ancient ones ending was so shit
@@AlW151 i mean it can be difficult in that area as they need to follow what actually happened in real life, which was Alfred going into hiding after losing most of his power in wessex after the battle of Chippenham. he wasn't necessarily exiled, more just ran away into hiding until he could build up more power
@@dwrig0165 They should continue the story through a dlc or something because it feels so unfinished. We didn’t even get to have a big battle at the end we literally raided a village with a small church lmao but I want to see Guthrum denounce the gods and rule over East Anglia like Alfred made him do in real life
Screwed up a little bit at 9:40. Those are the norns, the weavers of fate. Verdandi (present), Urd (fate), and Skuld (future).
They are all called sages. If you read the letter in Alfred's study at the end they are mentioned
One pretty interesting detail to Eivor actually being a woman, and Odin being the male part the Animus recognises, is that even if you play as the male Eivor, several times in the story characters refer to you as a "she" or "her". That really annoyed me because I thought it was a glitch, until I played until the end and realised Eivor was actually a woman.
Trying to get this into people's heads is very hard. There's also the bit in Aelfred's study where her full name is written out. Eivor Varinsdottir.
14:12 - "Hunts down the remaining ancients and zealots" - continues to show Örlög footage. Ah yes, the true enemy of the game
Tbf you need to play a game of Orlog to find an Order member
@@HM4Hill Nahh I said fuck that. I just went ahead and googled where that member was and killed him early
I'm pretty sure Thor becomes Halfdan not Ubba just based on how Halfdan interacts with everyone.
Kinda ironic how Eivor basically helped create the Templar
For those wondering, it doesn't really matter much which gender you choose. Eivor being a sage is the in lore explanation why you could choose genders in this game's animus, essentially taking Odin's form within the memory since his DNA is mixed with Eivor's. There are hints to Eivor's gender throughout the game, be it quests or world events, but it doesn't change the game much if at all. I chose male Eivor for his voice acting, the same reason I chose Kassandra in Odyssey.
This is not a spoiler, this is a predilection as I haven't finished the order of the ancients yet. I thought the High Leader of the ancients was actually Basim, but seeing how things turned out to him, now I only have one suspect, King Alfred.
really nice video man , helped me to understand things that were confusing for me after finishing the game, the way it played out for me, even tho I finished all the content , was that it really felt like there was something missing, I also dont remember seeing the credits roll out. But you explained it really well , thanks !
I read somewhere that subject 16 told desmond to find eve and his son. so im assuming the reader found eve just now?
also they had nolan north voice the reader and thats desmond's voice actor
@@SwoleSenjuXL Eve is Layla. Supposedly. Desmond is Adam. Again supposedly. With regards to Lucy, she was working with Abstergo the whole time. Like a triple agent.
Desmond never found his son tho 😭