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This is the most descriptive and accurate review I’ve seen for Vivobarefoot shoes by far. There are many points to which you have touched upon that I was also curious to know about. I’m glad to find this video of yours. Such a fantastic and thorough review!
Dude 100% at 3:00 when you pointed out removing the insole you just saved me from sending these shoes back. I hated the lack of ground feel in these (just got them yesterday) and when I looked inside the insole was fit so well (so you know, props to them for a good design) I didn't think it was removable and for whatever reason I just didn't try. SO much damn better now.
So valuable to hear your detailed review after significant use, thank you! I had a thought about the toe impact you talk about at 9:16. When that is happening, it MAY mean that you're landing forward of your center of gravity, creating a slight backward/braking force. Could be a useful bit of feedback (from your toes) and an opportunity to eliminate some efficiency loss.
As you say, I definitely suspect it is due to some element of running inefficiency and it's something I've spent a lot of time working on since I first started out in barefoots. Thank you for your support!
I had a similar unfortunate experience hiking in vivo manga forest. on the second day 3 toenails were bruised and hurt and I had to go back to traditional full shoes. interesting to hear it's not just me.
These shoes are the most durable I e ever had. Use them for mixed road and trail runs the past 2 years. Nothing too technical.tread still feels like new but the area around the ankle is a little ruffed up.
I have a pair of Vivos and they’re awesome. Just order this pair your talking about, the pair I currently own have already outlasted any other shoe I’ve owed, definitely will pay the money for theses again and again.
As always, excellent review. IMO, Vivo's are the most rugged and durable/long lasting shoe currently made, especially in the world of "minimalist/barefoot." There's really nothing like them, or as good. I came into them from further down the spectrum of barefoot shoes, after switching to long distance running (road and trail) in Vibram FiveFingers. I started wearing the Vivo Primus Trail FG as work shoe, as a mechanic, standing all day on gritty, oily, concrete, shop floors. My "regular" oxford style, mechanic shoes, were causing knee pain due to the raised heel, and walking around on that hard sole. The Vivos were the cure, and I've been wearing them ever since. I can get a little over a year out of a pair, under those shop floor conditions, and when they get really dirty from the oil and grit that gets spilled on them, I pressure wash the top fabric, usually with my feet in them, if it's a hot day. Works great. If I didn't love the FiveFingers so much for running/hiking/backpacking, I would certainly be using some version of Vivos.
Have been wearing these in East Arnhem Land for a week. Comfortable to walk in. During East Arnhem Athletics Carnival, Elko Island, I was on my feet all day for four days wearing these shoes. It is a sensory experience to walk them over different terrain such as pebbles, red sand rocks grass wooden piers etc. With thick socks I like them as an everyday shoe but I am undecided and concerned about wearing them to race an ultra or marathon in competitively. Would love to see a review of anyone using these shoes to race in ultra trails.
If you check out 'Tony Riddell' you'll be able to see him running Ultras in them, here's done Johns O'Groats to Lands End, the Three Peaks and several other challenges in these sorts of shoes. Definitely wouldn't start off with that as the intention though, as you probably experienced it takes some getting used to and definitely worth making sure you can walk BEFORE you run!
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject Actually that is "Tony Riddle" ...amazing to see his accomplishments in barefoot running. Thanks for your reviews...I'm gaining a lot of knowledge!
Great thorough review! Thank you. have you tried this same shoe in the water repellant/all weather fabric? I have and curious if so if you found the volume less, punchy/painful on medial top of foot in a dime size area with the shoes u laced. I too rarely tighten.
The heel strike is a western training. I have rarely ever worn an explicitly "barefoot" shoe (marketed thusly), but always have stuck with the forefoot/midfoot strike that comes naturally to humans. Actually, the recently discontinued Nike Free Run 5.0 is my all-time favorite barefoot-ish shoe. I just bought 5 of the last pairs from SportCheck and Nike in Canada. These are perfect for rock hopping too, and they will totally allow the foot to grip the sharp edges of large rocks while cushioning fully.
I hear you, barefoot shoes definitely make natural movement a lot easier though. Interesting about the free run… for your own knowledge and anyone reading this, it has a total stack height of about 23mm and a 9mm drop (so 23mm thick at the heel, 14mm at the forefoot) which would actually promote heel striking in anyone not paying close attention like yourself and also potentially shorten the Achilles tendon over time restricting ankle mobility. I’d generally recommend no more than a 10mm stack height and zero drop for that reason but I’m pleased you’ve found a shoe that works well for you!
I loved the Nike Free run and used them exclusively until I made the switch to barefoot this year. It was an easy transition for new because of that I think
Been wearing barefoot shoes and trainers for just over a year, don't think I could go back to wearing traditional shoes and trainers. Careful with the vivo stuff, the stitching tends to break.
Once you go barefoot, you never go back! They have definitely had some quality issues but from what I’ve heard they’ve been sorted now for the most part 🤞🏽
Do you know of any model that has a slightly thicker sole, but is still barefoot? I'm actually looking for one barefoot for skateboarding, but they all seem to have soles that are too thin to withstand the impact and the top to fragile to withstand the abuse of a skateboard, which has sandpaper attached to it!
Honestly - Vans! I did a full video on it (linked below) but some of the models have a fully removable insole that turns them into very flexible, very hardwearing minimalist shoes. The only thing you miss out on is the toe box BUT if you order some of the wide versions on their website you can work around it. Video is here for you: ua-cam.com/video/T0fIK6CXOik/v-deo.html
No but you should checkout the VivoBarefoot Hydra ESC, I did a video on them here: Hike, Swim, Run: VivoBarefoot Hydra ESC Field Test ua-cam.com/video/zQWxJwrpchU/v-deo.html
Are there any easy ways to alternately lace these? Typically I lace running shoes in a pattern to relieve pressure on the top of the foot, as I often have numbness or pain at the top of the foot if I leave the stgandard cross patterns shoes come with. Not sure how well this thin since lace will work for me.
You could definitely do that, in fact I cut off the pull cord and did it on another set I have and if memory serves, they actually came with laces in the box! I will say however the elasticated body of the shoe does the majority of the holding in place with the pull cord playing a fairly minor roll. Let me know what you end up doing though!
I have knit vivos and it made nasty pressure on top of my feet and ankle, and you can see that the opening for leg is a bit narrow. After that I choose only versions with tongue where you can modify the fit eith laces easily.
Great review but I am highly disappointed with the same high amount of wear on the forefoot of my 6 month old shoes , I’m going to by two pairs of merrel vapour glove 5 for the same price as another pair of vivos😢
You're not the first person to have asked that question! I'll be doing a video on it over the next few weeks but something like the Injinji run or a loosely elasticated stance performance ankle sock would be my go to.
Yes quite a lot! I’ve found them to be great in the wet on both trail and tarmac but worth noting they have zero traction on wet metal grates/manhole covers
thank you for this review! Im debating getting a standard trail or an all weather - only thing stopping me getting the all weather is that people say they're not breathable, get sweaty and smelly have you had experience of both? what's the water resistance like of the standard trail?
And thank you for this comment! I have both and both are great, the all weathers do get a bit funky as you’d expect with the mud, grit and puddles they’re subjected to (despite deep cleaning them with a hose after every run). The knits have zero water repellency (as they’re knitted fabric) but are infinitely more breathable, it all boils down to what terrain you plan on using them in most
Yep - I used them to train and then run a half marathon on concrete. I’d definitely recommend doubling up the insoles on training runs to provide a little more cushioning as road is very unforgiving
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject thanks for the response mate. I’ll order them soon. I currently have a pair of Vivo’s and I don’t wear any inner soles at all because they were nipping my feet and it felt more comfortable without! The trainers are very worn now though and I am wary now that I’m running more that I should have some inner soles. These Trails looks a bit more sturdy than the ones I have
Have you had any issues with the lacing system? I just recently got a pair of these, but I end up having a ton of extra length in the chord once I tighten them.
In short, yes. I tend to loop it under the bottom lace and put a knot in it so it stays out the way but you can also cut it down to size. But with the knits, I find the elasticated uppers provide plenty of support without having to cinch the laces tight most of the time so only tighten and tie when doing runs etc ✌🏽
Your barefoot reviews are awesome. Hard to find vivos here in NZ to try on etc so really appreciate all of your in depth. Would love a list of favourite shoes for the purpose: Trail running Multiday hiking/light mountaineering Everyday activity / training
Thank you, appreciate it! Trail running: Primus Trail FG, absolutely unreal Multi-day hiking: Depends on the season/terrain so... Dry and hot: Primus Trail FG Cold and wet: Tracker All Weather SG Spring/Autumn: Magna Forest ESC Everyday activity: Primus Trail FG or Primus Lite
Excellent video, very informative. I have just bought a pair of Tracker Forest ESCs, size 9.5, and they fit me fine, though I'd buy a 10.5 or 11 in ordinary shoes (probably to get the extra width I need). Is the Primus sizing the same? The shoes you are testing here - they are the ORIGINAL (mk1) Primus Trail Knit FG? What are the differences between them, and the Primus Trail 2 and 3? It does become quite confusing differentiating between all the different micro- models!
Definitely considering these! How would you say they do for winter running in cold weather? Trying to decide between these or the All-weather FG 2s. I like the sock fit of these better so I'm torn. Thoughts? Thanks so much for the great videos!
Depends where you live! Deep Canada in -30, not a chance but I used these to train for a half throughout English winter (notoriously wet) and they did great but did need dried out on the fire every night. The alternative would be the Primus Trail All Weather (as opposed to these, the knit) but as you say, lose the sock fit. Personally, I'd go for the trail FG (these) and use the code GT10 to get 10% off at checkout ;)
These look like the Primus Trail Knit FG (the sole is not black like the Primus Trail 2's...) Aren't they? I am asking because I am concerned about the upper's durability of the Knit vs the Trail 2's. You seem to say it shouldn't be a concern?
These are the Trail Knit FG's and in my opinion the build quality is excellent! As I mentioned in the video I have done just about everything imaginable in these shoes and they straight up refuse to give in. Definitely recommend giving them a try.
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject this took me a while to figure out (that they are actually the ' knit' ). would be worthwhile putting in the description, even if the video is older. thanks
How do you think these will hold up to playing tennis on outdoor hardcourts? Also looking for a basketball shoe. Is this going to be good for that or is there something else you reccomend? Thank you!
Great question and I think it comes down to personal preference. I spend a lot of time outside walking around on muddy paths with the dogs outside the gym etc so I would lean towards the Primus Trail but if you’re city based the Primus lites would be perfect. If it’s an even split just go for whichever one you prefer the look of and don’t forget to use GT10 at checkout for 10% off, it all helps!
Hey Oliver, Yes I do (99.9% of the time unless I'm using them to doss about a campsite etc) and yes, I'd say they do collect an odour though they are machine washable which is an awesome feature. These have been through the machine 3 or 4 times and it hasn't impacted the shoe at all!
Probably something with zero drop and some cushioning like the xero HFS road running shoes. If you went straight into running in zero drop zero cushioning shoes like these as a novice you'd probably pick up a few injuries!
In my experience, well as long as you adjust your stride for the conditions! As with any shoe, fly at it in an all out sprint and expect mixed results 😆🙌🏽
Don’t get my wrong, these are definitely not climbing shoes and I’m not in anyway recommending them for climbing, but for sure, I’ve gotten away with them on 4/ low grade 5’s with good hand placements as a fairly confident climber with high levels of comfort and mid levels of sketch. Wouldn’t recommend them for anything other than just getting up an easy section to a harder pitch or scrambling
You could (and I have) used them for both. But, if you’re running on sopping wet trails getting caked in mud, grit and whatever else, the other people in the gym might not thank you for it. I now primarily use these for my trail running and the Primus lites for my weightlifting, if you do decide to get a pair GT10 will get you 10% off at checkout 🙌🏽
Hey Jack, Fundamentally they're the same shoes with a slightly different outer material providing the all weather capability of the All Weather FG's. Really it boils down to where (and when) you plan on using them. For short day hikes where you might encounter a puddle or two, I'd go for the all weathers. For long day hikes or multi day hikes I'd opt for the Trail FG as they are quicker drying. For training you could go for either though the ventilation of the Trail FG vs the all weather would definitely help. If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to shoot. I also have a pair of All Weathers with me in Canada so could even shoot a review video on them!
They have some pretty aggressive lugs on the bottom which will provide less contact / grip on a flat hard surface like a lifting platform. You’d want to a non-trail variant. If you want to stick with Vivo then have a look at the Primus Lite III. Xero shoes also make some pretty good options with their Prio and HFS. Primus probably win for style and HFS form comfort (imho).
As Andrew says, they've got some fairly hefty lugs on the bottom BUT given they're not cheap I would (and do) use them for lifting as well. The grip is excellent on all gym conditions with the sole exception of a wet (sweat dripped etc) weight lifting platform. Hope that helps!
Hey Shawn - it's really hard to say but they were my go to for literally everything for an entire year so I would safely say well over 1000 in that time.
I’m currently changing over from narrow toe box running shoes to wide toe box running shoes. Using Altra Escalante 3 running shoes for more cushioning when running… The VIVO Primus Trail FG look great but I’m not a fan of toggles to tighten the shoes, preferring laces instead, double tying them. I’m U.K. size 9.5 which is EU size 44.5. So, I’m not sure should I downsize or upsize, choosing either 44 or 45? VIVO don’t make half sizes for some reason. I’m flat footed as well. Also, I may wear them with or without correct toes, if that’s possible with these shoes.
Surprisingly it’s not at all! The rubber of the sole takes out the sharp edges and steep gradient of the stone (or branch, rock etc) so you just get a very tactile walking/running experience where you can feel your environment. I’ve also found it incredibly helpful from a stability standpoint as you can feel any little slip of traction giving you time to adjust before falling/tripping over
I thought that but am really enjoying the experience. It's true about the feedback from the grounds surface making your feet react accordingly and you feel a lot more stable than big cushioned soles. I use Whitin's though, they're great and you can buy loads for the cost of one pair of these.
I wouldn't say it is given the quality of the product. What we need to remember is that this is a fairly niche product (like a climbing shoes, marathon shoe etc) which means the market is significantly smaller. For any product that almost guarantees a higher cost to the consumer. All of that considered, I don't think £140 is crazy expensive.
That's a shame, I'd send the Vivo team a message. I've only ever had 1 issue with a pair of shoes and they were brilliant with getting out some replacements
@@williamcdure4630 I wanted to buy a pair of vivos, but recent reviews were way worse than older reviews. It was the dealbreaker for me. And the assortment was a bit limited.
Asics, Adidas, Nike, etc should start making barefoot shoes to bring down the price. You pay more for less. Vivo is sooo overpriced! Maybe you could push the industry to move in the right direction. It should be a crime to produce any other shoe but barefoot shoes, cause its unnatural. Give your life to Jesus, God and be saved!
I agree, it would be amazing if the prices were more accessible but at the moment until barefoot shoes become more mainstream, a small company like vivo might struggle to both R&D, produce shoes and stay afloat. Hopefully my videos will help more people get on board and we’ll see the cost to consumer fall. If you aren’t already, make sure to sub to the channel as I’ll be filming a ‘how-to make your own barefoot shoes on a budget’ in the next couple of weeks 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Vivo is expensive, yet the quality is top notch. You're not only getting one of the best barefoot shoes on the market but the company does so MUCH community work. They are trying to create a eco friendly sustainable company that isn't just for polluting our eco system. Check them out! God bless!
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject I do like these shoes but for me the Freet As well as being cheaper ,they are more comfortable and they actually grip better .. I am an ultra runner. My usual weekly training runs are between 10-25 miles a morning . I have used them on a few 15 mile runs but will admit they do give me achey feet after ..not during the run . I often use them on shorter 10- 12 mile runs without issue but really for me they are suited to shorter nippy 10 k type runs . Realistically I wear more capable shoes in races , currently Inov8 Terra ultra 270 which are zero drop but not minimal. I use barefoot shoes to tone my calfs and work out my Achilles .
Sorry, if you're getting free footwear; you're never going to kill the golden goose! Unless you buy them yourself, your never going to be fully invested in the outcome. So why should we be fully invested in your post; which is essentially an advert for this company!?
Hey Tim, I was wearing barefoot shoes long before anyone started giving me them for free but I see your point. My investment in outcome is the time, effort and energy I've spent wearing them and building my body to be able to comfortably run barefoot half marathons which is something I'm both proud of and stand by. Though getting the occasional free shoe definitely puts me in a privileged position when it comes to reviewing a number of shoes (I don't think my YT channel has generated enough revenue to even buy half a pair yet 🤣), you'll find just as many videos of me picking 'holes' in models from the vivo line as you will endorsing them. Check out some of the other videos I've done, hopefully you'll be able to see where I'm coming from and will choose to stick around - cheers! Clem
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject Hey Clem, I totally respect what you're saying, and my response to your post wasn't meant personally. I hope you understand that. When you say that you have given negative feedback on previous posts with reference to this company's footwear; are you referring to footwear that you purchased personally, or where they gifted to you also? In my humble opinion, that's the problem with accepting gifts; and don't get me wrong, if someone offered me a free pair of Vivos, I would gladly accept them. But it does, again, in my humble opinion, diminish your channel. For example, if in the past you have criticized a product and the said company sends you a free product(which would have been quality checked); which you then go on to praise; well that kinda looks like you've been bought. Even if your review was completely honest and truthful. I suppose, that at the end of the day it all comes down to a credibility issue. For your words to mean something, then you need to earn that trust. Taking "bribes" doesn't help your credibility at all, again in my humble opinion! I'm not questioning your integrity, as I don't personally know you. And as I said, I don't blame you for accepting a free pair of expensive footwear. But these companies don't send you them out of the goodness of their hearts. They expect a good review in return. I'm merely commenting; and not that my opinion is worth much; about a choice you made regarding your channel. If you set it up to get free stuff, then you're doing great. If however, you wanted to become a trusted post, where folk watch your channel for good honest and unbiased reviews and opinions; then not so good! I already own one pair of vivos, which weren't of the greatest quality..in my humble opinion. These are very expensive shoes, and before I invest in another pair; obviously I'm going to check other reviews. However, I will always pay more attention to folk who have bought the product over being gifted it. That is not meant to sound mean spirited. Your channel looks good and you are a charismatic chap, who works well in front of the camera. Again, I meant nothing detrimental by my comments; I was just a bit disappointed, that's all! Take care Clem.
Well, they’re definitely not cheap but certainly on a par with Nike, Adidas etc which for a relatively small, niche business is pretty good going! Hopefully they’ll be able to reduce their prices when they become more mass market 🤞🏽
Given I stated the fact I got the shoes for free, highlighted both the good and the bad and went on to shred their most recent shoes (Primus Trail III SG) in my more recent video, I'm inclined to disagree with you. I will always be editorially unbiased as without it, my opinion would be worthless.
Would you say these or the Primus Lite III are better for greater range of activities, including weightlifting, running and walking? I'm a newbie to Barefoot, so it would be my first pair.
I would probably say the Primus Trail if you're brand new to them, they're slightly less aggressive than the Lites and can be used in a greater weather range. Hope that helps!
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This is the most descriptive and accurate review I’ve seen for Vivobarefoot shoes by far. There are many points to which you have touched upon that I was also curious to know about. I’m glad to find this video of yours. Such a fantastic and thorough review!
Dude 100% at 3:00 when you pointed out removing the insole you just saved me from sending these shoes back. I hated the lack of ground feel in these (just got them yesterday) and when I looked inside the insole was fit so well (so you know, props to them for a good design) I didn't think it was removable and for whatever reason I just didn't try. SO much damn better now.
I’m pleased I saved you a headache! For such a simple mod it really changes the dynamic of the shoe - wishing you many happy miles 🙌🏽
So valuable to hear your detailed review after significant use, thank you! I had a thought about the toe impact you talk about at 9:16. When that is happening, it MAY mean that you're landing forward of your center of gravity, creating a slight backward/braking force. Could be a useful bit of feedback (from your toes) and an opportunity to eliminate some efficiency loss.
As you say, I definitely suspect it is due to some element of running inefficiency and it's something I've spent a lot of time working on since I first started out in barefoots. Thank you for your support!
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject I'm pleased if it's useful, and thank you. Happy running :~)
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject would you get the same thing if you wore them a size larger?
I had a similar unfortunate experience hiking in vivo manga forest. on the second day 3 toenails were bruised and hurt and I had to go back to traditional full shoes. interesting to hear it's not just me.
These shoes are the most durable I e ever had. Use them for mixed road and trail runs the past 2 years. Nothing too technical.tread still feels like new but the area around the ankle is a little ruffed up.
Hi Nathan,
Very much agree. They're awesome shoes, the new Deacon FG's that Vivos hinted at releasing look mega as well.
Thanks for the video! It seems you should size up for this pair? I'm lost because it feels like every shoe varies in fit.
Hi Mohamed, for these I’ve found they run true to size (and have just got another pair as I officially killed these ones off!)
I have a pair of Vivos and they’re awesome. Just order this pair your talking about, the pair I currently own have already outlasted any other shoe I’ve owed, definitely will pay the money for theses again and again.
I couldn’t agree more, for something so minimalist they’re durable AF!
As always, excellent review. IMO, Vivo's are the most rugged and durable/long lasting shoe currently made, especially in the world of "minimalist/barefoot." There's really nothing like them, or as good. I came into them from further down the spectrum of barefoot shoes, after switching to long distance running (road and trail) in Vibram FiveFingers. I started wearing the Vivo Primus Trail FG as work shoe, as a mechanic, standing all day on gritty, oily, concrete, shop floors. My "regular" oxford style, mechanic shoes, were causing knee pain due to the raised heel, and walking around on that hard sole. The Vivos were the cure, and I've been wearing them ever since. I can get a little over a year out of a pair, under those shop floor conditions, and when they get really dirty from the oil and grit that gets spilled on them, I pressure wash the top fabric, usually with my feet in them, if it's a hot day. Works great. If I didn't love the FiveFingers so much for running/hiking/backpacking, I would certainly be using some version of Vivos.
Have been wearing these in East Arnhem Land for a week. Comfortable to walk in. During East Arnhem Athletics Carnival, Elko Island, I was on my feet all day for four days wearing these shoes. It is a sensory experience to walk them over different terrain such as pebbles, red sand rocks grass wooden piers etc. With thick socks I like them as an everyday shoe but I am undecided and concerned about wearing them to race an ultra or marathon in competitively. Would love to see a review of anyone using these shoes to race in ultra trails.
If you check out 'Tony Riddell' you'll be able to see him running Ultras in them, here's done Johns O'Groats to Lands End, the Three Peaks and several other challenges in these sorts of shoes. Definitely wouldn't start off with that as the intention though, as you probably experienced it takes some getting used to and definitely worth making sure you can walk BEFORE you run!
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject Actually that is "Tony Riddle" ...amazing to see his accomplishments in barefoot running. Thanks for your reviews...I'm gaining a lot of knowledge!
Great thorough review! Thank you. have you tried this same shoe in the water repellant/all weather fabric? I have and curious if so if you found the volume less, punchy/painful on medial top of foot in a dime size area with the shoes u laced. I too rarely tighten.
The heel strike is a western training. I have rarely ever worn an explicitly "barefoot" shoe (marketed thusly), but always have stuck with the forefoot/midfoot strike that comes naturally to humans. Actually, the recently discontinued Nike Free Run 5.0 is my all-time favorite barefoot-ish shoe. I just bought 5 of the last pairs from SportCheck and Nike in Canada. These are perfect for rock hopping too, and they will totally allow the foot to grip the sharp edges of large rocks while cushioning fully.
I hear you, barefoot shoes definitely make natural movement a lot easier though.
Interesting about the free run… for your own knowledge and anyone reading this, it has a total stack height of about 23mm and a 9mm drop (so 23mm thick at the heel, 14mm at the forefoot) which would actually promote heel striking in anyone not paying close attention like yourself and also potentially shorten the Achilles tendon over time restricting ankle mobility.
I’d generally recommend no more than a 10mm stack height and zero drop for that reason but I’m pleased you’ve found a shoe that works well for you!
I loved the Nike Free run and used them exclusively until I made the switch to barefoot this year. It was an easy transition for new because of that I think
Been wearing barefoot shoes and trainers for just over a year, don't think I could go back to wearing traditional shoes and trainers. Careful with the vivo stuff, the stitching tends to break.
Once you go barefoot, you never go back! They have definitely had some quality issues but from what I’ve heard they’ve been sorted now for the most part 🤞🏽
I love Vivo, and hope they start a revivo for the US
Fingers crossed!
i actually found the sole too thick and uncomfortable. taking out the insert really helped. they now feel a lot more comfortable and maneuverable.
Great review and tremendous help!
Glad to hear it!
Great review, just getting into barefoot and very useful and honest info.
Thank you - I have a unboxing and first impression review of the new Primus Trail III SG’s going live on Thursday morning!
great video man, you deserve more subs
I appreciate that, and working on it!
Im resoling mine with the Vibram Zegama soles
Have you done it already? If so, how easy was it/how did it go?
Do you know of any model that has a slightly thicker sole, but is still barefoot? I'm actually looking for one barefoot for skateboarding, but they all seem to have soles that are too thin to withstand the impact and the top to fragile to withstand the abuse of a skateboard, which has sandpaper attached to it!
Honestly - Vans! I did a full video on it (linked below) but some of the models have a fully removable insole that turns them into very flexible, very hardwearing minimalist shoes. The only thing you miss out on is the toe box BUT if you order some of the wide versions on their website you can work around it. Video is here for you: ua-cam.com/video/T0fIK6CXOik/v-deo.html
Cheers- like the depth and detail you go to!!!
Thank you - I appreciate it!
Are these good for swimming? nothing on a professional use
No but you should checkout the VivoBarefoot Hydra ESC, I did a video on them here: Hike, Swim, Run: VivoBarefoot Hydra ESC Field Test
ua-cam.com/video/zQWxJwrpchU/v-deo.html
Like the others, just a very nice honest review. Appreciated!
Thank you John - I appreciate it!
Are there any easy ways to alternately lace these? Typically I lace running shoes in a pattern to relieve pressure on the top of the foot, as I often have numbness or pain at the top of the foot if I leave the stgandard cross patterns shoes come with. Not sure how well this thin since lace will work for me.
You could definitely do that, in fact I cut off the pull cord and did it on another set I have and if memory serves, they actually came with laces in the box!
I will say however the elasticated body of the shoe does the majority of the holding in place with the pull cord playing a fairly minor roll. Let me know what you end up doing though!
I have knit vivos and it made nasty pressure on top of my feet and ankle, and you can see that the opening for leg is a bit narrow. After that I choose only versions with tongue where you can modify the fit eith laces easily.
Great review but I am highly disappointed with the same high amount of wear on the forefoot of my 6 month old shoes , I’m going to by two pairs of merrel vapour glove 5 for the same price as another pair of vivos😢
That is disappointing! I can’t comment as I haven’t had that experience at all but hope the merrels work better for you, they’re awesome!
How quickly do they dry after a stream crossing?
Great review. What socks would you recommend for barefoot shoes like these?
You're not the first person to have asked that question! I'll be doing a video on it over the next few weeks but something like the Injinji run or a loosely elasticated stance performance ankle sock would be my go to.
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject right on thank you.
Thanks for the honest review! Did you go running with these shoes in rain or do you have any experience with this shoes if it is wet outdoors?
Yes quite a lot! I’ve found them to be great in the wet on both trail and tarmac but worth noting they have zero traction on wet metal grates/manhole covers
thank you for this review! Im debating getting a standard trail or an all weather - only thing stopping me getting the all weather is that people say they're not breathable, get sweaty and smelly
have you had experience of both? what's the water resistance like of the standard trail?
And thank you for this comment! I have both and both are great, the all weathers do get a bit funky as you’d expect with the mud, grit and puddles they’re subjected to (despite deep cleaning them with a hose after every run).
The knits have zero water repellency (as they’re knitted fabric) but are infinitely more breathable, it all boils down to what terrain you plan on using them in most
Are the Primus Trails suited in anyway to road running and gravel running??
Yep - I used them to train and then run a half marathon on concrete. I’d definitely recommend doubling up the insoles on training runs to provide a little more cushioning as road is very unforgiving
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject thanks for the response mate. I’ll order them soon. I currently have a pair of Vivo’s and I don’t wear any inner soles at all because they were nipping my feet and it felt more comfortable without! The trainers are very worn now though and I am wary now that I’m running more that I should have some inner soles. These Trails looks a bit more sturdy than the ones I have
Have you had any issues with the lacing system? I just recently got a pair of these, but I end up having a ton of extra length in the chord once I tighten them.
In short, yes. I tend to loop it under the bottom lace and put a knot in it so it stays out the way but you can also cut it down to size.
But with the knits, I find the elasticated uppers provide plenty of support without having to cinch the laces tight most of the time so only tighten and tie when doing runs etc ✌🏽
Your barefoot reviews are awesome. Hard to find vivos here in NZ to try on etc so really appreciate all of your in depth.
Would love a list of favourite shoes for the purpose:
Trail running
Multiday hiking/light mountaineering
Everyday activity / training
Thank you, appreciate it!
Trail running: Primus Trail FG, absolutely unreal
Multi-day hiking: Depends on the season/terrain so...
Dry and hot: Primus Trail FG
Cold and wet: Tracker All Weather SG
Spring/Autumn: Magna Forest ESC
Everyday activity: Primus Trail FG or Primus Lite
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject Awesome, thanks heaps
Excellent video, very informative. I have just bought a pair of Tracker Forest ESCs, size 9.5, and they fit me fine, though I'd buy a 10.5 or 11 in ordinary shoes (probably to get the extra width I need).
Is the Primus sizing the same?
The shoes you are testing here - they are the ORIGINAL (mk1) Primus Trail Knit FG?
What are the differences between them, and the Primus Trail 2 and 3? It does become quite confusing differentiating between all the different micro- models!
How do you wash these shoes?
I put them in the washing machine on a cool cycle with some mild detergent and a towel 👍🏼
Definitely considering these! How would you say they do for winter running in cold weather? Trying to decide between these or the All-weather FG 2s. I like the sock fit of these better so I'm torn. Thoughts? Thanks so much for the great videos!
Depends where you live! Deep Canada in -30, not a chance but I used these to train for a half throughout English winter (notoriously wet) and they did great but did need dried out on the fire every night. The alternative would be the Primus Trail All Weather (as opposed to these, the knit) but as you say, lose the sock fit.
Personally, I'd go for the trail FG (these) and use the code GT10 to get 10% off at checkout ;)
These look like the Primus Trail Knit FG (the sole is not black like the Primus Trail 2's...) Aren't they?
I am asking because I am concerned about the upper's durability of the Knit vs the Trail 2's.
You seem to say it shouldn't be a concern?
These are the Trail Knit FG's and in my opinion the build quality is excellent! As I mentioned in the video I have done just about everything imaginable in these shoes and they straight up refuse to give in. Definitely recommend giving them a try.
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject this took me a while to figure out (that they are actually the ' knit' ). would be worthwhile putting in the description, even if the video is older. thanks
Great review! I’ll pick some up
I'm pleased it was helpful for you!
How do you think these will hold up to playing tennis on outdoor hardcourts? Also looking for a basketball shoe. Is this going to be good for that or is there something else you reccomend? Thank you!
I would imagine pretty well, the trail design makes them perfect for sharp fast turns - only one way to find out for sure though!
Would you recommend them for cross training? In and out of gym? Or prefer the Primus lite 3?
Great question and I think it comes down to personal preference. I spend a lot of time outside walking around on muddy paths with the dogs outside the gym etc so I would lean towards the Primus Trail but if you’re city based the Primus lites would be perfect.
If it’s an even split just go for whichever one you prefer the look of and don’t forget to use GT10 at checkout for 10% off, it all helps!
Are these good for playing sports like tennis, squash, football etc?
As long as you’ve spent time being able to run etc in barefoot shoes before trying then yes absolutely. They’re incredibly versatile
What a fantastic review!
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Great review! Do you wear socks in them ? Do the shoes have a bad smell?
Hey Oliver,
Yes I do (99.9% of the time unless I'm using them to doss about a campsite etc) and yes, I'd say they do collect an odour though they are machine washable which is an awesome feature. These have been through the machine 3 or 4 times and it hasn't impacted the shoe at all!
I have the high tops tracker forest. Absolutely love them. Wish they were free tho lol
They're awesome boots, did you happen to see the review I did of them a few weeks ago? Sounds like we've had a pretty similar experience with them!
What do you reccomend for the best barefoot concrete road running for a novice?
Probably something with zero drop and some cushioning like the xero HFS road running shoes. If you went straight into running in zero drop zero cushioning shoes like these as a novice you'd probably pick up a few injuries!
so I know my vivo size, now I have the opportunity to buy used primus trail/ men evo trail ob ebay, should I go a size down for soccer use?
vivobarefot just released the new Trail III SG. I really love looking at it✨ but sadly too pricey for me.
I think I might get some for another torture test review video!
They’ve literally just arrived - should I film an unboxing/first impression video?
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject Wow😯, Yes please!
It'll be out on Thursday
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject I would be curious if you would recommend these or the new SG 3s?
damn solid review. thank you sir!
Thank you - I really appreciate it!
Excelent review, thank you very much for the effort and detail on it.
No problem - I'm glad it was helpful!
How well do these grip on smooth and wet rocks?
In my experience, well as long as you adjust your stride for the conditions!
As with any shoe, fly at it in an all out sprint and expect mixed results 😆🙌🏽
would you recommend these or the primal lite? Specifically for someones first barefoot shoe?
I’d get these, the primus trail and build up to the lite AND use the code GT10 for a cheeky 10% off 😉
How were they on the mutipitch? Reasonably comfortable and secure or were they kind of sketchy. By low grade do you mean something like 2/3 FR?
Don’t get my wrong, these are definitely not climbing shoes and I’m not in anyway recommending them for climbing, but for sure, I’ve gotten away with them on 4/ low grade 5’s with good hand placements as a fairly confident climber with high levels of comfort and mid levels of sketch. Wouldn’t recommend them for anything other than just getting up an easy section to a harder pitch or scrambling
Great review. Thankyou a lot.
Pleased it was helpful Sam 🙌🏽
Do you think would be worth buying those to run on trail and another pair for weight training or those would work for weight lifting as well?
You could (and I have) used them for both. But, if you’re running on sopping wet trails getting caked in mud, grit and whatever else, the other people in the gym might not thank you for it.
I now primarily use these for my trail running and the Primus lites for my weightlifting, if you do decide to get a pair GT10 will get you 10% off at checkout 🙌🏽
could u reinforce this shoe with ducktape to protect it from tear during soccer?
You could if you wanted but I’d probably just buy the all weather versions instead which are made from a different type of material
You lost your nail because the shoes are too small. The toe bumper is required to save your feet in the case of kicking a rock.
Really helpful review, thanks a lot
Glad it was helpful!
How might you compare these against the Primus Trail All Weather FGs?
Hey Jack,
Fundamentally they're the same shoes with a slightly different outer material providing the all weather capability of the All Weather FG's.
Really it boils down to where (and when) you plan on using them. For short day hikes where you might encounter a puddle or two, I'd go for the all weathers.
For long day hikes or multi day hikes I'd opt for the Trail FG as they are quicker drying.
For training you could go for either though the ventilation of the Trail FG vs the all weather would definitely help.
If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to shoot. I also have a pair of All Weathers with me in Canada so could even shoot a review video on them!
Nice review! Thanks a lot.
Glad you liked it!
Purely for road running ,does these give more durability than the Primus Lite 3's ?
Probably not more durability, but definitely more comfort over distance 🤙🏽
might cop
All weather or normal trail? Opinions
Good question! I’ve just got a pair of all weathers through so I’ll find out for you 🙌🏽
Would you recommend these for weightlifting too? Or just on trails
They have some pretty aggressive lugs on the bottom which will provide less contact / grip on a flat hard surface like a lifting platform. You’d want to a non-trail variant. If you want to stick with Vivo then have a look at the Primus Lite III. Xero shoes also make some pretty good options with their Prio and HFS. Primus probably win for style and HFS form comfort (imho).
As Andrew says, they've got some fairly hefty lugs on the bottom BUT given they're not cheap I would (and do) use them for lifting as well. The grip is excellent on all gym conditions with the sole exception of a wet (sweat dripped etc) weight lifting platform.
Hope that helps!
Regarding durability - approximately how many miles/km are on that pair?
Hey Shawn - it's really hard to say but they were my go to for literally everything for an entire year so I would safely say well over 1000 in that time.
I’m currently changing over from narrow toe box running shoes to wide toe box running shoes. Using Altra Escalante 3 running shoes for more cushioning when running… The VIVO Primus Trail FG look great but I’m not a fan of toggles to tighten the shoes, preferring laces instead, double tying them. I’m U.K. size 9.5 which is EU size 44.5. So, I’m not sure should I downsize or upsize, choosing either 44 or 45? VIVO don’t make half sizes for some reason. I’m flat footed as well. Also, I may wear them with or without correct toes, if that’s possible with these shoes.
Why do want to feel every stone? Sounds painful.
Surprisingly it’s not at all! The rubber of the sole takes out the sharp edges and steep gradient of the stone (or branch, rock etc) so you just get a very tactile walking/running experience where you can feel your environment.
I’ve also found it incredibly helpful from a stability standpoint as you can feel any little slip of traction giving you time to adjust before falling/tripping over
I thought that but am really enjoying the experience. It's true about the feedback from the grounds surface making your feet react accordingly and you feel a lot more stable than big cushioned soles. I use Whitin's though, they're great and you can buy loads for the cost of one pair of these.
£140 is not crazy expensive for an "entry level" show ???? ( Not for a professional athlete may be )
I wouldn't say it is given the quality of the product.
What we need to remember is that this is a fairly niche product (like a climbing shoes, marathon shoe etc) which means the market is significantly smaller.
For any product that almost guarantees a higher cost to the consumer.
All of that considered, I don't think £140 is crazy expensive.
Great review, thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
My $250 Vivabarefoot shoes started to delaminate after a 7km. light walk. Would not touch these with a barge pole ever.
That's a shame, I'd send the Vivo team a message. I've only ever had 1 issue with a pair of shoes and they were brilliant with getting out some replacements
Which model did you buy?
That’s wild. Mine have held up amazingly
@@williamcdure4630 I wanted to buy a pair of vivos, but recent reviews were way worse than older reviews. It was the dealbreaker for me. And the assortment was a bit limited.
100 day warantee
And now they're $180 and rising.
I know - madness! That’s a lot of chicken tenders
I can recommend Revivo
Asics, Adidas, Nike, etc should start making barefoot shoes to bring down the price. You pay more for less. Vivo is sooo overpriced! Maybe you could push the industry to move in the right direction. It should be a crime to produce any other shoe but barefoot shoes, cause its unnatural. Give your life to Jesus, God and be saved!
I agree, it would be amazing if the prices were more accessible but at the moment until barefoot shoes become more mainstream, a small company like vivo might struggle to both R&D, produce shoes and stay afloat.
Hopefully my videos will help more people get on board and we’ll see the cost to consumer fall.
If you aren’t already, make sure to sub to the channel as I’ll be filming a ‘how-to make your own barefoot shoes on a budget’ in the next couple of weeks 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Vivo is expensive, yet the quality is top notch. You're not only getting one of the best barefoot shoes on the market but the company does so MUCH community work. They are trying to create a eco friendly sustainable company that isn't just for polluting our eco system. Check them out! God bless!
You want to support big companies who make obscene profits by making their products in eastern sweatshops? Good choice.
@@jasoncdebussy Yes, it's 3 times less expensive, if nobody wants to produce barefoot shoes at reasonable price, let the big companies.
@@etienne7774 Well done for supporting slavery.
I prefer Freet
I haven't had the chance to try them yet. What specifically do you like about them?
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject I do like these shoes but for me the Freet As well as being cheaper ,they are more comfortable and they actually grip better .. I am an ultra runner. My usual weekly training runs are between 10-25 miles a morning . I have used them on a few 15 mile runs but will admit they do give me achey feet after ..not during the run . I often use them on shorter 10- 12 mile runs without issue but really for me they are suited to shorter nippy 10 k type runs .
Realistically I wear more capable shoes in races , currently Inov8 Terra ultra 270 which are zero drop but not minimal. I use barefoot shoes to tone my calfs and work out my Achilles .
6:34 :)))
Sorry, if you're getting free footwear; you're never going to kill the golden goose! Unless you buy them yourself, your never going to be fully invested in the outcome. So why should we be fully invested in your post; which is essentially an advert for this company!?
Hey Tim,
I was wearing barefoot shoes long before anyone started giving me them for free but I see your point. My investment in outcome is the time, effort and energy I've spent wearing them and building my body to be able to comfortably run barefoot half marathons which is something I'm both proud of and stand by.
Though getting the occasional free shoe definitely puts me in a privileged position when it comes to reviewing a number of shoes (I don't think my YT channel has generated enough revenue to even buy half a pair yet 🤣), you'll find just as many videos of me picking 'holes' in models from the vivo line as you will endorsing them.
Check out some of the other videos I've done, hopefully you'll be able to see where I'm coming from and will choose to stick around - cheers! Clem
@@TheBarefootStrengthProject Hey Clem, I totally respect what you're saying, and my response to your post wasn't meant personally. I hope you understand that.
When you say that you have given negative feedback on previous posts with reference to this company's footwear; are you referring to footwear that you purchased personally, or where they gifted to you also?
In my humble opinion, that's the problem with accepting gifts; and don't get me wrong, if someone offered me a free pair of Vivos, I would gladly accept them. But it does, again, in my humble opinion, diminish your channel.
For example, if in the past you have criticized a product and the said company sends you a free product(which would have been quality checked); which you then go on to praise; well that kinda looks like you've been bought. Even if your review was completely honest and truthful.
I suppose, that at the end of the day it all comes down to a credibility issue. For your words to mean something, then you need to earn that trust. Taking "bribes" doesn't help your credibility at all, again in my humble opinion!
I'm not questioning your integrity, as I don't personally know you. And as I said, I don't blame you for accepting a free pair of expensive footwear. But these companies don't send you them out of the goodness of their hearts. They expect a good review in return.
I'm merely commenting; and not that my opinion is worth much; about a choice you made regarding your channel. If you set it up to get free stuff, then you're doing great. If however, you wanted to become a trusted post, where folk watch your channel for good honest and unbiased reviews and opinions; then not so good!
I already own one pair of vivos, which weren't of the greatest quality..in my humble opinion. These are very expensive shoes, and before I invest in another pair; obviously I'm going to check other reviews.
However, I will always pay more attention to folk who have bought the product over being gifted it. That is not meant to sound mean spirited.
Your channel looks good and you are a charismatic chap, who works well in front of the camera. Again, I meant nothing detrimental by my comments; I was just a bit disappointed, that's all! Take care Clem.
That is stupid expensive.
Well, they’re definitely not cheap but certainly on a par with Nike, Adidas etc which for a relatively small, niche business is pretty good going!
Hopefully they’ll be able to reduce their prices when they become more mass market 🤞🏽
Sponsored = Biased Review
Given I stated the fact I got the shoes for free, highlighted both the good and the bad and went on to shred their most recent shoes (Primus Trail III SG) in my more recent video, I'm inclined to disagree with you.
I will always be editorially unbiased as without it, my opinion would be worthless.
Would you say these or the Primus Lite III are better for greater range of activities, including weightlifting, running and walking? I'm a newbie to Barefoot, so it would be my first pair.
I would probably say the Primus Trail if you're brand new to them, they're slightly less aggressive than the Lites and can be used in a greater weather range. Hope that helps!