I wish I was lead blast or play. I’m lead consume-sleep and it’s ruining my life. I sleep 10 hours a day, spend several more hours not doing anything and just consuming information, go out for 2-3 hours and come home exhausted, spend more time just consuming information or video games or other media, then go to sleep again. Edit: I never said I wasn’t trying to do better. I am. I have a job and go out and socialise and do things. It does exhaust me. I do get anxious and overstimulated and often my mood deteriorates rapidly, but I try get through it anyway.
Lead sleep intj Ni-Fi here, I use to get so mad when people say I'm selfish, now I accept this side of myself and seek to improve by engaging more with the tribe, which is REALLY REALLY HARD!
Chris U. A natural preference for theory/concrete and concrete/theory is how you'd distinguish the two, one SHOULD use facts to solidify their theories Ni/Se and the other SHOULD use theories to solidify their facts Si/Ne but that's only if they use their axis nicely which is almost no one, so which of these do they have a harder time doing? Also, both are organizers so they want things narrowed down and lined up nicely whether that be ideas or things or people, so which do they get annoyed at when in savior mode? A barrage of unorganized facts (Se would argue That's not realistic!) or unorganized theories and ideas (Ne would argue What if this happens?)
Oooooo I’m a lead consume ENFP Ne/Fi here, and I’m an aspiring writer. One of the characters I’m working with is an Ni-Fi INTJ (Play last as well) and he honestly makes me want to learn so much about the type and how the Sleep/Play axis works, especially when those two functions are lead and last. Either way, I don’t know if you’ll ever see this response, but if you were willing, could you tell me a little bit about what lead sleep Ni-Fi is like and how it impacts your view of people?
@@erika89765 It has been a long time since I paid close attention to the OP community so I can't exactly give you a description using those terms, however, I will try my best to give you an informative responce, though keep in mind that Covid possibly had a major impact on how I interact with people as well. One thing I'd say is that I feel absolutely no social need at all. I interact with people with a purpose in mind. I don't just hang with you for the sake of hanging out with you I do it because I either need to cooperate with you or I want to discuss something that I think you'd have valuable input, or that because it is socially appropriate to have a close company and I think you are a good candidate that I want to be seen with. Another thing is that I enjoy doing pretty much all activities alone than with others. I do something for the intrinsic happiness value it provides, not to socialize. Basically very goal-orientated and quite hermitlike.
@@fangus5076 Ahhhh I’m sleep above play and this resonated a lot, but I adore the way you put it and I’m definitely going to keep it all in mind! Thank you so so SO much for this, it helps so much!! 🥺🤩
The funniest thing about this is how Elon got his big break. Somewhere there's an interview where he talk about the startup he was working in, some supposed killer app, but then the customer was mroe excited about this ancillary piece that processed the payments. That became PayPal. Lead sleep was busy developing the most amazing killer app he could ever imagine, and then the tribe came by and told him what they wanted, and he was like "Really? That's all. Sure, it's right over there. Just send me some money and I'll be over here working on hyperloops and shit."
@@adielwilson8749 yeah. Everybody else says "Lead Sleep, what are you doing squeezing that lump of coal? What a dirty useless thing to do." And years later Lead Sleep is like "Now it's a diamond, mofos."
Ugh, I'm sleep consume. Resting all day long, all the activity occurs in my brain. so people think I'm lazy but I'm not, I work by thinking problems through in every way possible.
“so if you think youre cool youre gonna be navigating towards being sleep or infj” me, an actual Ni-Ti INFJ who knows damn well how not cool it is and i wish i had an easier time being more involved with other people: i know my typing is real because i experience both the good and bad of it and it 100% explains everything but i wish i felt like people would stop doubting it. i really dont care if im “rare” or not and i dont wear it as a badge but its susprising to hear how much my actual self aligns with other people’s mistyping because they want to be me. its really not fun
Oh, I'm an actual INFJ too (8w9 8-4-6, sp/sx). I don't know about these "animals" yet very well, but I just happened to have a vision of an optimal life today and it doesn't require that much of other people. I don't know how close we even are actually in personality, but I know I can spend quite happily my time by just focusing on myself: Eating, studying, watching youtube, training. Occasional social thing can be doable too, but too much of it just ruins my "flow" of life.
Yes! What you said about cycle is so helpful. I have a public facing, high energy job. I love working the morning shift and going home to crash. I HATE working the evening because I spend ALL DAY waiting to “play”
Sleep crashers!! That’s me! Sleep third. I value it so much, because of how much I need it after Blast Playing all day. Also the fact that you ended this with a thug life Elon Musk clip just made my whole week. Like... I can’t even express with words how much.
@@John-ih7gp I just got into Objective Personality but lead Ni can only be Blast (Oi + De) or Sleep (Oi + Di) dominant. Blast is when you spread the information you organized to the tribe. I think I might have Blast savior. xD I really thought I was consume first though, even if it was impossible.
Pretty sure I slept my way thru my adolescence, consuming ideas, occasionally blasting in arguments when feeling threatened, and only in my 20s figured out how to play again.
I am an INFJ and I thought I was lead blast Ni-Fe for a long time... it turns out I just wished I was and tried really hard to be because my mom (ENFJ, Fe-Ni) really instilled that ideal in me. I learned I was sleep through the enneagram ironically, a couple of friends suggested to me that I was actually a 5. I was skeptical but open minded, so I spent the next several days reviewing information and data *facepalm for the obvious* and concluded they were most likely correct. Since then I have been coming to terms with what it means to be lead sleep, I see my problems more clearly but don't necessarily want to deal with them (seems exhausting :p)... gotta start somewhere!
Elon is a fookin legend! But hey, as an ISTP myself I know Elon would have to be in a world of pain and isolation due to the friction he creates with the tribe in his own head, unable to truly relate and empathise. Nothing else has caused more pain in my life. It’s a rocky road in a new world of feelings and care for others.
yup my INTP brother a sleeper and also i have close INTP friend with same thing , both like that elon musk , their brains interested in very micro things when they focus on something , anyways they look like dead from outside , if you want to shake their hands and you don't know them , you may think they don't like you existing , the face expression , is dead completely
You don't need to, it's on UA-cam :D and their website. Way cheaper than the watered down lessons taught in school. Can't put these skills on your resume, but it'll sure help you with getting a good job or creating a business
I wake up at 5 am and still am one of the last people to show up to work because I spend the first 4 hours of my day every single day on sleep. Yeah, there is no doubt I prioritize sleep over play.
We are in the exact same boat. Even as an ENFP (Consume-Sleep, Blast last) the one routine I can commit to (sort of) is sleeping early and getting up early. Those hours of alone time in the morning are EVERYTHING to my day. You can clearly tell the difference between how energized I am when I walk into school (nearly late) on a morning where I’m bubbly and happy having had hours to myself... and the difference between me walking in (actually late) on a morning where I woke up exactly ten minutes before leaving the house and embody a trainwreck. The best part is that I’m so bad at shaping my nightly routine to fit a schedule that there’s absolutely no in-between; either I procrastinate work all night and barely sleep or I sleep at 8:00 PM and have a brilliant morning the next day. 😅
I'm quite sure of being an ISTJ, I surely am self centered and controlling, I certainly enjoy sharing what I know (so that would make me a blaster...) I "feel like" I'm a sleeper 'cause I don't really enjoy dealing with the tribe and I certainly took all the most important decisions in my life listening to what I felt was right for me. I can see though that TE is how "exist" in the outside world, I can take leader position with no effort if that's what it takes to get things done the way I see best but the main goal of all that is that I would be home in the least possible time, enjoying my lazy routines by myself and/or with my husband. It baffles me this "jumper" thing, thank you for the input.
interesting because I'm the opposite of "johnny", I'm having a hard time figuring out my type because none of the positive things you say about the types apply to me, while most of the negative things do. I realize it's just my negative view of myself but It's hard to look at it objectively because I don't have enough experiences that I can analyze my decisions from
Hmmm.. Well, when people I Respect aren't requesting my services, I'm "Sleep" (or, "Comsume?") first.. Esp. if I'm interested in something; I'll Observe, then, engage (i.e. "Play") only if I'm still interested. On the flip side, if/when people I Respect are requesting my services, I will usually be unable to say "no," and, react by engaging wholeheartedly (even if/when I feel reluctant). I will absolutely need to "Sleep" (process, reflect, etc..) afterwards.
I feel like I am in Sleep (and it seems like Ni+Fi, according to most definitions of Ni and Fi, but I don't know if that's accurate to your definitions) most of my free time, but I don't think it's my healthy, happy way to be; I feel badly mismatched with the work environment I have to exist in and I frequently just don't have anything left at the end of the day. I actually started getting up early to be able to work on new skills, etc to try to get a career change, because if I wait til after work to study it never happens! .... I'm guessing this doesn't make Sleep a savior? ;)
Yeah the ego factor is a large part of inaccuracies. Thats why i don't like the 16 personalities site. People would rather be the COMMANDER!!!! Than the campaigner.
Malcolm MacInnis Thing about this site is that they use a combo of mbti and big five. People on the site are getting confused as hell, because let’s say you’re an INTJ. On 16p, most of the INTJ description is focused on thinking. It even says that INTJs weakest “mental function” is their “feelings”. It’s like they sort of use the functions a little bit, to predict how a person will be based on answers (to add a little more depth than big five, because that honestly just tells you your answers), but not entirely, and sometimes changing the order of them completely.
Haha that's funny because I actually don't like the commander 😅 and I love the campaigner 😂 but I believe I am an isfp so that might be part of that issue haha
Being pretty sure that you're an actual INFJ sleep but putting it in question in front of people by saying that you might be wrong because you know that people are trying to define themselves like this to be the coolest, and acknowledging that even though you know this fact and you try to avoid it, you may just be eventually defining yourself INFJ sleep because you're trapped like everybody else without realizing it, has to be one of the flexiest flex for a lead sleep. Not telling people anything or minimizing almost voluntarily yourself in front of them and making them think you're just an average dude with nothing special while knowing deep down everything you're capable of and preserving this big silent confidence is one of the greatest feelings (and a hell of an ego-booster as well)
I don't know if I fully understand the animal definitions. I want to say I think I'm lead sleep, but their words make me hesitate on that thought. There's like 3 people at work who commented about me being in a trance like state. Sometimes, it is just staring off into the distance and thinking of nothing and then reeling back into reality probably with someone either talking loudly or someone's gaze. But then there's other moments where I'm just really in my head thinking things through. Or times someone says something, but I didn't fully catch it, so I'm replaying it back in my head. Sort of related distantly, on Gray's channel, she talked about significance, connection, variety and certainty. Of the four, significance and certainty are the ones I really think fit me. I do like variety to a certain extent, but it is through the lens of certainty. The fear would be I'm given a task that I don't know how to handle. I do think I'm good at problem solving, but sometimes, I don't want to risk things being too chaotic. I like having a template for the chaos. Within my job, I like known variety. I like to have a rough understanding of all that is to be expected from me so I can do a good job and mentally prepare for it.
Sounds a bit like my ST (SiTi) sleep. Maybe looking into that might help. (But I don’t know you or what state you were in while writing this, so, good luck figuring it out 😅😉Or get it done the classical way of getting OP typed 😉)
@@just_another_AI I left the class in May or June. Still not typed, but it sounded like Dave would have looked in the ENTP CP/B(S) ballpark after watching a video of mine. Skib is probably correct. sexuals I'm back and forth on. Those animals might be right. Coming to grips with "oh what I thought was planning was more like improvising in the moment" was certainly interesting. An example of my skibness, I'll watch like 5 different anime shows back to back with like no processing in the middle. Or maybe I'll binge watch a show for several hours and not stop. I'll certainly have moments in my head. But more often I'm doing something else while having that Sleep processing session. Again, this is all dirty data/self report. understood.
@@lonelyheart949 Mhm! That's indeed a lot of skibness. But still ST sleep is somewhere in there, even if it's low or last 😉 just reading the pure amount of consume you apparently do at once, makes me tired 😅 - But doing something else while sleep processing is not unusal ( I dO tHaT tOo 😉🙃and I have sleep first 😒) - but sure, if you regularly aren't in your head before acting//doing whatever you do: P>S makes much more sense. (Even in this self report 😉). Why didn't you get your type in the end?
@@just_another_AI Originally, I was using getting tested as the reward for breaking a habit of mine over an extended period of time. But I kept failing and pushing back when I would get tested. Then in the Scripture one day, verses about false teachings stuck out to me, and the only thing in my life that fit the bill of potentially being false teachings was OPS. There were other moments where it was like Dave was encouraging me to change my religion to expand my horizons. I understand where he's coming from, but I'm not about that. I'm still very much a Christian, and I need Jesus every day. Back to P>S, so I have housing inspections at like quarterly intervals. Generally, the night before the inspection, I'm pulling a near all-nighter. I'll have a list of like 40 some Si specific tasks that I need to work on before the inspection takes place. And somehow the night before, I can barely manage to get it all done. Or this week at work/walmart so far I'm averaging 9,178 steps a day. I have a lot of energy, and I go to bed pretty late. (not sure if any of these are good examples/self report of actual animals, but whatever)
@@lonelyheart949 This is going to be a long answer 😅🙈 Mhm, I think it’s quite difficult to break through habits and change them into healthier ones 😌 On paper connecting the outcome of a habit change with a big reward might be a good idea, I’ve done so multiple times too, but the problem arises if you keep on failing at it and then you won’t get a reward but a punishment (in repeatedly not getting a reward), especially if it’s connected with negative self talk! That solidifies the habit and can spiral you into a negative loop. 🥺 Maybe it’s better not to connect big rewards with habit changes … 💭 (idk, I really have to think about it more) Mhm, even if it comes from a good intent, it makes total sense that you would push back. Especially, if you’re locked in on it/your belief/your faith 😉🤗 And I’m sorry for you being triggered by your sensory-intuition-axis 🥺 … Mhm. I hope you can come to terms with it all 😌🤗 Maybe my contrasting examples might help. They are unfortunately my default way of doing things 😕🤷♀😅 (For clarification (😅🙈): I was typed as FF-Si/Ti-SC/P(B), so a weird ISFJ 😆) The moment I saw you answered I was like: “no! Not now!” 😅 And didn’t interact with the notification. Then a day later: I read it & instantly thought: “mhm, I need to think about that” 😅😉But I didn’t write you either. I wrote some paragraphs down, so I won’t forget them in the real answer to you, but that’s all. Then time flew by and … Even though I did think about it, some sentences didn’t find endings, therefore I couldn’t send it all 😅🙈 once I had it ready I still couldn’t send it, ”no, no, let’s wait a bit longer. I don’t like these words here. I could change them later. I need to think about it a bit longer”🙄 I had to push myself quite a bit to get it done and post it 😉 And you in contrast answered very fast (at least by my standards 😅) … Then there’s the way you wrote … that you had direct contact to Dave 🤯I’ve never sent an email or anything to them before 😅 I really (!) don’t want to bother them! 😅🙈 if I have questions I write them down and go (re)watch their videos and/or go to other sources (videos, articles, podcasts) to figure it out by myself. So far, it works fine but obviously really slow! 🙃😉 - just the sheer amount of my sleep before play (and blast!) in the typing process and your super different approach to it shows your P>S!! Me writing you is another example of it. My default is again “read and never interact with”, this rare time I pushed myself to interact. Typing process example: I read all the additional information pages before starting the process of getting typed, so that I wouldn’t need to write them anything! Slowly filled the docs, made the videos and let it sit there … the whole thing took me 3-4 months … but eventually I got it done, without ever interacting with them more than filling out that original document 😉 and obviously the processing afterwards also went without them 😉😅 and obviously I spent roughly a year of being in their class to figure out my type by myself before I even started with the getting-typed-process 🙈😉 I think that are definitely enough S>P (& S>N) examples 😅😉 “[Falling back] when you would get tested”? and not having official type: So you postponed sending the videos? Or was it like this: you sent them everything and then wrote them/Dave to not be typed? (Me having literal S>N observer confusions 😒🙄😅) I think it depends largely on looking at what others are doing // contrasting behaviors (for animals): Anyone can do things last minute. (I do that too 😜😉); Anyone can walk 10.000 steps per day, especially if trained // motivation through work. [I keep on trying to make things more clear with “//“ (as different ways of saying things). My curse, ST curse 😠🙈] Before OPS I thought I had plenty of energy! I’ve trained myself to have more//enough for the stuff I do 😅; But in contrast to others it’s a whole different story. So tracking your fears in contrast to others is effective in figuring out your type as well as your (worst) positions in your tribe 😬 (not pleasant but eye opening 🙃) Being stuck inside my Di perspective and there’s barely anything about others in it! I have to remind myself constantly to get back to your (!) story!!!! This is too easily a me me me story 🙈: I get into trouble with the tribe for IxxJ-ing my way onto them: In an unconscious state demanding them to be more clear (as I won’t understand the NF in the moment, arguing on the ST 🙈, not understanding anything but my version of ST) and demanding Oi // actually planing from them for e.g. family dinners (with a bunch of ExxP//Oe & P>S people) 🙈; Ruining the Fe because I couldn’t stop myself from arguing and/or making jokes at (out of my perspective the best 🤩 but actually the worst) times. (Being NF idiotic) So you wrote about yourself, but who are you in contrast to others? (E.g. coworkers, family, friends, …) Think about that, no need to answer me 😅 [it’s just a way for you to figure it out by yourself 😉] Even if you don’t know “your type” officially to the ST 😉You can (still) grow and so on, if you want that 😉You don’t have to use their theory, their words, if you want to use the Bible it’s your choice 😉😌 I think it//OPS is a lens to make you see yourself through others in contrast to others. It can give you clarity, but you can get clarity in other ways 😉 If you want to try out something, I think, the “error log” as Shan calls it, is a particularly useful tool to see where your baseline is: for when you have freak outs and normal life triggerings. Especially normal life triggerings! From there you can build it up. To answer “Where do I ruin my life & what do I fear?” - (It’s a very ST tool …, I can see how this might not be interesting to you 😉 yet a helpful way to see your thoughts/reactions in reality over time, documented (semi)-consistently.) ~ Hope that helps 🤗
Sleep first sucks! You're always feeling behind and under the gun to get the thing started. You could have started it yesterday or last week or a few hours ago... but you didn't.
Hi, love the vids, very useful. Quick question, is it possible for someone to be a one type but become a jumper, or vice versa? Specifically INTJ, would Te and Fi, be possible to switch? Become self over tribe and vice versa? Thanks, keep up the good work!
I’m not sure if I’m sleep or blast first 🤔. I know you can’t type yourself but it’s kind of hard when no one else around you knows the system you’re using, lol.
My grandfather use to say to me..."You better not be in that back seat playing with your Jigglypuffs, now!" I'm not one to exaggerate, but I rode that trojan horse from Greco Rhodes all the way to Rhodes Road in Pontiac, MI, and I did not have a single problem. But Grandfather, President Henry Ford hasn't been in power since the 1970s.
Hey, quick question! I’m an ENFP lead consume and I’m a writer 😂 and I’m writing about an INFJ character with lead sleep. What’s it like? How do you balance having lead Sleep and yet having Fe so high in your function stack? Basically, is it easy to prioritize self over tribe, or do you get conflicted?
this is so funny because im an INFJ lead sleep and i literally sleep whenever i can and 12hrs of sleep is average for me. don't be this cool i can't get shit done being cool is NOT cool wouldn't recommend
So how do you make lead sleep work for you? Te-Se loops out here making all the money in the world. How do you put the lead sleep energy to work to improve your life?
Te-Se would benefit from intentionally putting in the Sleep hours. Perhaps at the end of each day, withdrawing to a quiet place, shutting everything out, and getting into that Ni-Fi state of identity-building by observing all the things you've been doing, how you feel about them, and where they're heading. One way is to construct an imaginary future-you that you can talk to. It's the NF 'hippie' state, and it's doubly-internal. Picture Tibetan monks, except you're using their method as a tool to gain clarity on your direction and will therefore shape your Play energy expenditure throughout the day. It's meaning.
@@KevinPaterson I get that sleep can recharge people with lead play energy. But when you have *lead sleep* how do you make that work for you? It's clear how people with lead play benefit financially from their lead energy, and then add a dash of introspection to recharge. But when you have lead sleep, is there any life better than just constantly fighting yourself to move?
While I don’t have any specific advice on SeTe Play, Dave has made videos on demon-Play. ua-cam.com/video/RMsZBhUqnQE/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/svQrflQdapc/v-deo.html In their classes they’ve talked about how demon- or missing-Play will always have limited energy expenditure over long periods of time, so it’s about constantly pushing little bits further out into the Tribe chaos, intentionally putting in the hours like a workout. Over time you’ll learn the tricks and shortcuts that you can leverage to make your energy expenditure ultra efficient and effective. It’s usually the case with demons that one tiny investment pays back many times over. It’s about working really smart with the little you have, in comparison to lead-Play types who have no trouble running around doing a whole lot of unsustainable energetic chaos. You can try studying the life of the celebrities they’ve typed as Sleep-first. This includes Steve Jobs (missing Play), George Lucas (Play third), Sam Harris (missing Play), and Eminem (Play third). Hope this helps!
Does anyone know which of these godawful functions results in a person who speaks like an audiobook and writes UA-cam comments that break UA-cam because they’re “too long”? Because I do this, and it drives me insane. Maybe it’s too simplistic of an example to boil it down to one particular function. The MBTI seems to be of the opinion that I am an INTP, but even if that was the case, I’m not sure which of the functions would be responsible for this...truly frustrating tendency of mine. And..now I stop typing. I will probably delete this later ._. We will see how long it lasts.
As a sleep consume ISFJ, I would love to flick a switch that allowed me to just be play first! I have consumed and learnt so much but I really struggle to take action. Need to give less fucks.
Then here i am who didn't knew sleep was supposed to be cool..... My Ni-Fi kicks in all the time, so much that i have social anxiety now. It's not cool, people.
I think I am lead consume but I dont think I am blast last. Is that possible within the coin structures that have been created here? Or am I missing something? Thanks.
Ooooo! I’m curious- ENFP 4 Lead Consume writer here, and I came to this video trying to learn more about an INFJ character I’m writing with lead sleep. So... what’s it like? Especially with balancing Double Sleep and having Fe so high in the stack? Is it always easy to make decisions for self over tribe, or do you get conflicted?
Really?? Like Elon Musk is an INTP?? What the hell?? As an INTP I always admire the execution ability of INTJs cuz they can make the dream come true, I always think that Elon Musk is an INTJ for sure cuz look at his execution power for god sake, but really he is an INTP?? Unbelievable shocking news!
I don't see Si, he is so Ni, too relatably Ni. I don't know where people think he has a dominant Si when he's all in on his Ni all the time, with almost everything he does or intends to set out to get done. I'm pretty sure he's actually either NiFi, NiTi, or TiNi.
If I'm basically listening to these videos all morning long with my head phones on at work working not talking to people, is that sleep? Or just consumption?
It reminds me of their “So you want to be lead Ni huh?” video. It’s all about how Dave is the best and making it confusing for others. Their bias and subjective-ness is getting in the way of things. They claim they’re objective, but they do like to sway things in their direction based on their point-of-view.
To me he is just an INTP I can clealy see the Self against Tribe thing on him, but the organizing...? Not that sure All he has done his entire life has been creative exploration If you watch his Joe Rogan interview you will see him describe his own Ne very clearly Also... ua-cam.com/video/tVUkPSJ-6gc/v-deo.html (?)
Dave slept his way to the top.
Hahahaahahhahaahahahahha
Wait, someone out there thinks lead sleep is cool?
*blushes*
*and accidentally zones out for 20 seconds...*
"I thought you weren't listening".
I actually zoned out LOL. Seems like my RAM is really low.
True lead sleepers, like my husband, don't see themselves as sleepers at all! "I just have a hard time getting my day started," he says.
I wish I was lead blast or play. I’m lead consume-sleep and it’s ruining my life. I sleep 10 hours a day, spend several more hours not doing anything and just consuming information, go out for 2-3 hours and come home exhausted, spend more time just consuming information or video games or other media, then go to sleep again.
Edit: I never said I wasn’t trying to do better. I am. I have a job and go out and socialise and do things. It does exhaust me. I do get anxious and overstimulated and often my mood deteriorates rapidly, but I try get through it anyway.
Yeah, same...
I have big projects but working on them feels like death 😭😭
I need to put my systems in place so I can build something
@Banane Wane not taking responsibility for your actions/ownership of your life, is ruining your life; not being lead sleep/consume
Go exercise instead of blaming your shitty routine on your intrinsic personality
@@redhotsizzle2121 that is not helpful either... You are just putting yourself on the moral high ground and pointing fingers...
@@Hunter-ty6xr nobody asked for your opinion and your judgement is not very welcome either...
Lead sleep intj Ni-Fi here, I use to get so mad when people say I'm selfish, now I accept this side of myself and seek to improve by engaging more with the tribe, which is REALLY REALLY HARD!
Chris U. A natural preference for theory/concrete and concrete/theory is how you'd distinguish the two, one SHOULD use facts to solidify their theories Ni/Se and the other SHOULD use theories to solidify their facts Si/Ne but that's only if they use their axis nicely which is almost no one, so which of these do they have a harder time doing? Also, both are organizers so they want things narrowed down and lined up nicely whether that be ideas or things or people, so which do they get annoyed at when in savior mode? A barrage of unorganized facts (Se would argue That's not realistic!) or unorganized theories and ideas (Ne would argue What if this happens?)
Oooooo I’m a lead consume ENFP Ne/Fi here, and I’m an aspiring writer. One of the characters I’m working with is an Ni-Fi INTJ (Play last as well) and he honestly makes me want to learn so much about the type and how the Sleep/Play axis works, especially when those two functions are lead and last. Either way, I don’t know if you’ll ever see this response, but if you were willing, could you tell me a little bit about what lead sleep Ni-Fi is like and how it impacts your view of people?
@@erika89765 It has been a long time since I paid close attention to the OP community so I can't exactly give you a description using those terms, however, I will try my best to give you an informative responce, though keep in mind that Covid possibly had a major impact on how I interact with people as well. One thing I'd say is that I feel absolutely no social need at all. I interact with people with a purpose in mind. I don't just hang with you for the sake of hanging out with you I do it because I either need to cooperate with you or I want to discuss something that I think you'd have valuable input, or that because it is socially appropriate to have a close company and I think you are a good candidate that I want to be seen with. Another thing is that I enjoy doing pretty much all activities alone than with others. I do something for the intrinsic happiness value it provides, not to socialize. Basically very goal-orientated and quite hermitlike.
@@fangus5076 Ahhhh I’m sleep above play and this resonated a lot, but I adore the way you put it and I’m definitely going to keep it all in mind! Thank you so so SO much for this, it helps so much!! 🥺🤩
The funniest thing about this is how Elon got his big break. Somewhere there's an interview where he talk about the startup he was working in, some supposed killer app, but then the customer was mroe excited about this ancillary piece that processed the payments. That became PayPal. Lead sleep was busy developing the most amazing killer app he could ever imagine, and then the tribe came by and told him what they wanted, and he was like "Really? That's all. Sure, it's right over there. Just send me some money and I'll be over here working on hyperloops and shit."
So true lead sleep are always working on stuff people don't give a damn and something you think is absolute trash is what they crave
@@adielwilson8749 yeah. Everybody else says "Lead Sleep, what are you doing squeezing that lump of coal? What a dirty useless thing to do." And years later Lead Sleep is like "Now it's a diamond, mofos."
@@adielwilson8749 That's wild. I will remember that :)
@@thescowlingschnauzer so trueee
I love these comments so much bahahah
This lead sleep mic drop moment was brought to you by, Dave and Shan 😂😂
That was the best fucking ending ever you guys, I’m still rolling 😂
So is Elon.
Ugh, I'm sleep consume. Resting all day long, all the activity occurs in my brain. so people think I'm lazy but I'm not, I work by thinking problems through in every way possible.
😆 Thinking about how to build houses while people are actually building houses... tomayto, tomahto.
@@grumpyschnauzer I don't think about doing manual labor lol
I'm with you. A friend of mine used to say, "I'm very busy in my mind."
The ending was hilarious 😆 you guys have the best way to mock and praise people all at the same time. I love it ❤️
“so if you think youre cool youre gonna be navigating towards being sleep or infj”
me, an actual Ni-Ti INFJ who knows damn well how not cool it is and i wish i had an easier time being more involved with other people: i know my typing is real because i experience both the good and bad of it and it 100% explains everything but i wish i felt like people would stop doubting it. i really dont care if im “rare” or not and i dont wear it as a badge but its susprising to hear how much my actual self aligns with other people’s mistyping because they want to be me. its really not fun
Oh, I'm an actual INFJ too (8w9 8-4-6, sp/sx). I don't know about these "animals" yet very well, but I just happened to have a vision of an optimal life today and it doesn't require that much of other people. I don't know how close we even are actually in personality, but I know I can spend quite happily my time by just focusing on myself: Eating, studying, watching youtube, training. Occasional social thing can be doable too, but too much of it just ruins my "flow" of life.
@@nightflash5951 infj 8...? what
@@nightflash5951same comment lol. Infj 8 is extremely unlikely
Yes! What you said about cycle is so helpful. I have a public facing, high energy job. I love working the morning shift and going home to crash. I HATE working the evening because I spend ALL DAY waiting to “play”
Sleep crashers!! That’s me! Sleep third. I value it so much, because of how much I need it after Blast Playing all day.
Also the fact that you ended this with a thug life Elon Musk clip just made my whole week. Like... I can’t even express with words how much.
I always thought lead Ni would have been Consume or Sleep dominant. Do you have any good content on what a descriptive version of blast is?
@@John-ih7gp I just got into Objective Personality but lead Ni can only be Blast (Oi + De) or Sleep (Oi + Di) dominant. Blast is when you spread the information you organized to the tribe. I think I might have Blast savior. xD I really thought I was consume first though, even if it was impossible.
@@Lit_NightSky same for me. I also thought I must be consume but after sufficient reflection this just doesn’t make sense at all
Pretty sure I slept my way thru my adolescence, consuming ideas, occasionally blasting in arguments when feeling threatened, and only in my 20s figured out how to play again.
not until my 30s, for me.....and not a moment too soon because I was feeling fed up with this life.
Well done¡
I am an INFJ and I thought I was lead blast Ni-Fe for a long time... it turns out I just wished I was and tried really hard to be because my mom (ENFJ, Fe-Ni) really instilled that ideal in me. I learned I was sleep through the enneagram ironically, a couple of friends suggested to me that I was actually a 5. I was skeptical but open minded, so I spent the next several days reviewing information and data *facepalm for the obvious* and concluded they were most likely correct.
Since then I have been coming to terms with what it means to be lead sleep, I see my problems more clearly but don't necessarily want to deal with them (seems exhausting :p)... gotta start somewhere!
Permanent solutions is best solutions
Elon is a fookin legend! But hey, as an ISTP myself I know Elon would have to be in a world of pain and isolation due to the friction he creates with the tribe in his own head, unable to truly relate and empathise. Nothing else has caused more pain in my life. It’s a rocky road in a new world of feelings and care for others.
Oooooof, as an INFP I feel you...
yup my INTP brother a sleeper and also i have close INTP friend with same thing , both like that elon musk , their brains interested in very micro things when they focus on something , anyways they look like dead from outside , if you want to shake their hands and you don't know them , you may think they don't like you existing , the face expression , is dead completely
I wish I could study this stuff in school. :0
You don't need to, it's on UA-cam :D and their website. Way cheaper than the watered down lessons taught in school.
Can't put these skills on your resume, but it'll sure help you with getting a good job or creating a business
If I could, maybe I wouldn’t hate school sometimes 😂
@@joezupkoofc you can, at the very least as ahobby
I wake up at 5 am and still am one of the last people to show up to work because I spend the first 4 hours of my day every single day on sleep. Yeah, there is no doubt I prioritize sleep over play.
We are in the exact same boat. Even as an ENFP (Consume-Sleep, Blast last) the one routine I can commit to (sort of) is sleeping early and getting up early. Those hours of alone time in the morning are EVERYTHING to my day. You can clearly tell the difference between how energized I am when I walk into school (nearly late) on a morning where I’m bubbly and happy having had hours to myself... and the difference between me walking in (actually late) on a morning where I woke up exactly ten minutes before leaving the house and embody a trainwreck. The best part is that I’m so bad at shaping my nightly routine to fit a schedule that there’s absolutely no in-between; either I procrastinate work all night and barely sleep or I sleep at 8:00 PM and have a brilliant morning the next day. 😅
I'm quite sure of being an ISTJ, I surely am self centered and controlling, I certainly enjoy sharing what I know (so that would make me a blaster...) I "feel like" I'm a sleeper 'cause I don't really enjoy dealing with the tribe and I certainly took all the most important decisions in my life listening to what I felt was right for me. I can see though that TE is how "exist" in the outside world, I can take leader position with no effort if that's what it takes to get things done the way I see best but the main goal of all that is that I would be home in the least possible time, enjoying my lazy routines by myself and/or with my husband. It baffles me this "jumper" thing, thank you for the input.
Yep. I typed myself as sleep first but I'm sleep last. Derp.
@Nick Gurr maybe he got officially typed by Shave
You guys don't talk enough about our biases.
😂😂😂I fuckin love you two. That ending was phenomenal.
Its nice to see shannon blast a bit more
interesting because I'm the opposite of "johnny", I'm having a hard time figuring out my type because none of the positive things you say about the types apply to me, while most of the negative things do. I realize it's just my negative view of myself but It's hard to look at it objectively because I don't have enough experiences that I can analyze my decisions from
So how would a lead sleep ISFP compare to a lead sleep INTJ?
That thumbnail is the best picture of Elon I've ever seen XD
Of course I think I’m both INFJ and lead sleep- so I’m super cool!
(Of course with lead sleep I’m not sure if I’m istp or infj...)
Hmmm..
Well, when people I Respect aren't requesting my services, I'm "Sleep" (or, "Comsume?") first.. Esp. if I'm interested in something; I'll Observe, then, engage (i.e. "Play") only if I'm still interested.
On the flip side, if/when people I Respect are requesting my services, I will usually be unable to say "no," and, react by engaging wholeheartedly (even if/when I feel reluctant). I will absolutely need to "Sleep" (process, reflect, etc..) afterwards.
I sleep 12-15 hours per day & I'm still tired. 😂. Sleep first! 🎉
What you have done with your eye shadow, so beautiful
#1 Launch another car into space 🚀🚘
#2 Nap time 😴😳💤😴😳💤
I feel like I am in Sleep (and it seems like Ni+Fi, according to most definitions of Ni and Fi, but I don't know if that's accurate to your definitions) most of my free time, but I don't think it's my healthy, happy way to be; I feel badly mismatched with the work environment I have to exist in and I frequently just don't have anything left at the end of the day. I actually started getting up early to be able to work on new skills, etc to try to get a career change, because if I wait til after work to study it never happens! .... I'm guessing this doesn't make Sleep a savior? ;)
Blast choleric
Play sanguine
Consume melancholy, can't get no satisfaction
Sleep phlegmatic
Yeah the ego factor is a large part of inaccuracies. Thats why i don't like the 16 personalities site. People would rather be the COMMANDER!!!! Than the campaigner.
Malcolm MacInnis Thing about this site is that they use a combo of mbti and big five. People on the site are getting confused as hell, because let’s say you’re an INTJ. On 16p, most of the INTJ description is focused on thinking. It even says that INTJs weakest “mental function” is their “feelings”. It’s like they sort of use the functions a little bit, to predict how a person will be based on answers (to add a little more depth than big five, because that honestly just tells you your answers), but not entirely, and sometimes changing the order of them completely.
Haha that's funny because I actually don't like the commander 😅 and I love the campaigner 😂 but I believe I am an isfp so that might be part of that issue haha
Sleep/Consume
My friends say if I were an animal I would be a sloth
Being pretty sure that you're an actual INFJ sleep but putting it in question in front of people by saying that you might be wrong because you know that people are trying to define themselves like this to be the coolest, and acknowledging that even though you know this fact and you try to avoid it, you may just be eventually defining yourself INFJ sleep because you're trapped like everybody else without realizing it, has to be one of the flexiest flex for a lead sleep. Not telling people anything or minimizing almost voluntarily yourself in front of them and making them think you're just an average dude with nothing special while knowing deep down everything you're capable of and preserving this big silent confidence is one of the greatest feelings (and a hell of an ego-booster as well)
Lol, Musk is just trolling. Competition? Pshhhh what's that?!
My sister is totally lead sleep, ISFP. :D
It's so sad when you thought you were play before sleep and then exhausted yourself
LMAO that's my favorite clip of Elon.
From a INTJ to a ENTJ, then I found this channel and thought I was a lead play ESTJ to a lead sleep INTP who would of guessed?
I don't know if I fully understand the animal definitions. I want to say I think I'm lead sleep, but their words make me hesitate on that thought. There's like 3 people at work who commented about me being in a trance like state. Sometimes, it is just staring off into the distance and thinking of nothing and then reeling back into reality probably with someone either talking loudly or someone's gaze. But then there's other moments where I'm just really in my head thinking things through. Or times someone says something, but I didn't fully catch it, so I'm replaying it back in my head. Sort of related distantly, on Gray's channel, she talked about significance, connection, variety and certainty. Of the four, significance and certainty are the ones I really think fit me. I do like variety to a certain extent, but it is through the lens of certainty. The fear would be I'm given a task that I don't know how to handle. I do think I'm good at problem solving, but sometimes, I don't want to risk things being too chaotic. I like having a template for the chaos. Within my job, I like known variety. I like to have a rough understanding of all that is to be expected from me so I can do a good job and mentally prepare for it.
Sounds a bit like my ST (SiTi) sleep. Maybe looking into that might help. (But I don’t know you or what state you were in while writing this, so, good luck figuring it out 😅😉Or get it done the classical way of getting OP typed 😉)
@@just_another_AI I left the class in May or June. Still not typed, but it sounded like Dave would have looked in the ENTP CP/B(S) ballpark after watching a video of mine. Skib is probably correct. sexuals I'm back and forth on. Those animals might be right. Coming to grips with "oh what I thought was planning was more like improvising in the moment" was certainly interesting.
An example of my skibness, I'll watch like 5 different anime shows back to back with like no processing in the middle. Or maybe I'll binge watch a show for several hours and not stop. I'll certainly have moments in my head. But more often I'm doing something else while having that Sleep processing session. Again, this is all dirty data/self report. understood.
@@lonelyheart949 Mhm! That's indeed a lot of skibness. But still ST sleep is somewhere in there, even if it's low or last 😉 just reading the pure amount of consume you apparently do at once, makes me tired 😅 - But doing something else while sleep processing is not unusal ( I dO tHaT tOo 😉🙃and I have sleep first 😒) - but sure, if you regularly aren't in your head before acting//doing whatever you do: P>S makes much more sense. (Even in this self report 😉). Why didn't you get your type in the end?
@@just_another_AI Originally, I was using getting tested as the reward for breaking a habit of mine over an extended period of time. But I kept failing and pushing back when I would get tested. Then in the Scripture one day, verses about false teachings stuck out to me, and the only thing in my life that fit the bill of potentially being false teachings was OPS. There were other moments where it was like Dave was encouraging me to change my religion to expand my horizons. I understand where he's coming from, but I'm not about that. I'm still very much a Christian, and I need Jesus every day.
Back to P>S, so I have housing inspections at like quarterly intervals. Generally, the night before the inspection, I'm pulling a near all-nighter. I'll have a list of like 40 some Si specific tasks that I need to work on before the inspection takes place. And somehow the night before, I can barely manage to get it all done. Or this week at work/walmart so far I'm averaging 9,178 steps a day. I have a lot of energy, and I go to bed pretty late. (not sure if any of these are good examples/self report of actual animals, but whatever)
@@lonelyheart949 This is going to be a long answer 😅🙈
Mhm, I think it’s quite difficult to break through habits and change them into healthier ones 😌
On paper connecting the outcome of a habit change with a big reward might be a good idea, I’ve done so multiple times too, but the problem arises if you keep on failing at it and then you won’t get a reward but a punishment (in repeatedly not getting a reward), especially if it’s connected with negative self talk! That solidifies the habit and can spiral you into a negative loop. 🥺 Maybe it’s better not to connect big rewards with habit changes … 💭 (idk, I really have to think about it more)
Mhm, even if it comes from a good intent, it makes total sense that you would push back. Especially, if you’re locked in on it/your belief/your faith 😉🤗 And I’m sorry for you being triggered by your sensory-intuition-axis 🥺 … Mhm. I hope you can come to terms with it all 😌🤗
Maybe my contrasting examples might help. They are unfortunately my default way of doing things 😕🤷♀😅 (For clarification (😅🙈): I was typed as FF-Si/Ti-SC/P(B), so a weird ISFJ 😆)
The moment I saw you answered I was like: “no! Not now!” 😅 And didn’t interact with the notification. Then a day later: I read it & instantly thought: “mhm, I need to think about that” 😅😉But I didn’t write you either. I wrote some paragraphs down, so I won’t forget them in the real answer to you, but that’s all. Then time flew by and … Even though I did think about it, some sentences didn’t find endings, therefore I couldn’t send it all 😅🙈 once I had it ready I still couldn’t send it, ”no, no, let’s wait a bit longer. I don’t like these words here. I could change them later. I need to think about it a bit longer”🙄 I had to push myself quite a bit to get it done and post it 😉
And you in contrast answered very fast (at least by my standards 😅) …
Then there’s the way you wrote … that you had direct contact to Dave 🤯I’ve never sent an email or anything to them before 😅 I really (!) don’t want to bother them! 😅🙈 if I have questions I write them down and go (re)watch their videos and/or go to other sources (videos, articles, podcasts) to figure it out by myself. So far, it works fine but obviously really slow! 🙃😉 - just the sheer amount of my sleep before play (and blast!) in the typing process and your super different approach to it shows your P>S!!
Me writing you is another example of it. My default is again “read and never interact with”, this rare time I pushed myself to interact.
Typing process example:
I read all the additional information pages before starting the process of getting typed, so that I wouldn’t need to write them anything!
Slowly filled the docs, made the videos and let it sit there … the whole thing took me 3-4 months … but eventually I got it done, without ever interacting with them more than filling out that original document 😉 and obviously the processing afterwards also went without them 😉😅 and obviously I spent roughly a year of being in their class to figure out my type by myself before I even started with the getting-typed-process 🙈😉
I think that are definitely enough S>P (& S>N) examples 😅😉
“[Falling back] when you would get tested”? and not having official type: So you postponed sending the videos? Or was it like this: you sent them everything and then wrote them/Dave to not be typed? (Me having literal S>N observer confusions 😒🙄😅)
I think it depends largely on looking at what others are doing // contrasting behaviors (for animals):
Anyone can do things last minute. (I do that too 😜😉); Anyone can walk 10.000 steps per day, especially if trained // motivation through work.
[I keep on trying to make things more clear with “//“ (as different ways of saying things). My curse, ST curse 😠🙈]
Before OPS I thought I had plenty of energy! I’ve trained myself to have more//enough for the stuff I do 😅; But in contrast to others it’s a whole different story.
So tracking your fears in contrast to others is effective in figuring out your type as well as your (worst) positions in your tribe 😬 (not pleasant but eye opening 🙃)
Being stuck inside my Di perspective and there’s barely anything about others in it! I have to remind myself constantly to get back to your (!) story!!!! This is too easily a me me me story 🙈:
I get into trouble with the tribe for IxxJ-ing my way onto them: In an unconscious state demanding them to be more clear (as I won’t understand the NF in the moment, arguing on the ST 🙈, not understanding anything but my version of ST) and demanding Oi // actually planing from them for e.g. family dinners (with a bunch of ExxP//Oe & P>S people) 🙈; Ruining the Fe because I couldn’t stop myself from arguing and/or making jokes at (out of my perspective the best 🤩 but actually the worst) times. (Being NF idiotic)
So you wrote about yourself, but who are you in contrast to others? (E.g. coworkers, family, friends, …) Think about that, no need to answer me 😅 [it’s just a way for you to figure it out by yourself 😉]
Even if you don’t know “your type” officially to the ST 😉You can (still) grow and so on, if you want that 😉You don’t have to use their theory, their words, if you want to use the Bible it’s your choice 😉😌
I think it//OPS is a lens to make you see yourself through others in contrast to others.
It can give you clarity, but you can get clarity in other ways 😉
If you want to try out something, I think, the “error log” as Shan calls it, is a particularly useful tool to see where your baseline is: for when you have freak outs and normal life triggerings. Especially normal life triggerings! From there you can build it up. To answer “Where do I ruin my life & what do I fear?” - (It’s a very ST tool …, I can see how this might not be interesting to you 😉 yet a helpful way to see your thoughts/reactions in reality over time, documented (semi)-consistently.)
~ Hope that helps 🤗
So ironic...I wish I was BP and not BS. I would give anything to have more Play energy.
Pastor Personality play as a savior is a lot lol I would like to downgrade to BS
The ending made me lol
Fuuuuu.... I almost came to terms of not having sleep first until this video....
LMAO
So, Sleep first :)) and Consume second?
@@tuomanviii9653 No clue, seeing my own animals has to be one of the hardest things. All I know for sure is that I have blast last.
Love Elon Musk's, "I'm ending this interview now." What a pimp.
Sleep first sucks! You're always feeling behind and under the gun to get the thing started. You could have started it yesterday or last week or a few hours ago... but you didn't.
Thanks for describing my hell, how do I fix it?
How can you distinguish between being lead sleep then consume vs. lead consume then sleep?
Hi, love the vids, very useful.
Quick question, is it possible for someone to be a one type but become a jumper, or vice versa?
Specifically INTJ, would Te and Fi, be possible to switch? Become self over tribe and vice versa?
Thanks, keep up the good work!
yeah
I’m not sure if I’m sleep or blast first 🤔. I know you can’t type yourself but it’s kind of hard when no one else around you knows the system you’re using, lol.
My grandfather use to say to me..."You better not be in that back seat playing with your Jigglypuffs, now!" I'm not one to exaggerate, but I rode that trojan horse from Greco Rhodes all the way to Rhodes Road in Pontiac, MI, and I did not have a single problem. But Grandfather, President Henry Ford hasn't been in power since the 1970s.
I'm definitely lead sleep NiTi INFJ and it's a nightmare. there's nothing enviable about it lol
Hey, quick question! I’m an ENFP lead consume and I’m a writer 😂 and I’m writing about an INFJ character with lead sleep. What’s it like? How do you balance having lead Sleep and yet having Fe so high in your function stack? Basically, is it easy to prioritize self over tribe, or do you get conflicted?
this is so funny because im an INFJ lead sleep and i literally sleep whenever i can and 12hrs of sleep is average for me. don't be this cool i can't get shit done being cool is NOT cool wouldn't recommend
So how do you make lead sleep work for you? Te-Se loops out here making all the money in the world. How do you put the lead sleep energy to work to improve your life?
Te-Se would benefit from intentionally putting in the Sleep hours. Perhaps at the end of each day, withdrawing to a quiet place, shutting everything out, and getting into that Ni-Fi state of identity-building by observing all the things you've been doing, how you feel about them, and where they're heading. One way is to construct an imaginary future-you that you can talk to.
It's the NF 'hippie' state, and it's doubly-internal. Picture Tibetan monks, except you're using their method as a tool to gain clarity on your direction and will therefore shape your Play energy expenditure throughout the day. It's meaning.
@@KevinPaterson I get that sleep can recharge people with lead play energy. But when you have *lead sleep* how do you make that work for you? It's clear how people with lead play benefit financially from their lead energy, and then add a dash of introspection to recharge. But when you have lead sleep, is there any life better than just constantly fighting yourself to move?
While I don’t have any specific advice on SeTe Play, Dave has made videos on demon-Play.
ua-cam.com/video/RMsZBhUqnQE/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/svQrflQdapc/v-deo.html
In their classes they’ve talked about how demon- or missing-Play will always have limited energy expenditure over long periods of time, so it’s about constantly pushing little bits further out into the Tribe chaos, intentionally putting in the hours like a workout. Over time you’ll learn the tricks and shortcuts that you can leverage to make your energy expenditure ultra efficient and effective. It’s usually the case with demons that one tiny investment pays back many times over.
It’s about working really smart with the little you have, in comparison to lead-Play types who have no trouble running around doing a whole lot of unsustainable energetic chaos.
You can try studying the life of the celebrities they’ve typed as Sleep-first. This includes Steve Jobs (missing Play), George Lucas (Play third), Sam Harris (missing Play), and Eminem (Play third).
Hope this helps!
Elon: /laughs
Reporter: y u laugh?
Elon: hAvE U sEeN ThEiR CaR?
Would you say then that we are never truly one type and just jump around from the different types within our quadras with the same functions
Shan's on fire here.
We used to see exactly what she's talking about here at raves/parties AALLLLLL the time.
5:50 winxi the pooh was the real sleeper all along
This was incredible!!!
Okay but what if I sleep and conserve energy, then I go out and expend a bit of play energy and crash and conserve sleep energy again? :)
You're quad sleep, buddy. It's all over.
Ironic that I’m watching this at 10am while still lying in bed
I‘m a sleep first Ni Fi intj. How do I get more energy? Do I need to use sleep more effectively?
Does anyone know which of these godawful functions results in a person who speaks like an audiobook and writes UA-cam comments that break UA-cam because they’re “too long”? Because I do this, and it drives me insane. Maybe it’s too simplistic of an example to boil it down to one particular function. The MBTI seems to be of the opinion that I am an INTP, but even if that was the case, I’m not sure which of the functions would be responsible for this...truly frustrating tendency of mine. And..now I stop typing. I will probably delete this later ._. We will see how long it lasts.
ISTP types seem to be VERY lead sleep too. I love Elon Musk, btw. Isn't he an INTP?
Nathalia Archer Wait what, I thought he was constantly referred to as the ‘stereotypical INTJ’. Not sure if I agree with it but I do see high Te.
He is a INTP jumper. Si above Ne
Now I'm convinced I have it first.
brother if i’m not lead sleep idk what is.
...People WANT to be lead sleep? Well, that eases my pain a little bit.
I thought if I sleep 9h+ I am sleep first.
As a sleep consume ISFJ, I would love to flick a switch that allowed me to just be play first! I have consumed and learnt so much but I really struggle to take action. Need to give less fucks.
So, I think I might be ISFP but lead play... Is that a possible combination?
Yeah I think that's what I have, I just... play around in play a lot 😂😅
Then here i am who didn't knew sleep was supposed to be cool.....
My Ni-Fi kicks in all the time, so much that i have social anxiety now. It's not cool, people.
How to differentiate which is the 1st saviour (Di as lead or Oi as lead) for lead sleep?
I'd say look for your demon.
Im a selfish jerk, but I’m not sure about the controlling bit for me
You have very nice hair today. You know who you are ;)
Wait, as an INFJ, i am sleep? I dont get it
I'm the nicest person on earth and I'm an ST?!?!
I think I am lead consume but I dont think I am blast last. Is that possible within the coin structures that have been created here? Or am I missing something? Thanks.
Don’t know if you’re still looking for answers, but if you do: yes, it’s possible & look into energy vs info doms.
more lead sleep and sc please
I’m consume/sleep/blast/play and yes someone please help me lol I don’t want this. I just want some energy so people don’t think I’m an asshole
Deep Dive Double Sleep INFJ 4w5, you can stop trying I won.
Ooooo! I’m curious- ENFP 4 Lead Consume writer here, and I came to this video trying to learn more about an INFJ character I’m writing with lead sleep. So... what’s it like? Especially with balancing Double Sleep and having Fe so high in the stack? Is it always easy to make decisions for self over tribe, or do you get conflicted?
i’m a sleepy sleepy boy. zzzz.
So we have two animals only, right? In sequence? Or all four?
What do you mean by "Double observer"?
Double observers as middle(2nd and 3rd) functions. N and S are observers.
I have an ESFJ friend I think is sleep Play consume blast
Really?? Like Elon Musk is an INTP?? What the hell?? As an INTP I always admire the execution ability of INTJs cuz they can make the dream come true, I always think that Elon Musk is an INTJ for sure cuz look at his execution power for god sake, but really he is an INTP?? Unbelievable shocking news!
He doesn’t do the execution though? He has other people doing it for him.
You have fallen under the stereotype that INTP does not execute. Any healthy types can.
I don't see Si, he is so Ni, too relatably Ni. I don't know where people think he has a dominant Si when he's all in on his Ni all the time, with almost everything he does or intends to set out to get done. I'm pretty sure he's actually either NiFi, NiTi, or TiNi.
This guy is a victim of mbti stereotyping.
Do they say that in the video or are you talking about these comments? I would've guessed he was Ni rather than Si.
Wait, lead sleep is "cool"? Like how INFJ is "cool"?
Heck, I'm doubly "cool" for being jumper INFJ with Ni-Ti lead sleep.
Can sleep be reversed to consume??
So is musk an INTP or ISTP? Ti-Si or Ti-Ni?
He is Ti/Si.
why on earth would people think lead sleep is cool?
Right!? I'd far rather be lead Play!
I’m sorry I had to pause for a 😴😴😴 minute.
If I'm basically listening to these videos all morning long with my head phones on at work working not talking to people, is that sleep? Or just consumption?
Consume I think
Would high consume be spending your free time/majority of day (naturally, not forced) literally consuming info?
Apologies if obvious-
@@coslegh58 it's more like not respecting the information enough so you have to ask more questions and take in more and more
So… Dave is lead Sleep? I don’t believe, sorry. He seems more like a Ni/Te INTJ, rather an a Ni/Fi INTJ.
It reminds me of their “So you want to be lead Ni huh?” video. It’s all about how Dave is the best and making it confusing for others. Their bias and subjective-ness is getting in the way of things. They claim they’re objective, but they do like to sway things in their direction based on their point-of-view.
"Try and stop me bro" - hahaha!
I feel that is soo me
I haven't seen that car 😭
Who the hell thinks sleep is cool? It's the worst
To me he is just an INTP
I can clealy see the Self against Tribe thing on him, but the organizing...? Not that sure
All he has done his entire life has been creative exploration
If you watch his Joe Rogan interview you will see him describe his own Ne very clearly
Also... ua-cam.com/video/tVUkPSJ-6gc/v-deo.html (?)
I'm either consume or sleep first but probably C
Not me at all
Then you are probably not sleep DSP. You cannot be an exception to the rule you created.
PLAY fah life. GREAT VIDEO. THANKS! wish it lasted longer.