Dave Coldwell HONEST THOUGHTS On Oleksandr Usyk Vs. Tyson Fury Scoring

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  • @AndrewLockwood889
    @AndrewLockwood889 4 дні тому +16

    I think you could reasonably argue that Fury won 0 rounds but you could definitely give him 2. It was a wide victory for Usyk. It’s only because everyone in the build up wanted Fury to win including the media so people are clutching at straws and looking for ways that Fury won when he definitely didn’t. If people are being honest and actually know what they’re looking at then Usyk won very clearly

    • @Makle84
      @Makle84 4 дні тому

      You seriously have no clue what you are talking about! Have you got a picture of Fury on your wall with dart stuck on it?

    • @AndrewLockwood889
      @AndrewLockwood889 4 дні тому +4

      @ at least I can look at the fight objectively. If you’re that in love with Fury why don’t you try to marry him?

    • @Makle84
      @Makle84 4 дні тому

      @@AndrewLockwood889 Objective? you don't know that if i like both and can score objectively or not. Your comment proves you can't score objectively.

    • @supplementinfowars1577
      @supplementinfowars1577 4 дні тому

      @@AndrewLockwood889 I was about to laugh… but then I saw your pic: you spy boys believe everything the media or an influencer tells you lol

    • @supplementinfowars1577
      @supplementinfowars1577 4 дні тому +2

      @@Makle84 he doesn’t understand boxing, never thrown a punch. Isn’t worth arguing with

  • @theasianjaywalker4455
    @theasianjaywalker4455 21 годину тому +2

    A very good argument could be made for a shutout. 12 rds to 0 for Usyk.
    people think I'm joking but go ahead and watch closely and you can justify Usyk winning any of all 12.
    The ONLY thing that can make people score any rounds to Fury is that in around 3 rounds he did a good job of keeping Usyk back and keep Usyk from getting him in knockdown levels of trouble. He bashed Usyk away,. Some are then saying "I'll give Fury that round!'. but really, by most any judging standards you've give that round to Usyk. Likewise, in the rounds where Fury was coming on - did you give the round to Usyk for the same reasons? "Hey, he kept Fury from getting to him! that's for Usyk!'.
    but anyway, a legit case could be made for a shutout win by Usyk.

  • @kabl00muk94
    @kabl00muk94 4 дні тому +10

    Usyk wont walk away whilst Ukraine is at war,
    Hes said himself that when he was serving in the war, the Ukranian troops asked him to go and fight for Ukraine in the ring.
    Might seem cliche to people like us,
    but that bloke quite literally has the weight of his entire country on his shoulders....
    With that kind of motivation, i dont see him losing 😅

    • @supplementinfowars1577
      @supplementinfowars1577 4 дні тому +2

      @@kabl00muk94 you mean Usyk won’t stop fighting as an excuse not to serve in the military… why isn’t he donating most of his purses to the war effort ?
      You’re being played lol

    • @kabl00muk94
      @kabl00muk94 4 дні тому

      @supplementinfowars1577
      And how do you know what he is or isn't donating/raising.
      I dont know if you're aware,
      but people who want to actually help don't tend to publicise what they donate.... people who shout about the good they do generally do it for attention,
      not to truly help anyone.
      And how exactly have I been played?
      I dont get my information from UA-cam or Facebook cheers 😂

    • @OneBP
      @OneBP 3 дні тому

      @@supplementinfowars1577 how much of his purse did he donate?

    • @freedom4life123
      @freedom4life123 3 дні тому +1

      @@OneBP TELL US ?

    • @freedom4life123
      @freedom4life123 3 дні тому +1

      @@supplementinfowars1577 CLOWN

  • @dubs11
    @dubs11 4 дні тому +20

    Fury won 4 rounds at best.

    • @supplementinfowars1577
      @supplementinfowars1577 4 дні тому

      @@dubs11 stick to soccer lol, he won 5 of the first 6 at worst and 2 of the following 6

    • @freedom4life123
      @freedom4life123 3 дні тому +1

      @@supplementinfowars1577 SEEK HELP

    • @julvadas
      @julvadas 2 дні тому

      @@supplementinfowars1577clown

    • @FightFilms
      @FightFilms 2 дні тому +3

      He did not win a single round.

    • @julvadas
      @julvadas 2 дні тому

      @@supplementinfowars1577 🤡

  • @FightFilms
    @FightFilms 2 дні тому +2

    Not a close fight, hardly a close round. Usyk won every single round, arguably.

  • @Maroon498
    @Maroon498 4 дні тому +7

    Completely disagree.
    Usyk isn’t just a little bit better. He’s miles better than anyone fighting today, you can name who you want.
    He’s on a completely different level to the rest.
    Greatest of all time for me 🕰️
    As for Usyk, I think he fights Dubois or Parker and wins, then retires.
    I can see him becoming three time undisputed, and getting the IBF belt back, what he should never have had to vacate in the first place. Then he can walk away with the complete set.
    I don’t see him dropping back to cruiserweight. Why?
    To fight Jay Opetaia. No point. He would murder him and anyone else in the cruiserweight division.

    • @freedom4life123
      @freedom4life123 3 дні тому +2

      FULLY AGREE

    • @allanthompson2394
      @allanthompson2394 2 дні тому

      He hasn't had the longevity to be greatest of all time, you're talking about at least 10 title defences before that acclaim gets talked about, generation great for sure.

    • @Maroon498
      @Maroon498 2 дні тому

      @@allanthompson2394 Nonsense.
      He doesn’t have the longevity are you crazy?
      He’s been unbeaten for over 20 years now. Is that not long enough?
      He’s also had 350 amateur fights.
      There’s always some random internet person like you that tries to pour cold water over greatness with an agenda.
      Go away.

    • @allanthompson2394
      @allanthompson2394 День тому

      ​@@Maroon498
      Number of titles defences. Hey he's on the list but not the greatest of all time. I'm a usyk fan I champion him to everybody I'm not being negative in my words.
      Louis 25 defences
      Ali 20 defences
      Holmes 20 defences
      That's all I'm saying.

    • @deanlorel
      @deanlorel 14 годин тому

      Not capable of a KO at heavyweight unless you count Dubios quitting on one knee

  • @dannycrotch5188
    @dannycrotch5188 4 дні тому +4

    He never left him alone. And he was worried. Who is he? 😂

  • @wowwowwow185
    @wowwowwow185 3 дні тому +3

    fury a bad sports man he turned into wilder coming up with all the excuses ,he said he only cares about money so why is he worried

  • @bremansuosa-andrews6872
    @bremansuosa-andrews6872 2 дні тому +2

    It’s amazing that till date, in my opinion, Maris Breidis is still the man who came closest to beating Usyk. Who doesn’t struggle against Breidis? Usyk is simply Outstanding 🎉.

  • @wowwowwow185
    @wowwowwow185 3 дні тому +4

    fury beer barrel he was wearing was almost around his chin big beard he still couldn't win

  • @freedom4life123
    @freedom4life123 3 дні тому +3

    Fury complaining that he now has 2 losses on his record, he should think himself lucky because he should have 4 losses by now because he has had the rub of the green in many of his previous fights some in which he lost.

  • @BigStuCorby
    @BigStuCorby 4 дні тому +7

    Robbey 😂😂😂 all you losers posting on social media wont change the result. Total W ⚓️ 's

  • @Alexanderpaal67
    @Alexanderpaal67 3 дні тому +3

    Competetive but not a close fight.
    9-3 to Usyk.
    Keep Fighting 🦾

  • @kristofrookx8452
    @kristofrookx8452 День тому

    Great Break down

  • @garyclay9812
    @garyclay9812 4 дні тому +8

    Fury robbed 😂, get a grip .Schooled by a gap toothed Rabbit ( his words )

    • @neilgordon3365
      @neilgordon3365 3 дні тому

      Don’t forget a ‘middleweight’ 😂

  • @jamiemacdonald6899
    @jamiemacdonald6899 19 годин тому

    Totally agree with Dave. On the night the fight was close enough that the cards felt wide. I rewatched and actively scored it and exactly as Dave said a lot of the close rounds I felt Usyk's consistent work to the body was enough to nick him those rounds. The result was correct and on reflection I dont think the cards were that far off.

  • @lionheartthemuss
    @lionheartthemuss 19 годин тому

    💯 all the pundits were talking about the adjustments Fury would make to win, Usyk managed to almost completely takeaway Fury's best punch in the first fight (uppercut) through his adjustments.

  • @siralexferguson4640
    @siralexferguson4640 23 години тому

    Usyk put on a masterclass P4P King. There’s s levels to this boxing sport.

  • @PrivateGringo
    @PrivateGringo День тому

    The Sky commentary was so biased for Fury I was almost convinced. Incredible.

    • @ThaOrthodoX
      @ThaOrthodoX 21 годину тому

      I noticed that too, especially that Barry or whatever his name is. Tyson hits Usyk's gloves: Ahh that's a lovely jab from Fury

  • @deanlorel
    @deanlorel 14 годин тому

    If only Usyk was capable of a KO at heavyweight to stop all these debates about the scorecards. Guy couldnt even KO Witherspoon.

  • @MatthewThorneywork
    @MatthewThorneywork 2 дні тому

    Both fights were honestly great if we give them their props, we ent seeing a better boxing match, 2 of them, for a long time! I had usyk firs tv fight and won a bet when everyone backed fury and the second fight I thought fury would win it! I know Usyk won both and I’m the biggest Usyk fan but 4 rounds was harsh, not saying fury won the rounds but a lot of the rounds were very even to the eye live! But can’t deny Usyk is the best boxer of my life time, I’m 31 and I ent never seen any boxer who could outbox that man? Anyone?

  • @emucat1
    @emucat1 4 дні тому +1

    In decades to come, this scoring will look political. No way it was that clear a win, if AI is deciding every tap of a smaller guy is worth a body shot of the other then so be it, it's heavyweights finished.

    • @wowwowwow185
      @wowwowwow185 3 дні тому +1

      well if it was heavy weight fury is a super heavy weight ,that was a joke weight that's why they put them in with the heavy weights 4 stone weight ,reach height still couldn't win

    • @RegenerationOffical
      @RegenerationOffical День тому +2

      It was a clear win, you just can’t score boxing

  • @deborahvalentine2893
    @deborahvalentine2893 3 дні тому

    Usyk should drop the belts and retire. Let the next collection of fighters try to unify the belt. Now if Usyk is still training and still hungry then, for the right amount of money, you might see an Usyk vs Itauma, an Usyk vs Fisher or an Usyk vs Anderson

  • @BernhardBernard
    @BernhardBernard 4 дні тому +1

    Tf is up with the bots in this comment section 😅😂... Whata joke

  • @kristofrookx8452
    @kristofrookx8452 День тому

    Being generous u can give fury 1-2-12
    5 was his best round
    Being truely honest
    Fury won 1 round

  • @freedom4life123
    @freedom4life123 3 години тому

    Usyk isnt just a little bit better than fury , come on now there are levels and usyk is on another one compared to fury and you cant be at the top of the tree if theres a man above you, make it make sense, its even now debatable if fury is number 2. These fury slurpers are embarrassing.

  • @keepitreal897
    @keepitreal897 2 дні тому

    Fury was robbed and so was Allen

  • @theghostfacethriller9375
    @theghostfacethriller9375 4 дні тому +1

    One of the more controversial scored fights in history fury Usyk 2

  • @supplementinfowars1577
    @supplementinfowars1577 4 дні тому +5

    At worst for Fury it was a draw. Some of the round scoring were shocking

    • @dogsbollocksgenius9480
      @dogsbollocksgenius9480 4 дні тому +8

      Just shutup, fury got outlanded in 11 of the 12 rounds. It wasn’t even close

    • @Sean-pm3vd
      @Sean-pm3vd 4 дні тому

      ​@dogsbollocksgenius9480 mate that's not what happened fury outlanded usyk in 5 of 1st 6 rounds on compubox the same system we have always used n your now using this AI scoring as the factual punch stats! If you think usyk won 11 out of 12 rounds your pure delusional 😂 n I mean delusional how did the bookies have tyson as red hot favourite after 5 rounds tyson won 1 round? Fair play too usyk he found extra in the 2nd half of fight n I take my hat off tyson was primed and no excuses but your actually making a mockery of people that have watch boxing there whole lives your taking a computer that's never seen either fighter no context! Just be honest with yaself

    • @big-d-banger
      @big-d-banger 4 дні тому +2

      Put your scorecard up so we can laugh at it 🙏

    • @Sean-pm3vd
      @Sean-pm3vd 4 дні тому +1

      @@big-d-banger I had it 4-1 fury through 5 then had usyk 6 7 8 too level it up 4-4 then I thought 9 was proper close so cud go either n 10 was furys and 11 12 usyk so it's either 6-6 or 7-5 usyk! That's my honest card so laugh all ya want but now please tell me yours?

    • @Sean-pm3vd
      @Sean-pm3vd 4 дні тому

      @@big-d-banger what'd your scorecard?

  •  4 дні тому +2

    Fury was robbed

    • @BigStuCorby
      @BigStuCorby 4 дні тому +5

      Keep posting this on social media. You really might change the result 💀

    • @big-d-banger
      @big-d-banger 4 дні тому +6

      Is it just a coincidence that those who believe Fury won never seem to share their scorecards? 🤔

    • @BigStuCorby
      @BigStuCorby 4 дні тому

      @@big-d-banger they are just 🦜 saying the same thing on social media 🙄

    • @wowwowwow185
      @wowwowwow185 3 дні тому +3

      fury was to fat to slow with all his height reach weight he couldn't beat a so called middle weight he would lose even they fight again

    • @freedom4life123
      @freedom4life123 3 дні тому

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