Saw the Quadmvr video & that thing was insane. This was a really good attempt for something just slapped together to see what it's all about. I'm genuinely impressed that it didn't rattle apart faster than it did.
I agree with all of you. I don't think I've seen anyone flying quadcopters soo fast and controlled LOS. He flew one of his EDF quads so far away at times, I could barely see the thing.
@@pdub3rd yeah it's hard to see when it's moving so quickly. If he was flying FPV he'd need his camera tilted like 90°s up when he's flying pitched straight forward.
I think there is a lot of potential left to this kind of build before finally give EDFs a full pass. This thing looked like it just needed a different tune and very likely throttle linearization of some sorts, apart from a more rugged duct-design. I'd really love to know what the limits of that thing are and if it could actually be more efficient and faster than our normal designs :3 I love your crazy experiments!
@@Vousie Shawn's slogan: "I build this weird thing and didn't even tune it yet! Let's see how it flies!" xD I bet the bone drone and this EDF quad could fly so much better :3
3 small screws in each duct could have worked. Could be neat in a foam body. Curious how the pitch of the blades compares to a typical prop blade setup.
Very cool and fun video. I watched Quadmovr rip los with his. How did his hold up to his crazy maneuvers, he use better glue and tape? I'd love to see a follow up video. 👍💖🤓
looks like his frame screws the motors tight into the frame. which is crazy RR didn't just download stl files and use that one... but i get it... gives Shawn a chance to design something crazy and fun.. makes a good video
Did you guys tune it? Is Air mode running? It seemed to respond just like my regular drone does with air mode off. No control unless props are spinning at a minimum! It could totally just be out of tune (or even un-tunable by our normal methods and understanding). Great video. Keep doing this new R&D stuff!! I miss the magnet drone. How about a drone with 4 (or six??) cameras that auto switch based on the direction of flight? Or getting a real FLIR camera onboard , with cheap IR illuminators, to fly 100% in the darkness? I reaaaaly want to come work for Rotor riot one day. You guys have all the fun. KEEP DOING IT FOR US
Cool ideas. I usually don’t tune my projects - so we can have a real, honest first reaction. Maybe it could be helpful in some of the projects to fine tune them. Unfortunately, this drone didn’t last long enough 😂
@@LetsFlyRC I was going to ask how you're supposed to tune something that breaks every time it flies. Love the cool projects and I would love to see a bi-plane drone. So a hexacopter, but two motors are mounted horizontally controlled on a switch. Then when you go to "plane" mode, just have to idle the other 4 motors and let the air rushing over them provide the lift. Maybe would need a gimbal on the camera since you'd want it horizonal for plane mode.
I love your projects Shawn. Ponder this combo of 2 of your projects. A high speed 5in quad with a single switch activated EDF mounted at a ridiculous angle used as a warp drive! Kind of like the previous 5 motor drone you built with a 5th motor being activated by the switch. It might take some wizardry in OpenTX or similar to make the switch give a specific amount of power to the EDF when flipped but I think you could pull it off. I'm thinking of the type of drone built for speed records that has the camera almost looking straight up but even if it wasn't that extreme I think it would be awesome and a little less prone to dying since the one EDF would just be a booster? You can do it dude!
Love this idea, but if we’re going to dig into the wizardry cabinet, I’d say put the EDF-booster throttle on a pot/knob or shoulder-slider so it isn’t an all-or-nothing type thing. Although a fast and furious style NOS button (or fighter jet style red flip cover arm switch) would look pretty rad on a radio…
I think when you chop throttle you lose all the air velocity comming through the ducts. That makes the props much easier to stall. Then when you apply throttle again, the props start to stall until they have good airspeed over them.
Think if this was the pioneering that took place 10 years ago and all fpv was EDFs. Then someone took outrunners and threw 5” tri blades on them we’d all be saying, dang!!! That’s so dangerous! A flying chainsaw!
Been there done that, with the longer ducts (vs shrouds), better off with a tricopter/"trifan" setup with the rear servo arm; if you want speed, at least from my testing. Quads only if you need to hover more.
@@LetsFlyRC "jet engine, any of a class of internal-combustion engines that propel aircraft by means of the rearward discharge of a jet of fluid, usually hot exhaust gases generated by burning fuel with air drawn in from the atmosphere."
A whole bunch of different people are making "bonedrones" now. There are at least a dozen different ones on UA-cam, and I think I saw a frame kit somewhere too.
I was told that it had to do with how long it took the EDF's to spool up/down, as to why they don't make good multirotor powerplants. I suppose when it has to spin ~2-3x as fast to get thrust to the same level as a comparably "thrusty" propeller setup, that any amount of pitch or roll correction would have to spool up or down 3x as much as it would with a regular propeller. With props on 3s with a 2300kv motor 50% throttle would be ~ 14,500rpm, to speed up to 60% throttle for a correction it'd have to speed up by 3000rpm With an EDF on 3s with a 4300kv motor 50% throttle would be ~ 27,090 rpm, to speed up to 60% throttle for a correction it'd have to speed up by 5400 rpm in the same amount of time as the 3000rpm speedup of the propeller setup. The above figures also assume that the prop setup and the edf setup both hover at the same amount, if it takes an extra 10% throttle to hover with EDF's, the corrections will also take an extra 10% on top of the already near double RPM change it takes because of the KV difference.
This is really a great UAV. I am a beginner and currently have the following parts, if I want to make a similar UAV, what other parts do I need? And please suggest which kind of battery is more suitable? 2 sets of EDF 50mm-12(CCW and CW) with QF2611 4000kv (Thrust 0.95 kgf) 4 sets of ESC 40A (2-4S Lipo BEC 5V@3A) 1 set Mini Pix v1.1 (RadioLink) Thanks again for your guidance.
I think that you'd get better results adapting standard quad drone props on a standard quad frame & adding a light duct around them for the increased low-speed thrust. Those EDFs you had in that build seemed like they were designed for EDF RC "jet" models. Think, the USN Osprey variable-tilt propped fixed-wing aircraft. I think that a design something like that to be able to switch from hover-flight to a more fixed-wing flight model might increase the speed & more importantly, the range & time in the air. I've seen some time & distance tests with standard-model quad-copter type drones, vs some time & distance tests for fixed-wing drones, & aside from the fixed-wing types generally being faster, they also flew farther & faster & with a lot longer flight time. The fixed-wing aspect would take at least some of the burden off the energy required simply to keep the drone in the air as the only source of lift for the drone. I've been looking but so far haven't seen anything like that. I'd love to see some sort of hybrid flight model & using FPV. It's an idea that's keeps poking at me. Seems like it might be viable. What do you think? Any takers?
Now use the same motors and props on a standard x quad without the ducts and see how it compares. Although probably won't want to hand launch that one ;)
I wonder how much weight it could carry. There aren't too many 2 inchers that could carry a GoPro but this might even be able to carry a point and shoot.
I think you should lower the size of the motors. That would give your quad less torque, lighter weight and possibly longer life. Then tape and hot glue might be sufficient.
....so, I stopped the video at 7:04 just to say "Fuckin' Drew!" How many others did the same thing? ....... All while I was mid-thought about how you really are becoming more self aware and remembering past hiccups...... Bahahahhaaaa Frigging love you bro, much respect, just pullin' yer chain pal.
Fastest 2 inch currently on the market is 150 miles an hour I believe (edit I was wrong it matches but it does have high blade count it would go faster if it went down to bi blades)
@@LetsFlyRC The each one lizard95’s top speed is 70 mph so i was wrong I saw the video about it a very long time ago but It does have five bladed props is out of the box so would probably be much faster with bi-blade props
Saw the Quadmvr video & that thing was insane. This was a really good attempt for something just slapped together to see what it's all about. I'm genuinely impressed that it didn't rattle apart faster than it did.
You should feature Quadmovr in an episode of Rotor Riot.
He wouldn't ruin his rep like that hahaha.
@@slowentropy4531 😁
QUADMOVR is awesome! That guy makes some insane builds. His ducted fan quad was insane. Also such a great pilot. One of my favorite channels.
Amazing LOS pilot. I wish I had his LOS ability.
@@LetsFlyRC he's a Ninja at LOS for sure.
I agree with all of you. I don't think I've seen anyone flying quadcopters soo fast and controlled LOS. He flew one of his EDF quads so far away at times, I could barely see the thing.
@@pdub3rd yeah it's hard to see when it's moving so quickly. If he was flying FPV he'd need his camera tilted like 90°s up when he's flying pitched straight forward.
Can always count on Rotor Riot to come up with something interesting, it might not be practical, but it kept me entertained 😂
Really cool episode! Was fun to watch it. Keep doing content like that! 👌
Lmao y'all got pdevx fully geared up even with a ugly hat 😂😂😂😂 damnnnnn
drew is a Quad destroyer, never let his hands lay on them again.. hahah
Experimentation makes flight interesting, and this marvelous content encourages trying new things! Excellent :)
I have to say Shawn makes rotor riot without him you guys would be lost 🙏🙏🙏🙏🤘🤘🤘🤘❤️❤️❤️❤️you da man Shawn so underrated bro🙏🙏🙏🙏
ayyyeee quadmover made it to rotor riot xD
most edfs also have a thrust tube that makes the exhaust lmore laminar so get a short pringles can on the bottom and see if that helps :D
Siiick, yes quadmvr!
I think there is a lot of potential left to this kind of build before finally give EDFs a full pass. This thing looked like it just needed a different tune and very likely throttle linearization of some sorts, apart from a more rugged duct-design. I'd really love to know what the limits of that thing are and if it could actually be more efficient and faster than our normal designs :3
I love your crazy experiments!
Yeah. Definitely looked like there were quite a few tuning issues. Looks like they may have just used Betaflight's default 5" tune 🙄
@@Vousie Shawn's slogan: "I build this weird thing and didn't even tune it yet! Let's see how it flies!" xD
I bet the bone drone and this EDF quad could fly so much better :3
3 small screws in each duct could have worked. Could be neat in a foam body.
Curious how the pitch of the blades compares to a typical prop blade setup.
Love Sean’s creations
Looking forward to seeing Jet Drone V2. Concept seems strong. Tuning might need some work. It's the construction that failed.
Me again. I would like to see you guys do bando bashing with the bone-drone.
QuadMovr's OG
Shawn keeping it spicy 🔥
Very cool Shawn keep up the great work. Im jealous you get to do this for a living.
Stay up😎🎮🤙🏻
Fun project even though it didn't work out.
Omg you did it
If quadmovr isn't referenced or brought up once in this video y'all deserve a kick to the crotch.
He was mentioned.. try watching the video
That was a fun project - “EDFs are bad - don’t do it!” 😂
Did you even tune it at all?
Appreciate your work Shawn!
A really bad idea with fascinating results. Pretty cool 😎
Drew: Yells "whoa!" for no reason as drone flys by at moderate speed. LOL.
So sick, been thinking about this idea and wanting to do it lol. Awesome video
Shawn makes the craziest rigs this was pretty awesome
if developed professionally and made stable this drone could become really powerful
could carry some serious weight to
Very cool and fun video. I watched Quadmovr rip los with his. How did his hold up to his crazy maneuvers, he use better glue and tape? I'd love to see a follow up video. 👍💖🤓
looks like his frame screws the motors tight into the frame. which is crazy RR didn't just download stl files and use that one... but i get it... gives Shawn a chance to design something crazy and fun.. makes a good video
Did you guys tune it? Is Air mode running? It seemed to respond just like my regular drone does with air mode off. No control unless props are spinning at a minimum! It could totally just be out of tune (or even un-tunable by our normal methods and understanding). Great video. Keep doing this new R&D stuff!! I miss the magnet drone. How about a drone with 4 (or six??) cameras that auto switch based on the direction of flight? Or getting a real FLIR camera onboard , with cheap IR illuminators, to fly 100% in the darkness?
I reaaaaly want to come work for Rotor riot one day. You guys have all the fun. KEEP DOING IT FOR US
@UCPLsvmuB2f-wmWqd8UnqvfA If knowing a little was fun, why is knowing more not more fun? Chill with your party pooping. You should be more creative
Cool ideas. I usually don’t tune my projects - so we can have a real, honest first reaction. Maybe it could be helpful in some of the projects to fine tune them. Unfortunately, this drone didn’t last long enough 😂
@@LetsFlyRC I was going to ask how you're supposed to tune something that breaks every time it flies.
Love the cool projects and I would love to see a bi-plane drone. So a hexacopter, but two motors are mounted horizontally controlled on a switch. Then when you go to "plane" mode, just have to idle the other 4 motors and let the air rushing over them provide the lift. Maybe would need a gimbal on the camera since you'd want it horizonal for plane mode.
30 seconds after tossing drone on the floor “ I think it might have durability issues” 🤣
I read somewhere that more fan blades create more torque, are quieter, but slow down speed. You need versions with less blades.
I love your projects Shawn. Ponder this combo of 2 of your projects. A high speed 5in quad with a single switch activated EDF mounted at a ridiculous angle used as a warp drive! Kind of like the previous 5 motor drone you built with a 5th motor being activated by the switch. It might take some wizardry in OpenTX or similar to make the switch give a specific amount of power to the EDF when flipped but I think you could pull it off. I'm thinking of the type of drone built for speed records that has the camera almost looking straight up but even if it wasn't that extreme I think it would be awesome and a little less prone to dying since the one EDF would just be a booster? You can do it dude!
Love this idea, but if we’re going to dig into the wizardry cabinet, I’d say put the EDF-booster throttle on a pot/knob or shoulder-slider so it isn’t an all-or-nothing type thing. Although a fast and furious style NOS button (or fighter jet style red flip cover arm switch) would look pretty rad on a radio…
@@abertheham Brilliant! I've never used them for anything but I know OpenTX is very capable of such tasks. That would be sick AF!
I think when you chop throttle you lose all the air velocity comming through the ducts. That makes the props much easier to stall. Then when you apply throttle again, the props start to stall until they have good airspeed over them.
wow what is next a fighter drone ?????
or a drone tank ?
The basic rule is. Don’t let drew fly first🤔 lol. 👍🏼👍🏼
^^^ 😂 😂 😂
Really loving the new content guys, keep it up
I love the EDF drone concept! make another one plz plz plz! :)
I thought bone drone was actually the frame made before you guys did that video. But I may be incorrect on that one
Nice I love the shape of the fpv
Nice video so funny. You are genius :)
Print a frame with mounting tabs and use a strong ca to mount the fans.
thank you for this video, I love it 🤩🎥🕹🔥
Wait till you see what I've got in the works!!! 🔥🔥🔥
I worship on the altar of QUADMOVR - Marcus…the god of LOS.
I thought it was going to work fine. The ducts looks like the same as my Racewhoop but mine are 11/2 in
Everyone should learn from Charpu on how to tape to tape a drone together.
What about to build a EDF camera drone instead of fpv?
Think if this was the pioneering that took place 10 years ago and all fpv was EDFs. Then someone took outrunners and threw 5” tri blades on them we’d all be saying, dang!!! That’s so dangerous! A flying chainsaw!
Been there done that, with the longer ducts (vs shrouds), better off with a tricopter/"trifan" setup with the rear servo arm; if you want speed, at least from my testing. Quads only if you need to hover more.
Not a jet. It’s just a ducted fan.
Next time we will add fire 🔥 🔥 🔥. 😂
@@LetsFlyRC "jet engine, any of a class of internal-combustion engines that propel aircraft by means of the rearward discharge of a jet of fluid, usually hot exhaust gases generated by burning fuel with air drawn in from the atmosphere."
@@jasonpressler7111 generally you need that nozzle pressure out the exhaust to be called a jet. Another indicator of a jet engine, its turbine driven.
A whole bunch of different people are making "bonedrones" now. There are at least a dozen different ones on UA-cam, and I think I saw a frame kit somewhere too.
It's pretty amazing that modern flight controllers can fly with almost any prop and motor combo.
I was told that it had to do with how long it took the EDF's to spool up/down, as to why they don't make good multirotor powerplants. I suppose when it has to spin ~2-3x as fast to get thrust to the same level as a comparably "thrusty" propeller setup, that any amount of pitch or roll correction would have to spool up or down 3x as much as it would with a regular propeller.
With props on 3s with a 2300kv motor 50% throttle would be ~ 14,500rpm, to speed up to 60% throttle for a correction it'd have to speed up by 3000rpm
With an EDF on 3s with a 4300kv motor 50% throttle would be ~ 27,090 rpm, to speed up to 60% throttle for a correction it'd have to speed up by 5400 rpm in the same amount of time as the 3000rpm speedup of the propeller setup.
The above figures also assume that the prop setup and the edf setup both hover at the same amount, if it takes an extra 10% throttle to hover with EDF's, the corrections will also take an extra 10% on top of the already near double RPM change it takes because of the KV difference.
This is really a great UAV.
I am a beginner and currently have the following parts, if I want to make a similar UAV, what other parts do I need? And please suggest which kind of battery is more suitable?
2 sets of EDF 50mm-12(CCW and CW) with QF2611 4000kv (Thrust 0.95 kgf)
4 sets of ESC 40A (2-4S Lipo BEC 5V@3A)
1 set Mini Pix v1.1 (RadioLink)
Thanks again for your guidance.
Very nice videos guys :)
I think that you'd get better results adapting standard quad drone props on a standard quad frame & adding a light duct around them for the increased low-speed thrust. Those EDFs you had in that build seemed like they were designed for EDF RC "jet" models. Think, the USN Osprey variable-tilt propped fixed-wing aircraft. I think that a design something like that to be able to switch from hover-flight to a more fixed-wing flight model might increase the speed & more importantly, the range & time in the air. I've seen some time & distance tests with standard-model quad-copter type drones, vs some time & distance tests for fixed-wing drones, & aside from the fixed-wing types generally being faster, they also flew farther & faster & with a lot longer flight time. The fixed-wing aspect would take at least some of the burden off the energy required simply to keep the drone in the air as the only source of lift for the drone. I've been looking but so far haven't seen anything like that. I'd love to see some sort of hybrid flight model & using FPV. It's an idea that's keeps poking at me. Seems like it might be viable. What do you think? Any takers?
Awesome video 💯
Amazing location 😊
I want that thing that whould be my carrer :D for FPV startin
It's a great idea.
Get out of my head! I just saw these edf duct kits yesterday on aliexpress and was going to build one of these
This might be the begining of a new drone type lol
Top amigo!!! Drone top
When do you plan on reviewing the Jetson One?
Dang
Now use the same motors and props on a standard x quad without the ducts and see how it compares.
Although probably won't want to hand launch that one ;)
I wonder how much weight it could carry. There aren't too many 2 inchers that could carry a GoPro but this might even be able to carry a point and shoot.
Maybe if you could 3D print the frame with the ducts and just add the motors with the props to it it be less chances to it to come apart
I'd call it the seizure drone, because of the oscillations when you turn up the throttle.
Stop letting Drew yeet your stuff like that before you even fly lol
I think you should lower the size of the motors. That would give your quad less torque, lighter weight and possibly longer life. Then tape and hot glue might be sufficient.
Nothing looks like a giant tiny whoop.
....so, I stopped the video at 7:04 just to say "Fuckin' Drew!" How many others did the same thing? ....... All while I was mid-thought about how you really are becoming more self aware and remembering past hiccups...... Bahahahhaaaa Frigging love you bro, much respect, just pullin' yer chain pal.
Do you have a video that shows how to build this jet drone oh really interested in building one
A jet is defined as "a rapid stream of liquid or gas forced out of a small opening." So you definitely have an electric jet drone on your hands.
Are you guys going to be selling one of these EDF quadcopters by any chance because I would love to buy one only if drib makes it electric drib fan
Nice 🤩🤩🤩
edf drone ❤️
How do you guys find a field to fly at? How did you find this field? I’ve been looking for a new field to fly at near my city.
Look up parks and soccer fields. Best time to fly is weekdays while kids are in school
can you brief the battery time for this jet
drone. Like how much time it can fly
4:18 “you would have to try so hard to get your fingers in there” 8:27 fingers deep
I bought the bone drone but the aio fc I bought doesn't work I gotta wait for another... I love the goofy things you guys try
What CNC router are you using to cut your carbon? I’m using a Shaper Origin, and its pretty good for prototyping, but I’m ready to upgrade.
I custom built it from a project on openbuilds. I believe it is the c - beam
@@LetsFlyRC Thanks...
Excuse me bro, let me ask where did you get the propeller?
Where can u get one?
If you liked this one, you should defenitely try the racewhoop from freezilion !
interesting video
Motors are too close together
Yes. It needs to be wider to compensate for the G forces. 👍
It needed some thrust linear
Fastest 2 inch currently on the market is 150 miles an hour I believe (edit I was wrong it matches but it does have high blade count it would go faster if it went down to bi blades)
Wow 🤩
@@LetsFlyRC The each one lizard95’s top speed is 70 mph so i was wrong I saw the video about it a very long time ago but It does have five bladed props is out of the box so would probably be much faster with bi-blade props
I think it is possible though to make one that hits 150 It might need to be an octocopter though
I think what u see when u cut throttle and power up again ist the equivalent to propwash. Lets call it Jetwash!
Quadmvr for the win.. besides this constant excited childish chatter that really gets on your nerves, rr can't think of anything new :(
It's just a quirky giant whoop.
Why not add after burners?
So jetwhoop? Maybe they aren't as bad due to the ESC braking.
Jets held together with chewing gum and duct tape.
Now I want to see a turbine engine quad