This is basically an example of someone just importing EU4 scenes into EU5 without taking advantage of any of the benefits afforded by lumen and nanite.
@Ray tracingNIN "UE4.27 is the same as UE5", "UE5 you can't use nanite for a game because it requires the unreal server to process the scene", "Lumen in real time go at 5fps per second, and the computer overheats"🤣 either you barely know how to use the engine or you are trolling on purpose lol
@Ray tracingNIN Why are you lying? Like, even if your computer merely spazzed out, assuming that’s just how the performance is supposed to be is plain irrational. I can’t possibly think of what sort of bias might have led you to think that was true… are you joking? Am I getting r/woooshed?
@Ray tracingNIN bruh, i just upgraded my ue4 level to ue5, turned on lumen, and my fps didnt change. There is something wrong with your PC, or you just dont know how to do performance profiling
@@justindavis2711 I don’t know how to do performance profiling but I can do things in ue easily while ue4.26 is constant shadercompiling or freezing. Maybe it’s because my hardware is fresh(but not top of the line sadly)
The UE5 looks off to me. I'm playing around with it myself and there's a distinct lack of shadowing in some cases where it would absolutely give some. I don't think the scenes were set up correctly or there's some setting not set properly
Yeah I was just thinking some of these comparisons look like different style choices rather than an improvement on the software. And if they’re rendered using the same settings then it looks it got worse if the scene was intended to be dark. Or maybe the improvements call for a different approach to make the same type of scenes as before.
These issues are most likely due to level geometry. Look up "Lumen Surface Cache". Lumen prefers scenes to be made out of many simple meshes, such as individual walls, instead of entire rooms.
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Ultimately it's about quality, couldn't care less if it's realtime if my game is gonna look like trash. But this is just a flawed comparison, ue5 is definitely more capable than ue4 and this video fails to show that.
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Everything achievable in UE5 is achievable UE4. Lumen doesn't mean it will be nicer, it's just mean it will be dynamic (and in most case, lumen doesn't succeed good as baked light... so it's even worse. BUT, this is dynamic).
@@Aherys how is dynamic lighting worse? Baked lighting is only good for scenes where there is no change in lighting and every object is static. The only way to achieve dynamic lighting in UE4 is raytracing Also, lumen looks better than baked lighting, just look at other videos on youtube or try it by yourself
A) Did you read my comment ? B) I'm actually a dev in video game industry... so... yeah, i know pretty well how it work, this is literally my job. C) This is absolutely not true at all. Dynamic lightning will never, NEVER be as good as baked, in the best case, it can be "close to it", to understand this, you need to understand how lumen work, and how Lightmass (the baked) work too. For video you see with a better lumen looking than baked, it's just cause those people doesn't know how to configure baked scene properly.
@@Aherys figured i'd try at least and ask but currently trying to work on my first game by myself and baking is the hardest concept for me specially with the walls and floors always tending to have light bleed and blotchy shadows, any sort of tips or general rules you guys go by when it comes to good lighy bakes?
To be honest alot of ue5s features are performance and efficiency based, for example nanite so you don't have to re-totopologise and can forget about mesh LODs, lumen is so that you don't have to spend years baking lighting shadow's light maps etc, and also allows for better indirect lighting and real-time high quality global illumination. If you had an unreal engine 4 project with dynamic lighting done in the same way as ue5 it would probably look drastically different, same with assets, ue4 would probably just not be able to perform on the same level of hardware with a scene designed with nanite. I think we'll see a difference when we see UE5 scenes be converted to UE4 for comparisons
you forget that lumen is made for normal gpu. and raytracing needs rtx. thats way cheaper and more accessible. rtx is better atm. especially with dlss2. but nearly no one can use that. so lumen will be better in my opinion.
The goal of lumen is about being good enough. It can be run much more cheaply than Ray Tracing and compatible with older hardware. Besides, this is early release we're seeing here.
@@UltimateAlgorithm I agree, it is def less costly than ray-tracing on performance and it is still def in early development, however it does not run on older hardware. Nanite can run on older hardware and can scale down but Lumen Epic has stated can only run on next-gen consoles and PC’s.
@@chadtheall682 why? the main point was that people wont need new rtx cards for that. so youre point is nonsense. and its way faster then old methods and way better. people can render scenes in minutes instead of hours. so how is this more expensive?
@@Knightfire66 well its not MY point, it’s Epics point. One of the main guys in charge of creating Lumen stated on a deep dive into Lumen technology on their over 2-hour long UA-cam Lumen video that Lumen will only work on hardware at PS5/XSX and equivalent and upwards and not older hardware. So if you think that’s nonsense you can take that up with Epic jerk…
For the people that's complaining about the comparison...I'm an unreal 5 user myself and there's no big difference between Lumen and non lumen scenes, except if you have self illuminated dynamic objects.
@@artv4692 They are saying U4 looks better, and it does. Because U5 new features won't make that much of difference in those scenes. If you import some stuff from U4 to U5 will look like that anyway, using the same parameters.
I feel like instead of just importing the scenes into ue5 to compare you should take advantage of it's features and implement that into the comparison because it doesn't really showcase the main point of lumen.
Lumen makes almost no visual difference in outdoor large scale scenes. Its the sky and atmosphere that does that. And he didnt change the sky from the ue4 upgrade
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Good exemple that, mostly, UE 5 is NOT about making games that look better than UE4. Specially not better than UE4+RT. It's about looking about the same, but with less efforts ( because more unified lighting ) and compatible with more hardware ( because no need for RT hardware).
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The darks are way too dark in UE5. Especially in that crashed spaceship or whatever scene with the snow blowing in. I guarantee you those walls wouldn’t be black. There’d be some light showing them.
The luminance from ambient is overblown in UE5 compared to prebaked lightmaps in UE4. This leads to saturation wash out. That said there seems to be greater dynamic range which is a good thing. But some of those real time light rays are just cringe on resolution. Check timestamp 0:36 of the bedside light illumination on the wall. There's horrible stepping with UE5.
There's something off with the lighting as the areas under bed/sofa are just as bright as areas not occluded by any object. Where all this light is coming from in a night scene?
@@tobiasmyers3505 agreed. I really love the interface of UE5. I love that they can tuck all the windows on the sides and just click to open them back up.
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Truth is we have been playing all the copypasta UE4 game clones for the past years and same situation awaits UE5, which in fact isn't really that mindblowing graphically anymore. Some aspect like volumetric clouds are done better on other custom engines, just compare UE5/4 volumetrics to for instance Assassins Creed or yet better RDR2
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You are wrong, Lumen and nanite are massive deals and it's going to have a huge impact on future games so it deserves the UE5 name for those two massive features alone
somehow i still prefer ue4.. its not the realism for me, just the feel/vibes that ue4 pulls out of the scene.. any dev know what tools that are absolutely necessary for current workflow thats only available on 5 and missing on 4? i am thinking of stepping down to 4.27 because my system hard crashes on 5.. im ok not having pcg or the procedural texture stuffs..im also ok not having the big map streaming, level streaming works for me... i have turned down lumen.. would never use nanite's current implementation.. anything else i would miss if i step down to 4.27?
UE4 is sort of hyper realistic... Even without raytracing and proper GI it remains realistic, with stuff looking almost unnaturally crisp and clear... Now UE5 is realistic.. and more versatile especially with interiors... But the issue is that the lighting is a bit fuzzy.. it seems a bit more blurry... And it looses that hyperreal crispness.. you can see that with the fence gate where the UE5 version looks a bit more fuzzy... But that can probably be fixed with better hardware and higher samples
My only complaint is. When seeing that blacktop parking lot at the end. 1:49 It looks way to shiney then what it would look like in real life. Basically to glossy and to reflective.
I don't understand why all games developers are not using unreal engine. Some games developers use it. Rockstar should definitely get this. This makes sales
Why would they? There's no UE game at this point in time that can go toe to toe with RDR 2 in terms of visuals let alone in terms of scope. Besides, I'm glad not every game has that very distinct UE look.
We all see the Amazing Unreal Engien 5 Demo. Pls make the same Demo in Unreal Engien 4, but i think its not possible. To make old Games/ Demos convert to Unreal Engien 5 is nothing changing, you cant make Games looks better only because Change the Engien without use any new functions and possiblitys.
this video is probably the worst representation ever.. the shadows looked so bland and bad while they are so good in UE5, remake the same scene in UE5 and then show the difference
it's honestly kinda disappointing because lumen is just a tool to speed up productivity, nanite can't be used with foliage nor trees, and chaos destruction requires a complex setup that will still cost more performance than it should. I'm not even sure I want to upgrade to ue5 atm. maybe next year idk
@@sonario6489 the retargetting of animations is also a step back from ue4, yea we can have any character set up to use any animation but setting up the ik rig is just a hazzle right now
@@justindavis2711 I think they made UE5 for film and cinema more than for games. I'm staying in 4.26 for at least 2 more years until UE5 is actually ready for game production.
I always knew whatever EPIC is claiming about UE5 is capable of is too good to be true and I PERSONALLY think (may be wrong though) , UE5 isn't gonna make games look much better but it may reduce the hardware requirement for achieving the more or less same scene, which will be beneficial for low and mid end gamers but won't change anything for high end ones. It will obviously make things easy for devs and reduce development time but won't change much for players.
Whatever they claimed turns out to be true, just look at recent demos. You are judging it by looking at almost a year old video of beta version of lumen
@@-_wanderer I have seen those demos. They look great but those visuals are achievable even with UE4 or other engines at a higher resource cost . What am saying is UE5 makes things a lot easier for Devs but doesn't do that much for gamers.
@@wibblewobble1934 exactly, nor would many of the examples of the environment breaking and the global illumination changing. Almost all games use baked lighting and very few games use actual pathtracing in their rtx examples
@@shadowproductions969 Idk about that, but they certainly show whadya call 'em; "invisible light sources" or "virtual lights" or something. There are many clips of moving these light sources to flatter or sculpt the light of subjects just as cinematographers do. Even if the goal is realism, there is a lot of artifice.
not is a real comparision, in this comparision, UE4 has BAKED lightning while UE5 is in REAL TIME LIGHTNING, some people can think than UE5 is the same than UE4, but is a error, the lightning system of unreal engine 4 no has this quality in real time, sorry for my bad english xd
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This isn't a good representation of UE5's power over UE4. UE4 looks better in almost every instance in this video. Many graphical artifacts appear in UE5's examples here.
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This is basically an example of someone just importing EU4 scenes into EU5 without taking advantage of any of the benefits afforded by lumen and nanite.
@Ray tracingNIN "UE4.27 is the same as UE5", "UE5 you can't use nanite for a game because it requires the unreal server to process the scene", "Lumen in real time go at 5fps per second, and the computer overheats"🤣 either you barely know how to use the engine or you are trolling on purpose lol
@Ray tracingNIN Why are you lying? Like, even if your computer merely spazzed out, assuming that’s just how the performance is supposed to be is plain irrational. I can’t possibly think of what sort of bias might have led you to think that was true… are you joking? Am I getting r/woooshed?
@Ray tracingNIN bruh, i just upgraded my ue4 level to ue5, turned on lumen, and my fps didnt change. There is something wrong with your PC, or you just dont know how to do performance profiling
@@justindavis2711 I don’t know how to do performance profiling but I can do things in ue easily while ue4.26 is constant shadercompiling or freezing. Maybe it’s because my hardware is fresh(but not top of the line sadly)
@Ray tracingNIN sounds like a driver problem, because I haven't heard of anyone else having those issues
The UE5 looks off to me. I'm playing around with it myself and there's a distinct lack of shadowing in some cases where it would absolutely give some. I don't think the scenes were set up correctly or there's some setting not set properly
Yeah I was just thinking some of these comparisons look like different style choices rather than an improvement on the software. And if they’re rendered using the same settings then it looks it got worse if the scene was intended to be dark. Or maybe the improvements call for a different approach to make the same type of scenes as before.
yes same here
Looks like there’s almost no ambient occlusion
There is a bedroom scene here where the shadows disappear under the bed in UE5. Which is odd.
These issues are most likely due to level geometry. Look up "Lumen Surface Cache". Lumen prefers scenes to be made out of many simple meshes, such as individual walls, instead of entire rooms.
It's not about the quality - it's about the fact that lumen is producing this in real time without baking.
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+ 360° stepped floors / storey / level / tier buildings (constructions, architectures, construction methods, designs, concepts, 2D, 3D, models);
+ 3D 360° environment (surround), volume, space (room) audio / sound;
+ 360° environment (surround), volume, room screens (displays), monitors, TVs;
+ Screens (displays), monitors, TVs without backlighting;
+ many things with magnets like Micro-OLED;
+ 360° screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ curved screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ 360° reflections and light digital: "ENB", "Ray-Tracing" / "RTX", “Lumen illumination” and whatever renaming!
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+ dark backgrounds / themes / skins for windows, browser windows, internet sites, programs / apps, etc.;
+ fanless, passive cooling; +thermal pads; + Water cooling (unwanted, because it conducts electricity) and liquid cooling (wanted) for the computer and personal computer / PC application area!
- I am not the inventor of refrigeration by nitrogen, instant- / blast-freeze / -freezing;
+ 360° open, transparent PC cases;
+ 360° Sphere, Ball as a Wheel (2D, 3D) “Omniwheel” / “Omni-Wheel”;
+ From a standing position / standing a 360° turn / rotation in any direction on all objects, including logically and of course vehicles, transporters, robots of all kinds;
+ Flying objects, planes that take off and land vertically, for example by hot air, example fighter jet;
+ and much more!
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@@damysticalone87 heh okay.
Ultimately it's about quality, couldn't care less if it's realtime if my game is gonna look like trash. But this is just a flawed comparison, ue5 is definitely more capable than ue4 and this video fails to show that.
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@@leukk_ "couldn't care less if it's realtime if my game is gonna look like trash" you know video games are real time, right?
Did you use the same exact settings because a lot of these scenes look drastically different and still achievable in UE4
Everything achievable in UE5 is achievable UE4.
Lumen doesn't mean it will be nicer, it's just mean it will be dynamic (and in most case, lumen doesn't succeed good as baked light... so it's even worse. BUT, this is dynamic).
@@Aherys how is dynamic lighting worse?
Baked lighting is only good for scenes where there is no change in lighting and every object is static.
The only way to achieve dynamic lighting in UE4 is raytracing
Also, lumen looks better than baked lighting, just look at other videos on youtube or try it by yourself
A) Did you read my comment ?
B) I'm actually a dev in video game industry... so... yeah, i know pretty well how it work, this is literally my job.
C) This is absolutely not true at all.
Dynamic lightning will never, NEVER be as good as baked, in the best case, it can be "close to it", to understand this, you need to understand how lumen work, and how Lightmass (the baked) work too.
For video you see with a better lumen looking than baked, it's just cause those people doesn't know how to configure baked scene properly.
@@Aherys figured i'd try at least and ask but currently trying to work on my first game by myself and baking is the hardest concept for me specially with the walls and floors always tending to have light bleed and blotchy shadows, any sort of tips or general rules you guys go by when it comes to good lighy bakes?
@@Aherys if you were an actual dev you would know Unreal Engine 5 is 100x better in every aspect.
Doesn't show drastic difference. Maybe you left some parameters for lumen unchecked? Appreciate the work nice edit.
To be honest alot of ue5s features are performance and efficiency based, for example nanite so you don't have to re-totopologise and can forget about mesh LODs, lumen is so that you don't have to spend years baking lighting shadow's light maps etc, and also allows for better indirect lighting and real-time high quality global illumination.
If you had an unreal engine 4 project with dynamic lighting done in the same way as ue5 it would probably look drastically different, same with assets, ue4 would probably just not be able to perform on the same level of hardware with a scene designed with nanite.
I think we'll see a difference when we see UE5 scenes be converted to UE4 for comparisons
UE4 is using rtx features only present on nvidia GPU and UE5 doesn't. If we don't see a difference it's actually a very good thing ;)
you forget that lumen is made for normal gpu. and raytracing needs rtx. thats way cheaper and more accessible. rtx is better atm. especially with dlss2. but nearly no one can use that. so lumen will be better in my opinion.
@@cybermad64 “rtx features”
You mean ray tracing?
UE5 looked kinda unsharp and blurry in this comparison
The goal of lumen is about being good enough. It can be run much more cheaply than Ray Tracing and compatible with older hardware. Besides, this is early release we're seeing here.
@@UltimateAlgorithm I agree, it is def less costly than ray-tracing on performance and it is still def in early development, however it does not run on older hardware. Nanite can run on older hardware and can scale down but Lumen Epic has stated can only run on next-gen consoles and PC’s.
@@chadtheall682 even though lumen is cheaper than RT, it's still more expensive than conventional methods.
@@chadtheall682 why? the main point was that people wont need new rtx cards for that. so youre point is nonsense. and its way faster then old methods and way better. people can render scenes in minutes instead of hours. so how is this more expensive?
@@Knightfire66 well its not MY point, it’s Epics point. One of the main guys in charge of creating Lumen stated on a deep dive into Lumen technology on their over 2-hour long UA-cam Lumen video that Lumen will only work on hardware at PS5/XSX and equivalent and upwards and not older hardware. So if you think that’s nonsense you can take that up with Epic jerk…
For the people that's complaining about the comparison...I'm an unreal 5 user myself and there's no big difference between Lumen and non lumen scenes, except if you have self illuminated dynamic objects.
That's not what they're complaining about...
@@artv4692 They are saying U4 looks better, and it does. Because U5 new features won't make that much of difference in those scenes.
If you import some stuff from U4 to U5 will look like that anyway, using the same parameters.
00:37 yay, we can finally see jagged edges of light on the wall. wtf
I was thinking the same thing. Lol. UE5 is superior, but this is the worst representation I've ever seen.
I feel like instead of just importing the scenes into ue5 to compare you should take advantage of it's features and implement that into the comparison because it doesn't really showcase the main point of lumen.
Just based off these examples I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who made the video forgot to even enable Lumen when porting over to ue5
Lumen makes almost no visual difference in outdoor large scale scenes. Its the sky and atmosphere that does that. And he didnt change the sky from the ue4 upgrade
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+ open, transparent 360° sunlight Buildings, construction methods, architectures, designs, concepts;
+ Step-floor / -storey / -level / -tier pyramid (e.g., as a residential building);
+ 360° stepped floors / storey / level / tier buildings (constructions, architectures, construction methods, designs, concepts, 2D, 3D, models);
+ 3D 360° environment (surround), volume, space (room) audio / sound;
+ 360° environment (surround), volume, room screens (displays), monitors, TVs;
+ Screens (displays), monitors, TVs without backlighting;
+ many things with magnets like Micro-OLED;
+ 360° screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ curved screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ 360° reflections and light digital: "ENB", "Ray-Tracing" / "RTX", “Lumen illumination” and whatever renaming!
+ Short Throw Projectors;
+ dark backgrounds / themes / skins for windows, browser windows, internet sites, programs / apps, etc.;
+ fanless, passive cooling; +thermal pads; + Water cooling (unwanted, because it conducts electricity) and liquid cooling (wanted) for the computer and personal computer / PC application area!
- I am not the inventor of refrigeration by nitrogen, instant- / blast-freeze / -freezing;
+ 360° open, transparent PC cases;
+ 360° Sphere, Ball as a Wheel (2D, 3D) “Omniwheel” / “Omni-Wheel”;
+ From a standing position / standing a 360° turn / rotation in any direction on all objects, including logically and of course vehicles, transporters, robots of all kinds;
+ Flying objects, planes that take off and land vertically, for example by hot air, example fighter jet;
+ and much more!
+ I'm not the inventor of VR, but of "AR", AR glass, AR glasses;
It was only later that I realized that they derived a lot from my ideas (=inventions), a lot came about that has to do with color and light, through me as an initiator, booster / catalyst, e.g., through my idea, invention of the Screens without a backlight and without a built-in / integrated backlight! It is no coincidence that only afterwards, after I initiated this, they built, built and are building those inventions thanks to my impetus! They sell my ideas (inventions) as theirs! They are not the inventors, but the first technical implementers of my ideas (=inventions)! And those are not the inventors, but the thieves of my ideas (=inventions) initiated by me, because those act as if I wasn't the first hand and the first domino, and they take unjustly, undeservedly a lot of money, stolen money (blood money), recognitions, awards, certificates, fame and history, they boast of my laurels / merits!
Before me they all were stucked at LCD, Plasma TV and less lights!
I have made a deep impact in evolution!
Those manipulate, sabotage, falsify, distort images, paintings, digitized and real, animations, videos, films, also composed of many images, even the publication dates of mine, others and their posts, images, videos, etc.!
You have to understand, those can distort everything that can be heard and seen in real life and digitally!
They block and delete my pictures, videos, posts, comments, comments-answers and answers!
They are poisoning and murdering the world with fake diseases, treatments, "vaccinations"/ "vaccines" and injections by syringe!
Now they also make it out as if they haven't been ripping off, cheating, enslaving, murdering other countries with the money currency, money exchange by even -99% for more than two centuries! And as if I'm not the first to disclose that and more! As if I didn't disclose and initiate > 1.00 Ruble (₽) = 1.00 asian Yen (¥) = 1.00 Euro (€) = 1.00 Dollar ($) = any (X) any country < years ago!
Each and every non-civilian you hear and see on TV is involved! You can hear and see their > blue blue blue
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Good exemple that, mostly, UE 5 is NOT about making games that look better than UE4. Specially not better than UE4+RT.
It's about looking about the same, but with less efforts ( because more unified lighting ) and compatible with more hardware ( because no need for RT hardware).
Those read, listen to / bugged / eavesdrop / overheared / tapped, watched, spied, copied and steal many of my ideas (=inventions) initiated by me:
+ open, transparent 360° sunlight Buildings, construction methods, architectures, designs, concepts;
+ Step-floor / -storey / -level / -tier pyramid (e.g., as a residential building);
+ 360° stepped floors / storey / level / tier buildings (constructions, architectures, construction methods, designs, concepts, 2D, 3D, models);
+ 3D 360° environment (surround), volume, space (room) audio / sound;
+ 360° environment (surround), volume, room screens (displays), monitors, TVs;
+ Screens (displays), monitors, TVs without backlighting;
+ many things with magnets like Micro-OLED;
+ 360° screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ curved screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ 360° reflections and light digital: "ENB", "Ray-Tracing" / "RTX", “Lumen illumination” and whatever renaming!
+ Short Throw Projectors;
+ dark backgrounds / themes / skins for windows, browser windows, internet sites, programs / apps, etc.;
+ fanless, passive cooling; +thermal pads; + Water cooling (unwanted, because it conducts electricity) and liquid cooling (wanted) for the computer and personal computer / PC application area!
- I am not the inventor of refrigeration by nitrogen, instant- / blast-freeze / -freezing;
+ 360° open, transparent PC cases;
+ 360° Sphere, Ball as a Wheel (2D, 3D) “Omniwheel” / “Omni-Wheel”;
+ From a standing position / standing a 360° turn / rotation in any direction on all objects, including logically and of course vehicles, transporters, robots of all kinds;
+ Flying objects, planes that take off and land vertically, for example by hot air, example fighter jet;
+ and much more!
+ I'm not the inventor of VR, but of "AR", AR glass, AR glasses;
It was only later that I realized that they derived a lot from my ideas (=inventions), a lot came about that has to do with color and light, through me as an initiator, booster / catalyst, e.g., through my idea, invention of the Screens without a backlight and without a built-in / integrated backlight! It is no coincidence that only afterwards, after I initiated this, they built, built and are building those inventions thanks to my impetus! They sell my ideas (inventions) as theirs! They are not the inventors, but the first technical implementers of my ideas (=inventions)! And those are not the inventors, but the thieves of my ideas (=inventions) initiated by me, because those act as if I wasn't the first hand and the first domino, and they take unjustly, undeservedly a lot of money, stolen money (blood money), recognitions, awards, certificates, fame and history, they boast of my laurels / merits!
Before me they all were stucked at LCD, Plasma TV and less lights!
I have made a deep impact in evolution!
Those manipulate, sabotage, falsify, distort images, paintings, digitized and real, animations, videos, films, also composed of many images, even the publication dates of mine, others and their posts, images, videos, etc.!
You have to understand, those can distort everything that can be heard and seen in real life and digitally!
They block and delete my pictures, videos, posts, comments, comments-answers and answers!
They are poisoning and murdering the world with fake diseases, treatments, "vaccinations"/ "vaccines" and injections by syringe!
Now they also make it out as if they haven't been ripping off, cheating, enslaving, murdering other countries with the money currency, money exchange by even -99% for more than two centuries! And as if I'm not the first to disclose that and more! As if I didn't disclose and initiate > 1.00 Ruble (₽) = 1.00 asian Yen (¥) = 1.00 Euro (€) = 1.00 Dollar ($) = any (X) any country < years ago!
Each and every non-civilian you hear and see on TV is involved! You can hear and see their > blue blue blue
I beg to differ!
@@damysticalone87 how much effort did you put into a repply
Read my profile for the real trueth!
Thanks! I also think UE5 looks better than UE4
I can’t tell drastic difference actually but nice work.
0:34 look at the lighting on the wall, it actually looks worse on UE5
yes! much worse....I was like WTF!.
i hate how everyone here has no sense about gamedev...
разница обывателю еле заметна, если только свето-коррекция изменилась.
мыло, 4 лучше
В некоторых кадрах, как будто даже наооборот деградация
Согласен. Сейчас научились отлично делать имитацию глобального освещения, плюс SSR и получается так, что на статике отличий вообще не заметно.
В худшую сторону
Idk. UE4 has a sense of more realism going off these comparisons in a lot of shots
The goal of lumen is not to look better, it's to have better performance. Lumen is incredibly easier to run than standard RT.
Its because the lightings are a part of the texture
@@gametoast8545 What do you mean? I'm a novice.
@@tobiasmyers3505 I am saying UE4 lighting is berrer cuz the light is texture
That’s because those scenes were built for ue4, not for ue5
The darks are way too dark in UE5. Especially in that crashed spaceship or whatever scene with the snow blowing in. I guarantee you those walls wouldn’t be black. There’d be some light showing them.
Sounds like u went in that ship
Darkness is always the detail hiding trick also like in movies the CGI scenes ;)
The luminance from ambient is overblown in UE5 compared to prebaked lightmaps in UE4. This leads to saturation wash out. That said there seems to be greater dynamic range which is a good thing. But some of those real time light rays are just cringe on resolution. Check timestamp 0:36 of the bedside light illumination on the wall. There's horrible stepping with UE5.
In almost all cases U4 looks better then U5.
yeah indeed u5 looks all to bright
There's something off with the lighting as the areas under bed/sofa are just as bright as areas not occluded by any object. Where all this light is coming from in a night scene?
yeah dude who made this has zero clue
to be honest, half of them I couldnt notice a difference. its not as huge as the change from UE 3 to 4
Don't use this video as reference, they didn't set it up correctly at all
nah he didnt set things straight.....
UE5 it's too damn bright. I like that gritty darker look of 4.
Surely that is extremely controllable in the software. May be more HDR in one or the other. Idk.
@@tobiasmyers3505 agreed. I really love the interface of UE5. I love that they can tuck all the windows on the sides and just click to open them back up.
lightmaps-
Замечательно, всё притянули к реализму.. Реальность скучна, 4 намного лучше
Lets invade Ukraine
0:40 - чувствуешь реализм света? И я не чувствую
Something is off UE4 looks more artistic but UE5 looks wrong!!
Because scenes were built in/for ue4, not in/for ue5
always hated these how about show the SAME imagin in both sides? As it is its hard to notice a resonible change / impreovement if any at times ...
Are you turning off light maps when switching to lumen?
Those read, listen to / bugged / eavesdrop / overheared / tapped, watched, spied, copied and steal many of my ideas (=inventions) initiated by me:
+ open, transparent 360° sunlight Buildings, construction methods, architectures, designs, concepts;
+ Step-floor / -storey / -level / -tier pyramid (e.g., as a residential building);
+ 360° stepped floors / storey / level / tier buildings (constructions, architectures, construction methods, designs, concepts, 2D, 3D, models);
+ 3D 360° environment (surround), volume, space (room) audio / sound;
+ 360° environment (surround), volume, room screens (displays), monitors, TVs;
+ Screens (displays), monitors, TVs without backlighting;
+ many things with magnets like Micro-OLED;
+ 360° screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ curved screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ 360° reflections and light digital: "ENB", "Ray-Tracing" / "RTX", “Lumen illumination” and whatever renaming!
+ Short Throw Projectors;
+ dark backgrounds / themes / skins for windows, browser windows, internet sites, programs / apps, etc.;
+ fanless, passive cooling; +thermal pads; + Water cooling (unwanted, because it conducts electricity) and liquid cooling (wanted) for the computer and personal computer / PC application area!
- I am not the inventor of refrigeration by nitrogen, instant- / blast-freeze / -freezing;
+ 360° open, transparent PC cases;
+ 360° Sphere, Ball as a Wheel (2D, 3D) “Omniwheel” / “Omni-Wheel”;
+ From a standing position / standing a 360° turn / rotation in any direction on all objects, including logically and of course vehicles, transporters, robots of all kinds;
+ Flying objects, planes that take off and land vertically, for example by hot air, example fighter jet;
+ and much more!
+ I'm not the inventor of VR, but of "AR", AR glass, AR glasses;
It was only later that I realized that they derived a lot from my ideas (=inventions), a lot came about that has to do with color and light, through me as an initiator, booster / catalyst, e.g., through my idea, invention of the Screens without a backlight and without a built-in / integrated backlight! It is no coincidence that only afterwards, after I initiated this, they built, built and are building those inventions thanks to my impetus! They sell my ideas (inventions) as theirs! They are not the inventors, but the first technical implementers of my ideas (=inventions)! And those are not the inventors, but the thieves of my ideas (=inventions) initiated by me, because those act as if I wasn't the first hand and the first domino, and they take unjustly, undeservedly a lot of money, stolen money (blood money), recognitions, awards, certificates, fame and history, they boast of my laurels / merits!
Before me they all were stucked at LCD, Plasma TV and less lights!
I have made a deep impact in evolution!
Those manipulate, sabotage, falsify, distort images, paintings, digitized and real, animations, videos, films, also composed of many images, even the publication dates of mine, others and their posts, images, videos, etc.!
You have to understand, those can distort everything that can be heard and seen in real life and digitally!
They block and delete my pictures, videos, posts, comments, comments-answers and answers!
They are poisoning and murdering the world with fake diseases, treatments, "vaccinations"/ "vaccines" and injections by syringe!
Now they also make it out as if they haven't been ripping off, cheating, enslaving, murdering other countries with the money currency, money exchange by even -99% for more than two centuries! And as if I'm not the first to disclose that and more! As if I didn't disclose and initiate > 1.00 Ruble (₽) = 1.00 asian Yen (¥) = 1.00 Euro (€) = 1.00 Dollar ($) = any (X) any country < years ago!
Each and every non-civilian you hear and see on TV is involved! You can hear and see their > blue blue blue
0:51 looks like dr disrespect gas station when he starts the stream
..it´s me .. or did you notice that in some scenes.. UE4 looks better than UE5 ?.....
I'd rather give more money to Jensen instead of sweeney. RTX for life
Truth is we have been playing all the copypasta UE4 game clones for the past years and same situation awaits UE5, which in fact isn't really that mindblowing graphically anymore. Some aspect like volumetric clouds are done better on other custom engines, just compare UE5/4 volumetrics to for instance Assassins Creed or yet better RDR2
Those read, listen to / bugged / eavesdrop / overheared / tapped, watched, spied, copied and steal many of my ideas (=inventions) initiated by me:
+ open, transparent 360° sunlight Buildings, construction methods, architectures, designs, concepts;
+ Step-floor / -storey / -level / -tier pyramid (e.g., as a residential building);
+ 360° stepped floors / storey / level / tier buildings (constructions, architectures, construction methods, designs, concepts, 2D, 3D, models);
+ 3D 360° environment (surround), volume, space (room) audio / sound;
+ 360° environment (surround), volume, room screens (displays), monitors, TVs;
+ Screens (displays), monitors, TVs without backlighting;
+ many things with magnets like Micro-OLED;
+ 360° screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ curved screens, monitors, TVs, panels, glass;
+ 360° reflections and light digital: "ENB", "Ray-Tracing" / "RTX", “Lumen illumination” and whatever renaming!
+ Short Throw Projectors;
+ dark backgrounds / themes / skins for windows, browser windows, internet sites, programs / apps, etc.;
+ fanless, passive cooling; +thermal pads; + Water cooling (unwanted, because it conducts electricity) and liquid cooling (wanted) for the computer and personal computer / PC application area!
- I am not the inventor of refrigeration by nitrogen, instant- / blast-freeze / -freezing;
+ 360° open, transparent PC cases;
+ 360° Sphere, Ball as a Wheel (2D, 3D) “Omniwheel” / “Omni-Wheel”;
+ From a standing position / standing a 360° turn / rotation in any direction on all objects, including logically and of course vehicles, transporters, robots of all kinds;
+ Flying objects, planes that take off and land vertically, for example by hot air, example fighter jet;
+ and much more!
+ I'm not the inventor of VR, but of "AR", AR glass, AR glasses;
It was only later that I realized that they derived a lot from my ideas (=inventions), a lot came about that has to do with color and light, through me as an initiator, booster / catalyst, e.g., through my idea, invention of the Screens without a backlight and without a built-in / integrated backlight! It is no coincidence that only afterwards, after I initiated this, they built, built and are building those inventions thanks to my impetus! They sell my ideas (inventions) as theirs! They are not the inventors, but the first technical implementers of my ideas (=inventions)! And those are not the inventors, but the thieves of my ideas (=inventions) initiated by me, because those act as if I wasn't the first hand and the first domino, and they take unjustly, undeservedly a lot of money, stolen money (blood money), recognitions, awards, certificates, fame and history, they boast of my laurels / merits!
Before me they all were stucked at LCD, Plasma TV and less lights!
I have made a deep impact in evolution!
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Maybe I'm wrong but to me that looks more like UE4.1
You are wrong, Lumen and nanite are massive deals and it's going to have a huge impact on future games so it deserves the UE5 name for those two massive features alone
В каком месте, если 5 тут хуже выглядит, тогда уж 3.5
0:50 somedays you can find drdisrespect pulling up with his Lamborghini at this petrol station.
Ha!
Lumen and ray tracing are not separate. Lumen uses ray tracing for global illumination and reflections.
Imagine gta5 would have been created with this
So basically UE5 is just UE4 with less contrast. I'm literally going to have to crank up the contrast on my monitor to make UE5 look right.
somehow i still prefer ue4.. its not the realism for me, just the feel/vibes that ue4 pulls out of the scene..
any dev know what tools that are absolutely necessary for current workflow thats only available on 5 and missing on 4? i am thinking of stepping down to 4.27 because my system hard crashes on 5..
im ok not having pcg or the procedural texture stuffs..im also ok not having the big map streaming, level streaming works for me... i have turned down lumen.. would never use nanite's current implementation.. anything else i would miss if i step down to 4.27?
my brother is christ, how are you not uploading this in 4k
Тот же самый движок UE4, только добавленный RTX и улучшили освещение и назвали это UE5.
UE4 is sort of hyper realistic... Even without raytracing and proper GI it remains realistic, with stuff looking almost unnaturally crisp and clear...
Now UE5 is realistic.. and more versatile especially with interiors... But the issue is that the lighting is a bit fuzzy.. it seems a bit more blurry... And it looses that hyperreal crispness.. you can see that with the fence gate where the UE5 version looks a bit more fuzzy... But that can probably be fixed with better hardware and higher samples
UE5 is with specs
And ue4 rtx was without specs😂😂
Ноль отличий. А знаете почему, потому что пятый это тупо четвёртый под RTX.
I don't know Rick, this should have been called unreal 4.5 because it's not a big jump like it was from unreal 3 to unreal 4
Smart people love our programmers. With them we would be living in the Stone Age
Without?
Looks like a ubisoft 'pre-launch/post-launch' comparison to me
Why is UE4 more realistic than UE5?
UE5's advantages are more technological, and less visual.
If this was an add for UE5 graphics though, I'd stick to 4 for the rest of my life.
Perfect example of not knowing how to actually take advantage of Unreal Engine 5 features.
Can this be done by one person?
What should I do?
My only complaint is. When seeing that blacktop parking lot at the end. 1:49 It looks way to shiney then what it would look like in real life. Basically to glossy and to reflective.
Am I the only one who think that UE4 looks better than UE5 in this comparison?
only difference is lighting? I thought the point of unreal 5 is the complex geometry loading trick
EU 7 can be potentially used to make films without the actual actors
I don't understand why all games developers are not using unreal engine. Some games developers use it. Rockstar should definitely get this. This makes sales
Why would they? There's no UE game at this point in time that can go toe to toe with RDR 2 in terms of visuals let alone in terms of scope. Besides, I'm glad not every game has that very distinct UE look.
We all see the Amazing Unreal Engien 5 Demo. Pls make the same Demo in Unreal Engien 4, but i think its not possible. To make old Games/ Demos convert to Unreal Engien 5 is nothing changing, you cant make Games looks better only because Change the Engien without use any new functions and possiblitys.
why are you using EU4 assests in EU5?
This video is so low in quality i don't see any pertinent detail
I may need to get my eyes checked, cause I don't see a god damn difference (except for one scene where fog was added).
this video is probably the worst representation ever.. the shadows looked so bland and bad while they are so good in UE5, remake the same scene in UE5 and then show the difference
что-то мне 4й понравился больше!
is it me or is the UE 4 better ?
i feel like they just added brightness
0:50 resident evil 2 PTSD
it's honestly kinda disappointing because lumen is just a tool to speed up productivity, nanite can't be used with foliage nor trees, and chaos destruction requires a complex setup that will still cost more performance than it should. I'm not even sure I want to upgrade to ue5 atm. maybe next year idk
uE5's lumen scene also requires objects to be separated..... which pretty much kills geometry nodes modeling
@@sonario6489 the retargetting of animations is also a step back from ue4, yea we can have any character set up to use any animation but setting up the ik rig is just a hazzle right now
it pisses me off that they deleted Apex Destruction. I cant just migrate my game now. I have to do heaps of work
@@justindavis2711 I think they made UE5 for film and cinema more than for games. I'm staying in 4.26 for at least 2 more years until UE5 is actually ready for game production.
So the difference between the two engines are the contrasts?
UE5 doesn't help if the underlying shading and models are crap.
Now imagine this with a goofy ass character walking around
why do i feel like unreal engine 4 feels more realistic than ue5 🤔
I came for the differences and saw non...
Because this is worst comparasion ever and not showing full advantage of UE5
Вчера играл в NFS Underground, графика огонь, геймплей идеальный. А сейчас современным играм даже графика не помогает быть просто хорошими.
the scenes in this video for unreal engine 4 and 5 tends kind of swap, sometimes lighter and sometimes darker.
I always knew whatever EPIC is claiming about UE5 is capable of is too good to be true and I PERSONALLY think (may be wrong though) , UE5 isn't gonna make games look much better but it may reduce the hardware requirement for achieving the more or less same scene, which will be beneficial for low and mid end gamers but won't change anything for high end ones.
It will obviously make things easy for devs and reduce development time but won't change much for players.
Whatever they claimed turns out to be true, just look at recent demos.
You are judging it by looking at almost a year old video of beta version of lumen
@@-_wanderer I have seen those demos. They look great but those visuals are achievable even with UE4 or other engines at a higher resource cost .
What am saying is UE5 makes things a lot easier for Devs but doesn't do that much for gamers.
@@axkeosnakeo6464 The Matrix Awakens city with that level of fine detail all on screen at once would not be possible in UE4 because of nanite
@@wibblewobble1934 exactly, nor would many of the examples of the environment breaking and the global illumination changing. Almost all games use baked lighting and very few games use actual pathtracing in their rtx examples
@@shadowproductions969 Idk about that, but they certainly show whadya call 'em; "invisible light sources" or "virtual lights" or something. There are many clips of moving these light sources to flatter or sculpt the light of subjects just as cinematographers do. Even if the goal is realism, there is a lot of artifice.
Most of them look exactly the same
So... UE5 is darker than UE4?
2010 called wanting it's pixels back.
такое чувство что картинка просто более контрастная но не более...
A diferença é que um tem mais brilho que o outro
no
reflections, particles, saturation, processing and many other things, changes a lot
UE4 is way more natural. UE5 is not improving the light, just adds a light-like-cloud to the environment. Crap
Did you build your lighting? It looks off
The literal point of ue5s lumen is you don't have to build lighting anymore
I don't speak with UE4 anymore, only with UE5 😃😃
5... More clarity isn't necessarily better.
not is a real comparision, in this comparision, UE4 has BAKED lightning while UE5 is in REAL TIME LIGHTNING, some people can think than UE5 is the same than UE4, but is a error, the lightning system of unreal engine 4 no has this quality in real time, sorry for my bad english xd
Thumbnail be like :
Less fog | More fog
The same, but with RTX UR5 is better or Unity... .
This video is so lame because these examples look almost identical
comparison like that and you upload it in 1080p sad
The only difference I noticed is Contrast and Saturation.
This doesn’t show what lumen is capable of this just a copy and paste
Yeah that ain't UE5 that's 4 just brightened up a bit what a clickbait
This comparison sucks. UE4 looks way better because the scenes were made with UE4.
IT'D HELP IF THIS WASN'T IN 1080P wtf.
jesus, don't most people who give a fuck have at least 1440p.
leave 1080p in the garbage where it belongs.
What is the name of the music?
The ghrafical is never use all ue5 features..it is all done with ue4 and enhenced whith some ue5 features
UE4: BRUNS UR PC.
UE5: BONUS, IT BURNS UR WHOLE HOUSE.
UE6 (coming soon): Kim joung yun will by sponser to make, because he an open the app on an pc and drop it from plane in any country. boom. nucler bomb
This video needed to be in 4k.
I can see minimal differences.🤷♂️
そうだよ UE5 のよう じゃなきゃ
Great!
We need ultra-realistic graphics to be able to live in a nuclear bunker for a long time.
so basically UE5 just changes the contrast
If you look closely, the Unreal Engine 5 version looks worse.
This isn't a good representation of UE5's power over UE4. UE4 looks better in almost every instance in this video. Many graphical artifacts appear in UE5's examples here.
Is that the Doc's gas station? Champions Club!
Akshay cmon my dude 😂
@@ZombieDawgs I just had to mate! Nice seeing you here as well XD