Paint Chip Hack: Can You Fill a Car Paint Chip with Paint, Sand & Buff?
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2022
- Can you fill a paint chip with touch up paint, sand it flat after it dries and buff it? Find out in this brief video testing this idea or paint chip hack. Tools and materials listed below:
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This method works a lot better if you just sand the edges of the chip to be a smooth transition. Like a smooth hill instead of jagged cliff. That extra step really helps blend the new paint with the old.
That's a good tip AR - thanks for sharing :)
Exactly
You're right Jerry..it looks better than a big chip. Have a great weekend..
I just wanna say THANK YOU! Your videos have been a holy grail of learning and information ... the way your videos are detailed to the point and imformative have made it so much easier to understand and repeat the processes shown ... i have been restoring a 01 ram 1500 ( canadian rust bucket) for 4 years and im finally on the last legs to having it completed 98% done by myself / with friends and these videos have helped me so much along the way 👌🙏
That's good to hear my friend. I appreciate the kind words. Feel free to send me some pics when finished if you want - would love it. schoolvideolibrary at gmail dot com Have a great SB weekend Farmer Joe - Jerry
Will do and again thanks so much 🙏
I used this approach a couple weeks ago and it worked great.
Looks darn good. I think most people would be happy with this kind of repair. I know I would.
That came out a lot better than I thought it would, and definitely a lot faster and cheaper then the correct way of doing it. Another fantastic video, Sir. Thank you for making them.
You're welcome. I think if I would have been a little more careful and patient on the sanding and buffing it would have worked perfect but at least you can see the pitfalls of attempting this. Have a good weekend Eric.
Good stuff Bud!! I've done that a few times, it works good but it's a process that can't be rushed!!☻
Thanks RK - enjoy SB 56 if you watch it :)
Breaking down the hard edge of the chip with some 1500 before starting works, takes away the outline when finished. I've also seen people use a rubber blade to actually fill the chip in one go, think the panel would need laying down for this. 👍
Never hurts to try something new! I'd be happy with that repair on all but my newest vehicle. Good content as usual.
Great job! Thanks for your practical paint repair tips for Common Folks- You earned my subscription-
Thanks for subbing Jack - hope the videos help you out :)
I've tried this with a two stage mix from the paint shop, it's hard to get it right but better than a paint chip, couple of them were perfect, rest had outlines, even used a pin to dab the paint in the smaller ones, came out okay
Change comes from trying new things, thank you Jerry!
I've always wondered about this process. You saved me alot of time. Thanks
Glad to help - your welcome :)
Scrape the touch up flat with a razor blade like you would a run then go through the same steps. Saves a lot of time and mitigates the risk of burning around the touch up. I've also had awesome luck mixing the paint slightly hot touching it up then using a plastic razor to scrape it flat while still wet.
Good video. I am in the process of attempting this on a motorcycle fender right now.
I have this exact problem in white on a fully restored 67 Bonneville convertible. Thanks!
Always enjoy the education! Thumbs up!
I've been doing touch up and paint repair for 25 years, almost all customers are happy because they don't want to repaint a large portion of their car.
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I had a bunch of chips on the front of the hood on a pickup truck I bought. 220,000 MI driving through Florida put a lot of bug scratches in that front of the hood. I washed it with hot water and ammonia so we had a clean base instead of a bunch of crud sanded into it. I put some spot putty on to fill the scratches instead of using paint. I sanded everything smooth very lightly and did like you did on the scratch but I was sanding down the putty. I mixed up some primer and put that on with the brush over the parts that were puttied.I taped and curled up masking paper back and I give it a couple light coats of white paint also. I let that dry for about a day I was afraid of the shrinkage on that spot putty. Then I went ahead and wet sanded it. I kind of sanded through the paint so I had had to clean it and spray it again. Look good when I was done hit it again with a spray and then was a coat of cheap clear I had laying around. I buffed it out it looked decent but I had to buff because I had overspray back towards the masking paper. That was in 2008 and that truck and I still have the truck now. It still looks real good. I thought that clear coat with a yellow but it never did.
Yeah, you're correct. The new touch-up paint will usually be softer than the original, and exact color matching is a challenge, especially with metallic paints where the size of the metallic flakes vary and also affect the appearance. Filling as accurately as possible and as level as possible with the original paint saves a lot of sanding. And that also reduces the sanding pressure required and consequently reduces occurrence of deeper sanding scratches within the repair area, as well as reducing "melting" of metallic flakes (in metallic paints) due to excess sanding friction which can cast the repair paint color with a grayish hue. I found that wet sanding by hand with 600 grit followed by 2000 grit is the perfect combination. Then follow by hand-buffing with Meguiar' Swirl Remover 2.0, which works surprisingly fast even by hand because this product is just so effective. Overall this method works best from my personal experience, and the results are better than repainting an entire panel, since that usually results in the entire panel color not quite matching neighboring panels. That's visibly far worse than a small paint chip touch-up repair, and is also far more time-consuming and expensive.
Does touch up paint always stay soft no matter how long you wait before sanding?
What would you do with a two stage paint correction? Base and clear coat. Would wet sanding and buffing the base coat work? Then apply a layer of clear over the top and repeat the steps?
@@mrsemifixit it stays pretty soft until you add clear coat
@@allseeingeyezz So without clear coat it wouldn’t sand right to blend?
@@AdiusOmegamix 30% clear into base.
Same with pearl, mix approx 70% pearl with base
The Immediate answer is literally yes you can!! Literally the exact way to fix a chip.
For what it is it came out alright. Looks better than a chip. If haters want perfection then spend the $$$ and get the respray done. Thanks for sharing your upload it's appreciated by those of us curious to try
Thanks Phil - us guys have to look out for each other - no body else does! :) It's time we all start helping each other out - no envy - no competition. All of out lives are hard - not easy for anyone.
Thank you Jerry . Love your videos. Beautiful job .
Thanks for watching Jon - I appreciate the support :)
Good experiment. That could be an acceptable fix for a daily driver.👍
I did a similar repair on my car and got similar results with the exception of it being a little higher as opposed to lower for the repair. In typical base coat clear coat have to remember there is only a tiny amount of clear to work with and while it may look close if you measure the clear its really easy to burn thru. For a cheap repair i would be happy with your end result but if your picky respray is the only way to go. Great job!
Also Larry at Ammo NYC uses a seringe for paint if you get this kind of repair often i would recommend giving that a try as it may make your life so much easier
Alot better then just dabbing the paint in. Might guve this a try on some paibt chips I got.
Did this several times back in the single stage acrylic enamel days. Had to dab it in over several days. Repair was undetectable.
Thanks for your input 2TH :)
Only see it if your looking for it .awesome man
After sanding you should've put some clear coat in it to level it out. But for demonstration purposes this was great.
If you do this to your own vehicle. Try to use the same type of paint that is on the vehicle. Single stage, base clear, tricoat, whatever is on the vehicle. The more time you put into it, the better it can look. And it's definitely better than painting the entire panel. Especially if it's a classic car. Repairing original paint is always better than a respray. Paint is only original once
Yep, clear coat is the trick to a better match and hiding the repair.
I think 2 coats of Base & 4 coats of clear would of blended better...
Using All paint causes a shadow ring-- no matter what..
Also, Masking off a 1/2 inch around the Chip..
When, using less >1000 grit will prevent needlessly Scratching or Gouging up the surrounding surface. 😊👌
Nice tip that I'm going to try.
Good enough for my 07 Taurus !
Dr. Color Chip. Their paint match is excellent. Great results in minutes.
Thanks for the info Paul :)
Looks quite good overall! Thank you!
Thanks Chris - you're welcome :)
👍🏻Looks good! For a Low cost alternative.
Look much better than the chip especially on white thank you for the video Jerry sty safe
You do the same Husky - enjoy the weekend my friend :)
Great job Jerry once it is outside i'm sure it won't be noticeable!
Going to try this with stone chips on my single stage gloss black paint, see if its good enough save on a respray
Great video, thanks for making it.
You're welcome Greg :)
I did a simler repair on chip a few years ago, turned out very good, only thing I did different I built up the chipped area up with a little primer 2 coats
That seems like it would work a bit better. Thanks for your input - Merry Christmas 🎉🎅🎄
Great stuff!!!
That not bad for doing that way. The stuff I get good results from is Langka blob remover. You have to use the touch up paint in the bottle but works good no sanding needed. Doesn’t hurt the clear coat. Worked better on my Mustang than my Subaru the Subaru touch up paint dry too hard.
Finally. someone doing a video with paint, not a kit. Kits don't work with custom colors. And extra points for using safety goggles!
Thanks for watching Andrew and the support :)
have anyone tried using filler to build it up and finishing with spraycan? specially for metallic paints
I watched all of these types of videos it's never perfect
No free lunch , nice experiment !
It can be done perfectly, but depends on the colour. Metallixs and pearls are difficult. And you should do it 2 stage. The colour first, then the lacquer. Let the lacquer harden oroperly, build it up high. Then you need to blade it off flush before sanding it with 1200/1500 then 3000. Instead of lacquer, you can also use clear glue with activator. That speeds up the whole process. I have done this millions of times.
My car is "silver pearl". I'm amazed how professional painters can get such a perfect finish. I'm handy at most things, but I think I'd end up making an even worse finish than what I started with.
Good job 👍
Dude! Money saver hack - Thank You!!
You're welcome :)
Thats a great repair Jerry. Certainly looks way better. I have many chips on various vehicles. 🙄
Thanks PSG - have a good weekend :)
very thoughtful
Wouldn't it be better to feather out the edged before adding paint? Idk I'm not a painter
Great video! I do something similar but use clear to build it up works pretty well. Keep up the good work!
Thanks GN - good to hear from you. You are a very good teacher - I check out your vids often - don't always make a comment though. You do nice work my friend. Enjoy SB 56 if you watch it :)
@@LakesideAutobody Thank brother!
Very helpful thank you
I have gotten a syringe and used that to fill in the chips, works nice.
I do the same on hoods, trunks, roofs...but I can't get that to work on the typical side panel. Too much puddling at the bottom.
I'll usually fill that with glazing compound proud, sand flat, prime just over the chip perimeter, sand flat, spray a circle. Buff by hand to blend.
I have used this method a few times with varying rates of success. To ensure I kept on top of the new paint when sanding, I used the Dolphin Glaze trick that is used for paint runs. Some colours work well, others don't. In some cases I am sure it would be quicker to repaint the panel, but this way costs nothing.
Thanks for your input my friend - very helpful :)
Amazing…. Works for me!
Great video! Following your advice, building up the paint and letting it dry for a while might yield slightly better results, but for the cost of this touch up? Looks substantially better than before. Going to give this a try in the spring! I can’t possibly make my bumper and worse than it is! 🤣
If you remember, let me know how it goes for you :)
Thanks for that... very helpful
You're welcome :)
A friend of mine said that a ziptie pointed end is perfect for touch ups. Try it! =)
Also, a shark blade by Mirka might be useful for cutting the paint down flat. Particularly if you fix a base clear scratch, I'd guess you would sand the spot lightly to dull the clear, dab your touch up into the chip, fill with clear, cut down if possible with the shark blade or festool blade (carbide blade) and then lightly sand and polish. I bet you could do pretty well with that technique. Nice vid, appreciate it. A basic touch up is plenty for many cars.
Thanks Spencer - appreciate your input. Good ideas - have a good end of the week :)
Nice result. With more drying time and less aggressive buffing could be phenomenal.
You're right. If I would have taken my time and been patient it would have turned out better :)
Awesome job!
Thanks! :)
looks really good!
Thanks :)
Looks alot better.
I've had similar results. We used to do it with gel coat on boats all the time, it was a lot easier because gel coat is a whole lot thicker than paint and gives you more to sand down before going through
Did those boats come out nearly invisible or could you still see it if you were looking very closely ?
It would depend a lot on the age of the boat. Gel coat yellows over time and most boats are white or off white. We'd usually get the gel coat from the manufacturer and if the boat was relatively new, you wouldn't be able to tell. Older boats is was more noticeable. A lot of times we could tint it enough that you couldn't see it unless you were looking for it.
@@BruceLyeg Thanks for the response Bruce - have a good week my friend :)
Sanding the edges lightly and using a couple coats of filler primer, then paint and then clear would probably give better results
Thanks my friend - good to help each other out - 'specially in today's USA :)
Interesting video. 👍👍👍👍
Using a razor blade works much better to cut it down to the surface. Do the sandpaper draw trick to the razor blade to give it a hook on the edge and just drag it across. Peels off runs very well and dead flat.
Thanks! Very helpful
Glad it helped - have a good weekend :)
Try the factory touch up paint and the Langka kit.
Thank you! You've given me the confidence to take on my 92 c1500 rockers and cab corners! Love your videos! What kind of body filler do you use? And where do I get it? Thanks!
Glad you enjoy the videos Jeremy. I use Auto Body Master light weight body filler from the local Auto Value auto parts store $21/gal. You don't need anything expensive.
Hi all, in my opinion this is the correct way of fixing a chip like this, not filling and respraying the panel, because to a good eye the respray you can pick up too, either slightly different shade, gloss, coverage etc. But you have to be really patient with this method, slowly building up the paint, you can cut down a sanding block and literally just sand the area which helps. I have used this method for years and do it right, right sanding through the grades, right polishing etc I have got them just about perfect, takes alot of time though, start to finish about 3 days, not continuous of course, just building up layers, waiting for paint to dry, sanding, polishing .
Interesting. Thanks for the input NA - I do think it would work well if you had the patients :)
Wow excellent video
Thanks Frank :)
Very useful. Thanks
You're welcome Rob - have a good weekend :)
Stayin’ on top is usually a good thing.
Good skills, you should have used primer and clear coat to make it perfect. I did it and it's lasting well. Harder with the grey color
DAP Dynaflex 230. If you can't find it use any equivalent elastomeric latex. Dynaflex Ultra is newer and probably better as it's more flexible and UV resistant. Both are paintable within an hour, come in multiple colors (clear if unsure), and waterproof. However 230 due to being a bit less flexible is able to handle gaps up to 1 inch whereas Ultra covers up to 1/2". All these fancy fillers are using the chemical compound of this. As a matter of fact DAP makes custom colors of this very product under Dynaflex 920. For clear coat I would recommend Angelus Leathee
Interesting... I'll look into these products - thanks for the comments :)
Great video! It kind of looked like the new paint in the gouge continued to shrink after it was sanded flat.
I think the buffing took a little too much new paint with it. I might try buffing with a very small buffer or even by hand next time :)
Great repair.... keep up the good work
I usually apply clearcoat over it after it dries. Then sand and buff
I wanted know if I use touch up paint, after sanding should I then apply a clear coat or just use the buffing compound like what used in the video. I guess I’m a little confused on the difference between clear coat and buffing compound. Like do the touch up paint, then sand and then do clear coat. After all that then I do the buffing?
You can give it a coat of clear - especially if you are using metallic paint. Buffing compound shines anything - plastic, old paint, old clear coat, etc. Clear also adds shine to something but it is a coating not rubbing. Hope that helps a bit :)
USE A HEAT GUN BETWEEN COATs......it will dry faster so you can build it thicker.
Not always, if its urethane then it needs to gas out before drying
Has anyone tried an inkwell pen instead of a brush?
heat gun the area first before painting it may help, curing the paint quickly to dry faster. tape around the area before sand will help from damaging paint in the area you are sanding
Good ideas PJR - I like the heat - maybe a heat lamp :)
Thank you!
You're welcome :)
I love it when I see in the comments, a better way to do it LOL
Make me think of the old saying, "You never know till you try."
There's actually a decent tool for filling chips - called a Fine Line Painting Pen. It really helps to not over-fill the chip - less risk of cutting through the paint around the chip when you're blocking and buffing.
Good info Sno - thanks for your input :)
Adding some layers of clearcoat would help build up thickness and help with the sanding and polish matching.
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I always use a little filler first, then paint with brush, works better. Paint is not so thick. I have been doing this for years.
do u need clear over it? I know they have clear in those touch up pens
Clear would have probably helped but not necessary - maybe on metallic colors. I think it would really fail on metallic paint though :)
I couldn't help but wonder why you did not tackle the chips on the edge of the door at the same time.
Also, any follow up recommended regarding clear coat? Thanks.
Yes - I thought someone would catch that. Good eye. It's just a demo door though. Do you mean what type of clear coat would work? If so, any automotive grade clear will work fine. You might be able to get away with some clear enamel nail polish - that's probably not good advice though. Myself - I would give it a try without worry though. You can always dig it out and try again.
As you said, trying to get the right level with paint is difficult. What is your opinion of filling with a glaze putty on a deep chip before paint?
Probably would work better. I think I should have buffed it by hand - the new paint was soft - the old paint was harder so I think it took more off of the new thus lowering it a bit. Not sure but I do know that body shops never try this so this must be the reason :)
White paint is probably the easiest color to get a greater than 90% improvement for paint chip touch-ups.
Does this work on rock chips on silver metalic paint?
Metallic paints are tough to work with as you will have a hard time getting the metallic flakes to match. The paint may look much darker or lighter depending on what the met flakes do :)
I've filled in smaller chips on Mercedes black pearl metallic paint that was practically imperceptible. It takes time and patience. The key was to let the paint dry thoroughly before building up the next lacquer layer. When I was near level, I filled in the rest of the way with the OE clear coat paint. Hand/finger buffed to level- no sanding. In a shop it might take 3-7 days, so that may not be suitable for a production environment.
Forgot to add, that was on a 1992 model Mercedes. In my experience paint was a lot thicker back then.
You're right on the process. My mistake was buffing with a machine - should have done it by hand.
Answer is yes. But it will be a perfectly smooth light or dark spot.
Did you add additional hardener to paint after you got it or did you have to prep the paint yourself cause it didn't have hardener in it ?
I added the hardener myself :)
In all fairness, white is the hardest color to match.
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When you are doing this with white paint do need to use a particular colour sand paper or block? I am using black sand paper and seems to stain the area I am fixing
Interesting.... As long as you are using quality automotive grade wet sand paper you should be fine. Try not using a block - maybe it's the block. I've never run across that issue before. Let me know what you find out :)
@@LakesideAutobody will do. I thought it was the “ black” of the paper that was causing and I should go for the white or cream version. I’ll be honest I don’t know the difference between dry and wet sanding so perhaps that’s the issue
on little chips I found it better to use a dremel to even and polish out before using a bigger mop
Good suggestion Tony - I think the "bigger mop" dug out some of my paint :)