The History of Discard Decks in Magic: the Gathering | Deck History 45

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  • @lightbearer313
    @lightbearer313 2 роки тому +36

    Considering the topic of this video, there is an ironic misprint in your list of the contents of Royce Chai's Pox deck: 2 Yawgmoth's Mill (should be Will).

    • @magnesium13
      @magnesium13 2 роки тому +3

      Actually you were just upside down when you read the word

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 2 роки тому +80

    I love discard decks. Whenever blue players complain of my unrelenting discard effects, I just tell them to think of them as preemptive counterspells.

    • @dreamsalongthepath7377
      @dreamsalongthepath7377 2 роки тому +11

      I am offended and feel directly attacked by this comment. Nonetheless I shall grant you a like.

    • @astuteanansi4935
      @astuteanansi4935 2 роки тому +8

      That's a real "I used the stones to destroy the stones" moment there

    • @Tylerbremner
      @Tylerbremner 2 роки тому +2

      Blue players shouldn’t whine about anything

    • @hamburg2488
      @hamburg2488 Рік тому

      Lol same

  • @Lasthope06
    @Lasthope06 2 роки тому +16

    You do great work with the deck histories, keep it up!

  • @Hundo_Mo
    @Hundo_Mo 2 роки тому +2

    My veeeeery first MTG deck when I started back in 2009 was a Discard deck I made in college.
    Still have it to this day!

  • @DemonsForge
    @DemonsForge 2 роки тому +4

    Nice!
    This is one of my mainstay modern decks! Interesting to see that the deck I've been playing (using Affliction) is actually fairly new to the family.

  • @TheyCallHimPogo
    @TheyCallHimPogo 2 роки тому +3

    Glad the 12am uploads are back!!

  • @TheIndustrialRetrospective
    @TheIndustrialRetrospective 2 роки тому +1

    I had a U/B deck that used howling mines and windfall with megrim and underworld dreams that was pretty vicious, had a few jars in there as fallback wincon.

  • @devononair
    @devononair 2 роки тому +4

    I love Megrim! One of my favourite decks is my Megrim/Hypnotic Specter deck. It's just so much fun!
    PS. Wow, Davriel is just a Rack/Discard combo all by themselves. It kinda takes the fun out of deckbuilding at that point.

  • @LadyBernkastel92
    @LadyBernkastel92 2 роки тому +27

    "Planeswalkers were also not effected by smallpox"
    As we all know, The Blind Eternities TSA has a very strict vaccination policy, ever since Urza accidentally brought the Dakmor Plague to Ixilan that one time.

  • @sir_kappa7644
    @sir_kappa7644 2 роки тому +18

    Discard has got to be my favorite archetype 🖤

  • @LVMTG
    @LVMTG 2 роки тому

    Discard has always been my favorite archetype. My first purchased deck was the 8th edition black deck. I fell in love.

  • @magnesium13
    @magnesium13 2 роки тому +1

    I forgot about Davriel, its quite the interesting addition to discard decks. I would love to see a Pox/Smallpox deck history, as that's one of my favorite decks in Legacy!

  • @MCSEMan23
    @MCSEMan23 2 роки тому

    There's a fun combo I loved to play - 4 TIm's, cowardice + warped devotion. Bounce/discard combo at it's finest.

  • @juanmartinrival6907
    @juanmartinrival6907 2 роки тому

    When Planeshift was published there was a beatifull UB discard deck on extended with Warped Devotion + megrim and a lot of bouncing + counters

  • @RockOn78
    @RockOn78 2 роки тому +12

    Maybe my favorite old deck. Usually effective lol (yep old af, 90s)
    4 Hymn
    4 Mindstab Thrull
    4 Hyppie
    4 Rack
    4 dark ritual
    3 Disrupting Scepter
    4 Stupor/Coercion
    4 Sengir Vampire
    4 Terror
    3 Funeral Charm
    22 Swamp
    Love that deck, but not tolerated very often 😂. Secured by turn 3-4. I have a version of that deck with 4 Sinkhole and 4 Icequake, also mean. Awesome video, thx Nizza!

    • @charlesng553
      @charlesng553 2 роки тому

      contagion to kill opposing black weenies

    • @daniduc
      @daniduc 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, I played a very similar deck in the 90's, with the land destruction and discard. Won games and lost friends.

    • @EnderLord99
      @EnderLord99 2 роки тому +1

      what is "hyppie"

    • @iv0luti0n
      @iv0luti0n 2 роки тому +3

      @@EnderLord99 Hypnotic Specter

    • @85mcarnold
      @85mcarnold 2 роки тому +1

      Come play Premodern and relive the glory days.

  • @mrpinguimninja
    @mrpinguimninja 2 роки тому +1

    There has been a few new lists in modern that play Tourach, Dread Cantor, but I imagine it hasn't put up results yet

  • @raymondpopple6390
    @raymondpopple6390 11 місяців тому

    First turn kill in Vintage at a relatively low budget; Mana Crypt, Mox Opal, Lotus Petal, Tolarian Academy, 2x Liliana’s Caress, Windfall

  • @ThisNameIsVeryClever
    @ThisNameIsVeryClever 2 роки тому +5

    Discard was my favorite archetype back when I was active in the game.
    I'm still not sure why anyone wanted to play with me.

  • @dreamsalongthepath7377
    @dreamsalongthepath7377 2 роки тому +1

    So thats where spice8rack’s name comes from!

  • @TransformersBoss
    @TransformersBoss 2 роки тому +1

    Liliana really fits in a Rack deck

  • @Discostick55
    @Discostick55 2 роки тому

    In 1999 as a kid without any idea about formats and rules I just played with my brothers collection of older cards and buying booster packs and just using all cards available to me. I remember building black deck with Megrim with Hyppies and some other discard stuff, but also Wall of Souls. To us kids, that card was so OP it was almost unfair, I loved bouncing back that damage from my friends creatures.

  • @ContainsMultitudes
    @ContainsMultitudes 2 роки тому +3

    I came to lose a life, discard a card, and sac a land.

  • @jvan6582
    @jvan6582 Рік тому

    8rack will forever and always be my favorite deck to play in mtg

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger3335 2 роки тому

    With the printing of Tergrid, edh has a very powerful discard deck. Other edh discard decks are pretty good but they're very inefficient. But if you can get Tergrid on the field, then you're getting a ton of value.

  • @Jude30
    @Jude30 2 роки тому

    Nothing more fun than turn one Hippy and a turn two Hymn.

  • @davidminor4213
    @davidminor4213 2 роки тому

    8rack is like classical music. It's seldom popular (aka tier 1) but it never dies

  • @johnramsey2750
    @johnramsey2750 2 роки тому

    Interesting type of decks here. Possibly the ones I like the least To face in commander. Can just imagine how frustrating these would have been in tourneys. Fingers crossed that Tergrid can’t become a thing in standard.

  • @stevenrhodes8338
    @stevenrhodes8338 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video I just wish you told us your opinion on Ranks artwork

  • @85mcarnold
    @85mcarnold 2 роки тому

    I do find it interesting you didn’t mention any of the old Necro decks, but I guess that didn’t really have any discard payoffs other than the inherent disruption.

  • @captiannemo1587
    @captiannemo1587 2 роки тому

    Was just thinking of the discard artifacts today..

  • @tml1999
    @tml1999 Рік тому

    I recently got into magic the gathering I played a few times 5 years ago but I didn't know how to play cause I played yugioh non stop I still play yugioh but I'm getting into magic more I bought 2 decks I bought a pauper green wolves deck and a discard deck with the rack I'm gonna buy some cards for the discard deck

  • @pitakon
    @pitakon 2 роки тому

    Well no mention of balance being a discard spell. or maysonet rack balance. going from blumke to extended without mentioning necro.

  • @altron6476
    @altron6476 2 роки тому

    Please do a history of graveyard decks soon! Really curious as to what the first graveyard deck to become a thing was! :)

  • @16BitFerret
    @16BitFerret 2 роки тому

    This is a deck type I have not thought about in a long while. Wonder how viable it could be for Pioneer.

  • @NoName-w4j3t
    @NoName-w4j3t 4 місяці тому

    Wow - surprised Liliana Carress didn't appear

  • @Plantedbetta
    @Plantedbetta Рік тому

    My one and only deck I keep is a discard edh deck that started in 1997

  • @Redragonclaws
    @Redragonclaws 2 роки тому

    Do a video on Doran decks sometime. I would find that very enlightening

  • @pauljimerson8218
    @pauljimerson8218 2 роки тому +1

    Tinybones approved this message

  • @MSR-1701
    @MSR-1701 Рік тому

    Nice history!😅
    Would you be able to cover any "degenerate" decks/early deck building in Magic (ie - all Rats from Alpha) or any silver boardered decks of note?

  • @bstachutheuneatable1727
    @bstachutheuneatable1727 2 роки тому

    It'd be interesting if standard had a restricted list again

  • @keiharris332
    @keiharris332 2 роки тому

    Aww I so wanted life gain. My commander is oloro

  • @ljm3757
    @ljm3757 5 місяців тому

    I love discard

  • @gawbe
    @gawbe 2 роки тому

    Hey! It's my deck!

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate 2 роки тому

    Here for the rack love 😁

  • @tonythepokemonguy751
    @tonythepokemonguy751 2 роки тому

    Turn one ritual/hippie
    Turn two attack and hymn
    Yeah I was a monster

  • @david21216
    @david21216 2 роки тому

    haa wonder if 8-rack be spice8racks inspo, maybe can finally get the mill vs discard video lmfao

  • @captiannemo1587
    @captiannemo1587 2 роки тому

    Megrim is such a troll

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger3335 2 роки тому

    Has the card Cursed Rack ever seen play in a Discard deck?

  • @troythewizard9940
    @troythewizard9940 2 роки тому +5

    Ah, Discard- second behind Land Destruction, the most maligned mechanic to me. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way 😆...
    .
    .
    ...considering most opponents on MTG Arena concede on T1 Duresses, Thoughtseizes, Inquisitions 😆 in non-ranked formats

    • @RogueDemon1199
      @RogueDemon1199 2 роки тому +3

      Me i auto concede to waste not card is just too damn good

    • @devononair
      @devononair 2 роки тому +2

      People should stop being babies and put some counterspells in their decks ;)

    • @troythewizard9940
      @troythewizard9940 2 роки тому +1

      @@devononair What good is that counterspell if your opponent knows everything in your hand and discards it, or something else, before you even have a first turn 😉

    • @devononair
      @devononair 2 роки тому

      @@troythewizard9940 lol

  • @Nick-ym4gh
    @Nick-ym4gh 2 роки тому

    "The opponent can´t play cards if you disable his hand."

  • @anarchymatt
    @anarchymatt 2 роки тому +1

    LEGALIZE HYMN

  • @melonyfbb
    @melonyfbb 2 роки тому +13

    thank god no more alchemy

    • @eliashigham8901
      @eliashigham8901 2 роки тому +5

      People who whine about alchemy are somehow even more annoying than alchemy itself

    • @soren1803
      @soren1803 2 роки тому +5

      @@eliashigham8901 I disagree

    • @yellowpie
      @yellowpie 2 роки тому

      Alchemy is cool cry about it

    • @dustinpalmer
      @dustinpalmer 2 роки тому +4

      Agreed.i want people to not talk about it so magic just cancels it

    • @soren1803
      @soren1803 2 роки тому +2

      @@yellowpie can you name every card from faithful disciple’s spellbook without looking it up?

  • @letsmakeit110
    @letsmakeit110 2 роки тому +1

    Surprised there's never been a successful deck that paired Black discard with Blue bounce/card draw. Just on paper you'd think something like Unsummon would be cheaper than trying to remove the opponent's board outright. Maybe it's too many moving parts?

    • @phelandiller4066
      @phelandiller4066 2 роки тому +1

      If you ever want Cyclonic Rift or Capsize to be even more brutal combine with Warped Devotion in commander for a brutal bounce discard synergy...

    • @juanmartinrival6907
      @juanmartinrival6907 2 роки тому +1

      @@phelandiller4066 Loved that combo. Also with megrim + sunder was my win condition

  • @merdufer
    @merdufer 2 роки тому

    The archaic spelling on Megrim gives me headache.