I owe a lot to Robert Spencer. Back in my college days the woman who would become my wife and mother of my kids (whom I love very much 😊) Was a Shia Muslim. After she read the History of Jihad she became a Christian. 4 years later we got married.
Thank you Robert Spencer. I read the Quran. I am not Mulism. I hate no one. When I have asked questions from the Quran that contradict what the Islam teachers say. They always go around it or do not answer it. They even said I have read it wrong, even when point it out. I thank you for telling the truth. This is not hate you are speaking it's the truth
Im assuming you do not read or speak Arabic when asking this. When you speak to Muslims about the Quaran, do they ever mention that it can only be read in Arabic? Any other language is aberrant? Some other Christian apologists who engage with Muslims have said the Muslims will object to any non-Arabic based interpretation or exegesis.
@@blchamblisscscp8476 Ironically the OLD arabic that the Quran is written in is hardly AT ALL spoken or understood by contemporay Arabic speakers. The similarity would be between Anglo Saxon and contemporrary English.
You can refute the “anti-Muslim” accusation to a leftist like this. Them: “You’re anti Muslim” You: “What do you think of Nazism?” Them: “I hate it.” You: “So you hate Germans?” Them: “No of course not.” You: “So you can criticise Nazism without hating Germans?” Them: “Yes.” You: “So I can do the same for Islam and Muslims then.” Them: 😮
A better conversation would be: “Do you hate the Germans living today for Nazism” Answer: “Of course not”. Do you hate the Germans who condoned and supported the Nazi regime and still do? Answer: “Yes”
I don't hate Muslim, I just can't comprehend trusting the word of Muhammad as truth cause Muhammad is a pedophile,murde rer,who loot and enslave human and turn woman to sex slaves. I would not trust a criminal regarding Go. And Muslim says Quran is a word of god and the proof of that is just trust me bro(trust Muhammad) trust that this angel gibril is a real angel of god and Allah is really the creator. Gibril maybe a demon or just made up by Muhammad and also Allah he might be a demon or a fragment of Muhammad's imagination
If anyone sees that guy Sheik with the link above. Don't waste your tims with his link. Its a bunch of random muslims using bad information to try and do Dawah.
@@LucaBrasi7548 this is the issue, you think if I reject the bible and quran that entails i think no sentient being initiated the big bang. some people just claim they dont know so they wont lie to themselves. i dont know the truth and i dont care, because i dont think i will ever know the truth about the universe's origins and what happens after death. its almost as if abrahamic religions r just man made books that try and explain those questions we dont know and wont ever truly know the answer to. not only do i not know if a "god" exists, but i certainly dont think that if it is still alive at this exact moment, nor do i think it 100% would contact humans. i also think it is highly suspicious that the god from bible and quran has never "re-visted" earth since the dark ages. today, with science and tech, we r the best equipped we have ever been to demonstrate and share the veracity of an all-knowing, all-powerful being.
I have many of Robert Spencer’s books and had the pleasure of hearing him speak in person. All of his material is very factual and well researched, backed up with references and documentation.
@@whatsgood4666 there's not hundreds of non muslim records. there's not even any muslim records. about 90 years later abdul malik mentioned Mohammad for the first time. and 150 after Mohammad the hadith were written down.
I think Robert Spencer is a great and honest and intelligent man.I have the greatest admiration for his tenacity in his search of the truth about a religion.
@@mayamurthy3824 Hi Maya... No need to write all in capital ( that is rude ) ... I love Jesus ... just like any other prophet who delivered the massage of oneness of God ( Allah ) ... God does not need a son or a daughter... There is nothing comparable to God Almighty. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.
@@mohammedamkor4748That may be the message of the Quran “ The oneness of God but it is Not the message that is spoken of right throughout the bible nor is it the message that Jesus preached .
Can't believe I ran across two of my heroes starting a conversation about data which I have argued about on Twitter and elsewhere. The conversation, I believe could be labeled historical. I believe I have seen many, many hour-long videos in which Dr.Jay Smith taught the historical Muhammad or the Quran. And I believe I have every book that Bob Spencer wrote. In fact, as I recall, he sent me one and I sent him mine in return. If anyone can pull this video up again , it is worth every second of listening--no punches were pulled and nothing left unsaid.
Jay and Robert thanks for your work, the historical study of Islam and Muhammad is very interesting on its own right and shows another way in which Muslim claims completely fail when tested.
What an absolute pleasure to see both of these two beautiful faces on the one screen. I hang for every word you both are about to say as I sit in owe of how much The Holy Spirit is deeply entrenched in your minds and souls. Much love to the both of you.
I come from my reasoning rather than my beliefs. Evidence is more important Than belief. People still believe that the earth is flat. You have to prove it is flat.
@@htccht4111 , pls show your proofs man... Be a man of the Truth , don't depend on what have you been heard from your emam or your known scholars with nothing dept proofs..
Sorry I missed the live stream. Robert was kind to me once. He gave me several of his books for my classroom. I’ve heard him dozens of times. I think he is right.
Watched the whole show. An exciting survey of historical persons and events and the formation of the Quran and the Prophet Muhammad himself. Will look out for those two books.
@@endpc5166 Publication does take time. Good things come for those who can wait. Look out also for Binimad Al-Ateeqi's 5-volume books for the latest story of Islam. Binimad was educated in the UK and USA as a military officer. He has found interesting old military maps of Mecca and its surrounding mountains and caves. Not clear if his studies are up to PhD level.
Really great to see the two of you together!! 32:30 On the Dome of the rock, have you considered the context of its construction (685-691) by abd alMalik during the time of his conflict with ibn alZubayr? For a time, the Kaaba was not accessible to those under abd alMalik's rule, whether in Petra or Mecca, so there would be a temptation to create a rival Kaaba (in similar thinking to Jeroboam and the temple being in Jerusalem, so he starts a new religion confined to the territories of the Northern kingdom). With that in mind, what does the Dome of the Rock look like? It looks like it's built to be circumambulated, with plenty of space around it for people to do so - and it even has its own rock inside to venerate. Later, with ibn alZubayr eliminated (691), and the Kaaba accessible again even though displaced, the Dome of the Rock could be re-purposed.
@@RizwanAli-hp9jbellfire 😂😂😂😂😂 How stupid ! Hellfire is nothing but a pagan dogma Platonism to be exact , that priests used as a way to scare people, there is no such place .
I literally finished reading this book last night! I did find it a really compelling read and I didn't really want to put it down once I picked it up. I hear that a lot of the ideas and concepts of the book are disputed and I do keep hearing that scholars are constantly uncovering evidence that are consistently in line with the traditional narrative of Islamic history so... I don't know. All I can do is look at both sides of the arguments (seeing as there are reputable sources on both sides) and wait for more evidence to come out. The problem is that I'm from a Muslim background and the area I live in has religion embedded in it and so my natural bias is to go with the traditional narrative but, like I said, his book "Did Muhammad Exist?" did really open my eyes.
Fahim, what are some of the evidences you have seen or heard about which support the Traditional Account of Muhammad's life? I'd love to hear about them.
@@pfanderfilms Not sure if 'evidence' was really the correct word of me to use. But just one example, Professor Joseph Lumbard basically asserts that even the Sanaa manuscript doesn't show vastly different arabic textual variants that would effect the meaning (see link). He also says that the more manuscripts are found the more it affirms the traditional narrative. ua-cam.com/video/klr3Jy2e3mk/v-deo.html I'm not sure what evidence this is based on, however since I know nothing about any of this I'm not really in a position to disagree with him. I'd love to hear any thoughts you have about the link!
@@fahimcan12345 I'm not sure how an 8th century manuscript of the Qu'ran (the Sana'a manuscript) supports the traditional narrative of Muhammad, since by that time Muhammad would have been well known, and the Qur'an would be in its infancy stages of being written. What's more, the Sana'a is only around 28% of the Qur'an, and is a palmimpsest, which means it has a lower layer of writing, and that lower layer has 60 verses, with over 70 differences in that layer with that of the upper layer. How can that be authoritative?
@@pfanderfilms I saw a video recently from Dan Gibson about the historical Muhammad - I'd love to hear what you think about it (if you haven't seen it yet that is) ua-cam.com/video/9idgZjiqlYg/v-deo.html I suppose the main flaw I can see in his video is that books such as Spencer's book don't necessarily claim that Muhammad didn't exist but rather that his life was greatly exaggerated and that he didn't necessarily have anything to do with the religion of Islam.
Well, Jay, I have been looking forward to this for quite some time and boy did it live up to my expectations! I am glad that either by design or by accident the issue of Mohammad as a name vs. a sobriquet came up. I have been trying to find out if this word, as a name, existed prior to Islam. I couldn't find any examples in my research but as Dan Gibson keeps saying. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Robert Spencer made it clear, as a personal name it did not exist prior to Islam. That has always made sense to me. After all, what loving mother would name her kid: "The one worthy of praise". If that didn't earn him an unending series of wedgies from his classmates nothing would! Now you and Robert Spencer have me champing at the bit for the next episode. May it be soon and may there never come a day when some far distant historian writes a book titled "Did Jay Smith and Robert Spencer Exist?"
Mohamed is Jesus written in Aramaic, but read in Arabic, look at this www.pinterest.com/pin/567805465492896829/ if you know Arabic alphabet you'll realize that it is Muhamed.., Very strange no ? Maybe Muhamed was trying to identify with Jesus somehow?
@Hineni John3:16 not sure what's funny :) There's growing evidence that early arabs used Syriac gospels and stole content from them to write the Quran, so this might have inspired them when they came up with Muhammed.
Thank you for all your work to discover the truth. I was decided in Iran to follow Islam. Your work has helped me to find the truth and follow true God.
PBWY. Respectfully the more Islam is 'exposed' the more people are embracing it! On an evidential plane Islam is the only comprehensive system (real not dreamy) from the Creator which can be accepted using reason, rationality and reasonableness on the back of evidence.
I'm waiting for a book which compares women's rights during the Roman, Byzantine/Greek, Persian, Egypt, Ethiopian, Jewish, Christian, Chinese, Hindu "jahilyya" eras, with Muslim women rights after Islam. I'm sure that'd be a shock to a Muslims' conscience.
PBWY. Please do and you will find Islam to be the truth in relation to Women's rights, Men's rights and also animal rights! That certainly would be a shock to your conscience.
Love the content of your videos. I think if you could condense the content to 20 minutes or less. And break up the videos with longer times. You can get more traffic. Reach a broader audience. Just a suggestion.
@40:00 the "Dome of the Rock" would have taken inspiration from the Church of St Procopius in Caesarea (province of Palestine) built in 484 AD. Also the "Golden House" church of Antioch (province of Syria) built 327 AD (finally destroyed by an earthquake in 588 AD) had the same eight sided layout, with an ambulatory around a central area. Capped with a domed roof.
Dear. Dr. Jay Smith... I have a Christian apologetic yt channel in Indonesian language. I would like to translate some of your videos to Indonesian language. Can I have your permission for that?
Dr. Jay, thank you for this informative session. I heard that the writings on the walls of Dome of the Rock is about Jesus Christ!? I would appreciate if you could make a short video about that in the near future. Thanks & God bless.
Jay Smith, Robert Spencer, David Wood, Sam Shamoun, Apostate Proohet, Hatun. I am grateful to you all for helping me learn and understand more about debating or speaking with Muslims.
An hour well spent , exellent talk, just one critic Robert speak perfectly and i could understand evrything he said not the same with Dr J .Smith, he speak far to fast and for a poor 80 Y/old men like me it is to difficult to follow & understand him . I've been following you both for longtime & I thank you very much for your knowlege.& J.Smith you are legend at the speaker corner. THANK YOU BOTH MAY GOD BLESS-YOU . AMEN
3 years late here but here's a tip: on the video (bottom right corner) you can click "Settings", click "Playback Speed," and select .75 speed, in that way jay's fast speaking style will be slowed just enough for you to clearly understand him.
I love the way you concluded. Jesus is a good example even for atheist. I watched your debate with Shabir Ally,I mean the last debate, He was decimated. God bless your works
which was in the hands of Arabic speaking Jews, Nestorians, Nazarines (a sort of 'Christians'), Armenians and few others in Arabia according to Prof Sidney H Griffiths. See his book 'The Church in the Shadow of the Mosque. (Princeton University Press, 2008).
I think the Muhammad of history, the original man who became the Muhammad of Islam, was one of the generals who led the first Arab conquest. Just like the Roman emperors were deified men, this general was already a hero. Abdel Malik transformed this general into a prophet.
@buymebluepills I've called Muhammad the most human of all the prophets, perhaps because he was not really a prophet. He changed his mind daily. One day hateful toward some certain people. The next day accepting. The problem may be that Muslims do want to acknowledge him as a founder with human flaws, some serious, but as a perfect man. If they accepted the idea that their religion ewas for some people but not all and for some lands but not all land, the world would be better off and so would they. Then they could be accepting of a minority station outside their own lands and even accepting of people of their own ilk converting to another religion when the moved permanently to a land outside of their own. If they accepted their geographical sway as of 1492 as the verdict of "nature and nature's god" as to what their lands were, we wouldn't have the issues we have today. As it is, these are very intransigent and also very manipulative people who can only be met by equal methods. No one else in the world has the will and the unity to do that except maybe the Red regime in China. Not that in the end Islam will succeed in its aim of world hegemony. But they cleary are willing to wreck productive civilizations and live the consequences of doing so in order to gain geographical sway. In that way, they do have a kind of integrity. Credit them for that compared to some other people who are willing wreck civilizations while imagining that they can still possess the good of the civilization they want to wreck. Either that, or who are incognizant of the fact that they are wrecking a civilization.
The word "Muhammad" isn't a NAME, it is a title- the GLORIOUS ONE. So what was his NAME? Every time we read the word "Muhammad" in our mind let's read "the Glorious One", and try to put a human being behind that title? Doesn't that word, Muhammad, describe the god of the Islamic Religion? I stand corrected- "The Praised One" should replace the glorious one 😁
REAL Tomb OF JESUS DOES NOT EXIST!! scientifically proven now its not from the time of christ " they killed him not" 'Tomb of Jesus not from the time of jesus was built 300yrs later only 1,700 Years | Live Science www.livescience.com/61043-tomb-of-jesus-excavated.htmlMohamed in the Bible: 1)Deuteronomy 18:18-19 {I will raise a Prophet {like you} from their Brothers (Ismaeel)}. Mosses & Mohamed both born naturally. Both sent out from their homeland. Both married more than once. Both received Holy books (Torah & Quran) 📚 from Gabriel the Holy Spirit & Both died naturally. 2)Deuteronomy 33:2 {And he said: “The LORD came from Sinai (Mosses), And dawned on them from Seir mountain (Jesus); He shone forth from Mount Paran 🗻(Mohamed), And He came with ten thousands of saints (Companions); From His right hand Came a fiery law (Sharia Law) for them.}. This is Prophet Mohamed opening Macca with 10,000 Companions!!! 3)John 16:12 {I have many more things to say to you, but you can’t bear them now!!!} You can’t bear them now in 33 AD but in 570 AD when Prophet Mohamed is born if God day is 1,000 year hence, he came after half day!!! 4)John 16:13 {But when He, The Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide you into all the Truth, He will not (speak) on his own initiative, but whatever he (hears), He will (Speak), and He will disclose to you what is to come.} Prophet Mohamed informed us in 12 hr speech all coming events until we enter Paradise!!! If Holy Spirit he doesn’t have initiative and another Holy Spirit tell him what to say!!! If Holy Spirit why he didn’t say that rather than He 6 times!!? Holy Spirit or Ghost we say (It) not (He 6 times). He shall (speak) not reveal!!! Is Holy Ghost has mouth like Casper!!? Any Christian have a record of Holy Spirit (Speeches & Prophecies)!!!? 5)Solomon Songs 5:16 in Hebrew Mahamedem The em is added for respect like Allah is Allahem or Elohem. In Semitic languages Mohamed is 4 letters only like MHMD محمد from right to left!!! Mohamadem was translated in English to ALL LOVELY!!! How can you translate names!!? 6)Isaiah 42:11 House of Kidar 2nd Son of Ismaeel (Genesis 25:13) is Quraish & Kaba 🕋 where Prophet Mohamed was born. Kedar is his Great Grandfather. Sela سلع is mountain in Madinah ⛰next to Prophet Mohamed Mosque 🕌!!! Call of Prayer is the only one to say Raise their (Voice) Adhan 🔊!!! Jews use Horns and Christian use Bells 🔔 !!! 7)Gensis 21:17-21 Angel Gabriel find water 💦 well but deleted its name ZamZam as it is 20 meters from Kaba🕋 in Paran desert in Valley of Baca as it is called in Bible & Quran or Maca. God blessed Ismael & promised him fruitful & Great Nation!!! Who is Great Nation other than Muslims!!! Quran say footprint 👣 of Abraham next to Kaba🕋 is Clear Evidences. 8)Psalm 84:6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca as mentioned in Quran is Macca. In order to forge it they translate Baca the noun with capital to Valley of Weeping in Jordan!!! But where is the water well 💦 in Genesis 17:17-21!!! They deleted the name of the Holy well Zam Zam as it is 20 meters from Kaba🕋!!! It is producing water 💦from (5,000 years) time of Abraham until now and with quality that Professor Emoto from Japan issued 5 Books on the (Miracles of water) and its crystals that is different than any water on earth!! It is Alkaline to kill all germs 🦠 and viruses 🦠!! 9)Isaiah 29:12 Give the Book 📖 to the Unlearnt and told him (Read) and He will say (I am not Learnt). This is the first word and verse of the Holy Quran in cave of Heraa and that was the response of Prophet Mohamed PBUH said (I am not Learnt)!!!! 10)Luke 6:40 Jesus said we as student should learn from our Muslim Teacher 👨🏫 . The word (Mushlam) in Hebrew was deleted in translation from Hebrew to English by fraud!!! 11)Luke 34:36 Jesus said (Shalom Alikum) Peace on You or (Salam Alikm) Islam Greetings. 12)John 14:16 {And I will ask the Father, and he will give you (another) advocate to help you and be with you forever}. Note (another) do you have two Holy Spirit!!! Some translate the word as (Comforter). Since he used to call Belal to raise Call of Prayer (Comfort us with it Belal). He established prayer in his ascension to meet God after 7 Sky and Gabriel could not proceed to the Chair and Throne and his conversation with God we say it in all our prayers Tashahd. However, The original word in Aramaic is (Parkletus) The praised one Ahmed/Mohamed!!! 13)He is also the (Chosen One) مصطفى ومختار. Huios in Aramaic that was translated (Son) instead of (Chosen One) in Acts 3:13!!! Paida (Servant) was also translated (Son) in Acts 3:26!!! 14)Isaiah 21:13 Revelation from the Arab Land. In the forest of Arabia (Madinah) you will lodge!!! Prophet Mohamed will stay in Madinah. In fact 3 Jewish tribes immigrated to Madinah as they knew from this verse the next Prophet will stay there. 15)Isaiah 21:14 Here Son of Ismael Timaa who established Tmeem تميم tribe in Madinah gave him water and bread to Prophet Mohamed who (fled) from swords and bows of Macca pagans. 16)Isaiah 21:15 The immigration of Prophet Mohamed with Abu Bakr escaping from 40 men (drawn swords)⚔️ to kill Prophet Mohamed at his house in Macca and swords and bows 🏹 that followed him during immigration. 17)Isaiah 21:16 God said within one year of immigration in (Badr Battle) the Glory of Kedar (Quraish) Shall fail in front of all tribes as Prophet Mohamed defeated them. 18)Isaiah 21:17 The residue of the number of archers 🏹of the mighty men of Kedar (Quraish) are diminished as God has spoken. Muslims killed in battle of Badr 70 of Quraish mighty leaders and took another 70 as POW and that God sent 5,000 angels to fight with them as they were only 313 (Number of God Messengers & number of initial believers of Mahdy this year) and Quraish were 1,000. This battle was the first victory of the one year Islamic State!!! Many tribes entered Islam after this Battle. 19)Mathew 21:43 {Therefore, I tell you the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.}. (Great Nation & fruitful Genesis 17:20 & 21:18) Ismael/Muslims. 20) Chronicles 6:32 The foreigner (Prophet Mohamed) who is not from your people Israel, when he comes from far country for Your Great Names (99 names), when they come and pray towards this house (KABA) 🕋 in far country (Saudi/ Macca)!!!
I owe a lot to Robert Spencer. Back in my college days the woman who would become my wife and mother of my kids (whom I love very much 😊) Was a Shia Muslim. After she read the History of Jihad she became a Christian. 4 years later we got married.
Great. Bless your home.
Happy for you guys. May the Lord God bless your marriage. May you guys Continue to grow in the Lord in Jesus Mighty name.
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Thank you Robert Spencer. I read the Quran. I am not Mulism. I hate no one. When I have asked questions from the Quran that contradict what the Islam teachers say. They always go around it or do not answer it. They even said I have read it wrong, even when point it out. I thank you for telling the truth. This is not hate you are speaking it's the truth
Im assuming you do not read or speak Arabic when asking this. When you speak to Muslims about the Quaran, do they ever mention that it can only be read in Arabic? Any other language is aberrant? Some other Christian apologists who engage with Muslims have said the Muslims will object to any non-Arabic based interpretation or exegesis.
@@blchamblisscscp8476 Ironically the OLD arabic that the Quran is written in is hardly AT ALL spoken or understood by contemporay Arabic speakers. The similarity would be between Anglo Saxon and contemporrary English.
@@julien1 No it isn't, it's more like Early Modern English and Modern English.
There are no contradictions in the Qur'an.
@@michealbadman6411 I stand corrected if wrong but how many English people are fluent in early modern, it may as well be like anglo saxon.
One of the best scholars of Islam. Always very refreshing to hear him... RESPECT!!!
Muhammad is the guy who married a 6 year old girl. He was close to 50 at the time.
You can refute the “anti-Muslim” accusation to a leftist like this.
Them: “You’re anti Muslim”
You: “What do you think of Nazism?”
Them: “I hate it.”
You: “So you hate Germans?”
Them: “No of course not.”
You: “So you can criticise Nazism without hating Germans?”
Them: “Yes.”
You: “So I can do the same for Islam and Muslims then.”
Them: 😮
A better conversation would be: “Do you hate the Germans living today for Nazism” Answer: “Of course not”. Do you hate the Germans who condoned and supported the Nazi regime and still do? Answer: “Yes”
I don't hate Muslim, I just can't comprehend trusting the word of Muhammad as truth cause Muhammad is a pedophile,murde rer,who loot and enslave human and turn woman to sex slaves. I would not trust a criminal regarding Go. And Muslim says Quran is a word of god and the proof of that is just trust me bro(trust Muhammad) trust that this angel gibril is a real angel of god and Allah is really the creator. Gibril maybe a demon or just made up by Muhammad and also Allah he might be a demon or a fragment of Muhammad's imagination
Robert is THE Hero of our time. You're looking well Mr. Spencer! ❤
PLEASE COME ON OUR LIVE SHOWS THANK YOU ua-cam.com/video/-QAUMHr31ag/v-deo.html&feature=share
Amen
Looking forward to Robert Spencer's revised M book & his new book!
@@endpc5166 yes agreed
If anyone sees that guy Sheik with the link above. Don't waste your tims with his link. Its a bunch of random muslims using bad information to try and do Dawah.
I was Muslim ones and I become Christian too now I become profoundly human.
Why leave one nonsense religion to join another nonsense religion?
Wait till he figures out the bible is not only plagerized but also highly if not completely erroneous and fictitious...
That'll be a fun day for him
@@RoyalKnightVIIIbetter believe in a God than to believe nothing created matter..so you believe in magic?
Welcome than😊
@@LucaBrasi7548 this is the issue, you think if I reject the bible and quran that entails i think no sentient being initiated the big bang. some people just claim they dont know so they wont lie to themselves. i dont know the truth and i dont care, because i dont think i will ever know the truth about the universe's origins and what happens after death. its almost as if abrahamic religions r just man made books that try and explain those questions we dont know and wont ever truly know the answer to. not only do i not know if a "god" exists, but i certainly dont think that if it is still alive at this exact moment, nor do i think it 100% would contact humans. i also think it is highly suspicious that the god from bible and quran has never "re-visted" earth since the dark ages. today, with science and tech, we r the best equipped we have ever been to demonstrate and share the veracity of an all-knowing, all-powerful being.
What an incredible, brilliant conversation. Thank you so much.
I have many of Robert Spencer’s books and had the pleasure of hearing him speak in person. All of his material is very factual and well researched, backed up with references and documentation.
Dude look at the hundreds of non Muslim records of Muhammad shortly after Muhammad died , I’m not Muslim but Muhammad definitely existed
robert is a having-head-cut-off-a-phobe
@@whatsgood4666 there's not hundreds of non muslim records. there's not even any muslim records. about 90 years later abdul malik mentioned Mohammad for the first time. and 150 after Mohammad the hadith were written down.
Comment Freely Muslims used oral tradition , but there are a lot of non Muslim records from Africa to China , read seeing Islam as others saw it
@@whatsgood4666 Would love to see these! Give specific references, please, so I can see them for myself.
I think Robert Spencer is a great and honest and intelligent man.I have the greatest admiration for his tenacity in his search of the truth about a religion.
If so, why afraid to call Christian prince a debate? We'll listen for the truth to come out..
Watch any Christian Muslim debate and judge for your self....James white himself got crashed by Shabir Ally...
@@mohammedamkor4748 DO NOT GET SMASHED OH JUDGEMENT DAY BY JESUS AND HIS SAINTS.
@@mayamurthy3824 Hi Maya... No need to write all in capital ( that is rude ) ... I love Jesus ... just like any other prophet who delivered the massage of oneness of God ( Allah ) ... God does not need a son or a daughter... There is nothing comparable to God Almighty.
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him.
@@mohammedamkor4748That may be the message of the Quran “ The oneness of God but it is Not the message that is spoken of right throughout the bible nor is it the message that Jesus preached .
Can't believe I ran across two of my heroes starting a conversation about data which I have argued about on Twitter and elsewhere. The conversation, I believe could be labeled historical. I believe I have seen many, many hour-long videos in which Dr.Jay Smith taught the historical Muhammad or the Quran. And I believe I have every book that Bob Spencer wrote. In fact, as I recall, he sent me one and I sent him mine in return. If anyone can pull this video up again , it is worth every second of listening--no punches were pulled and nothing left unsaid.
This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE THANKS Dr SMITH AND SPENCER, GOD BLESS
Thanks to both Dr. Smith and Robert Spencer. It was a great experience listening to you both.
Jay and Robert thanks for your work, the historical study of Islam and Muhammad is very interesting on its own right and shows another way in which Muslim claims completely fail when tested.
Jay, glad you brought Robert Spencer. Appreciate Him here. He is tooo valuable a person for humanity.
Jay, TIME STAMPS PLEASE!
God Bless Him.
I’ll put Spencer on my list of favorite teachers. Thanks for introducing him Jay👍🏻
Learn from muslims
I appreciate the versions of Truths expressed by Robert Spencer. May God Bless you Mr.Spencer! Good luck.
What an absolute pleasure to see both of these two beautiful faces on the one screen. I hang for every word you both are about to say as I sit in owe of how much The Holy Spirit is deeply entrenched in your minds and souls. Much love to the both of you.
Much love and respect for both men of God✊❤️
Where are you from Jamal? Pakistan or Afghanistan?
What?
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This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
I come from my reasoning rather than my beliefs.
Evidence is more important
Than belief.
People still believe that the earth is flat. You have to prove it is flat.
Thank you Spencer for the your time. Hats off to you.
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Great to see you two great men together conversing and sharing truths! 🙏🏼🇬🇧🇺🇸✝️⛪️
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@@mansoorahmedh4853 Challenge those two. Don't be a coward.
Robert is a hero and an absolute legend
Watching and Listening from Nairobi Kenya.
welcome guys kenya please record this video sent all you frients
Amen , let's educate the whole world on this✝💖🇺🇲
Poor Kenyan, dont fall for these lies, I am neutral, I can tell you these guys are full of lie and an embarrassment to academic field
@@htccht4111 butthurt abdul idiot, your muhmd was child rapist pedophilia bewitched man
@@htccht4111 , pls show your proofs man...
Be a man of the Truth , don't depend on what have you been heard from your emam or your known scholars with nothing dept proofs..
Sorry I missed the live stream. Robert was kind to me once. He gave me several of his books for my classroom. I’ve heard him dozens of times. I think he is right.
This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
Unfortunately Only blind follow Robert Spencer
@@hrargate only the blind follow Islam.
@@LogansWarning you wish
@@hrargate cry
Watched the whole show. An exciting survey of historical persons and events and the formation of the Quran and the Prophet Muhammad himself. Will look out for those two books.
Why is it taking so long? Wait till July? Is the publisher adverse, reluctant?
@@endpc5166 Publication does take time. Good things come for those who can wait. Look out also for Binimad Al-Ateeqi's 5-volume books for the latest story of Islam. Binimad was educated in the UK and USA as a military officer. He has found interesting old military maps of Mecca and its surrounding mountains and caves. Not clear if his studies are up to PhD level.
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This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
@@LogansWarning Prove it. Don't talk cock.
That was so good. They covered so much ground in just 60 minutes. Amazing! I agree with the assessments 100%.
Jay, I like the fact that every time you demolish Islam, you provide the genuine alternative, the Lord Jesus Christ.
We all know and love Robert Spencer😊
I'm a proud islamophobe
"islamophobe" probably not correct term. "phobia" mean near "afraid of" that has fear, right? or you have fear?
@@alexeyzhvalevskij7003 what do you expect from a term made by the Muslim Brotherhood?
Knowing history, knowing the truth.
This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
I think you are on to something
If history isn't forged and fabricated.
Really great to see the two of you together!!
32:30 On the Dome of the rock, have you considered the context of its construction (685-691) by abd alMalik during the time of his conflict with ibn alZubayr? For a time, the Kaaba was not accessible to those under abd alMalik's rule, whether in Petra or Mecca, so there would be a temptation to create a rival Kaaba (in similar thinking to Jeroboam and the temple being in Jerusalem, so he starts a new religion confined to the territories of the Northern kingdom).
With that in mind, what does the Dome of the Rock look like? It looks like it's built to be circumambulated, with plenty of space around it for people to do so - and it even has its own rock inside to venerate. Later, with ibn alZubayr eliminated (691), and the Kaaba accessible again even though displaced, the Dome of the Rock could be re-purposed.
There is no alla and mohammed except abdul malik and yusuf ahjaji
No Gladys .. there is an allah the nebatian god.
All the original masks are nebatian
The real Muhammad is Ilyas ibn Qabisah
Amazing men these 2 here on the video!! Thank you! :) You are a blessing, may our Lord bless you two!
Jay that was an excellent, fascinating conversation. You are a great interviewer - please do more like this!
God bless you guys for your faithfulness in the work He has entrusted to you.
Two great men telling the truth
Amen ✝️🕊🙏🏻
Muslims are afraid of these 2 men. They can not come up with an argument to challenge them.
@@hdl135605 not true
Two giants meet up fantastic to see you both !!!!!!
Two people that are destined for hell fire meet up.
@@RizwanAli-hp9jb destined for hell is crazy 🤪 that means they'll meet your prophet opps wait he never existed so who's really going to hell
@@RizwanAli-hp9jbellfire 😂😂😂😂😂 How stupid ! Hellfire is nothing but a pagan dogma Platonism to be exact , that priests used as a way to scare people, there is no such place .
I literally finished reading this book last night! I did find it a really compelling read and I didn't really want to put it down once I picked it up. I hear that a lot of the ideas and concepts of the book are disputed and I do keep hearing that scholars are constantly uncovering evidence that are consistently in line with the traditional narrative of Islamic history so... I don't know. All I can do is look at both sides of the arguments (seeing as there are reputable sources on both sides) and wait for more evidence to come out. The problem is that I'm from a Muslim background and the area I live in has religion embedded in it and so my natural bias is to go with the traditional narrative but, like I said, his book "Did Muhammad Exist?" did really open my eyes.
Fahim, what are some of the evidences you have seen or heard about which support the Traditional Account of Muhammad's life? I'd love to hear about them.
@@pfanderfilms Not sure if 'evidence' was really the correct word of me to use. But just one example, Professor Joseph Lumbard basically asserts that even the Sanaa manuscript doesn't show vastly different arabic textual variants that would effect the meaning (see link). He also says that the more manuscripts are found the more it affirms the traditional narrative.
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I'm not sure what evidence this is based on, however since I know nothing about any of this I'm not really in a position to disagree with him.
I'd love to hear any thoughts you have about the link!
@@fahimcan12345 I'm not sure how an 8th century manuscript of the Qu'ran (the Sana'a manuscript) supports the traditional narrative of Muhammad, since by that time Muhammad would have been well known, and the Qur'an would be in its infancy stages of being written. What's more, the Sana'a is only around 28% of the Qur'an, and is a palmimpsest, which means it has a lower layer of writing, and that lower layer has 60 verses, with over 70 differences in that layer with that of the upper layer. How can that be authoritative?
Looking forward to your reply to this, Jay. (Love your work)
@@pfanderfilms I saw a video recently from Dan Gibson about the historical Muhammad - I'd love to hear what you think about it (if you haven't seen it yet that is)
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I suppose the main flaw I can see in his video is that books such as Spencer's book don't necessarily claim that Muhammad didn't exist but rather that his life was greatly exaggerated and that he didn't necessarily have anything to do with the religion of Islam.
This is so educational. Thank you so much guys.
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Robert is the best!
Robert Spencer is an absolutely brilliant apologist !!
God bless Jay and Robert thank thank you for all of hard work you both have put in ,very enlighten
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Well, Jay, I have been looking forward to this for quite some time and boy did it live up to my expectations! I am glad that either by design or by accident the issue of Mohammad as a name vs. a sobriquet came up. I have been trying to find out if this word, as a name, existed prior to Islam. I couldn't find any examples in my research but as Dan Gibson keeps saying. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Robert Spencer made it clear, as a personal name it did not exist prior to Islam. That has always made sense to me. After all, what loving mother would name her kid: "The one worthy of praise". If that didn't earn him an unending series of wedgies from his classmates nothing would!
Now you and Robert Spencer have me champing at the bit for the next episode. May it be soon and may there never come a day when some far distant historian writes a book titled "Did Jay Smith and Robert Spencer Exist?"
Mohamed is Jesus written in Aramaic, but read in Arabic, look at this www.pinterest.com/pin/567805465492896829/ if you know Arabic alphabet you'll realize that it is Muhamed.., Very strange no ? Maybe Muhamed was trying to identify with Jesus somehow?
www.reddit.com/r/religion/comments/9jdmzx/jesus_in_aramaic_and_muhammad_in_arabic/ This site shows is better
@Hineni John3:16 not sure what's funny :) There's growing evidence that early arabs used Syriac gospels and stole content from them to write the Quran, so this might have inspired them when they came up with Muhammed.
Glad to listen to you both.
I followed you Both years ago and learned a lot.
It's amazing and great, listening to so much of research of Islam and Mohammad ! I am new addition to your audience, from India.
From India too 😊
@@yakovmatityahu 👍🙏
I am a follower of Chris hitchen
I think people should read him
And you will really know even more
Great work, Robert Spencer...
Wonderful to have the assurance that what I am learning is based on fact. I cannot thank you enough.
Wonderful job God bless you both👍🙏💖
Thank you Jay and Robert! From Scotland 🏴 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Superb analysis, gentlemen. And thankyou for your attention to detail.
Loved this interview! Can't wait to buy your work Dr. Spencer!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge sir. God bless you.
I have finally mastered Dr. Jays "whittling down" sound! Hahahahhahahaha!
I read the book back in 2012, I remember it being the gateway to Ibn Warraq's books which are the real deal.
Two fonts of knowledge I enjoy much, armed with facts and a dedication admirable.
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Really it’s fantastic study and revelation hats of to you guys
However many people listen to Robert Spencer, it is never enough.
Respect for you Robert 🦋
Thank you for all your work to discover the truth. I was decided in Iran to follow Islam. Your work has helped me to find the truth and follow true God.
that was fascinating i love hearing robert spencer talk .Surly the curtain is coming down for islam.thanks jay brother
PBWY. Respectfully the more Islam is 'exposed' the more people are embracing it! On an evidential plane Islam is the only comprehensive system (real not dreamy) from the Creator which can be accepted using reason, rationality and reasonableness on the back of evidence.
@@AllTruthRevealed And muslims are leaving islam too.
I'm gonna have to read this book now and more of this content.
Thank you Jay and Robert. Wow love your work.
What great ideas and insight enlightening discussion.christ bless you both.
Thank you so much Mr Spencer. Much love from the Maronites!
God Bless You Both
God bless robert an jay.
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Awesome thanks plenty for your amazing work 👍 God's Blessings
I'm waiting for a book which compares women's rights during the Roman, Byzantine/Greek, Persian, Egypt, Ethiopian, Jewish, Christian, Chinese, Hindu "jahilyya" eras, with Muslim women rights after Islam. I'm sure that'd be a shock to a Muslims' conscience.
Take time to read about Lingayats and the equal status women have that religion
PBWY. Please do and you will find Islam to be the truth in relation to Women's rights, Men's rights and also animal rights! That certainly would be a shock to your conscience.
@@AllTruthRevealed lol
@@dailytopvideos1190 Please share you humour.
@@AllTruthRevealed religion of peace.
Robert Spencer a great teacher 🔥
Loads of information to digest and learn👌👌
Thank you very much Dr. Jay for this master piece. I am from cameroon, wish to get your materials how can i proceed?
I like Robert's Smile.
Listening from Tanzania.
Watching from....nigeria.
Amazing work. Such scholarship, wow
Robert Spencer this is your great contribution and research to the world about the truth of Islam .
Love the content of your videos. I think if you could condense the content to 20 minutes or less. And break up the videos with longer times. You can get more traffic. Reach a broader audience. Just a suggestion.
We really need a full examination of the Sana’a documents , is there any chance of this happening ?
Yes, we will get to the Qur'an and the earliest manuscripts, in time.
Do share the video - it's good for discussion.
Magnificent ! More strength to your arm!
Interesting piece of work jay GBY♥️🙏
Thank you both so very much!
I can see why @32:31 is the most replayed...of course that's it....
This was way overdue! Please do more!
jay, robert, david n ap your the men!!!!!!
good work god bless you both
Oh, halleluYah!!
Jay Smith and Robert Spencer in one go.... GREAT!!
JAY SMITH IS THE HERO AND THE REAL CHRISTIAN ✝️ LEADER YOU HAVE THE LOVE AND SUPPORT FROM CHRISTIANS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
Great teaching
@40:00 the "Dome of the Rock" would have taken inspiration from the Church of St Procopius in Caesarea (province of Palestine) built in 484 AD. Also the "Golden House" church of Antioch (province of Syria) built 327 AD (finally destroyed by an earthquake in 588 AD) had the same eight sided layout, with an ambulatory around a central area. Capped with a domed roof.
Dear. Dr. Jay Smith... I have a Christian apologetic yt channel in Indonesian language. I would like to translate some of your videos to Indonesian language. Can I have your permission for that?
I think you need to send a message to his profile not on a comments page.
Hajar aja bro. Kalau ga salah dia suruh share kok di salah 1 videonya
Dr. Jay, thank you for this informative session. I heard that the writings on the walls of
Dome of the Rock is about Jesus Christ!? I would appreciate if you could make a short video about that in the near future. Thanks & God bless.
Jay Smith, Robert Spencer, David Wood, Sam Shamoun, Apostate Proohet, Hatun.
I am grateful to you all for helping me learn and understand more about debating or speaking with Muslims.
An hour well spent , exellent talk, just one critic Robert speak perfectly and i could understand evrything he said not the same with Dr J .Smith, he speak far to fast and for a poor 80 Y/old men like me it is to difficult to follow & understand him . I've been following you both for longtime & I thank you very much for your knowlege.& J.Smith you are legend at the speaker corner. THANK YOU BOTH MAY GOD BLESS-YOU . AMEN
3 years late here but here's a tip: on the video (bottom right corner) you can click "Settings", click "Playback Speed," and select .75 speed, in that way jay's fast speaking style will be slowed just enough for you to clearly understand him.
The truth hurts and the internet is destroying islam and helping Christianity. John 14:6
@@jrex3575he doesn't want to understand. Brainwashed
Stunning conversation.
I love the way you concluded. Jesus is a good example even for atheist. I watched your debate with Shabir Ally,I mean the last debate, He was decimated. God bless your works
This is for Robert ❤
Quran was written specifically to counter the Bible.
which was in the hands of Arabic speaking Jews, Nestorians, Nazarines (a sort of 'Christians'), Armenians and few others in Arabia according to Prof Sidney H Griffiths. See his book 'The Church in the Shadow of the Mosque. (Princeton University Press, 2008).
Lool, that means you clearly have not read or heard the quran
@@teefx5681 Comparative studies in progress for better understanding of how Islam evolved.
Which bible ? There is only one Qur'an and 4 different bibles , let alone those parts not considered in bible
@@Aliskangali there's more, 4 only canonised.
This was great, thank you.
I think the Muhammad of history, the original man who became the Muhammad of Islam, was one of the generals who led the first Arab conquest. Just like the Roman emperors were deified men, this general was already a hero. Abdel Malik transformed this general into a prophet.
@Daffy Someone did lead the Arabs to conquer vast territory during the traditional lifetime of Muhammad, so no, I'm not joking.
@buymebluepills Finally, someone agrees with me. All good lies are partially based on truth. Why? It makes them easier to tell. And more believable.
@buymebluepills I've called Muhammad the most human of all the prophets, perhaps because he was not really a prophet. He changed his mind daily. One day hateful toward some certain people. The next day accepting. The problem may be that Muslims do want to acknowledge him as a founder with human flaws, some serious, but as a perfect man. If they accepted the idea that their religion ewas for some people but not all and for some lands but not all land, the world would be better off and so would they. Then they could be accepting of a minority station outside their own lands and even accepting of people of their own ilk converting to another religion when the moved permanently to a land outside of their own.
If they accepted their geographical sway as of 1492 as the verdict of "nature and nature's god" as to what their lands were, we wouldn't have the issues we have today. As it is, these are very intransigent and also very manipulative people who can only be met by equal methods. No one else in the world has the will and the unity to do that except maybe the Red regime in China. Not that in the end Islam will succeed in its aim of world hegemony. But they cleary are willing to wreck productive civilizations and live the consequences of doing so in order to gain geographical sway. In that way, they do have a kind of integrity. Credit them for that compared to some other people who are willing wreck civilizations while imagining that they can still possess the good of the civilization they want to wreck. Either that, or who are incognizant of the fact that they are wrecking a civilization.
If you think you could be wrong. You have to be sure what you write is correct, not what you think is correct.
Robert Spencer is *excellent!*
A *true scholar!* He REALLY knows his stuff!
I pity any imam who goes up against him in a debate!
The word "Muhammad" isn't a NAME, it is a title- the GLORIOUS ONE. So what was his NAME? Every time we read the word "Muhammad" in our mind let's read "the Glorious One", and try to put a human being behind that title? Doesn't that word, Muhammad, describe the god of the Islamic Religion? I stand corrected- "The Praised One" should replace the glorious one 😁
REAL Tomb OF JESUS DOES NOT EXIST!! scientifically proven now its not from the time of christ " they killed him not"
'Tomb of Jesus not from the time of jesus was built 300yrs later only 1,700 Years | Live Science
www.livescience.com/61043-tomb-of-jesus-excavated.htmlMohamed in the Bible:
1)Deuteronomy 18:18-19
{I will raise a Prophet {like you} from their Brothers (Ismaeel)}. Mosses & Mohamed both born naturally. Both sent out from their homeland. Both married more than once. Both received Holy books (Torah & Quran) 📚 from Gabriel the Holy Spirit & Both died naturally.
2)Deuteronomy 33:2 {And he said: “The LORD came from Sinai (Mosses), And dawned on them from Seir mountain (Jesus); He shone forth from Mount Paran 🗻(Mohamed), And He came with ten thousands of saints (Companions); From His right hand Came a fiery law (Sharia Law) for them.}. This is Prophet Mohamed opening Macca with 10,000 Companions!!!
3)John 16:12 {I have many more things to say to you, but you can’t bear them now!!!} You can’t bear them now in 33 AD but in 570 AD when Prophet Mohamed is born if God day is 1,000 year hence, he came after half day!!!
4)John 16:13 {But when He, The Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide you into all the Truth, He will not (speak) on his own initiative, but whatever he (hears), He will (Speak), and He will disclose to you what is to come.} Prophet Mohamed informed us in 12 hr speech all coming events until we enter Paradise!!! If Holy Spirit he doesn’t have initiative and another Holy Spirit tell him what to say!!!
If Holy Spirit why he didn’t say that rather than He 6 times!!? Holy Spirit or Ghost we say (It) not (He 6 times). He shall (speak) not reveal!!! Is Holy Ghost has mouth like Casper!!? Any Christian have a record of Holy Spirit (Speeches & Prophecies)!!!?
5)Solomon Songs 5:16 in Hebrew Mahamedem The em is added for respect like Allah is Allahem or Elohem. In Semitic languages Mohamed is 4 letters only like MHMD محمد from right to left!!! Mohamadem was translated in English to ALL LOVELY!!! How can you translate names!!?
6)Isaiah 42:11 House of Kidar 2nd Son of Ismaeel (Genesis 25:13) is Quraish & Kaba 🕋 where Prophet Mohamed was born. Kedar is his Great Grandfather. Sela سلع is mountain in Madinah ⛰next to Prophet Mohamed Mosque 🕌!!! Call of Prayer is the only one to say Raise their (Voice) Adhan 🔊!!! Jews use Horns and Christian use Bells 🔔 !!!
7)Gensis 21:17-21 Angel Gabriel find water 💦 well but deleted its name ZamZam as it is 20 meters from Kaba🕋 in Paran desert in Valley of Baca as it is called in Bible & Quran or Maca. God blessed Ismael & promised him fruitful & Great Nation!!! Who is Great Nation other than Muslims!!! Quran say footprint 👣 of Abraham next to Kaba🕋 is Clear Evidences.
8)Psalm 84:6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca as mentioned in Quran is Macca. In order to forge it they translate Baca the noun with capital to Valley of Weeping in Jordan!!! But where is the water well 💦 in Genesis 17:17-21!!! They deleted the name of the Holy well Zam Zam as it is 20 meters from Kaba🕋!!! It is producing water 💦from (5,000 years) time of Abraham until now and with quality that Professor Emoto from Japan issued 5 Books on the (Miracles of water) and its crystals that is different than any water on earth!! It is Alkaline to kill all germs 🦠 and viruses 🦠!!
9)Isaiah 29:12 Give the Book 📖 to the Unlearnt and told him (Read) and He will say (I am not Learnt). This is the first word and verse of the Holy Quran in cave of Heraa and that was the response of Prophet Mohamed PBUH said (I am not Learnt)!!!!
10)Luke 6:40 Jesus said we as student should learn from our Muslim Teacher 👨🏫 . The word (Mushlam) in Hebrew was deleted in translation from Hebrew to English by fraud!!!
11)Luke 34:36 Jesus said (Shalom Alikum) Peace on You or (Salam Alikm) Islam Greetings.
12)John 14:16 {And I will ask the Father, and he will give you (another) advocate to help you and be with you forever}. Note (another) do you have two Holy Spirit!!! Some translate the word as (Comforter). Since he used to call Belal to raise Call of Prayer (Comfort us with it Belal). He established prayer in his ascension to meet God after 7 Sky and Gabriel could not proceed to the Chair and Throne and his conversation with God we say it in all our prayers Tashahd. However, The original word in Aramaic is (Parkletus) The praised one Ahmed/Mohamed!!!
13)He is also the (Chosen One) مصطفى ومختار. Huios in Aramaic that was translated (Son) instead of (Chosen One) in Acts 3:13!!! Paida (Servant) was also translated (Son) in Acts 3:26!!!
14)Isaiah 21:13 Revelation from the Arab Land. In the forest of Arabia (Madinah) you will lodge!!! Prophet Mohamed will stay in Madinah. In fact 3 Jewish tribes immigrated to Madinah as they knew from this verse the next Prophet will stay there.
15)Isaiah 21:14 Here Son of Ismael Timaa who established Tmeem تميم tribe in Madinah gave him water and bread to Prophet Mohamed who (fled) from swords and bows of Macca pagans.
16)Isaiah 21:15 The immigration of Prophet Mohamed with Abu Bakr escaping from 40 men (drawn swords)⚔️ to kill Prophet Mohamed at his house in Macca and swords and bows 🏹 that followed him during immigration.
17)Isaiah 21:16 God said within one year of immigration in (Badr Battle) the Glory of Kedar (Quraish)
Shall fail in front of all tribes as Prophet Mohamed defeated them.
18)Isaiah 21:17 The residue of the number of archers 🏹of the mighty men of Kedar (Quraish) are diminished as God has spoken. Muslims killed in battle of Badr 70 of Quraish mighty leaders and took another 70 as POW and that God sent 5,000 angels to fight with them as they were only 313 (Number of God Messengers & number of initial believers of Mahdy this year) and Quraish were 1,000. This battle was the first victory of the one year Islamic State!!! Many tribes entered Islam after this Battle.
19)Mathew 21:43 {Therefore, I tell you the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.}.
(Great Nation & fruitful Genesis 17:20 & 21:18) Ismael/Muslims.
20) Chronicles 6:32
The foreigner (Prophet Mohamed) who is not from your people Israel, when he comes from far country for Your Great Names (99 names), when they come and pray towards this house (KABA) 🕋 in far country (Saudi/ Macca)!!!
@@sheik74hamid46 I'll refer you to Christian Prince for a discussion. I believe you got what it's take to reason with him.
His name is khuthab
@@rajanbada3138 So why doesn't the Qur'an SAY this? Hahahhahah! Islam has God's name wrong AND Muhammads name wrong!
@@sheik74hamid46 No matter how you try to destroy Jesus, (which your Qur'an confirms) it doesn't CHANGE the fact that ISLAM SUCKS!
i think Robert have some good points
I missed the livestream :(