After Four Years, Project M is Changing

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
  • The official Project Plus Twitter account confirmed last month that a new patch was coming soon for the premier Super Smash Bros. fan mod. This quick, semi-unscripted video by Tuck takes a look back over the past 4 years of P+ 2.0, briefly examining some of the most dominant and noteworthy characters in the meta - ones to keep an eye on for changes when this patch drops.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:36 The risers to the top
    4:55 The biggest buffs
    7:55 Nerfs can’t stop these characters
    10:25 Characters we stopped seeing
    12:33 Outro
    #smashbros #projectplus #supersmashbros
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  • @ordeosca
    @ordeosca 8 днів тому +261

    it's insane that my whole lifespan of playing this game has been on one patch, excited for what the future holds!

    • @SaltInYourEye_ICs
      @SaltInYourEye_ICs 8 днів тому +7

      There nuking ICs. It’s like would war three for us ICs sweats. 😭😭😭, exited for ICs new stuff

  • @Nin10doh98
    @Nin10doh98 8 днів тому +131

    My only real concern with P+ going forward is the stages. Because good god did some of y'all choose real stinkers that are way too boring and overall not enough variety.

    • @theespicypotato
      @theespicypotato 8 днів тому +37

      I second this, stagelist variety was one of the most compelling reasons for me to quit ult and switch to this

    • @xtinaxendrix
      @xtinaxendrix 8 днів тому +27

      fr smashville is so boring legalize rainbow cruise

    • @exclamation744
      @exclamation744 8 днів тому +23

      Wait, you don't love a stage list of basically just two-plat stages? Everyone at the top level does!

    • @vwtdi1579
      @vwtdi1579 8 днів тому +12

      Wario-ware and green hill are great stages. Maybe adjust the blastzones on those 2, but I would also add Pokemon transformations (keeping frozen too) because big melee tournaments have it too.

    • @Nin10doh98
      @Nin10doh98 8 днів тому +6

      @@exclamation744 King Boo ain’t cooking shit

  • @purcellworthman3199
    @purcellworthman3199 8 днів тому +82

    it sure would be cool if they FINALLY got around to finishing Lyn!

    • @runaway74
      @runaway74 8 днів тому +2

      I was thinking this!!

    • @illford6921
      @illford6921 8 днів тому +15

      Not happening they said multiple times on the FAQ page that outside of Knuckles no one is getting added

    • @bkebradley
      @bkebradley 7 днів тому +3

      Super lame they aren't doing Isaac either

    • @RockyTheThird
      @RockyTheThird 7 днів тому

      @@bkebradley A lot of problems comes from people relying solely on Project+ for those characters. I've talked with PMDT and P+ devs about the rest of the forbidden 4 but it ultimately comes down to "they don't have the resources/time and aren't interested". Which is fine, P+ has benefited the game in way more ways than just characters.
      When it comes to Isaac, Lyn, and Sami legit all is needed are people to volunteer to help work on them. I've spent the last 5+ years studying the game and modeling software with the goal of completing the cast and I do a pretty dang good job contributing. Would highly recommend channeling that energy into motivation

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 5 днів тому +5

      ​@@bkebradleywhole new characters take enormous amounts of work. Isaac was super duper weird though and i would have liked to see it

  • @kylecarlon6800
    @kylecarlon6800 8 днів тому +99

    I was sad I kept getting bodied in the clips but you had my dope ass combo on Zoey so it’s redeemed :)

    • @pkzStar
      @pkzStar 8 днів тому +5

      happy birthday man 🎉

    • @kylecarlon6800
      @kylecarlon6800 8 днів тому +5

      @@pkzStar thank u for ur service 🫡

    • @CannibalSerb
      @CannibalSerb 8 днів тому +5

      You leaving was content creator's worst nightmare, wolf is such a good combo video character

    • @kylecarlon6800
      @kylecarlon6800 8 днів тому +4

      @@CannibalSerb I will stick to my 3ish events per year and do my part 🫡

    • @Hack--rz1io
      @Hack--rz1io 8 днів тому

      @@kylecarlon6800 That's awesome man ♡

  • @_fudgepop01
    @_fudgepop01 8 днів тому +70

    > it's unknown whether PNT is able to be fixed...
    haha yeahhhh I still occasionally feel bad about my last attempt at doing so giving nana a lobotomy LMAO

    • @Hope4NewDay1
      @Hope4NewDay1 8 днів тому +3

      Fudge you already know what you have to do the real question is... Are you willing to do it?

    • @echospace7347
      @echospace7347 8 днів тому +2

      Cool content btw!

    • @zKenshi
      @zKenshi 2 дні тому +1

      It got patched out based on patch notes.
      “PNT C-stick and buffered methods removed”

    • @_fudgepop01
      @_fudgepop01 День тому

      @@zKenshi I know (and knew as a dev team member ahahah) - it's best to allow for speculation so I didn't say whether or not it IS GOING TO BE fixed!~
      But tbh this proper fix wasn't done by me, but instead by some other team members :D

    • @zKenshi
      @zKenshi День тому

      @@_fudgepop01 Pretty cool. Just randomly curious, how come 4 years between the updates? Grouping the progress altogether or all took a break? Either way, outstanding job!

  • @bbatts523
    @bbatts523 7 днів тому +41

    You had to use that Ganon clip....didn't you....

  • @EclipseKirby
    @EclipseKirby 8 днів тому +18

    This brings me back. I retired from this game forever ago and haven't payed much attention to PM/P+ in quite a while, but it's cool to see how things have changed since I played. Maybe I'll get back into it

    • @echospace7347
      @echospace7347 8 днів тому

      I’m going to start playing as a result of this video and honestly I’d advise you do so too!

    • @GetOffMyLog
      @GetOffMyLog 6 днів тому +2

      I've been playing exclusively melee since the pandemic and I just got back into P+ three weeks ago and I'm have SO MUCH FUN. I'm trash rn and trying to learn a new character and I'm still having a great time

  • @ShinyGBZ
    @ShinyGBZ 8 днів тому +60

    haven't played or seen a peach in my whole life in this game and learning she has an aerial down b command grab was so fucking cool, and hearing it sucks complete ass because it's a hitgrab and loses to shield is hilarious

  • @neilssbm
    @neilssbm 8 днів тому +11

    poor bbatts he looked so flustered by that ganon uptilt

  • @borkbork9541
    @borkbork9541 8 днів тому +7

    Meta aside, I'm looking forward to any and all surprises they might have in store

  • @vwtdi1579
    @vwtdi1579 8 днів тому +16

    Morsecode has consistently won or placed high and samus is considerd mid-low tier.
    Outside of balance changes, i just want a better stagelist that will be comitted too. I dont want such drastic regional differences unless its for side events.

  • @HasXXXInCrocs
    @HasXXXInCrocs 8 днів тому +18

    Rollback when???

  • @mawwwkWI
    @mawwwkWI 8 днів тому +4

    great recap of the last 4 years and one of the best P+ content pieces i've seen. nice work 🙂

    • @echospace7347
      @echospace7347 8 днів тому

      I’m gonna play because of it this looks so cool

  • @WombatFights
    @WombatFights 7 днів тому +2

    An extra bit of info for Squirtle: the hitbox and range of water gun were also buffed. That move was practically unusable in 3.6

  • @EastCoastBaja
    @EastCoastBaja 8 днів тому +7

    I love Zubat, but I still think there's room for Yoshi to grow with or without nerfs to everyone that *needs* them LOL hopefully I'll get out to more stuff or at least get back into the lab to help develop the dino some more. Great video!

  • @xtinaxendrix
    @xtinaxendrix 8 днів тому +18

    3.0 patch predictions (watch this spot!)
    -peach float duration reduced to 1 second
    -peach dash attack strong hitbox removed
    -peach neutral air startup 3f -> 5f
    -kirby aerial hammer invulnerable for first 6 frames

    • @_fudgepop01
      @_fudgepop01 День тому

      Nope! Peach's buffs were just her DSpecial, and kirby got tweaked in other ways

  • @SoulOfficer
    @SoulOfficer 8 днів тому +1

    great video henry, your narration is very nice and the structure of this video ruled :3

  • @_Majunior
    @_Majunior 8 днів тому +2

    Very nice video. I have no knowledge on the p+ meta whatsoever do this was pretty interesting

  • @DelanHaar6
    @DelanHaar6 8 днів тому +1

    Looking forward to what changes may come!

  • @patrickrolens
    @patrickrolens 8 днів тому +12

    👏NERF👏TOON👏LINK👏

  • @jedisquidward
    @jedisquidward 8 днів тому +2

    It's sad to say I'm not nearly as familiar with P+ as I am with PM 3.6, but it's great to see it continue to be a game full of wackiness and creativity. It's nice to see the most meta-relevant characters be such out-there ones that you wouldn't typically think of.

  • @ErazerPhazer
    @ErazerPhazer 4 дні тому +1

    Man this game has gone through so much since 2014...

  • @369destroyer
    @369destroyer 4 дні тому +1

    I wonder if anyone remembera that Sami was planned for Project M alongside Knuckles, Lyn, and Isaac

  • @fingerstripespm
    @fingerstripespm 8 днів тому +2

    Fantastic video tuck!

  • @Matanumi
    @Matanumi 8 днів тому +7

    better be damn careful- nerf enough of the game and you will split the already small fanbase.
    people react worse to nerfs then they do parsing buffs.

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 6 днів тому +1

      I stopped playing when P+ nerfed certain characters instead of buffing others. Removing the bayonet hitbox was just unacceptably ridiculous.

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 5 днів тому

      ​@@yourdaganwhat a baby
      Finding the appropriate place to balance is more important than keeping your widdle feelings coddled. Wolf is still amazing. High tiers don't need that kind of privilege

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 5 днів тому

      People reacting worse to nerfs hamstrung PM development and kept them from just making the best game possible

  • @hydra4370
    @hydra4370 8 днів тому +6

    Can we just stop for a second and think about how we got minecraft but not another sonic character 💀

    • @Supersonic37838
      @Supersonic37838 8 днів тому +2

      Or how we got another xenoblade character or a FF character?

    • @Brob2nd
      @Brob2nd 3 дні тому

      Xenoblade only had *1* character tho

    • @Supersonic37838
      @Supersonic37838 3 дні тому

      @@Brob2nd Shulk, Pythra

    • @Brob2nd
      @Brob2nd 3 дні тому

      @@Supersonic37838 i said 'had' for a reason, now it's 3 Xenoblade characters, which i think is enough Xenoblade characters, Sonic still deserves more characters tho

    • @Supersonic37838
      @Supersonic37838 3 дні тому

      @@Brob2nd Dang I’m a dragon ball fan and it’s true, Yeah sonic deserves more justice man. Also happy Sonic’s 33th anniversary.

  • @CassiusStelar
    @CassiusStelar 7 днів тому +2

    I'm probably the only person in the world to use this mod for single player, I just hope they fix subspace Emissary, it soft locks after that one Diddy Kong and Fox stage

    • @fl0wm0ti0n3
      @fl0wm0ti0n3 6 днів тому +5

      I’m not 100% sure but I think they fixed it in the last update

  • @superflameking03
    @superflameking03 4 дні тому

    Anyone think there's any chance of seeing completely new content in this next update (like new stages or characters)? Chances might be low, but it could be fun tho. That's a great way to make sure everyone's talking about it.

  • @Sadahiko312
    @Sadahiko312 6 годин тому

    As someone who used to play Project M back almost a decade ago: Nice

  • @cloudstrife5175
    @cloudstrife5175 3 дні тому

    Really hope that if P+ ever gets a 3.0 version Lyn gets added!

  • @TheDomlax
    @TheDomlax 8 днів тому +1

    Amazing video as aways

  • @Shadowhawke75
    @Shadowhawke75 8 днів тому +4

    GREAT VIDEOO

  • @alphachillua8228
    @alphachillua8228 8 днів тому +5

    got recced this vid and as an ike main hearing that hes actually good somewhere... i may have to play this game now

    • @_fudgepop01
      @_fudgepop01 8 днів тому

      If you need a mod for the CPUs that adds custom smart behavior and the like hit me up - ShinyZubat (the Yoshi main mentioned) can vouch for it!~

    • @griffendesai2039
      @griffendesai2039 2 дні тому

      He’s so fucking sick in p+. It’ll ruin every other smash game for you.

  • @Yeheah
    @Yeheah 3 години тому

    I know that P+ team are against it, but I think that the only thing that this mod needs (apart for those good things like physics delay fix) is more custom characters.
    Imagine a new trailer where they announce Dark Samus or Sceptile fighters in P+.

  • @Hope4NewDay1
    @Hope4NewDay1 8 днів тому +4

    AYE SHOUTOUTS TO ANTHER. FREE THE HOMIE!

  • @echospace7347
    @echospace7347 8 днів тому

    I’m gonna start playing this game. This looks SOOO fun

  • @Roanoke884
    @Roanoke884 8 днів тому +5

    HFR

  • @echospace7347
    @echospace7347 8 днів тому

    Wow!

  • @jpc7795
    @jpc7795 2 дні тому +1

    The bounty is still up for a slippi like online platform for this game. SOMEBODY PLEASE GET ON IT.

    • @javi994
      @javi994 2 дні тому +1

      They’ve been on it for the last 2 years

  • @laneuwu1660
    @laneuwu1660 7 днів тому

    0:58 thats my local!

  • @hassoncarmon5779
    @hassoncarmon5779 3 дні тому

    I just want meta knight's side special and neutral special to have more combo capabilities.

  • @esoteric7990
    @esoteric7990 6 днів тому

    I actually really dislike the attack to tilt stick change P+ did
    It was a big part of my neutral game with Bowser able to do instant crouch cancel jabs out of run as well as mixups on contact

  • @DrunkenHotei
    @DrunkenHotei 6 днів тому

    This is great and all, but what I'm really chomping at the bit for is brawlback.

  • @okcool9898
    @okcool9898 8 днів тому +1

    I think that P+ will only blow up when it receives Rollback plus Ingame Matchmaking. I am from europe and i have the impression that outside of the US there aint really a community for this mod. I like it a lot tough

  • @DIce_PPlus
    @DIce_PPlus 7 днів тому

    I really wish the stagelist could be unified, and NOT be the Midwest stagelist. Honestly loved PMBR and would take that every single day of the week over Midwest rn lol

    • @DIce_PPlus
      @DIce_PPlus 7 днів тому

      Ik a new patch won’t just “solve” this, but I wish we could just go back/allow for stages to not just be middle 3

  • @johnleecooper8520
    @johnleecooper8520 7 днів тому

    yall you can cc uptilt without tilt stick it is so free

  • @Freeraining-og7uh
    @Freeraining-og7uh 3 дні тому

    My recommendation is you should make Falco not a full clone like fox and give him back his original special reflect he had in brawl.

    • @javi994
      @javi994 2 дні тому

      That move was trash 😂

  • @Kushina-43
    @Kushina-43 6 днів тому

    Aw no mention of bowser? I haven't really played P+ and I really should soon, but seeing him in low B is really nice

  • @JoeSmith-db4rq
    @JoeSmith-db4rq 8 днів тому +1

    Ok but where my Zelda buffs at though!!!

  • @exxitzero
    @exxitzero 7 днів тому +1

    Dear Project+ Dev Team:
    -Please buff Luigi and Dedede
    that is all

  • @Jaytheone369
    @Jaytheone369 6 днів тому +1

    If they nerf sonic in quitting

  • @AllBladesCut
    @AllBladesCut 8 днів тому +1

    Rip sonic Again

  • @loganmadface5425
    @loganmadface5425 8 днів тому +2

    I have never played P Plus before, does it have rollback?

    • @pi2z806
      @pi2z806 8 днів тому +23

      Not yet but it's in development

    • @YangyChaddyDad
      @YangyChaddyDad 8 днів тому

      ​@@pi2z806as soon as it's released I'm there

    • @Nin10doh98
      @Nin10doh98 8 днів тому +4

      I’d say it’s now a matter of “when” rather than “if”, so keep an ear out for Brawlback and/or WhiteTPoison updates. I’m thinking/hoping either towards the end of the year or maybe beginning of next year.

    • @DreamcastSoup
      @DreamcastSoup 8 днів тому

      ​@@pi2z806is this by the team itself?

    • @echospace7347
      @echospace7347 8 днів тому +1

      It still has great internet so I’m going to play it

  • @YURTZYN42
    @YURTZYN42 5 днів тому

    my friends keep telling me to get into P+ and I think its great, but it keeps updating and going through patches. I like getting into a game after it stops updating so I can make the most sense of it and so that my muscle memory doesn't betray me later on as the game ages. Until then I'll just keep watching this game be played.

    • @javi994
      @javi994 2 дні тому +1

      This is the first major balance patch for the game in like 4 years
      The other patches were mostly bug fixes and cosmetic changes

  • @ilikepizza107
    @ilikepizza107 8 днів тому

    Fire video big dog

  • @LylatKnight
    @LylatKnight 7 днів тому

    I hope overall performance is improved. This sucker crashed on me if I did so little as look at my Wii funny.

  • @miguelsi7543
    @miguelsi7543 8 днів тому +2

    👀

  • @illford6921
    @illford6921 2 дні тому

    They did indeed fix PNT

  • @tracystallworth1239
    @tracystallworth1239 2 дні тому

    Ah shit here we go again

  • @miiguel3550
    @miiguel3550 6 днів тому

    If they finished Isaac my life would be complete

  • @leelandjamison7598
    @leelandjamison7598 4 дні тому +1

    Based video

  • @DrCoeloCephalo
    @DrCoeloCephalo 7 днів тому

    My favorite is Wario.
    Glad he is still good.
    I sincerely hope Jigglypuff gets more to work with so she us not just a worse Wario.
    I also hope that they plan on adding more new characters and if that ends up being the case, I sincerely hope Waluigi comes next. The custom Waluigi movesets have come such a long way.

  • @mrh1324
    @mrh1324 7 днів тому +1

    I wonder if they will make dedede good

    • @javi994
      @javi994 2 дні тому

      Everyone’s good 😂

  • @Knuxsega
    @Knuxsega 8 днів тому +1

    Commenting for the algorithm

  • @ChamAramis
    @ChamAramis 7 днів тому

    After four years, *Project Plus** is changing.

    • @javi994
      @javi994 2 дні тому

      They’ve been releasing updates for those 4 years

  • @Padthai_Shrimp
    @Padthai_Shrimp День тому

    Comeon roll back

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 18 годин тому

      it’s coming, just not soon

  • @herbmaaster
    @herbmaaster 3 дні тому

    where is LYN?

  • @michaellee7630
    @michaellee7630 День тому

    its out

  • @Cherrynasb
    @Cherrynasb 8 днів тому +4

    Holy freak I'm ready
    WOO STANG0

  • @Mech-HDR
    @Mech-HDR 2 дні тому

    3.0 is here and it hasn't really changed but knuckles can't kill as early
    and luigi buffs :(

    • @Brob2nd
      @Brob2nd 2 дні тому

      Wdym with luigi buffs

  • @Bizzone_
    @Bizzone_ 3 дні тому

    Yeah, idc i always come back to the project m community 🤝

  • @t3amtomahawk
    @t3amtomahawk 5 днів тому

    Standing by for Dedede nerfs Kappa

  • @sauzeefy
    @sauzeefy 7 днів тому

    no ICs nerf pls

  • @kevinascate1281
    @kevinascate1281 8 днів тому +3

    DDD could easily move up 10 spots up the tier list if a top player learned his proper combos and entered majors with him.

    • @isucc724
      @isucc724 8 днів тому +1

      why does it always have to be someone else instead of yknow, you? if you really think he can go that high up, you might as well prove it

  • @Basement_Ckickn
    @Basement_Ckickn 8 днів тому +21

    somehow i’m not surprised that a fan mod of brawl that hasn’t seen updates for 4 years has a better competitive state than the Nintendo-liscenced ultimate, with balance patches for 2 years and frequent content updates and DLCs.

    • @dragnjames2190
      @dragnjames2190 8 днів тому +3

      The Ult balance team doesn't have all the time in the world that the most popular fan modded version of Brawl devs have.
      PM has been worked on, patched and maintained by the balance team through multiple iterations since the first PM demo in fucking 2011. In contrast, the Ult dev team has a time limit on their projects and have to move on to bigger and better projects.
      After Sora's release, the balancing team dissolved and went to work on Tekken 8. They can't keep working on Ult forever.

    • @Andycandyman24
      @Andycandyman24 8 днів тому +1

      @@dragnjames2190 agreed although i wish they colud work on Ult forever.

    • @echospace7347
      @echospace7347 8 днів тому +1

      @@dragnjames2190Tekken 8?!

  • @akumoth8357
    @akumoth8357 7 днів тому

    gib dedede buffs

  • @seanboglio3605
    @seanboglio3605 2 дні тому

    samanthude

  • @StarWalker-si4nm
    @StarWalker-si4nm 8 днів тому

    I hope knuckles does not get nerfed I fucking love that Knuckles is good 😂

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 5 днів тому

      Being weakness-less and having top tier strengths on top of that is not good character design

    • @javi994
      @javi994 2 дні тому

      @@freddiesimmons1394sounds like 3.02 😂

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 2 дні тому

      @@javi994 rip broken ass sonic etc

  • @Nadamoor
    @Nadamoor 7 днів тому

    Give Kirby his 64 uptilt. Do it you cowards

  • @Heyim18bro
    @Heyim18bro 7 днів тому

    buff pikachu and i'll be happy

  • @lilCork100
    @lilCork100 8 днів тому

  • @gbpstudios
    @gbpstudios 8 днів тому +1

    Can we get waluigi?

    • @DreamcastSoup
      @DreamcastSoup 8 днів тому +1

      Look up project m remix, he's in that

    • @gbpstudios
      @gbpstudios 8 днів тому

      @@DreamcastSoup I know but it would be cool if he was in an official build

  • @jiyucy
    @jiyucy 5 днів тому

    buff Luigi

  • @glenc0
    @glenc0 8 днів тому +12

    Give me Lyn please let me cheat with a dlc character.

    • @DreamcastSoup
      @DreamcastSoup 8 днів тому +1

      Knuckles, he's op

    • @glenc0
      @glenc0 8 днів тому +1

      @@DreamcastSoup yeah but he's cringe. Gimme something I can work with

  • @BronzeAgePepper
    @BronzeAgePepper 6 днів тому

    Pikmon is just crazy good. Not sure if he still does but I know at one point he lived in this pretty secluded part of Washington state, I lived nearby and would see him whenever I went to locals back in the PM 3.6 and Sm4sh years. I could never work up the nerve to ask if he wanted to hang out and practice 1-on-1, but he probably would've said no, not out of meanness but just because the dude is just on a whole other level I couldn't come close to. Been so many years since I ever saw him after I left the state, and he's only made even more of a name for himself since.

  • @MrShadowmario666
    @MrShadowmario666 7 днів тому +1

    1:38 thats a guy 🤢

  • @Beastmd
    @Beastmd 8 днів тому +1

    Please just give link back his gale boomerang

  • @BullCraftMaxx
    @BullCraftMaxx 8 днів тому +1

    Shame Nintendo won’t let this game be played at tournaments anymore 😢

    • @runaway74
      @runaway74 8 днів тому +2

      I play it at tournaments every week lol

  • @DadAsHeckk
    @DadAsHeckk 8 днів тому +1

    let's go they're deleting sonic

  • @mia_2043
    @mia_2043 4 дні тому

    delete ZSS 🙏

  • @KrispyKorpse
    @KrispyKorpse 8 днів тому +1

    Risky posting this on the day of a direct, you might attract the nintendo ninjas lol

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 8 днів тому +3

      they don't give a shit because its nothing smash related coming out anymore

  • @AllStarKingD
    @AllStarKingD 8 днів тому

    People still play Project M? I thought it was cancelled.

  • @cosmosspacecentertelevision
    @cosmosspacecentertelevision 3 дні тому

    clickbait title

    • @javi994
      @javi994 2 дні тому +1

      Is it really? ua-cam.com/video/zhJrTM7r1tE/v-deo.htmlsi=mha0ZQrXTZK5hRP7