D2R My Fav Builds - 2 Handed Vengeance/Conviction Paladin (Traitor!)
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2024
- Hello Guys and Gals Today I am talking about one of my Fave Builds, D2R My Fav Builds - 2handed Vengeance/Conviction Paladin (Traitor)
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Im really enjoying your channel. Its really opened my eyes to the technical aspects of the game. Ive learned so much about the game that i didnt know in the past. Keep up the good work. Great channel
I am thoroughly enjoying all of the d2 series videos. Thanks GGM, keep it up!
Love your off-meta builds. Nice series!
Gonna try it out, I always loved 2 handed palladin
This may be my favourite paladin build EVER
Gotta try it ASAP 😂
This has always been the kind a character I've wanted to play!
Gonna try out this build soon!
That throne room entrance at 28:30 is iconic! 😂Love your reaction and great workthru there with this build haha
Ambush!!
Avenger is my favorite build, but I was afraid to commit to two-handed weapons. Thank you for showing me the light!
Ive done the math. 2h ebotd thunder maul is actually the best weapon for vengeance. This is because each elemental damage type is rolled alongside the physical damage.
The problem with thunder mauls is that huge difference between its min and max damage( something like 258-1390). But because vengeance rolls 4 different damage types you have 4 chances to roll the highest top end melee damage in the game.
Also because the tmaul has high base phy damage it allows ur phys damage to remain competitive without phys based gear.
Downside, you need a faith merc.
2H zeal paladin that becomes death is also a lot of fun. Having fun charging around with a big 2H 🗡️ specializing in trav runs.
Ginger is non meta. Love the variety. Keeps it fresh
Cool build
I’m running an avenger pally on my current HC SSF single player run and was thinking the thorns build was cool until I saw the deaths in there lol
Conversion is an absolute must but thanks ill leave my merc to use her insight bow for now😅
😂
The defense reduction aspect of Conviction and Inner Sight stacks... so most of what you are fighting has a very low defense which helps a lot. With a high enough Conviction you can actually get most monsters defense down to zero when stacking those two skills. Neat build.
Bosses are half so you still need some AR to have a good hit rate on bosses.
Thus the enchant, and nearly 10k AR.
I also don't like the pulse frequency of Conviction. Many times you will approach a pack and miss miss miss while you wait for conviction to apply on it's own pulse frequency which is 2-3 seconds.
@@GGMentor Yep I considered that about the bosses and agree that having the high Attack Rating is a good idea.
I never really noticed the pulsing with Conviction but that makes sense!
Man you really outdid yourself with this build Ginger. I am having so much fun with it i got my Paladin to lvl 89 and it is so busted in some places. Thanks for sharing !
During tougher fights I rely on Conversion heavily. And while we are on this topic I have a question for you cause i don't know if it's a bug or a feature. After I convert an enemy during my Terror Zone runes and he goes back to his "enemy" state...he gets one shotted with anything. Like literally i can kill him with him having full health with my fist. Is this normal? Is this like a weird bug?
Noticed it too, not sure why. Done monsters that deconvert are one shots.
Glad you're enjoying the build
Vamp Gaze is also a great choice for Helm due to its high DR and low str req
I was using that earlier in the ladder, the lack of resistances was hard. but the DR was nice.
Rockstopper was a better choice early on as it had Resists and DR
you forgot to mention that the added damage on war travs does not get "converted" to elemental damage on vengeance, only min/max dmg stuff like on charms and jools. Instead of conversion, give merc delirium helmet. I also tend to use rings with dim vision charges, when running builds that does not rely on curses to deal damage
Gigachad pally's learn after fighting for so long that a shield is pointless. It causes you to do less damage. Be less holy in your fight against the daemon smiting evil from the world. You only use a shield because you are scared in your own ability. Once you control fear and realize nothing can stop you in your holy purge. Then you battle with giant slabs of iron barely held with two hands. A shield holds you back its a crutch, there is no need to block when you turn everything to paste in one hit. Just being around you sets the air on fire lightening to fall from the sky or powerful strange energy radiates from your body. No need to block or have a shield when everything dies/suicides as soon as you look at it.
Really enjoyed your description! Awesome and inspiring! I’ve now decided I’m not gonna wear a seatbelt anymore!
Sounds like Chris metzen wrote it
Utilizing this amulet
i actually really like this build, i do almost +4K more damage with the war pike ebotd, but i take a pretty big hit in IAS. Last wish is on offhand for the +res fade effect
I avoided the slow weapons deliberately, the damage output of the Champion Axe is already amazing, and it hits the IAS Breakpoints easily.
The extra damage you gain from The war pike, or thunder mail just isn't worth the loss in attack speed.
Vengeance is just so slow already
I just stole your build idea and respecced my Holy Fire 2h Paladin ( i was running Obedience, worked well but needed lots of LL and DR to truly stay alive on player 3 and 5 where i usually play but it was doable)
Since i play only Self Found offline and didn't found any Zod rune yet i went with Reaper's Toll. Decrepify for CC, big leech, pretty low req, but the speed is low so i am kinda half way there. Do you had any other ideas for weapon for this particular character?
Thanks anyway Ginger! What an awesome idea for a build.
2 handed holy fire huh. Hmmm
Zeal, Obedience Giant thresher should do it.
You need String of ears, Crown of ages(Rock stopper budget) Fortitude for defense(budget treachery)
Double Um rune the coa for resistances.
Gore riders, and 20% IAS Blood Gloves.
Giant thresher is your fastest base that can use obedience.
Hello GGM! Could you make a research video for an updated Bul-Kathos' Children set? Is it viable now considering Knockback was removed from Bul-Kathos' Sacred Charge sword?
Are there any other distraction strategies other than conversion?
Silly question, would making a budget auradin and converting monsters add stacking auras on all your converted monsters and burn down packs really fast work? Since they got your thorns, it follows they would get holy shock or fire aura too right? So if you converted 5 monsters with a lvl 20 aura would you temporarily have a level 100 aura or 5 lvl 20 auras? Or does it not work like that?
Holy Shock & Holy Fire aura only apply to you the paladin and no one else. Not sure where you got the idea they apply to anyone else.
Yes For Auras that do apply to other people they would also apply to the converted monsters.
Didn't know. I was trying to extrapolate from the fact that converting a monster temporarily gave it your thorns aura@@GGMentor
I feel like vengeance could be busted but isn’t cuz of the heavy imposible synergies, they should rework the synergies with this skill so that the synergies come from conviction and salvation at 60 skill points it would give you enough to do a split build like you can with hammerdin or FOTHdin, a vengeance paladin sounds nice but seems annoying to make compared to those other better options, so that would be a nice way to fix the skill and make it viable
Honestly Vengeance is busted. Having played it on multiple builds 1 handed two handed ect. The damage it outputs completely bypasses all immunities. There is very little like it in diablo that is a Melee Skill that can also apply open wounds, Crushing blow, and doesn't care if your immune to physical, Fire, Lighting, or ice. Instead just cuts right through you like your paper mache.
Once you actually play a properly Setup Vengeance paladin you start to realize that you are a very powerful character.
Yeah you don't have the AoE Capability of some other builds, but you practically one shot everything, even elites and bosses go down with the quickness.
@@GGMentorWhich variant is preferable to you? 1 handed or two? Pure vengeance or mix with something else?
@@Urza26 one hander is definitely tankier, two handed hits like a Mac truck.
Not really sure tbh, i like both.
Could be fun to just have both setup on hand
If and only if, worst comes to worse, there is no ZOD rune for BOTD, what other items i can use for my champion axe😅
Is it the Fools Champion Ax of Evisceration? 😂🤣
Kidding aside, what specific ax abilities or rune words or stuff that can do well without BOTD?
THANKS AND I LOVE THIS BUILD ALSO
Oath Champion axe in an eth base, Death Champion Axe in an eth base(little slower)
Eth Silver Edged axe
Eth Hone sundan Yari upgraded with shaels.
Lots of options.
Basically anything two handed ethereal and repairs or indestructible.
You want high physical damage and speed
@@GGMentor thank you 😄
What if you had infinity as your weapon for this build and add maybe some Fanaticism or high lvl holy shock ?
Would be very low damage, since vengeance is highly dependent on physical damage.
Fanaticism isn't needed he already about as fast as he's gonna get. And the enhanced damage from fanaticism doesn't help vengeance. Only the physical damage I go over this during the video.
very cool off-meta build.
humor me please......... what about a dragon/hoj version of this build where you don't have to worry about trash mobs, and you can use vengeance for single target?
or dream/dream so you can have ebotd zerker main hand?
and you can one point wonder into smite and holy shield... maybe redemption. and rogue merc for fanatacism
20 conviction (maybe less?)
20 veng
40 (20 fire 20 lite res)
?????
20 holy shield?
HoJ doesn't have enough damage to work with vengeance.
Dreams could work but that kinda defeats the entire purpose of the Two Handed part of the build.
Very true, thanks
If it goes with the encyclopedic theme of your videos, would not hurt to discuss d2 history. I know you touch on history in unique item deepdives, but if you made videos just on say ladder 1.08, what was the "meta", problems the developers were solving or trying to solve, what the duped item de jour was, if highlights a totally different aspect of d2.
One thing that was very memorable to me as a kid was when LOD first came out and my friends being much smarter than me were talking about trading items in d2 classic for sojs, and then converting the characters to LOD, because gg rares in classic are worthless in LOD as the latter had exceptional uniques.
I'm sure you can come up with a better way to present than what I'm putting out here, but a historical account of this game would be a great addition to the encyclopedia that you're creating
is there a build combining convert and revives somehow?
Vengence deals random types of elemental damage? Is it all 4 damage types at once?
All four at once
Know if I can use inventory mods online, non-ladder?
cuirious, would a phys sunder help or hurt more?
Not needed really, but it would definitely hurt
That ice bolt, is that part of the frozen armor proc?
yes, but it looked strange some sort of graphical glitch
What's a good build for nightmare cow level paladin I need a little advice
Paladins are melee, not really the best cow level farmers.
You would be better off focusing on chaos farming using FoH, Hammerdin, or North Star Smiter.
Most paladin builds will do poorly in cows. Hammerdin can do it, he won't be anywhere near as fast as a lightning javzon or many other classes though.
@@GGMentor Ty I appreciate the advice
run a cold sunder charm?
Considered it, instead I just focused .ore on the other elements
I dont understand the thorns aura, why would you add that to your build. Even with amplify dmg it is considered not efficient in hell. Is it for fun mainly?
Old news.
It's mainly a way for me to have a form of AOE, as I am eminently hittable. I also use it for the Converts to apply extra damage there so the monsters kill each other.
It works well enough.
Why are you running goblin toe instead of gore riders?
Goblin Toe is more Crushing blow, as I have very little due to Breath Of The Dying not having any CB.
So More CB > Gore Riders in this scenario.
I also get the Open Wounds from Dracs when I put them on anyway so it works out nicely.
Like #105
Note to self. Don't convert with thorns on hc
Hahaha
You gunna be playing dragons dogma 2 ?
yes sir I already posted about it on the community page.
Holy crap this is expensive.
Does ds cb openwounds work?
Open Wounds works, CB Works, DS however doesn't work.
I think DS can still affect the smaller physical damage portion of the Vengeance skill. But it does not effect the elemental portion.
Vengeance has the same damage mechanics as the Zon's charged strike y'all
this is how i build my elemantalhitBoy
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but your 2H charging slayer is very sick tooooo
Trollest d2r streamer tf is these builds😂
Don't be jealous of my honkin space axe
The conversion part+thorns is pretty bad but the build itself is pretty cool.
I tried 2h pally builds before and it never seemed to work. But after watching this build, it made want to try and recreate one and i've found some great success in modifying this build.
The trick is treachery is a must and then the bis must have helm is Dream.
Why dream? With treachery your defense is slow low that you're gonna get hit a lot so much so that dream will proc its confuse effect a lot (treachery will always have fade up too). Once everything on the screen is confused its easy to stroll around and one shot everything with an ebotd thunder maul. Dreams adds some decent lightning damage since u already have points in holy shocks synergies.
You can't use dreams with a 2h paladin one of them is a shield.
One dream by itself isn't enough to be worthwhile.
And the conversion Thorns is brilliant, it completely makes the 2H paladin playable in any situation. No matter how stacked the odds are against him.
Treachery is ok, but Fortitude is better. The real issue with the build is it's lack of defense, and fortitude solves that.
@@GGMentor the dream is there for the confusion when hit. I mean it also gives you about 3-4k lite damage too so its not like it isnt decent there. If u run treachery your armor will be so low that you're always gonna get hit and it will proc confusion.
So far the only place the confusion proc sucks is chaos sanctuary where most of those enemies projectiles dont proc it and if u confuse a mage knight they will cast another curse over confusion and life tap.
Ive already tested the build. Run 1 dream and dracs on p8 you either proc confusion or life tap and either will keep you alive.
@@jprec5174 yes and your relying on a proc, which may or may not happen.
Also lots of monsters are immune to confuse.
Conversion is one button and you have a distraction.
Conversion is by far the superior option, it's a 1 point wonder, it's scalable, and works on 99% of monsters.
You also don't have sacrifice your helmet slot for an inferior item.
And treachery is a terrible option, for this build. Even with fortitude you still have low enough defense to proc anything on hit.
The difference is with fortitude you might actually survive.