There's a market for Ferraris too, when a Chevy will get you around just fine. Just because _you_ can't afford something doesn't mean that other people don't place value on it. .... And to continue the car analogy, I doubt that many buyers of these pickups only own one guitar, they likely have _several,_ or lots, just like Ferrari owners almost certainly have several other "every day" cars as well at their Ferrari, or Ferraris.
Who and where do you play with? Most of us weekend musicians can't justify $1000 for pickups. I think we can afford it, but are the fifty people at the local Eagles club can tell the difference? If I was a touring guy I don't know if would buy them. I love the tone of Duncan's just fine. 99.99% of people won't know or care. Pickups are one part of your tone. I'm sticking with the Chevy on this one. Cheers!
I couldn’t afford a Gibson when I grew up, I was never mad at Gibson for it, I just saved my money and worked harder until I could. Now I own 6 Gibson’s and I just ordered a set of these. The moral of the story is crying won’t help you, hard work will
idk about the 57' classics because my understanding is that the '57 classics are wound symmetrically which absolutely wasn't a thing in vintage PAFs. But I would like to see the comparison with burstbuckers, custombuckers, 57' classics (because why not), plus a bunch of other pickup builders various PAF style humbuckers like the DiMarzio 35th anniversary, SD Pearly Gates/Antiquity, Bareknucles Mule, Rewind TAF, etc. My bet is that there isn't a lot of difference between some of them.
Throbak pickups are $750 now and to me they're the absolute best pickups on the market and not to mention the closest to the original I believe you can get ( just my opinion). Throbak has probably 98% of the parts made in America, where the source materials come from is another discussion, and that means a lot to me.
My initial reaction was $999..they are out of their minds.. you can get a set of throbak pickups for like $500 but I went to look and I guess inflation is real -- those are darn near $800. So sadly, $999, isn't really out of range.
There are a lot of people out here that are upset at the very existence of $1,000 pickups and.... ??? It's ok for fancy overpriced things to exist. Didn't let it ruin your day guys
No no no no don't put them in a guitar then they won't be original the pickups that is don't even take them out of the case stop looking at them so hard u might scratch them 😂 buy em if u can afford em❤
I would love to be able to afford to purchase a set if these, but there again if I could aford to I wouldn't !! ( I guess a lot of people fall into this category 😊)
I'd definitely have to try these before buying them, otherwise it would be too much of a gamble. If you spent $1,000, you'd probably convince yourself you could hear a difference from your existing pickups, whether you really could or not. Then it becomes a tale of "the king's new clothes".
For those cases with a vintage era Gibson that would have been originally spec'd for PAFs and they are long gone, seems like a valid brand replacement. The replacement history should be documented and communicated if ever sold.
I think if this was $500-600 it would sit at the "I'm a player and want the closest thing and I'm willing to pay for it" crowd. But at $1000 its more of a "I'm a Dr Lawyer and have a few R9s and want the closest thing to a real 59 without dipping into my kid's trust fund" crowd.
Seems like it would take the old style pots & caps to get the original PAF tone. That being said, if I spent the money for just the PAFs, I bet I’d be able to hear the tone I was hoping for out of my old Les Paul Studio.
This is actually a great point I hadn't considered. Pickups are part of a circuit, and if the rest of the circuit is inauthentic, you already missed the mark in your pursuit.
No for me. Ive had several stets of real PAF's and each sounded different. One set was just sweet AF and I still have them. The first 1k set sounded like crap to me. I paid 300 for a set of custom shop underwound with alnico 3's and the bridge sounded weak (they are, I know). Put alnico 2 in the bridge and they are cotton candy. The neck sounded great with 3's clear as F.
My guess is that 9 out of 10 guitar players would not like the way a set of actual, authentic, vintage 1959 PAF's sound. $1000 seems like a pretty risky investment (crapshoot) for replicas that may or not give you the type of sound that you think you'll like in your particular guitar.
I Think someone ought to throw a set of those in a Guitar and lets hear what they sound like, I have saved many old Tim Shaws, used the Best of the Best American Made Pickups like Klein & Vaughn Skow so not afraid to spend for what is needed, but personally a pass on these from Me, rather have Real Thing then Gibsons Limited Run copy made to cash in
I used to buy guitars (especially Gibsons/Epiphones) specifically for different pickup configurations. I have no issue with this, but man Gibson keeps going back to the PAF well. 20 years ago, I was like "YES! My satin LP Studio has Burstbuckers!". Then it's like of these are pros, then my LP tribute had BB 1s/2s, then Lazarus has BB 2s/3s and THEN.....I see custom buckers and 61s AND AND AND AND......arrrrgggggg!!!! No more Gibson LMAO! This is bad enough if you have GAS but for those of you who also are OCD I sincerely feel bad for you.
What?! No Pink Blanket?! Sacrilege. I don't see those machine marks on the bended brackets either! Pffftt! I do like the flat-blade screws on the P-Ring tho. 🤔 I own 1 paf and it doesn't have those marks either. The shielding on mine looks like it's from WWII, too bad some D-Head chopped the wire like 4 inches long while he was destroying history AND he split up the pair not knowing they are worth much more AS a pair. It's the bridge pup in my beautifully made 335 with dot inlays. Now if only I could play as well as Jonathan. Oh well! Ya can't have Everything. Happy Holidays Every bod-dee!
Don't get overwrought about it, lots of consumer products sell for many _times_ what the base marginal cost of manufacture is. But you need to factor in overheads - depreciation of the machines and buildings, payroll costs, including medical insurance (I heard some years ago that it costs General Motors less to manufacture a car rolling off the production line, than they pay for medical insurance for the employees who make manufacturing the car possible!). I doubt there is much you buy, food, clothing, or anythings else that doesn't as a base level, sell to you for _at very least_ three times the basic cost of manufacture. Some years ago I worked for a biscuit (cookie) manufacturer, and a popular line of biscuits retailed for five times the marginal cost.
Is anyone aware of the difference between these series 2 and the pickups loaded into the 23’ murphy lap r9’s? I believe I saw the pickups in the murphy labs listed as the “custom bucket” but unsure about the specific version of differences
I think they're a scam. I get that a vintage PAF can cost $10,000 which means that $1,000 for an "authentic clone" is an okay price. My issue is that Gibson is trying to build a whole brand around the history of their instruments and then gatekeeping them behind a price most people can't afford. I like Burstbuckers, but if we take Gibson at their word that these are better, realistically, they could afford to put a nicer pickup in a Gibson USA standard guitar. They just won't for the sole purpose of making people want to spend money. You cannot convince me that the cost of production is markedly different between a burst bucker and one of those expensive PAFs if they were being made at scale. The DiMarzio 35th Anniversary, Seymour Duncan Antiquity/Pearly Gates, BareKnuckles Mules, and Rewind TAF are all replica pickups which sound good and cost a heck of a lot less. To me, it looks like Gibson is offering their customers a worse value than they could otherwise offer because I think most other brands would put a better pickup in their guitar if it cost about the same price. A second issue is that we've seen with other reissues Gibson always comes out with there being some new thing that's closer to the original or that they discovered about the original. I just don't buy that this is it. Give it a few years and they'll come out with a new more "authentic" pickup. So I reiterate that it's a scam and even a bit anti-consumer.
I wonder if installing them would devalue them as a collectors item? Other question is how many more times will Gibson tell us the latest is the most historically accurate? Very nice set though and I think the price is reasonable
I just can’t imagine there being double the closeness to an actual PAF to a custom bucker where I’m sure they used actual examples of to get it good enough to put in a $5k+ guitar. So it’s like either the custom bucker is a lie or these are overly massaged custom buckers. The package is arguably worth $1000. I don’t think the pickups are worth $1000. I also see the cool factor in owning these and don’t think someone shouldn’t buy them.
Preface by saying I have no doubt these are excellent pickups. I think that if you can't find a set of pickups that sound fantastic for a couple of hundred dollars, you aren't trying. There is no magic pixie dust sprinkled on PAF pickups. They are just wires, magnets, bobbins, and polepieces like every other pickup on the market. If someone wants to pay 1k for a set of these, that's their choice to make. The guitar isn't going to sound better for it. It's just about bragging rights and a feeling of unearned superiority. To say "yes, but the original PAF goes for 10k so this is 1/10th the price" is a fallacy. Not only are these NOT original PAF'S by any stretch of the imagination, paying 10k for an original is pretty ridiculous as well. These are toys for the very wealthy in a society that is crumbling because of the divide between wealth and poverty.
I think we live in a country where there’s a part of the population that has an insane amount of money and spending $1000 on a set of pickups is not a big deal at all. Gibson would not be good at business if they didn’t cater to that community. 1000 run is so they don’t kill the goose
umm, would I install a set in my Nashville ES-335 '59 reissue? Hard to say. I like my 57 Classics that I currently have so it's a tough call. The price doesn't scare me considering what they are. I mean look what a ES-335 reissue sells for. *if* it was easier to swap pickups then that could push me towards the swap. IMHO
These are meant to be Social Media flexes. NOONE is buying these to just put them on their guitar for the sake of tone. Whoever buys em is buying them to show off the box, and the pickups. Once its in a guitar it looks like any other pickup and I doubt they'll sound $950 better than a $50 wilkinson alnico set, its all subjective. At any price range you can find a pickup that works and sounds good. If you couldn't find a pickup that worked within the $300 price per set then its not the pickup bro.
I have no issue with someone making a non-essential product and pricing it however they want. That said, I’d never be a buyer. It’s never going to be a more than a reproduction. And as a collector’s piece, it’s devalued as soon as you install them in a guitar. I’m not buyer but someone is.
Collectors edition huh ? Well they’ve getting closer to honest, but I’ll hold my breath for the Investors Editions. Of course a guitar player who spends 1000 dollars for a set of pups is never gonna admit if they were disappointed in their purchase. How about a blind shoot out between those 1k Gibsons and a set of Seth lovers and a generic PAF ?
And yet… not a single guitar made by Gibson comes with these magic and exclusive pickups. Not Greeny, not the Red Eye, not the Isbell, not Amos, Not the Yardburst or any of the Murphy Lab units. And here’s the catch… those guitars will never come with these Alnico 2 “rough cast” limited edition pickups. Why? Because these are standard off the shelf unpotted Alnico 2 pickups turned to a specific 8.7k and 7.8k respectively. This is pure marketing bullshit folks. Be happy with your unpotted Custombucker Alnico 5 pickups found on any Murphy Lab. Truth is they don’t know and don’t care as long as you are paying ridiculous money for “nostalgia” credibility. Edited for spelling.
I just don't see a world where Gibson is making the closest PAF recreations, yet someone else has all the old machines that even wound a PAF and Gibson doesn't have access to any of that, and is creating new pickups using new machines, new materials, and yet supposedly has created something closer to the original, than someone using the actual machines that wound the real PAFs, and potentially using new old stock materials, I mean even in theory that doesn't seem possible... then in practice they sound fine but next to a set of Throbaks does Gibson have the edge? Doesn't seem like it from what I can hear... it's like a dr trying to treat someone but having no knowledge of the cause and only identifying symptoms, sure they can study old pickups, but they can't study the machines that made them.... sure they can try Alinco 2 magnets made today, but they're not at all like the alnico 2 sandcast magnets from back in the day.... sure they can measure the shape of the windings but they're using a totally different quality of wire with different levels of consistency when it comes to insulation thickness so does that 3d model really matter? Gibson simply doesn't have access to the data and information necessary to make an accurate recreation, and their arrogance knows no bounds as they continue to postulate that they're the best, while they fail to even make the podium. The people buying these pickups from Gibson, are the ones who will likely never play them, cuz Gibson doesn't build guitars or pickups for players anymore, they build them for collectors, and it shows.
All Gibson picks have an incredible amount of markup. $35 part $1000 price… I love America. Capitalism over socialism everyday. You don’t want a set, don’t pay the price. In 25 years the unsold pickups will be going for 10x the price.
There's a sucker born every minute, and Gibson will always come up with a new ploy to take advantage of every one of em.
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There's a market for Ferraris too, when a Chevy will get you around just fine.
Just because _you_ can't afford something doesn't mean that other people don't place value on it. .... And to continue the car analogy, I doubt that many buyers of these pickups only own one guitar, they likely have _several,_ or lots, just like Ferrari owners almost certainly have several other "every day" cars as well at their Ferrari, or Ferraris.
@@pulaski1 People just find any excuse to hate on Gibson
Who and where do you play with? Most of us weekend musicians can't justify $1000 for pickups. I think we can afford it, but are the fifty people at the local Eagles club can tell the difference? If I was a touring guy I don't know if would buy them. I love the tone of Duncan's just fine. 99.99% of people won't know or care. Pickups are one part of your tone. I'm sticking with the Chevy on this one. Cheers!
@stanesposito2664 There's _nothing_ wrong with a Chevy. There are millions more people who own a Chevy than a Ferrari.
I couldn’t afford a Gibson when I grew up, I was never mad at Gibson for it, I just saved my money and worked harder until I could. Now I own 6 Gibson’s and I just ordered a set of these. The moral of the story is crying won’t help you, hard work will
$1000? Do they send you the rest of the guitar later?
someone needs to do a blind test with these and regular '57 classics. I bet it would be no better than 50/50
idk about the 57' classics because my understanding is that the '57 classics are wound symmetrically which absolutely wasn't a thing in vintage PAFs. But I would like to see the comparison with burstbuckers, custombuckers, 57' classics (because why not), plus a bunch of other pickup builders various PAF style humbuckers like the DiMarzio 35th anniversary, SD Pearly Gates/Antiquity, Bareknucles Mule, Rewind TAF, etc. My bet is that there isn't a lot of difference between some of them.
I put an off brand “paf” in my old epiphone bridge position. I loved it in comparison to the stock neck pickup.
Ha, brilliant! Well done!
Throbak pickups are $750 now and to me they're the absolute best pickups on the market and not to mention the closest to the original I believe you can get ( just my opinion). Throbak has probably 98% of the parts made in America, where the source materials come from is another discussion, and that means a lot to me.
My initial reaction was $999..they are out of their minds.. you can get a set of throbak pickups for like $500 but I went to look and I guess inflation is real -- those are darn near $800. So sadly, $999, isn't really out of range.
There are a lot of people out here that are upset at the very existence of $1,000 pickups and.... ???
It's ok for fancy overpriced things to exist. Didn't let it ruin your day guys
$1000 for pickups is outrageous. Under no circumstances should anyone indulge Gibson’s folly. I love LPs and SGs but, I refuse to pay a King’s Ransom.
Well $1000 to COLLECTORS is not.
We know, don’t we
1k for brand new is moronic. But I’m sure plenty of Gibson fan boys will buy them.
I would love to buy them if I had the money!
Holy crap I thought you were gonna play them and see what they sound like
No no no no don't put them in a guitar then they won't be original the pickups that is don't even take them out of the case stop looking at them so hard u might scratch them 😂 buy em if u can afford em❤
You could buy Gibson 57 classics and a set of Lollar Imperials for this price
I would love to be able to afford to purchase a set if these, but there again if I could aford to I wouldn't !! ( I guess a lot of people fall into this category 😊)
I'd definitely have to try these before buying them, otherwise it would be too much of a gamble. If you spent $1,000, you'd probably convince yourself you could hear a difference from your existing pickups, whether you really could or not. Then it becomes a tale of "the king's new clothes".
For those cases with a vintage era Gibson that would have been originally spec'd for PAFs and they are long gone, seems like a valid brand replacement. The replacement history should be documented and communicated if ever sold.
I think if this was $500-600 it would sit at the "I'm a player and want the closest thing and I'm willing to pay for it" crowd. But at $1000 its more of a "I'm a Dr Lawyer and have a few R9s and want the closest thing to a real 59 without dipping into my kid's trust fund" crowd.
I'm far too ignorant to make $1000 pickup decisions. Cheers Casino!
Seems like it would take the old style pots & caps to get the original PAF tone. That being said, if I spent the money for just the PAFs, I bet I’d be able to hear the tone I was hoping for out of my old Les Paul Studio.
This is actually a great point I hadn't considered. Pickups are part of a circuit, and if the rest of the circuit is inauthentic, you already missed the mark in your pursuit.
If you spent $1k on new pickups, I've no doubt you'd be able to convince yourself you can hear the difference.
@@Mikey__R 😂 I swear it sounds exactly like a real thing! Wanna buy it?
I have some Fralin PAF's, they are totally awesome. I think they were around 350 for the pair? Maybe 400..well worth it...
No for me. Ive had several stets of real PAF's and each sounded different. One set was just sweet AF and I still have them. The first 1k set sounded like crap to me. I paid 300 for a set of custom shop underwound with alnico 3's and the bridge sounded weak (they are, I know). Put alnico 2 in the bridge and they are cotton candy. The neck sounded great with 3's clear as F.
These are cool for people with repro. vintage guitars. Cheaper than original pafs. I just get used 490t Gibson’s for $75. But I don’t have a 59 so…
I can't wait to see how much the one's they come up with to replace those will cost.
Fralin Pure PAFs will eat these for breakfast.
Fagan makes awesome pick ups down to earth great
Suckers exist in the guitar world as well and Gibson is more than happy to take advantage of that fact.
Talking about the price when we have yet to HEAR what they sound like...?
It sounds like a guitar.
PAF actually stands for Pure Agnesi Fire.
I could t imagine these sounding better than a set of OX4, and those are $300 shipped from England and hand wound.
My guess is that 9 out of 10 guitar players would not like the way a set of actual, authentic, vintage 1959 PAF's sound. $1000 seems like a pretty risky investment (crapshoot) for replicas that may or not give you the type of sound that you think you'll like in your particular guitar.
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I Think someone ought to throw a set of those in a Guitar and lets hear what they sound like, I have saved many old Tim Shaws, used the Best of the Best American Made Pickups like Klein & Vaughn Skow so not afraid to spend for what is needed, but personally a pass on these from Me, rather have Real Thing then Gibsons Limited Run copy made to cash in
I heard they’re everywhere, our drinking water , our food supply , our bloodstreams..crazy
I used to buy guitars (especially Gibsons/Epiphones) specifically for different pickup configurations. I have no issue with this, but man Gibson keeps going back to the PAF well. 20 years ago, I was like "YES! My satin LP Studio has Burstbuckers!". Then it's like of these are pros, then my LP tribute had BB 1s/2s, then Lazarus has BB 2s/3s and THEN.....I see custom buckers and 61s AND AND AND AND......arrrrgggggg!!!! No more Gibson LMAO! This is bad enough if you have GAS but for those of you who also are OCD I sincerely feel bad for you.
I’m in
Has anybody tried the Ellis pick ups?
What?! No Pink Blanket?! Sacrilege. I don't see those machine marks on the bended brackets either! Pffftt! I do like the flat-blade screws on the P-Ring tho. 🤔 I own 1 paf and it doesn't have those marks either. The shielding on mine looks like it's from WWII, too bad some D-Head chopped the wire like 4 inches long while he was destroying history AND he split up the pair not knowing they are worth much more AS a pair. It's the bridge pup in my beautifully made 335 with dot inlays. Now if only I could play as well as Jonathan. Oh well! Ya can't have Everything. Happy Holidays Every bod-dee!
If you think $1000 is expensive just wait and see what people will pay on the used market once all the sets are bought up :)
Have you guys bought any of these 1000 pickup sets?
Typical Gibson greed! $1000 for a set of pickups that probably cost about $70 to make. I will never buy anything Gibson again!
Take a stand. Lol
Don't get overwrought about it, lots of consumer products sell for many _times_ what the base marginal cost of manufacture is. But you need to factor in overheads - depreciation of the machines and buildings, payroll costs, including medical insurance (I heard some years ago that it costs General Motors less to manufacture a car rolling off the production line, than they pay for medical insurance for the employees who make manufacturing the car possible!).
I doubt there is much you buy, food, clothing, or anythings else that doesn't as a base level, sell to you for _at very least_ three times the basic cost of manufacture. Some years ago I worked for a biscuit (cookie) manufacturer, and a popular line of biscuits retailed for five times the marginal cost.
Is anyone aware of the difference between these series 2 and the pickups loaded into the 23’ murphy lap r9’s?
I believe I saw the pickups in the murphy labs listed as the “custom bucket” but unsure about the specific version of differences
I do think if they were made with vintage wire people would grab em up even quicker.
I think they're a scam. I get that a vintage PAF can cost $10,000 which means that $1,000 for an "authentic clone" is an okay price. My issue is that Gibson is trying to build a whole brand around the history of their instruments and then gatekeeping them behind a price most people can't afford.
I like Burstbuckers, but if we take Gibson at their word that these are better, realistically, they could afford to put a nicer pickup in a Gibson USA standard guitar. They just won't for the sole purpose of making people want to spend money. You cannot convince me that the cost of production is markedly different between a burst bucker and one of those expensive PAFs if they were being made at scale.
The DiMarzio 35th Anniversary, Seymour Duncan Antiquity/Pearly Gates, BareKnuckles Mules, and Rewind TAF are all replica pickups which sound good and cost a heck of a lot less. To me, it looks like Gibson is offering their customers a worse value than they could otherwise offer because I think most other brands would put a better pickup in their guitar if it cost about the same price.
A second issue is that we've seen with other reissues Gibson always comes out with there being some new thing that's closer to the original or that they discovered about the original. I just don't buy that this is it. Give it a few years and they'll come out with a new more "authentic" pickup.
So I reiterate that it's a scam and even a bit anti-consumer.
I'm happy to spend a grand on pickups but heavens to Betsy give me a nicer case for them. Maybe with a leather carrying strap?
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Maybe they could include some cool swag like a custom back cover plate… or a leather jacket 😂
I wonder if installing them would devalue them as a collectors item? Other question is how many more times will Gibson tell us the latest is the most historically accurate? Very nice set though and I think the price is reasonable
I just can’t imagine there being double the closeness to an actual PAF to a custom bucker where I’m sure they used actual examples of to get it good enough to put in a $5k+ guitar. So it’s like either the custom bucker is a lie or these are overly massaged custom buckers. The package is arguably worth $1000. I don’t think the pickups are worth $1000. I also see the cool factor in owning these and don’t think someone shouldn’t buy them.
$999 for a set of pickups. Gibson needs to pay Mark Agnesi’s used car salesman salary.
,,,,,land o' lakes,wi.....here,.........i have a pile of old pickups,,,check/😮
Preface by saying I have no doubt these are excellent pickups.
I think that if you can't find a set of pickups that sound fantastic for a couple of hundred dollars, you aren't trying. There is no magic pixie dust sprinkled on PAF pickups. They are just wires, magnets, bobbins, and polepieces like every other pickup on the market. If someone wants to pay 1k for a set of these, that's their choice to make. The guitar isn't going to sound better for it. It's just about bragging rights and a feeling of unearned superiority. To say "yes, but the original PAF goes for 10k so this is 1/10th the price" is a fallacy. Not only are these NOT original PAF'S by any stretch of the imagination, paying 10k for an original is pretty ridiculous as well. These are toys for the very wealthy in a society that is crumbling because of the divide between wealth and poverty.
I think we live in a country where there’s a part of the population that has an insane amount of money and spending $1000 on a set of pickups is not a big deal at all. Gibson would not be good at business if they didn’t cater to that community. 1000 run is so they don’t kill the goose
I want them. Does CG sell them or must I go thru Gibson or a Gibson dealer?
Just buy a set of Seymour Duncans. They're expensive enough, and they'll get you where you need to go.
I'm curious as to what the covers look like and what/how they're made because Gibson has lost the ability to produce pickups the way they used to.
umm, would I install a set in my Nashville ES-335 '59 reissue? Hard to say. I like my 57 Classics that I currently have so it's a tough call. The price doesn't scare me considering what they are.
I mean look what a ES-335 reissue sells for. *if* it was easier to swap pickups then that could push me towards the swap. IMHO
These are meant to be Social Media flexes. NOONE is buying these to just put them on their guitar for the sake of tone. Whoever buys em is buying them to show off the box, and the pickups. Once its in a guitar it looks like any other pickup and I doubt they'll sound $950 better than a $50 wilkinson alnico set, its all subjective. At any price range you can find a pickup that works and sounds good. If you couldn't find a pickup that worked within the $300 price per set then its not the pickup bro.
How many sets of these will be sold on eBay and reverb as original pafs for 10,000 dollars?
Why the hell do you need a fancy case if they are going into a guitar?
Nope. Just nope. Pickups for $1000? No No No always No
Why is Tyler Sheid on this channel?
I guess you guys would buy bath water 💧 too
I have no issue with someone making a non-essential product and pricing it however they want. That said, I’d never be a buyer. It’s never going to be a more than a reproduction. And as a collector’s piece, it’s devalued as soon as you install them in a guitar. I’m not buyer but someone is.
Collectors edition huh ? Well they’ve getting closer to honest, but I’ll hold my breath for the Investors Editions.
Of course a guitar player who spends 1000 dollars for a set of pups is never gonna admit if they were disappointed in their purchase. How about a blind shoot out between those 1k Gibsons and a set of Seth lovers and a generic PAF ?
Watching people cry about the price is hilarious! Same people spend 1900 dollars on a Smart phone that lasts 2 years!
And yet… not a single guitar made by Gibson comes with these magic and exclusive pickups. Not Greeny, not the Red Eye, not the Isbell, not Amos, Not the Yardburst or any of the Murphy Lab units. And here’s the catch… those guitars will never come with these Alnico 2 “rough cast” limited edition pickups. Why? Because these are standard off the shelf unpotted Alnico 2 pickups turned to a specific 8.7k and 7.8k respectively.
This is pure marketing bullshit folks. Be happy with your unpotted Custombucker Alnico 5 pickups found on any Murphy Lab. Truth is they don’t know and don’t care as long as you are paying ridiculous money for “nostalgia” credibility.
Edited for spelling.
Absolutely ridiculous. It’s a total money grab, there is no reason any new pickups should be $1,000
I just don't see a world where Gibson is making the closest PAF recreations, yet someone else has all the old machines that even wound a PAF and Gibson doesn't have access to any of that, and is creating new pickups using new machines, new materials, and yet supposedly has created something closer to the original, than someone using the actual machines that wound the real PAFs, and potentially using new old stock materials, I mean even in theory that doesn't seem possible... then in practice they sound fine but next to a set of Throbaks does Gibson have the edge? Doesn't seem like it from what I can hear... it's like a dr trying to treat someone but having no knowledge of the cause and only identifying symptoms, sure they can study old pickups, but they can't study the machines that made them.... sure they can try Alinco 2 magnets made today, but they're not at all like the alnico 2 sandcast magnets from back in the day.... sure they can measure the shape of the windings but they're using a totally different quality of wire with different levels of consistency when it comes to insulation thickness so does that 3d model really matter? Gibson simply doesn't have access to the data and information necessary to make an accurate recreation, and their arrogance knows no bounds as they continue to postulate that they're the best, while they fail to even make the podium. The people buying these pickups from Gibson, are the ones who will likely never play them, cuz Gibson doesn't build guitars or pickups for players anymore, they build them for collectors, and it shows.
Gibson is getting out of control!
I can afford a set, because I don't waste my money on such foolish things.
All Gibson picks have an incredible amount of markup. $35 part $1000 price… I love America. Capitalism over socialism everyday. You don’t want a set, don’t pay the price. In 25 years the unsold pickups will be going for 10x the price.
I can’t tell if you actually like $35 being marked up to $1,000, or if you’re being sarcastic lol.
They should sell them for $2000, properly exclusive.
Ok so throw them in a newer Gibson made with new wood. Tone wood?
$1000 is pretty cheap
This is not for me! Maybe one day ill have enough money to be able to decide not to buy those pickups
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