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This is so crazy, but my family my ancestors hailed from Amasya and Bartın. It’s crazy to know that this was part of the history mainly because I stayed there for months during the summer of 95, which was shortly before I moved to the United States with my parents what took us back was unfortunately a death in the family it was very hard for me to reallyemotionally comprehend what was going on because I was really young and I didn’t know the person that had passed away but it was amazing being able to explore the places such a small town so beautiful it feels like it barely changes every hundred years and it’s amazing to know that this was part of the history of the town
"You know, Isa. I know that after your father died, you have walked from court to court, and from humilliating defeat into humilliating defeat. You have lost all the armies you have commanded. But... what the hell. I kind of like you. Have another army. Just don't break it like the other ones!"
I can’t imagine, what was Emperor Manuel was going through during this turbulent time, constantly changing his allegiances from one prince to another and agreeing to all the new and different treaties.
@@dominicguye8058 Because your life, City, fate of thousand year realm etc. is not influenced by those events as you are watching video from home/work. Manuel had no such luxury.
Would be phantastic if you could make a video about Phromo Kesaro and the Turk Shahis. Or the Turkic army corps of the Abbasid dynasty is a very underrated piece of history, too. A detailed listing of the intrigues during that time would be a PIECE OF ART.
I will write my previous comment again here. It's interesting to observe that many commentators often seek to downplay the achievements, conquests, and innovations of the Ottomans. Yet, let's acknowledge that we are discussing an empire that engaged in wars, primarily driven by economic and political motives rather than religious ones. It successfully adapted to the demands of its time, establishing a robust framework for administration, trade, and the economy. The Ottoman Empire created a flourishing civilization with the influence of other rich civilizations where diverse nations coexisted harmoniously; although, one might observe a different scenario in its former geography marked by various problems nowadays. As someone proud of my Turkish heritage, I take immense pride in my ancestors who, despite their imperfections, played a pivotal role in shaping and sustaining the Ottoman Empire for an impressive six centuries. Thank you, K&G, we love you!
Notice how quickly Musa lost the support of the standing army and the government in the balkans in the telling of K&G for no reason outlined? That's because he was much more of an absolutist than the other princes and he practiced an earlier form of socialism which threatened the land gains of the Ottoman pashas and the like. So they abandoned him to keep their fortunes gained under the previous rulers.
Finally you cover it up K&G, as a ottoman fans this civil war was very painful to watch 😢 But hey, i'm always waiting for you guys to remade Siege of Constantinopel (1453) 🤩
This is the least mentioned Ottoman history part in Turkish schools. It's only "after 1402 there was 11 years of civil war and Mehmet çelebi gained power". Details of the civil war and remaining years of his reign is unknown for most of the Turks. I really appreciate the effort and your work. Thanks for the video!
@@truja97 history in schools are clearly biased. We beat the whole Europe history is more popular, hence, struggles of the empire don't mentioned as much. Most of the defeats are mentioned as "because Austrians and Russians are allied and stuff then we lost, otherwise we were cool" . Education only accepts real Ottoman decline in 19th century since there is no decisive wins remaining :) I needed to read foreign sources to understand real position of the empire. In my knowledge, until the end of high-school, I believed that ottomans did not lose even any minor skirmish against the Europeans until 17th century. (obviously wrong in all sides)
I've been looking forward to another addition of the rise of the ottoman series for months! I honestly didn't know about this civil war. Glad it's getting mentioned though.
This is a real unicorn of a Kings and Generals video: it's about the Ottoman Civil War AND contains the phrase "died of natural causes." I never thought I'd see the day!
@@HOCATIMURTASPASAErken Osmanlı hep Bektaşi olm. Devleti Sünni yapan Yavuz Sultan Selim. Ayrıca Bayzeid sozcüğünün Yezid ile de alakası yoktur, Payazat'tan gelir.
@@HOCATIMURTASPASA No, Muslim dynasties affiliated with sufi mysticism from Turkestan somehow revere caliph Ali a lot and despise Umayyads, just look at what Timur did to Umayyad graves and sympathizers in Damascus
@@nenenindonuDostum Hz Ali'yi seviyorlar lakin bir okadar da Hz Osman'ın seviyorlar, Emeviler hz Osman'ın soyundan geliyorlar ve Osmanlılar emevilere saygı duyuyor kurucusunun ismi osman ve devletinde ismi osman olması bunun göstergesidir ve hz Alinin oğlu hz Hüseyin'in şehit edilmesinin emeviler ve yöneticilerle alakası yok osmanlı bunu çok iyi biliyor ve bu yüzden iki sultanın ve şehsadelerin ismi bin yezittir yani bayezit. Timurun Hz yezidin mezarıyla ilgili söylentiler nekadar doğru bilmiyorum ama bir fars şairinin mezarını yıktığını duymuştum.
Evrenos Bey, an Ottoman general who had served the dynasty since the foundation of the empire also escaped from prince Musa and joined forces with Mehmed I
Bro gazi evrenos bey was a diff level veteran, he saw the empire from literally growing to disintegrating and then uniting again, he lived for 129 years ( 1288 - 1417 ). Truly deserved his title.
Everyone knows about Mehmet the second, conqueror, but not that many about Mehmet first the person who recreated ottoman empire through difficult times
It is amazing none of the European lands of ottomans revolt after battle of Ankara. Only anatolian Türkmen beys revolted. This shows Ottoman empire's foundation in Europe is strong. But now we have little of it
@@KingsandGeneralsplease cover more videos on india like mughal conquests, mughal relationship with Ottomans, British conquest of india and maratha conquests
Your videos on early Ottoman history are tremendously appreciated. In particular, for a Bulgarian native of Thrace. A historic era that is frequently disregarded.
Refering to the fratricide family tree, Murad's elder brother was Suleyman. In sources like von Hammer, Suleyman was the favorite one for the day to ascend to the throne would come. However, he was killed in a hunting accident and left Murad to fight his little brother Halil. Being the elder one left might be a legitimacy winner for Europe in that age, it didn't work like that in the east, though. Fratricide as a practice entered the law during the reign of Mehmed II, being the grandson of the first. A couple of generations later, might-be-heirs grew up in the palace in Constatinople. Many of them never left the quarters or at least alive, anyhow. Happy to contribute, keep it coming!
Hunting 'accidents' were very popular among medieval rulers. I still don't get how some Bulgarian tsars dared to go hunting with some brother or cousin who is interested in 'inheriting his job'. It was like this for tsar Gavrail Radomir (1014-1015) and the other one was tsar Mihail II Asen (1246-1256).
Bayezid II after Mehmed the Conqueror was a backwards ruler to be fair, especially compared to his enlightened father. But apart from him, starting from Osman and ending with Suleiman, almost all rulers were competent.
@@Octavian999 Murad IV and Mahmud II can be added. Especially Mahmud II abolished the janissary corps, which was the scourge of the Ottoman Empire, made a radical change in the military system of the Ottoman Empire and paved the way for the establishment of a modern army. These reforms made during the reign of Mahmud II laid the foundations of the Tanzimat period. Many innovations have been made in education, clothing, management and social structure. Apart from the state administration and the army, modernization efforts have been made in social and cultural areas, western-style schools have been opened, the postal organization has been established and there have been changes in clothing.
@@KhanTonyukuk Definitely. I didn't mean to say all emperors after Suleiman were bad, there were definitely competent ones. Selim III could also be added to that list as well, on top of the ones you mentioned. Mahmuh II is probably my favourite sultan of them all to be honest.
The foundations of the Ottoman state were already so strong by early 1400s that Bayazid's defeat at Ankara held them back only for 10 years before state got reunited.
What about Kavalalı, he nearly captured the throne after defeat the ottoman army 3 times. Like in this turmoil, ottoman sultan stop them by the help of external powers
Names of leaders of the Ottoman Civil War 👇 Soleman = Soloman Isa = jesus Mahmet = Mohammed Mosa = moses Mustafa = Mohammed another name. all of them after prophets in Islam.
Note: After Ertuğrul's death, Osman's younger uncle, Haji Bektash Veli, became Bey, according to stories found in the book Vilayetname. Around that period, Osman and a few other fighters began planning raids on the Byzantine territories that bordered Söğüt, including Yarhisar, Bilecik, İnegöl, and İznik. Provoked as a result, the Byzantine Tekfur (governor) of Bursa complained about these ongoing attacks and sent envoys to the Seljuk Sultan Alâeddin Kayqubad III.
I have been waiting for the follow-up video of the defeat of Sultan Bayazid I from Timur The Lame for a long time and finally it has appeared, waiting for the continuation
I'm not sure if I missed it... But what happened to Timur after he sees the Ottoman reawakening? And why didn't he support a side during the civil war.
@@ksagitarius There was a succession crisis after Timur died which ran from 1405 through 1411, after which Timur's son Shah Rukh basically withdrew Timurid influence to the Euphrates. Anatolia is after all quite a long way from Samarkand and Herat. (Although you'll often hear that the Timurid Empire collapsed after Timur, Shah Rukh held everything between the Euphrates and India firmly until his long reign ended in 1447, and *that* is when the Timurids started to crumble).
@@ksagitarius it was nearly impossible for muslim rulers to die without an heir, since they had both multiple wives and concubines. They suffered from many successors rather than no successors.
One of the overlooked great Ottoman rulers, unlike the more popular Ottomans Mehmed I didn't even inherit the throne let alone taking over a stable state as Suleiman I did. He's basically an Ottoman equivalent of Atatürk
Excellent video Against all odds, the Ottoman Empire reformed. Suleman’s concessions came to nothing. Mehmed had no compunction against murdering his brothers. Imagine being a Ottoman Emperor. Murdering your own family 😮
I think that it's a miracle that Ottomans managed to reunite and not lose even more lands. Had Timurids managed to retain their influence in Anatolia or Hungary capitalized and chip away lands in the balkans, history would have gone through a different route.
Thats why the fracticide rule plays a key role in these territories. Before we comment on historical events we should consider the culture, the religion, the territory and most important the time (era) to understand the motive. Otherwise it is easy to criticize the historical events such fractricide or dewshirme system, that they were tyranic, despotic actions.
From the point of view of the 21th century of course such things are strange to us, killing a brother? Wtf. But as you can see also from the video, if the rulers dont kill their brothers, the folk, the people will slaughter their brothers in civil wars...
@@segwhkamaza6447 they used to kill their brothers old or young ambitious or not. It didn’t even matter what their opinions was only paranoia of power mattered. As for stability arguably the decline of the ottomans was because of one incident of fratricide The competent son of suleiman the magnificent was unlucky and fell prey whereas the useless one became sultan after him
Ottomans were not using "(SON) bin (FATHER)" template while calling himselfs. It's an Arabic culture and never used by Ottomans cuz they are Turkish. Instead of doing that, you may call "Bayezid Khan oğlu Mehmed" means "Mehmed, son of Bayezid Khan".
Manuel,Stefan and Mircea should have all "supported" Musa. Lead their armies against the Ottoman ruler who seemed stronger while taking the opportunity to regain some of their lost land from Suleyman. Then when Mehmet comes to the picture in the Balkans,they could side with him or Musa depending on who would let them keep the land they gained. The decisive battles of the Ottoman civil war were not landslides,so even if the Serbian Wallachian and Byzantine armies were small,together they would be enough to decide the outcome
I am a fan of Kings and Generals and as a history student often use their videos to enhance my knowledge or get a second perspective on things. That said, this map is so bad it is ridiculous. Along with this one, a number of maps on other videos were unhistorical and made with an attempt (i suppose) to pamper to modern national state concepts. Firstly, both Zeta and ''Dukagini'' what ever that is, were not independent like shown in the video. They were a part of the Serbian Despotate which was in itself a part of the Ottoman empire although it also pledged aliagence to the Kingdom of Hungary. Now about the Kingdom of Hungary, it had the entirety of Croatia in its domain ever since 1102 when Koloman absorbed it into the crown of st. Stephan so that too makes no sense at all. If i wanted to i could nit pick this even more probably as i see some states on the map that are straight out of some historical fiction fantasies. History should pamper to anyone.
Hey Kings and Generals Crew! Are you ever going to do continue what happened to Ottoman Empire after the year 1600 when slow downfall of the Empire started? Seems to me you are redoing old videos about early history of the ottomans again. Also Komnenian restoration period would be awesome :)
Slow downfall was from 1700. K&G is a biased Europeon history channel. When europeons lose it was always "fought heroic", someone fleed or a natural disaster.
@@MrCommandert10 I'd say it started early 1600's but it's subjective matter. Some say after Suleiman died the decline started and some say after siege of Vienna 1684. Take your pick :)
can you please do one on the goryeo-khitan war and on the famous general, Kang Gam Chan who’s on par with Yi Soon Shin as one of Korea’s generational one of a kind generals
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turks are not arabs !
they dont use BiN in the name !
This is so crazy, but my family my ancestors hailed from Amasya and Bartın. It’s crazy to know that this was part of the history mainly because I stayed there for months during the summer of 95, which was shortly before I moved to the United States with my parents what took us back was unfortunately a death in the family it was very hard for me to reallyemotionally comprehend what was going on because I was really young and I didn’t know the person that had passed away but it was amazing being able to explore the places such a small town so beautiful it feels like it barely changes every hundred years and it’s amazing to know that this was part of the history of the town
@@TrekPointyou're not German, you're tyrk
"You know, Isa. I know that after your father died, you have walked from court to court, and from humilliating defeat into humilliating defeat. You have lost all the armies you have commanded. But... what the hell. I kind of like you. Have another army. Just don't break it like the other ones!"
I saw this comment while he was going to the court of Jandarids for soldiers lmao that guy was hopeless
The Karamanids "Wait, actually we don't want to give an army to the guy who just lost like four of them in a row."
I can’t imagine, what was Emperor Manuel was going through during this turbulent time, constantly changing his allegiances from one prince to another and agreeing to all the new and different treaties.
It didn't look that complicated to me
@@dominicguye8058 Because your life, City, fate of thousand year realm etc. is not influenced by those events as you are watching video from home/work. Manuel had no such luxury.
Keyboard genius@@dominicguye8058
"I play both sides, so I always come out on top."
He is also known as "the second founderer of the Empire".
God, Ottoman history is just so interesting and fun to learn about. I love it!
Would be phantastic if you could make a video about Phromo Kesaro and the Turk Shahis.
Or the Turkic army corps of the Abbasid dynasty is a very underrated piece of history, too. A detailed listing of the intrigues during that time would be a PIECE OF ART.
I will write my previous comment again here. It's interesting to observe that many commentators often seek to downplay the achievements, conquests, and innovations of the Ottomans. Yet, let's acknowledge that we are discussing an empire that engaged in wars, primarily driven by economic and political motives rather than religious ones. It successfully adapted to the demands of its time, establishing a robust framework for administration, trade, and the economy. The Ottoman Empire created a flourishing civilization with the influence of other rich civilizations where diverse nations coexisted harmoniously; although, one might observe a different scenario in its former geography marked by various problems nowadays. As someone proud of my Turkish heritage, I take immense pride in my ancestors who, despite their imperfections, played a pivotal role in shaping and sustaining the Ottoman Empire for an impressive six centuries. Thank you, K&G, we love you!
I find the Ottomans to have combined the best of the East and West in their empire better than that of the Arabs and Persians.
keep going bro, we love your content! especially ottoman empire
Finally a deep dive into this war by you!
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
Nicely done
Notice how quickly Musa lost the support of the standing army and the government in the balkans in the telling of K&G for no reason outlined? That's because he was much more of an absolutist than the other princes and he practiced an earlier form of socialism which threatened the land gains of the Ottoman pashas and the like. So they abandoned him to keep their fortunes gained under the previous rulers.
Yes it is correct. But Fatih Sultan Mehmet changed evrythings. Fatih Sultan took all PowerPoint hisself
Bro what took u so long we need more #OTTOMAN videos ❤
Finally you cover it up K&G, as a ottoman fans this civil war was very painful to watch 😢
But hey, i'm always waiting for you guys to remade Siege of Constantinopel (1453) 🤩
I thought you are going to cover the jalali uprising
Honestly this should be the year eu5 uses as it’s future start date
Thank you!!👍🏽
I'm gettign the feeling that Isa was not a prticularly good commander.
Awesome video! Love ya!
Im waiting Valmy ,Jemmapes and Flanders campagne
Wow i never head about this before.
Could you put the subtitle?
done!
@@KingsandGeneralsis production finished for the Mongols in European alternate history series?
Those who are on the side of the kapikulus, would always win those battles
What a pity! the Eastern Roman Empire only being spectator for this chaotic drama 🤦♂️🤦♂️.
Sic transit gloria mundi
Background music?
What's the music name at 0:05
Like 😊
❤❤
What will the next episode cover?
Constantinople 1422 mostly
This is the least mentioned Ottoman history part in Turkish schools. It's only "after 1402 there was 11 years of civil war and Mehmet çelebi gained power". Details of the civil war and remaining years of his reign is unknown for most of the Turks.
I really appreciate the effort and your work. Thanks for the video!
Why is it like that?
@@truja97 history in schools are clearly biased. We beat the whole Europe history is more popular, hence, struggles of the empire don't mentioned as much. Most of the defeats are mentioned as "because Austrians and Russians are allied and stuff then we lost, otherwise we were cool" . Education only accepts real Ottoman decline in 19th century since there is no decisive wins remaining :) I needed to read foreign sources to understand real position of the empire. In my knowledge, until the end of high-school, I believed that ottomans did not lose even any minor skirmish against the Europeans until 17th century. (obviously wrong in all sides)
+yes
I've been looking forward to another addition of the rise of the ottoman series for months! I honestly didn't know about this civil war. Glad it's getting mentioned though.
That's a shame because this is very interesting.
Your early Ottoman history videos are much appreciated! Especially for a Bulgarian from Thrace. An often ignored period in our history. 🙏
Bulgarian from thrace?
Check a map Seawolf.@@Seawolf887
@@GhjkoplokkpWestern Thrace is greek while northern Thrace is bulgarian.
@@Ghjkoplokkp western thrace is Greece.
@@Weberkooks ok
Fun fact: Ottoman princes are named after prophets.
Mehmed: Mohammad
İsa: Jesus
Musa: Moses
Süleyman: Solomon
Mustafa: Another name of Mohammad
Correct
Solomon wasn''t Prophet, HE WAS KING OF ISRAEL !!!
@@aleksandarvil5718 He was according to Islamic faith. And Ottomans were Muslim.
Muslims recognise 25 prophets, all of the above mentioned are the ones included
@@aleksandarvil5718hayır kuranda peygamber olarak anılır.
This is a real unicorn of a Kings and Generals video: it's about the Ottoman Civil War AND contains the phrase "died of natural causes." I never thought I'd see the day!
The sons of Bayezid are named after religious prophets.
Mehmed: Muhammad
Isa: Jesus
Musa: Moses
Suleyman: Solomon
Mustafa: Epithet of Muhammad
While he himself was named after a Sufi saint from Central Asia (Bayezid Bistami)
@@nenenindonubin yezitten gelmiyormu yani muaviye oğlu yezid demek ben öyle biliyorum. Osmanlıların emevi yanlısı olduğunu düşünüyorum
@@HOCATIMURTASPASAErken Osmanlı hep Bektaşi olm. Devleti Sünni yapan Yavuz Sultan Selim. Ayrıca Bayzeid sozcüğünün Yezid ile de alakası yoktur, Payazat'tan gelir.
@@HOCATIMURTASPASA No, Muslim dynasties affiliated with sufi mysticism from Turkestan somehow revere caliph Ali a lot and despise Umayyads, just look at what Timur did to Umayyad graves and sympathizers in Damascus
@@nenenindonuDostum Hz Ali'yi seviyorlar lakin bir okadar da Hz Osman'ın seviyorlar, Emeviler hz Osman'ın soyundan geliyorlar ve Osmanlılar emevilere saygı duyuyor kurucusunun ismi osman ve devletinde ismi osman olması bunun göstergesidir ve hz Alinin oğlu hz Hüseyin'in şehit edilmesinin emeviler ve yöneticilerle alakası yok osmanlı bunu çok iyi biliyor ve bu yüzden iki sultanın ve şehsadelerin ismi bin yezittir yani bayezit. Timurun Hz yezidin mezarıyla ilgili söylentiler nekadar doğru bilmiyorum ama bir fars şairinin mezarını yıktığını duymuştum.
Evrenos Bey, an Ottoman general who had served the dynasty since the foundation of the empire also escaped from prince Musa and joined forces with Mehmed I
He's had a very long life, does he? He's even still leads the army even though he's more than 100 years old #cmiiw
Bro gazi evrenos bey was a diff level veteran, he saw the empire from literally growing to disintegrating and then uniting again, he lived for 129 years ( 1288 - 1417 ). Truly deserved his title.
@@mohammadbilal4473bro my guy say every sultan, from Osman bey to orhan bey to sultan murad to bayezid to sultan mehmed
5 sultans in 100 years crazy.
He saw them turn from a couple lands to a beylik than a state then an empire then a beylik and then a sultanate again
What a fascinating time. And how quickly the Ottomans recovered (granted the spent their strength fighting among themselves) after Timur.
It's survival of the fittest with these dudes, as controversial as it was when they stopped doing it arguably the empire declined 🤔🤔😂
@@kalmon6745 Its kinda true but also alot of chaos and resources spent to find the most capable Sultan
A civil war I did not know about in detail, wel summarized. A pity we don't get to see some details on the most important battles
I guess the sources are too limited
@@Kili2807 yeah that's usually the case with K&G when they don't go in depth
Too bad Greeks, even your rebellion against the Ottomans was not big like the Turks uprising
Everyone knows about Mehmet the second, conqueror, but not that many about Mehmet first the person who recreated ottoman empire through difficult times
This video is very well put together. As a Turk reading Turkish history for years, I’d like to thank you.
Ottoman recovered while timurids lost in oblivion
Timurids also ruled until 1857,
@@syedafzaalalishah3835ottomans outlived them😊
It is amazing none of the European lands of ottomans revolt after battle of Ankara. Only anatolian Türkmen beys revolted. This shows Ottoman empire's foundation in Europe is strong. But now we have little of it
Surprised with all of this going on in the Ottoman empire that the neighbouring kingdoms didn't have a go at destabilising them more.
They were reeling from the wounds of nicopolis
This+2nd Crusade+Wars of the Diadochi, you guys are on fire with interesting history.
Dear K&G, if biased Ottoman historians say a sultan is a hard partyer, he was very probably a hard partyer.
When they say biased, they mean pro Mehmed and anti Suleyman sources
Yep
@@KingsandGeneralsplease cover more videos on india like mughal conquests, mughal relationship with Ottomans, British conquest of india and maratha conquests
Why do karamanids israeli flag
@@sidiahmedhowmy7925 It isnt Israeli flag. Karamanid flag had the star of David on it.
Your videos on early Ottoman history are tremendously appreciated. In particular, for a Bulgarian native of Thrace. A historic era that is frequently disregarded.
Mehmed is considered the second founder of the Ottoman Empire because he ended the Ottoman civil war.
Mehmed winning battles at 17
Refering to the fratricide family tree, Murad's elder brother was Suleyman. In sources like von Hammer, Suleyman was the favorite one for the day to ascend to the throne would come. However, he was killed in a hunting accident and left Murad to fight his little brother Halil.
Being the elder one left might be a legitimacy winner for Europe in that age, it didn't work like that in the east, though. Fratricide as a practice entered the law during the reign of Mehmed II, being the grandson of the first. A couple of generations later, might-be-heirs grew up in the palace in Constatinople. Many of them never left the quarters or at least alive, anyhow.
Happy to contribute, keep it coming!
Hunting 'accidents' were very popular among medieval rulers. I still don't get how some Bulgarian tsars dared to go hunting with some brother or cousin who is interested in 'inheriting his job'. It was like this for tsar Gavrail Radomir (1014-1015) and the other one was tsar Mihail II Asen (1246-1256).
It's pretty impressive that except for a few civil wars like this the Ottomans had 10 really good Sultans in a row.
Bayezid II after Mehmed the Conqueror was a backwards ruler to be fair, especially compared to his enlightened father. But apart from him, starting from Osman and ending with Suleiman, almost all rulers were competent.
@@Octavian999 Murad IV and Mahmud II can be added. Especially Mahmud II abolished the janissary corps, which was the scourge of the Ottoman Empire, made a radical change in the military system of the Ottoman Empire and paved the way for the establishment of a modern army. These reforms made during the reign of Mahmud II laid the foundations of the Tanzimat period. Many innovations have been made in education, clothing, management and social structure. Apart from the state administration and the army, modernization efforts have been made in social and cultural areas, western-style schools have been opened, the postal organization has been established and there have been changes in clothing.
@@KhanTonyukuk Definitely. I didn't mean to say all emperors after Suleiman were bad, there were definitely competent ones. Selim III could also be added to that list as well, on top of the ones you mentioned. Mahmuh II is probably my favourite sultan of them all to be honest.
@@KhanTonyukukMahmud eşşsğin teki
The foundations of the Ottoman state were already so strong by early 1400s that Bayazid's defeat at Ankara held them back only for 10 years before state got reunited.
You know your state is special when it only has 1 civil war in its 600 years of history.
Special needs yeah
Guys, someone should really tell Isa to stop being commander and instead become athlete, is a more appropriate role.
It’s either he successfully grabs the throne or he gets killed
Musa = Moses
Isa = Jesus
Suleiman =Solomon
Mehmet = Mohammed
😁
Mehmet reminds me of Aurelian
It is crazy that this is the one & only civil war for an empire of 600 years lifespan.
Bayezid II and Cem Sultan was also a great civil war.
@@kubat552 it was not that big.
It depends on your definition of a civil war but yeah, nothing of this magnitude ever happened again
What about Kavalalı, he nearly captured the throne after defeat the ottoman army 3 times. Like in this turmoil, ottoman sultan stop them by the help of external powers
@@osmanokumuser It was an uprising of a governor. He didn't have any right on the throne.
I’m looking forward to the episodes about the reigns of Murad II and Fatih Sultan Mehmed🥰
Names of leaders of the Ottoman Civil War 👇
Soleman = Soloman
Isa = jesus
Mahmet = Mohammed
Mosa = moses
Mustafa = Mohammed another name.
all of them after prophets in Islam.
Note: After Ertuğrul's death, Osman's younger uncle, Haji Bektash Veli, became Bey, according to stories found in the book Vilayetname. Around that period, Osman and a few other fighters began planning raids on the Byzantine territories that bordered Söğüt, including Yarhisar, Bilecik, İnegöl, and İznik. Provoked as a result, the Byzantine Tekfur (governor) of Bursa complained about these ongoing attacks and sent envoys to the Seljuk Sultan Alâeddin Kayqubad III.
I have been waiting for the follow-up video of the defeat of Sultan Bayazid I from Timur The Lame for a long time and finally it has appeared, waiting for the continuation
Is really weird to see a map of the Ottoman Empire without the Anatolian region.
Make you think about the size of that mess.
I'm not sure if I missed it... But what happened to Timur after he sees the Ottoman reawakening? And why didn't he support a side during the civil war.
Timur died in 1405
@@KingsandGenerals No heir?
@@ksagitarius yep, with their problems with civil wars in Iran and Central Asia
@@ksagitarius There was a succession crisis after Timur died which ran from 1405 through 1411, after which Timur's son Shah Rukh basically withdrew Timurid influence to the Euphrates. Anatolia is after all quite a long way from Samarkand and Herat. (Although you'll often hear that the Timurid Empire collapsed after Timur, Shah Rukh held everything between the Euphrates and India firmly until his long reign ended in 1447, and *that* is when the Timurids started to crumble).
@@ksagitarius it was nearly impossible for muslim rulers to die without an heir, since they had both multiple wives and concubines. They suffered from many successors rather than no successors.
Take a shot every time Isa loses a war
One of the overlooked great Ottoman rulers, unlike the more popular Ottomans Mehmed I didn't even inherit the throne let alone taking over a stable state as Suleiman I did. He's basically an Ottoman equivalent of Atatürk
@@1purpose482 ikhwanist cope
@@nenenindonucmon comparing this badass to a jew like ataturk 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🗑️
@@1purpose482 every muslim understand this except our Turks
Day by day this channel's qulity of making videos is improving✅ and it's giving us most interesting doucmentries for free.
Thank you so much❤
For those who are confused; the term "Ulema" means scholar class
Suleyman = Solomon
Isa = Jesus
Musa = Moses
Mehmed = Muhammed
Mustafa = Another name of Muhammed
Excellent video
Against all odds, the Ottoman Empire reformed.
Suleman’s concessions came to nothing.
Mehmed had no compunction against murdering his brothers.
Imagine being a Ottoman Emperor.
Murdering your own family 😮
I think that it's a miracle that Ottomans managed to reunite and not lose even more lands. Had Timurids managed to retain their influence in Anatolia or Hungary capitalized and chip away lands in the balkans, history would have gone through a different route.
There was no way the Timurids would be able to retain their influence in Anatolia as the empire is almost depend on Timur.
Imagine if the Nicopolis Crusade had happened *after* Ankara and not before.
the exact opposite would happen if Bayezid had managed to defeat Timur. History can't be written with "if"
the real-life the real game of the thrones the ottoman civil war
Thats why the fracticide rule plays a key role in these territories.
Before we comment on historical events we should consider the culture, the religion, the territory and most important the time (era) to understand the motive. Otherwise it is easy to criticize the historical events such fractricide or dewshirme system, that they were tyranic, despotic actions.
From the point of view of the 21th century of course such things are strange to us, killing a brother? Wtf. But as you can see also from the video, if the rulers dont kill their brothers, the folk, the people will slaughter their brothers in civil wars...
Even medieval Islamic law fracticide is a despicable crime. I don’t know how they use to go around this
@@adamsnow4979its ruled as "if its going to bring instability and lead to civil peoples death its correct to kill competition"
@@segwhkamaza6447 they used to kill their brothers old or young ambitious or not. It didn’t even matter what their opinions was only paranoia of power mattered. As for stability arguably the decline of the ottomans was because of one incident of fratricide
The competent son of suleiman the magnificent was unlucky and fell prey whereas the useless one became sultan after him
@@adamsnow4979Decline of the Ottomans was Nationalism
Amazing video as always!
You said it.
Ottomans were not using "(SON) bin (FATHER)" template while calling himselfs. It's an Arabic culture and never used by Ottomans cuz they are Turkish.
Instead of doing that, you may call "Bayezid Khan oğlu Mehmed" means "Mehmed, son of Bayezid Khan".
Basılan Osmanlı paralarında bin kullanılıyor dostum. Ama çoğunluk olarak oğlu kelimesini kullanmışlardır . Yalnız bin kullanmadılar demek doğru değil.
You sure have to have Stefan of Serbia on your side
As always, love the Ottoman series. Keep up the great work K&G!
2:49 - Your visual description of Albanian lords and their tribes is VERY ACCURATE. Amazing channel, congratulations.
Manuel,Stefan and Mircea should have all "supported" Musa. Lead their armies against the Ottoman ruler who seemed stronger while taking the opportunity to regain some of their lost land from Suleyman.
Then when Mehmet comes to the picture in the Balkans,they could side with him or Musa depending on who would let them keep the land they gained.
The decisive battles of the Ottoman civil war were not landslides,so even if the Serbian Wallachian and Byzantine armies were small,together they would be enough to decide the outcome
Men, Sultan Musa was strong. He defeated the Serbs, advanced to the Vlachs, and took his son Vlad
I am a fan of Kings and Generals and as a history student often use their videos to enhance my knowledge or get a second perspective on things. That said, this map is so bad it is ridiculous. Along with this one, a number of maps on other videos were unhistorical and made with an attempt (i suppose) to pamper to modern national state concepts. Firstly, both Zeta and ''Dukagini'' what ever that is, were not independent like shown in the video. They were a part of the Serbian Despotate which was in itself a part of the Ottoman empire although it also pledged aliagence to the Kingdom of Hungary. Now about the Kingdom of Hungary, it had the entirety of Croatia in its domain ever since 1102 when Koloman absorbed it into the crown of st. Stephan so that too makes no sense at all. If i wanted to i could nit pick this even more probably as i see some states on the map that are straight out of some historical fiction fantasies. History should pamper to anyone.
16:06 Fun fact: This is when the events of Kingdom Come: Deliverance and likely its sequel take place, in 1403 Bohemia during Sigismund's wars there
The ghost of the Romans: “first time? It’s fine this kind of things always happens.”
Ah yes, 4 consecutive civil wars require great talent(A.D 69)
Thanks…. Keep updating us about the Ottomans
We need the next part ASAP...
AWESOME EPISODES🎉🎉
Just another Ottoman royalty sibling moment.
Ok please quick
Only one Sultan that could rule them all.
wow. didnt think muslims and christians were married lol
Will you be releasing the patreon only videos for everyone like you did with the Peloponnesian war series?
Not at this point
Ottoman empire remake is back? Bring it on!
Ottoman history is very interesting please continue this series
The short time the eastern Roman empire got a bit of a break in the 15th century
More of ottomon please❤
Love king and generals videos on Islamic world ( from the Middle Ages and the ottomans), beautifully done 👍🏾
History. The greatest show on earth.
Amen to that
Lol, ERE could have bounced back, lol.
Bounced back with what army ?
It would be great if you created an episode of the ottomans rival in the east, Safavids, and their great shah Abbas I
Hey Kings and Generals Crew! Are you ever going to do continue what happened to Ottoman Empire after the year 1600 when slow downfall of the Empire started? Seems to me you are redoing old videos about early history of the ottomans again. Also Komnenian restoration period would be awesome :)
Yes
Slow downfall was from 1700. K&G is a biased Europeon history channel. When europeons lose it was always "fought heroic", someone fleed or a natural disaster.
@@MrCommandert10 I'd say it started early 1600's but it's subjective matter. Some say after Suleiman died the decline started and some say after siege of Vienna 1684. Take your pick :)
I've been waiting for this! I've been wondering about the ottoman civil war!
can you please do one on the goryeo-khitan war and on the famous general, Kang Gam Chan who’s on par with Yi Soon Shin as one of Korea’s generational one of a kind generals
I cant wait for the next episode🥰, i hope you will release the videos about the ottoman history sooner in the future!
“Hungary was busy with conflicts in Bohemia” imagine losing a battle to an army with blind commander lmao