Thank you for sharing, really puts into perspective how strong the Japanese are at judo, if these are mainly high schoolers then the seniors and masters are truly frightening. Hope I can get to that level some day!
Absolutely! It takes some increased level of training in your club with your top judoka, and the expectation of regular travel around the World to best locations to improve training and also competing
too true. Fair comment on the changing emphasis of judo. Over many years this is probably the biggest change in judo - apart from limiting judo techniques, by short sighted? administrators.
I really like this video. So useful to watch randori and the master point out what they're doing. It is as good as watching a World Championships video; in fact it is even more instructive.
Judo requires physical strength to be effective which is why I don’t recommend for beginners, all the judo practitioners that have been physically weaker than me are incapable of throwing me
@@agnikaineverdies7646 I think that physical strength is often a winning factor in Judo, but not always. For smaller people against bigger opponents, ashi waza can often work wonders. And a well applied strangle can send someone into unconsciousness.
Fantastic. Came back from class, exhausted, a couple of hours ago, but this makes me want to head back to the dojo right now. I felt a little sorry for Sam, but he seemed to rally in the end.
considering aikido is fundamentally against weapons, I believe that its strength lies there, rather than empty hand combat by trained competitors. There is a version of Aikido that is competitive, from a ex Judo teacher, they knife fight competitively. (Tomiki aikido) Actually Kano Sensei sent Tomiki as a judo student to study with Ueshiba Morehei. (aikido founder)
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One could state that shooting a machine gun is, well... much more practical than judo.
@Mister Guy where as carrying a knife is still prevalent in many lower decile suburbs in many countries. I can say that with confidence aikido helped me out more than once against knife attacks. So you obviously have an axe to grind about it, how long did you train and was your Sensei well qualified?
I think this is more of give and take randori, I like this style of practice better. GIve and take lets you practice your throws with some resistance, but without the constant stiff arming or hip blocking or people lowering their level.
It causes much analytic technical discovery and trial and error learning. Adaptability is the basis of judo. What better way than through "RANDORI" And then chose what works best and improve that with specific repetition drills like uchikomi and nagekomi
This is the best way to do it no doubt. I came from a Judo Club for a Big 10 University, which operated more like a competitive team as there was no official judo team for the university. 20-30 min randori, same time newaza rolling. Intense drilling, uchi-komi, and throwing. I went from there to a very good place but no where near the amount of randori or rolling or actual throwing nor intensity. Guys in practice would get techniques better than me and I was impressed. Come time for randori, I easily out grip them, rag doll them, sticky foot them (I can do this by easily seeing their foot work), counter them handily except for the black belts, etc... Oh yeah and the Japanese kids' Judo is magnificent.... your guy was coming around though heheh.
1:55 that's not sukui nage I think, that is firemans cary or kata guruma. Sukui Nage is when you grab your oponents pants or knees and toss him backwards.
Yes I agree, it could also be called kata guruma, the scooping action means I am OK to call it sukuinage. Perhaps investigate the variety of throws that sukuinage encompasses. There is actually a lot of resemblance to be able to use both names.
Man I just went back on the mat after about 4 years off it. I'm 44 and a green belt. Talk about being rusty it's as if I've forgotten everything. I wasn't that bad before took alot to get me down but I'm like a sack of spuds now..
Impressive judo is impressive and incredible I just wish I could have been loading this when I was in my karate class could have helped anyway to get down your on the ground before you do see a pretty cool style 🥋💪😉👍🥋
Exactly, its a thing that many Japanese judoka expect a high standard of relaxed break falls, and a competitive fighting spirit that you risk loss, and because they are in a harsh training regimen to go through high school and University judo clubs then they consider randori to be that, not to be confused with contest ( shiai ) and relaxed judo is fundamental in learning.
This is the best randori-video I've ever seen. Question about randori-mentality: these guys aren't "letting themself be thrown" right? The point is that the application of the tori is very good rather than the uki being generous,right?
More about attacking less about defending More about taking opportunities to improve Less about worrying if you get nailed with a good throw etc About 75% of contest but try saying that when you suddenly attack and need that 100% to get it
The over grip on wrist and ducking head under is a big tell tale warning the opponent is about to launch kata guruma or sukuinage. Once you get caught once or twice you will be forever wary because its a big ride over. That particular guy didn't train much by watching for most of the session, then came on and pounded the brown belt kid. He was very strong, and fresh, a bit unfair really. Got to be careful to get it in perspective, to be fair to those putting in the work load, that this sort of thing is OK for the oldies in the group, if they take care of you in the landing, all you can do is roll with the falls for safety. If you resist their action you are likely to be injured. Only fight those guys fresh!!!
I am over 60 still enjoying it but of course everyone struggles with the massive fighting fitness prerequisite to participate with the younger fitter serious judoka, just got to rein in my ego and be happy training at a lower capacity
That Sukui Nage the black belt did on around the 2 minute mark is like nothing I have ever seen. I think I could do this throw, and I would love to heard any tips the Tori could give.
The way I learned this throw is to scoop the uke from the front and spinning him back to your hip and then throwing him.I like to throw Kata Guruma and Sode Tsurikomi Goshi, so I think this throw could be possible for me.I just referenced my "Kodokan Judo Throwing Techniques" and it appears to be like a scooping Tani Otoshi, but page 50 has a more-like Kata Guruma / Sukui-nage, but it throws forward not backward.I too have been training for about 30 years, while I started at that time. I would gratefully appreciate any references you could give on this suplex-style Sukui-nage. Is there anyway to talk to the Tori or another skilled Sukui-nage user or yourself could give me a walk through?
That obi tori gaeshi is hikkomi gaeshi. I keep on having this argument with people. Obi tori gaeshi isn't a roll; it's more about lifting with the hips and dumping. Extreme versions are almost like tawara gaeshi.
The Japanese team was from Kansai, all from Judo High Schools and probably graduated Judo Junior High Schools, meaning 6/7 days a week x between 2 to 4 hours training per day on the mats, and an hour or more every morning building body, probably 6 years of this intensity. Fantastic skills and relaxed style.
Thank you. I'm wondering if it's possible to exercise by visiting the Judo Field on a personal trip, not by participating in the training camp. I need you to tell me how to get in touch with that ledge. E-mail address and kakaotalk are good, too.
The promotion of MMA (and BJJ's success in MMA) is what really made the sport explode in recent years. While Judo is very effective in real life situations, its not as effective as BJJ in an MMA match where they're not wearing attire you can establish a grip on. Yes, there are no-gi throws, but no-gi bjj will shine more in that situation. Also, IJF is not helping with their strict rules such as their recent ban on judokas migrating to other combat sports and coming back to judo. Restrictions like these are big turn-offs for prospective judoka. Judo is also much tougher on the body, more injury prone, and usually has a steeper learning curve. You can still have trouble throwing someone in a real-life situation correctly after one year of training Judo, while a year bjj practitioner would have an easier time submitting(or choking/breaking an arm/etc) someone on the street; generally speaking.
To be honest, both are great sports with inspiring philosophies. Specially because they came from the same root: First you had the Samurai Ju Jutsu -> Then it inspired the creation of Judo -> From Judo, the BJJ was born. However, the problem is what people are doing to BJJ! While Judo is: (a) extremely organized (Unified federations and stuff); (b) practically all Judokas preach respect and discipline outside and mostly inside the dojo; (c) Well standardized when it comes to competition, rules and behavior; (d) Recognized in the Olympics. BJJ is becoming: (a) Segregated (Too many conflicts involving different Teams) ; (b) Several Brazilian Martial Arts Academy won't give a damn about respecting teammates and using BJJ as a discipline and respect tool; (c) Many videos around the globe are spreading a bad image of what BJJ is supposed to be (making it look like a sport for bullies, for example). ------------------------------------------------------------ Of course there are good BJJ institutions, but with the following years and popularization of the sport they are becoming less and less usual. About the technical differences between each sport: There are none. As I mentioned in the beginning, BJJ was born from JUDO, and Judo came from the Samurai Ju Jutsu. Therefore, what makes them look so different apart are the rules of what can be done in an official competition. Apart of that, both have the same chokes, immobilization, throwing techniques and kansetsu waza (joint locks). To finish the explanation, here's what is more common: - Judokas fight with a great posture and throw people more beautifully; - BJJ fighters have better ground work. In the end, it all depends on who is practicing. If you're Judoka, all have to do is work harder on the ground then you'll be complete. If you're BJJ, work harder on the throws and posture and you will be complete. Be honest and respectful with your teammates and don't make stupid fights against other academies. United the sport.
@MartialMallow Okay, I could tell by your earlier comments that you were biased and in favor of bjj (fine), but this comment just takes the cake. "Most modern bjj throws are now better " --based on what? Just because wrestling has influenced bjj(as if Judo hasn't changed at all)? There are also other styles of evolved judo: Korean, French, Russian, etc. who have added their own elements to the sport overtime as well; not to mention Kosen judo. And, because of the rule set, there is actually more you can carry over from to judo to bjj than vice versa. In almost all bjj matches I've watched that consist of a judoka and a bjj practitioner, the bjj fighter doesn't even try to throw the judoka, and instead goes for shoots and crouches low with his hips out to avoid being thrown and slammed --I really don't know where you're getting this from. ua-cam.com/video/yMLXcodR7Qk/v-deo.html
It's surprising how different this is compared to my club's randori. For example I can count on two hands how many times I've seen a successful seoi nage as everyone is really good at countering with utsuri goshi (takes a lot of strength but if you can do it it's really hard for the opponent to escape). It's got to the point that people will push forward to bait the seoi nage just to counter it. I don't even attempt it anymore, I just use it as a feint and then turn back with an o uchi gari.
Yes I understand. Randori is very different once judoka actually develop positive attacking mind-sets, and don't sit back and counter everything the opponent attempts. There is always a risk/effort line that challenges your self belief. Directed randori is where Sensei plays a role and discourages or bans countering throws so judoka learn to risk forwards throws without fear of failure that dogs many judoka. Negative or countering judo pervades some clubs/countries judo to the point it becomes dominant. It is the opposite spirit to that which Sensei should endeavour to cultivate in club. It can even destroy and warp the confidence and credibility in development of everyone.
@@JudoLife coming back to this a year later - I was wrong about the throw, it's usually ura nage or Tani otoshi that people counter with. Since your comment though I've been trying to use seoi nage a lot more in randori, regardless of whether I'm countered, both ippon and morote, right and left. Seoi nage will always be a difficult throw to get right, but my timing and speed is so much better now that uki is ususlly too off-balance to counter, even when the throw itself fails, so thanks for the advice.
Yes I agree 100%, full of challenges, technical, physical and mental, and fighting spirit without being too damaging. Fantastic personal development. we grow better citizens too. Judoka become more humble and considerate.
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I can hear each one every throw saying Dude Dude chill!
the first day was the worst, when they asserted themselves as dominant over the resident New Caledonians, along with us and other visitors. It was after the tournament but that was really quite a day. Strong judoka from big commitment judo athlete programmes. Saw some glorious judo that day.
Yes, true, that still means tomoenage, like kezure kesa gatame is still kesa gatame. The more descriptive name of the throw helps define the direction, but that's not the technique name.
when u compare this to British judo the judo above is far superior and not stiff arming or strength pulling but pure technique, in British judo being thrown is a sign of weakness and bad form i am taking about British judo association. seo nagi is not back carry throw but the shoulder throw, it is also called ippon seo nage
Sorry I thought I replied but cant of posted. There are a few different seoinage done under the same heading, correct spelling is same as pronunciation, se (back) oi (refers to "carry") nage (throw) from the kanji. It isnt seo nagi. That's a well worn mispronunciation. Accepted translation is shoulder throw, but in my , and other fluent Japanese speakers opinion back carry throw is more descriptive of the action and more correct and would give better understanding of the action.
Judo is extremely difficult to get good at or enjoy because you can only practice within a class. With boxing, muay Thai, wrestling and definitely BJJ you can meet up with friends outside of class and practice. This is how iv learnt boxing over the years. With judo this is impossible. Girly firstly it's never encouraged by the coaches who just want you in there lessons. And the need for crash mats. But there is ways of practising lightly. However judo people won't go out the comfort zone
It happens and encouraged here, a mattress on the ground outside and extra training outside official hours. It's a matter of security and hire charges, if you overcome those responsibilities then additional training can happen. Once a lock up procedure gets too wide it can allow burglars in from my past experience, so just a few opportunities for developing judoka here.
I used to as well... first loved seoinage, 5-13 years old. Then ouchi gari 14-16 years, then osoto gari 17 yrs old, then uchimata 18-25 years, then sode tsuri komi goshi 26-32 years and back to uchimata again... up to 45 years, now at 57 years ashi waza and sutemi waza (7 years at least on ashibarai )
The other way around, he knows how to land, so is not afraid to fly..... That is the first stage of judo ability... competency in falling is part 1 of a 3 stage evolution in learning powerful technical judo. Part 2 is hip defence with superior posture... Part 3 is countering and attacking. JUDO EVOLUTION.
Thank you for sharing, really puts into perspective how strong the Japanese are at judo, if these are mainly high schoolers then the seniors and masters are truly frightening. Hope I can get to that level some day!
Absolutely! It takes some increased level of training in your club with your top judoka, and the expectation of regular travel around the World to best locations to improve training and also competing
Wonderful randori- so good to see judo practice without endless kumikata.
too true. Fair comment on the changing emphasis of judo. Over many years this is probably the biggest change in judo - apart from limiting judo techniques, by short sighted? administrators.
I really like this video. So useful to watch randori and the master point out what they're doing. It is as good as watching a World Championships video; in fact it is even more instructive.
I love videos of people sparring. It's like learning theory but when I'm lazy.
1:41 top left of screen XD
What's there
🤣🤣🤣🤣
A very nice way to put things into a dynamic perspective versus always static as always shown. I appreciate you uploading this :)
The orange belt fighting the black belt in the background is how I am all the time at judo lmao
Same.
My videos are embarassing, but...
Judo requires physical strength to be effective which is why I don’t recommend for beginners, all the judo practitioners that have been physically weaker than me are incapable of throwing me
@@agnikaineverdies7646 I think that physical strength is often a winning factor in Judo, but not always. For smaller people against bigger opponents, ashi waza can often work wonders. And a well applied strangle can send someone into unconsciousness.
@@agnikaineverdies7646 I've gotten my ass kicked by plenty of girls and old men. Strength isn't everything.
@@carlosperezdelema that's because you're a bitch
You can't be lazy. You have to be busy!
Best advice.
I've probably watchd this video over 50 times XD beautiful display of randori
Yes the quality of judoka from Tokyo was great
Fantastic. Came back from class, exhausted, a couple of hours ago, but this makes me want to head back to the dojo right now. I felt a little sorry for Sam, but he seemed to rally in the end.
it was a hard camp but you cant make the perfect omelette without cracking a few eggs
@@JudoLife Ha! Very true, Graeme.
I love this sport. Its passion
Ich auch
Ich auch
Outstanding! Absolutely love Randori.
wonderful and gentle randori, good work!
Much more practical than aikido
considering aikido is fundamentally against weapons, I believe that its strength lies there, rather than empty hand combat by trained competitors. There is a version of Aikido that is competitive, from a ex Judo teacher, they knife fight competitively. (Tomiki aikido) Actually Kano Sensei sent Tomiki as a judo student to study with Ueshiba Morehei. (aikido founder)
One could state that shooting a machine gun is, well... much more practical than judo.
Aikido's principles complement judo like snow to a tall mountain. The principles of Aikido are fully sensible, and constantly demonstrated in judo.
@Mister Guy where as carrying a knife is still prevalent in many lower decile suburbs in many countries. I can say that with confidence aikido helped me out more than once against knife attacks. So you obviously have an axe to grind about it, how long did you train and was your Sensei well qualified?
A beautiful demonstration of a beautiful art.
I think this is more of give and take randori, I like this style of practice better. GIve and take lets you practice your throws with some resistance, but without the constant stiff arming or hip blocking or people lowering their level.
Learning by doing. I remember the first time I did randori 6 years ago. So disappointed but you keep at it and you will learn and grow.
It causes much analytic technical discovery and trial and error learning. Adaptability is the basis of judo. What better way than through "RANDORI" And then chose what works best and improve that with specific repetition drills like uchikomi and nagekomi
Pro Judo where is this judo club at?
Pro Judo I guess in France judging by the signs on the wall
New Caledonia, Oceania Union.
This is the best way to do it no doubt. I came from a Judo Club for a Big 10 University, which operated more like a competitive team as there was no official judo team for the university. 20-30 min randori, same time newaza rolling. Intense drilling, uchi-komi, and throwing. I went from there to a very good place but no where near the amount of randori or rolling or actual throwing nor intensity. Guys in practice would get techniques better than me and I was impressed. Come time for randori, I easily out grip them, rag doll them, sticky foot them (I can do this by easily seeing their foot work), counter them handily except for the black belts, etc...
Oh yeah and the Japanese kids' Judo is magnificent.... your guy was coming around though heheh.
First throw was beautiful.
Please do more vids like this!
I don’t go to those judo camps very often
Amazing technique+timing on display there!
I love this video. Wish I could like more.
This is awesome, never seen Sukui nage
Very nice indeed
well edited, so educational vid!
thanks
Any one know other names for the throw at 2:39, i think its more of a kosoto or ashiwaza technique against the far leg from the rear?
Tani Otoshi (in my opinion )
That man took some throws, good effort
Bravo très courageux 👏👍
Awesome video
1:55 that's not sukui nage I think, that is firemans cary or kata guruma. Sukui Nage is when you grab your oponents pants or knees and toss him backwards.
Yes I agree, it could also be called kata guruma, the scooping action means I am OK to call it sukuinage. Perhaps investigate the variety of throws that sukuinage encompasses. There is actually a lot of resemblance to be able to use both names.
Sam learning there’s levels to this game
Very very good ronrodee
Man this is beatiful.. I wish i was as fluid doing randori as these guys...
They are full time judo athletes since a Junior High School.
@@JudoLife I can see they're very high level judokas. Hope i reach half of their level some day so i can have even more fun doing randori
Man I just went back on the mat after about 4 years off it. I'm 44 and a green belt. Talk about being rusty it's as if I've forgotten everything. I wasn't that bad before took alot to get me down but I'm like a sack of spuds now..
Those feels bro
1:29 is the most beautiful thing ever
I have judo today! I’ll try to use one of the moves 🤗
Judo Forever♥️
Impressive judo is impressive and incredible I just wish I could have been loading this when I was in my karate class could have helped anyway to get down your on the ground before you do see a pretty cool style 🥋💪😉👍🥋
Glad you enjoyed it!
nice safe throwing. very beautiful.
Exactly, its a thing that many Japanese judoka expect a high standard of relaxed break falls, and a competitive fighting spirit that you risk loss, and because they are in a harsh training regimen to go through high school and University judo clubs then they consider randori to be that, not to be confused with contest ( shiai ) and relaxed judo is fundamental in learning.
Brilliant video.
This kids gonna be awesome. With all that practice.
2 of the 3 cadets are still active, those 2 are both awesome
Nice technical Randori. Fun to watch. where is it?
New Caledonia
@@JudoLife Oh it is far from Tokyo.
@@animalizaki Yes, Oceania region of IJF, in Polynesia. It is a French Territory.
@@JudoLife Good luck everyone!
Wow humbling to watch im a yellow belt on the path to find a move that fits me so far hip throws lol
Yellow belt, heaps of time yet to decide by green/blue your favourite to get you the black belt.
This is the best randori-video I've ever seen. Question about randori-mentality: these guys aren't "letting themself be thrown" right? The point is that the application of the tori is very good rather than the uki being generous,right?
More about attacking
less about defending
More about taking opportunities to improve
Less about worrying if you get nailed with a good throw etc
About 75% of contest but try saying that when you suddenly attack and need that 100% to get it
Do you have a video on how to do that sukui nage variation? I've never seen that variation anywhere else.
The over grip on wrist and ducking head under is a big tell tale warning the opponent is about to launch kata guruma or sukuinage. Once you get caught once or twice you will be forever wary because its a big ride over. That particular guy didn't train much by watching for most of the session, then came on and pounded the brown belt kid. He was very strong, and fresh, a bit unfair really. Got to be careful to get it in perspective, to be fair to those putting in the work load, that this sort of thing is OK for the oldies in the group, if they take care of you in the landing, all you can do is roll with the falls for safety. If you resist their action you are likely to be injured. Only fight those guys fresh!!!
@@JudoLife not sure I want to fight those animals ever.
Beautiful stuff. I'm over 50. Still want to do Judo
I am over 60 still enjoying it but of course everyone struggles with the massive fighting fitness prerequisite to participate with the younger fitter serious judoka, just got to rein in my ego and be happy training at a lower capacity
0:27 mounth of mointain
That Sukui Nage the black belt did on around the 2 minute mark is like nothing I have ever seen. I think I could do this throw, and I would love to heard any tips the Tori could give.
French judo man, it was pretty standard sukui-nage 30 years ago,
The way I learned this throw is to scoop the uke from the front and spinning him back to your hip and then throwing him.I like to throw Kata Guruma and Sode Tsurikomi Goshi, so I think this throw could be possible for me.I just referenced my "Kodokan Judo Throwing Techniques" and it appears to be like a scooping Tani Otoshi, but page 50 has a more-like Kata Guruma / Sukui-nage, but it throws forward not backward.I too have been training for about 30 years, while I started at that time. I would gratefully appreciate any references you could give on this suplex-style Sukui-nage. Is there anyway to talk to the Tori or another skilled Sukui-nage user or yourself could give me a walk through?
Sparring is fundamental in bjj, wrestling, boxing and mma too.
Randorri ushii mata Très magnifique
Perfect technique.
That obi tori gaeshi is hikkomi gaeshi. I keep on having this argument with people. Obi tori gaeshi isn't a roll; it's more about lifting with the hips and dumping. Extreme versions are almost like tawara gaeshi.
Incredible video!!!
The brown belt kid is a trooper!
This looks like some fun mayhem with that many people sparring all at once
Camps are great.
Good, very good.
Waaw ☺️ good
Sukui Nage; also known as the German Suplex.
great judo....
The Japanese team was from Kansai, all from Judo High Schools and probably graduated Judo Junior High Schools, meaning 6/7 days a week x between 2 to 4 hours training per day on the mats, and an hour or more every morning building body, probably 6 years of this intensity. Fantastic skills and relaxed style.
Where is this?
How I miss Judo!
come back...dont leave us...tears
Where is this dojo: country, city?
Training camp in New Caledonia
Ohhh fantastique judo.
Thank you. I'm wondering if it's possible to exercise by visiting the Judo Field on a personal trip, not by participating in the training camp. I need you to tell me how to get in touch with that ledge. E-mail address and kakaotalk are good, too.
The Japanese students usually come to the camp each year. Only the locals are there if you visit outside camp time.
Great I subbed!
If I go to New Caledonia, can I exercise there?
Not really unless you go to this annual camp at their invite, they will be happy if you go.
please contact their judo office to ask, or I might be able to help you contact them.
nice video
Sukui-nage 👏
Neic I love it
Judo is really cool don´t understand why everybody going into BJJ ? you got it all in judo
both are cool... but in bjj we continue after the fall, in judo normally not :)
MartialMallow thank you ! that was a fair answer
The promotion of MMA (and BJJ's success in MMA) is what really made the sport explode in recent years. While Judo is very effective in real life situations, its not as effective as BJJ in an MMA match where they're not wearing attire you can establish a grip on. Yes, there are no-gi throws, but no-gi bjj will shine more in that situation. Also, IJF is not helping with their strict rules such as their recent ban on judokas migrating to other combat sports and coming back to judo. Restrictions like these are big turn-offs for prospective judoka. Judo is also much tougher on the body, more injury prone, and usually has a steeper learning curve. You can still have trouble throwing someone in a real-life situation correctly after one year of training Judo, while a year bjj practitioner would have an easier time submitting(or choking/breaking an arm/etc) someone on the street; generally speaking.
To be honest, both are great sports with inspiring philosophies. Specially because they came from the same root:
First you had the Samurai Ju Jutsu -> Then it inspired the creation of Judo -> From Judo, the BJJ was born.
However, the problem is what people are doing to BJJ!
While Judo is:
(a) extremely organized (Unified federations and stuff);
(b) practically all Judokas preach respect and discipline outside and mostly inside the dojo;
(c) Well standardized when it comes to competition, rules and behavior;
(d) Recognized in the Olympics.
BJJ is becoming:
(a) Segregated (Too many conflicts involving different Teams) ;
(b) Several Brazilian Martial Arts Academy won't give a damn about respecting teammates and using BJJ as a discipline and respect tool;
(c) Many videos around the globe are spreading a bad image of what BJJ is supposed to be (making it look like a sport for bullies, for example).
------------------------------------------------------------
Of course there are good BJJ institutions, but with the following years and popularization of the sport they are becoming less and less usual.
About the technical differences between each sport: There are none. As I mentioned in the beginning, BJJ was born from JUDO, and Judo came from the Samurai Ju Jutsu.
Therefore, what makes them look so different apart are the rules of what can be done in an official competition. Apart of that, both have the same chokes, immobilization, throwing techniques and kansetsu waza (joint locks).
To finish the explanation, here's what is more common:
- Judokas fight with a great posture and throw people more beautifully;
- BJJ fighters have better ground work.
In the end, it all depends on who is practicing. If you're Judoka, all have to do is work harder on the ground then you'll be complete. If you're BJJ, work harder on the throws and posture and you will be complete. Be honest and respectful with your teammates and don't make stupid fights against other academies. United the sport.
@MartialMallow Okay, I could tell by your earlier comments that you were biased and in favor of bjj (fine), but this comment just takes the cake. "Most modern bjj throws are now better " --based on what? Just because wrestling has influenced bjj(as if Judo hasn't changed at all)? There are also other styles of evolved judo: Korean, French, Russian, etc. who have added their own elements to the sport overtime as well; not to mention Kosen judo. And, because of the rule set, there is actually more you can carry over from to judo to bjj than vice versa. In almost all bjj matches I've watched that consist of a judoka and a bjj practitioner, the bjj fighter doesn't even try to throw the judoka, and instead goes for shoots and crouches low with his hips out to avoid being thrown and slammed --I really don't know where you're getting this from.
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Mistura boa de judô com krav maga duas artes marciais Boas
Valerie is a black belt in Judoka
who is Valerie
It's surprising how different this is compared to my club's randori. For example I can count on two hands how many times I've seen a successful seoi nage as everyone is really good at countering with utsuri goshi (takes a lot of strength but if you can do it it's really hard for the opponent to escape). It's got to the point that people will push forward to bait the seoi nage just to counter it. I don't even attempt it anymore, I just use it as a feint and then turn back with an o uchi gari.
Yes I understand. Randori is very different once judoka actually develop positive attacking mind-sets, and don't sit back and counter everything the opponent attempts. There is always a risk/effort line that challenges your self belief. Directed randori is where Sensei plays a role and discourages or bans countering throws so judoka learn to risk forwards throws without fear of failure that dogs many judoka. Negative or countering judo pervades some clubs/countries judo to the point it becomes dominant. It is the opposite spirit to that which Sensei should endeavour to cultivate in club. It can even destroy and warp the confidence and credibility in development of everyone.
@@JudoLife coming back to this a year later - I was wrong about the throw, it's usually ura nage or Tani otoshi that people counter with. Since your comment though I've been trying to use seoi nage a lot more in randori, regardless of whether I'm countered, both ippon and morote, right and left. Seoi nage will always be a difficult throw to get right, but my timing and speed is so much better now that uki is ususlly too off-balance to counter, even when the throw itself fails, so thanks for the advice.
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good point.
many do have kiai, when a big effort happens. Especially Japanese judoka.
Ossu from here Kyokushin Brasil.
Great vid. Best sport ever
Yes I agree 100%, full of challenges, technical, physical and mental, and fighting spirit without being too damaging. Fantastic personal development. we grow better citizens too. Judoka become more humble and considerate.
I can hear each one every throw saying
Dude Dude chill!
the first day was the worst, when they asserted themselves as dominant over the resident New Caledonians, along with us and other visitors. It was after the tournament but that was really quite a day. Strong judoka from big commitment judo athlete programmes.
Saw some glorious judo that day.
I would say that was a yoko tomoe nage more than a tomoe nage x)
Yes, true, that still means tomoenage, like kezure kesa gatame is still kesa gatame. The more descriptive name of the throw helps define the direction, but that's not the technique name.
1:29 man wtf this reflexes
Attacking without managing to draw balance and getting countered? Obviously reflexes are on a different level.
? just saying nice timing
Great skills, great Judo.
Show!Oss.
Me being a yellow belt with 20 yso🙃. I often think that I started a bit too late. Well, there's no use complaining now.
Enjoy judo at any level
I’m 18, is it too late to learn judo?
not too late, one of my sensei started at 28 years and made 8th dan black belt grade.
He’s a Kiwi! Woop woop
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It’s the same kid getting tossed around by EVERY. ONE.
It'susual, I was just following this judoka I coach, we all get thrown a lot to learn
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Thanks
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This is beautiful Judo
when u compare this to British judo the judo above is far superior and not stiff arming or strength pulling but pure technique,
in British judo being thrown is a sign of weakness and bad form i am taking about British judo association. seo nagi is not back carry throw but the shoulder throw, it is also called ippon seo nage
Sorry I thought I replied but cant of posted. There are a few different seoinage done under the same heading, correct spelling is same as pronunciation, se (back) oi (refers to "carry") nage (throw) from the kanji. It isnt seo nagi. That's a well worn mispronunciation. Accepted translation is shoulder throw, but in my , and other fluent Japanese speakers opinion back carry throw is more descriptive of the action and more correct and would give better understanding of the action.
Tomanagi to the nuts 2:26
Bende judocuyum sari beyaz kemer olmsamda gayet iyi savunma yaparin ve gayet iyi hucuma gecerim 💛💭 kemerim:)
Good luck for yellow belt exam
Maaan, this uchi-mata was mean! 0:59
Anyone else feel bad for the kid that keeps getting dropped 😂
nah, gotta do the hard yards to improve
Judo is extremely difficult to get good at or enjoy because you can only practice within a class. With boxing, muay Thai, wrestling and definitely BJJ you can meet up with friends outside of class and practice. This is how iv learnt boxing over the years.
With judo this is impossible. Girly firstly it's never encouraged by the coaches who just want you in there lessons. And the need for crash mats.
But there is ways of practising lightly. However judo people won't go out the comfort zone
It happens and encouraged here, a mattress on the ground outside and extra training outside official hours. It's a matter of security and hire charges, if you overcome those responsibilities then additional training can happen.
Once a lock up procedure gets too wide it can allow burglars in from my past experience, so just a few opportunities for developing judoka here.
Wish we knew the original uploader....
me
@@JudoLife which university was that japanese team from and it seemed the oposite team was NZ brown belts
Few kiwis in there where is this?
We trained in New Caledonia, every year they have a similar camp.
Japanese judoka LOVE uchimata
I used to as well... first loved seoinage, 5-13 years old. Then ouchi gari 14-16 years, then osoto gari 17 yrs old, then uchimata 18-25 years, then sode tsuri komi goshi 26-32 years and back to uchimata again... up to 45 years, now at 57 years ashi waza and sutemi waza (7 years at least on ashibarai )
This guy knows how to fly. Landing is more difficult.
The other way around, he knows how to land, so is not afraid to fly.....
That is the first stage of judo ability... competency in falling is part 1 of a 3 stage evolution in learning powerful technical judo. Part 2 is hip defence with superior posture... Part 3 is countering and attacking. JUDO EVOLUTION.
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Your posture is not good. That's why you get thrown so much. Stand straight. If you lean forward, you've already done half of your opponent's job.