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How to angle your Tiger - War Thunder.
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2023
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So a lot of the feedback I got from my last Tiger video was how do I angle?
Angling is definitely more of an art than a science when it comes to doing it in real-world matches.
Terrain, cover, range, and player skill all play a huge part in deciding how much you can angle and if it will work or not.
This quick guide should give you the basics - but in the real world, practice is what will make you a king of angling and dominating in the Tiger ;)
Let me know what you think and if this was helpful!
Hope you enjoy.
Tankonaut.
Gaijin after seeing the vid: tiger is too strong lets put it on 6.7
lol XD
@@tankonaut ayo you cant denie it..
knowing gaijin and there treatment of german vehicles they would probably put it a 3.7 and move the jumbo up to 7.3
@@Feniks-the-fox Tiger ii 7.0 with IS-4M 7.7
@@mabast99sdkfz183 that’s arcade
Crew: Sir! He's angling, what should we do?
Commander: Track And Barrel torture him!
Haha. I totally agree that that is a good tactic, however in real battles soooo many people blindly shoot center of mass. Especially when a tiger comes charging around a corner ;)
The opposite of 🐓 and 🏀 torture🗿
@@tankonautMost USA players will be used to actually aiming after the hell that is 3.3 to 3.7. shermans are good, but they do not do anything for you, firepower is good, but you need to aim, armor is fine, but you cannot rely on it, speed is okay, but dont expect to flank and all that shbass. You canno turn your brain off when playing low tier and mid tier USA
@@jaegerpilot5238Fr bro I quit when I got to 4.7 because even with aiming it’s still hard to kill any same br tanks that the Soviet and Germans have
track and barrel torture my beloved🤤
Meanwhile Jumbo mains sniping your barrel from 497493927 kilometers:
Happens to us all ;)
Jumbo mains; eliminating cupolas since '44
Only real tank movie lovers knows that this song is from the T-34 movie
Haha. I could not agree more :)
not too much of a tank lover but i knew bc the t34 movie is just outmatched
I was looking for your comment😂. The scape scene when they take the T34 85?
@@yellowpig6513but also when they fight back after getting shot at the fight in nefedovo and even when Volchok destroyed the rosamunde Panther and T-34-85 cross in the wall 😂
Yeah...
I love this movie
That’s the part when the Germans tried to find them
All fun and games until an SPJ appears and lobs a 150mm HE shell at you
The Swedish meatball launcher emerging from behind a building to lob a subsonic 20-pound brick of trinitrotoluene at the Tiger:
M109G 💀
You should do some guides on lower tier tanks like 3.3. Love your content!
Thank you sir! I’m glad you enjoy it :) I appreciate the suggestion, there are some really interesting tanks around that Br. Let me have a think
@@tankonaut thank you
T-34 (1940) is a beast, excellent armor and gun
@@tankonaut The only tanks you need to cover at 3.3 are the KV's and maybe a T-34.
Yes yes please 🙏 I am a new player and don’t really know the amour and how the mechanics work in this dreadful game
Gunner : Sir his armor is way too strong
Commander : have you tried his cuppola?
Gunner : Oh
haha, I think under the pressure of a tiger bearing down on them people often panic or instinctively shoot the upper front plate or mantlet. Definitely its the veteran players that go for barrels or cupola - so then it's just down to player skill levels.
Just try tiger E lol
@@Pandope616 Even worse
5.7 tank > 6.7 tank [ ATGM, APDS, HEATFS ]
@@callmeudin5341 ohh I thought the advantages of tiger H is only it's big ass cupola
It works both ways lol, jumbo weakspot is also it's cúpula. Just shoot pzgr. To the cúpula and a well placed shot overpressures the jumbo
I never shoot at a tiger’s mantlet because it’s extremely thick and will almost always stop an is-2’s shell for some reason. Also if you see a tiger angling, either hit the lower part of the hull side (right above the roadwheels and tracks), in the cupola or the barrel. You can also shoot through the sprocket (the wheel that is powered by the transmission to make the track move) as right behind it is where the armor will be angled the least, but like shooting the lower hull side it’s a high risk high reward shot
Tiger mantlet is judged to be a space armor, but can kill him shooting machine gun spot.
Funnily enough I can get through the Tigers Mantlet with 76MM M62 Shells
@@ManThatsMental Yeah there’s a small rectangle on the right side I believe (when facing it) that is less thick than the rest of the mantlet, but it’s really risky so I wouldn’t shoot there unless you’re like a T34 (heavy tank) in a downtier.
@@maplearrow1842 jumbo is a heavy tank that can take Tiger rounds, I’ve been in battles where such has happened, but I would retaliate by hitting that mantlet and killing their loader gunner and commander.
You know you reached peak performance when you reaction angle. Especially with Medium tanks its crazy effective to anticipate Hits and angle accordingly while he shoots. Very important for the Panther turret as its Mantled is a weak spot with enough armor to stop rounds if hit on an angle
100%
Dude I was a menace in the tiger I was always angled I would drive up a straight road diagonally so I was always angled no one could kill me
Nice - Tiger's are awesome ;)
@@tankonaut can u do a video on how to use the aircraft control for atgms for ps4 plz I’m having trouble with my su 39
KV 220: 😂
@@user-vw9xn2ig8x you gave me flashbacks don’t do that
If you slap an 100mm+ shell between the hull and tracks you have an beautiful show of fireworks
The Kid named 122mm BR-412D
LOL - he is the battlefield bully!
You're one of the best war thunder guides on UA-cam
Thanks bud! I'm glad you liked it - I appreciate the feedback :)
The tiger about to be mad after I pull up
lol ok :)
@@tankonaut you a Chad
lol ok ;)
@@tankonaut 🍷🗿
As a jumbo player myself, I concur. The best way to play a tiger is just angle and wait for the opponent to reload.
Tiger vs jumbo battles are super fun IMHO :)
For the 76 jumbo users: shoot the commander hatch, but make sure that its the taller one, like the one in the video
Yep that's a good weakspot
It also works with 75 jumbo, the shell goes into the cupola at 800+ meters. @@tankonaut
Yeah but when you angle against the 76 like this you most likely will get shot through this lower part between the hull and track on the side. Whenever i play the 76mm i shoot it there and it's way easier to do so since most shermans have stabilizers but yeah this might increase the chance on long range or smth
I don't disagree with this, but you could say that about a lot of tanks. However, I maybe die to these shots 1 out of 100 times. Most people instinctively shoot center of mass or turret.
Very underrated content.
Thanks bud! Appreciate your feedback.
@@tankonaut Subcribed btw. I don't really play warthunder because I only have a laptop, don't have enough space for it. Hope I can play it one day and follow these tips. Good day sir.
Be great to have you on board sir! Appreciate the sub :)
When it comes to turret angling I found out the hard way that it is ESSENTIAL for the Tiger II because most tanks I encounter can pin the front turret armour.
Yes, it really helps! Angling is life ;)
Tiger H1 is so sad just because of the cupola sadly. Even if you move, its an easy target for the jumbo at close range.
I don't disagree that its a big weakspot, but I find people often panic fire at my mantlet or hull. Obviously I run into more experienced players who know exactly where to shoot, but that is just skill vs skill
@@tankonaut i agree!
First rule of Tiger club: Don’t be at close range
@@kimjanek646 you wont be able to cap points then.
@@ultravioletsusYoure not realy supposed to cap a contested cap with a tiger. Play it like a heavy Tank destroyer even tho it got a turret
also helpful tip. dont carry a full tank of ammo. Like who even uses 81 rounds before dying. Having that much makes you a bigger stick of dynamite if you get ammo racked
Great tip!
I only take 20-30 shells with me. I am dead before they get used up anyways and like you said, less chance of ammo rack
One of the best things I ever did was only carrying 20/30 shells, before that I was always maxed out and would brew up with any kind of pen
This is why we shoot barrel first then tracks, and finish off the tiger with a flanking shot.
Always a good method
@@tankonaut it is. But for some reason, russian barrels never take damage.
I head that barrels have different armor values and that russian barrels have the most armor - I don't know if it's true or speculation
Ur gay
Tiger with the funny cupola never scared me. but the one without is the scary one 💀
They also forget about the one weak point sticking out the top of the turret.
The cupola is a big weakspot, so yes - you have to wiggle, move and do everything you can to stop enemies getting a clear shot on it
I dont get why people complain so much about the tiger. It's an unstoppable killing machine if you understand how to angle.
I think that its probably because it needs more micro-managing to be strong than other similar tanks - e.g. jumbo. I assume a lot of new players go for the Tiger, because I often see them sitting straight with no attempt at improving their armor angle, even when on reload. Just my experience.
* Shermen firefly screams*
lol
You desereve a subscription for explaining things so good even in text
Thank you sir! Appreciate the sub!
the massive cupola with absolutely no armor:
at close range hitting the cupola isn't too hard IF the tiger is inexperienced. at longer ranges its not an easy shot
*angles tiger*
The jumbo crew: nice commander copula you got there
lol - nice mg port ;)
Cupola of the Tiger H1 aside, this basically makes Tiger Es a real threat
Yep I think the BR difference is what makes up for the cupola. Both are great tanks.
Where is the cupola?
@@aperson7266 It's literally on top of the turret. On the H1, it's basically the only thing you see on top of the turret and it sticks out quite a bit
If you have a tiger and can't kill a Sherman by just looking at it, you're bad at the game. These things one shot me every time
Yes sir - Jumbos need careful aim and play but regular shermans should be dog food ;)
Great content bro, keep it up.
A few extra tips I think a lot of tiger players will find useful:
1. Pzgr. Is better than Pzgr. 39, since it can overpressure it's much more useful. Difference in pen only starts to matter at >1k meters really.
2. Pretty obvious at this point but never take full ammo. 28 will do, 44 at most if you really need the extra ammo.
3. The Tiger E is much better than then H1. Faster, stronger mantlet, and no cupola weakspot. Plus you get rid of those grenade launcher things they put on your hull corners, makes the H1 unplayable for me. I've gotten at least 5 nukes with the E in full uptiers, mostly thanks to the Pzgr.
4. Always angle behind cover when facing russians, a good player will target your 60mm lower side armor with their pseudo-apfsds round. They're pretty harmless at range though, unless it's an IS-2 or 100mm.
Thank you boss!
Also, these are great tips! Really solid.
Every time a tiger does this to me I just aim for the lower hull, goes through every time
That's definitely a weakspot, yet I can't remember last time i was shot there?!
no wonder i keep dying to 76 jumbos even if im angled
They are super dangerous so yes, movement, angling and going for that mg port, side skirt,, or barrel shot is the key.
Commander: Did everybody forgot about me? Life is hard 😔
lol. Poor commander first to die too often ;)
Tiger: (encountering Jumbo) Panik
Tiger: (angles) calm
Jumbo: (Aims at Cupola)
Tiger: (crew knockout) panik
Lol
Would not behoove you to aim down as well for some added mantlet angling?
tbh I had never really tried that, I mostly wiggle ;) But, yes I imagine it would work pretty well!
No Angle: 2 kills
With Angle: 4-12 kills
haha, yes that feels about right ;)
Nah bro, same 2 kills, the first guy who u killed came in a plane
As some random feller who's spent too long being a tanker in WT, don't angle your turret in the Tiger 1 or 2, you can get away with maybe 20° in a left or right but it's better just to keep gun on target. Try to wiggle the gun around to prevent your barrel from being destroyed.
Angling is also quite iffy, as the armor behind your tracks is considerably thinner it's likely that if you come across an experienced tanker they will be able to take you out that way, too.
Simple way to avoid even needing the skills, be very up close and personal on urban maps, snipe with a good 40° angle on your hull on non urban maps. Avoid IS-2's, 152 anythings, and if neither of those are an issue beware 17 pounders. They hurt.
I did this and got 8 kills in a single life with my Tiger H1. I wasn't really sure if I was doing it right because I always got penned while angling but now shells bounce off left and right
Nice work sir! Glad it helped :)
Any veteran will just blast that coupala of yours 😁
But that's the secret - most people aren't veterans ;)
Wait till people learn about the weak lower side armor
@@Parkourboy86 ssssshhhhhhh
Tiger E
@@Jpz-4-5 uptiers get ya against sabots xD
The jumbo is OP until you put a 500Kg bomb on its roof and send it and its crew to Jerusalem
lol
we can also suggest you wiggle the rotating turrent left and right and wiggle the tank forward and backward to avoid having a barrel blown off
100% This
@@tankonaut I fix my grammar slightly
@@tankonaut wait why did I do this I'm typically playing the USA Or Israeli I just shot myself in the foot
@@tankonautand I'll reason why you should always be moving your tigers Hall and her is to stop here at cupola for being hit in the H model at least M3 Stuart can shoot through the tigers drivers viewport on models of the tiger in game looking for a while so codd 75s to. But the snail has a way of ruining the fun things if you shoot underneath the first side skirt and the corner of the tigers altogether chance of going through the armor right above running gear and the topside skiet
Yes I agree - i say in the video to always keep moving between shots. Movement can really make a difference and even allow some shots to impact on volumetric areas. A stationary / un-angled tiger is a dead tiger ;)
Commander hatch & barrel : am i a jokes to you?
5.3 sec reload : 🤤
When I use my tiger.. I sometimes angle in cover because angling too much can kill you.. Shermans that have 75 guns and t34 85s can kill you above the side of the hull tracks. That is why I wiggle or if there is a building near me.. I only show up my front when angling.
I totally agree. That is a great tip. Using cover to hide your sides can let you over-angle the front to tank some crazy rounds. Great comment! :)
@@tankonaut Thanks and you're welcome
Finally grat tutorial. I already touch 1 year play this game, but never understand how to angling properly when use german tank
Happy to help :)
In War Thunder, it's pretty easy to get smart and destroy the Tiger, but in real life, it was the Soviets and Americans who were beaten.
I think it really does depend on the Tiger player's ability - there are a lot of inexperienced Tiger players because Germany is popular. But when you meet the experienced ones, the Tiger becomes a LOT more scary! ;)
If you're in a Tiger E you can practically get invincible against Sherman 76s and T-34 85s by angling as your mantlet is much stronger than H1 and cupola is much smaller.Only way they can get you is by taking your barrel out.
yup :)
Realistically the jumbo will go straight for your barrels then tracks😂
Haha. I mean loads of jumbo enjoyers reply with this comment- but realistically it only applies in close quarters combat. Hitting a tigers barrel at range, while it’s moving isn’t really gonna be effective. At close range sure - jumbo players sometimes succeed in this strategy. but at the same time good tiger players are lining up a shot to your lower side, if you angle, or the mg port - which isn’t that hard of a shot when you’re used to facing jumbos. It really comes down to player skill in terms of jumbo vs tiger in a brawl :)
ST A1: you got no long life (showing HEATFS) 😎
That's a stronk tank! :)
THANKS BRO I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS THANK YOU SO MUCHH
Glad I could help - this isn't a comprehensive guide - it just gives you a basic approach. When you can hide your sides with cover, you can over angle the front to tank even bigger rounds :)
that is why you do not shoot the front or sides you shoot just above the tracks under the sideskirts
Definitely a weakspot but it takes a little time to aim accurately for it. That’s why I like to play aggressively in the Tiger. Pressuring people into making bad shots can really transform the armor protection.
When I get my hands on this tank I’m going to actually have fun
Hey there! Not to dampen your enthusiasm but I thought EXACTLY the same thing when I was grinding to the Tiger. The Tiger is my favorite tank but grinding really hard for it and hoping that is when you will "have fun" is gonna be a disappointment for you. Not that the tank is bad - its super fun, but the game doesnt really change that much as you go up in BRs - there are SO many fun vehicles before you get to the tiger and I would recommend playing as many of them as you can and enjoying the journey to the tiger :) Too many people rush ( thats what I did! ) and then burn out or aren't ready to play at a higher BR. Take your time and enjoy :)
This reminds me of when I killed a Tiger H1 in a T-34-76 (1942) because I shot through his cupola
Yep, cupola shot is a weakspot
Jumbo: 😭
IS 2: 🍷🗿
M-51: 🍷💪🗿
Tiger H1 Cupola: please dont notice me, please dont notice me, please dont notice me!!!!
lol - bushes exist ;)
@@tankonaut true, but most tigers players that i see dont use bushes =w=
U have less complication with a panther, just wigle turret if u wiff a shot and be scared of the is2
I agree the Panther is easier to play in many ways. However, I find the Tiger to actually be more versatile - maybe its just me, I am a heavy tank lover :)
Meanwhile the KV watching you as you tunnelvision the Jumbo and fail to watch your flanks: LOOKS LIKE TIGER IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
lol
Now if that Jumbo actually had some experience, it would just fire at the cupola or at the turret and one shot the Tiger.
But what if the Tiger has experience? ;)
@tankonaut The jumbo will say "oh shit here we go again"
@@PaulBauer-de1ex lol
Shoot lower side of hull on tiger, very effective counter to this angle
Yes that is a big weakspot.
CA Lorraine with the 100mm gun that has 273mm pen 😂
that's a scary machine!
Dont forget about over angling the side skirts as they reveal the weaker lower side hull.
Yes, I agree - the Tiger gets put in a difficult situation - any less of an angle and the 76mm can pen your upper hull side/front. My best advice is to try and predict where you will be shot and angle for that shot. This allows you to over/under angle to maximize your survival chances.
The Russian 85mm APCBC has some insane angle performance that can still penetrate a Tiger upper front plate when angled. Happens to me all the time.
Yes the soviet 85mm definitely has some magic angled pen
German mains when they realize that angling means no-dying:
Angling is life! ;)
The Soundtrack from T-34 fits great!
haha thanks :)
Tiger in reality 💀
Tiger in War Thunder-😿
Choss - it actually don't broke down so often 😅
:)
instructions unclear -
i angled my tiger (p) and i got ammoracked
Haha. You can absolutely angle the tiger (p) turret a little bit and it gives some protection - particularly against 90mm and down
Just shoot below the hullline on the track sprocket or whatever. That usually works since its thin enough to be penetrated at such an angle.
I agree that is a weakspot but we tested it intensively and any less or more of an angle and the 76mm can pen your upper front or upper side. You are kind of damned if you do and dammed if you don’t. The best way of course is to predict where you will be shot - but in my experience, in the heat of battle most people don’t try and shoot for the track weakspot and go for hull. Still - I agree you are right in terms of protecting against that weak spot
steady aim for cupola or undersides above tracks ...
otherwise, best thing to do is to switch chassis (LOL!) ... dump that Sherman chassis and replace it with a T23E3, move around that Tiger tank and use agility against it ... same turret but faster movement! LOL
LOL
This is a good guide and new players facing the tiger for the first time is a scary thing because you don't really know how to counter it same as the IS series or the jumbo
Weak spots for those tanks for anyone still wondering would be machine-gun port for the jumbo and lower front plate for the IS 1 and 2
Thank you sir. Yes there is a lot more to angling than this obviously ( e.g over angling when in cover ) but a lot of people seem to be unaware of even the basic approach, so hopefully this helps them. As for the weak-spots that’s a good idea for a video - thank you :)
Yea and if the jumbo shows you even a small angle of side, inside the hull next to tracks is a great weakspot
Black Prince: aww how cute, you think that'll save you *rips an apds thru half of ur crew*
The battle is generally over before the black prince gets to the front line ;)
The commander cupola:
Yep, a weakspot. That’s why you gotta keep moving and wiggling. Make that a harder target
Thanked for the tips!❤
Happy to help!
Gun port and capula is where I aim I love sniping gun ports it’s fun
Cupola is a better shot than the mg port IMHO - that can be a volumetric hell ;)
@@tankonaut yeah I agree I do that when I user bigger shells
Lower side hull can be penetrated when angling
Yeah but the hard part is telling somebody how to use a Sherman about dying in the first 3 seconds of the match
Lol
Smarter 76 Jumbo mains upon meeting a Tiger H1: *shoots the commander cupola*
Different case if it were a Tiger E instead 😂
I agree the cupola is a weakspot, but I rarely ever get shot in it. It’s just not that easy a shot when the tiger isn’t sitting still like an idiot ;) especially at range
Only problem (for Tiger Commanders) is at that extreme angle to maximize front armor you’re exposing your lower hull right behind the big front wheel where the side armor is weaker.
If you want to knock out at Tiger in this position that’s the spot to go for
Yep, in a head on engagement on flat ground at this range - you are kind of damned if you do angle and damned if you don't. Basically you will always have one weakspot. However most real games you never see a sceario exactly like this so angling more often than not saves your life - ( in my experience )
@@tankonaut I first noticed that weakspot when I got taken out by a Black Prince at 1500m through that spot on the old Kursk, after an exchange of 10 rounds each or so. Angling definitely does work though as it helped me to survive the other 9 and it alsoworks at close ranges when people are in a hurry to land a hit and will usually aim at the hull but as you said you cannot get impenetrable by it and every War Thunder player should know how to deal with a Tiger, considering it’s one of the most popular tanks you will come across often.
If you can find a good corner to hide behind, can even tuck away the cupola and just fire away
Yep, great point - using cover makes angling even more effective!
Lol commander finna get a 76mm shell from the top where he gets in lol
"IF" you shoot first! ;)
I find the 75mm jumbo more threatening than a 76mm cause of his reload rate.. if you're gonna track and side shot a tiger 1, a faster reload is essential..
Thats a really interesting idea. although, the 76 sherman for me has a 6.3 second reload instead of a 5.3 second reload - is that extra second worth the less pen?
the cupola looking quite nice rn
Lol until he turns your commander to paste
lol
Thanks, I want to use this on the Panzer IV F2 and H but always got blown to smitherins because I would angle way too much, which would expose the sides of the hull and get me sent to the respawn screen.
Yes, the PzIV can definitely angle and survive some crazy shots now and then. Btw I love the F2 such an amazing tank
if those German mains could read, theyd be very angry right now.
lol ouch!
Is it weird where i angle my tiger and i easily kill jumbos?
I allwais angle tiger at perfect degree, shoot then angle the turet. Im basicaly indestructible
Nice!
When monsters face off each other
haha right?!
bro i always angle like that and i always get killed with how i angle it i even angle it how ur angling it and i die over and over and i learned how to angle on my own i didnt even know what angling was until i did it and then watched war thunder vids and found out
IS-2 never penetrates Tiger’s turret from the front.
Yes, the Tiger mantlet is pretty trolly and can bounce a lot of strong rounds :)
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
i approve such tactics, the jumbo 75 mm is one of the players entering to 5.0 and up greatest challenges, being a bigger and whit thicker armor sherman tank, it will trow you out once you confront them since its siluete can mistake it for a regular m4 sherman, so one of the best tactics confronting it on a tiger H is the good old angle tactic, once you can dominate such tactic, the process to disable such tank is either from the sides by disabling gun barrel and track, or going for the hard way but fun way, aim for the gun pod on the front mantle to the right when front of it, you'll have to compensate partially because of the of center of the sight at short ranges
Good jumbo tips! :)
@@tankonaut thanks, i am glad some one else is showing how to use the Tiger properly since its one of the most iconic ones and it brings a smile to see people learning how to take advantage of such beast the best possible way, also great content in short videos!!!
@@cesar6302 Thank you sir! :)
Now do the same but have the jumbo shoot between your track and skirt
I mean yes that’s a weak spot but the jumbo has exactly the same weakspot?
@@tankonaut yeah but if youre gonna portray the angling then you also need to talk about how most players are just gonna choose to shoot there when youre angled anyways
hey I totally agree that it's a weakspot and I should of pointed it out - in my experience though, most players do not shoot there. 90% of people shoot the hull.
Lower side plate: Hello
me when I slightly off angle the tiger: "well, I'm dead"
lol - we've all felt that :)
The strong tank tiger...❤
Pretty sure this is a brand new move for most German mains
lol
Smart 76 jumbo player: *shoots capula, turret cheek and barrel* 💀
yeah those are good tactics and I like the 76mm jumbo ;) - that's why I say keep moving - tbh I'm not really scared of the american 76mm in a Tiger as long as I'm moving - often times you can bait bad shots.
I've faced that move many times actually with a jumbo but I've learned how to counter that it's easy for me now so that defense tactic won't work on me
Fair enough :)
Lower sides will kill at that angle
Yes you are right, but anything more or less and it can pen your upper hull. The lower side shot is more risky and takes more time to aim - and most people shoot upper hull / center of mass. also, in country terrain your lower hull is often covered.
Until the jumbo realises he can cupola shot him kocking gunner, commander, loader the track him, the hit cupola again killing gunner and tank 😮
Yes the cupola is a weakspot - so you have to keep that tiger moving in and out of cover as much as possible :)