Un grand respect à vous Eric Gérard car vous êtes un grand et talentueux pilote d'essai de chez d'assaut , et peut être le plus grand de tous ! Merci à vous pour le bonheur que vous nous offrez ! Seb
i really saw 35M$ on a DVD video ( old of 2005 ) called ( "les plus grand avions de combat de la fin du XX" ) but i just come to see you should know the real price ^^ à part sa sa m'intéresserait d'échanger un peu avec vous.
Firstly: The deal is not set... Time 10/06/2009... Secondly: How would you explain I'm currently designing a training course for Brazilian controllers and tacticians (initiated several month ago) Training courses for pilots will soon come... But maybe in ZARA you've got additional information... PRICE INFORMATION: F35: 35M$, that's cool !!!! Last intel from IDR is 183M$ PER UNIT!!! Check JANES' and Combat Aircraft Review... PLEASE UPDATE!!!
personel training ? France is selling 36 Rafales to Brazil. and they bought 78 M$ each. and we dont train the brazilian pilot. the price dont include the training. anyway if 78 M$ include the price of the aircraft itself+ all around so it s the same with the F35 ( and i saw in a DVD video that he should cost 35 M$ not 110M $. or 110M $ include TOO all the thing around ) so its 78 and 110 not 35 and 110. and anyway the the F35 isnt as good as a F22 in air supériority
@40pipoune It cant overturn a F-22 but its not the point..Dogfights rarely happens nowadays.The name of the game is the engament beyond visual range ,distances over 100 miles and more. The fighter that detects the other first will dictate the rules of engament..Rafales present radar PESA and A2A missiles are insufficient to engage from long distances like the US SUPER HORNET for instance. Rafales technology is outdated thatn why nobody buys it and its extremely expensive too..
RAFALE price includes the aircraft itself, AND any ground support equipment too.. (test bench, spare parts, ancillaries AND personel training...) I stated this ratio to enable any potential US equipment costumer to compare with the REAL price of US aircraft. And I don't mention the political price (even under Obama's administration)....
Raptor? to do what? rings and loops over NYC? Raptor is a pure interceptor, 99% of countries doesn't need this. Rafale can do all the jobs, from air to air to air refueling, reconnaissance, strikes etc... And no other can do it as the Rafale.
Because of superb aerodynamics, the Rafale can overturn any western fighter. Now, why this aircraft has been (so far) never exported? Maybe some US lobbying... Some F-35 to be sold with 110m$ pricetag... 2.5 the one of the Rafale. Can it perform 2.5 the job? The f-35 pretexted stealth capability is surprising. Orelse the US has developped the ultimate 23rd century technology?
La Armé D'lair brésilien nêtre pas bien. Préférer le Jas-39 Gripen au lieu de Rafale cé un délire! A Força Aérea Brasileira estár com problemas sérios! Preferir o Jas-39 Gripen em detrimento do Rafale é uma loucura!
Un grand respect à vous Eric Gérard car vous êtes un grand et talentueux pilote d'essai de chez d'assaut , et peut être le plus grand de tous ! Merci à vous pour le bonheur que vous nous offrez ! Seb
BRAVO GEGE
"too slow...too slow...." "all right now everything's goode"
funny!
MDR le "low fuel" à la fin!!
i really saw 35M$ on a DVD video ( old of 2005 )
called ( "les plus grand avions de combat de la fin du XX" )
but i just come to see you should know the real price ^^
à part sa sa m'intéresserait d'échanger un peu avec vous.
@deanjet Rafale is a plane to fly, to enjoy, not to kill.
Firstly: The deal is not set... Time 10/06/2009... Secondly: How would you explain I'm currently designing a training course for Brazilian controllers and tacticians (initiated several month ago) Training courses for pilots will soon come... But maybe in ZARA you've got additional information... PRICE INFORMATION: F35: 35M$, that's cool !!!! Last intel from IDR is 183M$ PER UNIT!!! Check JANES' and Combat Aircraft Review... PLEASE UPDATE!!!
no and you well see...rafale have agreat design easy to improved
@FORBAN2 I didn't mention the F-22 in my post, the F-22 is a class of its own...
personel training ? France is selling 36 Rafales to Brazil. and they bought 78 M$ each.
and we dont train the brazilian pilot. the price dont include the training. anyway if 78 M$ include the price of the aircraft itself+ all around so it s the same with the F35 ( and i saw in a DVD video that he should cost 35 M$ not 110M $. or 110M $ include TOO all the thing around ) so its 78 and 110 not 35 and 110.
and anyway the the F35 isnt as good as a F22 in air supériority
@40pipoune It cant overturn a F-22 but its not the point..Dogfights rarely happens nowadays.The name of the game is the engament beyond visual range ,distances over 100 miles and more. The fighter that detects the other first will dictate the rules of engament..Rafales present radar PESA and A2A missiles are insufficient to engage from long distances like the US SUPER HORNET for instance. Rafales technology is outdated thatn why nobody buys it and its extremely expensive too..
look for "aerobatic fly with maurizio cheli"..it is an eurofigher ride..
what do you mean?
TO FRABOLIRO: Nothing wrong having safety warnings expressed in English in an export version...
RAFALE price includes the aircraft itself, AND any ground support equipment too.. (test bench, spare parts, ancillaries AND personel training...) I stated this ratio to enable any potential US equipment costumer to compare with the REAL price of US aircraft. And I don't mention the political price (even under Obama's administration)....
Raptor? to do what? rings and loops over NYC?
Raptor is a pure interceptor, 99% of countries doesn't need this.
Rafale can do all the jobs, from air to air to air refueling, reconnaissance, strikes etc... And no other can do it as the Rafale.
Because of superb aerodynamics, the Rafale can overturn any western fighter. Now, why this aircraft has been (so far) never exported? Maybe some US lobbying... Some F-35 to be sold with 110m$ pricetag... 2.5 the one of the Rafale. Can it perform 2.5 the job? The f-35 pretexted stealth capability is surprising. Orelse the US has developped the ultimate 23rd century technology?
La Armé D'lair brésilien nêtre pas bien.
Préférer le Jas-39 Gripen au lieu de Rafale cé un délire!
A Força Aérea Brasileira estár com problemas sérios!
Preferir o Jas-39 Gripen em detrimento do Rafale é uma loucura!
a Rafale cost 70 M$ man
not 35 ...
Outdated compared to the Raptor F22