I recently took a Baer Rifle 2 class and I recommend it. I wanted a class to learn new things, challenge myself and practice things I normally don't. The class did all that and more. It was great.
Ever since I bought my first AR nearly a year ago, I've been watching all kinds of how-to/instructional videos on proper shooting techniques and I think this is the first one I've seen that talks about correct use of the Buttstock. Excellent video!
super helpful and informative, cant wait to try practicing this at the range, it make so much sense to bring the sight to your eye instead of the other way around!
The reason the B5 Bravo has that slight inward angle is the same reason those companies make stocks with convex butt plates… When you have the rifle slung and need to bring the gun up to a low ready the inward angle/slightly convex butt plate allows one to sort of roll the rifle into the pocket of your shoulder.
Similar to Pistol Grips as well, I used to just shoot with a TD Flip Grip in vertical position only for years until recently more manufacturers have began making good pistol grips with less than 9 degrees. Shot a buddy's rifle and couldn't get a comfortable sight picture or wrist angle. It really put it into perspective how my shooting style has been fully changed from strictly shooting vertical pistol grips.
This video has been very informative and precisely what I was looking for. I have a cervical spine and shoulder injury that makes it very uncomfortable to shoulder my rifle. Knowing that I can make these adjustments and still be on target is of great help.
WOW... small things nobody ever tells you but make such a difference. I wish there was a place to go and you could get help setting your weapon up right, buttstock, risers, getting your optics zeroed, It would take me so time and $$$ money to figure this all out and I still wouldn't have the confidence it was done right. I have different styles of buttstocks on my rifles and a different on my pistol, how much would it be worth for me to know what brand / style works best for me, of course the fundamental's are 80% but every little bit helps. someone should do a class where they help a newer person as myself have confidence in my equipment knowing its set up with professional help then take your class like Rifle 1. I desperately need training more then anything I can buy. I'm loving the information your videos are providing thanks
Excellent video presentation - well explained concept, simple and easy drill to work through, and immediate results! We will be using this in our weekly pistol/carbine 2gun drills and stages. Thanks!
I recently discovered a range about 10min from my house has "special use" berms where shooters can set up whatever they want as long as they don't shoot over the berm (which is like 30' high). Membership costs $175/yr and just being able to do stuff like this on my own timeline would be awesome.
Another marvellous video, thanks! I always learn so much from each of your videos. It definitely makes me want to take some classes from you. I really appreciate your clarity, and the way you break down processes and purposes to their basics. IMHO, you know you've learnt something when you have those 'of course!' moments, where what you've learned feels like common sense. Brilliant, cheers!
Great video! Thanks Drew! It would be great if you also touched on the topic of buttstock length and how it depends on the length of the hands and fingers.
I think the application is relative to your situation. Personally, in close distance, it’s negligible. When you start stretching out your shot distance, then your level orientation matters. (Which is when your reticle will really come into play)
@@tomtomtheninja that makes sense. I have always felt canting the rifle is more comfortable but have been told it is no good. The zero is the only thing that made sense to me. Next range day I will give it a try and see. Appreciate the info.
Very interesting I have always had an ar shouldered so high in my shoulder straight up and down but it wasn't very stable. Will give this a try thank you
In your shooting demonstration at 15:05, you had your thumb over the bore, which one could argue is what is the real cause for getting the gun back in line or back to the original POA. Could just be nitpicking but I think a better demonstration of the point you’re conveying would be to have an old school under hand grip vs a finger loose c clamp with your thumb over the bore. Then at the second shooting demonstration, at 16:25 you removed your thumb, cresting a hole or gap in recoil management which the gun will always go to the hole and then in your final demonstration you had a good c clamp grip. Not saying it’s not all or it’s all in the stock, but recoil management is alot more than just what style of stock you chose.
I like the lower rear of the stock to be angled or curved in to make it more comfortable to hold in low ready. Also, I've heard that women can be more comfortable when the stock is sloped a little vs square due to body shape.
I had an RBAV which it has T H I C K straps and I had to tie it up with cord in order to get a good purchase till I could upgrade. The struggle is real.
Okay, I know the AR-15 platform pretty well (I build them), and I know Battlestar Galactica, but I don’t get the BSG reference in this video’s title page.
The phrase “Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica” was uttered by Dwight Shrute in the TV show THE OFFICE. The episode entitled “Conflict Resolution” (Season 2, Episode 8)
If the instructor says the word "buttstock" 50 times in a 20min video, the buttstock might be important. P.S. Love your videos and your free targets. Keep it up!💪😎
To all buttstock engineers out there , make us an adjustable left and right rotating buttstock , since it’s mounted on a tube , it should not be to complicated , thank you .
Might require something more along the lines of the shockwave blade brace buffer tube. Regular buffer tubes have the more keyhole shape because of the adjustment holes at the bottom
I have a LPVO 1-6 haven't had it very long, when on 1x I have both eye's open I see double vision. How do I correct this? Can I correct it? Am I doing something wrong?
If when you bring the stock in it makes your shoulder crunch in and more narrow, then it's too far in. Most people should be all the way out or one click in. Everybody is different though.
Negative. In many cases, apart from rapid firing, you may need to use your optic’s reticle for drop/ranging. Makes sense to keep your optic zeroed upright. Canting makes sense where the distance is short enough for the deviation of impact to be negligible.
Always thought of the sling as the most important thing after sights. But then, it never once occurred to me that there'd be any meaningful difference between tiny curve and no curve on the stock face. Thoughts on stock relevance in DMR/SPR builds, where the expected engagement envelope is 200-800m or so? This presentation seems focused on shooting up close, and most of my shooting at a distance has relied on cranking the sling down to nearly tourniquet tight and just holding the thing still via hate and discomfort, or else firing supported and trying to just stay out of the way of the rifle while it does the job for me.
Make sure to remind your audience that UA-cam likes to un subscribe people from your channel periodically. I know that this is the second time that I’ve had to re-follow your page.
@@baersolutions I experience it too. I’ve been doing the UA-cam thing for a while and I used to be very consistent on the amount of subscribers, as well as the little income I used to receive. I made more money when I had 5K than I do now having almost 20K. I mean it has nothing to do with the money because I got into it just to help people, but as you know, it cost money to make videos. Anyway man keep up the great work you are one of my top favorite UA-cam channels, you’re also one of my bucket list instructors. Looks like I’m gonna have to fight through two back surgeries this year instead of one but hopefully once that’s done I’ll be able to get back to my regular yearly training schedule.
This guy can teach me to be woke if he wanted to....I actually never thought about half the things he said and kind want to go shooting right now. Awesome video
I found if you put the rifle as dead center in your chest as possible it’s like cheating in terms of recoil control😂 I don’t use it though because you can’t use it with a PC on
Bears,Beets,Battlestar Galactica. I live in middle Tennessee and you would think there would be pistol, rifle classes. QCB training, matches galore. Nope. The minutely amount of actual training classes are always booked out 2yrs minimum. So I watch the " best" guys on UA-cam and glean from them. Take that from the video to the range and implement it. It can get boring just because my shooting cousin absolutely hates drills. I end up doing them myself, after we have shot- with no direction or meaning behind anything. I in turn absolutely hate that. Oh well......at least I'm getting trigger time.
Tennessee is tough to do training classes outdoors. I've stopped using two ranges due to them not being up to par. I may contact Dead Zero to try a class there, but it's a little ways away from most major cities.
This was gold. I've never heard someone talk about a buttstock for 20 minutes, and make it full of knowledge bombs.
I recently took a Baer Rifle 2 class and I recommend it. I wanted a class to learn new things, challenge myself and practice things I normally don't. The class did all that and more. It was great.
Thanks bud
@@baersolutions I'll try anything once, makes sense thanks bud
Grand thumb always recommends this guy never knew he had a UA-cam channel! Fuckin love this guy already
This is the most in depth overview and instruction guide of your buttstock and how to manipulate it I've ever seen.
Ever since I bought my first AR nearly a year ago, I've been watching all kinds of how-to/instructional videos on proper shooting techniques and I think this is the first one I've seen that talks about correct use of the Buttstock. Excellent video!
Best discussion I’ve seen about the buttstock placement and recoil management! Thanks for creating this content.
My wife put her phone down and watched this with me.
Best video ever in my book.
super helpful and informative, cant wait to try practicing this at the range, it make so much sense to bring the sight to your eye instead of the other way around!
The reason the B5 Bravo has that slight inward angle is the same reason those companies make stocks with convex butt plates… When you have the rifle slung and need to bring the gun up to a low ready the inward angle/slightly convex butt plate allows one to sort of roll the rifle into the pocket of your shoulder.
Similar to Pistol Grips as well, I used to just shoot with a TD Flip Grip in vertical position only for years until recently more manufacturers have began making good pistol grips with less than 9 degrees. Shot a buddy's rifle and couldn't get a comfortable sight picture or wrist angle. It really put it into perspective how my shooting style has been fully changed from strictly shooting vertical pistol grips.
Look at that badass turretcap on the LPVO! Always a pleasure listening to you Drew.
I was working on this at the range last week, but I didn't know I was working on this. Thank you for explaining it so well.
This video has been very informative and precisely what I was looking for. I have a cervical spine and shoulder injury that makes it very uncomfortable to shoulder my rifle. Knowing that I can make these adjustments and still be on target is of great help.
WOW... small things nobody ever tells you but make such a difference. I wish there was a place to go and you could get help setting your weapon up right, buttstock, risers, getting your optics zeroed, It would take me so time and $$$ money to figure this all out and I still wouldn't have the confidence it was done right. I have different styles of buttstocks on my rifles and a different on my pistol, how much would it be worth for me to know what brand / style works best for me, of course the fundamental's are 80% but every little bit helps. someone should do a class where they help a newer person as myself have confidence in my equipment knowing its set up with professional help then take your class like Rifle 1. I desperately need training more then anything I can buy. I'm loving the information your videos are providing thanks
I absolutely love your channel, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us modern minutemen/prepared citizens
Excellent video and information on shoulder placement, stability and recoil management, especially when shooting in kit. Thanks!
This is great. No nonsense instruction.
Excellent video presentation - well explained concept, simple and easy drill to work through, and immediate results! We will be using this in our weekly pistol/carbine 2gun drills and stages. Thanks!
What a great teaching!
I recently discovered a range about 10min from my house has "special use" berms where shooters can set up whatever they want as long as they don't shoot over the berm (which is like 30' high). Membership costs $175/yr and just being able to do stuff like this on my own timeline would be awesome.
Take advantage of it. Ours is almost 500 a year
Thanks, that’s the best vid on the AR15 set up for me yet.
Shoulder pocket forward helped me at the range last week
Another marvellous video, thanks! I always learn so much from each of your videos. It definitely makes me want to take some classes from you. I really appreciate your clarity, and the way you break down processes and purposes to their basics. IMHO, you know you've learnt something when you have those 'of course!' moments, where what you've learned feels like common sense. Brilliant, cheers!
Thanks, Drew! I never thought it through like that. Very helpful video!
Great video! Thanks Drew!
It would be great if you also touched on the topic of buttstock length and how it depends on the length of the hands and fingers.
Dang, this is micro knowledge! So Good! Can't wait for 3+ likes. SUBBED NOW!
Excellent content
Wow, great video thank u
Amazing video. Could you do a similar video on sling types.
great lecture
Gah. Great content. Thank you for takin’ the time guys. You are making a difference.
Damn good camera work too!
Great info, thanks drew
Thanks for the consistent knowledge bombs. See you at a class soon!
Looking forward to it.
Solid info to refine placement
Are those Leupold shooting glasses 🔥
They are. The Switchback model.
Phenomenal video as always Drew! Absolutely love your content. Quick question, what rail covers are you running on the first rifle you’re shooting?
Magpul STR stock is perfect for me
Any tips for length?
Thank you
Another great video, I have a student that will benefit from canting the rifle. Thanks
Question about canting and your zero.... If you are zeroing with your rifle vertical, won't that impact your zero as soon as you start canting it?
I think the application is relative to your situation. Personally, in close distance, it’s negligible. When you start stretching out your shot distance, then your level orientation matters. (Which is when your reticle will really come into play)
@@tomtomtheninja that makes sense. I have always felt canting the rifle is more comfortable but have been told it is no good. The zero is the only thing that made sense to me. Next range day I will give it a try and see. Appreciate the info.
Excellent
Could you please do a video on scopes 101 for beginners. From zero to what what the hash marks mean. I just bought a night force Nx8 it has a .5 Moa
Great video…thanks !
Very interesting I have always had an ar shouldered so high in my shoulder straight up and down but it wasn't very stable. Will give this a try thank you
Ripcord rifles shoot so heckin smooth, I really want would love to get one
Good Content
Super helpful!!
In your shooting demonstration at 15:05, you had your thumb over the bore, which one could argue is what is the real cause for getting the gun back in line or back to the original POA. Could just be nitpicking but I think a better demonstration of the point you’re conveying would be to have an old school under hand grip vs a finger loose c clamp with your thumb over the bore. Then at the second shooting demonstration, at 16:25 you removed your thumb, cresting a hole or gap in recoil management which the gun will always go to the hole and then in your final demonstration you had a good c clamp grip. Not saying it’s not all or it’s all in the stock, but recoil management is alot more than just what style of stock you chose.
Good video Drew!! Thanks!
Great video, thanks 👍
Video got me thinking, I’m not even sure where I place my stock it just goes where It’s comfortable. Curious to try out the variations.
Good to know 👍🏻
Excellent! Subbed!
Switched from a b5 to magpul sl-m and i get better wrld when wearing plates
This guy is who I think about when talking about badasses
I like the lower rear of the stock to be angled or curved in to make it more comfortable to hold in low ready. Also, I've heard that women can be more comfortable when the stock is sloped a little vs square due to body shape.
what's the best kind of BAER?
love it...thanks bro
How is this channel not huge
When you say frame behind the rifle, are you shrugging your shoulder forward?
For the most part yes. We’re going to make another video on recoil management with a rifle.
This is such a fantastic video! Thanks for not being a douche bag while explaining this stuff.
Digging the slim profile of that kit. Where can one find that?
Sweet gun belt ! When can I get one…. 😄
Hopefully soon. We made a couple changes to it and as soon as we approve and materials are in, we'll get it out there. Long time coming.
Is there any conceivable reason to not cant the whole buffter tube ?? Instead of buying a canted stock? Just a thought
I had an RBAV which it has
T H I C K straps and I had to tie it up with cord in order to get a good purchase till I could upgrade. The struggle is real.
I run mine at two notches out on a a5 tube
Okay, I know the AR-15 platform pretty well (I build them), and I know Battlestar Galactica, but I don’t get the BSG reference in this video’s title page.
The phrase “Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica” was uttered by Dwight Shrute in the TV show THE OFFICE. The episode entitled “Conflict Resolution” (Season 2, Episode 8)
What ear pro are you using?
If the instructor says the word "buttstock" 50 times in a 20min video, the buttstock might be important.
P.S. Love your videos and your free targets. Keep it up!💪😎
To all buttstock engineers out there , make us an adjustable left and right rotating buttstock , since it’s mounted on a tube , it should not be to complicated , thank you .
Might require something more along the lines of the shockwave blade brace buffer tube. Regular buffer tubes have the more keyhole shape because of the adjustment holes at the bottom
I have a LPVO 1-6 haven't had it very long, when on 1x I have both eye's open I see double vision. How do I correct this? Can I correct it? Am I doing something wrong?
What is a guideline for determining how much to extend the stock?
If when you bring the stock in it makes your shoulder crunch in and more narrow, then it's too far in. Most people should be all the way out or one click in. Everybody is different though.
To me, the LWRC compact stock suits me best.
Will canting the gun require re-zeroing the red dot?
Negative. In many cases, apart from rapid firing, you may need to use your optic’s reticle for drop/ranging. Makes sense to keep your optic zeroed upright. Canting makes sense where the distance is short enough for the deviation of impact to be negligible.
Anyone know what Leupold LPVO he was using at the end of the video?
14:34, If I ever need to justify my forward assist again...
Why do a lot of buttstock companies not have anti-rotation qd cups?
To my knowledge and experience, magpul and BCM qd end plates don’t allow the qd sling swivel to turn.
You should have had sir mixalot in the background the whole time
So many references could have been made
I bet "curved out" was meant for rolling up on the shoulder. It might also be meant to compress more for shock absorption.
why is the front buis in the back?
Holy shit. They are. I put those on that upper night before and wasn't paying attention.
@@baersolutions I thought it was a new trend or something and was very confused haha
Always thought of the sling as the most important thing after sights. But then, it never once occurred to me that there'd be any meaningful difference between tiny curve and no curve on the stock face.
Thoughts on stock relevance in DMR/SPR builds, where the expected engagement envelope is 200-800m or so? This presentation seems focused on shooting up close, and most of my shooting at a distance has relied on cranking the sling down to nearly tourniquet tight and just holding the thing still via hate and discomfort, or else firing supported and trying to just stay out of the way of the rifle while it does the job for me.
Listen to what he's saying and that'll answer your question.
Canting absolutely feels more solid. BTW, Derling running a 11.5 looks like an average dude running a pistol 😅
Ha ha ha. He’s such a good dude.
It helps when you have a body builder's body as well to handle the recoil. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Make sure to remind your audience that UA-cam likes to un subscribe people from your channel periodically. I know that this is the second time that I’ve had to re-follow your page.
I wondered why I had less followers the other day. For a while, all the videos were off the channel too. Then it came back after an hour or so.
@@baersolutions I experience it too. I’ve been doing the UA-cam thing for a while and I used to be very consistent on the amount of subscribers, as well as the little income I used to receive. I made more money when I had 5K than I do now having almost 20K. I mean it has nothing to do with the money because I got into it just to help people, but as you know, it cost money to make videos. Anyway man keep up the great work you are one of my top favorite UA-cam channels, you’re also one of my bucket list instructors. Looks like I’m gonna have to fight through two back surgeries this year instead of one but hopefully once that’s done I’ll be able to get back to my regular yearly training schedule.
This guy can teach me to be woke if he wanted to....I actually never thought about half the things he said and kind want to go shooting right now. Awesome video
Drew just shut down all instagram warriors that don't shoot at all and say Stock placement doesnt matter
I found if you put the rifle as dead center in your chest as possible it’s like cheating in terms of recoil control😂 I don’t use it though because you can’t use it with a PC on
Bears,Beets,Battlestar Galactica. I live in middle Tennessee and you would think there would be pistol, rifle classes. QCB training, matches galore. Nope. The minutely amount of actual training classes are always booked out 2yrs minimum. So I watch the " best" guys on UA-cam and glean from them. Take that from the video to the range and implement it. It can get boring just because my shooting cousin absolutely hates drills. I end up doing them myself, after we have shot- with no direction or meaning behind anything. I in turn absolutely hate that. Oh well......at least I'm getting trigger time.
Tennessee is tough to do training classes outdoors. I've stopped using two ranges due to them not being up to par. I may contact Dead Zero to try a class there, but it's a little ways away from most major cities.
Is it me, or his eyes are pretty?
College poor kid watching how to operate in my room
Get it
Option 40 or 18x. Pay for college and get a skill.
The A2 community, generally speaking, is one of the most elitist, pretentious cultures around. Thanks for laying things out in a simple way.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Lol no no no nononono dont do that lmao
Talk about overthinking it
U cant make vids like this without dumping a few 5 round strings and showing us what it do
Never mind good job. I jumped the uuuh gun on that one
Black rifles matter…..😊
But those rifles dont produce any recoil, at lease any that will affect your shooting.
This was pretty cool!!! #1 subs provider -> P R O M O S M!
Great info, thanks drew