I always liked the Usher products, I use to stop in and visit them regularly when I was living in Taiwan back in 1999 and 2000. I bought several of their amplifiers.
@@garyteng999 Improving the sound of a speaker, is a combination of a few things, not just one. You probably would not be able to tell the difference ( maybe in your mind ) Check the wiring, if it's a see through jacket, check to see if it has gone green in colour, if so chance it. I use 14g silver coated copper wire. Get rid of the lugs and solder the wires direct to the drivers..
I was a dealer for the Usher line from when the Texan brothers brought them in til mid 2008. My memory exactly matches Danny's. We did very well with the Be-718, and I personally owned these speakers twice. We also sold the sonus faber Electa Amator II; that is, until we stocked the Be-718.
This cabinet isn't used any more, but I believe they still make a bookshelf using the same woofer and DMD tweeter. They previously had used DMD tweeter in this cabinet too after some drama regarding the small amount of beryllium in the tweeters
Tiny Dancers, the name given this model of Usher bookshelf speaker, were first manufactured around 2007. Their performance over time has apparently been good enough to sustain production. The original model was known for having a low crossover point at around 1.8 kHz, which is why Usher provided the drivers required to pull it off. These are endgame for a high end bedroom or office system.
@@kohnfutner9637 You did good bud. Thats how it should be making the most of what you have first. It takes less effort to do room eq than buying expensive equipment that will leave someone unsatisfied. It's a game changer for me and I can't listen to music without it. I am done experimenting with equipment and swapping. This hobby is ridiculous if room eq or room treatment is not implemented. It doesn't make sense but just fooling oneself.
Freq/db graphs only tell you how loud the speaker plays at specific frequencies, freq/db graphs don't tell you what the speaker sounds like, only your ears can tell you that.
Except, there are plenty of scientific papers written and presented to the Audio Engineering Society that clearly show a correlation between frequency response and human ear preferences.
it didn't , that would leave 1 for the Room , and Room is 6 out of 10 . So as far as sound is concerned , you could play with 40% , make that 40% sound a bit better , but overall in the Room , its just few percent of change that you could probably achieve with an EQ or positioning , no , when the speaker is made its like a guitar , it has a sound , you cant change it , its the materials and everything combined that makes the sound , you changing some wires will not change it a lot , it will not change anything you will still hear that tweeter , and that bass driver . Only with different EQ on it , and again you could use an EQ . Do you know how many people improve their sound from 6 to 9/10 with an EQ , a lot of them . But its still same speaker just different EQ setting , to get a difrent sound you have to have difrent materials , end of story and there is no 9/10 , there is no grades . You either like it or not , or you like that part dont like something else , things like that . Look , if Guitar players could just use EQ to change the sound , they would not have 10 guitars , all are electric and all have different sound and they dont say this one sounds 9/10 , they say this one has this , the other has that . Becasue they are people with ears , long term musical experience playing them selves , so they know the sound of guitar . There are no 2 guitars sounding the same , even among same models , one that is 10 years old can have some magic to it that a new one doesn't have , or vice verse . The way this video goes makes you think crossovers improve speakers they dont , they EQ them , you can do it 10 different ways get tons of different sound , but its the same speaker . You need to know the speaker like a guitar player knows his guitar the only way to learn .
@@dedskin1 thanks for that. Some people just like to drink the magic juice (we used to call it kool-aid, but many people wouldn't get the reference these days! ).
@@dedskin1 A lot of rambling to be dismissive of the comment from @soumyajitdeb3943. EQ does not fix phase problems. EQ does not fix cabinet resonance. EQ does not fix driver playing outside it's optimum range. EQ does not fix electrolytic capacitor deficiencies (proven years ago they should never be in a crossover). If EQ works for you, fine. Don't act like it is the single solution for everyone. You ever design a crossover from scratch? Upgrade parts? Brace an enclosure to tame resonance? Anything? If you did and heard no difference, good on you. That was your experience, not a universal truth applicable in any other situation.
Some hi-fi reviewer is against upgrading a speaker because the upgrade destroys/distorts the original sound signature of the speaker. I think the Be-718 clearly demonstrates the upgrade maintains the sound signature (the impedence curve, spectral decay curve, and on-axis response remain the same), but it improves the sound quality significantly. So much so that Danny's upgrade became the standard in the American market, while the rest of the world kept the original/cheap parts version. In the sports car world, the American version usually gets a downgrade (in horse power, equipment, etc) while the rest of the world gets a higher performance version, nice to see it is the other way around in the hi-fi world sometimes.
@@RennieAsh I can't speak to the difference in sound regarding higher end speakers. But I took a pair of cheap, 22 year old RCA Floor/Box speakers, and by using Danny's tips, and the guy on WATT Audio, the changes were amazing. Added bracing, caulking all interior glue points, new crossovers and each speaker getting all three new drivers each.
Nice! Question, Danny. I've got the most recent version of this speaker which is now called the Usher Dancer Mini-X Diamond. I rebuilt the crossovers and while the stock crossovers have a similar appearance and parts to these 718's in your video they did not have an electrolytic in there at all - all Rapport poly's and sand cast. I replaced all poly caps with Vcap ODAM (I know not your favorite) all bypassed by a Miflex KPCU .1uf, resistors changed to Mills, and wiring GR Research internal speaker wire. I left the inductors which were large gauge and robust. Sounds amazing. They use Diamond tweeters in these now (used to be soft dome then Beryllium) and the woofer appears to be the same or very similar. Question is, while I have not measured these I do hear a bit of a subtle ring when a particular key on a piano, for example, is hit that seems like it's within the midrange, possibly around that 1 khz area, and am now wondering if it is also due to not enough stuffing. The stuffing it came with is like a thin"sheet" of polyfill that's stapled on one side of the cabinet and wraps to the back and around to the other side where it is stapled. That's it. Should I put some more polyfill in the cabinet? I've got a bag of loose polyfill on hand, can I use that and stuff some in the cabinet? Any idea how much? Thanks!!
The ODAM is actually pretty good for the woofer cap, but it holds back openness and space in the top end. Then again, that by-pass cap will help that a little. Give a little added stuffing a try and hear what happens.
@@dannyrichie9743 Thanks, Danny! I do recall that some months later when I added the Miflex bypass caps to the ODAM's it really did in fact open things up quite a bit for sure. I've been reluctant to put a poly cap on it like the Sonicap (then bypassed by KPCU) because these diamond tweeters on these Usher's, while really really nice sounding, can be a touch toppy and revealing and I damped them down a bit for my tastes and gear. Might have to at least try some Sonicaps though one day. I'll give the polyfill a try, thanks!
Sean kind Thd insides with No Rez and maybe some glass wool near the port and behind the woofer if it’s not braced enough glue in some diagonals from sides to rear before adding no Rez
Woofer response and sound quality could be different with different amps too. Everyone has different taste and different room and audio gear. You will not know until you try it for yourself. I don't think He can design damper amount or xover that can make everyone happy. I have tested many xover parts on my DIY speakers. For example I had to switch many xover parts to make sound that I was looking for when I switched from tube amps to Tr. amp. I usually ended up using more oil cap on tweet side and less damper on woofer. Maybe he could give choices of resistors to control tweet level at least.
@@stephenyoud6125 thanks. These are robust actually. If you look up the new model, they changed the cabinet where it’s now rounded in back, full 1” thick walls, braced, and the front baffle is actually 1.5” thick. They weigh 33 lbs each. Kind of tanks. But I’ll definitely add some fill and will make sure there is some near the port. Thanks!
Danny, do you see a trend of older woofers pick up a bit of sensitivity? Wondering if the suspension loosens up over time, losing some damping? I’m currently measuring a set of late-2000’s era Energy RC Minis and seeing the woofer playing a bit louder than the tweeter at the crossover point. Great story, BTW! Always cool to hear industry experts reminiscing, highlighting how small a world it really is.
That woofer looks like the wilson watt puppy, maybe use the same magnet gauss and size, the only caveat is the 350 hz little dip that maybe affect the conga sounds and the side woods looks like a sonus faber, eitherwise I bet these speaker gives very good soundstage
Usher definitely were inspired by the Scanspeak 8545 woofer that was used in the Wilson Watt. Usher use to sell the woofer as a raw part and it was half the price with nearly identical performance.
Having just watched a video on damping factor I feel like im finally starting to understand how all these crosssover parts can matter so much and as they pertain to a specific driver. Since you are targetting drivers in cabinets and capable of changing parts in crossover+binding posts.... Is DAMPING FACTOR the key and resonances the proof of those changes in controlling speaker movement. I own the double trouble and have played switching that damping flip switch around before. Let me know if im starting to get it ahah thank you
I had a pair of these. They were advertised as having JPS internal wiring and came with two different crossovers....one was named "USA crossover" I don't recall the differences in the crossovers makeup.
Excellent work Danny , I brought a pair of these years ago . Unfortunately the BE718’s in the UK use the standard x-overs I don’t think upgraded crossovers was available over here back then . I’m into diy so wouldn’t mind upgrading the x-over components. Don’t suppose there’s a parts list ? If not suppose it’s worth changing all caps and resistors to same value sonicaps and mills resistors?
It looks like you changed the crossover typ. Your graph looks steaper then the original. Did you change it from a 12db filter to a 18db or a 18db to a 24db?
Actually, the acoustic roll offs rarely fall off in 6db steps. By adjusting the values just about any slope can be achieved, and the electrical filter order is not much different from the original.
Danny idk how you feel about reggae but you should check out "Mike love and the full circle live at home in Hawaii" it is a tremendous live recording. Mike love is probably one of the best male vocalists of his time and he is also a virtuosic guitarist and his band is incredible. It's the tightest love performance I've ever heard and it's extremely well recorded.
So they can be compared using a compressed UA-cam file played back through something else.... To really hear the magnitude of the before and after, you need to be here.
Don't tell the snake oil police that better parts sound better, because they say all wire & parts sound the same, this is because they have had their brains boiled by listening to others that have no idea & haven't listened for themselves, another brilliant video Danny 👍
You are absolutely right, I went so far as to reorient my speaker cables so that they were parallel to the earth magnetic field to avoid flux linkage. The results were amazing, greater sound stage, more open and dynamic...worth the effort...
your poking fun isn't funny have a little think about it a scam gets uncovered quickly yet the cable industry has been around for decades and keeps growing it's a huge market, sure some of the prices are ridiculous but it's not just cables ! amps speakers , source components have gone silly to. If what electrical engineers that claim there is no difference were right all amps and speakers would all sound the same and there would be no hi end because what would be the point. You can't measure timbre, tonal colours, stage depth and width, resolution, pace, rhythm, timing, yet these all exist
I had mine with crossover same like that. Comparing it to my xavian xn175mk2, i like the xavian more. My be718 xover was upgraded with high quality cables, mundorf caps and hieg end resistors by the previous owner. But the difference is not much.
I dont think the spakers were produced in China, but rather Taiwan (or perhaps you have adopted the official Taiwanese line, claiming Taiwan to be the real China?)
The guy made a (mostly parasite) business tweaking other people's work and development. If you like it - good. Truth is a DSP unit at line level would do a much better job than any of those big coils and big caps. Yes, you will need two amps for a 2-way speaker or 3 amps for a 3-way one. But the freedom you get to taylor the sound, including any room correction, is way above and beyond what Richie's tweaks offer. Distortion: about 1/10th of what a traditional crossover introduces. Try it if you don't believe it.
Actually, none of that is true. We didn't start doing upgrades until we had already been in business for about 10 years. It wasn't something we decided to do. Customers just starting bring in stuff for us to work on. Also DSP based systems are limited by the digital to analog conversion system. Some of them, like a Mini DSP completely suck the life out of the music. Regardless of the power of the tools in the digital domain, if the signal is being processed by a DAC that is the equivalent of a cheap CD player then that is how it is going to sound. Spend your money on a good quality D/A converter and front end and then use a well designed speaker with high quality passive parts and you'll have MUCH better results by a huge margin. That is why all of the top speakers are passive. While "room correction" may be the latest in buzz words like Dolby Atmos, etc. It really doesn't work. It is basically an EQ system for amplitude levels. It doesn't correct any room related problems. All the reflections that were there are still there. It is a band aid and not a solution. Distortion levels are not changed in any way with digital filters either.
What I saw in the measurement there told me that there was not enough insulation in the box. Sticking some felt in the port was a way to quickly confirm it. It was not left with a port stuffed.
@ Regardless, “stuffing” equals what measurement-wise? Did you stuff each speaker? How did you know how much to stuff - trial, error, or measurement? Hahaha My point, and my “bunged” Tannoy’s are here to validate “stuffing”. Time to measure bungs!
@@zizendorf No, sticking a piece of felt in the port was only done on this speaker (that I just measured) to see if that extra energy, showing up in the spectral decay, was exiting the port.
I always liked the Usher products, I use to stop in and visit them regularly when I was living in Taiwan back in 1999 and 2000. I bought several of their amplifiers.
Parts exspress used to sell usher drivers , i purchased a lot back in the day for custom builds . Great sounding stuff
The speaker that put Usher on the map. I knew you were involved with it, fantastic story. I always liked the Usher sound
I have done this mod on my BE 718's and the sound is great
Imagine how it would be if you did the upgrade
I have a pair of be718, just wondering change the wire in the box improve the sound?
@@garyteng999 Danny supplied good wire to me
@@garyteng999 Improving the sound of a speaker, is a combination of a few things, not just one. You probably would not be able to tell the difference ( maybe in your mind ) Check the wiring, if it's a see through jacket, check to see if it has gone green in colour, if so chance it. I use 14g silver coated copper wire. Get rid of the lugs and solder the wires direct to the drivers..
I was a dealer for the Usher line from when the Texan brothers brought them in til mid 2008. My memory exactly matches Danny's. We did very well with the Be-718, and I personally owned these speakers twice. We also sold the sonus faber Electa Amator II; that is, until we stocked the Be-718.
Well that’s awesome to hear from someone that actually worked with the actual units in their time. Very cool to hear! Thanks 🙏
You mean, Usher 718 is better than that SF Amator?
@1AB2CD3EF I mean that the Usher was more transparent, easier to drive, cost less, and was ultimately more popular with customers.
I'm just a few days away from finishing my X-LS Encores. To say I'm excited is an understatement.
Nice! I'm listening to this now through the pair I finished last year.
Always like this channel... Happy new year from Italy
Listened to the big brother Usher 6311 and I really liked that sound for sure..
This cabinet isn't used any more, but I believe they still make a bookshelf using the same woofer and DMD tweeter. They previously had used DMD tweeter in this cabinet too after some drama regarding the small amount of beryllium in the tweeters
Awesome story.
Great Story... Thanks
Tiny Dancers, the name given this model of Usher bookshelf speaker, were first manufactured around 2007. Their performance over time has apparently been good enough to sustain production. The original model was known for having a low crossover point at around 1.8 kHz, which is why Usher provided the drivers required to pull it off. These are endgame for a high end bedroom or office system.
Elton John approves your comment.
I have tried room sofware correction. Any speaker will sound better if implemented. Do this first if in a budget.
@@kohnfutner9637 You did good bud. Thats how it should be making the most of what you have first. It takes less effort to do room eq than buying expensive equipment that will leave someone unsatisfied. It's a game changer for me and I can't listen to music without it. I am done experimenting with equipment and swapping. This hobby is ridiculous if room eq or room treatment is not implemented. It doesn't make sense but just fooling oneself.
Freq/db graphs only tell you how loud the speaker plays at specific frequencies, freq/db graphs don't tell you what the speaker sounds like, only your ears can tell you that.
Except, there are plenty of scientific papers written and presented to the Audio Engineering Society that clearly show a correlation between frequency response and human ear preferences.
Had a pair once upon a time on which i modded the xover with the GR research kit. Took it from like a 6/10 speaker to a 9/10 speaker
it didn't , that would leave 1 for the Room , and Room is 6 out of 10 . So as far as sound is concerned , you could play with 40% , make that 40% sound a bit better , but overall in the Room , its just few percent of change that you could probably achieve with an EQ or positioning , no , when the speaker is made its like a guitar , it has a sound , you cant change it , its the materials and everything combined that makes the sound , you changing some wires will not change it a lot , it will not change anything you will still hear that tweeter , and that bass driver . Only with different EQ on it , and again you could use an EQ .
Do you know how many people improve their sound from 6 to 9/10 with an EQ , a lot of them . But its still same speaker just different EQ setting , to get a difrent sound you have to have difrent materials , end of story and there is no 9/10 , there is no grades . You either like it or not , or you like that part dont like something else , things like that .
Look , if Guitar players could just use EQ to change the sound , they would not have 10 guitars , all are electric and all have different sound and they dont say this one sounds 9/10 , they say this one has this , the other has that .
Becasue they are people with ears , long term musical experience playing them selves , so they know the sound of guitar . There are no 2 guitars sounding the same , even among same models , one that is 10 years old can have some magic to it that a new one doesn't have , or vice verse .
The way this video goes makes you think crossovers improve speakers they dont , they EQ them , you can do it 10 different ways get tons of different sound , but its the same speaker . You need to know the speaker like a guitar player knows his guitar the only way to learn .
@@dedskin1 thanks for that. Some people just like to drink the magic juice (we used to call it kool-aid, but many people wouldn't get the reference these days! ).
@@dedskin1 A lot of rambling to be dismissive of the comment from @soumyajitdeb3943. EQ does not fix phase problems. EQ does not fix cabinet resonance. EQ does not fix driver playing outside it's optimum range. EQ does not fix electrolytic capacitor deficiencies (proven years ago they should never be in a crossover). If EQ works for you, fine. Don't act like it is the single solution for everyone.
You ever design a crossover from scratch? Upgrade parts? Brace an enclosure to tame resonance? Anything? If you did and heard no difference, good on you. That was your experience, not a universal truth applicable in any other situation.
Some hi-fi reviewer is against upgrading a speaker because the upgrade destroys/distorts the original sound signature of the speaker. I think the Be-718 clearly demonstrates the upgrade maintains the sound signature (the impedence curve, spectral decay curve, and on-axis response remain the same), but it improves the sound quality significantly. So much so that Danny's upgrade became the standard in the American market, while the rest of the world kept the original/cheap parts version. In the sports car world, the American version usually gets a downgrade (in horse power, equipment, etc) while the rest of the world gets a higher performance version, nice to see it is the other way around in the hi-fi world sometimes.
Parts quality yes but I don't really see the upgrade from changing the values in this case
@@RennieAsh
I can't speak to the difference in sound regarding higher end speakers.
But I took a pair of cheap, 22 year old RCA Floor/Box speakers, and by using Danny's tips, and the guy on WATT Audio, the changes were amazing.
Added bracing, caulking all interior glue points, new crossovers and each speaker getting all three new drivers each.
I will start looking for a pair imported here from the US :-) Very nice video
It looks kind of like the bigger hi-vi swan powered bookshelf speakers
Great video - really interesting. Thank you
Can we tell from the serial numbers which speakers have the higher quality crossover ? Thanks
Nice! Question, Danny. I've got the most recent version of this speaker which is now called the Usher Dancer Mini-X Diamond. I rebuilt the crossovers and while the stock crossovers have a similar appearance and parts to these 718's in your video they did not have an electrolytic in there at all - all Rapport poly's and sand cast. I replaced all poly caps with Vcap ODAM (I know not your favorite) all bypassed by a Miflex KPCU .1uf, resistors changed to Mills, and wiring GR Research internal speaker wire. I left the inductors which were large gauge and robust. Sounds amazing. They use Diamond tweeters in these now (used to be soft dome then Beryllium) and the woofer appears to be the same or very similar. Question is, while I have not measured these I do hear a bit of a subtle ring when a particular key on a piano, for example, is hit that seems like it's within the midrange, possibly around that 1 khz area, and am now wondering if it is also due to not enough stuffing. The stuffing it came with is like a thin"sheet" of polyfill that's stapled on one side of the cabinet and wraps to the back and around to the other side where it is stapled. That's it. Should I put some more polyfill in the cabinet? I've got a bag of loose polyfill on hand, can I use that and stuff some in the cabinet? Any idea how much? Thanks!!
The ODAM is actually pretty good for the woofer cap, but it holds back openness and space in the top end. Then again, that by-pass cap will help that a little. Give a little added stuffing a try and hear what happens.
@@dannyrichie9743 Thanks, Danny! I do recall that some months later when I added the Miflex bypass caps to the ODAM's it really did in fact open things up quite a bit for sure. I've been reluctant to put a poly cap on it like the Sonicap (then bypassed by KPCU) because these diamond tweeters on these Usher's, while really really nice sounding, can be a touch toppy and revealing and I damped them down a bit for my tastes and gear. Might have to at least try some Sonicaps though one day. I'll give the polyfill a try, thanks!
Sean kind Thd insides with No Rez and maybe some glass wool near the port and behind the woofer if it’s not braced enough glue in some diagonals from sides to rear before adding no Rez
Woofer response and sound quality could be different with different amps too. Everyone has different taste and different room and audio gear. You will not know until you try it for yourself. I don't think He can design damper amount or xover that can make everyone happy. I have tested many xover parts on my DIY speakers. For example I had to switch many xover parts to make sound that I was looking for when I switched from tube amps to Tr. amp. I usually ended up using more oil cap on tweet side and less damper on woofer. Maybe he could give choices of resistors to control tweet level at least.
@@stephenyoud6125 thanks. These are robust actually. If you look up the new model, they changed the cabinet where it’s now rounded in back, full 1” thick walls, braced, and the front baffle is actually 1.5” thick. They weigh 33 lbs each. Kind of tanks. But I’ll definitely add some fill and will make sure there is some near the port. Thanks!
I Have a Pair, but the tweeter is broken, your best recomendation for repair this bookshelf
Contact the Usher importer and see if they can get you a replacement Be tweeter.
@@dannyrichie9743the tweeter doesn’t exist, I need a suitable replacement
Danny, do you see a trend of older woofers pick up a bit of sensitivity? Wondering if the suspension loosens up over time, losing some damping?
I’m currently measuring a set of late-2000’s era Energy RC Minis and seeing the woofer playing a bit louder than the tweeter at the crossover point.
Great story, BTW! Always cool to hear industry experts reminiscing, highlighting how small a world it really is.
That woofer looks like the wilson watt puppy, maybe use the same magnet gauss and size, the only caveat is the 350 hz little dip that maybe affect the conga sounds and the side woods looks like a sonus faber, eitherwise I bet these speaker gives very good soundstage
They image quite well after the upgrade. Wilson Watt Puppy's up next. :-)
Usher definitely were inspired by the Scanspeak 8545 woofer that was used in the Wilson Watt. Usher use to sell the woofer as a raw part and it was half the price with nearly identical performance.
Another great episode! Hey, what’s your T-shirt size, by the way…😎🙏
I wear a large. Thanks!
Is there any downside to the floorstanding version of the encore over the standmount? Does it image as well?
There is zero downside, it plays lower, and you don't have to buy stands.
@@dannyrichie9743 👍
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Nice video, Danny.
Nice. They look nice. What else about the sound?
The sound was outstanding. They won every award with every magazine.
Those loudspeakers look like my TAOC FC3000 CORONET.
Very cool story.
Why did they tilt the front?
Having just watched a video on damping factor I feel like im finally starting to understand how all these crosssover parts can matter so much and as they pertain to a specific driver.
Since you are targetting drivers in cabinets and capable of changing parts in crossover+binding posts.... Is DAMPING FACTOR the key and resonances the proof of those changes in controlling speaker movement. I own the double trouble and have played switching that damping flip switch around before. Let me know if im starting to get it ahah thank you
I had a pair of these. They were advertised as having JPS internal wiring and came with two different crossovers....one was named "USA crossover" I don't recall the differences in the crossovers makeup.
Yep, that one had my handy work in them.
Excellent work Danny , I brought a pair of these years ago . Unfortunately the BE718’s in the UK use the standard x-overs I don’t think upgraded crossovers was available over here back then . I’m into diy so wouldn’t mind upgrading the x-over components. Don’t suppose there’s a parts list ? If not suppose it’s worth changing all caps and resistors to same value sonicaps and mills resistors?
I can send you everything that you need.
buy them at 2nd hand market when they crop up for sale.
Can I still get this upgrade kits outside US? I have a pair of be718 in Taiwan now.
Yes, I can ship you everything you need.
@ Great! How do I contact you?
@@garyteng999 info@gr-research.com
It looks like you changed the crossover typ. Your graph looks steaper then the original. Did you change it from a 12db filter to a 18db or a 18db to a 24db?
Actually, the acoustic roll offs rarely fall off in 6db steps. By adjusting the values just about any slope can be achieved, and the electrical filter order is not much different from the original.
Danny idk how you feel about reggae but you should check out "Mike love and the full circle live at home in Hawaii" it is a tremendous live recording. Mike love is probably one of the best male vocalists of his time and he is also a virtuosic guitarist and his band is incredible. It's the tightest love performance I've ever heard and it's extremely well recorded.
Any thoughts on how this would compare to the Tyler T1 that you designed the crossover for and did a video on about 3 years ago?
Closely.
I do believe Usher did or still makes Tad Speaker cabinets.
this was a fun one...
5:44 I noticed one day my 718 DMD’s sounded better, my 3 yr old son had stuffed a sock in each port. Turns out he was on to something
Why does the new one have three inductors?
They always did.
@GR-Research Why don't you make a video of these speakers playing before and after the crossover change you made?
So they can be compared using a compressed UA-cam file played back through something else.... To really hear the magnitude of the before and after, you need to be here.
I read the review. That sucks that they gave credit to a Taiwanese and Apolitto
They are from Taiwan
The company is from Taiwan, but assembly is in China like everything else.
Don't tell the snake oil police that better parts sound better, because they say all wire & parts sound the same, this is because they have had their brains boiled by listening to others that have no idea & haven't listened for themselves, another brilliant video Danny 👍
I didnt buy into the whole notion of heaver gauge wires, speaker chords... I am a total believer. When I heard the difference it was UNMISTAKABLE.
You are absolutely right, I went so far as to reorient my speaker cables so that they were parallel to the earth magnetic field to avoid flux linkage. The results were amazing, greater sound stage, more open and dynamic...worth the effort...
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your poking fun isn't funny have a little think about it a scam gets uncovered quickly yet the cable industry has been around for decades and keeps growing it's a huge market, sure some of the prices are ridiculous but it's not just cables ! amps speakers , source components have gone silly to. If what electrical engineers that claim there is no difference were right all amps and speakers would all sound the same and there would be no hi end because what would be the point. You can't measure timbre, tonal colours, stage depth and width, resolution, pace, rhythm, timing, yet these all exist
Thank you for your money
Please, No KI Voice.
Thanks
How can i upgrade my Boston Acoustics cs260 speakers. Gordon from South Africa 🤗
I had mine with crossover same like that. Comparing it to my xavian xn175mk2, i like the xavian more. My be718 xover was upgraded with high quality cables, mundorf caps and hieg end resistors by the previous owner. But the difference is not much.
Oh.great, you received a Lips in LLC tee.Ickey Mickey is my favorite accountant.Im not sure if you can call his music,music.
Looks like another daughter got married. Congrats!
Ah yes, reason for his groomed haircut! lol
Well, that was two years ago but thanks for remembering it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 joy for babies
Wait isn’t he the XO designer of this speakers? Or my memory is off.
Yes, I talk about that in the video.
Toot toot!
The hi fi biz is very strange. They all have access to the same tools as you but some how it bypassed them...??????
I can give you every tool a mechanic could ever want and you still won't be a mechanic.
Or Brain Surgeon.................................
I dont think the spakers were produced in China, but rather Taiwan (or perhaps you have adopted the official Taiwanese line, claiming Taiwan to be the real China?)
I am pretty sure we shipping the completed crossovers to China for assembly.
Electrovoice is top not this...😂😂😂
The guy made a (mostly parasite) business tweaking other people's work and development. If you like it - good. Truth is a DSP unit at line level would do a much better job than any of those big coils and big caps. Yes, you will need two amps for a 2-way speaker or 3 amps for a 3-way one. But the freedom you get to taylor the sound, including any room correction, is way above and beyond what Richie's tweaks offer. Distortion: about 1/10th of what a traditional crossover introduces. Try it if you don't believe it.
Actually, none of that is true. We didn't start doing upgrades until we had already been in business for about 10 years. It wasn't something we decided to do. Customers just starting bring in stuff for us to work on.
Also DSP based systems are limited by the digital to analog conversion system. Some of them, like a Mini DSP completely suck the life out of the music. Regardless of the power of the tools in the digital domain, if the signal is being processed by a DAC that is the equivalent of a cheap CD player then that is how it is going to sound.
Spend your money on a good quality D/A converter and front end and then use a well designed speaker with high quality passive parts and you'll have MUCH better results by a huge margin. That is why all of the top speakers are passive.
While "room correction" may be the latest in buzz words like Dolby Atmos, etc. It really doesn't work. It is basically an EQ system for amplitude levels. It doesn't correct any room related problems. All the reflections that were there are still there. It is a band aid and not a solution.
Distortion levels are not changed in any way with digital filters either.
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I’m against everything this guy stands for. I can’t handle the deception I’m out .
Please explain to the audience - what deception is hurting your tender little feelings?
@ one day you’ll figure it out for your self
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Ah, I am so sorry that I hurt your feelings. Do I need to send you a little Hallmark card to make you feel better?
So, in other words, you improve this expensive-overpriced speaker by stuffing the port. LOL That's some crappy design engineering! Whatever works...
What I saw in the measurement there told me that there was not enough insulation in the box. Sticking some felt in the port was a way to quickly confirm it. It was not left with a port stuffed.
It clearly makes sense sense@dannyrichie9743
@ Regardless, “stuffing” equals what measurement-wise? Did you stuff each speaker? How did you know how much to stuff - trial, error, or measurement? Hahaha
My point, and my “bunged” Tannoy’s are here to validate “stuffing”. Time to measure bungs!
@@zizendorf No, sticking a piece of felt in the port was only done on this speaker (that I just measured) to see if that extra energy, showing up in the spectral decay, was exiting the port.