I think this theory helps explain Jevil. The shopkeeper mentions how he met a “strange fellow” and begin to think of the world as a game. This fellow was likely gaster, and Jevil thought the world as a game because that’s what it is; a game that gaster created. This is also why Jevil thinks of himself as free while everyone else is not. Everything in this world is decided by gaster. In his prison, Jevil can do whatever he pleases; and cause as much chaos as he wants. Jevil also gives you a different item depending on whether you try to kill him or not. In his world, choices do matter, if only a little. The shopkeeper also mentions how Jevil made his view of the world darker, yet darker.
Waluigi Is the best a thing in jevil fight during the horse and duck carousel phase you can see a duck with a almagamate face i saw that in a video doing the fight without getting hit
@Nicoxer for fighting Jevil, you can get a weapon for Susie that lowers the cost of her special attack by 10 tp, and for sparing Jevil you can get an armor that makes Ralsei's heals ridiculously op
@@ralphthefrog3086 Well, we don't KNOW if he created it. This theory is going on little evidence, it's more like speculation. But we do know he made us join it.
I would like to very much disagree that this is some kind of "perfect timeline." In fact, it is quite sad if you go around talking to everyone at the end. There are a number of points to consider. Any one of them individually seems like just some flavor text, but once you put them all together it paints a pretty dark picture. 1. Consider Kris and Azriel's room. Kris' side of the room is completely bare except for the cage in the wagon. (a cage on wheels. Choice doesn't matter reference?) Meanwhile, Azriel's side of the room is filled with all kinds of trophies, decorations, and under the bed is game systems and CDs. Azriel is given everything and Kris is given nothing. 2. When you explore the house, you discover a trashcan with a "floral scent." This doesn't mean much at the time, but it winds up meaning a lot later. 3. You have the opportunity to find a collection of "childhood treasures" which is called "ball of junk" in your inventory. It is a collection of things that are of sentimental value to your connection between Kris and Azriel. 4. If you try to throw away the ball of junk, Kris gets very emotionally torn up about it. 5. While you are driving to school, Toriel says something about Azriel coming to visit next week. 6. With some more talking around, you discover that Azriel is away at college. This is all you can discover before the adventure in the dark world, and this is not anywhere close to enough to start putting the picture together. However, AFTER you get out of the dark world you get to explore the town and you start to discover a lot more things that make it all start to come together, and hints about it are littered throughout the entire town. 7. When you talk to Toriel on the phone, it is subtly implied that most of your life up until now has consisted of her taking you to school and then her taking you straight home. It is implied that you actually don't get out much, and she is really surprised when you say that you were with a friend (Suzi.) Finding out you were with a friend, she lets you, presumably for the first time in a long time, wander about on your own. 8. Talk to the priest, you hear about how you and your entire family used to come to church every Sunday, but one day that just stopped. 9. You talk to the lady at the diner, you find out that every Sunday your whole family used to come to the diner. When that stopped, she describes that just you and Azriel would still continue coming with just the two of you and you would sit in the booth and draw shapes on the window in the fog of your breath and generally just hang around. 10. After the lady at the diner describes the stuff in #9, she gives you a free hot chocolate. If you drink the chocolate milk, the text says that "your throat tightens." In other words, difficult emotions being brought up for you by the act of drinking the chocolate milk. EDIT: New additional info for #10 due to second play-through. If you choose to drop the hot chocolate, you get a message "you throw the hot chocolate on the floor like the trash that it is." Recall that this is an item that is supposed to remind Kris of Asriel. This difference in whether you drink it or drop it likely represents that Asriel is always good to Kris, so Kris has good memories with Asriel, but at the same time due to Asriel being given everything by Toriel while he/she is neglected, this also causes Kris to feel very bitter toward Asriel at the same time. Very conflicting emotions. Also, if you choose to drop the hot chocolate and still have the ball of junk in your inventory, the description of the ball of junk changes to be a lot more cold and negative about it. In other words, dropping the hot chocolate causes Kris to favor his/her negative emotions about Asriel. Ok, so stuff is starting to come together now, but this next set of things really take it up a notch. 11. You go to the flower shop which is owned by Asgor, your dad. He becomes very happy and enthusiastically hugs you. He then backs off and is scared about whether or not you liked being hugged like that. In fact, he starts completely bending over backward to try to make you happy. (Very typical behavior of the non-custodial parent in a divorce situation.) 12. You examine the air mattress, Asgor's bed. He offers that if you want to spend the night with him he will let you use the bed and he will sleep on some of the bags of soil downstairs. 13. You examine the fridge, you discover the only thing in there is a single pickle. You leave it. This doesn't seem too significant in and of itself, except maybe to show that Asgor is really poor, but then you consider that you have had items like that dangled in front of you before, but every time in the past you have had an item like that you had a choice whether to take it or not. In this case, you were denied that choice. Kris absolutely would not take Asgore's last pickle. 14. You go other places in the town, you find out that, in fact, Toriel talks about how Kris is typically an absolute pig that eats all her sweets and snacks before she can even get any at all. This depicts a huge difference in how Kris treats Asgor and how Kris treats Toriel. 15. When you leave, Asgor gives you a bouquet of flowers to give to Toriel. (recall the floral scent from the trashcan.) 16. You find Alphes in the alley way. Turns out, this is her home, she is homeless. However, there are several thrashcans she is using as planters, and they are filled with flowers. Turns out, they are all from Asgor, and whenever he brings Alphes flowers he is also asking about how you are doing in school. Every single time he talks to her the first question on his mind is how you are doing in school. 17. You get home with Toriel and give her the flowers. Her reaction is mostly putting on a happy face, but it is rather clear she is not pleased. 18. I could have said this earlier, but as you go around town, there were also a lot of people describing these cruel pranks you always tent to pull on other kids your age in order to scare them. 19. As you interact with your home environment, you are treated to a number of comments from Toriel that reinforce the selfish and low-level destructive nature of Kris' typical behavior. Basically, behaviors that do nothing to cause serious permanent damage, but all of them creating little inconveniences, and the large bulk of such behaviors are directed straight at Toriel. When you put all the pieces together, it paints a story of a child with a broken household. Toriel has custody of the children, as is the typical case in a divorce. Asgor is dirt poor, probably from Alimony and Child support payments. Toriel greatly favors Azriel over Kris, as shown by how completely bare Kris' side of the room is compared to Azriel's. Kris begins acting out in ways both at home and in town that are highly typical of a child who is being neglected and abused. The one and only person in town that Kris is more kind in his/her interactions with is Asgor, shown by you never even getting a choice to take that last pickle. There is also the fact that you readily take that bouquet of flowers back to Toriel, indicating probably Kris really does want his/her parents to get back together. Normally, when a broken home situation is depicted in a game or movie or TV series, it is just flat out said as a fact or you are given one or two references to what this means to the character. In the case of Deltarune, it is never rubbed in your face and you actually have to explore around in order to find the lore about this, and it is given to you in subtle hints about how Kris' daily life looks and how Kris is emotionally affected by this. This causes the whole child of divorce and maternal neglect picture to make a far deeper emotional impact than it would otherwise. Really, the more you explore the town and talk to people and have the picture come together, the more miserable you feel as you sympathize with Kris. Despite the light all around, it just seems to look darker and darker and feel colder and the same music that seems happy like a somber end to the game when you leave the school building gradually starts to seem more and more sad as though it's a lament for the situation Kris faces in his/her daily life.
I've been reading comments, one said that Kris drinked the full potion of darkness, turning him evil at the end of deltarune, later it says that's when Chara manifests. Even that, i think that's not true, by reading this comment, i think Kris is going to get revenge on everyone, and kicking us out of their body, leaving us without a choice, as the game says it itself
I noticed the same thing at the end as well. The whole ending thing is really sad. You also have the graveyard and the bench. Then you have the pizza place that is closed and Burgerpants hates his coworkers and is kinda stuck in his crappy position. You have officer Undyne who is at a crossroads (Literally) cause she has nothing to police. Then that catlady and her neighbor in a fight, that girls dad is in the hospital and kind of dying. It's almost like when the sun goes down all the characters are "Off duty" so to speak and can stop their cheery act.
@@harg5544 The thing about that is, no matter which route you take through the dark world, once you consider Kris' back-story here it makes narrative sense either way. If you go the pacifist route, Kris is frustrated you were forcing him/her to act so nice in this world that has nothing but torment for him/her. If you go the, err... "beat everyone up" route, Kris discovers how good it feels to get his/her aggression out and wants to apply this to the sources of his/her torment.
Why is nobody talking about the Darkners? They're new separate entities that sort of function like monsters, and sort of don't. And what about them being sealed away? Why were they sealed away? What are Darkners exactly? Are they made of more physical matter than Monsters, or less? There's something really important about them, and no one cares! I NEED ANSWERS DAMMIT!!!
i agree. Toby fox introduces us to a whole new species and no one's asking questions? i personally think its just because its only been barely a week, not even since Deltarune was released. everyone is probably still trying to process this massive inflow of new information and material to work with as far as theories go that no one's gotten to that just yet. everyone is still on the "who is Kris/Chara" and Gaster theories cause those are some of the most shocking things about Deltarune. give it time im sure people will start making theories for that too. i don't even have any theories on the Darkners or the Lightners. im kinda confused O_O
@@imadms4615 there's one monster in Undertale who also has some multi colored talk sprites Lancer assumes that all three party members bleed, despite that most monsters we've seen in Undertale don't have blood and you never see Darkners die they just move offscreen and Darkners can make fast travel doors and one monster in Undertale can dodge attacks and Darkners can dodge attacks :^)
Edit: Oof, they edited the comment @Wastebin They probably run away before you can kill them because “your choices don’t matter” that’s the theme of the game. There is only meant to be one end so it ’s impossible to earn any EXP. And I meant fully colored... I don’t mean a blush. From the clothing to the body it is completely colored at all times. I know you didn’t say this, but it isn’t just a part of being in the dark world either. Susie is in black and white. (Not saying you didn’t know, but still saying that just Incase you didn’t) With the dodging, unless you warn them beforehand, they never dodge. You don’t have the opportunity in Undertale to warn anyone about any of your attacks. So if you were to warn them in Undertale they might dodge as well but there’s no saying because you never get the opportunity to do so. The fast travel door is exactly the same sprite as Sans’s bedroom door. His “shortcuts” probably have something to do with that. The bleeding one could be legitimate. Sorry if it sounds like I’m being harsh or anything, I’m just in the debating mood...
One more thing to add: When Ralsei goes down in a fight, he doesn't fall down, or start kneeling or something, he just straight up evaporates. And yet, he can still be brought back in the same methods as Susie or Kris can. Isn't that a little odd?
@SwankyBox, 0:43, Actually Toby is going through this right now. He says he NEEDS a team and that's the reason why he released this and that he CAN'T make deltarune UNLESS he gets help.
*For those of you who are unable or unwilling to stay up in the middle of the night, translating Wingdings* without a key or reason at all other then pure boredom, here's the translation for the Wingdings on 0:03 ... Trust me, reading that was much more then it was worth... I'm going to bed now, enjoy this piece of my wasted time, effort and life... Not that there's many better uses for it... "Attention all Undertale gamers, sans Undertale is in great danger and he needs your help to megalovania harder, but in order to do this, he needs a few bottles of ketchup and a ness mask, to help him, all he needs is your credit card number the three digits on the back, and the expiration month and year, but you gotta be quick so sans Undertale can trombone outta the"
I can confirm the first 18 words. You deserve my like. I got: ATTENTION ALL UNDERTALE GAMERS - SANS UNDERTALE IS IN GREAT DANGER AND HE NEEDS YOUR HELP TO MEGALOVANIA HARDER.
@@casual_ice_consumer4148 thanks, they're actually not capitalised though and I'm actually a little rusty since I haven't read or written much for a long time so I could have a few of the punctuation wrong but the words as a whole are probably all that really matter
Dammit, you beat me to the translation! It's not often that I get to criticize a UA-camr for an oddly crafted message. The message didn't make very much sense and it cut off at the end. I REALLY wanted to be the one to use my usually unused skill to translate Wingdings. *Muffled yelling*
Sounds very similar to my story! I think as of today it's been about 12 - 13 years since I last worked on it. I actually started it at the beginning of 2000 too. I've certainly thought about doing a playthrough on my second channel at least.
I'd been working on a game for like 4 years so a lot less time than y'all, but it was horrible when I lost the files for it(because I forgot to keep making backups like a noob, and I only had really early backups) because I was thinking "I'm finally going to actually make a game by myself!" and then the files had errors that I couldn't find...sucked I tried opening them up recently, but apparently the thing I used to program it with is not compatible with windows 10
@@SwankyBoxChara did not kill anyone they even say uou have a percerted mentality if you do gen()cide twice. They are innocent in gen()cide and Toby fox said deltarune is an alternative universe from undertale
I bet in the beginning of Chapter 2, We wander out in the town during the morning, and in doing so stumble upon and unsuspecting Gaster, who we have a strange compulsion to kill, however,before anything happens,he reveals the answer to the question that we never had; he tells us that he works as a Dentist and that we should mind our own business. And then we never see him for the rest of the game to Add to the Irony.
Kris seemed to have been planned to exist since the beginning. An unused sprite that looks shockingly similar to them exists in the files of the original Undertale.
If you put Gaster in as the creator's name, the game outright closes. Any other character's name and it just says something along the lines of "oh, what a coincidence"
*SPOILER WARNING* With the Gaster sounds on the phone and the southern door I feel like either his "spirit" or data is still out there, despite that this is a "new" world. And "Chara" in the ending seems to be influenced by a post-genocide timeline. Though we don't quite know if these are quite the same characters from the original Undertale world, or their new stories of how they came to be in this new one....
In a major contrast to Undertale, there seems to be a lot more Gaster influence in Delta Rune, except he's not mentioned by name like he was by his followers in Undertale. Something is telling me that Gaster is the main antagonist of Delta Rune, or at least one of the main antagonists.
as much of a fan of Gaster as i am i'd be so excited to see him as an antagonist. at least as long as he can turn good in the end, i dont wanna have to kill him! :( but maybe he is a misguided antagonist who thinks what he is doing is right and you can kinda understand why he does whatever he does but its still not good and he has to be stopped. all these theories are making me feel even more hyped. idk how my sanity is gonna survive until chapter 2!
Yeah thats my theory too! Also, I have a thought. If the dark between universes is the Void? And if yes, is there multiple Gasters from different au's or did they merge, or does he not play by the 'New AU' rule? I don't know.
In my opinion the Easiest answer to the ending of Delta Rune is at the end Kris lets his soul absorb the darkness from the fountain to save the (parallel underground, note that this is not a dream for them)The darkness swells up within them throughout the night in which finally it corrupts the vessel leaving the soul or kris/you to be left behind as the darkness takes on the form of Chara as when the dark fountain appeared is supposedly when Chara died. The fact that Kris showed up meant the doom for monsters above ground because when they leave, Chara leaves unleashing them upon the world above. Not to mention like in the legend where all three of them absorb a portion of the darkness Kris absorbs all of it making him pure evil ;w; The ritual required all three of them to absorb a portion of the darkness but apparently they forgot, so lets see what happens in chapter 2. >w>
Hey I was fighting Jevil yesterday and one of his attacks specifically the carousel one had one of the Amalgamate attacks on it specifically the one that has butterflies coming to it's head. The same attack is also in the alley Alphys lives in
Hey Swanky, this is an interesting theory. But I'd like to point out a fact that shows a gap in it. Chara doesn't want to hurt monsters, Chara actually hates humans. By that logic, he/she can't go against Gaster. If anything, Gaster and Chara would be working on these worlds together, and I think that Gaster's previous work was what made Chara into the inhuman, demonic entity he is. There are several ways to prove it as well, long rant with important details incoming: After beating the Jevil and speaking to the shopkeeper, you can tell that Gaster must've been the one who corrupted Jevil. Jevil's sprite is all grey, just like Gaster's followers. He says there are stronger and faster beings than him, obviously thinking of Gaster (or it could be Chara). But in the world of Undertale, Gaster and his followers are meant to be ghosts, while in this world of Deltarune, Jevil is very much alive and gives us a hell of a time. I'm almost positive that at one point, Gaster is going to be a hidden boss as well. Now, Chara doesnt actually kill monsters, Chara kills humans. That might be why there isn't a single other human in the town. So, in the part where the deer dad says that Kris had 'ketchup' that looked like blood on his hands to scare Noelle", Kris (presumably possessed by Chara) said that it's just ketchup. We know that in Undertale, Chara was a prankster, yes. But monsters don't have blood, humans do. It almost seems to me that Chara is protecting monsters by killing humans, but he needs a human "vessel" to act. That's probably why you can't leave the town as Kris, the yellow police tape is on the road that leads out of the town, if there are other towns nearby, Chara is most likely going there to do genocide on humans. Remember when he convinced Asriel to carry his body into the village? It wasn't because he wanted back home. Chara planned it, wanted Asriel to fight back against the people who attacked him first, wanted to destroy them all with the power that Asriel had, but he didn't expect that Asriel would actually be pacifistic even in the face of death. Ralsei talks about how the prophecy mentions that you have to prevent "The angel's heaven". At first it made no sense to me. In Undertale, the real boss of the world isn't Flowey, it's not Asgore and not even Sans. Chara is. If the player kills everyone, Chara is forced to show itself and punish the player for ruining that world. They're told to reset it, claiming "Since when are you in control?" if we refuse. But I believe that In Delta rune, the world is the creation of Chara. It is his "heaven". He only needs Kris as the vessel at night to do genocide on humans, but the question is, how did Chara become what he/she/it is? My best guess to that is Gaster. As the amazing scientist, he must have found a way to turn a human into their best weapon against other humans. Chara's hatred for humans and determination, combined with Gaster's experiments, has turned him into an actual 'god' of monsters. Although at one point, something went wrong and Gaster either "shattered across space and time", or didn't want to be found in the first place. We all know Gaster expects the player to be nosy, so he won't reveal until absolutely necessary. Regardless, it does not matter, because the monsters of the world have a "Save point". Chara. I wonder if the player will get the chance to stand up to either of them. Now, only three more questions remain, which will most likely be answered in the next chapter. Who is the Queen, who is the knight, and what can we find in the upper level of the Librarby that's so interesting to read? Have you noticed how the king's cape flew away after the king was brought to his knees? I have a feeling it wasn't just for effect.
well, the labrarby was the dark world, queen was the ruler of the dark world, not-goner-sock puppet is blocking the REALLY interesting books still, and the cape was just for aesthetic.
8:07 the pattern for the fountain you are required to destroy is the exact same pattern of the background during the opening sequence, just a little detail I noticed, does it mean anything? That’s for you to decide, or to not decide
"Deltarune's ending explained" Man. This is not Deltarune's ending. It's Deltarune's chapter 1 ending. Edit: Damn... so many likes. If I get 1000 I will write my theory about the ending. Edit2: Ok. Here's my theory. Kris absorbed the power from that fountain and now he has much darkness in his soul. He has the soul of determination same as Frisk and CHARA. At the beggining of the game someone is asking "Are we connected?". Darkness from that fountain woke up Chara and now she controls Kris' body, because they are connected. That's it. My english is not the best, because it's not my main language. Sorry about that.
After fighting Jevil and seeing what he said, this all makes a lot of sense. He remained in that jail cell because he said he was the one who was free where as everyone outside is not. He knew what would happen at the end of the chapter meaning that he was not part of this world. He is not following some ultimate plan made by a greater force. That is especially evident if you go and speak to Seam after completing the fight with Jevil. Now Kris is stuck in their jail/cage, but we are free because we have determination.
Something i found truly fascinating was that many adjectives are used to describe heroism (courage, strength, hope, etc.), but there is NO mention of determination despite being a main driving force in Undertale. Assuming that Gaster made this world, he may have made it without determination specifically so Chara couldn't cause damage to it. With Chara's introduction, perhaps we will find that the world finally will have "determination" introduced.
@@bradDark6941 hold on I just remembered some theory I watched a long time ago. Are you going by the theory that Chara is our urge to kill, and every act against it and every act of mercy is a blow to Chara? If so, then start using evidence, or at least don't use a theory with obvious evidence against it
Spoilers obviously but ... I think you may be missing the point. Whilst Gaster may be involved, atleast in the beginning where you're being transferred into Kris as a soul, but the ending shows that Kris already HAS a soul or atleast had been able to live without a typical soul. Kris is not Chara. Infact, we're semi stripping Kris of their will by controlling them. (since its apparent they can well, rip us out.) Honestly if there IS any direct conenction between Undertale and DeltaRune, the only connections I could draw between them are Sans still knowing more than he should, and us potentially being Frisk, in Kris' body, as aided by Gaster in the beginning. The reason I think we're still Frisk, is how our color pallete shifts from Chara, and also Kris' color pallete, to Frisk's whilst in the Darkner realm. Suzie's does not change, she simply gets spikier. Also Ralsei, being an anagram of Asriel, isnt a coincidence I feel. We know Asriel still exists in the overworld, so obviously Ralsei and Asriel are NOT one in the same, but they most likely are somehow related. Also that set of doors leading underground, I feel is just a way directly from the normal world, to the darkner world. Which has been sealed off, like how the monsters in Undertale were sealed away. Also, Chara isnt inherently evil. misguided, and hurt from their time being abused on the surface in Undertale, yes. But not evil. They ARE the Narrator in undertale. so a PACIFIST route, reveals and makes the good in them blossom. Whereas a GENOCIDE route, lets them feel as if the cruelty and violence in their heart is ok to put out there and corrupt and destroy to get what they want. Losing all their sense of morals. Because WE showed them that.
Not sure about the Chara part but I like the idea of Kris having the two souls (one being his one and one being the player) which basically means we are stealing his ability to choose and instead go the peaceful route. This would explain why he rips out a soul (the players) and then pulls out a knife as he prefers to kill everyone. Also it would explain why all the monsters think of him as the creepy kid.
@@jsoimn6812 Kids do things for attention. Again Chara may not have been inherently bad, just misguided. The fact that Asriel asked them to "Do the creepy face" meant their "brother" azzie liked it. so they did it. as for some of the other things, they obviously did not have a great life before falling down, and how they acted reflected that. A kid would NOT know how to act being metally scarred at such a young age. Even chara laughing when asgore had been given buttercups is ambiguous as they might not have known how to feel and just, laughed, trying to figure out what to feel or feeling guilty they forced themselves to laugh to hide their sadness/weakness. Part of their reason they ran away, and fell was probably due to being abused and showing weakness causing more abuse.
@@caro5281 Indeed, I didnt think much of it until the end when we get ripped out and its just, "o-oh... oh.. We're not them. We're PUPPETING them. D:" so in the long run it may be the better thing to do, atleast for the darkner world, but if so, I dont think Kris will ever forgive us.
@@Luigi4evernevermario well but then we didn't make him evil, he was evil already when we started the game and we just let him take control of our body by doing a genocide route
I think that Undertale was created after delta rune. hear me out please. the photo labeled don't forget has three smiling figures, my thought is those three figures are Kris Susy and Ralsei and the end credits make certain to establish the pictures meaning of don't forget. the only was for sans to have that image in Undertale is if he was in the timeline with Deltarune first, it would also explain him knowing the sun. I have a strong feeling we will also find a badge on the way in Deltarune that will explain why he has that. That is just a guess however. So just to make certain you know what I'm talking about because this is confusing, I think Gaster made Deltarune first it then got destroyed by Chara and then he made Undertale.
Summer Jennings Sounds like a good theory, but I don't think that it always has to do something with Gaster. Also, the end song is named ,,Don't forget" This seems very, very interesting.
I thought about that too. Sans also mentions that he gave up trying to go back a long time ago, and then he says that trying to get to the surface doesn't appeal anymore EITHER. Was he implying that the place he was trying to go back was not the surface, but a different place?
Soo you guys just gonna ignore the fact that delta rune is the royale family symbol ? Lol i just joking i know you guys does not ignore that but..... Deltarune is a savior or a god like being that supposed to be monster is savior i remember someone in undertale told me that
I actually don't think that Chara and Gaster are fighting against each other, but working togheter. I think Gaster can create diffrent Timelines out of the existing ones, but not really controll the people he created. One the other side there is Chara, some sort of bodyless, timeline consuming Demon, wich can take over other peoples bodies. Futher I think Gaster wants to return to the "normal" World or also only continue his research to the timelines, what means he needs someone to test everything and this someone is Chara. He gives Chara a body and new Timelines to destroy and Chara helps him by doing certain things he want to test. (Sorry for the bad english. I'm not really good in it.)
Considering how chara acts I kind of doubt they would willingly test things out. Now if Gaster tricks Chara into helping him that makes a lot more sense to me at the very least.
What if Chara is a timeline traveller and destroyer who wants to kill Gaster to stop the timeline creation? He may have found out in which timeline is Gaster hiding right now. The player is a test subject, so Gaster was about to give us a body, however, he then realized that Chara had entered his own timeline and had possessed Kris, so he wants us to control Kris and Chara so that he can gain some time to find the way to expell Chara from the timeline or the way to escape to another timeline himself. And he may also want to keep testing timelines, but he can't just send us to a timeline with Chara being also in Kris' body because it would be deadly if Chara took over it, so he sends Susie with us to limitate our decisions
I would like to add an expeculation, that maybe sans and papyrus, being associated with gaster in some ways. Are able to jump between realities, maybe even to gather data and track chara down for Gaster. Thats why sans doesn't seem to belong to the monsters world or to the surface, and they always suddenly move into location without people knowing where they came from. So maybe... just maybe... this sans is indeed the same sans from undertale
its good, indeed, but the characters and the plot seems bland compared to undertale. Dont get me wrong, its still a good game, but i was hoping something of UT levels of quality and got slighly dissapointed.
On the subject of Gerson, note that his Gravestone does have a hammer on it - like the hammer he supposedely fought with in the war. So, to me, that suggests that he was a warrior of some kind. Edit: Oh right, in the library it says that "Lord of the Hammer" is an award-winning fiction series of his. Must be one hell of a story to have that Hammer on his gravestone
Imagine gaster is just a normal scientist that got stuck in the dark world and tried to create a vessel to get out and honestly has no idea what is happening at all. And the eggs given to the vessel are supposed to be eaten as eggs for food.
My understanding of Gaster's case is much similar to something that happened in the anime "Madoka Magica" (which I'll try to spoil as little as possible, but spoilers still ahead, so be warned). So, basically, there's this one entity that, somehow, became scattered in all of time and space. In Madoka's case, the entity became a "concept", a law of the universe itself, the embodiment of an action which was "to destroy all Witches before they even came to life." It didn't matter which timeline it was, this entity just stopped existing altogether, the memories of it erased, the very "possibility of it existing" negated, since it was no more that entity, and now was something like a Divinity, which could not interact with the real world further beyond it's very concept. On the third movie of this franchise, we are also told that some of the people this entity "killed" before they could become a monster, became part of the Law itself too, something like "assistants", or "followers." I always thought Gaster was the same as this. His falling into his creation and becoming scattered in time and space not only affected "him", but also all of the possible versions of him, including past, future and alternate Gasters. He's basically this lone God exiled from reality, unable to interact with anything directly, with a few followers that are also kinda exiled from reality but not as hardly as himself. However, in Madoka Magica, other being also followed the path of the first entity, becoming a being as powerful as itself, becoming also a concept of the universe, that embodied "all that is evil", and called itself "that which is opposite of God, so it'd make sense to call me the Devil." This new entity "trapped" in some way the first entity back into the physical plane, just for the sake of undoing it's work and creating chaos, splitting the Law of Cycles into the power that destroys Witches, and the person that it was before becoming it. After coming to this realisation, I thought: what if Gaster is not opposed to Chara, but rather trying to utilize them? Maybe he realised that Chara could also somehow, with their power, reach the realm of impossibilities that Gaster inhabits. Perhaps in trying to destroy every single world and timeline, they'd eventually find their way there, in order to destroy it as well. And once a path to get in is created, the same path could be used to also get out, which is exactly what Gaster would want. To experiment with Chara (or rather, the players who embody the concept of Chara) and try to use them as a method to undo his accident and become "real" once more.
Also, now that I think about it, Undertale made it very clear that it got some of its inspiration from works of anime. It wouldn't be that crazy to think that Toby Fox himself is a fan, and that he had some inspiration from actual series like Madoka Magica, among others.
I watched this vid an hour ago than played the game and realized the store sans is in front of is grillby’s but the sign is scratched off and you can still se the “ ,s “ part and you can notice the “ans” part of sans is written with pen to look like it’s his store and you can still see some of the sign and it also looks exactly like it Example Grillby’s #######’sans Sorry if this is too long and for some grammar issues.
Deltarune/Undertales letters can also be re arranged to Altered un and un in French means one This probably is dumb but I think these might be altered universes of another universe we haven’t seen
Not dumb at all. We assume that this world in Chapter 1 is the Main Reality. But... that may not be true. It could be that this universe, and the Darkverse both, might be based on yet another universe which we might have to travel to. Most likely, the Light and Dark Worlds are what we'll be dealing with, but we shall find out all this together.
It feels like less of a war and more 'Gaster placed... Whoever they are... In a box to study them'. And I get the vibe the entity reallllly wants a piece of the Good Doctor.
I think the deltarune universe takes place before undertale. In undertale, we all know about san’s basement. But, if you talk to the clam girl, you find a picture of three smiling people with the words “don’t forget”. For starters, you only find this after talking to the clam girl, aka learning about Suzy’s existence. Secondly, the ending song in deltarune is called Don’t forget. And deltarune has a group of three people. I speculate that at the end of deltarune, this world is somehow destroyed and no one remembers it, besides sans and possibly gaster and chara. But a new world is created. The undertale world. Also, Chara in undertale is much weaker than in deltarune. You need to get a lot of exp for chara to gain some control in undertale, while in deltarune, they only need you to make a simple choice.
Think about the prince and the correlation people want to make with him and sans because of their similar traits and attitudes. This could be the prince trying to remember his friends, as he could be transferred through to the undertale reality, with the ending of deltarune speculating the destruction of that reality which supports him being possibly retrived by gaster with the machine, but it malfunctioning causing the prince to split into papyrus and sans. It's a lot of theoretical ideas but it's a stretch I want to take.
at 5:03 I just realized the Survey_Program is version 6.6.6. Interesting. I'm a new sub dude, this is the second video Ive seen from you- amazing editing and covering of info! Great content!
There's still something that's bothering me: So, when your character, Kris, falls into the dark world, one of the first things you are presented with is a strangely shaped figure that, when you pass by it, starts swaying back and forth. It's weird how closely it resembles a certain, unexplained thing in undertale. Remember when, entering the true lab, you come across a room where there is a shadow of an unknown object behind a shower curtain waving back and forth. As you get closer, it starts swaying faster and faster, until you finally pull back the curtain, revealing... a green key. Many fans, including myself, have thought of this to be an amalgamate, but what if it's just the strange object from deltarune, that had somehow gotten into a different world. What if Gaster has something to do with this? Maybe both games interlope with each other? Or is this a whole different matter altogether?
Something I noticed: on the Status screen, 1. Kris's class is LV1 Human, whereas Susie and Ralsei have more specific titles (Mean Girl, Fluffy Boy iirc) and 2. Kris's description states "body contains a SOUL", not something like "body powered by its human soul". This leads me to believe that in Chapter 2, you will play as Kris's soul, possibly taking on a new form or merging with someone else (betting on Susie or Sans, but who knows) and fighting your own body.
why does EVERYONE keep thinking Chara is a evil monster? they are NOT there is plenty of evidence in Undertale, wich shows that Chara is the narrator, a person who is behind Frisk, translating everything & punishing the PLAYER if a genocide route happens
nathan prins Because Chara helps you from the onset of the Genocide Route. They aren’t corrupted by LV, you can kill 49-50 Knight Knights in the CORE and not be forced onto a Genocide Route.
nathan prins while I agree Chara isn’t evil, the version I believe people are referring to is Post-Genocide Chara, who was corrupted by LV and witnessing Frisk slaughter everyone they knew and loved, know wants nothing more than to ruin any and all timelines they come across.
Just want to say that nobody is Analysing the entry number 17 again after delta Rune got out and one thing that I want to say that one of the two characters Gaster is talking to (atleast i think ) is jevil or what the secret boss Name is because the mage ( first shopkeeper) said that the jester (secret boss) met someone and changed got crazy and i think that the jester got some of Gasters powers and May be a New recruit (or old ) for gaster
@@kilderok just look up the secert boss in delta Rune or the Video from merg he showed how to get to the secret boss and what i meant entry number 17 "dark darker yet darker . Darkness keeps on growing . Shadows cutting deeper. The next Experiment seem very interesting what do you two think? "
Something interesting is the fact that Ralsei's true face is just asriel's face but with pink horns... the same pink horns kris got from Toriel when he asked her when his horns where going to grow out. I think Ralsei is just Kris way of imagining a perfect borther, and not the brother he got that is so perfect and likable that nobody in town that talks to Kris actually pays attention to him, they all just want to talk about his brother. I love these kind of little details that play to a bigger picture in the story.
my personal head canon is the "go back home" he was referring to in his genocide fight, was delta rune. in the delta rune world, my head canon is that the previous owner of the shop Grilby's, retired, and Sans took over, too lazy to replace the sign, so he scribbled over it and wrote his name. Edit: I like this. I think he was saying how in chapter 1, not many choices mattered, but in chapter 2 they will start to matter. what I DON'T like, is him pinning evil stuff on Chara. I mean, WE are the influence. It is US who seeks to toy with these worlds, Chara was just forced onto the ride.
I personally believe that this isn't in a parallel world at all. Toby saying that this isn't in the world of Undertale makes sense though, because it's not. Clearly, someone did something to mess with the timeline of everything. What Toby is trying to establish is that something is wrong in this world. It is the world of Undertale, but messed up so much that it it isn't recognizable anymore, and that's what he means. Chara, however, still knows everything. After being corrupted by the genocide run over, and over, and over again, they are angry with the current world. Frisk did everything they could to make things straight, but it wasn't enough. Chara corrupted the timeline, and is now out to do whatever evil thing they had planned.
transtaions of the begining text ''attentionall undertalegamers.sansundertaleisingreatdangerandheneedsyourhelptomegalovaniaharder.butinordertodothis,heneedsafewbottlesofketchupandanessmask.tohelphim,allhe needsis yourcreditcard number,thethreedigitsontheback,and theexpirationmonthandyear. butgottabequicksosansundertale can trombone outta the''
I also found two interesting facts that hint at some very interesting implications. 1. Gaster is a fake persona used by Toby? In the credits of Earthbound, the person who is credited to the "Opening Rock Music" is named "M.D. Seeger. There were rumours however that this "M.D. Seeger" was in fact a fake alias used by renowned game creator Shigeru Miyamato. Even after all these years it was never proven and still remains a rumour. Rumour or not, the name"M.D. Seeger" is spelled extremely similarly to W.D. Gaster. Heck, to turn "M.D. Seeger" into W.D. Gaster, you only need to turn the M initial upside down into a W and replace the first four letters of "Seeger" with "Gast". Knowing Toby was a huge Eartnound fan, there is a possibility that he based Gaster's name on this name. A name that was rumoured to be a fake alias used by a very real game creator. Did Toby base Gaster's name on this rumour? Does this hint that Gaster may be some kind of mysterious, spooky persona he is using, like the Annoying Dog, only more serious and DARKer. If this is true, then the backstory of Gaster may be more metaphor than fact. A brilliant scientist (Game developer) fell (got lost into) into his creation (Undertale). And now he has begun work on his next experiment (Deltarune). 2. Gaster is the master of Chara and is the Devil? In undertales files, there is a bunch of text written by a entity labelled as "Demon". It goes like this. "Greetings" "You have made yourself perfectly clear" "Understood" "I, as your humble servant, will serve you to the utmost" Who else in Undertale calls themselves a Demon and likes to introduce themselves using the word "Greetings" Chara. But, the person that Chara is talking to cannot be the player. Why? Chara always referred to you as their "Partner", also meaning that Chara viewed themselves as your "Partner". Partner - Partner = Equals You and Chara were both equals. But Chara labels themselves as a "Servant" to this person they are talking to, also meaning that this somebody must be Chara's "Master" Servant - Master = Not Equals So if they aren't talking to the Player, who are they talking to? Well, I think I know who it is. 1. Chara is a Demon 2. They serve a Master 3. The master of Demons is the Devil 4. The number of the Devil is 666 5. The number 666 and Gaster are heavily tied to eachother. Conclusion: Gaster is the Master, and he is Undertale/Deltarunes analogue of Lucifer, the Fallen Angel.
I have something minor I noticed that may link the two games, spoilers below. In Undertale Switch edition the npc known as Clamgirl, who randomly spawns in waterfall has a special line of dialogue that goes something like this “So you never met my neighbor’s daughter, that’s fine, because the time you will meet them.... is fast approaching...” after they state this, they become grey like a Gaster follower and vanish with the accompanying sound effect, now here’s the important part, while the player is progressing, not done with the game, Clamgirl says that her neighbor’s daughter was named Susie, like the character in Deltarune. I will leave you all to ponder the significance of this.
i thought this was obvious? actually how obvious it is makes me slightly skeptical. why is the character Clamgirl mentioned named "Suzy" while the character in Deltarune is named "Susie"? i wonder if the difference in spelling is significant or not.
AND "Ralsei' Is the name that is 'ASRIEL' If you get A then S then R then I then E and E From the name 'RALSEi' U get asriel.... and after you beat the game you'll se that she is like asriel that makes sense no?
This was a great analysis as always! I had a thought at around eight minutes in - you mention how Gaster knows that one can't really reach the end or beginning of a timeline, so he chooses go deeper. It just made me think of the concept in math of there being literal infinite decimals between whole numbers such as 1 and 2 (and so on). That between those two small numbers are infinite, endless numbers. And I find it fascinating that it's applicable to Frisk and Chara. If Gaster and Chara are like yin and yang, I would say that Frisk and Chara are similarly intertwined. The two characters are opposite faces of the same coin, and between them there are infinite timelines, some with Chara dominating (Genocide runs), some with Frisk dominating (Pacifist runs), and then I wonder if Kris is an instance of it not being predetermined, if that exists in the Undertale/Deltarune universe, an instance of Frisk and Chara being weighted against one another without one being more prevalent than the other. As most people know, Toby Fox did a lot of the music for the webcomic of Homestuck, and the Frisk/Chara dynamic reminds me a bit of the cherubs. Whichever personality is stronger in will (or Determination, rather) will predominate.
I absolutely love your theories around differing timelines being created by Gaster while also trying to be altered by Chara. So much potential from just one chapter out of a full game yet to be released. But, I do have some wonders for what there is to come from Chara, and especially what else needs to be done in the Dark. We still have yet to touch on the Knight of the Dark, who influenced the King into imbalance, creating the other dark fountain... There's also the even more vague mention of a Queen by Jevil after defeating him... and something a bit controversial, if not just barely touched on how the Legend Ralsei told Kris and Susie may not have been fulfilled properly, and that Ralsei may not be exactly who we believe they say they are. My theory is, based around Chara, isn't that she found a way into Deltarune due to the first appearance of choice in the game, breaking the bounds Gaster set up to be a perfect world to exist and cause chaos, but instead was created the moment Kris used their soul to banish the fountain and returned home with Susie. But in reality, we knew by the Legend that the three champions would dispell the fountain together to return balance between the Dark and Light. Yet, Ralsei wasn't present when they stood before the Fountain... the Legend wasn't properly fulfilled, and instead of the three champions banishing the Dark Fountain... Kris merely absorbs the Dark into their soul, imbalancing themself, creating the Chara of Deltarune because of it... Not only that, but when Ralsei removed his hat, he was revealed to 'maybe' actually being a Boss Monster Lightener, than the Prince of the Dark... though we don't really know much about Darkerners in the first place, it's a possibility that makes sense for the context. It could be heavily implied that he's actually a she, but lied to protect her identity from something worse, to protect her friends... perhaps this Knight we have yet to know is also very dangerous... and I mean as dangerous as Gaster or Chara is, in their own way, making Ralsei try to get Kris to fulfill the Legend as swiftly as possible, only to accidentally make her absorb the Dark instead of dispelling it... We can't be too certain however, without the rest of the game to outright tell us.
Except for one thing... Chara isn't evil, nor dangerous They never were evil(except after genocide UT ending where they became a megalomaniac) and Chara doesn't exist in deltarune I do think Ralsei is a boy, but it does make sense if he is a lightner(IDK how to pronounce) since he isn't connected to toys, but is to goats, the same way as goat family without humans
The voice that discards your vessel actually has a similar speech pattern to Chara, which is more noticeable in the Japanese translation, so I honestly doubt the idea of Chara not existing in Deltarune.
Eren Jäger maybe its been happening at night but with his most recent encounter underground with darkness and basically showing new found signs of determination by respawning and doing the parallel of breaking the barrier, chara take full control now Thing is asriel’s shirt has a hole in it You think maybe he killed his brother in his sleep and never knew it? His mom decided not to blame him and name the tragedy college to cover it up? Just joking but its never far from possibility Actually fits with what small information we have
What he thought Chapter 2 was: same town. With Gaster appearance What we thought (or people who waited for Deltarune chapter 2 or had to wait): KRIS IS THE BAD GUY What we got: Potassium. BIG SHOT!!!
ı think monsters and humans lives in peace in this alternative universe. they lived in peace they are living at peace and they will live at peace (sorry for the grammar, bad english)
Undertale and Deltarune are different! Just look at these dialogues: Sans in Undertale: DO YOU WANNA HAVE A BAD TIME? Sans in Deltarune: I just befriended your mom. T_T
In deltarune when you look at the cage it's says it's seen a few crashes so maybe chara comes out every night to do some weird thing's and take control of Kris every night
I Like To Think it like this: *TobyFox*: "Man, this game is so complicated to make(He Said so)! I think i'll just make one ending to this game.." *[after he finished making the beta]* *TobyFox*:"There! I'll just programmed gaster in this game so he could protect the soul so there will be no other endings. Now, I'll just inform everybody in Twitter that this game only has 1 ending.. (again, he said this too (maybe))" *[Later aat the ending of deltarune chapter 1]* *Chara*: MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!! NOW TOBY FOX WILL BE FORCED TO MAKE MORE ENDINGS!!!!
@@bradDark6941 This is absolutely wrong I would somewhat accept that if you gave me proof that Chara is evil, but not just you didn't, you used a completely based theory that makes no sense AKA "Frisk isn't evil", unless I misinterpreted that to "Frisk is a pacifist child that won't hurt a fly"
I'd like to point out that the portal's texture at 8:08 is identical to a few other mystery areas in the game. For example, the character creation screen.
Would be funny if we find Gaster in Chapter 2 but he's nothing but a dentist, or something mundane like that.
@xXxMartin96xXx maybe there will be additional chapter related to opening the bunker, then dealing with gaster.
*You tell Gaster he was a royal scientist.
Gaster being a dentist is far more horrifying to me than him being the Royal Scientist. XD
That would be great lol
Gaster is the Knight
I think this theory helps explain Jevil. The shopkeeper mentions how he met a “strange fellow” and begin to think of the world as a game. This fellow was likely gaster, and Jevil thought the world as a game because that’s what it is; a game that gaster created. This is also why Jevil thinks of himself as free while everyone else is not. Everything in this world is decided by gaster. In his prison, Jevil can do whatever he pleases; and cause as much chaos as he wants. Jevil also gives you a different item depending on whether you try to kill him or not. In his world, choices do matter, if only a little. The shopkeeper also mentions how Jevil made his view of the world darker, yet darker.
Waluigi Is the best a thing in jevil fight during the horse and duck carousel phase you can see a duck with a almagamate face i saw that in a video doing the fight without getting hit
What are the items?
@Nicoxer for fighting Jevil, you can get a weapon for Susie that lowers the cost of her special attack by 10 tp, and for sparing Jevil you can get an armor that makes Ralsei's heals ridiculously op
Also he references the knight, take the knights face and flip it upside down it’s gasters face.
@teddel nanu what knight?
5:00 Uhm... is nobody gonna talk about that the game is on version 6.6.6...?
Version 6.6
And 6 is Gaster's number.
This timeline was created by gaster and he appears on FUN value of 66 that's probably why .
@@ralphthefrog3086 Well, we don't KNOW if he created it. This theory is going on little evidence, it's more like speculation. But we do know he made us join it.
I noticed that
I would like to very much disagree that this is some kind of "perfect timeline." In fact, it is quite sad if you go around talking to everyone at the end. There are a number of points to consider. Any one of them individually seems like just some flavor text, but once you put them all together it paints a pretty dark picture.
1. Consider Kris and Azriel's room. Kris' side of the room is completely bare except for the cage in the wagon. (a cage on wheels. Choice doesn't matter reference?) Meanwhile, Azriel's side of the room is filled with all kinds of trophies, decorations, and under the bed is game systems and CDs. Azriel is given everything and Kris is given nothing.
2. When you explore the house, you discover a trashcan with a "floral scent." This doesn't mean much at the time, but it winds up meaning a lot later.
3. You have the opportunity to find a collection of "childhood treasures" which is called "ball of junk" in your inventory. It is a collection of things that are of sentimental value to your connection between Kris and Azriel.
4. If you try to throw away the ball of junk, Kris gets very emotionally torn up about it.
5. While you are driving to school, Toriel says something about Azriel coming to visit next week.
6. With some more talking around, you discover that Azriel is away at college.
This is all you can discover before the adventure in the dark world, and this is not anywhere close to enough to start putting the picture together. However, AFTER you get out of the dark world you get to explore the town and you start to discover a lot more things that make it all start to come together, and hints about it are littered throughout the entire town.
7. When you talk to Toriel on the phone, it is subtly implied that most of your life up until now has consisted of her taking you to school and then her taking you straight home. It is implied that you actually don't get out much, and she is really surprised when you say that you were with a friend (Suzi.) Finding out you were with a friend, she lets you, presumably for the first time in a long time, wander about on your own.
8. Talk to the priest, you hear about how you and your entire family used to come to church every Sunday, but one day that just stopped.
9. You talk to the lady at the diner, you find out that every Sunday your whole family used to come to the diner. When that stopped, she describes that just you and Azriel would still continue coming with just the two of you and you would sit in the booth and draw shapes on the window in the fog of your breath and generally just hang around.
10. After the lady at the diner describes the stuff in #9, she gives you a free hot chocolate. If you drink the chocolate milk, the text says that "your throat tightens." In other words, difficult emotions being brought up for you by the act of drinking the chocolate milk.
EDIT: New additional info for #10 due to second play-through. If you choose to drop the hot chocolate, you get a message "you throw the hot chocolate on the floor like the trash that it is." Recall that this is an item that is supposed to remind Kris of Asriel. This difference in whether you drink it or drop it likely represents that Asriel is always good to Kris, so Kris has good memories with Asriel, but at the same time due to Asriel being given everything by Toriel while he/she is neglected, this also causes Kris to feel very bitter toward Asriel at the same time. Very conflicting emotions. Also, if you choose to drop the hot chocolate and still have the ball of junk in your inventory, the description of the ball of junk changes to be a lot more cold and negative about it. In other words, dropping the hot chocolate causes Kris to favor his/her negative emotions about Asriel.
Ok, so stuff is starting to come together now, but this next set of things really take it up a notch.
11. You go to the flower shop which is owned by Asgor, your dad. He becomes very happy and enthusiastically hugs you. He then backs off and is scared about whether or not you liked being hugged like that. In fact, he starts completely bending over backward to try to make you happy. (Very typical behavior of the non-custodial parent in a divorce situation.)
12. You examine the air mattress, Asgor's bed. He offers that if you want to spend the night with him he will let you use the bed and he will sleep on some of the bags of soil downstairs.
13. You examine the fridge, you discover the only thing in there is a single pickle. You leave it. This doesn't seem too significant in and of itself, except maybe to show that Asgor is really poor, but then you consider that you have had items like that dangled in front of you before, but every time in the past you have had an item like that you had a choice whether to take it or not. In this case, you were denied that choice. Kris absolutely would not take Asgore's last pickle.
14. You go other places in the town, you find out that, in fact, Toriel talks about how Kris is typically an absolute pig that eats all her sweets and snacks before she can even get any at all. This depicts a huge difference in how Kris treats Asgor and how Kris treats Toriel.
15. When you leave, Asgor gives you a bouquet of flowers to give to Toriel. (recall the floral scent from the trashcan.)
16. You find Alphes in the alley way. Turns out, this is her home, she is homeless. However, there are several thrashcans she is using as planters, and they are filled with flowers. Turns out, they are all from Asgor, and whenever he brings Alphes flowers he is also asking about how you are doing in school. Every single time he talks to her the first question on his mind is how you are doing in school.
17. You get home with Toriel and give her the flowers. Her reaction is mostly putting on a happy face, but it is rather clear she is not pleased.
18. I could have said this earlier, but as you go around town, there were also a lot of people describing these cruel pranks you always tent to pull on other kids your age in order to scare them.
19. As you interact with your home environment, you are treated to a number of comments from Toriel that reinforce the selfish and low-level destructive nature of Kris' typical behavior. Basically, behaviors that do nothing to cause serious permanent damage, but all of them creating little inconveniences, and the large bulk of such behaviors are directed straight at Toriel.
When you put all the pieces together, it paints a story of a child with a broken household. Toriel has custody of the children, as is the typical case in a divorce. Asgor is dirt poor, probably from Alimony and Child support payments. Toriel greatly favors Azriel over Kris, as shown by how completely bare Kris' side of the room is compared to Azriel's. Kris begins acting out in ways both at home and in town that are highly typical of a child who is being neglected and abused. The one and only person in town that Kris is more kind in his/her interactions with is Asgor, shown by you never even getting a choice to take that last pickle. There is also the fact that you readily take that bouquet of flowers back to Toriel, indicating probably Kris really does want his/her parents to get back together.
Normally, when a broken home situation is depicted in a game or movie or TV series, it is just flat out said as a fact or you are given one or two references to what this means to the character. In the case of Deltarune, it is never rubbed in your face and you actually have to explore around in order to find the lore about this, and it is given to you in subtle hints about how Kris' daily life looks and how Kris is emotionally affected by this. This causes the whole child of divorce and maternal neglect picture to make a far deeper emotional impact than it would otherwise.
Really, the more you explore the town and talk to people and have the picture come together, the more miserable you feel as you sympathize with Kris. Despite the light all around, it just seems to look darker and darker and feel colder and the same music that seems happy like a somber end to the game when you leave the school building gradually starts to seem more and more sad as though it's a lament for the situation Kris faces in his/her daily life.
Reading this made me extremely depressed.
I've been reading comments, one said that Kris drinked the full potion of darkness, turning him evil at the end of deltarune, later it says that's when Chara manifests.
Even that, i think that's not true, by reading this comment, i think Kris is going to get revenge on everyone, and kicking us out of their body, leaving us without a choice, as the game says it itself
I noticed the same thing at the end as well. The whole ending thing is really sad. You also have the graveyard and the bench. Then you have the pizza place that is closed and Burgerpants hates his coworkers and is kinda stuck in his crappy position. You have officer Undyne who is at a crossroads (Literally) cause she has nothing to police. Then that catlady and her neighbor in a fight, that girls dad is in the hospital and kind of dying. It's almost like when the sun goes down all the characters are "Off duty" so to speak and can stop their cheery act.
@@harg5544 The thing about that is, no matter which route you take through the dark world, once you consider Kris' back-story here it makes narrative sense either way. If you go the pacifist route, Kris is frustrated you were forcing him/her to act so nice in this world that has nothing but torment for him/her. If you go the, err... "beat everyone up" route, Kris discovers how good it feels to get his/her aggression out and wants to apply this to the sources of his/her torment.
Conan Edogawa wow ok
Why is nobody talking about the Darkners? They're new separate entities that sort of function like monsters, and sort of don't. And what about them being sealed away? Why were they sealed away? What are Darkners exactly? Are they made of more physical matter than Monsters, or less? There's something really important about them, and no one cares! I NEED ANSWERS DAMMIT!!!
i agree. Toby fox introduces us to a whole new species and no one's asking questions? i personally think its just because its only been barely a week, not even since Deltarune was released. everyone is probably still trying to process this massive inflow of new information and material to work with as far as theories go that no one's gotten to that just yet. everyone is still on the "who is Kris/Chara" and Gaster theories cause those are some of the most shocking things about Deltarune. give it time im sure people will start making theories for that too.
i don't even have any theories on the Darkners or the Lightners. im kinda confused O_O
The only difference I can tell is that darkeners have color on their faces in the text box...
@@imadms4615 there's one monster in Undertale who also has some multi colored talk sprites
Lancer assumes that all three party members bleed, despite that most monsters we've seen in Undertale don't have blood
and you never see Darkners die
they just move offscreen
and Darkners can make fast travel doors
and one monster in Undertale can dodge attacks
and Darkners can dodge attacks
:^)
Edit: Oof, they edited the comment
@Wastebin They probably run away before you can kill them because “your choices don’t matter” that’s the theme of the game. There is only meant to be one end so it ’s impossible to earn any EXP.
And I meant fully colored... I don’t mean a blush. From the clothing to the body it is completely colored at all times. I know you didn’t say this, but it isn’t just a part of being in the dark world either. Susie is in black and white. (Not saying you didn’t know, but still saying that just Incase
you didn’t)
With the dodging, unless you warn them beforehand, they never dodge. You don’t have the opportunity in Undertale to warn anyone about any of your attacks. So if you were to warn them in Undertale they might dodge as well but there’s no saying because you never get the opportunity to do so.
The fast travel door is exactly the same sprite as Sans’s bedroom door. His “shortcuts” probably have something to do with that.
The bleeding one could be legitimate.
Sorry if it sounds like I’m being harsh or anything, I’m just in the debating mood...
One more thing to add: When Ralsei goes down in a fight, he doesn't fall down, or start kneeling or something, he just straight up evaporates. And yet, he can still be brought back in the same methods as Susie or Kris can. Isn't that a little odd?
“Trouble is brewing” - UA-cam cuts to a Grinch ad
Chara is Grinch confirmed!
So tru doh.
Lmao
"How the Chara stole your soul."
also "ying and yang of this world" nah is ink and error!
@SwankyBox, 0:43, Actually Toby is going through this right now. He says he NEEDS a team and that's the reason why he released this and that he CAN'T make deltarune UNLESS he gets help.
Fandom guy ye according to his Twitter
Let's do "Get Help"
@@betin731 PLEASE, OUR DEVELOPER IS DYING, HELP HIM! *Throws a fluffy white dog into the void*
He most likely made a lot of money with undertale.shouldnt he be able to pay some people to help him
@@herrzeiens3503 Yea he has the money, its looking for the right people to hire for helping develop that was bothering him
*For those of you who are unable or unwilling to stay up in the middle of the night, translating Wingdings* without a key or reason at all other then pure boredom, here's the translation for the Wingdings on 0:03 ... Trust me, reading that was much more then it was worth... I'm going to bed now, enjoy this piece of my wasted time, effort and life... Not that there's many better uses for it...
"Attention all Undertale gamers, sans Undertale is in great danger and he needs your help to megalovania harder, but in order to do this, he needs a few bottles of ketchup and a ness mask, to help him, all he needs is your credit card number the three digits on the back, and the expiration month and year, but you gotta be quick so sans Undertale can trombone outta the"
I can confirm the first 18 words. You deserve my like.
I got:
ATTENTION ALL UNDERTALE GAMERS - SANS UNDERTALE IS IN GREAT DANGER AND HE NEEDS YOUR HELP TO MEGALOVANIA HARDER.
@@casual_ice_consumer4148 thanks, they're actually not capitalised though and I'm actually a little rusty since I haven't read or written much for a long time so I could have a few of the punctuation wrong but the words as a whole are probably all that really matter
This is golden
you soldier!
Dammit, you beat me to the translation! It's not often that I get to criticize a UA-camr for an oddly crafted message. The message didn't make very much sense and it cut off at the end. I REALLY wanted to be the one to use my usually unused skill to translate Wingdings.
*Muffled yelling*
I spent a decade-ish making an RTS. Been on hold for 8 years (in which time I made a lot of smaller projects).
You should release a build of the RPG.
Sounds very similar to my story! I think as of today it's been about 12 - 13 years since I last worked on it. I actually started it at the beginning of 2000 too.
I've certainly thought about doing a playthrough on my second channel at least.
I'd been working on a game for like 4 years so a lot less time than y'all, but it was horrible when I lost the files for it(because I forgot to keep making backups like a noob, and I only had really early backups) because I was thinking "I'm finally going to actually make a game by myself!" and then the files had errors that I couldn't find...sucked
I tried opening them up recently, but apparently the thing I used to program it with is not compatible with windows 10
@@SwankyBox I would like to test the game out.
DO IT@@SwankyBox
@@SwankyBoxChara did not kill anyone they even say uou have a percerted mentality if you do gen()cide twice. They are innocent in gen()cide and Toby fox said deltarune is an alternative universe from undertale
I bet in the beginning of Chapter 2, We wander out in the town during the morning, and in doing so stumble upon and unsuspecting Gaster, who we have a strange compulsion to kill, however,before anything happens,he reveals the answer to the question that we never had; he tells us that he works as a Dentist and that we should mind our own business. And then we never see him for the rest of the game to Add to the Irony.
RKayy Watch Toby actually do this
I need Toby to do this
Ha if only
I mean, he does wave at us through his car if we grab the egg. perhaps the more eggs we grab, the more we will see of him in this world?
Kris seemed to have been planned to exist since the beginning. An unused sprite that looks shockingly similar to them exists in the files of the original Undertale.
Currently I am trying a true pacifist with the name Kris on undertake and nothing different has happened yet
@@TheRealAnnoyingCat Which version are you trying this on?
@@ivythay4259 the most recent
@@TheRealAnnoyingCat ...So Switch?
@@ivythay4259 steam on windows
You should try releasing your game as like a beta thing!
ShackledSkull yeah
Yeees
(Says in a Bison voice) Yes
Yes
YES
also dude, if u write gaster as character name at the beginning your game will restart, as in undertale .-.
Thats one choice you can make, apparently
If you put Gaster in as the creator's name, the game outright closes. Any other character's name and it just says something along the lines of "oh, what a coincidence"
@@Frank_Erz I put in Sans, and it said that
Furthermore if you name the creator Gaster the game crashes entirely
@@BlaizeDew that's literally what everyone else said
*SPOILER WARNING*
With the Gaster sounds on the phone and the southern door I feel like either his "spirit" or data is still out there, despite that this is a "new" world. And "Chara" in the ending seems to be influenced by a post-genocide timeline. Though we don't quite know if these are quite the same characters from the original Undertale world, or their new stories of how they came to be in this new one....
In a major contrast to Undertale, there seems to be a lot more Gaster influence in Delta Rune, except he's not mentioned by name like he was by his followers in Undertale. Something is telling me that Gaster is the main antagonist of Delta Rune, or at least one of the main antagonists.
as much of a fan of Gaster as i am i'd be so excited to see him as an antagonist. at least as long as he can turn good in the end, i dont wanna have to kill him! :( but maybe he is a misguided antagonist who thinks what he is doing is right and you can kinda understand why he does whatever he does but its still not good and he has to be stopped.
all these theories are making me feel even more hyped. idk how my sanity is gonna survive until chapter 2!
@Kryssie Mango I think that Gaster's fight will be an absolute mindfuck.
@@wilburdemitel8468 i really hope it is! Im sure Toby has something epic planned.
@@cerulean22b69 SAME!
@@cerulean22b69 I think more than an explicit antagonist, it's more like, he's just trying to get back to his home.
I think deltarune and undertale are 2 seprate universes, while the darkworld is some kind of link between the two worlds.
Thats really good....wow
Yes I'm going to make a video about the entire storyline soon but first I need to wdit the video
Yeah thats my theory too! Also, I have a thought. If the dark between universes is the Void? And if yes, is there multiple Gasters from different au's or did they merge, or does he not play by the 'New AU' rule? I don't know.
That’s pretty much as what Toby confirmed, except for the Dark World bit.
Well i believe the dark world is the underground and that was left since human and monster reunited again
In my opinion the Easiest answer to the ending of Delta Rune is at the end Kris lets his soul absorb the darkness from the fountain to save the (parallel underground, note that this is not a dream for them)The darkness swells up within them throughout the night in which finally it corrupts the vessel leaving the soul or kris/you to be left behind as the darkness takes on the form of Chara as when the dark fountain appeared is supposedly when Chara died. The fact that Kris showed up meant the doom for monsters above ground because when they leave, Chara leaves unleashing them upon the world above. Not to mention like in the legend where all three of them absorb a portion of the darkness Kris absorbs all of it making him pure evil ;w; The ritual required all three of them to absorb a portion of the darkness but apparently they forgot, so lets see what happens in chapter 2. >w>
ChronoHelper ._.
@@raulavram366What? .w.
ChronoHelper N-nothing! ._.
@@raulavram366 Whatever you say, try to get people on this theory I'm out for now >W>
ChronoHelper this theory is actually gud :3
Hey I was fighting Jevil yesterday and one of his attacks specifically the carousel one had one of the Amalgamate attacks on it specifically the one that has butterflies coming to it's head. The same attack is also in the alley Alphys lives in
I also noticed that, one of the ducks has an Everyman head
Hey Swanky, this is an interesting theory. But I'd like to point out a fact that shows a gap in it. Chara doesn't want to hurt monsters, Chara actually hates humans. By that logic, he/she can't go against Gaster. If anything, Gaster and Chara would be working on these worlds together, and I think that Gaster's previous work was what made Chara into the inhuman, demonic entity he is. There are several ways to prove it as well, long rant with important details incoming:
After beating the Jevil and speaking to the shopkeeper, you can tell that Gaster must've been the one who corrupted Jevil. Jevil's sprite is all grey, just like Gaster's followers. He says there are stronger and faster beings than him, obviously thinking of Gaster (or it could be Chara). But in the world of Undertale, Gaster and his followers are meant to be ghosts, while in this world of Deltarune, Jevil is very much alive and gives us a hell of a time. I'm almost positive that at one point, Gaster is going to be a hidden boss as well.
Now, Chara doesnt actually kill monsters, Chara kills humans. That might be why there isn't a single other human in the town. So, in the part where the deer dad says that Kris had 'ketchup' that looked like blood on his hands to scare Noelle", Kris (presumably possessed by Chara) said that it's just ketchup. We know that in Undertale, Chara was a prankster, yes. But monsters don't have blood, humans do. It almost seems to me that Chara is protecting monsters by killing humans, but he needs a human "vessel" to act. That's probably why you can't leave the town as Kris, the yellow police tape is on the road that leads out of the town, if there are other towns nearby, Chara is most likely going there to do genocide on humans. Remember when he convinced Asriel to carry his body into the village? It wasn't because he wanted back home. Chara planned it, wanted Asriel to fight back against the people who attacked him first, wanted to destroy them all with the power that Asriel had, but he didn't expect that Asriel would actually be pacifistic even in the face of death.
Ralsei talks about how the prophecy mentions that you have to prevent "The angel's heaven". At first it made no sense to me. In Undertale, the real boss of the world isn't Flowey, it's not Asgore and not even Sans. Chara is. If the player kills everyone, Chara is forced to show itself and punish the player for ruining that world. They're told to reset it, claiming "Since when are you in control?" if we refuse. But I believe that In Delta rune, the world is the creation of Chara. It is his "heaven". He only needs Kris as the vessel at night to do genocide on humans, but the question is, how did Chara become what he/she/it is?
My best guess to that is Gaster. As the amazing scientist, he must have found a way to turn a human into their best weapon against other humans. Chara's hatred for humans and determination, combined with Gaster's experiments, has turned him into an actual 'god' of monsters. Although at one point, something went wrong and Gaster either "shattered across space and time", or didn't want to be found in the first place. We all know Gaster expects the player to be nosy, so he won't reveal until absolutely necessary. Regardless, it does not matter, because the monsters of the world have a "Save point". Chara. I wonder if the player will get the chance to stand up to either of them.
Now, only three more questions remain, which will most likely be answered in the next chapter. Who is the Queen, who is the knight, and what can we find in the upper level of the Librarby that's so interesting to read? Have you noticed how the king's cape flew away after the king was brought to his knees? I have a feeling it wasn't just for effect.
Gaster fell into the determination extractor and dats how he was made a god
This does have a few problems I think, but still, nice theory
well, the labrarby was the dark world, queen was the ruler of the dark world, not-goner-sock puppet is blocking the REALLY interesting books still, and the cape was just for aesthetic.
bruh finally someone who gets thst chara isnt a murderer to the underground
8:07 the pattern for the fountain you are required to destroy is the exact same pattern of the background during the opening sequence, just a little detail I noticed, does it mean anything? That’s for you to decide, or to not decide
So basically... Deltarune is like one of those Undertale AUs on tumblr, except is official, and confusing?
Basically
Yes
If you can't beat them, join them!
Can't really say no.
*well shit*
Have you guys noticed that the door you use in this game to fast travel looks like sans' door in his house in Undertale? Coincidence? HECK NO
Maybe that's how he teleports?
@@kauekairony990 That's what I was thinking too
@@kauekairony990 also he is able to dodge as darkners do
@@tawoorie
And he gets tired
I thought that the second I saw those doors in the Dark World. lol
"Deltarune's ending explained"
Man. This is not Deltarune's ending. It's Deltarune's chapter 1 ending.
Edit: Damn... so many likes. If I get 1000 I will write my theory about the ending.
Edit2: Ok. Here's my theory.
Kris absorbed the power from that fountain and now he has much darkness in his soul. He has the soul of determination same as Frisk and CHARA. At the beggining of the game someone is asking "Are we connected?". Darkness from that fountain woke up Chara and now she controls Kris' body, because they are connected.
That's it. My english is not the best, because it's not my main language. Sorry about that.
Good point．
Yes
True lol
Quit whining, he still explained it.
character limit probably
After fighting Jevil and seeing what he said, this all makes a lot of sense. He remained in that jail cell because he said he was the one who was free where as everyone outside is not. He knew what would happen at the end of the chapter meaning that he was not part of this world. He is not following some ultimate plan made by a greater force. That is especially evident if you go and speak to Seam after completing the fight with Jevil. Now Kris is stuck in their jail/cage, but we are free because we have determination.
I think Gaster will be the hero of the story
Did chara posses kris?
I don't think so because in the end of a soulless pacifist run comes a laugh when chara takes over but in deltarune there was no laugh.
I think not
Why him
@@Terminatormonke yes and we are just spectators we are gonna watch her destroy the world in Kris Body
Something i found truly fascinating was that many adjectives are used to describe heroism (courage, strength, hope, etc.), but there is NO mention of determination despite being a main driving force in Undertale. Assuming that Gaster made this world, he may have made it without determination specifically so Chara couldn't cause damage to it. With Chara's introduction, perhaps we will find that the world finally will have "determination" introduced.
Chara isn't evil, and unless they're Kris they are also not in deltarune(and I don't mean possessing Kris)
@@ssjcrafter8842 Chara is. Chara stands for the darker sides in humans that have an urge to kill.
@@bradDark6941 based on what?
I'm waiting
@@bradDark6941 hold on
I just remembered some theory I watched a long time ago.
Are you going by the theory that Chara is our urge to kill, and every act against it and every act of mercy is a blow to Chara?
If so, then start using evidence, or at least don't use a theory with obvious evidence against it
@@bradDark6941 no answer?
"don't forget"
"im with you in the dark"
That song was kinda creepy
Does everybody forget that deltarune is actually the symbol of the royal family?
Yes, dude.
E X A C T L Y
The three triangles could represent the 3 heroes.
The original menaning was long forgotten tho
The triangles pointing up would be Kris and Susie (a human and a monster)
and the triangle pointing down would be the prince of darkness ( ralsei)
That doesn’t sound garbled, it sounds like an audio code. Has anybody run it through that thing that checks for images in audio files?
People never do that anymore and it saddens me
Clotted Scream the dude who made the video didn’t speed up the sound enough
no joke, speed it up x666 and it’s Gaster’s theme
It's 666%, as in almost 7x speed. 666x speed would not come out as any form of coherent noise lol
@@alyx1a he sped it up too much. 10x, or 1000% instead of the correct 666%
I checked, if you look closely at it sideways you see Gaster.
Fandom: "the dark world isn't real"
Egg: MY GOALS ARE BEYOND YOU UNDERSTANDING
Ralsei huh?
More like Asriel ?
No (r)
Ralsei
R+a+l+s+e+i=A+s+r+i+e+l
(Same letter but places changed)
Oh undertale and deltarune is same letters too btw
Its an angram.
I think we all got that, yes. Consistent with the anagram theme of this one.
Actually a lot of other things in this game may be anagrams
Deltarune=Undertale
Kris=Risk
Susie=Issue
Spoilers obviously but
... I think you may be missing the point. Whilst Gaster may be involved, atleast in the beginning where you're being transferred into Kris as a soul, but the ending shows that Kris already HAS a soul or atleast had been able to live without a typical soul. Kris is not Chara. Infact, we're semi stripping Kris of their will by controlling them. (since its apparent they can well, rip us out.)
Honestly if there IS any direct conenction between Undertale and DeltaRune, the only connections I could draw between them are Sans still knowing more than he should, and us potentially being Frisk, in Kris' body, as aided by Gaster in the beginning. The reason I think we're still Frisk, is how our color pallete shifts from Chara, and also Kris' color pallete, to Frisk's whilst in the Darkner realm. Suzie's does not change, she simply gets spikier. Also Ralsei, being an anagram of Asriel, isnt a coincidence I feel. We know Asriel still exists in the overworld, so obviously Ralsei and Asriel are NOT one in the same, but they most likely are somehow related.
Also that set of doors leading underground, I feel is just a way directly from the normal world, to the darkner world. Which has been sealed off, like how the monsters in Undertale were sealed away.
Also, Chara isnt inherently evil. misguided, and hurt from their time being abused on the surface in Undertale, yes. But not evil. They ARE the Narrator in undertale. so a PACIFIST route, reveals and makes the good in them blossom. Whereas a GENOCIDE route, lets them feel as if the cruelty and violence in their heart is ok to put out there and corrupt and destroy to get what they want. Losing all their sense of morals. Because WE showed them that.
But Chara was evil already. In the recordings at the true lab, it was shown that Chara did some creepy things when he lived with the Dreemurr family
Not sure about the Chara part but I like the idea of Kris having the two souls (one being his one and one being the player) which basically means we are stealing his ability to choose and instead go the peaceful route. This would explain why he rips out a soul (the players) and then pulls out a knife as he prefers to kill everyone. Also it would explain why all the monsters think of him as the creepy kid.
@@jsoimn6812 Kids do things for attention. Again Chara may not have been inherently bad, just misguided. The fact that Asriel asked them to "Do the creepy face" meant their "brother" azzie liked it. so they did it. as for some of the other things, they obviously did not have a great life before falling down, and how they acted reflected that. A kid would NOT know how to act being metally scarred at such a young age. Even chara laughing when asgore had been given buttercups is ambiguous as they might not have known how to feel and just, laughed, trying to figure out what to feel or feeling guilty they forced themselves to laugh to hide their sadness/weakness. Part of their reason they ran away, and fell was probably due to being abused and showing weakness causing more abuse.
@@caro5281 Indeed, I didnt think much of it until the end when we get ripped out and its just, "o-oh... oh.. We're not them. We're PUPPETING them. D:" so in the long run it may be the better thing to do, atleast for the darkner world, but if so, I dont think Kris will ever forgive us.
@@Luigi4evernevermario well but then we didn't make him evil, he was evil already when we started the game and we just let him take control of our body by doing a genocide route
I think that Undertale was created after delta rune. hear me out please. the photo labeled don't forget has three smiling figures, my thought is those three figures are Kris Susy and Ralsei and the end credits make certain to establish the pictures meaning of don't forget. the only was for sans to have that image in Undertale is if he was in the timeline with Deltarune first, it would also explain him knowing the sun. I have a strong feeling we will also find a badge on the way in Deltarune that will explain why he has that. That is just a guess however. So just to make certain you know what I'm talking about because this is confusing, I think Gaster made Deltarune first it then got destroyed by Chara and then he made Undertale.
That's actually not a bad theory.
Summer Jennings Sounds like a good theory, but I don't think that it always has to do something with Gaster.
Also, the end song is named ,,Don't forget"
This seems very, very interesting.
It was made in under 6 months. Deltarune took 7 years to complete. Toby Fox confirmed that
Starstruck Why are you telling that?
I thought about that too. Sans also mentions that he gave up trying to go back a long time ago, and then he says that trying to get to the surface doesn't appeal anymore EITHER. Was he implying that the place he was trying to go back was not the surface, but a different place?
It saddens me that you're still in the "Chara is Evil" camp even after the influences of the other Chara theories.
Evil? No. Fucked up? Yes.
ded dude, she/he is only evil in the genocide route-
Thank you
ded, I see what you meant by ducked up now ;-;
@@shane____ no, they just want to you to stop killing people.
Soo you guys just gonna ignore the fact that delta rune is the royale family symbol ?
Lol i just joking i know you guys does not ignore that but..... Deltarune is a savior or a god like being that supposed to be monster is savior i remember someone in undertale told me that
deltarune is awesome no one can debate it im just worried toby might be overworking himself.....alot
I actually don't think that Chara and Gaster are fighting against each other, but working togheter. I think Gaster can create diffrent Timelines out of the existing ones, but not really controll the people he created. One the other side there is Chara, some sort of bodyless, timeline consuming Demon, wich can take over other peoples bodies. Futher I think Gaster wants to return to the "normal" World or also only continue his research to the timelines, what means he needs someone to test everything and this someone is Chara. He gives Chara a body and new Timelines to destroy and Chara helps him by doing certain things he want to test. (Sorry for the bad english. I'm not really good in it.)
Considering how chara acts I kind of doubt they would willingly test things out. Now if Gaster tricks Chara into helping him that makes a lot more sense to me at the very least.
If it's gaster that makes timelines... What if Gaster is actually.. Toby Fox?
@@xaphok2173 Toby Fox is the dog. Gaster doesn't look like a dog.
Nah that be the annoying dog and it has more power over gaster himself.
What if Chara is a timeline traveller and destroyer who wants to kill Gaster to stop the timeline creation? He may have found out in which timeline is Gaster hiding right now. The player is a test subject, so Gaster was about to give us a body, however, he then realized that Chara had entered his own timeline and had possessed Kris, so he wants us to control Kris and Chara so that he can gain some time to find the way to expell Chara from the timeline or the way to escape to another timeline himself. And he may also want to keep testing timelines, but he can't just send us to a timeline with Chara being also in Kris' body because it would be deadly if Chara took over it, so he sends Susie with us to limitate our decisions
I just realised that the version of the game is 6.6.6
oh no
We all die
The Jevil's in the details!
Oh no
I would like to add an expeculation, that maybe sans and papyrus, being associated with gaster in some ways. Are able to jump between realities, maybe even to gather data and track chara down for Gaster. Thats why sans doesn't seem to belong to the monsters world or to the surface, and they always suddenly move into location without people knowing where they came from.
So maybe... just maybe... this sans is indeed the same sans from undertale
Except Chara isn't evil
But he might want to contact the anomaly? Except still no or he would've done it already
Sorry, don't think it works
I totally didn't realize you could still move your heart during the final cutscene. Holy shit.
Proof you're actually possessing Frisk and are unwelcome in someone else's life when they know their way
DeltaRune is such an awesome game.
why did you posses kris :(
Can't wait for next chapters
its good, indeed, but the characters and the plot seems bland compared to undertale.
Dont get me wrong, its still a good game, but i was hoping something of UT levels of quality and got slighly dissapointed.
@chara Dreemurr .....wait arent you the one going to erase it?.........if you like it why do you erase it
@@SheepyJester frisk and chara doesnt exist in deltarune, so chara isnt going to do anything in deltarune at all.
Atleast we can say there’s a mystery in the “heart” of the cards.
*Something Something EXODIA OBLITERATE*
Exodia!? Impossible! No ones ever been able to summon him!
On the subject of Gerson, note that his Gravestone does have a hammer on it - like the hammer he supposedely fought with in the war. So, to me, that suggests that he was a warrior of some kind.
Edit: Oh right, in the library it says that "Lord of the Hammer" is an award-winning fiction series of his. Must be one hell of a story to have that Hammer on his gravestone
Or a smith. Or a builder
Or a plumber
Alexiofy He was a historían.
It would have been on his grave stone if he was come on now
Alexiofy *cominism intensifies*
Hey do you guys remember how The townsfolk in Snowdin said the Sans+Papyrus just kinda showed up one day. I wonder if this game plays into that
Imagine gaster is just a normal scientist that got stuck in the dark world and tried to create a vessel to get out and honestly has no idea what is happening at all. And the eggs given to the vessel are supposed to be eaten as eggs for food.
My understanding of Gaster's case is much similar to something that happened in the anime "Madoka Magica" (which I'll try to spoil as little as possible, but spoilers still ahead, so be warned).
So, basically, there's this one entity that, somehow, became scattered in all of time and space. In Madoka's case, the entity became a "concept", a law of the universe itself, the embodiment of an action which was "to destroy all Witches before they even came to life." It didn't matter which timeline it was, this entity just stopped existing altogether, the memories of it erased, the very "possibility of it existing" negated, since it was no more that entity, and now was something like a Divinity, which could not interact with the real world further beyond it's very concept. On the third movie of this franchise, we are also told that some of the people this entity "killed" before they could become a monster, became part of the Law itself too, something like "assistants", or "followers."
I always thought Gaster was the same as this. His falling into his creation and becoming scattered in time and space not only affected "him", but also all of the possible versions of him, including past, future and alternate Gasters. He's basically this lone God exiled from reality, unable to interact with anything directly, with a few followers that are also kinda exiled from reality but not as hardly as himself.
However, in Madoka Magica, other being also followed the path of the first entity, becoming a being as powerful as itself, becoming also a concept of the universe, that embodied "all that is evil", and called itself "that which is opposite of God, so it'd make sense to call me the Devil." This new entity "trapped" in some way the first entity back into the physical plane, just for the sake of undoing it's work and creating chaos, splitting the Law of Cycles into the power that destroys Witches, and the person that it was before becoming it.
After coming to this realisation, I thought: what if Gaster is not opposed to Chara, but rather trying to utilize them? Maybe he realised that Chara could also somehow, with their power, reach the realm of impossibilities that Gaster inhabits. Perhaps in trying to destroy every single world and timeline, they'd eventually find their way there, in order to destroy it as well. And once a path to get in is created, the same path could be used to also get out, which is exactly what Gaster would want. To experiment with Chara (or rather, the players who embody the concept of Chara) and try to use them as a method to undo his accident and become "real" once more.
Also, now that I think about it, Undertale made it very clear that it got some of its inspiration from works of anime. It wouldn't be that crazy to think that Toby Fox himself is a fan, and that he had some inspiration from actual series like Madoka Magica, among others.
Scientists tend to utilize test subjects.
Gaster is moving across existence. And Sans, Chara, Asriel, and us, the player, are following.
What if the roles in delta rune changed and humans are underground and monsters are on the overworld
Could be a possibility because Kris is the only human througout the game
So humans live alongside the card people?
@@dixieenormis1783 but wouldn't kris be underground too
@@blitzshadow9148 Maybe they made an exceprion for Kris?
That could mean the darkners (i think is how you say it) are fallen humans
Chapter 1: Question mark
Chapter 2: aHah fUnNy sPamTon bAnAna
I watched this vid an hour ago than played the game and realized the store sans is in front of is grillby’s but the sign is scratched off and you can still se the “ ,s “ part and you can notice the “ans” part of sans is written with pen to look like it’s his store and you can still see some of the sign and it also looks exactly like it
Example
Grillby’s #######’sans
Sorry if this is too long and for some grammar issues.
A well known fact already
Their house is also the same
SSJCrafter dude this was like a year ago
@@disappointment8104 yes
Was it not well known a year ago?
6:37-I thought that the door looked like the enterence to the underground. Also, in the music, there are traces of Gastor's theme.
Dude, your game looks amazing!! Why'd you abandon it?
@SorenSymphonies, Probably gave up.
@@fandomguy8025 thats what happens when you abandon things??????? tf you mean
Life happened, essentially. Once highschool ended, life was kicked into overdrive. I developed it in an older engine too that became outdated.
@@rarecrom Sometimes, you might get overwhelmed by feelings of inadequacy, of the game or yourself not being good enough.
@@SwankyBox Ah.
Can you release your game
We would love to play it
Your not wrong
@@connorschultz380 you're
@chunkyxy lmao
Deltarune/Undertales letters can also be re arranged to Altered un and un in French means one
This probably is dumb but I think these might be altered universes of another universe we haven’t seen
Not dumb at all. We assume that this world in Chapter 1 is the Main Reality. But... that may not be true. It could be that this universe, and the Darkverse both, might be based on yet another universe which we might have to travel to. Most likely, the Light and Dark Worlds are what we'll be dealing with, but we shall find out all this together.
Un in Spanish is “a” or “one” also
It feels like less of a war and more 'Gaster placed... Whoever they are... In a box to study them'. And I get the vibe the entity reallllly wants a piece of the Good Doctor.
I think the deltarune universe takes place before undertale. In undertale, we all know about san’s basement. But, if you talk to the clam girl, you find a picture of three smiling people with the words “don’t forget”. For starters, you only find this after talking to the clam girl, aka learning about Suzy’s existence. Secondly, the ending song in deltarune is called Don’t forget. And deltarune has a group of three people. I speculate that at the end of deltarune, this world is somehow destroyed and no one remembers it, besides sans and possibly gaster and chara. But a new world is created. The undertale world. Also, Chara in undertale is much weaker than in deltarune. You need to get a lot of exp for chara to gain some control in undertale, while in deltarune, they only need you to make a simple choice.
Think about the prince and the correlation people want to make with him and sans because of their similar traits and attitudes. This could be the prince trying to remember his friends, as he could be transferred through to the undertale reality, with the ending of deltarune speculating the destruction of that reality which supports him being possibly retrived by gaster with the machine, but it malfunctioning causing the prince to split into papyrus and sans. It's a lot of theoretical ideas but it's a stretch I want to take.
Pretty sure you can find that picture in Sans' back room without talking to clam girl.
@@charlylmaoo5953 you can find it however, it doesn't have the text that says there are three friends, it just says there is a photo.
at 5:03 I just realized the Survey_Program is version 6.6.6. Interesting. I'm a new sub dude, this is the second video Ive seen from you- amazing editing and covering of info! Great content!
Swanky. I think you should release your rpg. All of us here would love to see it!
Yeah even if incomplete, it could be fun
There's still something that's bothering me:
So, when your character, Kris, falls into the dark world, one of the first things you are presented with is a strangely shaped figure that, when you pass by it, starts swaying back and forth. It's weird how closely it resembles a certain, unexplained thing in undertale. Remember when, entering the true lab, you come across a room where there is a shadow of an unknown object behind a shower curtain waving back and forth. As you get closer, it starts swaying faster and faster, until you finally pull back the curtain, revealing... a green key. Many fans, including myself, have thought of this to be an amalgamate, but what if it's just the strange object from deltarune, that had somehow gotten into a different world. What if Gaster has something to do with this? Maybe both games interlope with each other? Or is this a whole different matter altogether?
It's not one of those, the shape is still different
Something I noticed: on the Status screen, 1. Kris's class is LV1 Human, whereas Susie and Ralsei have more specific titles (Mean Girl, Fluffy Boy iirc) and 2. Kris's description states "body contains a SOUL", not something like "body powered by its human soul". This leads me to believe that in Chapter 2, you will play as Kris's soul, possibly taking on a new form or merging with someone else (betting on Susie or Sans, but who knows) and fighting your own body.
I mean, we still have the old soul that we can use to control or load
why does EVERYONE keep thinking Chara is a evil monster? they are NOT there is plenty of evidence in Undertale, wich shows that Chara is the narrator, a person who is behind Frisk, translating everything & punishing the PLAYER if a genocide route happens
Completely true!
But she got corrupted in Genocide but she still isn't complete evil.
nathan prins Because Chara helps you from the onset of the Genocide Route. They aren’t corrupted by LV, you can kill 49-50 Knight Knights in the CORE and not be forced onto a Genocide Route.
@@firebluetoad3990 good point
nathan prins while I agree Chara isn’t evil, the version I believe people are referring to is Post-Genocide Chara, who was corrupted by LV and witnessing Frisk slaughter everyone they knew and loved, know wants nothing more than to ruin any and all timelines they come across.
I'm gonna be honest, That thumbnail looks like it was made in Microsoft Powerpoint.
Mercury635 how can you make a thumbnail in PowerPoint? Isn’t that a slideshow creator?
@@leobird1228 It is, It's just that the effects and shapes used look like something out of powerpoint.
Just want to say that nobody is Analysing the entry number 17 again after delta Rune got out and one thing that I want to say that one of the two characters Gaster is talking to (atleast i think ) is jevil or what the secret boss Name is because the mage ( first shopkeeper) said that the jester (secret boss) met someone and changed got crazy and i think that the jester got some of Gasters powers and May be a New recruit (or old ) for gaster
....wat
@@kilderok just look up the secert boss in delta Rune or the Video from merg he showed how to get to the secret boss and what i meant entry number 17 "dark darker yet darker .
Darkness keeps on growing .
Shadows cutting deeper.
The next Experiment seem very interesting what do you two think? "
But yeah nobody look at that again after delta Rune got out and Analysis again
And the "dark darker yet darker" Part is like a forshadowing for delta Rune and the darkener world so yeah
What does "secert" mean
After chapter 2 I had the idea that maybe the "sealed door" was chapter 7's dark world
Matpat found out that if you name your vessel Gaster, the start up sequence resets
Release that RPG you worked on!
I just noticed, goner monster kid can be monster kid, because clam girl changes her sprite so monster kid could have had a changed sprite
*SANS UNDERTALE HAS JOINED THE GAME*
@Exotic Razor Yes ? Why ?
Ness deltarune
sand undertall from earthbound says stop
snas rednualte
Something interesting is the fact that Ralsei's true face is just asriel's face but with pink horns... the same pink horns kris got from Toriel when he asked her when his horns where going to grow out. I think Ralsei is just Kris way of imagining a perfect borther, and not the brother he got that is so perfect and likable that nobody in town that talks to Kris actually pays attention to him, they all just want to talk about his brother. I love these kind of little details that play to a bigger picture in the story.
my personal head canon is the "go back home" he was referring to in his genocide fight, was delta rune. in the delta rune world, my head canon is that the previous owner of the shop Grilby's, retired, and Sans took over, too lazy to replace the sign, so he scribbled over it and wrote his name.
Edit: I like this. I think he was saying how in chapter 1, not many choices mattered, but in chapter 2 they will start to matter. what I DON'T like, is him pinning evil stuff on Chara. I mean, WE are the influence. It is US who seeks to toy with these worlds, Chara was just forced onto the ride.
There is another choice you can make: Free Jevil, or not free Jevil.
And then another choice, fight Jevil, or pacify him.
Fighting him gets you a weapon, pacifying him gets you armour.
I personally believe that this isn't in a parallel world at all. Toby saying that this isn't in the world of Undertale makes sense though, because it's not. Clearly, someone did something to mess with the timeline of everything. What Toby is trying to establish is that something is wrong in this world. It is the world of Undertale, but messed up so much that it it isn't recognizable anymore, and that's what he means. Chara, however, still knows everything. After being corrupted by the genocide run over, and over, and over again, they are angry with the current world. Frisk did everything they could to make things straight, but it wasn't enough. Chara corrupted the timeline, and is now out to do whatever evil thing they had planned.
transtaions of the begining text
''attentionall undertalegamers.sansundertaleisingreatdangerandheneedsyourhelptomegalovaniaharder.butinordertodothis,heneedsafewbottlesofketchupandanessmask.tohelphim,allhe needsis yourcreditcard number,thethreedigitsontheback,and theexpirationmonthandyear.
butgottabequicksosansundertale can trombone outta the''
thank you
Dabs
Outta the
the weird route in chapter two seems to back up this idea that this lack of choice is an ongoing struggle
yes
I also found two interesting facts that hint at some very interesting implications.
1. Gaster is a fake persona used by Toby?
In the credits of Earthbound, the person who is credited to the "Opening Rock Music" is named "M.D. Seeger.
There were rumours however that this "M.D. Seeger" was in fact a fake alias used by renowned game creator Shigeru Miyamato. Even after all these years it was never proven and still remains a rumour.
Rumour or not, the name"M.D. Seeger" is spelled extremely similarly to W.D. Gaster.
Heck, to turn "M.D. Seeger" into W.D. Gaster, you only need to turn the M initial upside down into a W and replace the first four letters of "Seeger" with "Gast".
Knowing Toby was a huge Eartnound fan, there is a possibility that he based Gaster's name on this name.
A name that was rumoured to be a fake alias used by a very real game creator.
Did Toby base Gaster's name on this rumour? Does this hint that Gaster may be some kind of mysterious, spooky persona he is using, like the Annoying Dog, only more serious and DARKer.
If this is true, then the backstory of Gaster may be more metaphor than fact.
A brilliant scientist (Game developer) fell (got lost into) into his creation (Undertale).
And now he has begun work on his next experiment (Deltarune).
2. Gaster is the master of Chara and is the Devil?
In undertales files, there is a bunch of text written by a entity labelled as "Demon".
It goes like this.
"Greetings"
"You have made yourself perfectly clear"
"Understood"
"I, as your humble servant, will serve you to the utmost"
Who else in Undertale calls themselves a Demon and likes to introduce themselves using the word "Greetings"
Chara.
But, the person that Chara is talking to cannot be the player. Why?
Chara always referred to you as their "Partner", also meaning that Chara viewed themselves as your "Partner".
Partner - Partner = Equals
You and Chara were both equals.
But Chara labels themselves as a "Servant" to this person they are talking to, also meaning that this somebody must be Chara's "Master"
Servant - Master = Not Equals
So if they aren't talking to the Player, who are they talking to?
Well, I think I know who it is.
1. Chara is a Demon
2. They serve a Master
3. The master of Demons is the Devil
4. The number of the Devil is 666
5. The number 666 and Gaster are heavily tied to eachother.
Conclusion: Gaster is the Master, and he is Undertale/Deltarunes analogue of Lucifer, the Fallen Angel.
I hope in chapter 2 we get to fight Gaster
I have something minor I noticed that may link the two games, spoilers below.
In Undertale Switch edition the npc known as Clamgirl, who randomly spawns in waterfall has a special line of dialogue that goes something like this “So you never met my neighbor’s daughter, that’s fine, because the time you will meet them.... is fast approaching...”
after they state this, they become grey like a Gaster follower and vanish with the accompanying sound effect, now here’s the important part, while the player is progressing, not done with the game, Clamgirl says that her neighbor’s daughter was named Susie, like the character in Deltarune. I will leave you all to ponder the significance of this.
i thought this was obvious? actually how obvious it is makes me slightly skeptical. why is the character Clamgirl mentioned named "Suzy" while the character in Deltarune is named "Susie"? i wonder if the difference in spelling is significant or not.
DeltaRune's Principal's CHARACTER is THE ONE from undertale that was unused that normally WAS the players CHARACTER in the beta
AND "Ralsei' Is the name that is 'ASRIEL' If you get A then S then R then I then E and E From the name 'RALSEi' U get asriel....
and after you beat the game you'll se that she is like asriel that makes sense no?
@and also yea
@and also ik that
@and also i was a fan from when undertale was just kickstarter i played the demo
This was a great analysis as always!
I had a thought at around eight minutes in - you mention how Gaster knows that one can't really reach the end or beginning of a timeline, so he chooses go deeper. It just made me think of the concept in math of there being literal infinite decimals between whole numbers such as 1 and 2 (and so on). That between those two small numbers are infinite, endless numbers.
And I find it fascinating that it's applicable to Frisk and Chara. If Gaster and Chara are like yin and yang, I would say that Frisk and Chara are similarly intertwined. The two characters are opposite faces of the same coin, and between them there are infinite timelines, some with Chara dominating (Genocide runs), some with Frisk dominating (Pacifist runs), and then I wonder if Kris is an instance of it not being predetermined, if that exists in the Undertale/Deltarune universe, an instance of Frisk and Chara being weighted against one another without one being more prevalent than the other.
As most people know, Toby Fox did a lot of the music for the webcomic of Homestuck, and the Frisk/Chara dynamic reminds me a bit of the cherubs. Whichever personality is stronger in will (or Determination, rather) will predominate.
Chara isn't evil, Frisk isn't a pacifist that won't hurt a fly, and neither exist in deltarune
This whole idea of gaster creating another world feels familiar...
THEREFORE GASTER IS TOBY FOX
Now I want a timeline where we see pacifist influenced chara, the one that isn’t a killer and is nicer.
KRIS is FRISK without the F, another anagram..! Maybe it's important
ALSO the ending song file is named "dontforget" just like the secret Sans room message in Undertale..
That's.... Not an anagram
F to pay respect
Frisk died on top of the mountain in the pacifist ending
Im pretty sure Sans is acting like he forgot you.
swanky box : if you can't go out , go deeper
me : yeah dont do that with youtube.
I absolutely love your theories around differing timelines being created by Gaster while also trying to be altered by Chara. So much potential from just one chapter out of a full game yet to be released. But, I do have some wonders for what there is to come from Chara, and especially what else needs to be done in the Dark. We still have yet to touch on the Knight of the Dark, who influenced the King into imbalance, creating the other dark fountain... There's also the even more vague mention of a Queen by Jevil after defeating him... and something a bit controversial, if not just barely touched on how the Legend Ralsei told Kris and Susie may not have been fulfilled properly, and that Ralsei may not be exactly who we believe they say they are.
My theory is, based around Chara, isn't that she found a way into Deltarune due to the first appearance of choice in the game, breaking the bounds Gaster set up to be a perfect world to exist and cause chaos, but instead was created the moment Kris used their soul to banish the fountain and returned home with Susie. But in reality, we knew by the Legend that the three champions would dispell the fountain together to return balance between the Dark and Light. Yet, Ralsei wasn't present when they stood before the Fountain... the Legend wasn't properly fulfilled, and instead of the three champions banishing the Dark Fountain... Kris merely absorbs the Dark into their soul, imbalancing themself, creating the Chara of Deltarune because of it...
Not only that, but when Ralsei removed his hat, he was revealed to 'maybe' actually being a Boss Monster Lightener, than the Prince of the Dark... though we don't really know much about Darkerners in the first place, it's a possibility that makes sense for the context. It could be heavily implied that he's actually a she, but lied to protect her identity from something worse, to protect her friends... perhaps this Knight we have yet to know is also very dangerous... and I mean as dangerous as Gaster or Chara is, in their own way, making Ralsei try to get Kris to fulfill the Legend as swiftly as possible, only to accidentally make her absorb the Dark instead of dispelling it... We can't be too certain however, without the rest of the game to outright tell us.
Except for one thing...
Chara isn't evil, nor dangerous
They never were evil(except after genocide UT ending where they became a megalomaniac) and Chara doesn't exist in deltarune
I do think Ralsei is a boy, but it does make sense if he is a lightner(IDK how to pronounce) since he isn't connected to toys, but is to goats, the same way as goat family without humans
The voice that discards your vessel actually has a similar speech pattern to Chara, which is more noticeable in the Japanese translation, so I honestly doubt the idea of Chara not existing in Deltarune.
@@Demon-vj9nc Can you translate it from Japanese please?
@SSJCrafter
So... your thoughts?
@@Demon-vj9nc what is the translation?
Evil is brewing... Gets an ad about politics.
Welp Kris constantly turns into chara, even that reindeer tells you to stop "scaring her daughter"
Maybe Kris = Chara
Eren Jäger maybe its been happening at night but with his most recent encounter underground with darkness and basically showing new found signs of determination by respawning and doing the parallel of breaking the barrier, chara take full control now
Thing is asriel’s shirt has a hole in it
You think maybe he killed his brother in his sleep and never knew it? His mom decided not to blame him and name the tragedy college to cover it up?
Just joking but its never far from possibility
Actually fits with what small information we have
x Tnemal He 100% sure he switches between chara and kris every night, because the birdcage is beaten from all the times he threw the heart
@@PacoReer Don't forget the blood stain next to the cage.
What he thought Chapter 2 was: same town. With Gaster appearance
What we thought (or people who waited for Deltarune chapter 2 or had to wait): KRIS IS THE BAD GUY
What we got: Potassium. BIG SHOT!!!
yes
That Gaster sound effect is also directly in Undertale in the secret Entry 17 room, too
Love these theories
ı think monsters and humans lives in peace in this alternative universe. they lived in peace they are living at peace and they will live at peace (sorry for the grammar, bad english)
they lived in peace they are living at peace and they will live at peace
oh you said it
I think that's what's going on.
Ralsei is also an anagram of asriel
Yeah i noticed that too.
Deltarune is a anagram of undertale
The amount of clickbait in this videotitle is staggering tbh.
I knew someone would speed up that door sfx. Nice!
Undertale and Deltarune are different! Just look at these dialogues:
Sans in Undertale: DO YOU WANNA HAVE A BAD TIME?
Sans in Deltarune: I just befriended your mom.
T_T
Also Sans in Undertale: "seems like you're working yourself..."
"down to the bone"
This is more or less the quote
i think with undertale we will find deltarune's story with deltarune we will find undertales story
Maybe
Possibly, Comrade Stalin.
they literally are not related other than reoccurring characters and world. They. are. not. connected.
@@jamiesadf5829 at least not yet. You never know.
In deltarune when you look at the cage it's says it's seen a few crashes so maybe chara comes out every night to do some weird thing's and take control of Kris every night
Kris is a werechara
I Like To Think it like this:
*TobyFox*: "Man, this game is so complicated to make(He Said so)! I think i'll just make one ending to this game.."
*[after he finished making the beta]*
*TobyFox*:"There! I'll just programmed gaster in this game so he could protect the soul so there will be no other endings. Now, I'll just inform everybody in Twitter that this game only has 1 ending.. (again, he said this too (maybe))"
*[Later aat the ending of deltarune chapter 1]*
*Chara*: MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!! NOW TOBY FOX WILL BE FORCED TO MAKE MORE ENDINGS!!!!
Chara isn't evil...
@@ssjcrafter8842 frisk isn't chara is.
@@bradDark6941 This is absolutely wrong
I would somewhat accept that if you gave me proof that Chara is evil, but not just you didn't, you used a completely based theory that makes no sense AKA "Frisk isn't evil", unless I misinterpreted that to "Frisk is a pacifist child that won't hurt a fly"
@@bradDark6941 do you not have an answer to that?
Makes sense because it's baseless
"trouble is brewing" - UA-cam cuts to an ad starting with a shot of a tower
COnSpIRaCY
I'd like to point out that the portal's texture at 8:08 is identical to a few other mystery areas in the game. For example, the character creation screen.