The Truth About Opteka (And the MK1 Alternatives)
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
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TIMESTAMPS:
Intro/Context - 00:00
Opening Montage - 00:37
The Kapkur Lens - 02:22
VX1000Market & Other Alternatives - 02:46
IMPORTANT NOTE - 04:07
History Of Opteka - 04:30
History Of Kapkur - 05:13
Panjiva Subscription - 05:56
1st Evidence - 06:23
2nd Evidence - 06:43
3rd Evidence - 06:53
The Cost Of The Lenses - 07:14
Blue Vignette Issue - 07:32
2 Generations Of Opteka/Kapkur Lens - 08:05
Advice - 08:32
Sign Off - 08:45
Final Montage - 08:56
Credits - 10:30
What originally started as just me revealing this information I'd discovered, turned into an appreciation video of the Opteka/MK1 alternatives. You don't need a Century lens to get good footage. Like, subscribe and all that crap.
Thanks to these lovely people for sending their footage!
Rik Bellings - / rikbellings
Henry Blanton - / @thelibraryco
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Nicholas Kuznetsov - / mouldychitos / / @962l
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Nick Vieweg - / nickvieweg // damnsogracious?...
Jude Harr - • It's a Sony (Full Length) // judeharr8?igshi...
Dan Weston - • MILKY 2
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get sharper vig/less blue fringing by using a smaller aperture (5.6, 6.8, etc). and if the blue fringe still bothers you, you can make a circular matte and then take out the blue saturation.
What would that be on a vx?
On the DVX its hardly a problem, it tends to just be black vig
I actually kinda prefer the blue fringing, it dirty ups the lens quiet well
I’m new to camcorders what is vig and cirkular matte
@@OscarRoed vig is the vignetting/corners of the lens in the shot. a matte is in editing, a way to select just parts of the image like the vignette to reduce the blue fringing
this is mad informative i actually just recently got into shooting with a vx a year and a half ago and i bought a 350 dollar opteka clone from deathlens fisheye sales when i didn’t know what i was doing
Killin it with the filmer content! Cheers mane
abslutely fantastic edit at the end. love the song choice
Cheers mate!
loved my years filming with this lens! great vid
These types of research videos are great. You’re truly doing the lords work
So helpful, much appreciated manee 🙏🏽
Best dude on youtube. Thanks for all the info, its worth money!!!!
Sick vid man! I personally own the old version of the opteka and a mk2 and they r pretty similar to say the least
Love this! Cheers for making
Hell yeah man! Still miss my mk1 but I swear by my opteka now. And I personally quite like the blue colour fringing. Cheers for using my footy! 👊
Cheers for sending that good shit in lad!
Sick footage! Very crispy, were you using a 52mm Opteka on the Vx1000? Any spacers?
great video!!
Nice!!thanks and hello from
Guam
Anybody looking to find a fisheye needs to see this
Super good video dude. My son and I just picked up a new opteka for 100$. Excited to try it out.
Thanks dude! I hope you and him enjoy using it :)
great vid boss
sick video very well made, i like my opteka i think its great bc it doesnt cost much so i can get close filming and not have to worry :D
That's my main thing too!
Yo charvao good to see you here man! Cheers!
This is super interesting. Damn
I have a JVC GY HM100E with 46mm lens thread. If i buy a 52 mm kapur lens then i just need a step down ring from 52 to 46mm to make it work right ?
Thanks for this video, saves a lottt of money.
sick dude!
I’m trying to find a possible adapter for my mamiya 645 1000s, I’m using the 45mm. Do you think this would be a possible fit ?
Hi mate, I’m considering getting a Sony Camcorder, most likely the ax-53. Would these lens cause a vignette effect? Or do you need spacer rings to provide that? Not a fan of the vignette effect at all.
What fisheye do you recommend for a Panasonic ag-ac30?
anyone got any info about the backorder for 72mm on bh? need one before october so idk whats up with it
Is there any way to make the keyhole effect even more intense? Or even more distorted?
I own an Ursa12k (which can only do EF, PL and M42) otherwise I would have bought the 7Artisans 4mm.
But the adapters also look cool, like the HAL250
informative!
Hi there been looking for a fish eye for my Sony zv1, just saw the quick clip of you unboxing it and it's huge, probably bigger than my zv1 lol, is it really heavy
Hey ben i had a crazy idea, what would happened if one would buy just the front element of the mk1 and put it on a mk2 back element, the magnification is the same so focus should be the same, but would it give the extra 5 degrees of fisheye that the mk1 has over the mk2?
Dan Rusin clips, heck yea
Loved this! If you ever wanted to do something on handles i have all the eazy handles + the opteka fake. Could be another interesting video to match this vibe
Any interest in selling a V2??
@@embabbitt never
Please!
Any links to the opteka or an alternative. Just got an XM2
Bro you just saved me a lot of money 🍺
Nice video very helpful. I have the Sony DCR-DVD205 Handycam with Filter Front 25mm. I found on aliexpress a 37mm 0.3X HD Ultra Fisheye Lens can I mount this lens on my camera with some way ? Please help me. Any recommendations.
Hi Ben! do you happen to remember the names of those "knockoffs" of the opteka? I remember mine was neewer I think. But they were a ton! Im trying to get luck on craigslist or marketplace on a used one hehe
hell yea! u used my friends clip that i was in to!
Ayyy!
Just recently purchased a panasonic HC-PV100 and I’m looking for a somewhat affordable lens. If I were to buy a kapkur 52mm fisheye lens or any lens with a bigger mm measurement, would it work on my 49mm camera with a step ring without any vig or complications?
Sorry for the late reply!
I have no prior experience with that camera so I'm not sure. If you went a head & bought the lens please respond to let me know how it went!
Omg those lenses at 4:37 one of those was my first ever lol
I have a camcorder with a 30.5 mm filter mount and i bought a fisheye from bower, is the brand ok for fisheyes?
Yeee it should be ok
Hi Ben.
Can I connect a bayonet mount century optics lens to sony ax53(55mm thread) using step up adapters/converters?
Thanks for the video.
I believe you can! Dan Magee has managed to make a MK1 fit an original Sony VX1 (not the VX1000). Give him a message on Insta and he might be able to explain it
Hello can you recommend a fishe eye for a canon XM2, I just got it and I don't know which fishe eye to buy
I believe you'll need a 58mm!
9:46 wtfffff bro just did a 540 boneless like that's a normal trick
personally I don't mind chromatic aberration. You can likely reduce the effect in post if you really wanted to. Through Resolve all things are possible.
Thank you
anyone know anywhere to purchase a kapkur, seems to be sold out for a bit now ?
Yes plz. Need now!!
Currently trying to find a fisheye lens to use for a weird streaming setup (camcorder > USB Capture > OBS) so it can see as much of my studio space as possible. Not having any luck here in Brazil (plus import taxes are a nightmare haha).
Unfortunately I’ve been a victim to DL sales for my vx, man I should’ve jus done a little more research 🤦🏽♂️ There’s fresh optekas on eBay rn for very cheap. I’m bout to put stickers over these ridiculous brand marks. Thanks for the info man.
Do these opteka lenses (72 mm) work just directly to the hpx or do u need step down rings? I am buying my first hpx and trying to get a fisheye for it as well. Anyone have any recommendations for lenses/ if they need rings I’ll most likely be going with the opteka or alternatives I just don’t understand if it mounts directly or not. If anyone has any advice pls help
You'll need a 72mm spacer ring but after that it should screw on just fine
Thank u, you the online pro for this ❤️
The opteka lens works perfect with my hpx170. You will have to remove the lens hood to avoid seeing it in the side of the shot (since it never seems to go on quite the same, adjusting it won’t work). If you really want to keep the lens hood, zooming to somewhere between 6.6x and 7x seems to work best for me. Taking the lens hood off also means that the lens cap will then rest on the glass of the lens rather than the hood. What I currently do while transporting the lens in the case is put the hood inside of the lens cap and rest it on the lens as if it were attached. Basically just like normal but the screws attaching the hood have been removed. Also, I ordered from Amazon, and the lens came with a spacer ring that allows me to attach the lens to my camera without having to order anything else.
Ive been looking for days and i dont know what to do. Ive got my vx1000 and I'm looking for a fisheye. The mk's are out of the question because of my budget. The kapkur seems to be unavailable, i dont know where I should get my 52mm fisheye. Does anyone have any tips?
The Kapkur might be available soon hopefully, you're best bet might be getting an Opteka from B&H or off eBay!
@@BenJonesVideographer ive got one off dhgate, thanks anyways
Hey Ben, Changchun is actually a city in China, Richen is the name of the company, I do a little research on Chinese Amazon, and they didn’t sale their lens cheaper in China, it’s still almost 100 ponds😢
Well now I feel ignorant! 😅 thank you! I has no idea dude
I currently have a Sony HDR XR160 and I think I have to buy a 37mm fish eye and wanted to know how can I get the vignette effect?
You can get it by adding spacer ring OOOR if you have some other 37 converters, you can try modding it by adding additional concavoconvex lens
bought my mk1 for 600 in 2007 still got it!
Can you help me out with this decision, there's a company called realm that's selling a 58mm .3x fisheye that looks slightly different than the regular generic Opteka. Or is it? Its around the same price, but I've noticed in their video they have significantly more 'mk1' looking footage than an Opteka
its the exact same as an opteka!
@@BenJonesVideographer ahahaha yea I figured that out too, what a bunch of assholes 🤣. I think im going to try the Raymod
Do you have a link to the footage of the realm fisheye?
@@bvilledrummer14 ua-cam.com/video/6QZqv5Uceys/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/gHYmQ84YGK8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Rx3iAnBw9Ek/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/OUItjt8bnbU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/eSyCsnaT-Zw/v-deo.html
@@BenJonesVideographer Thanks brothaman!
Hey man, i just got one of the Kapkur ones 37mm and it doesn't have black things around the outside like the corner in the footage (i know i sound like a noob) is there something i'm doing wrong?
get 2 or 3 lens spacers then it will show
What mm is your lens ?
You should try contacting the lens manufacturer and just kindly letting them know about the vig issue, ill bet they arent even aware of it. They may try to fix it, or maybe they wont care. But it also may be a good idea just to let them know, so they know that people are still interested in their lenses.
i have a sony dcr sr82 handycam, i wanna get a fisheye and film skate clips on it but i dont know which fisheye to get. im fine with gluing it on too do you have any recomendations
That's a tricky one. I hate that some manufacturers removed filter threads. You could glue a 37mm or a 43mm fisheye to the front, but you'd be better off super glueing a filter thread to the front of the lens, making sure that was secure as fuck THEN attach the lens
@@BenJonesVideographer thank you so much! I want a opteka fisheye for it do you have any recommendations on which threads and fisheye i should glue on?
@@beckham2793 probably go for a 42mm or something around there that'd give you a decent look for sure.
@@BenJonesVideographer Hi sorry for bothering again but im getting a Opteka OPT-SC43FE 43 mm what filter thread should i get?
Love from this yankee boy from Chicago mane 💚🙏🏾
hey whats up, i was searching for a fisheye for my canon vixia hf r800, for the low, any advice?
Stick to an Opteka/Kapkur
@@BenJonesVideographer ik men but i cant find em nowhere, thanks doe
@@enriquediaz4678 i have a canon vixia hf r800 too and I’m buying an opteka 43mm soon. There’s one on Amazon.
Yo guys, got a quick question. For a vx2000, should I get the 58mm Opteka or I can get others (62mm, 52mm..) and use step rings? Would it affect the field of view dramatically?
For 4:3 cameras like the VX's it makes a difference using the smaller filter threads like 52mm, the difference however is more vignette, it might be a tad bit wider but it wouldn't compensate for the larger amounts of vignette. I'd recommend sticking to the 58mm and just using spacer rings. You could go up to 62mm if you really wanted to but there isn't much point
@@BenJonesVideographer Thanks Man. It's actually a Sony PD150, but it's pretty identical to the vx2000 but with some extra features. The thing is it's super hard to find optekas /kapkur here in Spain, and I found this one guy selling a 62mm one, so I was wondering if it was worth it, you know. Super helpful channel btw!
Hey Ben! Thanks a bunch for the videos you have made on this topic! I saw the post on Slap about the lens hood not coming off the newer ones. Is this still the case? I should go with the "Veledge" branded one on their AliExpress store, right? I need a 0.3x for my VX2000E and DSR-PD150P :)
Edit: Vlogmagic was the newer product name. Old cover photos for the "regular" 0.3x but the "real life photos" are showing a different lens hood. Have I got it right?
Hey dude, I think that lens hood issue was just a small issue with a few lenses. I haven't really heard of anyone else having that problem with KapKur lenses since!
@@BenJonesVideographer Okay thanks a lot for the reply! I'm on their Aliexpress page and when I look at the "regular" one (for 58mm thread) it has the old, wider hood on the cover photo but when you click the product you can see a couple of photos of it where the hood has less pronounced extensions. But the Vlogmagic one looks just the like one I'm looking for, just a newer product line? It's a tad bit cheaper too. It's hard to know and there is no e-mail addresses to ask them questions, haha. Sorry for throwing this your way, but you seem to be THE guy to ask. Cheers!
@@BenJonesVideographer do you still have the e-mail address to Kapkur?
I bought the veledge 72 mm, and you can take off the lens hood
Should this work with a Panasonic hmc150 camera I want to make sure before I buy one
You'll want the 72mm for the HMC, unless you wanna do 4x3
@@BenJonesVideographer ok thank you
I might buy a 43mm opteka fisheye lens for my Panasonic hmc40. Will it fit directly on?
Yeah a 43mm .3 fisheye will fit on no problem!
The vignette is not pleasant. Not a lot of good options for the HMC40. I just bought one and am returning it to go full in on an HPX170
@@midnightskate what is the best fisheye option for hmc40?
I see this veledge 58mm one online and It looks extremely similar to the one you’re holding at 3:21 I wanna try it out for my vx1000 since optekas aren’t available rn, and I’ve had a Veledge lens before for 37mm on a smaller camcorder but it was extremely blurry and mine could’ve been faulty or not proper for that camera but, if this is identical to an Opteka I might take my chance but I’d like to know what you think before I do anything.
Sounds like the 37mm was your cameras issue. The veledge fisheye is the exact same to my knowledge as the opteka
@@BenJonesVideographerinteresting okay, is there any additional rings I might need? Since I’m going VX1000 route?
I run Veledge 37mm on my TRV900 and 58mm on my VX2000
Only issue I've had is autofocus can go into no-mans-land under certain conditions, quick ten second fix and it's back, just have to babysit it.
I should note I have a step down ring for the TRV900
Hey,I have Panasonic hvx,kapkur 72mm its fit ?
82mm is the HVX fit. You'll need a 72mm to 82mm step down ring
whos is the footage at 7:56? was super surprised to see my local in this video hahah
managed to snag a 72mm opteka off ebay about 6 months ago for about £130 it took a while waiting for one but it finally happened it's a nice match for my XM2 for sure and also no blue vignetting.
Managed to get a working VX for £150 on ebay the other day so we shall see how it looks on a 52-72mm 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
hey what’s up, I’m about to buy a XM2 and already got a opteka 72mm. how did you make this work, and do you have any footy as an example of what the combination of those look like?
ive been looking for a kapkur for the past couple weeks, just settled for an opteka off of b&h, even though its back order ill spend the extra 50$
God dam it , I just saw this video and I went to B&H and got the opteka lens today. Regardless I’m not disappointed and thanks for the video b!
Ay ya know what you're not the first person to say that! It's all good though it'll still be a solid lens
Hi Ben, since you are the fisheye master on this: i am struggling with some blurry edges on my ali express fisheye like you showed on my panasonic hcx1000. Can you help please bro?
It's possible that the lens is a bit too far away from the camera glass. Are you using any spacers? It's also an idea to stop down your f-stop to increase the sharpness in the corners of the frame, that might help.
It's possible that the lens is a bit too far away from the camera glass. Are you using any spacers? It's also an idea to stop down your f-stop to increase the sharpness in the corners of the frame, that might help.
Make a video about the xtreme fisheye!
I have both generations, but my older one is scratched up a bit and the new one distorts the vig. I hate it but whatever at this point
Ya gotta do what ya gotta do, work with them tools
Hey Ben! What’s your take on mounting a MK1 onto a HVX? Should I go the JBWeld step up ring route? Is there really no adapter from back of MK1 optical threads (behind the bayo) ??
It's definitely do-able but it's not guaranteed. If done exactly it can turn out great but if even a little bit is wrong it can really fuck up the look. I'd reccomend asking @sk8rats about it as he has more experience doing that than me!
@@BenJonesVideographer thanks so much bro.
Im about to buy a lens but now im concerned about the blue fringe. Any news on this lately? I had a Vlogmagic and it was shiiiiite.
@Artifact Ward no mate. Still havent got one. Also the one i tried previous was veledge not vlogmagic.
Do you have any examples of the Vlogmagic? I grabbed one because the Kapkur wasn't getting shipped. It doesn't bother me too much, but I'd like to know what I'm in for
@@McSendersonMedia i actually found a 2nd hand one the other week and its good quality. Could even be the same factory as the opteka.
Any idea what size fisheye lens will fit an xm1? I'm new to all this!
It's a 58mm!
@@BenJonesVideographer diamond, cheers mate!
Hello ben, how many spacer to fix this lense on look great shape?
I'd say 2?
@@BenJonesVideographer ok thank you bro
hi ben 👋🏽! I am very happy with the purchase that I have made thanks to your recommendation, but I have had a problem, the adapter that came with the lens is very small, so I cannot use it, how could I get another one? a greeting
What camera are you trying to mount the fisheye too? And what thread is the fisheye?
@@BenJonesVideographer I have the panasonic hvx200 and the fisheye titanium series 0.3x hd super fisheye lents, 72m
@@jeampierepico you're gonna wanna get a 82mm to 72mm step down ring, then the fisheye will sit nicely on the HVX!
@@jeampierepico that's how I have mine setup and it looks pretty nice. You additionally get a 72mm spacer ring if you'd like more vignette but it's up to you.
@@BenJonesVideographer thanks a lot 🙌🏼
I have a VX2100 and I just got a titanium series 0.3x HD super fisheye lens and I put it on my VX2100 and when I turn the camera on you know you’re supposed to see the lens a little bit and it creates a circle and you look through that, mines doesn’t do that it just makes the entire thing just wide I’ve tried zooming in and out and nothing what do you think? I tried to be as descriptive as possible
You'll need a 58mm spacer ring, maybe one or two so you can see the vignetting (the inside of the lens barrel)!
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I have a panasonic hmc150, will the opteka 52mm work or do I need an adapter?
You'll need a 72mm to 52mm step down ring, then it'll work
@@BenJonesVideographer thaaanks! I live in Brazil, can you tell me where to buy this adapter? if you can open this link, tell me if this is the right one please
@@guilhermeroberto7762 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324287131214?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=9ucy4CxxQ3-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=dw0CbL5VQmS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY this one will do it
@@BenJonesVideographer hell yeah! Will I be able to shoot 4:3 in this setup? maybe getting this right in the editor
@@guilhermeroberto7762 you'll be very much able to! Get yourself a cracked version of Premiere or even the free version of Davinci Resolve and you'll be flying high
man that second generation blue vignette fringe is a bit of a bummer
You can always have a very smaller mask around the vignette and desaturate!
Any idea if kapkur are making more 52mm fisheyes?
€ 133,50 | Kapkur 0.3X 58mm mount fisheye camcorder lens
a.aliexpress.com/_msRZgTn
Idk I found this 58mm one
Hi ben ! I'm very involved by this kind of research, do you think we can talk together somewhere else than here on youtube ?
Thank you for what you do !
;)
Send me a DM on Instagram: @a_man_with_a_movie_camera
Could you go over some render settings for adobe premiere?
Absolutely!
@@BenJonesVideographer sweet🙏🏼
Yo Ben im really interested in this video. Do you have time for a quick chat in the coming weeks?
Sure thing, my instagram is @a_man_with_a_movie_camera
Does the lens hood come off on these lenses?
Aye it does, comes with a screwdriver to do it.
I’m super lucky to have one of the old opteka lenses, so no blue vig here. Watching comparison videos to the mk2 they look identical🤩
Especially on the DVX. The MK2 and Opteka are so damn close. Apart from the lens flare they're practically identical!
@@BenJonesVideographer 🙏🏼
Have you checked out the FS V1 fisheye?
Yes I have, and that's exactly the same as these
Anyone familiar with the veledge/vlogmagic 72mm 0.03X lens? I know it’s at least on Ali express
It's the same as the Opteka/Kapkur to my knowledge
@@BenJonesVideographer gotchu man, really tempted to cop one for 140€ for my hmc150 - but in total with shipping and all its going to go to over 200dollars - but I can’t find a fisheye cheaper ANYWHERE else ( I live in Norway)
We should also show sony the about all the crazy camera resellers, and try to get them to put the vx back into production! lol. They have all the designs and plans for that camera already. I wonder if it would cost them more to manufacture these days, or less? ha.
Hi Ben! Nice video. Can you recommend me a fisheye for Panasonic NV-GS400 please
www.amazon.co.uk/Opteka-Platinum-Fisheye-Digial-Camcorders/dp/B002CMYPNM
Or the Nikon FC9!
@@BenJonesVideographer Thank you!! Do I need an adapter to use the Opteka lens on my Panasonic NV-GS400 camera?
@@MrFerranGB nope, it should just screw on nicely
@@BenJonesVideographer okey!! Thank you!
Hi ben!
Hello ! I’m from France so I don’t know B&H so can I trust it to command my fisheye ? 130$ is a lot for me so I don’t want to loose my money 😅
Thx 🙏
You should be in safe hands! Kapkurs customer service were really good in my experience so you should be all peachy
@@BenJonesVideographer Yes I just received it without any problem 👍
@@enzo__dmr ayyyy!
@@enzo__dmr how did you buy one?
@@thechrisdo on B&H online store
i bought a deathlens fisheye sales fisheye and they say its supposed to have the same dimensons as a century mk2 .3x
Yeah the Opteka is a ripoff of the MK2
@@BenJonesVideographer is the deathlens fisheye just an opteka?
@@iaaannnnnnnn5964 yes
@@BenJonesVideographer fuck
I have a vx1000 too. My 58mm opteka doesn’t fit on it.which one do you use?
You need a 52mm
@@BenJonesVideographer alright. Kapkur right? Also do you know how to get the ring effect on the fisheye??? The full ring effect
@@Josuerobles11202 you'd want a 52mm spacer ring to get the full vignette
@@BenJonesVideographer thanks!
@@BenJonesVideographer from opteka? Or any brand because I have a 58mm opteka atm
Is there a 30.5 mm kapkur?
You might need a 42mm to 30.5mm step up ring to get a 42mm fisheye to fit
what would a century baby death mk1 look like on a hvx?
That might be a bit too much vignette. Is it a 43mm or something?
@@BenJonesVideographer 37 haha
@@edwinhassid.7337 yeah that'd be some proper mad vignetting
bad but you can try if you already have it
0:51 what camera?
Panasonic DVX100A I believe
@@BenJonesVideographerThat's what I was thinking, good question! Do you know if he's using a 72mm Opteka fisheye?
@@bvilledrummer14 Yeah for sure
The footage at the end, thats with the kapkur?
Kapkur/Opteka
@@BenJonesVideographer which is which? I bought the kapkur off aliexpress for like $70 and just tryna make sure its good whilst its on its way
@@dfbvgfdas I can't remember but they're the same lens with different badging
@@BenJonesVideographer OH. I missed the point of the video then my bad. big price difference
i wish i saw this before buying the death lens. oh well....
Great vid...but why did kapkur clone the mk2 and not the mk1, the world needs answers!
These are the real questions!!!!
@@BenJonesVideographer I've seen someone on IG take the front two elements out of the opteka .2x vortex fisheye and glue that together with a spacer ring to try and DIY an opteka mk1. So if those glass elements exist, and are presumably produced by kapkur, someone could potentially design the proper housing without glue and a kapkur/opteka/ Mk1 clone could be a viable product