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Sig Sauer P365 CO2 BB Gun : How To Avoid Double Feeding and BB Jams.
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2023
- Here is how the internal mechanical functions work on the CO2 P365. Please pay attention as this replica airgun does not function in the same manner a real P365 works.
I hope this helps clear up any confusion about inconsistencies, double feeding, jammed bbs and slide cycling issues.
If you have any questions feel free to comment.
Here is the link to my field strip video : • The "trick" to field s...
Thank you so much for posting this, it works. My P365 sat untouched for the whole summer cause I thought it was junk. After watching this video I tried it and wow... 13 consecutive shots without problems. Keep these great videos coming.
Sweet! Thanks for the comment, really appreciated! xD
@@RWMAirgunsmithingI literally bought a Glock 18c 6mm aluminum because I was concerned my p365 had to be retired
@@NewAni-002 sounds like you're starting a collection hehe ;)
It worked! I must have been half pulling the trigger before. Armed with this knowledge of how each BB feeds and now my gun works flawlessly! Thank you!
Nice xD glad to help out!
Thanks for the video, I'm waiting for my replica to arrive
Sig Sauer should pay you 👍
Damn! You too got that silver-wood version of the P226 X-FIVE! I've tried to get myself one for years. Got a few other versions of the X-FIVE - but not this specific one. I just love those KWC made BB Sigs.
It really is a great plinker, not only because of the adjustable sights, but for POI consistency also.
It is in the same category as the umarex glock17gen4 and the s&w m&p40. Almost perfect replica in aesthetic and function PLUS it plinks out to 45ft with consistent POI using iron sights.
Okay so basically, only pull the trigger if you intend to fire it right away, and make sure it’s one full solid motion and let it reset fully before firing again. Don’t pull halfway to get it ready and then pull the final half to fire. I wanted to buy this gun bad but the reviews scared me off. Maybe I’ll try it.
You can take up the slack and hit the wall of the "first stage" and hold it if you want, just need to remember that you committed a bb into the barrel once you get there. If you decide to not fire for whatever reason after that, then you will have a loose bb inside the mechanism and if you dont deal with it the next time you pick up the slack in the first stage you will load another bb and potentially create jamming conditions.
Yes. All BB guns do not work the same. My ASG CZ P-07 is also this action shooter type of a BB pistol. If you pull slow halfway to release the trigger forward again, then you also might have loaded and maybe even dropped out the barrel a BB (if been pointing downwards). Just pull quickly when want to shoot kinda deal. I still haven't gotten myself a P365 but I surely would want one because I for sure love all of my Sigs. This moving internal barrel type though not being of my favorite types. But it surely seals up places better.
Aye, the moving inner barrel is not a new concept and definitely not a deal breaker. Once you know how it works you can easily deal with it.
My brother has the HK MP5 and it also has a moving inner barrel and it kicks ass, it just isn't a perfect replica mechanically speaking.
It’s a training piece and guns jam so I guess it’s good? The trigger feeds the next bb so if you pull half back on fire leaves bb clip open pushing bbs into barrel. Full pull closes co2 cartridge.
I guess you can see it that way hehe, the biggest problem is the jamming is unpredictable. You can feed all the bbs into the barrel but it doesn't always create a jam.
@@RWMAirgunsmithing you shouldn’t be feeding anything down a barrel unless it’s a musket. I just got mine and blasted about 10 co2 cartridges only one jam bc I didn’t pull trigger all the way back trying to get the quickest fire rate Pulled slide it carried on. No real problems so far and think it’s a great training piece to learn how to tear down a simple working mechanism without jamming things down the barrel
@@wayne387 sorry I don't understand what you are talking about. Nobody is feeding anything down the barrel.
@@RWMAirgunsmithing lol
@@RWMAirgunsmithing it’s a great training piece enjoy
This type of guns are of type "sorry mate, I have to shoot you cause I already half pulled the trigger".
Lmao 😆
I get one shot then all the bbs release into the gun at once what should I do ???
Jeebus lol, sig really did a number on these guys! Do they all fall out the barrel or get stuck in the slide?
From what i see on mine the only thing keeping the bbs in the mag once it is loaded is the proximity to the barrel. When the trigger is released the barrel moves forward to let the next bb up but it still is not far enough to let bbs out.
The chamber end of the barrel should be about 1 bb away from your mag and there should be a metal hook thingy on the top part of the barrel that indexes into a notch on the mag when the trigger is pulled.
It might be a jammy magazine valve and it doesn't shut properly after firing... causing all the bbs to be pushed out one by one.
Hi, I have a p365 baby when the normal charge makes the first shot but then when I charge for the second time that according to what I've seen I don't have to charge it again they get like 2 or 3 bolines at the same time that could be the problem?
Hmm not sure I understand your comment properly.
The bb jams do not always happen, sometimes they will fire out or fall out. But if a bb gets stuck in the slide mechanism it can potentially be a big problem.
Awww that means I will have to completely release the trigger in-between shots.
Yeah, the moving barrel definitely adds a layer to rapid firing hehe xD
With mine, the mag jams (bbs stop moving up) with daisy power line bbs. The bbs that came as a sample worked flawlessly. I'm going to try daisy match grade.
Worth a try, tbh I haven'tmeasured the match grade... but of all the brands I have calipered, the steel umarex and the Hornady black diamond have the most consistent diameter. I would recommend you can try either, the umarex steel have a bigger diameter than the black diamonds.
Yeah, I really wanted to try the umarex, but I was having a hard time finding any. The daisy match grade are supposed to be larger and more consistent than standard. I am going to test them with calipers out of curiosity.
Cool lemme know how it goes! xD
for what my opinion’s worth, I’ve been running crosman black widows in mine and I haven’t had any ammo-related malfunctions. I have had a few issues where the gun won’t reset the internal hammer all the way, but I find that keeping the co2 cartridge/magazine warm and letting it gain some heat between magazines helps.
@@RWMAirgunsmithing the daisy match bbs actually seem to work great. They only jam once in a while instead of multiple times per magazine. I didn't get a chance to measure them, but they do seem bigger and smoother.
Hi! This worked at first just learning not to feather the trigger but now it still jams and fails to fire. I tried Umarex steel BBs to see if that would change anything but it needs to be racked every shot or the trigger won't pull and it gets jammed. I have two mags and it does this regardless of Co2 level. Any ideas would be appreciated! Its a cool gun when it works!
One more note: If I field strip and pull the slide off it will fire 3-4 rounds without getting stuck on the same CO2 charge it had before stripping it. I also blew everything out with an air compressor and oiled anything that moves inside to see if it would help but still no.
Does the slide cycle fully, partially, or not at all when you need to rack the slide? If you need to rack it each time it means the slide is not sliding back fully.
I currently have mine disassembled trying to fix the problem where the slide does not slide all the way forward.
When you're airgun fires during field strip is that with the magazine removed?
I've bought 2 of these the first one worked great for the first full mag after that it did not want to cycle whatsoever. I stripped in lube it and still the same. I purchased another mag,same thing. I then bought a SECOND ONE! thinking I just got a bad apple. Nope! Same thing the first one did. So now I have 2 p365's I can not use because they don't want to seem to cycle. I've been looking on UA-cam,Google,everywhere and can not find a fix for this! I'm kinda p'od at the situation because I'd really like to use them I love how they feel in my hand. IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO FIX THIS CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE ME SOME POINTERS? THANKS! Edit: also when my slide sticks back when I rack it on both .
I will look into and try and replicate the problem, I dont think you are alone with this issue.
Edit : hey btw, when you say doesn't cycle do you mean it fires but slide doesn't move? Or the slide blows back but stays stuck every time?
Hey have you watched my field srip and hammer reset videos?
@RWM Airgunsmithing The slide doesn't blow back Even with fresh co2 in it.
That 45/1911 blowback you showed is insane bro .. which brand and model is it .. nice content by the way very helpful thumbs up.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! xD
Its a Sig p226 xFive, sa/da. Dont think they make em anymore, kwc (i think) makes a "noname" all black same model, not sure if that one is discontinued also.
Nice thank u
Thank you! I'll have to try working on technique to avoid hating this gun! 😆
Proper technique and understanding your airgun go a long way to have fun plinking. Not only does it translate to real firearm skills but you will get max performance out of your airgun.
I am always a little sad inside when an airgun reviewer says "oh well it's a bb gun, dont expect much" ... truth is most of these are accurate out to 45ft, including this guy.
Hey bro quick question, I’m new to this air rifle thing. I just got a crosman dpms sbr and want to remove the angled foregrip, but I can’t seem to find a button or something to remove it. Thanks
You need to completely remove the screw going through it, then it can slide off the rails towards the front.
@@RWMAirgunsmithing gotcha thanks man
Big thanks! Now I do understand what was wrong with myself. I am wondering about accuracy, it looks like my one spread everything all around compare to Swiss Arms 1911 Tactical.
Hehe, glad to help out. When it's working properly this one is a great plinker. I can plink 4inch plates at 45ft no problem with barely a combat hold on sights.
Keep in mind, the short sight radius and barrel mechanism on the trigger mean proper shooting fundamentals are extremely important even though it is "just an airgun". If anything this guy is a good trainer xD.
Now i understand. This gun is only double action. It has no hammer, the bb catcher presses the valve. Thanks for the info.
Yeah, they really bent over backwards to get a replica into this small package xD
Hey I have tried pulling the trigger all the way and watched a few videos and all of them have not mentioned what bbs thay use or what size and I think that is my problem. If anyone knows it would be greatly appreciated.
4.5mm steel bbs! It is possible some brands like the 4.5mm ASG plastic blasters will not fit.
I use almost exclusively the umarex steel bbs in all my airguns.
@@RWMAirgunsmithing Thank you for the help I will try umarex.
than you! very helpful.
Thanks for the comments xD glad I could help out!
I’ve noticed it starts double-feeding after about 50 shots. I’m using cheap co2 tanks and it’s a shame it doesn’t use them to their full extent.
I’m gonna try and use higher quality tanks and see is that makes a difference.
Hmm, 50 shots per co2 is ballpark average for most magazines. Nothing too alarming there, rate of fire will affect this.
But what happens after 50shots? You fire, the slide seems to cycle but your second trigger press nothing happens so you rack the slide manually and then end up with 2bbs on the next shot?
You made me want to buy this beauty again. Thaks alot. I love sigs.
It has its issues, but it is a fun plinker when it works fine xD. I have an upcoming video for the slide jamming, not an easy fix but it will complete the major issues fixes series for this model.
Thanks for watching!
Ok Im looking forward for your video, thanks alot.@@RWMAirgunsmithing
On my pistol i have a problem with the co2 . It seems to throw almost half of the tank when i pull the trigger.
Is the rear sight removable so i can add a micro red dot
Negative, its molded in, I have no issues with the POI on mine.
@@RWMAirgunsmithing ahh i see thanks👍🏻
This is a great video！
Where did you get the p226 from? Ive never heard anything about ut
It's an older model, discontinued I think. It was one of the first ones I bought searching for a "perfect" replica hehe. Its listed as an x-five silver w/wood grips. I do believe there is a full black model as well, probably also discontinued.
I have a few 4.5 versions, was wondering if you would know if the 6mm version is a little better as far as build and fps? I saw it, and it is heavier! One more ? Is there a aftermarket threaded barrel you can recommend for the 6mm version? I can find anything, I have been using lamp thread adapters. They last about a week.
Hmm as far as I can tell the airsoft version also works off co2. The build will be the same but fps might change because of the 6mm plastic BB's. At this point it depends wether you prefer steel BB or airsoft ballistics.
Airsoft shops will sell muzzle thread adapters but I can't really say how much tinkering it would take seeing as the p365 has no built in threads.
Thx for this video. I wanted buy this one, but now, when I see this bb loading system, I not want.
Totally understand hehe. It's not that hard to get used to but I definitely prefer non moving barrels.
My slide keeps getting jammed I think the hammer isn't resting all the way and it's touching the slide
Yeah, I'm getting that problem also now, I have it all disassembled and working on a video atm.
On mine the hammer seems to be canted, it might not be the easiest fix I'm afraid. :/
Ok, so what you're saying is once you engage the trigger, be ready to pull all the way and fire off a shot otherwise you'll have problems. My other BB/pellet pistols do not function this way. But this sounds easy enough if I'm understanding you right. You sound like Oscar De La Hoya btw!
lol, thanks? xD
yeah, there aren't many models out there with reciprocating barrels, I put this one in the "half" replica category. The full replicas are much more fun hehe
@@RWMAirgunsmithing I got one of these on the way. I also just got the small umarex beretta 84fs. It has feeding issues like this. My bigger beretta m92a1 is like a real pistol that shoots bb's no extra bb feeding or nothing like that. Same with my Glock 17 G4, S&W M&P 40, Sig Emperor scorpion 1911, Springfield armory 1911 mill spec, Barra 1911, HK USP, and Springfield Armory XDM full and compact. These are all badass BB plinkers.
@@BostonWhoFan515 noice! I might have to risk ordering across the border for the XDM, it's always sold out here in Canada. The CZs from ASG and the sig x5 are great replicas too and have adjustable sights, the baba yaga is a nice replica but bad plinker (just to complete your list!)
@@RWMAirgunsmithing dudeeee! The CZ shadow 1&2 do look sick! It's pricey though. Like $230 here in the States. They must have more than adjustable sights going on for that price.
@@BostonWhoFan515 they are full metal, they feel great to shoot too.
can you use pellets on the p365?
No... pellets will not fit in the mag.
My P365 fires but won’t cycle anyone have similar problems
If the slide blows back but stays hung up on the way back it means the hammer assembly has shifted or worn crooked (still working on this fix) and the slide "snags" on it.
Lemme know if this sounds familiar... or not at all.. lol
There is no firing pin on a bb co2 pistol because bb's don't have gun powder in them
Lol, ok, what do you want me to call it.. "the magazine valve actuating pin"? Gimme a break xD
There usually is no hammer in a striker fired pistol either, yet here we are.
Please tell me you don't actually "carry" this for "self defense"...
Hehe, not sure what gave you that idea xD Airgun youtubers talking about self-defense is my pet peeve and I make a point to never get into that subject. (Plus I'm in Canada, so if anything were to happen I would face criminal charges and lose my actual firearms license xD)
I think I'm stupider from listening to you tell me not how to fix it. Nice tip but not wat I wanted.
No, you were already that way when you didn't read the title or description then expected something that was not advertised xD.
There is no universal fix for jammed bbs, they can wind up anywhere inside the mechanism. Gotta unjam it and hope the parts are not damaged.