When it comes to Christmas, I have a love/hate relationship with it. The problem is Christmas always magnifies problems you have. A problem say in April is just a problem, but when it happens at Christmas it is magnified a million times worse, because we are sold the lie that we are all supposed to be happy over Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and Boxing Day. Horrible time for anyone with mental health issues.
I’m so glad I’m not the only person who had an instant, visceral reaction to seeing David Nelson on screen! I was so immediately angry when he appeared, which sort of surprised me - but then I also loved the way Nick tries to get him to engage with the rest of the family, because of course Nick would. And so lovely to see Oliver on screen too - who is Tori & Charlie’s little brother in the comics. Another great episode - the way it depicted gender dysphoria was handled so sensitively and cleverly - and speaking as someone who hates Christmas because of all the forced bonhomie and family pressures of the day, it was good to see a bad Christmas depiction for once. Loved your reaction as always too and looking forward to rewatching the remainder of the season with you!
16:26 yeah Christmas is a struggle, lucky he isn't there this Christmas For context who I like who saw last Christmas, that see on 29th, I look at him to keep track so avoid being near him to hope my heart doesn't fall for him, before judge not family but he is related to my foster family, glad they didn't adopt me though and I met them and celebrate meet them on the 11/09 ... Yeah what a day to meet them
I can relate to Charlie, specially family wise, my late nan was my everything, mum was not in the picture from the age of 4months my nan took over, dad pretty much living he's best bachelor life, my uncles took on the role of parents although they were away 9 months out of the year, not a bad family, just a bit strange, my sister and I were very close each others best friends only when we grew up we understood how far from normal we were and slight unconventional, not a lot of support or praise so I get the cold comment you made. Some people specially family never help they only make matters worse. Take this from someone who's spent a couple Christmas's New Year's alone, actually last year I left my families house on the 25th!
I remember Alice saying in a Q and A that David actually does become more easy to deal with. He accepts Nick and Charlie's relationship, and that icy feeling he has to Charlie slowly thaws she said. Which is good to know.
"Why are we talking about this at Christmas?" Old people really can't help themselves. It's awful.
Seriously as one who turns 77 tomorrow, i am offended. LOL.
That is so true
When it comes to Christmas, I have a love/hate relationship with it. The problem is Christmas always magnifies problems you have. A problem say in April is just a problem, but when it happens at Christmas it is magnified a million times worse, because we are sold the lie that we are all supposed to be happy over Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and Boxing Day. Horrible time for anyone with mental health issues.
*dances vibing to the music* "I needed this after everything this show is doing to me" ... a literal mood! 👌😂
They don’t mention it on the show, but in the book, the New Year’s party is at Harry’s house. His family’s rich af
Loving your reactions.
I’m so glad I’m not the only person who had an instant, visceral reaction to seeing David Nelson on screen! I was so immediately angry when he appeared, which sort of surprised me - but then I also loved the way Nick tries to get him to engage with the rest of the family, because of course Nick would.
And so lovely to see Oliver on screen too - who is Tori & Charlie’s little brother in the comics.
Another great episode - the way it depicted gender dysphoria was handled so sensitively and cleverly - and speaking as someone who hates Christmas because of all the forced bonhomie and family pressures of the day, it was good to see a bad Christmas depiction for once. Loved your reaction as always too and looking forward to rewatching the remainder of the season with you!
The Christmas episode comes from the novella "This Winter"
16:26 yeah Christmas is a struggle, lucky he isn't there this Christmas
For context who I like who saw last Christmas, that see on 29th, I look at him to keep track so avoid being near him to hope my heart doesn't fall for him, before judge not family but he is related to my foster family, glad they didn't adopt me though and I met them and celebrate meet them on the 11/09 ... Yeah what a day to meet them
I can relate to Charlie, specially family wise, my late nan was my everything, mum was not in the picture from the age of 4months my nan took over, dad pretty much living he's best bachelor life, my uncles took on the role of parents although they were away 9 months out of the year, not a bad family, just a bit strange, my sister and I were very close each others best friends only when we grew up we understood how far from normal we were and slight unconventional, not a lot of support or praise so I get the cold comment you made. Some people specially family never help they only make matters worse. Take this from someone who's spent a couple Christmas's New Year's alone, actually last year I left my families house on the 25th!
Thinks for pointing out at Christmas at very start, when I watched it I didn't click that they saying negative stuff at Christmas when I watched it
Thank you, Luke! 💞
Oldies? We're not all bad!
Charlie has a nicer sibling than Nick at least. And a dad that's there. Pros and cons I guess.
I remember Alice saying in a Q and A that David actually does become more easy to deal with. He accepts Nick and Charlie's relationship, and that icy feeling he has to Charlie slowly thaws she said. Which is good to know.
@@johnking5174 it's good he'll *eventually* come around.
@@KnightRaymund Yes, that is what I actually hope for. I always look for redemption in characters.