Thank You for accentuating that it's comfortable for those of us with small hands. The slide looks easy to grip as well, also a benefit for smaller hands to smoothly handle. I appreciate your review, Bob!
Hello, I just found your channel and this video by chasing a PDP F rabbit hole of reviews. LOL I just ordered a 4” F a few days ago. I have been firing a few different hand guns that are similar as well as a 3.5 F and I think I will really like this model. I also like the Xcarry P320 but I’m just not sure about it. Definitely looking forward to some more reviews. Subscribed too. Thanks.
Thanks for subscribing! Good luck with your new PDP! I really like this series of guns. I actually have three different PDP’s from full size to compact. Let me know how you like it when it comes in!
I've had my PDP-F 3.5 for almost a year, and it has fast become my favorite gun. Fits my hand perfectly, super accurate, low recoil, great trigger, and fantastic fit and finish. The only downside for me is that it's too chunky and heavy to use as my EDC, and isn't comfortable to wear IWB. Great range and home gun.
I’m glad you like it! I really like mine and I carried it in the colder weather here in the northeast because it concealed easily under a hoodie or a coat. Now that it is warming up? I’ll carry something a little slimmer and lighter for summer. So now it is my nightstand gun.
I shared this on Twitter. Thank you for doing a review on this. I carry a PPK as it's very small and easy to conceal. I did not know they had this line though.
Had the same problem with my PDP-F as well. 4 Failures out of a two hundred round range trip. All using LAX Ammo 9mm 124 grain (factory new). Over 1500 rounds later and those are the only failures I've had with this firearm. I'm going to chalk it up to the ammo being the problem.
@@RogueSarge Don't want to tell you what to do, as your experiences may wind up different than mine, but I can tell you that since posting my last comment, I took out the same pistol, with more LAX Ammo 9mm (115 grain this time) and wound up with 33 failure to fires out of 100 rounds . To be fair, I have dry fired this pistol a shit ton, but always with a snap cap present. The only failures I've had with this gun have been with LAX brand ammo.
Ever since Hell froze solid and the Bruen decision dragged NJ kicking and clawing into a world of CCW I have had to re-evaluate my choice in handguns.Used to be only had to consider the bed-side hog-leg for personal defense. We completely missed out on the micro-compact revolution. Smith’s Shield. Sig’s 365 et al Glocks 43 and 48 kinda slipped by my conscienceless. So now I’m playing catch up. A knee-jerk reaction landed a Shadow Systems CR920 in the safe. Great gun - what a G43 should be from the hop. Easy to conceal but is not the kinda gun you want to train with. Recoil fatigue is a new concept for me so not before too long I started looking for alternates, The 3.5” PDP-F has been great. Everything you could want in a duty pistol and easily concealed. and the reduced trigger LOP and grip circumference has been a huge help in the effort to change my technique to a combat trigger pull. I dont have small hands at all, the F’s geometry makes it easy to put the trigger behind the second knuckle for a gross motor trigger pull. when that adrenaline dump hits and the cortisol over rides any target shooting technique, this combat pull gets me repeatable hits in the A zone. sorry for the novel! lol. but I don’t see this aspect of the F’s geometry discussed much - thought I’s drop my 2¢. cheers
I have the full size 5 inch PDP and the F-Series with 3.5 barrel. Full size stays at home. F-Series goes with me, tucked under my shirt in a Clinger sticky type holster. I have a Remora Tucked model ordered with their standard clip + an Ulti Clip. F- Series is nearly a half inch thicker than a Hellcat Pro but Walther's Ambi Controls are ideal for my wrecked hands, especially shooting 'wrong handed.' 🙃
I have had a F Series 4 inch for about a year. I like the pistol a good bit, but when shooting it I get a sting on my trigger finger. Its mostly on the bottom half of my finger pad. Not sure what would cause this. I have shot a good number of other pistols, and revolvers, but have never had the trigger sting my finger pad like this pistol does. Just wonder if anyone else has noticed this? I called Walther. They said they have never really had that complaint Their only answer was to wear gloves. I did install a DPM Technologies guide rod that is supposed to reduce recoil, I didn't really notice any difference with the DPM guide rod installed.
I haven’t had that problem with my Walther. Have you tweaked your grip a little bit? Try a different finger position? When I shoot my Glocks, my trigger finger rubs the bottom of the trigger guard when I fully pull the trigger. It sucks having small hands.
@@RogueSarge I tried moving my finger a little higher, but that didn't seem to help. As I said I never experienced this with any other 9mm or pistol for that matter. I may try a different trigger. Maybe one that is flatter than the curved stock trigger. Thanks
@@RogueSarge I'm pretty sure I'm going to try an after market trigger. thought about the Dynamic Performance trigger from Walther, but it advertises a lighter trigger pull than I want for a carry gun. I'm leaning toward the trigger from Overwatch Precision. I'll let you know. Thanks for replying.
Shot my Federal hydra shok 9mm 124gr jhp bullets through this sexy beast today. 200 rounds. Solid pistol. Solid cartridges. VERY compatible together. My new CC
I had the opportunity to shoot this a while back at a training day. I also was able to shoot an FN509 MRD I liked both, was actually leaning toward the PDP because the trigger was so nice. Probably a 50/50 split on guy’s picking PDP over FN, but for sure was better than the Glocks. Thank you for review, I just need to save some more money.
Yes it can. I don’t carry appendix, but I have a friend that carries this appendix and he has absolutely no issues. I will have to ask what his holster setup is. I think he uses a rig from Greyman Solutions.
How would you compare the control and kick of the PDP F compared to the 43x? My EDC is also a 43x and was looking to change to something like a G19 for better control. My accuracy w/43x is horrible and trying to get back to the sight pic is tough after each shot.
I noticed toward the end of the video you said that was the second “light primer strike”. Those primer strikes didn’t look light to me at all. They looked like good strikes on the primer from the striker. I think the problem is the ammo. Or more accurately, poorly QC’ed primers from the manufacturer.
Yeah when I looked at them again after shooting, I thought it was just bad ammo. I have fired a few other brands through it since with no issues at all. Thanks for watching!
I ordered my PDP F for the longest and it is finally getting released. I know that the compatible Streamlight for that is the 7A. I was wondering if the one of the 7sub will fit that particularly the 1913 or the GL variant. I just ordered the Micro Wing from Antimatter Inds. and I'd like to use it for my PDP F. 😊 I hope you can help me out. 🙂 Thanks in advance. 👍
Sarge, I was at the range last week trying a Walther pdp range gun and seven out of a box didn’t fire. Looks to be the same problem you demonstrated. Perhaps Walther has a bigger problem?
I also wanted to add there’s a lot of great reviews out there on the F-series. I had my sights set on this gun - looking to pull the trigger - pun intended, but really want to hear something official before doing so. Do you know if Walther has acknowledged a problem yet? Thanks.
I’m going to try a few different ammo brands this weekend to see if it still is a problem. I will post the results as soon as I’m done. Overall though, I do love this pistol.
Also in RI and my 3.5 F just landed! D&L suggested throwing some 124 grain down it to run it new. Also it seems a little dry/squeaky being new (vs the glock 19) did you lube before shooting? How did it run at the range and what ammo did you choose? Thx again!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 $50/yr here at Micky Stephens range for Sundays only. I might have to check that out
I always clean and line any new firearm before I shoot it. I did use 124 and 115 grain when I first took it to the range. I used Federal Premium and Belom ammo. And it range with absolutely no issues!
Love your input, what are your thoughts about the felt recoil. I'm interested in this gun, but I keep hearing that it's uncomfortably snappy. You seem to control it very well!
I would highly recommend this pistol. I have one in the 4 inch version. As far as recoil goes, I also recommend Underwood defense 68 grain ammunition for carry. This ammo has extremely low recoil in my opinion, but the best ballistics I’ve seen yet on self-defense.
I have my name put in for a local outdoor range but there is a waiting list to join that club. Hopefully soon. So I’m working with what’s available right now. Thanks for watching the video!
Thank you! I really don’t notice the difference in recoil at all. I have shot the 4 inch and do not notice it at all. The angle and shape of the grip make recoil very manageable in this size platform, and it’s quickly becoming my favorite pistol in my collection.
I have the 4" and there is a snappy recoil but I changed my grip and locked on to it and the recoil is nothing that cant be mitigated. I would say its about the same as my S&W 2.0 4" compact. I have a Holosun 507 gr on it and absolutely hammer a target at 25 yds. I have shot 50 with it and rang 6" steel. Out of the box this is one of the best guns I have ever shot. I will never get rid of it. I'm thinking of buying the 3.5 which is on sale right now.
Put the holosun SCS on that gun. You dont need a plate and the serrations on the sight matches the slide. Solar charging and you never need a batt. And its low enough to aquire your standard height sights.
Thanks for subscribing! I have one and I love it! Such a smooth shooter. I also have the version with a compact frame but with a five inch barrel. Thing is crazy accurate!
I had a Glock 17 MOS and the Glock 45 MOS on my wish list and I’m thinking that the Walther PDP would be better than the Glock 45 and the Springfield Echelon will substitute the 17!!!! All because the shooting angle and ergos!
Glocks are great pistols and the aftermarket parts market for them is insane. I have a few Glocks in my collection and I really like them. But as soon as I shot the PDP series, I was hooked! Best trigger on a striker fired pistol I have ever shot! And the PDP takes the same sights as the Glock, so if you ever want to replace the sights, any Glock sight will fit the pistol.
Originally that’s who it was marketed for (and I think that was a mistake on Walthers part) but it’s really taken off for everyone! I like it because it fits my hands perfectly.
Thank You for accentuating that it's comfortable for those of us with small hands. The slide looks easy to grip as well, also a benefit for smaller hands to smoothly handle. I appreciate your review, Bob!
Thanks brother!
Hello, I just found your channel and this video by chasing a PDP F rabbit hole of reviews. LOL I just ordered a 4” F a few days ago. I have been firing a few different hand guns that are similar as well as a 3.5 F and I think I will really like this model. I also like the Xcarry P320 but I’m just not sure about it. Definitely looking forward to some more reviews. Subscribed too. Thanks.
Thanks for subscribing! Good luck with your new PDP! I really like this series of guns. I actually have three different PDP’s from full size to compact. Let me know how you like it when it comes in!
I've had my PDP-F 3.5 for almost a year, and it has fast become my favorite gun. Fits my hand perfectly, super accurate, low recoil, great trigger, and fantastic fit and finish. The only downside for me is that it's too chunky and heavy to use as my EDC, and isn't comfortable to wear IWB. Great range and home gun.
I’m glad you like it! I really like mine and I carried it in the colder weather here in the northeast because it concealed easily under a hoodie or a coat. Now that it is warming up? I’ll carry something a little slimmer and lighter for summer. So now it is my nightstand gun.
I shared this on Twitter. Thank you for doing a review on this. I carry a PPK as it's very small and easy to conceal. I did not know they had this line though.
You’re welcome and thanks for sharing!
Had the same problem with my PDP-F as well. 4 Failures out of a two hundred round range trip. All using LAX Ammo 9mm 124 grain (factory new). Over 1500 rounds later and those are the only failures I've had with this firearm. I'm going to chalk it up to the ammo being the problem.
I agree. I thinks it’s just hard primers. I shot 100 rounds of Federal Premium 115 grain the other day and had no issues at all.
I'VE had a problem with LAX 40's.
I’m haven’t shot that brand of ammo yet. Should I avoid it?
@@RogueSarge Don't want to tell you what to do, as your experiences may wind up different than mine, but I can tell you that since posting my last comment, I took out the same pistol, with more LAX Ammo 9mm (115 grain this time) and wound up with 33 failure to fires out of 100 rounds . To be fair, I have dry fired this pistol a shit ton, but always with a snap cap present. The only failures I've had with this gun have been with LAX brand ammo.
@@RogueSarge I might have had a bad bunch. It is related to Freedom Munitions, I think, and I've had off and on success with them.
The regular PDP compact can interchange slides with the PPQ M1, PPQ M2, and the P99 Final Edition too. The F series cant do it unfortunately.
I know. I don’t have a problem with that though. I really like this pistol.
Ever since Hell froze solid and the Bruen decision dragged NJ kicking and clawing into a world of CCW I have had to re-evaluate my choice in handguns.Used to be only had to consider the bed-side hog-leg for personal defense. We completely missed out on the micro-compact revolution. Smith’s Shield. Sig’s 365 et al Glocks 43 and 48 kinda slipped by my conscienceless. So now I’m playing catch up. A knee-jerk reaction landed a Shadow Systems CR920 in the safe. Great gun - what a G43 should be from the hop. Easy to conceal but is not the kinda gun you want to train with. Recoil fatigue is a new concept for me so not before too long I started looking for alternates, The 3.5” PDP-F has been great. Everything you could want in a duty pistol and easily concealed. and the reduced trigger LOP and grip circumference has been a huge help in the effort to change my technique to a combat trigger pull. I dont have small hands at all, the F’s geometry makes it easy to put the trigger behind the second knuckle for a gross motor trigger pull. when that adrenaline dump hits and the cortisol over rides any target shooting technique, this combat pull gets me repeatable hits in the A zone. sorry for the novel! lol. but I don’t see this aspect of the F’s geometry discussed much - thought I’s drop my 2¢. cheers
I have the full size 5 inch PDP and the F-Series with 3.5 barrel. Full size stays at home. F-Series goes with me, tucked under my shirt in a Clinger sticky type holster. I have a Remora Tucked model ordered with their standard clip + an Ulti Clip. F- Series is nearly a half inch thicker than a Hellcat Pro but Walther's Ambi Controls are ideal for my wrecked hands, especially shooting 'wrong handed.' 🙃
I’m still trying to decide what holster to get. Gotta wait until I install my ACRO-P2.
I have had a F Series 4 inch for about a year. I like the pistol a good bit, but when shooting it I get a sting on my trigger finger. Its mostly on the bottom half of my finger pad. Not sure what would cause this. I have shot a good number of other pistols, and revolvers, but have never had the trigger sting my finger pad like this pistol does. Just wonder if anyone else has noticed this? I called Walther. They said they have never really had that complaint Their only answer was to wear gloves. I did install a DPM Technologies guide rod that is supposed to reduce recoil, I didn't really notice any difference with the DPM guide rod installed.
I haven’t had that problem with my Walther. Have you tweaked your grip a little bit? Try a different finger position? When I shoot my Glocks, my trigger finger rubs the bottom of the trigger guard when I fully pull the trigger. It sucks having small hands.
@@RogueSarge I tried moving my finger a little higher, but that didn't seem to help. As I said I never experienced this with any other 9mm or pistol for that matter. I may try a different trigger. Maybe one that is flatter than the curved stock trigger. Thanks
@5777alan I was just going to say maybe try a flat trigger! Let me know if you swap it out!
@@RogueSarge I'm pretty sure I'm going to try an after market trigger. thought about the Dynamic Performance trigger from Walther, but it advertises a lighter trigger pull than I want for a carry gun. I'm leaning toward the trigger from Overwatch Precision. I'll let you know. Thanks for replying.
@5777alan You’re welcome and good luck!
Just picked one up from buds and cant wait to get it!!!
Outstanding!
underrated channel
Thank you.
Shot my Federal hydra shok 9mm 124gr jhp bullets through this sexy beast today. 200 rounds. Solid pistol. Solid cartridges. VERY compatible together. My new CC
Outstanding!
I had the opportunity to shoot this a while back at a training day. I also was able to shoot an FN509 MRD I liked both, was actually leaning toward the PDP because the trigger was so nice. Probably a 50/50 split on guy’s picking PDP over FN, but for sure was better than the Glocks. Thank you for review, I just need to save some more money.
You’re welcome and thank you!
Can this conceal carry in appendix comfortable?
Yes it can. I don’t carry appendix, but I have a friend that carries this appendix and he has absolutely no issues. I will have to ask what his holster setup is. I think he uses a rig from Greyman Solutions.
Ok ,thanks alot really appreciate your help.
@realyouth5273 you’re welcome and thanks for watching!
How would you compare the control and kick of the PDP F compared to the 43x? My EDC is also a 43x and was looking to change to something like a G19 for better control. My accuracy w/43x is horrible and trying to get back to the sight pic is tough after each shot.
I have a 43X as well, and the recoil in the PDP-F is much more manageable. And for such a short barrel, it’s a very accurate pistol.
@@RogueSarge sounds good. I will go rent one next week and compare.
@@racingdc9 let us know because I'm in the same situation.
I noticed toward the end of the video you said that was the second “light primer strike”. Those primer strikes didn’t look light to me at all. They looked like good strikes on the primer from the striker. I think the problem is the ammo. Or more accurately, poorly QC’ed primers from the manufacturer.
Yeah when I looked at them again after shooting, I thought it was just bad ammo. I have fired a few other brands through it since with no issues at all. Thanks for watching!
I ordered my PDP F for the longest and it is finally getting released. I know that the compatible Streamlight for that is the 7A. I was wondering if the one of the 7sub will fit that particularly the 1913 or the GL variant. I just ordered the Micro Wing from Antimatter Inds. and I'd like to use it for my PDP F. 😊 I hope you can help me out. 🙂 Thanks in advance. 👍
I’m still trying to figure out what light I’m going to put in mine, but as soon as I decide on one, I will let you know!
@@RogueSarge , thanks. I would appreciate it. 😊👍
7a seems to fit best or Olight baldr S. If you have $$$ Surefire xsc but never actually seen one mounted. Seems to be the smallest tho.
My first Walter I got it a week ago. I happen to like it. When I purchased it I had no idea what the F meant to late now
Good luck with your new pistol!
Stands for “fighting”. Fixed it for you!
@chevtow thanks!
Sarge, I was at the range last week trying a Walther pdp range gun and seven out of a box didn’t fire. Looks to be the same problem you demonstrated. Perhaps Walther has a bigger problem?
I also wanted to add there’s a lot of great reviews out there on the F-series. I had my sights set on this gun - looking to pull the trigger - pun intended, but really want to hear something official before doing so. Do you know if Walther has acknowledged a problem yet? Thanks.
I’m going to try a few different ammo brands this weekend to see if it still is a problem. I will post the results as soon as I’m done. Overall though, I do love this pistol.
Also in RI and my 3.5 F just landed! D&L suggested throwing some 124 grain down it to run it new. Also it seems a little dry/squeaky being new (vs the glock 19) did you lube before shooting? How did it run at the range and what ammo did you choose? Thx again!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 $50/yr here at Micky Stephens range for Sundays only. I might have to check that out
I always clean and line any new firearm before I shoot it. I did use 124 and 115 grain when I first took it to the range. I used Federal Premium and Belom ammo. And it range with absolutely no issues!
Looks quite controllable even with short barrel.
It is very controllable.
Love your input, what are your thoughts about the felt recoil. I'm interested in this gun, but I keep hearing that it's uncomfortably snappy. You seem to control it very well!
I was shooting 115 grain hardball through it and had no issues with recoil.
I would highly recommend this pistol. I have one in the 4 inch version. As far as recoil goes, I also recommend Underwood defense 68 grain ammunition for carry. This ammo has extremely low recoil in my opinion, but the best ballistics I’ve seen yet on self-defense.
I can’t say anything about the “F”, I have the regular 4” & 5”. I love them both!
@priest0701 I also have the full size 9 and I have the 5” with compact frame. Love the PDP series!
@@RogueSarge Outstanding!
I would recommend using a out door range. Great material though
I have my name put in for a local outdoor range but there is a waiting list to join that club. Hopefully soon. So I’m working with what’s available right now. Thanks for watching the video!
I understand. Keep up the good work!!!!
@ralphmcdaniel7751 thank you!
Great pistol
I heard the 3.5’ is more snappier than the 4’. Is this true? Does a .5’ really make a difference in recoil? Great review!
Thank you! I really don’t notice the difference in recoil at all. I have shot the 4 inch and do not notice it at all. The angle and shape of the grip make recoil very manageable in this size platform, and it’s quickly becoming my favorite pistol in my collection.
I have the 4" and there is a snappy recoil but I changed my grip and locked on to it and the recoil is nothing that cant be mitigated. I would say its about the same as my S&W 2.0 4" compact. I have a Holosun 507 gr on it and absolutely hammer a target at 25 yds. I have shot 50 with it and rang 6" steel. Out of the box this is one of the best guns I have ever shot. I will never get rid of it. I'm thinking of buying the 3.5 which is on sale right now.
@mlone7 I have three different variations of the PDP series. Maybe I should make a video about all three of them.
Put the holosun SCS on that gun. You dont need a plate and the serrations on the sight matches the slide. Solar charging and you never need a batt. And its low enough to aquire your standard height sights.
I put an Aimpoint ACRO P2 on it. I’m not a fan of the Chinese made Holosun stuff.
@@RogueSargewhy? Asian are smarter and make better product than America. Sorry dude. Holosun never fail.
Thanks
Just subbed to tour channel…I also need a PDP 4”, full size grip🇵🇷🤚🏻
Thanks for subscribing! I have one and I love it! Such a smooth shooter. I also have the version with a compact frame but with a five inch barrel. Thing is crazy accurate!
How’s she running..? I’m gonna pick one up soon! RI too brother👍
She runs like a sewing machine! Has fed everything I put into it with no issues at all!
I had a Glock 17 MOS and the Glock 45 MOS on my wish list and I’m thinking that the Walther PDP would be better than the Glock 45 and the Springfield Echelon will substitute the 17!!!!
All because the shooting angle and ergos!
Glocks are great pistols and the aftermarket parts market for them is insane. I have a few Glocks in my collection and I really like them. But as soon as I shot the PDP series, I was hooked! Best trigger on a striker fired pistol I have ever shot! And the PDP takes the same sights as the Glock, so if you ever want to replace the sights, any Glock sight will fit the pistol.
wish some one would measure difference
Difference for what? Maybe I can cover it in a future video .
SUPER....
The SheDP
(F) - That's for Females , that's who it's for ?!
Originally that’s who it was marketed for (and I think that was a mistake on Walthers part) but it’s really taken off for everyone! I like it because it fits my hands perfectly.
@@RogueSarge
Ok - T.Y. !
@TexasDanny. You’re welcome and thanks for watching!