We Drove MX-5s From 100 HP to 400 HORSEPOWER
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2023
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I love Will and Callum giggling like school girls for the turbo fluttering
To show that we never outgrew our F&F and Need for Speed Underground phase
And people wonder why enthusiasts aren't into EVs.
the tubro was too
I like 9:59 hehehe
Flutter is the turbo weeping.
Tonight on OVERDRIVE,
Will drives a Mazda.
Callum drives a Mazda.
And Scott... drives a Mazda.
Where's the neeeew Dacia Sandero?
I can hear clarkson in my head when I read that
Tonoight on bottom gear
*Scott breaks a Mazda
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Trying to drive a drift car and not have it slide is definitely one of the funniest things I've seen. Dang thing only wanted to go sideways
Damn, Scott seems to have as much fun in any mx5 as any supercar 😅
To be fair they pointed out that even Christian Von Koenigsegg loves his Miata
He's not the only one 😄 Slow car fast and all that, I'll take an MX-5 over a Lamborghini every single time, at least in terms of pure driving enjoyment.
He's not the only one, a good friend of mine is an instructor for the supercar experience drives as well as working at an exotic car dealer and he races and loves Miatas
Supercars are that high maintenance hot chick you want to stick it to just to know what it’s like, but the Miata is marriage material.
@@LateNightCableI like that! i really really liked that analogy.
Having a mostly stock NA, and always thinking "awe man how are these other miatas so much more powerful and crazy", it makes me feel better knowing both of those last cars have well over 30k invested in them haha. Awesome video!
I understand you, but not gonna lie if Id have it, I'd spend it
@whyme8848 oh no doubt if I had that much to spend on it I would in a heartbeat haha absolutely
@@Suileron btw we have the same name lol
Not to worry, 30k isn't needed for a little bit extra out of the mx5. Ideally supercharger and fitting would be the best and it would only set you back 6k ish.
Failing that, ebay turbo and fitting and a map would set you back about 3/4 and get you to 250ish bhp
im gnna be the lil devil on ur shoulder and tell u to be like me, swap it.
idk why but the fact that Koenigsegg has one of the cleanest Miatas I've seen feels like such a flex
I really like the 200hp one! It's got the extra power and that awesome supercharger whine, but also manages to look like you might actually want to drive it on the road. I also prefer the mostly stock appearance it has, but that's purely subjective.
Great video! Really shows the fun you get out of these. I had no interest in MX-5s until around 3 years ago when my subscribers chose it as my next project car... Now I can't find another car that puts as big a smile on my face (particularly after supercharging it like the one in this vid!)
Fancy seeing you here JB 😅
Loved the handling on my RX-8, until a drunk driver hit me & totaled it 😢
Had a friend with a Nissan Z - complete opposite, gobs of power chore to drive, take the Mazda anyday.
Never thought I’d like the idea of a supercharged Miata but here we are…
What's not to like?
Why wouldn't you?
I’ve been fortunate enough to drive a lot of really unique and fast cars. On a tight circuit, a supercharged NA or NB Miata blows everything else out of the water.
were you the up to speed on Jame's dad guy?
@@4R8YnTH3CH33F Unpopular opinion, but I hate the sound of superchargers. The whine is annoying to me, whereas a turbo sounds like pure bliss. But I'm talking in general. As for people who like superchargers but don't like them on a miata, I have no idea why.
you should have asked Jimmy Broadbent to borrow his Minty 600bhp mazda and add it on top for this list :D
And auto Alex's v6 one
I came here to post the exact same comment. Didn't need to.
Mad Mike might need an invitation
Agreed would love to see what Minty could do!
I thought the same, but I think Minty retains only the door handles from the original car
After having a stock power 1.8 NB (150bhp) and a turbo 1.6 NB (235bhp), I preferred the stock power one. But also having a slightly modded R53 Mini, I think a supercharged MX5 around 200bhp would be the ideal.
You’re right. About 200hp at the wheels is the sweet spot. Not so much it’s overwhelming or hard to control. Enough to make it fun to drive and decently quick.
The supercharger is awesome because it’s linear and just adds power everywhere. But, people tend to go for a turbo since it’ll generally make more power.
Stock power for a 1.8 NB is about 140. It’s silly that many think that makes for a slow car. Around town and even on the open road it’s plenty of power to keep up. I hardly ever spin the motor above 5K on my NB and I’m still breaking speed limits.
Always wanted to get my ‘91 somewhere between 180-230whp seems to be a nice sweet spot. I would prefer a built NA 1.8 but certainly forced induction is the cheaper/easier route. Had plenty of fun at stock 116bhp!
Actually what am I saying, I had an S2000 before it and I would absolutely love to K swap it (F20C would be ideal but have to alter steering geometry). But yeah still- 180-230whp 😅
140 at the crank. 120ish stock (with cats) at the wheels @@LateNightCable
Mine makes 210whp. I'd like to get an extra 20... 😇
love the perfect display of slip angle at 10:24
rear wheels are one tire width wider and the front ones are slightly countersteering (and using the kerb as a gutter)
that is too much slip angle
that was drifting basically, its too much slip angle and therefore slower
My Uncle Gary raced Spec Miata here in The States and not out boy, were those cars FUN! He let me borrow one of the retired cars to run at a track day and no one could keep up with me, not when the dude in the new Porsche 911. The only guy who was close to my runs was driving an LS swapped FD3 RX-7(sacrilege, I know!). That little MX-5 was incredible through the corners and in braking, but sucked on the straight aways. Keeping momentum was key and that meant I could brake later, maintain speed my speed and get on the accelerator earlier.
I've driven a lot of fun and fast cars in my life, but that was something I'll never forget. It was also extra special since Uncle Gary didn't let people borrow his track cars.
Watching this awesome video made me sad because he passed away a few years ago, but it also brought back lots of great memories at his shop and spending time with him.
Thanks guys and keep up the great work!
This was the comparison that I didn't know I wanted to see until now. Adding a rocketeer conversation to the comparison would been really cool addition.
I seriously love you guys! The comradery is perfect. Always trying to outdo one another at pretty much every competition you guys do. Reminds me of another group of 3 guys driving cars!
Go for a Flyin Miata LS3 swap… no turbo lag, 500 HP plus, perfect suspension set up by Keith Tanner and the crew. You could do all that, listen to the Bose stereo and enjoy air conditioning 😂. So sad they abandoned making those. The Habu was super car. Not like I could have ever afforded one. But it’s just like finding out unicorns went extinct. World is just a little less fun now.
13:48
"Turn the car in..."
"Hit the apex..."
"If hit the apex..."
"I'm on the apex..."
"I'm exiting the Corner...."
:D :D :D
Comedy Gold!
The 400bhp model's turbo flutter sounded like my KIA Proceed when it had a broken solenoid for 18 months - it took that long to diagnose. Can't believe Scott didn't know what the noise was 😂
This sound is the reason i 'deleted' my bov in my fiesta😂
@@mrskylinegtt Oh, it was still fun to belt around, right up until the day I got it fixed!
That's because I found out the same day my head gasket was on the way out 🤦♂
Can’t believe he described a wastegate as a blow off valve.
Great Video as ever! Do you plan on making a video in the future in which you compare the NA vs NB vs NC vs ND by doing timed laps or something similar? I think this would be brilliant.
Gotta get the msm too!
The photography and production quality of these just keeps getting better. The footage of the last lap was fantastic.
Fun fact the “dump valve” they where talking about with the last mx5 doesn’t dump into the exhaust, that’s the waste gate. The reason it makes that noise is it could have a blow off valve venting to atmosphere, making that pssst sound but it doesn’t have one so all that pressure comes back out the front of the turbo
He meant "intake" as with a recirculating valve
@@geometerfpv2804 he literally said “makes that’s psssht noise” it wouldn’t make that noise if it was re-circulating
@@SKOMPAS A recirculating valve will still make that noise, but usually louder with a pod style filter compared to a panel.
@@geometerfpv2804 he meant what he said. He is confused between a dumpvalve (wastegate) and a BOV. People that understand the difference dont explain it perfectly wrong like that.
I want to get that sound in my Honda L15C engine, but I got the HKS SQV valve, it doesn't sound like this, still looking for the answer :(
The flutter is just music to any car guy's ears. Will and Callum are accurate with their reactions.
To REAL "car guys" the flutter is damage to your turbo.
@@seansmith4440too bad
@@seansmith4440 In this case, it isn't. I would think that REAL car guys would know that - If that's really a thing
@@printf_helloworld. Your clearly not a car guy. If it didn't damage your turbo why were BOV's invented? For no reason or maybe so you don't damage your turbo? Do some research and learn a bit.
@@seansmith4440 Oh you're one to talk aren't ya? Too bad you can't seem to read either. I said "In this case, it isn't." Many turbos will flutter without ever facing issues - But these are almost always aftermarket options. (Key words are 'many' and 'almost', in case you didn't catch that the first time.) Bearing and oiling technologies play a key role in this. Your typical OEM turbos are not made to take the same abuse that this Borgwarner is.
But what do I know? I'm clearly not a 'car guy'.
I've had 2 NA and 2 NB. Now I have a Miata Exocet, so much fun!!!
The supercharged one really peaked my interest. I loved my old NA and would love to get another one. Might have to go SC route this time! Great vid guys!
I love how the last car's noises make it sound like its giggling out of every corner!!
Why does it sound like a mating call? Because the owner wants to replace his turbo more often instead of doing it the right way with a BOV. Also no it doesn't dump it down the exhaust. You vent to atmosphere or recirculate to intake. To think these are supposed to be "car guys."
seeing those 2 grown dudes get happy over the little flutter noises that happy little machine makes has made my day
9:30
Just a tip for trackdays, for cars without bucket seat/ good belts
Just lock the usual belt, on your body, you need to push yourself as much as you can to the seat, then you lock belt on your chest, you are fixed with usual seat :)
Great video and I love mk1 MX5’s.👍😎
A dump valve does not put boost pressure into the exhaust it goes either into atmosphere or back into the intake track both are better for the turbo than having it stall, just to make that noise.😮
I think he mixed up wastegate and blow off valve from too much boost. At least I hope.
One of your best episodes thus far, maybe top 5, if you don't ask what the other 4 are.
RESPECT! Yall mastered the best type of automotive content and editing and filming for retention! a big feat
It's a shame y'all didn't reach the final boss: Jimmy Broadbent's Mazda MX-5 nicknamed "Minty"
Just came across your channel, absolutely love it already. You've just got a well deserved like and subscriber
Should have given Jimmy broadbent a ring. He's just finished building a 600bhp lightweight time attack mx5 monster.
Man that stututututu had me smiling from ear to ear!
i don't why but i just started a watching a few miata videos and now you guys made a miata video lmao
Excess boost on the intake side is not vented through the exhaust. If they removed the bypass valve, the flutter you hear is compressor surge, and it kills turbos
I really enjoyed how this video got straight to the point, very entertaining
Now I want a tuned mx5 🙄 cheers guys😂 another entertaining video. Calum asked what videos we liked last week. Still say it'll be easier to just let you know when I see one I don't like 😂🤣 keep being you 👊
Not too keen on the wheels but 200hp in an MX5 is plenty, but that blue one looks the part and would definitely be my choice.
You guys seem very genuine, love it. Much better than highly fabricated more popular channels.
Absolutely LOVE your Videos, as soon as you release another Vid I have to watch it as soon as I can
you really needed a V8 swapped one for the test, can we get another test of the best stock engine block Miata versus different engine swaps?
but that didn't make it not great video, thanks for all the awesome stuff guys!
The issue is there isn’t much choice for V8 engines in the UK. The Rover (Buick) V8 is great but isn’t powerful without lots of mods, anything Jap is 3x the price, no LS options and the Germans all are super complicated.
That would be cool for a subjective test, but the various chassis setups would put a big asterisk on the timed results.
Probably the most fun yous could have making a video! Not one, not two but 5x MX5's
Will's energy is so fun. his little "Yes!" when describing the mazda having fun made me giggle more than I'd like to admit. good stuff.
I own a '93 NA with 30k miles. Such a brilliant smile machine. Simple recipe of coilovers, brakes, wheel and tires, and frame bracing lets you really enjoy every bit of the 100hp. :)
I have one problem with what you've said there - 30k miles?! You've got a fun car, go drive it more! 😁
I've got an 03 with 40k miles lol
@@ApothecaryTerry lol. I bought it with wicked low miles just a couple years ago.
Agreed on the suspension and maybe wheel and tire mods. Those can transform a Miata, and it is a driving car after all. People often focus too much on power output. But when a car weighs 2,300 pounds, you can’t think of it like a conventional car with the usual solutions.
@@LateNightCable But...POWWWAAAAAHHHHH!!!
You're 100% correct, of course.
I absolutely loved the quality, the camera angle, the editing, it was magnificent 🤌, well done 💖
Brilliant video boys!! Loved it. Need to buy a Mk1 MX5 now and get building! 😅
Should have got @jimmy broadbent s mx5 on 👀👀
That's got 600hp running a fully built SR20, it's absolutely off it's face lmao
Scott making the 400hp mazda sing is amazing definitely had just as big a smile as Callum and Will😎
Would have been cool to see minty there. Such a fun video thanks guys!😊
This looked like so much fun again. Call me jealous! Can't wait to see what you guys do next!❤
You guys missed the opportunity to ask Jimmy Broadbent to lend Minty. That would be fun to watch.
Love it when someone like Scott, who is well educated, a professional, when it comes to cornering, grip, car-physics etc puts that all to the side and just has such a blast in a great car like that last one XD
Dude we need a Team 87 and OVERDRIVE team up video. Scott driving Minty would be so sick.
12:56 you mean the intercoolerpiping. That where you mount the blowoff valve to release the air. The wastegate is connected to the exhaust which releases exhaust gas before it goes into the turbo so the turbo runs the exact amount of boost you want
Very irksome mistake
This is a 400hp turbocharged miata, i'm quite scared to get in with you, any last words?
-Help
- Yeah🗿
This is the first video I've seen from you guys and I already like the vibe. Subscribing, thanks for that.
Nice show format and sharing the things that happen with highly modified cars. Really fun.
Absolutely loving this format of video!!
OMG!
9:37 LMFAO!!!! That was freaking hilarious lol!!!!!!!
Old MX-5s are the happiest cars by far. Just look at them! They're just singing "I'm a car!" with the goofiest smile.
Love the comparison. Good video.
You 3 are the new top gear absolutely love the videos you do and the chemistry you all have it works amazing id love to be in one of your videos
Ive been watching driver61 since the beginning. How did i not know about this its fantastic.
Well said mate. Good to hear someone does know how to drive safely (although I did notice you didn't check your blind spot once 😉) and realises that we're all just trying to get somewhere. Everyone just chill and help us all get where we're going faster. Good video mate 👍👍
Just found your channel. Loving it 👌
Loved this video!
I love the Miata. All of em. The NB and ND2 RF are my favs, but they are all great for various reasons. I like the Toyota powered Lotus's for similar reasons.
Great vid, so entertaining to watch. Love MX-5
Jimmer's "Minty" would be a good fit for the show.
If you thought 400bhp is nuts in an mx-5 check out the one Jimmy Broadbent built for time attack UK. It is 600bhp with full aero too named Minty. Still in it's shake down period really with stuff breaking or not working as well as they want, but it is still rapid.
The line up of little happy faces, love these cars
The turbo flutter on the 400hp Mazda was absolutely orgasmic
Crazy how he says that the dump valve would go out the exhaust because that's not how that works.
Lmao yeah. That triggered me. 😅
One of main Koenigsegg test driver Robert Serwański was multiple champion of Mazda MX-5 race series.
the MX-5 'Miata' is a Legendary car a.k.a. Style Icon!
These videos are amazing! Like it so that more people see this
@11:43…. Me giggling at the e whooshy noises…😂. I feel better knowing it’s not just me who does this. “Do it again!” This is why I pulled the complete drivetrain out of my 1990 and replacing it with a forged engine capable of 400 whp on pump gas!
Funny comment on the tyres for the original MX-5, when Toyota relaunched the 86 they used hybrid eco tyres to reduce the grip to keep the fun. For turbo flutter, check out the VL Nissan RB30, Chapel Street special.
Cool video idea man loved the video
I just want to know when overdrive will get a TV show 😊 imagine what these guys could do with a top gear budget.
i had to do some suspension & engine repair work on one.after checking it out thouroughly.they are really thought out well for what they are.for the price point its a really good design, & fun to drive as well.
That clip of sliding out of the seat had me rollin! 😂
Having owned a 270 hp first-generation Miata (with Flyin’ Miata Stage 3 Turbo and race suspension), I found the speed to be a double-edged sword. Very few cars of any type could stay with it on a twisty road. But driving it that fast was, frankly, scary. The turbo lag caused severe bog at a corner’s apex, followed by a huge rush of power as I straightened the wheel to exit. Basically I had to floor the accelerator in the middle of the corner, and pray like hell the car was pointed straight ahead when the power kicked in. Because even with limited-slip and barely legal tires, the rear wheels would be overwhelmed and spin, at which point if I was still turning, the back end of the car wanted to pass the front.
When you bear in mind the consequences of snap-oversteer and a high-speed spin - you can understand that while my much-modified Miata was exciting to drive, it was no longer fun to drive. Why not just drive it slower, you ask. Because then I’d just be going slow in a fast car, which is neither exciting NOR fun.
Miata owners need to understand that the 1960s British roadsters the Miata is based on were not particularly powerful. The 1969 Lotus Elan put out only 115 hp. But that’s all this featherweight two-seater, with race-bred double-wishbone suspension, needed to deliver maximum FUN on a twisty road on a summer’s day with the top down.
Current-generation Miatas deliver more power than the original but remain focused on lightness, handling, and nearly perfect input controls - shifting, braking, steering - that result is one of the most engaging driving experiences at any price. A current Miata would have scored high in this comparison - and in stock form: bargain priced, super reliable, cheap to run, and a blast to drive.
Lmao I love the "wow" segment regarding the supercharger whine 😂
Let’s just take a moment of silence for the Bofi Racing UA-cam channel, missed but not forgotten
Previd ads rolling and already love this vid ngl I’m so excited
Gotta love a car that giggles as much as the driver!
This was awesome to watch and see the difference between them all. You should definitely do this again with a different model. I have a 420bhp track honda ep3 that you could borrow 😁
Nice vid keep up the work❤❤❤❤❤
Great video. That little NA drift car looks like SOOOOOOO much fun.
I'm a simple man, I hear a turbo spooling, and whistling, I smile
I miss my miata. Such a fun car. Stock power train plus some chassis stiffening did wonders to handling.
The throttle cable mishap footage made this one. The driving step by step at 7 mph was hilarious.
fantastic video honestly
Awesome!!
Driven many a Miata in anger from all generations with all kinds of power options from SR, rotary swaps to Turbo, SC set ups. ...never met a miata with too much power. my favorite being a LS swapped 1st gen with 400+whp. doesnt matter what power a miata has. just a damn fun car period.
Despite there being a little more than a 400% (4x) increase in power from the 90hp MX-5 to the 400hp MX-5 there was only a 16% improvement in lap times.
The faster you go the harder it is to get faster
Also depends on the track, the one in the video seems to rely on tight corners with very few straights.@@BestiaTres3
Because it can’t put down all that power all the time.
great great job of video. hahahaha. I liked it! congrats!
This video brought back memories of my 1990 Monster Miata, with its Mustang 5 litre motor and 5 speed transmission. I miss that car!
Great content!