I am Cuban, veteran from Ethiopia and Angola with 27 direct combat missions, 65 indirect combat missions and deployed into war zone during 31 months; I ended with all possible condecorations and medals and with the rank of Sergeant Major of an Elite Airborne Infantry Unit of the FAR-Cuba. I was conscripted by the force of the state and the law, trained and brainwashed for the Communists. They never paid me any cent, we were just young people trapped inside that regime, what could I did? I had no choice to carry on. But I always knew I was used for bad. I am lucky I returned home alive, thanks God. Other 7000 young cuban men like me lost their lives in Africa and Latin America fighting Castro and Soviets wars. Salute to all veterans any side. War is hell, soldiers are just peons in a big chess game. I never killed innocents, everything I did was to defense my own life and my soldiers.
You liberated two countries and set Mandela free which in turn set south Africa free. So hush cubans didn't colonize Africa or get rich off of it. And last thing what lies you are talking about the cubans that went to battle volunteered
@@asherif3893 ...I have an uneasy feeling you actually swallow Castro’s old contention that full scale Cuban military intervention in Angola et al was undertaken solely out of a sense of selfless comradely unity! But no, surely you couldn’t be _that_ naive... ;)
@@makara80 check out American Bashi bazouks the cubans on youtube it perfectly describes the freinds of america in south America from Manuel Noriega, the contras, to nazi pedophiles like paul Schafer, and augusto Pinochet the worst of the worst who used death flights, human experimentation, and even putting rats inside a women's private part. So castro might not be democratic but he was a saint to those cocaine coup funded generalismos. Same in Africa many countries gave arms and money for the independence of african nations but only one gave its blood and fought side by side with the african people. Hence for that he is greatly respected in Africa is he a saint of course not but a great revolutionary and military commander who fought alongside africans.
@@byttlejuice145 To paraphrase the late Caroline Aherne: ‘Fidel, what first attracted you to the _resource rich_ nation of Angola?’ What indeed. Regardless, I do enjoy shameless revisionists (Castro included) insisting that substantial Cuban military hardware and personnel traversed the Atlantic Ocean at great expense and logistical strain simply to fight _apartheid_ though. Always a laugh. ;)
I am Namibian but I have roots from Angola…this is cos the war in Angola displaced people to Namibia, Zambia and South Africa…I am blessed by watching this documentary cos I can recount the stories my parents and grandparents told me
Africa display people on a daily basis as they have corrupt and greedy governments all over SA and Africa that want to live the English colonial lifestyle with bodyguards dressed in designer suits heavily weaponed driving them home in imported vehicles to their billion dollar mansions and keep citizens poor 😢
Oshakati where i belong before.untag .malbatt. What a most memorable experience i will not forget. Walalapo peoples of oshakati. Ovamboland i miss u. Now i have a grandchilds.
So happy for the namibian people who received independence 32 years ago. I visited Namibia a year ago, and must say, what a peaceful country it is now. I worked with and helped the poor communities, and the humbleness of people is something that struck me. A big Heart goes out to you!
The ignorant will always side with the ones that believe in the lies from their indoctrinators, their own people..... by doing worse as they’ve making it out that the past was so bad..... try and listen to the other side as well.... NO noT from the side of the white people, but the other side of the black population in the region..... who suffered a great deal under swapo..... your knowledge about what transpired are very vague and you seriously lack the information from all sides...... with ALL the reparations paid by Germany for one and all the International Funds they’ve received, the swapo regime has hardly done anything to uplift the people in the poor communities..... take Katatura, on the outskirts of Windhoek...... there is not one place where you can say that the swapo regime has spend any of those billions to uplift the face of Karatura!!!! Not ONE!!! It’s so freaking bad.... that they’ve lowered the passing standards for schools, that if u want to get a senior certificate to be able to get accepted for Universities or College or any accredited Academic facilities abroad, you have to complete it at a college level since high schools only goes toe grade 10.... Gr11 and 12 you need to go to a college.... Everything has collapsed under the Swapo regime..... all those beautiful architectural buildings they inherited and the infrastructure of Namibia, which is, or let me rephrase, WAS THE best infrastructure in Africa, had the cleanest and purest tap water in all of Africa and even in the world, it all collapsed and fallen into a state of despair.....
I spent 4 months as a conscript mechanised infantry soldier in Ondangwa Namibia. It broke my heart to see how these people were torn apart by this war. Seriously my heart broke in this country and I had been fighting 8 months at Cuito Cannavale. I think the straw that broke the camels back was seeing the civilian suffering. I hated going into people's homes and I would actually hide any paraphernalia that would cause trouble for these people. I witnessed crimes against humanity in that place that haunt me to this day. God bless the Namibian people. In my opinion the only reason south Africa insisted on being in Namibia was for the diamonds, just like Angola. De beers/ Anglo American. All the blood diamonds went through Zambia and then to Antwerp or Tel aviv. Ironically it was the Israelis who killed Savimbi and ex south African military mercenaries who finished off Unita. The Rape of Africa by big corp continues.
Dear Sir Daniel Botwood I shall for ever remain endebted to you if I ignore responding to your so heart-moving self-revealing account in this regard....I can't resist writing. Dearest Botwood, I am a Namibian by birth. Having been born at the beginning of 1979. And while this may not really matter,I am unhesitant to insinuate that you are a white man of Boer extraction. I am a Namibian black (man now) from the Aawambo Kwambi tribal dialect of notthern Namibia. By your own confession here you were part of the the SWATF/Koevoet army element that inflicted so much dear pain to my people. By the time you were fighting at Quito Qanavale, I should have been a boy of somewhere around 9. This means my eyes have seen a glimpse of it that outlines the Namibian liberation narrative between my SWAPO and your South Africa's Apartheid government then. Yet that does not represent a sign of vindication towards you or any former member of your military element of the day. I am deeply moved by the human character in you. It is it that made you then to feel a sense of protectivity of my people from your people then and the same character allows you to speak out belatedly, though, today. I want you to know tonight: Mr Botwood, I am glad that you have survived the scurge of that war to date. 37 years on from the epicentre of your real active participation in it, here you and I are here today...no longer much as white and black but people of one creation, one world and more specially, people of one continent....united by the mutual continental patriotism towards interpersonal toil to better ourselves and our people here. That alone, must be to God. Long live Daniel...stay well Botwood Yours dearly Unite Ekandjo Owambo,Namibia
@@kentimmins9171 you have obviously never been dragged out by your neck and kicked unconscious in front of your wife and children, or kidnapped and tortured without a proper trial. Please tell me what what I said was untrue.
@@uniteekandjo9454 Thank you for your kind words sir. Yes it's been a long time. Your words made me realise what I am. Compasionate, intelligent and worthy. I was very proud of being in my infantry unit. I was under the impression that as a man with a gun your job is to protect. That is how it should be always. I have for a long time suffered by my memories of being a soldier in your land and some of the things that I was part of and witnessed. Your kind words are very much appreciated. God bless us :)
Can someone give me satisfactory answers:did any black Namibian became a millionaire during SA regime, in meaning sharing resources of SWA equally, where are the mineral wealth of Brandberg Tin Mine, Kopermyn in the June region, old TCL mine, Otjihase mine, CDM, Uis Tin Mine, they stole that belong to Namibia, why are you crying about Fishrot????????
Quite informative documentary, about the painful past of our neighbours..but the resilience and steadfastness of the Namibian heroes is extremely superb..
Heinrich Muller we were the first to build MRAP’s in only in the early 2000’s we help the US to build their first MRAP’s. We were far ahead of the rest of the world regarding MRAP vehicles.
this people when did nonsense to people and kill children and Enocent people and they put it the media and the next minute they don't say sorry and start righting And comment nonsense this murder fuker even you don't want be racist they make you racist.
Proud Namibian and former PLAN combatant. Very emotional seeing Namibian Nation united in blood fighting to liberate their mother land. The community in Berseba, the workers, students, civic and other patriotic organizations from all walks of life. All colours, rejecting with one voice the vices of division by the apartheid regime and it's war machinery. I also feel for those brothers who were either misled or joined these notorious forces either willingly ir for the sake of survival. Today we have gained our freedom and we March together in unison. We must be proud of our heroic struggle for the emancipation of our beautiful land. this film has taught me a lot and changed my perception of participation in the war for liberation completely. I feel proud for being Namibian, I mean Namibian. Those who feel otherwise about this clip must accept that history will never be re-written in any way. Here we have living testimonies. Not driven by emotions but truth. Nothing else but truth. From Berseba to Katjinakatji, testimonies are there for all to see and hear. Let us build our country in unity and being pride of the heroic deeds of our fore fathers and all our fallen heroes and heroines of our mother land. Viva the people of Namibia, Viva!
+Titus Shikongo I'm proud to see that you guys fought for your freedom. Such courage, and honor. If Namibian's struggle for freedom were shared with all of Africa then there will be a change. I salute you guys.
British media always needed to add a tail to a SA war documentary. Why? Not because of Namibian independence but for selling out the best power the continent of Africa has ever seen
kevin harris is south african, ''but for selling out the best power the continent of Africa has ever seen'' the SADF was an absolute whale of a military... it was a economic drain on apartheid south africa also it was the white south africans who sold them sold themselves out for being racist and stupid enough to launch wars in neighboring african countries to destabilize them (entire border war 1966 to 1989) and to maintain such a evil system for so long.
Absolutely untrue, the only example would be Zimbabwe, but even SA is better off now than it was under apartheid, and more than half of the problems it has now are due to apartheid policies anyway.
blaming whitey? lol.... After 30 years.. of being handed the richest country with the best infrastructure in Africa ? Current SA could not ask for a bigger head start... I hope you enjoy your freedom.... freedom to blame whitey until SA becomes a 3rd world country
have read a few comments, and it seems, as with most conflicts, people on both sides are defensive. Most importantly, the question is whether the Namibian path to independence left the country better off, given the track record of liberation movements who form government. I have not researched this, but have picked up on a story where the Namibian government made it clear to the communists in their ranks looking to create a 2 layer society based on enriching themselves through land grabs etc. That this would start a classical African struggle for power. The idea did not die. Let's hope Namibia stays truly free.
Everybody always wants to see things in black or white, good or bad. All too often we forget that all wars are dirty, and both sides often dabble in shades of grey.
@@Korey_Salaam Uhm no. Not at all. You are being ignorant and you showcase of having a brainwashed racist mind because you talk about things the original post commenter hasnt even talked about. He didnt question who started it or who did not. He tried to create a peaceful common ground but you refuse that and try to go on with your racist agenda trying to paint white people as generally bad. There were many things playing into the reason to why this war has happened. But you just start looking at it in a black-white manner against which the original post has warned about... very ignorant action.
@@Korey_Salaam SA could not leave Namibia because of the Cuban troops wanting to swoop up the land making it communist. My mom still had to do drills in school in case of terrorist attack. China was one of the big supporters of the freedom fighters. Look at what happend now 😂. I think apartheid was wrongly ended (not wrongfully though). They should have prepaired atleast 20 years to slowly but surely equalize the races. (Giving equal opportunities etc). You dont even know the chaos that was caused by putting a terrorist on the presidental chair. Also compared to SA the people who where not white where treated far better than in SA (they had electricity and support for businesses in their homelands). However it's good it was ended, yet it ended in the wrong way. So now we are living with the consequences of not planing out the real road to freedom, equality and cultural assimilation. Which is a corrupt government (uses racial tension to distract the people from what they are really doing), we are still dependent on SA for electricity/water /imported food/ money ie(1SAD=1NAD). Our mineral resources are sold to china and Europe by the government . The general attitude is , it's all the white/chinese peoples fault/ we don't need to work /no need to put in an active effort for change.The crime rate is bad. I could go on for hours about the attitude I grew up with but it only makes me more angry and sad. See, there are only very few oreos and many white people/ coloured people giving a darn.
Was called up at 18 for defending SA borders and proud of it. Was trained to be highly qaylified SA soldier and instructor in bush war. If you look at the bigger picture, we have put Namibia in much better position and S A was protected to such a state that no one would attempt to take on S A. All for my family and the future. Proud of it.
Just to add to it, still have the scars and have to live with it, but will do it any day again. Our mission was not to destruct, but make a difference.
Funny how white South Africans still lie to themselves about the bush war no one was invading you lol. Long Live a Free and Independent Namibia and may Apartheid forever rot in its grave
Our members of parliament today need to c this and remember what we fought for. This is nelago sheya former swapo fighter now in Barbados Caribbean island. Let's not bring up ethnicity and tribalism or social segregation which we fought against. NB! Their blood has waters our freedom. Freedom to love one another.
@@GambianoBahiano315 Not really. Im just not a supporter of any corrupt communist organization. I must have hit a nerve. Are you a former SWAPO terr living in a totally different country too? Same question to you. Was SWAPO idea of freedom not to your liking?
If I had the power, I would put the biggest and highest theaters in every town in Namibian and play this film everyday just so that maybe this politic leaders that are wasting what our ancestors died for as the Namibian nation, maybe they will come to their senses and for the people of Namibia 🇳🇦 to realise that they have the power and the politicians
Stop talking like you don’t know how hypocritical the West has been. Once you lost your 20th century neoslavery, you sabotaged every economy, except those that had your multinationals. Who owns 80% of the fertile land in Namibia? In so disheartening that y’all can be this disingenuous and your fall to point is, look at it now. If you’re not in control, you destroy it. China learnt its lesson, now its threatening the world with its expansion. Who is running the show now?
Lmao Namibia is one of the most stable African nations in the modern world and has become far more progressive in regards to civil rights and is very peaceful they’ve accomplished a lot be quiet racist white boy
"What Apartheid White South African GRN" did to Namibia.The ANC an SWAPO were alliances and most who started the revolution were railway workers and students in Cape Town ..who learned alot from the ANC youth league..how to mobilize and tactics..They used that knowledge to wage the same liberation struggle.
O certo seria gratidão. Suid Afrika livrou a Namibia do destino de nações destruídas pelo comunismo como Zimbabwe e Moçambique por exemplo. Bom estaria o Brasil se tivesse tido um aliado desse nível.
The richest people there are Germans and Afrikaners but they did bring some farming and ranching jobs. Also it’s a pretty decent tourist destination from what I read.
We are in a better Shape, nothing was happening in Namibia when SADF ruled Namibia, yall sound like you did put Namibia somewhere, like nill progress except what the Germany left. Within 30 years Namibia has developed more better than In SA era
@@Amanzi379Basket case because it has been that and remember some of laws such those SACU regulations are put in place purposefully to prevent smaller member nations from industrialising.
exactly what whites want for us to fight against our own. what low life behavior. I commend the brave young men who chose not to fight against their brothers
As a white British South African, I am deeply appalled and ashamed by what the apartheid government did to the black people of Namibia and South African.
@@leestevens5546 nonsense, every problem south africa deals with today can be traced back to NP ruled/aparthied south africa corruption, high violent crime, poverty and lack of accountability can all be traced back to apartheid.
Angola Namíbia brothers forever viva Namibia! viva Angola! a luta continua a Victoria e certa ! SwAPO was very determined people with figth mentality, even the ladies played the big roll I always appreciated to see them in Angola special the SwAPO ladies truck driver , I know it was hard time for Angola , Namibia and south Africa but I miss it. In addition Namibian are lovely people I miss my Namibian colleges at time of Soviet union.
Point of correction independence was achieved on 21March 1990 not May as documented please, Much appreciated since a nation without history documented is valueless, thanks for the video recording
You didn't expect them to tell the entire story did you? Did you really expect them to interview the media handler in Pretoria to challenge what was being said about the SADF? Pretoria lost the war before it was fully waged and they foolishly let the narrative slide against them, this not mentioning DeKlerk being allowed to replace the last true hope anyone in South Africa had.
@@nikicam2 It was never illegal to begin with, that was a smear by the USSR to further their grip on Africa, with Mandela and the other puppets to let them.
@@pieterwillembotha6719 you honesty are one of many white south africans who think you are superior, part of a superior race, just because your skin is white. You are no different to a Nazi.
Justice from what you bloody imbaseal. Communism was knocking at the door, and you think that is better. You should be washing the feet of the national party and thanking them for building a wall between that and this....
i grew up in pretoria ..i was a teen around bothas presidency ... our songs were always about atrocities in angola, zambia ... the diabolical, repressive tactics used by the sandf in south west africa, were similar to what they did at home ... most of these soldiers are now walking freely, enjoying retirement ... my wish is that they be tried and brought to justice ... no group of people must have the license to be so evil ...
You are foolish at first and last instance... and this has nothing to do with afrikaans... you are just contributing stupidity to the afrikander nation....you could have easily been an abrasive bum wipe had you been born a paper...
Nice documentary, and if this is one side of the story, at least we've got one side of the story for now, awaits more. . . About African Countries being 'worse or better off' after the fall of colonization, it also depends on your perception of better, is it better to be a slave and live in a double story house with electricity, or is it better to be free and live in a mud house???Freedom is the key and a starting point.
white people in the West are so obsessed with property and consumerism they just can't wrap their head around the idea that someone can refuse nice things to have dignity instead
That was only for formality's sake, by which they essentially partook in paper-terrorism (look it up if you don't know what it means), but ultimately took their supposed grievances to the high court at the UN.
The only nonsense you keep hearing from racist sour grapes is that "Africa is worse off now than under colonialism..." or communism this or that. Well, Africa like Europe will have to evolve through mismanagement etc. This is what we wanted, the right to make our own mistakes or to do right. Those who want to live in a well run economy can always migrate to the USA or Europe; or even to China, even we black Africans take this route when we want to. We are a developing community who's development was interfered with by outside greed. A freed slave has the right to destroy everything the master made and to start from scratch. It's just what it is.
"The only nonsense you keep hearing from racist sour grapes is that "Africa is worse off now than under colonialism..." Well I for one will certainly concede that the above assertions are perhaps deployed a little too eagerly at times but they are technically accurate and far from "nonsense" in many instances I'm afraid. ....Also love the lack of irony with your rather casual suggestion that Africans can just elope to the West en masse if it takes their fancy! As I say, "irony". ;)
@@makara80 If you think that Namibians are by any possible metric of development or infrastructure worse off, then you must be high! Any metric I can think of is better now: education, health, nutrition, economic size and sophistication, opportunities, infrastructure quality, political stability. I don't see large numbers of Namibians fleeing their country.
....Speaking of "high" perhaps it would be more constructive to dispute what I _actually_ asserted rather than what you have disengenously decided I said...? ;)
_Very_ "disingenuous" I'm afraid Winston. However if you're feeling suitably masochistic I'd recommend perusing over your previous comments so that you may enlighten yourself on precisely how you misconstrued my opinion. ....Not that you don't know already of course. ;) Just in case you genuinely can't figure it out though I'll give you a hint: Namibia _doesn't_ equate to the entirety of Africa.... ;)
This is not a one sided documentary it's a wonderful and good documentary telling people thr truth, and what happened, and today swapo in rulling Namibia and it's one of the safest countries, one of the richest and fast growing economy, and with a very small population tell me if the fight wasn't worth it 🇳🇦❤ and people live with peace and harmony white and black
Most people from across the world realize that watching this. The only people in the comments saying it's one sided are literal white supremacists and are completely unable to type so much as a sentence without exposing that.
important part of history that needed to be said. the troops on SA side thought they were fighting for a good cause. in their minds it was, they were fighting in a war where the man next to you is your brother. They did not see the bigger picture and they didn't need politics to further cloud their minds. its very important to see this conflict from both sides and choose for yourself what is right. thx for sharing.
Um, operation reindeer was not in 1988 - it was in 1978; I know, I was in it... Easy to check, see wikipedia. Not very good research or fact checking here, what?
Somalia sent military trainers and expert to Namibia at least 10 officers from somali army force to support Namibian struggle against south Africa , in order to liberate their own country .
How can you blame these people. I was offered a job in SA years ago as a police man. Being white Im glad I never took the job. Oppression and violence. Cut these poor brothers and sisters some slack. Give them freedom
A well massaged account depicting the poor oppressed people. 30 years on we tealise thst. International interests were also dtiving the agendas back then. They promised the naive SA POLITICIANS all sorts of support to buy time in recouping their capital investment in things like diamond mining etc. Uk and American govetnments were heavily immersed in this subterfuge.
There are never winners in war. If you don't love Africa then go to another country. Traumatized people remain. PTSD. I have had the honour of visiting Namibia. I have iron from the desert there.
Blacks Original peoples worldwide forever. "So called whities racist, colonizers" = Thieves. Natural Tribal disputes and cooperations has been within Indigenous peoples worldwide, before fakes Adam & Eve. The evils of "so called whites" racism, greed and thieves with their puppets, directly or indirectly everywhere, is the worst problems. Examples of Australia Aborigines, Amerikas Aborigines/Indigenous, Europes Aborigines/Indigenous etc. Currently with religions, Arabs and others inclusive. Factual worldwide true history remains*. Divine Equity/Karma MUST take place in time to restore worldwide Peace. Ise*.
@@schalk_2606 The originators of worldwide evils, colonizers killing thugs, Worldwide apartheid killers and worldwide oppressors MUST get their Karma in due time.
Strange how some people in the comments section seem to justify the apartheid government and reject international law in terms of the people's right to self-determination and independence.
You have no idea about reality! The treaty the British signed with South Africa and Germany after the British annexed Namibia after the first world war stated that when South Africa give up Namibia, it have to handed back to Germany.
I was a "KID"in that time,and have a "Bleeding"disorder,haemophiloa.I dont agree with ALL that HAPPENDBut MANY things are "BLOWN"out of proportion,believe me.Much "WRONG" was also just "HUMAN"nature.I have grown up to see "WRONG"then,and that "SAME"wrong,used to "JUSTIFY" wrong,now.And WHO SUFFERED.PEOPLE,WHITE AND BLACK.I had not much help for my "Condition".Must I now go and Blame the "WORLD"for the "INJUSTICES" .I am soooo tired of LISTENING to "HOW RACIST"we whites were.Yet,all I wanted was UNDERSTANDING,not "BLAMING"
Blimey, the bias oozing from this rather dubious documentary couldn't be more blatant! Yet perhaps it also (unintentionally) provides an insightful contrast against other contemporary films on the Border War of whose sympathies overtly lie with South Africa. As ever then, the 'truth' is likely to be somewhere in the middle of these two (relative) extremes.
Absolutely appalling that these soldiers were called "South Africans" as if they represented all of us😢😔 To even think their families saw them as "heroes" after such horrendous atrocities.
I understand that the unlawful occupation of Namibia was unacceptable. On which legal basis were these young men conscripted? The world has never tried to give the small white South African minority an assurance of their continued existence on a continent in which minorities don’t matter.
''The world has never tried to give the small white South African minority an assurance of their continued existence on a continent in which minorities don’t matter'' So what does illegaly occupying namibia, oppressing and carrying out torture and exacutions of its civilians for DECADES has anything to do with the ''assurance'' for the Afrikaners existence, when the native nambians faced genocide DECADES prior by german colonizers ??? the most ridiculous and selfish take i've seen here its absolute nonsense when you consider the historic fact that for decades the west: USA UK Germany gave apartheid south africa backing and apartheid south africa (bastards as they are) did business with the soviet union.
@Mr ed. Daar is veel dinge wat beter geword maar op diselfde tyd is daar veel dinge wat slegte geword het. Die grootste probleem is die kapitaliste wat in beheer van die regering en privaat besigheid is. Hulle het die normale man in die straat marginalseer. Dit maak geen verskil as jy er blanke of nie blanke is nie. Die waarheid is dat die mense op die links en regs is slagoffers van propaganda. Die wenners is die ryk elite klas.
@@louvendran7273the only one who has been brainwashed here is you of course capitalism still harms African nations but Namibia is far better off not under apartheid
"Koevoet" was known in South Africa as meaning "Absolute terror and fear". We helplessly read about attrocities done im the dark of the night and newspapers were banned as a result of exposing too much of this.
Namibia has its independence, and that's what matters. In fact Namibians are kind, even that 1% population of whites leaving in Namibia should be gone by now, their presence is an insult to the people who suffered for so long to achieve freedom. God Bless Namibia.
I agree with the first part and glad that Namibia has its independence. But I do not agree that the white Namibians living in Namibia should be gone and that it is an insult to others that they are not gone by now. What is wrong with you? Do you not realize that you are being racist? White Namibians have just as much right to live in Namibia as black Namibians if you do agree then in your opinion then freedom should only apply to black Namibians and not white Namibians thus you're asking for Namibia to be just like Apartheid South Africa that oppresses others based on race. That is a disgusting opinion and you should be ashamed of yourself.
What their white ancestors did was wrong, but that does not mean their innocent descendants have to suffer for it, it won't make us anymore better than them.
That's based on racist stereotypes. Just because their buying land doesn't mean that their gonna colonize us. Maybe if they setup a military base in every country then I would think that.Btw Antarctica, he continent in our hemisphere doesn't belong to anyone but if it did it wouldn't go to the southern hemisphere countries.
It seems to me that all these so called freedom movements in most african countries have led to the total decline of the African continent. I am just an observer from far away (Canada). But Africa used to be a thriving,yes under Colonial rule but thriving. I would like to ask, say the people of Zimbabwe if life was better in Rhodesia compared to life under Mugabe. I am not some white power racist. It just looks like nothing has been built or developed since Colonial powers have left.
MrBubbydoo the problem is that you are observing from another continent. How about you step away from your computer screen and come and find out. Namibia is thriving since independence. And this is all thanks to our freedom fighters.
Name one country that got better once ruled by black majority after throwing off the "yolk of white rule." I'm actually curious cause I can't think of any.
omitted at the very begining (between German annexation and League of Nations mandate) was that SA acquired South West via military conquest at the start of the 1st World War.. then it says 100,000 SA troops in SWA! are you kidding SADF was never more than 80,000 tops and not all of those were in SWA
@@jasondehideniya879 any white state should be created out of Africa. We shall fight for every bit of the black African soil. Look what happened to American natives, or the Australian aboriginals, we shall not be next
Thank you a lot to today's technology for showing this. Nothing is hidden under the sun
Ocean County Hospital? Is that supposed to be Oshakati?
I am Cuban, veteran from Ethiopia and Angola with 27 direct combat missions, 65 indirect combat missions and deployed into war zone during 31 months; I ended with all possible condecorations and medals and with the rank of Sergeant Major of an Elite Airborne Infantry Unit of the FAR-Cuba. I was conscripted by the force of the state and the law, trained and brainwashed for the Communists. They never paid me any cent, we were just young people trapped inside that regime, what could I did? I had no choice to carry on. But I always knew I was used for bad. I am lucky I returned home alive, thanks God. Other 7000 young cuban men like me lost their lives in Africa and Latin America fighting Castro and Soviets wars. Salute to all veterans any side. War is hell, soldiers are just peons in a big chess game. I never killed innocents, everything I did was to defense my own life and my soldiers.
You liberated two countries and set Mandela free which in turn set south Africa free. So hush cubans didn't colonize Africa or get rich off of it. And last thing what lies you are talking about the cubans that went to battle volunteered
@@asherif3893 ...I have an uneasy feeling you actually swallow Castro’s old contention that full scale Cuban military intervention in Angola et al was undertaken solely out of a sense of selfless comradely unity!
But no, surely you couldn’t be _that_ naive... ;)
@@makara80 check out American Bashi bazouks the cubans on youtube it perfectly describes the freinds of america in south America from Manuel Noriega, the contras, to nazi pedophiles like paul Schafer, and augusto Pinochet the worst of the worst who used death flights, human experimentation, and even putting rats inside a women's private part. So castro might not be democratic but he was a saint to those cocaine coup funded generalismos. Same in Africa many countries gave arms and money for the independence of african nations but only one gave its blood and fought side by side with the african people. Hence for that he is greatly respected in Africa is he a saint of course not but a great revolutionary and military commander who fought alongside africans.
@@makara80 yes they were, things such as communism or socialism whatever u want is just an ideology and not worth fighting over
@@byttlejuice145 To paraphrase the late Caroline Aherne: ‘Fidel, what first attracted you to the _resource rich_ nation of Angola?’
What indeed.
Regardless, I do enjoy shameless revisionists (Castro included) insisting that substantial Cuban military hardware and personnel traversed the Atlantic Ocean at great expense and logistical strain simply to fight _apartheid_ though. Always a laugh. ;)
I am Namibian but I have roots from Angola…this is cos the war in Angola displaced people to Namibia, Zambia and South Africa…I am blessed by watching this documentary cos I can recount the stories my parents and grandparents told me
Africa display people on a daily basis as they have corrupt and greedy governments all over SA and Africa that want to live the English colonial lifestyle with bodyguards dressed in designer suits heavily weaponed driving them home in imported vehicles to their billion dollar mansions and keep citizens poor 😢
Me: *needs to sleep*
UA-cam: kid, you want some... namibia documentaries?
You, too?
Even me
Oshakati where i belong before.untag .malbatt.
What a most memorable experience i will not forget.
Walalapo peoples of oshakati.
Ovamboland i miss u.
Now i have a grandchilds.
The Afrikaners and others wl save Namibia if the going gets tough IT IS A TRUE AND PROVEN FACT
So happy for the namibian people who received independence 32 years ago. I visited Namibia a year ago, and must say, what a peaceful country it is now. I worked with and helped the poor communities, and the humbleness of people is something that struck me. A big Heart goes out to you!
Wenn da alles so gut läuft was sucht ihr denn in Europa? Das ein wenig was da gibt ist dank Europäer ihr seit undankbares Volk
The ignorant will always side with the ones that believe in the lies from their indoctrinators, their own people..... by doing worse as they’ve making it out that the past was so bad..... try and listen to the other side as well.... NO noT from the side of the white people, but the other side of the black population in the region..... who suffered a great deal under swapo..... your knowledge about what transpired are very vague and you seriously lack the information from all sides...... with ALL the reparations paid by Germany for one and all the International Funds they’ve received, the swapo regime has hardly done anything to uplift the people in the poor communities..... take Katatura, on the outskirts of Windhoek...... there is not one place where you can say that the swapo regime has spend any of those billions to uplift the face of Karatura!!!! Not ONE!!! It’s so freaking bad.... that they’ve lowered the passing standards for schools, that if u want to get a senior certificate to be able to get accepted for Universities or College or any accredited Academic facilities abroad, you have to complete it at a college level since high schools only goes toe grade 10.... Gr11 and 12 you need to go to a college.... Everything has collapsed under the Swapo regime..... all those beautiful architectural buildings they inherited and the infrastructure of Namibia, which is, or let me rephrase, WAS THE best infrastructure in Africa, had the cleanest and purest tap water in all of Africa and even in the world, it all collapsed and fallen into a state of despair.....
Im a namibian youtuber
I spent 4 months as a conscript mechanised infantry soldier in Ondangwa Namibia. It broke my heart to see how these people were torn apart by this war. Seriously my heart broke in this country and I had been fighting 8 months at Cuito Cannavale. I think the straw that broke the camels back was seeing the civilian suffering. I hated going into people's homes and I would actually hide any paraphernalia that would cause trouble for these people. I witnessed crimes against humanity in that place that haunt me to this day. God bless the Namibian people.
In my opinion the only reason south Africa insisted on being in Namibia was for the diamonds, just like Angola. De beers/ Anglo American. All the blood diamonds went through Zambia and then to Antwerp or Tel aviv. Ironically it was the Israelis who killed Savimbi and ex south African military mercenaries who finished off Unita. The Rape of Africa by big corp continues.
You are talking utter bullshit my Leftie friend
Dear Sir Daniel Botwood
I shall for ever remain endebted to you if I ignore responding to your so heart-moving self-revealing account in this regard....I can't resist writing.
Dearest Botwood, I am a Namibian by birth. Having been born at the beginning of 1979. And while this may not really matter,I am unhesitant to insinuate that you are a white man of Boer extraction. I am a Namibian black (man now) from the Aawambo Kwambi tribal dialect of notthern Namibia. By your own confession here you were part of the the SWATF/Koevoet army element that inflicted so much dear pain to my people. By the time you were fighting at Quito Qanavale, I should have been a boy of somewhere around 9. This means my eyes have seen a glimpse of it that outlines the Namibian liberation narrative between my SWAPO and your South Africa's Apartheid government then. Yet that does not represent a sign of vindication towards you or any former member of your military element of the day. I am deeply moved by the human character in you. It is it that made you then to feel a sense of protectivity of my people from your people then and the same character allows you to speak out belatedly, though, today. I want you to know tonight: Mr Botwood, I am glad that you have survived the scurge of that war to date. 37 years on from the epicentre of your real active participation in it, here you and I are here today...no longer much as white and black but people of one creation, one world and more specially, people of one continent....united by the mutual continental patriotism towards interpersonal toil to better ourselves and our people here. That alone, must be to God. Long live Daniel...stay well Botwood
Yours dearly
Unite Ekandjo
Owambo,Namibia
@@kentimmins9171 you have obviously never been dragged out by your neck and kicked unconscious in front of your wife and children, or kidnapped and tortured without a proper trial.
Please tell me what what I said was untrue.
@@uniteekandjo9454 Thank you for your kind words sir. Yes it's been a long time. Your words made me realise what I am. Compasionate, intelligent and worthy. I was very proud of being in my infantry unit. I was under the impression that as a man with a gun your job is to protect. That is how it should be always.
I have for a long time suffered by my memories of being a soldier in your land and some of the things that I was part of and witnessed. Your kind words are very much appreciated. God bless us :)
Can someone give me satisfactory answers:did any black Namibian became a millionaire during SA regime, in meaning sharing resources of SWA equally, where are the mineral wealth of Brandberg Tin Mine, Kopermyn in the June region, old TCL mine, Otjihase mine, CDM, Uis Tin Mine, they stole that belong to Namibia, why are you crying about Fishrot????????
Let it be known. Winning battles doesn't mean you win the War.
Gwen Lister deserve her recognition.. she did more than some corrupt fools who never fought..
Quite informative documentary, about the painful past of our neighbours..but the resilience and steadfastness of the Namibian heroes is extremely superb..
Indeed painful yet very important to remember no matter the emotions 💪
@@goonerfromjhb biased and false
@@yakovbrod9992 what is biased and false?
@@goonerfromjhb this so called documentary. it's totally one sided. why would you trust anything that doesn't allow the other side to talk?
@@goonerfromjhbBecause it doesn't fit his narrative.
I've heard only good things about Namibia .It is a very beautiful country with strict laws.I hope to visit this country .Vetri South Africa 🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏
🙏🇿🇦🙏
Thank you for this. It’s important for us to understand what our parents went through. Because it is so different now and we are so free.
A blind man can't lead another blind person!!!
Also some of the biggest bullshit I have ever seen
So free yet so shackled by a corrupt and incompetent government
Free without clean water and electricity 😂😂😂😂
@@penzancegunner857where do you get the idea that there is clean water ? If there is no electricity then what powers the device used to type this ?
I've always liked seeing the vehicles that S.A have used in the bush, they look so much like modern day MRAP's
Heinrich Muller we were the first to build MRAP’s in only in the early 2000’s we help the US to build their first MRAP’s. We were far ahead of the rest of the world regarding MRAP vehicles.
@@tigerjohn313
You and those white racists are the opposite sides of the same coin: one doesn't exist without the other...
this people when did nonsense to people and kill children and Enocent people and they put it the media and the next minute they don't say sorry and start righting And comment nonsense this murder fuker even you don't want be racist they make you racist.
@@mygmail7238 if you white please avoid me because I'm not joking .
@@mygmail7238 I wish I meet you in my street or white like you you will NO if I'm joking
Proud Namibian and former PLAN combatant. Very emotional seeing Namibian Nation united in blood fighting to liberate their mother land. The community in Berseba, the workers, students, civic and other patriotic organizations from all walks of life. All colours, rejecting with one voice the vices of division by the apartheid regime and it's war machinery. I also feel for those brothers who were either misled or joined these notorious forces either willingly ir for the sake of survival. Today we have gained our freedom and we March together in unison. We must be proud of our heroic struggle for the emancipation of our beautiful land. this film has taught me a lot and changed my perception of participation in the war for liberation completely. I feel proud for being Namibian, I mean Namibian. Those who feel otherwise about this clip must accept that history will never be re-written in any way. Here we have living testimonies. Not driven by emotions but truth. Nothing else but truth. From Berseba to Katjinakatji, testimonies are there for all to see and hear. Let us build our country in unity and being pride of the heroic deeds of our fore fathers and all our fallen heroes and heroines of our mother land. Viva the people of Namibia, Viva!
+Titus Shikongo I'm proud to see that you guys fought for your freedom. Such courage, and honor. If Namibian's struggle for freedom were shared with all of Africa then there will be a change. I salute you guys.
Kikuyu Kiiru Namibia is a capitalist society cuba only helped us get independence because no other country would help us
Kikuyu Kiiru im nambian ...I think I know what type of state our government runs under
Emotional indeed unless you weren't there or you were other sight the struggle
Just arrived in Windhoek as am visiting namibia for 2 weeks. Interesting video...
Watching this in 2023 as a born free. Who was taking these pictures and videos?
British media always needed to add a tail to a SA war documentary. Why? Not because of Namibian independence but for selling out the best power the continent of Africa has ever seen
Lmao best oppressor the continent has ever seen
kevin harris is south african,
''but for selling out the best power the continent of Africa has ever seen''
the SADF was an absolute whale of a military... it was a economic drain on apartheid south africa also it was the white south africans who sold them sold themselves out for being racist and stupid enough to launch wars in neighboring african countries to destabilize them (entire border war 1966 to 1989) and to maintain such a evil system for so long.
Is amazing how far Southern Africa has fallen since liberation. Its more of a mess now than its ever been.
I am curious to research if Namibia has done better than South Africa or Zimbabwe since the end of Apartheid?
Yeah SA is toast, and to think it was once a nuclear power. The people should have learned how to run a country before they genocided all the Boers.
Absolutely untrue, the only example would be Zimbabwe, but even SA is better off now than it was under apartheid, and more than half of the problems it has now are due to apartheid policies anyway.
whatever it takes to justify genocide.
blaming whitey? lol.... After 30 years.. of being handed the richest country with the best infrastructure in Africa ? Current SA could not ask for a bigger head start...
I hope you enjoy your freedom.... freedom to blame whitey until SA becomes a 3rd world country
have read a few comments, and it seems, as with most conflicts, people on both sides are defensive.
Most importantly, the question is whether the Namibian path to independence left the country better off, given the track record of liberation movements who form government.
I have not researched this, but have picked up on a story where the Namibian government made it clear to the communists in their ranks looking to create a 2 layer society based on enriching themselves through land grabs etc. That this would start a classical African struggle for power. The idea did not die. Let's hope Namibia stays truly free.
Nope just angry whities mad they can longer oppress
4th May must be remembered indefinitely by both South Africa and Namibian freedom lovers 😢😢😢
Everybody always wants to see things in black or white, good or bad. All too often we forget that all wars are dirty, and both sides often dabble in shades of grey.
Danny Bagg White Supremacist are to blame the created the war.
@@Korey_Salaam Uhm no. Not at all. You are being ignorant and you showcase of having a brainwashed racist mind because you talk about things the original post commenter hasnt even talked about. He didnt question who started it or who did not. He tried to create a peaceful common ground but you refuse that and try to go on with your racist agenda trying to paint white people as generally bad. There were many things playing into the reason to why this war has happened. But you just start looking at it in a black-white manner against which the original post has warned about... very ignorant action.
It was a war to prolong white supremacist rule over Africans end of story.
@@kadiadekapes8163 he meant white supremacists, not white people
@@Korey_Salaam SA could not leave Namibia because of the Cuban troops wanting to swoop up the land making it communist. My mom still had to do drills in school in case of terrorist attack. China was one of the big supporters of the freedom fighters. Look at what happend now 😂. I think apartheid was wrongly ended (not wrongfully though). They should have prepaired atleast 20 years to slowly but surely equalize the races. (Giving equal opportunities etc). You dont even know the chaos that was caused by putting a terrorist on the presidental chair. Also compared to SA the people who where not white where treated far better than in SA (they had electricity and support for businesses in their homelands). However it's good it was ended, yet it ended in the wrong way. So now we are living with the consequences of not planing out the real road to freedom, equality and cultural assimilation. Which is a corrupt government (uses racial tension to distract the people from what they are really doing), we are still dependent on SA for electricity/water /imported food/ money ie(1SAD=1NAD). Our mineral resources are sold to china and Europe by the government . The general attitude is , it's all the white/chinese peoples fault/ we don't need to work /no need to put in an active effort for change.The crime rate is bad. I could go on for hours about the attitude I grew up with but it only makes me more angry and sad. See, there are only very few oreos and many white people/ coloured people giving a darn.
Was called up at 18 for defending SA borders and proud of it. Was trained to be highly qaylified SA soldier and instructor in bush war. If you look at the bigger picture, we have put Namibia in much better position and S A was protected to such a state that no one would attempt to take on S A. All for my family and the future. Proud of it.
Just to add to it, still have the scars and have to live with it, but will do it any day again. Our mission was not to destruct, but make a difference.
Get the therapy you need.
Sir I want to thank you for your service and wish you all the best. May God be with you.
Funny how white South Africans still lie to themselves about the bush war no one was invading you lol. Long Live a Free and Independent Namibia and may Apartheid forever rot in its grave
@@user-vi4su7tl4iof course you would say that racist
Long live SWAPO and his charismatic leader Sam Nujoma! 💖👍🙂 Best wishes from central Romania for all Namibians!🙂💖
What was the significance of Swapo?
@@wraithface4410 Nothing
Proud of me people and thank them for their love and support for freedom
SA never had 100,000 troops in Namibia.
3000 tops
it makes me really happy to see Namibian People free from the evil apartheid
Our members of parliament today need to c this and remember what we fought for. This is nelago sheya former swapo fighter now in Barbados Caribbean island. Let's not bring up ethnicity and tribalism or social segregation which we fought against. NB! Their blood has waters our freedom. Freedom to love one another.
Happy independence to Barbados 🇧🇧
Former SWAPO terr! Living in Barbados? Whats wrong? Was the so called"FREEDOM", that SWAPO promised you not to your liking?
Commie scum, get slotted.
@@tgray505 average Apartheid supporter 💀
@@GambianoBahiano315 Not really. Im just not a supporter of any corrupt communist organization. I must have hit a nerve. Are you a former SWAPO terr living in a totally different country too? Same question to you. Was SWAPO idea of freedom not to your liking?
If I had the power, I would put the biggest and highest theaters in every town in Namibian and play this film everyday just so that maybe this politic leaders that are wasting what our ancestors died for as the Namibian nation, maybe they will come to their senses and for the people of Namibia 🇳🇦 to realise that they have the power and the politicians
I was there 1989
Namibia, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Angola...it seems historically Botswana remained somehow isolated, I'm curious why
there was no economic interest there.botswana is a desert with barely any arabl land.the diamonds were discovered after the british left
botswana is a british protectorate .....
@@tebogotselane952 was
@@vusumuzi_mathumo its still is and has amrican bases there
as far as I know de Beers runs the show there as well
And 20 years after the war, have not acomplished 1 single thing to make the country better.
Stop talking like you don’t know how hypocritical the West has been. Once you lost your 20th century neoslavery, you sabotaged every economy, except those that had your multinationals. Who owns 80% of the fertile land in Namibia? In so disheartening that y’all can be this disingenuous and your fall to point is, look at it now. If you’re not in control, you destroy it. China learnt its lesson, now its threatening the world with its expansion. Who is running the show now?
Rubbish you Pig. Namibia is a great country I was there in 2019, absolutely enjoyed it. The people are happy and great economy.
Namibia is way better of now then it was then nice lies rat
Lmao Namibia is one of the most stable African nations in the modern world and has become far more progressive in regards to civil rights and is very peaceful they’ve accomplished a lot be quiet racist white boy
you are wrong
Kevin Harris, did you get arrested for producing this film back in 1988 ?
I’m from South Africa 🇿🇦 and I feel bad for what my country has done to Namibia 🇳🇦
"What Apartheid White South African GRN" did to Namibia.The ANC an SWAPO were alliances and most who started the revolution were railway workers and students in Cape Town ..who learned alot from the ANC youth league..how to mobilize and tactics..They used that knowledge to wage the same liberation struggle.
Yes ....those are not South African true speaking,they are from Europe. SA and Namibia brother and sister 💪🏽🇿🇦🇳🇦
You also the victim nje...
Your mob didn’t do nothing the SADF were feared now the South African army is a joke
O certo seria gratidão.
Suid Afrika livrou a Namibia do destino de nações destruídas pelo comunismo como Zimbabwe e Moçambique por exemplo.
Bom estaria o Brasil se tivesse tido um aliado desse nível.
And, did life in Namibia get better after the South Africans left?
I'm genuinely asking, because you never hear anything out of Namibia anymore.
The richest people there are Germans and Afrikaners but they did bring some farming and ranching jobs. Also it’s a pretty decent tourist destination from what I read.
We are in a better Shape, nothing was happening in Namibia when SADF ruled Namibia, yall sound like you did put Namibia somewhere, like nill progress except what the Germany left. Within 30 years Namibia has developed more better than In SA era
@@thendarasworld7692 Lies
@@thendarasworld7692, that isn't anything to brag about. South Africa is a basket case.
@@Amanzi379Basket case because it has been that and remember some of laws such those SACU regulations are put in place purposefully to prevent smaller member nations from industrialising.
4"30 "tranquel African lifestyle" you have to be joking..
Just like anywhere asshole
@@reneroux2391 Bull Shit!
You conveniently left out the other half of his sentence...nimrod.
exactly what whites want for us to fight against our own. what low life behavior. I commend the brave young men who chose not to fight against their brothers
But you fight amongst yourselves, even when whites aren't evolved.
@@fakeprofile9502 so do whites
@@fakeprofile9502 it's you whites that seem too start all these problems and trouble and war
Namibia has struggled enough, however we are not free yet. Everyday I see that our struggle still continues.
You are free. Its a constitutiinal democracy. Your mind set is killing you. Free your mind. Communist mind set
How are you not free? Who makes you unfree?
Blacks don’t know what they want,it will always be someone’s else’s fault always blame shifting
Only the rich is free
As a white British South African, I am deeply appalled and ashamed by what the apartheid government did to the black people of Namibia and South African.
I hope that you are as deeply appalled and ashamed by what you British did to the Boer women and children during the British illegal war of 1899-1902.
Why, your people were fighting for their lives! Now, 25 years after, we see the cost of the defeat.
You have obviously, been brainwashed.
@@alandela6330 naw, Mr. Indoutrinated is not taught to have any such sorrow or sympathy for white women and children.
@@leestevens5546 - True, the cost for peace has been too high a price to pay.
@@leestevens5546 nonsense, every problem south africa deals with today can be traced back to NP ruled/aparthied south africa
corruption, high violent crime, poverty and lack of accountability can all be traced back to apartheid.
Hoe nice is daai intro met die Ratels en Caspers.
Angola Namíbia brothers forever viva Namibia! viva Angola! a luta continua a Victoria e certa ! SwAPO was very determined people with figth mentality, even the ladies played the big roll I always appreciated to see them in Angola special the SwAPO ladies truck driver , I know it was hard time for Angola , Namibia and south Africa but I miss it. In addition Namibian are lovely people I miss my Namibian colleges at time of Soviet union.
Point of correction independence was achieved on 21March 1990 not May as documented please,
Much appreciated since a nation without history documented is valueless, thanks for the video recording
Long Live the Namibian Nation...
A very one sided account of events...
And what is the other side? A decade long SA illegal occupation of Namibia.
nikicam2 south africa ran Namibia better than They ever could do themselves
You didn't expect them to tell the entire story did you? Did you really expect them to interview the media handler in Pretoria to challenge what was being said about the SADF? Pretoria lost the war before it was fully waged and they foolishly let the narrative slide against them, this not mentioning DeKlerk being allowed to replace the last true hope anyone in South Africa had.
@@nikicam2 It was never illegal to begin with, that was a smear by the USSR to further their grip on Africa, with Mandela and the other puppets to let them.
@@pieterwillembotha6719 you honesty are one of many white south africans who think you are superior, part of a superior race, just because your skin is white. You are no different to a Nazi.
South Africa must allow extradition of culprits back to Namibia to face justice
Justice from what you bloody imbaseal. Communism was knocking at the door, and you think that is better. You should be washing the feet of the national party and thanking them for building a wall between that and this....
i grew up in pretoria ..i was a teen around bothas presidency ... our songs were always about atrocities in angola, zambia ... the diabolical, repressive tactics used by the sandf in south west africa, were similar to what they did at home ... most of these soldiers are now walking freely, enjoying retirement ... my wish is that they be tried and brought to justice ... no group of people must have the license to be so evil ...
Fool
You are foolish at first and last instance... and this has nothing to do with afrikaans... you are just contributing stupidity to the afrikander nation....you could have easily been an abrasive bum wipe had you been born a paper...
Why is he a fool for wanting justice? Typical white supremist behaviour
Namibia 1988 🇳🇦
Palestine 2024 🇵🇸
Different setting, same story
Nice documentary, and if this is one side of the story, at least we've got one side of the story for now, awaits more. . . About African Countries being 'worse or better off' after the fall of colonization, it also depends on your perception of better, is it better to be a slave and live in a double story house with electricity, or is it better to be free and live in a mud house???Freedom is the key and a starting point.
True
white people in the West are so obsessed with property and consumerism they just can't wrap their head around the idea that someone can refuse nice things to have dignity instead
@@chongli8409
Says an Asian who part of a rising consumer wave in the east! 😂😂😂
I am Russian
Have you ever been a slave? If the answer is no you can stop.
Thanks for showing us these truths.
Bear in mind they go to the South African courts to complain. Apparently the system was still functioning then.
That was only for formality's sake, by which they essentially partook in paper-terrorism (look it up if you don't know what it means), but ultimately took their supposed grievances to the high court at the UN.
Bare in mind that the bear will eat you.. 😆
Kevin Harris
On what authority do you speak about Nam?
The only nonsense you keep hearing from racist sour grapes is that "Africa is worse off now than under colonialism..." or communism this or that. Well, Africa like Europe will have to evolve through mismanagement etc. This is what we wanted, the right to make our own mistakes or to do right. Those who want to live in a well run economy can always migrate to the USA or Europe; or even to China, even we black Africans take this route when we want to. We are a developing community who's development was interfered with by outside greed. A freed slave has the right to destroy everything the master made and to start from scratch. It's just what it is.
"The only nonsense you keep hearing from racist sour grapes is that "Africa is worse off now than under colonialism..."
Well I for one will certainly concede that the above assertions are perhaps deployed a little too eagerly at times but they are technically accurate and far from "nonsense" in many instances I'm afraid.
....Also love the lack of irony with your rather casual suggestion that Africans can just elope to the West en masse if it takes their fancy! As I say, "irony". ;)
@@makara80 If you think that Namibians are by any possible metric of development or infrastructure worse off, then you must be high!
Any metric I can think of is better now: education, health, nutrition, economic size and sophistication, opportunities, infrastructure quality, political stability.
I don't see large numbers of Namibians fleeing their country.
....Speaking of "high" perhaps it would be more constructive to dispute what I _actually_ asserted rather than what you have disengenously decided I said...?
;)
@@makara80 Nothing "disengenuous" or even disingenuous about what can be gleaned from several of your comments.
Have a good day in the middle. ;)
_Very_ "disingenuous" I'm afraid Winston.
However if you're feeling suitably masochistic I'd recommend perusing over your previous comments so that you may enlighten yourself on precisely how you misconstrued my opinion.
....Not that you don't know already of course. ;)
Just in case you genuinely can't figure it out though I'll give you a hint: Namibia _doesn't_ equate to the entirety of Africa.... ;)
Very informative, thanks for posting this.I Noticed how much orange is in the civilian clothing at the end...
This is not a one sided documentary it's a wonderful and good documentary telling people thr truth, and what happened, and today swapo in rulling Namibia and it's one of the safest countries, one of the richest and fast growing economy, and with a very small population tell me if the fight wasn't worth it 🇳🇦❤ and people live with peace and harmony white and black
The objectivity of the documentary is clearly shown on where is Namibia today. Blesses country in harmony.
Very biased documentary, and Namibia isn't on anyone's tourist agenda
Most people from across the world realize that watching this. The only people in the comments saying it's one sided are literal white supremacists and are completely unable to type so much as a sentence without exposing that.
@@dingdong7610 but they are on upper class societies’ investment list
important part of history that needed to be said. the troops on SA side thought they were fighting for a good cause. in their minds it was, they were fighting in a war where the man next to you is your brother. They did not see the bigger picture and they didn't need politics to further cloud their minds. its very important to see this conflict from both sides and choose for yourself what is right. thx for sharing.
Um, operation reindeer was not in 1988 - it was in 1978; I know, I was in it... Easy to check, see wikipedia. Not very good research or fact checking here, what?
documentary made in 1988, no wiki at the time
Somalia sent military trainers and expert to Namibia at least 10 officers from somali army force to support Namibian struggle against south Africa , in order to liberate their own country .
Yes just 10 compared to the thousands that died
How can you blame these people. I was offered a job in SA years ago as a police man. Being white Im glad I never took the job. Oppression and violence. Cut these poor brothers and sisters some slack. Give them freedom
Kieron Bevan WOW. Just when I thought I’d never meet an Afrikaner that would spill his guts feeling the same way as me.
A well massaged account depicting the poor oppressed people. 30 years on we tealise thst. International interests were also dtiving the agendas back then. They promised the naive SA POLITICIANS all sorts of support to buy time in recouping their capital investment in things like diamond mining etc. Uk and American govetnments were heavily immersed in this subterfuge.
You are telling the truth and it's what people fail to believe it's good to know that some white people are not racist 🙏❤ thank you
@@tangiiyambo6419 I Pray one day there will be an end to all war death and suffering.
@@eaglesfan226 I'm sorry to say Paul I'm welsh but being so I do understand oppression. 😁
i find it most distressing to hear of the suffering of the Namibian people!
I WAS SWATF THIS IS BAD WE ALL MADE SHIT A LOST FRIENDS AND YOU CAN WE JUST FORGET AND CARRY ON
fuck off you pig. You were on the wrong side. Better forget
@Thys Potgierter. Proe noggals kak as jy verloor.
There are never winners in war. If you don't love Africa then go to another country. Traumatized people remain. PTSD. I have had the honour of visiting Namibia. I have iron from the desert there.
Angola played a massive role, viva swapo a luta continua a Victoria e certa.
Swapo and the Cubans got an absolute hiding 😂
Naw the Cuban army sent the dickless SADF running back to their hole.
Bob Dillahunty forced hahahaha hahahha 😂😂 that’s cute is that what the Cubans who ran away from Africa told you
Still lost namibia and mpla got angola so...
The SADF was defeated by MPLA @ Cuito Cuanavale.
@Justiceserver1 and still lost in the big picture losing Namibia and Angola while also losing their grip on SA
We will ever be proud of who we are today even though tribalism is taking over among Namibian.
Blacks Original peoples worldwide forever. "So called whities racist, colonizers" = Thieves. Natural Tribal disputes and cooperations has been within Indigenous peoples worldwide, before fakes Adam & Eve. The evils of "so called whites" racism, greed and thieves with their puppets, directly or indirectly everywhere, is the worst problems. Examples of Australia Aborigines, Amerikas Aborigines/Indigenous, Europes Aborigines/Indigenous etc. Currently with religions, Arabs and others inclusive. Factual worldwide true history remains*. Divine Equity/Karma MUST take place in time to restore worldwide Peace. Ise*.
@@Rabekkai Facts!
@@Rabekkai ah karma like george floyd😂😂👏👏
@@schalk_2606 The originators of worldwide evils, colonizers killing thugs, Worldwide apartheid killers and worldwide oppressors MUST get their Karma in due time.
@@Rabekkai You're welcome for bringing you creatures out of the Stone Age. You need to thank your White Saviours.
Watching this leaves one with bitter taste in the mouth 😢😢😢. But the truth Must be told and we must be fully informed as the world.
Strange how some people in the comments section seem to justify the apartheid government and reject international law in terms of the people's right to self-determination and independence.
You have no idea about reality! The treaty the British signed with South Africa and Germany after the British annexed Namibia after the first world war stated that when South Africa give up Namibia, it have to handed back to Germany.
@@andrejacobs7514 the mandate was terminated in 1966 and declared illegal couple years later south africa was not supposed to be there.
I was a "KID"in that time,and have a "Bleeding"disorder,haemophiloa.I dont agree with ALL that HAPPENDBut MANY things are "BLOWN"out of proportion,believe me.Much "WRONG" was also just "HUMAN"nature.I have grown up to see "WRONG"then,and that "SAME"wrong,used to "JUSTIFY" wrong,now.And WHO SUFFERED.PEOPLE,WHITE AND BLACK.I had not much help for my "Condition".Must I now go and Blame the "WORLD"for the "INJUSTICES"
.I am soooo tired of LISTENING to "HOW RACIST"we whites were.Yet,all I wanted was UNDERSTANDING,not "BLAMING"
Lmao stop blaming others for your failures as you human being F off racist
Blimey, the bias oozing from this rather dubious documentary couldn't be more blatant! Yet perhaps it also (unintentionally) provides an insightful contrast against other contemporary films on the Border War of whose sympathies overtly lie with South Africa.
As ever then, the 'truth' is likely to be somewhere in the middle of these two (relative) extremes.
How is it biased, it correctly mentions Apartheid and the oppression Namibians face that made them revolt.
@@toade1583 Cherry picking undeniable, irrefutable facts that I never contested as ‘proof’ of impartiality isn’t a convincing ploy I’m afraid. ;)
@@makara80 for you lot highlighting the crimes your ilk committed against the non whites is always 'cherry picking'.
Theres history and then there's history
Lol, no it doesn't. Apartheid wasn't "half ok." You just have an obvious dog in this fight.
After 32 years. There's now improvement from the Swapo Government of Namibia
"Namibia's occupation was illegal", all was said.
Absolutely appalling that these soldiers were called "South Africans" as if they represented all of us😢😔
To even think their families saw them as "heroes" after such horrendous atrocities.
Thank you for making this. Namibia, land of the brave!
I understand that the unlawful occupation of Namibia was unacceptable. On which legal basis were these young men conscripted?
The world has never tried to give the small white South African minority an assurance of their continued existence on a continent in which minorities don’t matter.
Minorities is a foreign land. They can go back to where their ancestors came from
''The world has never tried to give the small white South African minority an assurance of their continued existence on a continent in which minorities don’t matter''
So what does illegaly occupying namibia, oppressing and carrying out torture and exacutions of its civilians for DECADES has anything to do with the ''assurance'' for the Afrikaners existence, when the native nambians faced genocide DECADES prior by german colonizers ???
the most ridiculous and selfish take i've seen here its absolute nonsense when you consider the historic fact that for decades the west: USA UK Germany gave apartheid south africa backing and apartheid south africa (bastards as they are) did business with the soviet union.
mijn vraag aan mijn south afrikaan broers ... zijn die landen er nou beter van geworden ? denk het niet
Nee
@Mr ed. Daar is veel dinge wat beter geword maar op diselfde tyd is daar veel dinge wat slegte geword het. Die grootste probleem is die kapitaliste wat in beheer van die regering en privaat besigheid is. Hulle het die normale man in die straat marginalseer. Dit maak geen verskil as jy er blanke of nie blanke is nie. Die waarheid is dat die mense op die links en regs is slagoffers van propaganda. Die wenners is die ryk elite klas.
@@louvendran7273the only one who has been brainwashed here is you of course capitalism still harms African nations but Namibia is far better off not under apartheid
They are free now and Namibia and Angola have done great keep crying racist
"Koevoet" was known in South Africa as meaning "Absolute terror and fear". We helplessly read about attrocities done im the dark of the night and newspapers were banned as a result of exposing too much of this.
Amazing documentary!
Who is responsible for this documentry?
Namibia got its independence on 21 March..not may
Philippine K, spot on ! And it's first non-racial democratic presidential election was in November 1989, in preparation for that independence.
In which year?
@@elishadamas4984 1990
So well let me be the first to comment👍❤️
Namibia has its independence, and that's what matters.
In fact Namibians are kind, even that 1% population of whites leaving in Namibia should be gone by now, their presence is an insult to the people who suffered for so long to achieve freedom. God Bless Namibia.
I agree with the first part and glad that Namibia has its independence. But I do not agree that the white Namibians living in Namibia should be gone and that it is an insult to others that they are not gone by now. What is wrong with you? Do you not realize that you are being racist? White Namibians have just as much right to live in Namibia as black Namibians if you do agree then in your opinion then freedom should only apply to black Namibians and not white Namibians thus you're asking for Namibia to be just like Apartheid South Africa that oppresses others based on race. That is a disgusting opinion and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Henry ow Namibians love people no matter where they are from the whites that live here are Namibian the past is forgiven
What their white ancestors did was wrong, but that does not mean their innocent descendants have to suffer for it, it won't make us anymore better than them.
Namibia's next colonial masters will be the Chinese.
That's based on racist stereotypes. Just because their buying land doesn't mean that their gonna colonize us. Maybe if they setup a military base in every country then I would think that.Btw Antarctica, he continent in our hemisphere doesn't belong to anyone but if it did it wouldn't go to the southern hemisphere countries.
Therefore there shud be no division among us now btwn war veterans and those who were in the country. Please there shud be peace.
This is quite a biased documentary, making out that only the South African army was at fault.
I like how it is outlined...
There are so many false info in this video i stopped 7minutes in
Such as?
“Your argument hurts my feelings so it’s wrong”
Your uncle probably got his body evaporated by one of these dudes so now your salty
Never mind your right it’s all a lie long live the koevoet
Wat het al die mense bygedra tot die vooruit van namibia
colonial masters should pay for the crime they committed.
more people have to see this video
It seems to me that all these so called freedom movements in most african countries have led to the total decline of the African continent. I am just an observer from far away (Canada). But Africa used to be a thriving,yes under Colonial rule but thriving. I would like to ask, say the people of Zimbabwe if life was better in Rhodesia compared to life under Mugabe. I am not some white power racist. It just looks like nothing has been built or developed since Colonial powers have left.
MrBubbydoo Go and do research on Namibia and you will know that Namibia is much better after its independence
MrBubbydoo the problem is that you are observing from another continent. How about you step away from your computer screen and come and find out. Namibia is thriving since independence. And this is all thanks to our freedom fighters.
Your a idiot and everything you said is so false
MrBubbydoo are u a fucking racist!!!
China is Africa's next master.
God Bless Namibia ❤❤❤
Name one country that got better once ruled by black majority after throwing off the "yolk of white rule." I'm actually curious cause I can't think of any.
Michael van de Top Botswana, Namibia, Barbados
inexception of the herero genocide we were better off with the Germans,by now we'd probably be more developed like or more than South Africa
Lukay luigi are you Namibian
Greentiger_420 yes
Greentiger_420 by birth right
Wow hope things are beter after 25 jr
wee live in sandy houses because the black man must rull us comrades
what are you doing in black countries. Stop imposing yourself in africa. God gave you europe
@@janeulo4388 same thing black people are doing in Europe.
@@VALDIGNE you have no shame 🙏 god help you
@@tangiiyambo6419 shame ? you want no white people in your country while your people are invading my country ? you got some nerves!
@@VALDIGNEblacks for Africa and whites for Europeans. We don’t want whites here.
It seemed impossible in 1988, and yet it was a done thing by 1991...
nemani swap Ile Omwati olye awalye ne mbulu danasho kapena mbela eyoloko kaa shapo eyolokoo osheshii nee mwati ilya oilumbu mala amushe vamwe ike tangii unene
my message was canceled in one second, No more youtube,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
omitted at the very begining (between German annexation and League of Nations mandate) was that SA acquired South West via military conquest at the start of the 1st World War..
then it says 100,000 SA troops in SWA! are you kidding SADF was never more than 80,000 tops and not all of those were in SWA
80,000 is close to 100,000
Welkom by die kaplyn my vriend
Ons vir jou Suid-Afrika!
Hahahahha
Suid-Africa se Ma se poes kont
I beg your pardon, Zambia is superpower in this. Zambia has liberated Southern Africa, bravo 'Kaunda'.
Is it free now!
Where are you 2 illeterate morons from?that is my country you are talking about
@Delon Duvenage back then we had nothing to fight your German uncles with.let them try
@@ebsonebby9735 Congratulations you can spell your name.
@Delon Duvenage all those with your type of thoughts are dead man
@Delon Duvenage do you even know why the Germans chose to colonise my country back then?
Who knows the title of the song playing from 3:24 to 4:08?? Appreciate
Kevin, thank you so much for putting your propaganda online for free!
Volkstaat moment?
@@אלכסנדרהברעקוסטי jewish moment?
@@jasondehideniya879 but then the poor and starving blacks would be lining up around the state to get a job.
@@jasondehideniya879 any white state should be created out of Africa. We shall fight for every bit of the black African soil. Look what happened to American natives, or the Australian aboriginals, we shall not be next
@@pieterwillembotha6719 isn't that what you whites are doing right now? 💀
100 000 South African troops? Gracious, the whole army plus the navy, airforce and girl guides...... Old wokism