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Planning an army | WARHAMMER AGE of SIGMAR | SLAVES TO DARKNESS | The Value of TEST MODELS
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Sometimes things don't always go to plan, and that's OK! Henry goes through how he works out a scheme for an army, and talks about an upcoming project that you can join in with!
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Hey man, regardless of whether some people felt the scheme was a tad unfinished we still appreciate the quality of your tutorials, I've learnt so much more from cult of paint for really quality army painting which many channels don't seem to quite get so just wanted to say thanks!
Thanks bud. I think it’s important to show when things don’t work sometimes.
@@cultofpaint Exactly and coming up with schemes is so hard sometimes, as it can change so quickly how you feel about an idea once finished but I honestly really dig the scheme, you could go through an army quickly with that, I think if the trim had maybe some more surface damage like scratches or metal shining through it would be an army scheme I'd be very happy with. I can just imagine those chaos knights having marched through dusty ashy wastelands for days or weeks
I think burgundy or black trim would make this scheme work really well, especially if you do the ones you’ve not done that colour and leave some of the gold ones in as brass. I think at the moment the values are all quite close across the model and the dark black will help bring the metallics out more. I love that grey though, totally might have to steal that for mine as ive hummed and ha-d for a while over a more neutral colour i could run as undivided/any mark.
I absolutely love this, this has inspired me to do my own StD army
So glad you're doing this. I just got back into Warhammer for the first time since I was a kid. I'm painting my first army, votann, using most of the methods from your votann video. Chaos are my choice for AoS and I will be using your stuff as a guide. Thank you!
Hah amazing! Welcome back to the hobby.
Really enjoyed the breakdown of your opinions at the end, really helped me understand why I have problems with test models (also going for 120% instead of 80% probably doesn't help)
Thanks Finlay. Yeah testers can be a real trap if you’re not careful!
You comments about painting the wraps are super relatable.
the worst right!
@@cultofpaint Kills me every time.
Another high quality-video from the guru of achiveable paint-schemes! Imo your tutorials always make sense and once more I got that "maybe just one more army, i can complete it this time!"- feeling
Don't worry about any " not enough contrast here or there" or "maybe this or that colour instead" comments... one can ALWAYS do more or different things.
One of your strenghts is thst you know how to come up with good recepies and know when to call it done. Thanks for the vids!
Thanks Stefan. I'm determined to make this one work. "maybe just one more army....."
@@cultofpaint I was refering to myself actually. It was hard for me not to start an eldar army after those videos, and here we are again. The new chaos sculpts look amazing
Count me in! Loads of chaos ready to paint already
New chosen look fantastic, particularly in this scheme, great job Henry
Right there with you! I got a Be'Lakor sitting around waiting to have an AoS army build around him (originally got him for 40k)
A great centrepiece mini isn't he
@@cultofpaint Absolutely! And a great challenge for any painter.
This is some useful stuff as I embark on a similar project (knights are so good in the new book and I want to run 20). However, I wanted to specifically shout out how much I appreciate you posting something you felt didn't work (including the autopsy, as it were); it's very easy to consume tons of tutorials and finished works and get into your head that the pros get everything right on the first try, and then start doubting yourself when that's not what happens. It's a process, and videos like this help peel back the curtain.
I look forward to seeing this project develop!
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I’m glad it’s been useful for people. And it’s certainly motivated me to fix it!
The silver swap for brass is a good idea I think. Silver and grey can work and give you that harmony, and the brass can be just the little pop of contrast. All around great paint job! I love it!
I think that’s the direction I’m going to go. That and lighten the grey up a fair whack.
I too usually fail with weapon haft wraps for the very same reasons you mentioned!
I agree that it’s worth painting all the trim…
Planning phases vid's are always appreciated!
It was great to hear your test model process and thoughts. I quite like the dark on dark look of the plate armour.
Thanks. It's a cool colour for a dark grey.
"Be a right giggle". You brits are something.
Hmmm this and world eaters equals parts for the kitbash god bits for the bits box throne
I reckon Khorne themed Slaves to Darkness would look amazing.
Very hyped for this project!
I need that hype!
I honestly loved the scheme, but looking forward to seeing how you tweak it! Hope you get a chance to do the Daemon Prince as an AP+ video, the Be'lakor theme is so cool
Love that DP mini
I had the idea to make a scheme inspired by the champion of Leagues of Legend called Mordekaiser, and this verdigris with dark metal could do the job :) Thx for this sharing
Verdigris and a really dark iron colour would look sweet!
This is lovely. Really well done indeed.
Agreed
I love these type of videos! I’ve wanted to get into AoS for a while but 40k always has so many armies and projects that I’d rather do. It’s a tough one, slaves for darkness are maybe my favourite faction but they’re also my cousin’s favourite haha.
After watching I now really want to do slaves to darkness lol
I know what you mean about both systems having a ton of appealing projects in them. Also do Slaves!
I think I will, probably gonna get the army box
Looking forward to seeing more CHAOS
Me too!
That's a great paint job, I really like how it's turned out.
So much better than anything I can bang out👍
Thanks Eric. Just keep at it, there's so many decent products and tutorials out there now.
Glad you gotten the new box set, they are pretty big boys this time.
He Looks Like the Lichking with the vertigri
Oh yeah!
Looks great, Henry. I'm looking to do a very similar scheme on my World Eaters - grey and brass - and this has helped a lot. I'm using the exact same S75 Decayed Metal and Citadel Runelord Brass for the metals. I decided early on that I really want to go in on using oil paints with filtering for my army, so picked up a fair few Abteilung paints for it - Bitume, Light Rust, Dark Rust, Dark Grey as well as the full Naval and Grey Effects set. I'd love to see you use some oil paints for this army as I'm struggling to get the effects I want at the moment and you using a similar scheme would help me out so much!
Hi Jake, I think bringing some more oils in and doing all the trim will be the key changes for me.
@@cultofpaint Great to hear - can't wait to see it. As an additional question, I've been looking at painting my Rhino in a similar scheme. Is it possible to use chipping techniques/hacks (medium, salt, etc.) when you're painting the vehicle in oils, or do you need to manually paint the chips on?
I feel like the weapon head and the chainmail could use some more contrast (mostly of value, but maybe of hue as well).
I really want this vox but I've promised myself to not buy anymore minis for a while. Also, I love where you're taking this. Excited to see where it goes.
Good on you getting stuff done rather than buying more, something I'm trying to do as well.
Subbed! Please share more of your slaves :)
With my Be'lakor the fabric on him I use that color to paint my army. So most of my army is like a purplish color with black and gold highlights and a little bit of red
Nice!
I think the gray looks nice , but maybe the trim you can do burgundy ? I think that would look nice too.
I had not considered burgundy trim. That has to be worth a try!
i feel like the left arm could do with more contrast to frame the shapes or some select bits of the trim picked out in another colour maybe, although it's hard to judge these things from a video sometimes.
Nah you're right. Someone suggested perhaps Burgundy on the shoulders, I'm tempted to give that a whirl.
@@cultofpaint that might work, or just a lighter chipping colour on the hard edges might do it
I like it. I think the oxidation of the gold/silver is a bit too much to be all over the gold pieces. And all your points of contention I agree with. I think it looks good.
I really appreciate this filmed experiment/test video!! Great thoughtful content. I don’t feel that I am as bad at self criticism anymore😂. I liked all your suggested ideas of how you might do it differently. My general feeling is it is just too muted and missing that pop! Maybe it’s just it’s 80 to 90 %. You would know best. All your ideas should address that muted thing and I guess it’s about in what direction you want to make that happen!! Thanks for all that you guys do!!!
Thanks for the support. I’ve been plotting how to remedy it all day today.
As always, very well executed, I love your videos ! I'm not a big fan of the color scheme for this one though, but i don't realy understand why ... i kinda feel like the mat armor makes it look more like a chaos space marines than a chaos warrior from AOS 🤔
Yeah, it’s just not fantasy enough.
What step is being done here? Vanishing? 00:05:17
I kinda like the effect of the verdigris. But not sure it look like verdigris more like some kind of magical effect
Yeah, that’s why I wondered if it may work well on the ensorcelled weapons rather than the trim.
I like tha base very much. Maybe you can make a tutorial over it. It's nice flat, but with various colours in it.
Im curious of the bluish paint you use on the gold/brass ? Love the look!
I'd love to see your take on some marauders/darkoath savagers/marauder horsemen. I know you said your list is almost all armored, but I struggle to find decent tutorials online for the barbarian hordes in the same Chaos Undivided style.
so I know i'm 6 months late... but I just picked up my first ever warhammer set, and it was this exact set...
never assembled any models before (I think I may have assembled a single gundam like 20 years ago) never painted any models before either.
so we will see how it goes.
wonder if we'll ever get an update video showcasing this army
also whatever happened with andys sons of horus?
I dont get why you would do the oil wash, but then waste time pinwashing later... your oil wash can be both unifying and fill the recesses, you just have to apply/reduce it a little differently
I cant see the linked verdigris video, im really interested. Sadly it isnt there for me :(
Hmm not sure why, it's showing up on mine. I've added the link in the description for you.
What color would be closest to the 502 smoke color paint as far as Vallejo or Citadel goes?
Great video. Which air brush do you prefer for beginners the infinity or evolution ?
Both as easy to use as each other. It’s entirely down to budget.
Great stuff! Looking forward to trying out your way of doing the brass rims / decorations. Which Runelord Brass do you use - the "Base" or the "Layer"-Version? I'm not really aware of which formular it was you mentioned changing last year...
Cheers!
It’s the one with the white lid.
@@cultofpaint Should be the "Base" version then - which I happen to have :P
Thanks!
IMO I think there's also an imbalance of burgundy; there's a lot of burgundy below the waist and not much above although that could just be because of the pose. I wonder how good it would look to have one shoulder pad with burgundy on it or would it teeter into more slaaneshi-marked chosen.
If he’d had a top knot it would have balanced nice. But it did bug me only have the 2 points of it.
what's the difference between oil and enamel washing? Obviously they are different substances, but how do they differ in the result? It's something that i've always found a bit confusing...
I think you get a “dustier” finish with enamels. On the whole I prefer it. But then I’ll often use both on a mini.
Just out of curiosity what would be a good stand in for the decayed metal base before the runelord?
You could mix some brown into leadbelcher
Is the basing method the same as the one in your earlier basing video?
Yes.
This is a cool paintjob but it looks a bit unfinished to me with all the trim completely missing
I appreciate some people don't like shame coloured trim. For me it's a look I prefer on the whole. But I think the armour went too dark after that last wash, which hasn't helped. As I said in the video I may ry another where I paint all the trim in the same colour as the weapon.
@@cultofpaint i really love the look of the same coloured armor and trim, I haven't seen it before but I think it really makes the model stand out because of it
@@cultofpaint i see, i hope you share the new test results :)
Oh no henry has fallen to chaos, today is a sad day. Time to hunt the heretics down on the table top!
Think I fell about 30 years ago!
I honestly think verdigris is overrated from an aesthetic point of view, specially because the way you do it its lacks textures. And like rust its a corrosion and should dmg the affected areas.
Rust and Verdigris can't be skiped by applying oil washes, they have to be properly modeled before the painting stage to look good..