One day, and it is possible. The human race will look at the Mona Lisa and say, "she should have been drawn in anime style" Thats how I feel when contemporary youtubers look back at tomb raider with modern game design sensibilities at the forefront of their minds.
Not sure if I completely understood your comment. Comparing games and art doesn't make much sense to me. In art you have different styles and that's it. In games you have style but also evolution. With the technology of today you can do things that couldn’t before and improve it, I' not even talking about changing. This is an opportunity to improve. If they added things like photo mode with all the outfits what's the problem with adding other things that don't change or affect the main game? They already created modern controls, so one of their objectives was getting new fans.
@@Ariquel I don't agree with your use of the word "evolution" in this context. I would instead say "change" to describe the shift - i.e. Art changes over time and Games as an Art medium, undergoes changes over time. I dont think you can say games have evolved, that is, if you call better graphics and more open and empty worlds progress, than you can call it evolution. Hence my Mona Lisa analogy. Our tastes in art change, but some works of art stand timeless. And that is how I view Tomb Raider. It is timeless, and it wouldn't add value if we apply modern game mechanics into it.
The internet is so big now, that there’ll always be someone who complaints about trivial shit that doesn’t matter, like Pierre’s jacket. Back when the games first released, there was barely any internet, so these vocal minorities wouldn’t even be noticed. I think it’s something people forget when they mention how people didn’t used to complain about things like they do now. I was a bit bothered by the lack of cutscenes in those expansions, or even no changes made to those in the main games, like how the guards in Area 51 remark on Lara wearing hot pants when she wasn’t. But I suppose that’s just not what remasters are for. It falls on remakes to change that stuff.
I totally agree. If they add new scenes, it's like making a remake. But just fixing up the cutscenes is more like a remaster, right? Like in the Crash Bandicoot games, they mainly made the graphics and cutscenes look better. But with Resident Evil 4 remake, they changed a lot more, like the gameplay, locations, and even the cutscenes.
One thing that also left me disapointed was the character models in the FMVs not corresponding with the new Remastered Graphics and also being too Dark, the image had better quality but the framerate pacing needs a patch fix ASAP🤔
It's a remaster not a remake and it's pretty much perfect, camera problems? Then people should play with tank controls it give much more control. I'm glad they haven't put extra bs and modern chit in it
I know, I think the only thing that I mentioned that could be considered as remake would be the cutscenes in the expansions. When I mentioned extras I wanted to say things like outfit selection, option to see cutscenes, level selection. If they added the photomode with the outfits, modern controls and esclamation points, what's the problem of adding stuff like that? I do prefer the tank controls, but if things were added they should work.
I’m so glad you mentioned the fact that they didn’t include statistics for the number of enemies in a level, it makes getting the trophy where you have to kill all the enemies incredibly annoying! It’s also irritating that the all pick ups trophy is glitched so no one can get it. Other than those complaints I’m having a great time with the remasters though :).
I didn't know about that glitch, I hope they fix it soon :/ I already know that I will not get that one where you need to kill all enemies because a bat would not trigger in the colosseum. These are minor things, that's why I'm still having fun. Specially with photo mode :)
I'm not sure, but I don't think the All Pickups Trophy itself is glitched, but one of the items in the Atlantis level is positioned in such a way that it is impossible to pick it up. This was fixed in the Epic Games Store version.
Small keys (if YOU choose not to use the exclamation marks) and crap "modern" controls, if YOU choose not to use tank controls. That's about it. These are EXCELLENT remasters and worth every penny.
This game desperately need a patch. I’m so disappointed when the Sphinx Statues didn’t render in the modern graphics mode. The one that comes alive just appeared out of nowhere. Not to mention all the keys you can only see in Classic graphics.
I quite happy with this, Lara is actual Lara.I can overlook the issues since finally is the actual Lara! The modem control are kinda messed up but with some effort I can somewhat get it to work tho I still rather use tank controls for now. I do hope that gets fixed in the next patch. Crystal dynamic warning is just garbage, it might not even be referring to anything at all. They are envious of the actual Tomb Raider thus showing how lame and not talented their are. Crystal Dynamic keep ruining Lara expecially with that new Table top garbage. And tried to make Lara more ugly a weaker...
I Ariquel, it's never too late to comment on something, the proof of that is even today still so many of us make comments and our own Reviews of games and Movies from the 90s or early 00s we never played, it's just an example, so never lose your enthusiasm about doing things because of that non existent factor
i am playing the first game on new game plus, its interesting, because you have to manage your ammo and combat tactics way more, it only gets frustrating if you want the more difficult secrets because you ant save it where you like, i would only do new game plus on the first game though, on 2 or 3 forget about it
Most of the people complaining about Pierre's Jacket are the same people who have said "Why didn't they just remake these games?" They're not the audience and they're not playing the game, we are. It's literally just people complaining for the sake of complaning. Other than that I do agree with most of your opinions other than trying to introduce a modern audience to the game with autosaves, I think theres better ways to do it.
2:37 For the first hour I was literally just pushing every key to see what happened 😆 They told us Photomode was on key P, and never even said anything about the OG graphics toggle key.
What i think the Remasters needed most was a Update patch to fix the bad framerate pacing in the FMV, it's worse than the OG version than i remember in my opinion, hope they launch a patch soon🤔
I love that they included old flaws of the game too. It doesn’t need modernization much, but it did need the graphic update to not hurt eyes. It is also fun comparison how the games were still engaging in olden times. The only reason I haven’t played the tomb raider in years is the graphics meant for tube televisions only. It is simply too bad. But I am really disappointed they added new bugs too, modern controls are appalling and the most people quit who don’t want to learn the original controls of the game. The camera is simply too glitchy in modern controls. Also in venice there is a game breaking bug, the timed door doesn’t work properly and the main puzzle is ruined where you must drive fast by a boat through venice. The more modern Tomb raider anniversary did everything poorly and it was really bad remake and didn’t feel at all the original. I found myself bored playing that game. Strangely it doesn’t happen with originals. They might be too frustrating but never boring. The game is so old that it should be treated as relic and it got more repect to the originals than any other game.😎
I just started TR1 and heard about the camera in modern controls and thought "eh, how bad can it be?" I made it to almost the end of Vilcabamba before getting so irritated I had to switch to the trusty tank controls that I'm used to. I'll probably stick with that since that's how I played the originals. If something gets patched and improved I might try again. I'm also thinking ahead to the more tricky jump sequences and I don't see how they'll be possible with the modern controls, but I assume there must be a way otherwise they wouldn't be in the game.
As a remaster it is very well done, and I thank the game developers for their work. However, I don't understand why the water graphics are so bland; all the surface textures are identical as far as I can tell - translucent like shed skin instead of smooth and glistening like flowing glass - with no realistic shine or ripple physics. This should've been really straightforward, being for PS4/5 consoles, plus the fact that it doesn't affect the original level design. Honestly, I would buy the game for upgraded water.
Agree 100% on the water. I don't think it looks bad, just very underwhelming. I do miss the look of rain causing ripples on the water in TR3 and the wavey oscillation of the water and mud surfaces are now gone.
I completed Tomb Raider 1 and 2 so far, and having never played the originals I can see now why people idolize these games so much: they truly kick ass. Blowing up yetis with a grenade launcher: it's the kind of absurd fun that you don't find in games anymore. The modern controls I think haven't even been playtested: while I did play these games with modern controls because in the end they suited me much more there are a lot of problems with them: in this control system the camera is the rudder that steers Lara: so we should have total control over it all the time. Yet the game sometimes takes control of the camera itself, making Lara fly off in a direction she isn't supposed to, or it doesn't allow for the camera to be placed behind Lara when she's standing with her back to a wall, and in a tight space this is becoming ever more of a problem. And then there are the vehicles that can't even be exited or accelerated in the modern controls, making me constantly having to switch between tank and modern controls... These things have to be fixed in a patch because in their current state they're unacceptable. The controversy about the starting message is a bit overblown in my opinion: while I don't appreciate Crystal Dynamics preaching their moral values to me I realize they could have made all the changes they wanted but they didn't. They could have changed all the gorillas and tigers that Lara has to kill in Trump voters but they didn't. They could have deflated her boobs to the size of mosquito bites but they didn't, they could have changed her into a black gay transsexual activist but they didn't. All they did was put a disclaimer at the beginning that can be easily ignored, so lets be thankful that that's all. Anyway, this was the first time in more than a decade that I was excited about a new Tomb Raider game, and there were several moments during playing sessions that I looked at the time and saw that it was 3 'o clock in the morning already, so can't say I didn't enjoy these games.
I know, I think the only thing that I mentioned that could be considered as remake would be the cutscenes in the expansions. When I mentioned extras I wanted to say things like outfit selection, option to see cutscenes, level selection. If they added the photomode with the outfits, modern controls and esclamation points, what's the problem of adding stuff like that?
@@Ariquel they are targeting people like me that played the games when they came out originally. It is nice that they only redid the graphics and slight enhancements to playability in the first one but people like me just want to be able to play them again. We don't want remakes.
@@artpereira If the original fans were the only targets they wouldn't bother creating modern controls. They are trying to reach old and new fans. Of the things I mentioned nothing would change the experience that you already have, they could be options just like modern controls are.
@@Ariquel the kept the original controls. of course they want as many people to play it but the reason they kept the game untouched and kept original controls is for the OG fans. I would absolutely hate if they made any considerable changes because I just want to play the games again. I don't want any changes. so they did it right
very nice video overall its amazing remaster but it need to be polished. the things you pointed out i totally agree. I think developers just had little time and they did best thez could . Now lets wait for patch that coming soon. BTW NGplus shoud have name nightmare zou totallz right.
@@Ariquel I don't think so as the outfit swap they just edited the file to not switch back to the normal outfit when you exit photomode. I've still been getting all the weird achievements even full outfit swaps.
I definitely am disappointed in the remasters. Like you mentioned at the end, they really did change a bunch of stuff but claimed they didn't. That ended up bothering me a lot. It's no longer preservation or restoration at this point. Instead I now see this collection as just a bad variant of these games. So many visual oddities, things uselessly changed for no good reason, and even some game mechanics that come across more broken now than they did back in the 90s. Needless to say, I'm sad I didn't end up loving them the way I expected to. I was hyping up and supporting them for the 5 months leading up to release, just to open the games and feel let down. In 2024, I can barely see how that's excusable. But regardless, the original versions still exist and are available to buy easily, so I'll continue to play them the original way. Besides, those are the versions I fell in love with in the first place, so there's no loss in that.
I think having some of the trophies/achievements be bugged (e.g. all pickups in TR1) so they cannot be obtained until a patch comes out is completely inexcusable. A lot of fans are very familiar with these games and are likely to be starting off going for the trophies/achievements as a new way of playing. Also not having a level select mode after completion is pretty bad.
I think criticism is always welcome, you'll never find anything that everyone is completely in agreement on. I have to imagine the budget for this remaster was pretty low, we know the core developers on the project were modders from the community so there was probably more passion behind it than money :P, that's not to say it looks cheap they did a thorough and impressive job. There are a few new features, but adding even more features or stretching the budget to remake FMV's was just beyond the scale of this project, due to the remasters running on the original game engine there were limits too, so despite the few issues i really believe this is the best remastering possible for these games. We've had a bit of a preview of future updates thanks to the Epic build of the game, though i don't know how far the devs will be allowed to take it since the Saber split, but i really hope they get to continue on this and further games, fingers crossed.
Funny inconsistency. I recently completed the Lara Croft remaster, as well as Tomb Raider: Anniversary, but I’ll talk about the first game. In the first part of the game, Lara meets Larson in the cutscene and offers to work for Natla. In the same part, Pierre and Larson die. Now let's remember the fifth part, Chronicles. The action takes place BEFORE the first part of the game, and our heroes are trying to make a deal, after which Larson is wounded and burned by a three-headed snake (and he most likely survives, because his body is gone afterwards), and Pierre falls, and makes such a sound that he clearly could not survive (if Lara falls, she will not survive). So, these guys have a conflict with Lara as a result. Then my question is logical...How did Lara agree to talk with Larson (at the beginning of the first part of the game, in the intro) and why are there no old grievances, etc.? Why doesn’t Lara see the catch, that these two will deceive her again? In addition, Lara's character in Chronicles, in Rome...is more cruel, since Lara lets Pierre fall and she has no feelings of guilt, while in the first part of the game, Lara feels guilty for Larson's death.
What I find disappointing is that the censored Pierre's jacket even in the original. It's fine in the remaster but if they truly respected the original developers of the games they wouldn't have done that. They also removed the blood when the Trex kills you in the remaster. I knew they couldn't leave everything alone.
Yeah, I think they should have let the original how it is, since they said they didn't change things. I didn't notice the T-Rex blood. It doesn't make sense to remove that since we still see blood when Lara is attacked.
Thw one thing that makes for a worse experience is shadows. The whole game is too bright. You can see far ahead in the distance when in the original it was pitch black and grafually came to light as you get closer. Also there is no use for flares as they have given a light sources to every dark room and corridor . Another significant downgrade is the addition of rooftop openings. Destroys immersion as youn had the impression you were getting deeper underground in the original.Now you see its not the case in remastered. Flickering light from fires and torches is now stable and illuminates.Another downgrade. Water some times cannot be seen from a distance. Same thing when underwater. You cannot distinguish the surface any more. In other instances, sprites representing water flow now have been removed. Clasical example in TRII Temple of Xian. The water no more rushes ashore. It is plain still on the surface. Changes like thes that have me wondering what were they thinking...Often times i find myself playing in old graphics (and lower frame rate) as it feels more satisfying an experience, only to changebto new graphs just to see what they did with the remastered. Oldschool graphics is my verdict.
Honestly, the people losing their minds over minor stuff like Pierre's jacket in the first game or the trigger warning that's on screen for 1 second probably don't have a lot going on with their lives.. worst case scenario they are just outrage farmers that don't even play the games.. it is INSANE that such a minor thing has poisoned the discource around these games so much to the point where I can't even search for TR Remaster content without that shit popping up. As someone who grew up with these games with the whole family coming together to solve them back in the 90s, I think the trigger warning is at the very least warranted considering there's quite a few things that would surely not pass with today's audiences.. especially when you just casually shoot black people in TR3, cannibals or not and a lot of depictions of cultures other than British are very caricature-ish.. though granted Lara herself is sort of a cartoon anyway. It's a complex issue and it's better to have a split second warning about it rather than having to deal with it since if they changed the source material it'd be WAY worse.
Yeah, it's a complex issue, and I can see where both sides are coming from. Personally, I believe there should be a clear distinction between games and reality. Nobody seems to care that she kills people and animals in the games. But I guess it's how things are now. I'm happy that they didn't make radical changes.
@@Ariquel Honestly, since the games are basically unchanged barring minor aesthetic changes (usually for the better, loved all that foliage!), I'm as happy as could be! I think they need a patch or two to be perfect, but I'm beyond extatic these games are getting preserved like this. Just wish more people would talk about how good they are instead of their weird fixation on political outrage really.
I'm a bit disappointed with game industry in general. I dont know how it is in the background, but games feel like they are made too quick and only to meet an objetive, feels like raw capitalism instead of making games with spirit and motivation too. If the persons that remastered them would love it, the wouldn't let pass that dark and hardly visible places you mention. For me this constrast radically with Tomb Raider Anniversary for example.
Yeah, there are still a few good games, but it's not like it was in the early days. Back then, we had a variety of games that we don't have now. I remember watching an interview with the developers of the first Tomb Raiders on Ash's Channel, where they mentioned how lucky they were to work on games during that era because they had more creative freedom.
It happens because of consumers behaving like consumers , with phrases like ‘take my money ‘ Which leads to cutting corners , cutting out dlc’s which should be in the base game , filled with microtransactions …. You’d ever think R* and take two would ever get away with that online shit they are doing now , if they would try it 17 years ago ? No , it would have bombed and would still see huge expansions , it was because the”gaming community “ put their money where their mouth was at … also the moment , people in suits entered the bussiness a lot of went spiraling down …. Drawing lots of people that are only interested in it to make huge profits instead of letting artists make their craft and hone their skills …. It’s simple , everything gets watered down for profits …
It was bound to happen when the industry got really big and profitable. It is run like any other big company in any other area, be it movies, food etc Creativity and bravery get lost.Investors don't want risk making. And artistic vision gets lost.
As I said in the video, I personally have no problem, I mentioned it as a problem for new fans, and that they are also important for the future of the series. These are things can be improved since now they can update games.
One day, and it is possible. The human race will look at the Mona Lisa and say, "she should have been drawn in anime style" Thats how I feel when contemporary youtubers look back at tomb raider with modern game design sensibilities at the forefront of their minds.
Not sure if I completely understood your comment. Comparing games and art doesn't make much sense to me. In art you have different styles and that's it. In games you have style but also evolution. With the technology of today you can do things that couldn’t before and improve it, I' not even talking about changing. This is an opportunity to improve. If they added things like photo mode with all the outfits what's the problem with adding other things that don't change or affect the main game? They already created modern controls, so one of their objectives was getting new fans.
@@Ariquel I don't agree with your use of the word "evolution" in this context. I would instead say "change" to describe the shift - i.e. Art changes over time and Games as an Art medium, undergoes changes over time.
I dont think you can say games have evolved, that is, if you call better graphics and more open and empty worlds progress, than you can call it evolution.
Hence my Mona Lisa analogy. Our tastes in art change, but some works of art stand timeless. And that is how I view Tomb Raider. It is timeless, and it wouldn't add value if we apply modern game mechanics into it.
The internet is so big now, that there’ll always be someone who complaints about trivial shit that doesn’t matter, like Pierre’s jacket. Back when the games first released, there was barely any internet, so these vocal minorities wouldn’t even be noticed. I think it’s something people forget when they mention how people didn’t used to complain about things like they do now.
I was a bit bothered by the lack of cutscenes in those expansions, or even no changes made to those in the main games, like how the guards in Area 51 remark on Lara wearing hot pants when she wasn’t. But I suppose that’s just not what remasters are for. It falls on remakes to change that stuff.
I totally agree. If they add new scenes, it's like making a remake. But just fixing up the cutscenes is more like a remaster, right? Like in the Crash Bandicoot games, they mainly made the graphics and cutscenes look better. But with Resident Evil 4 remake, they changed a lot more, like the gameplay, locations, and even the cutscenes.
@@Ariquel Yeah, I would have liked the FMV sequences to be improved. They at least got subtitles.
Something funny about the Photo mode is like Lara have a Drone to scout the area for enemies, items etc, so this make the game much easier xD.
Good idea! I hadn't thought of using it like that 😂
It also sheds light on spawning patterns of enemies/obstacles
One thing that also left me disapointed was the character models in the FMVs not corresponding with the new Remastered Graphics and also being too Dark, the image had better quality but the framerate pacing needs a patch fix ASAP🤔
It's a remaster not a remake and it's pretty much perfect, camera problems? Then people should play with tank controls it give much more control.
I'm glad they haven't put extra bs and modern chit in it
I know, I think the only thing that I mentioned that could be considered as remake would be the cutscenes in the expansions. When I mentioned extras I wanted to say things like outfit selection, option to see cutscenes, level selection. If they added the photomode with the outfits, modern controls and esclamation points, what's the problem of adding stuff like that?
I do prefer the tank controls, but if things were added they should work.
I’m so glad you mentioned the fact that they didn’t include statistics for the number of enemies in a level, it makes getting the trophy where you have to kill all the enemies incredibly annoying! It’s also irritating that the all pick ups trophy is glitched so no one can get it. Other than those complaints I’m having a great time with the remasters though :).
I didn't know about that glitch, I hope they fix it soon :/ I already know that I will not get that one where you need to kill all enemies because a bat would not trigger in the colosseum. These are minor things, that's why I'm still having fun. Specially with photo mode :)
I'm not sure, but I don't think the All Pickups Trophy itself is glitched, but one of the items in the Atlantis level is positioned in such a way that it is impossible to pick it up. This was fixed in the Epic Games Store version.
Small keys (if YOU choose not to use the exclamation marks) and crap "modern" controls, if YOU choose not to use tank controls.
That's about it.
These are EXCELLENT remasters and worth every penny.
Really? I didn't know that without the exclamation points, the problem is solved. Still if these features exist they should work.
@@Ariquel Try it!
This game desperately need a patch. I’m so disappointed when the Sphinx Statues didn’t render in the modern graphics mode. The one that comes alive just appeared out of nowhere. Not to mention all the keys you can only see in Classic graphics.
I quite happy with this, Lara is actual Lara.I can overlook the issues since finally is the actual Lara! The modem control are kinda messed up but with some effort I can somewhat get it to work tho I still rather use tank controls for now. I do hope that gets fixed in the next patch.
Crystal dynamic warning is just garbage, it might not even be referring to anything at all. They are envious of the actual Tomb Raider thus showing how lame and not talented their are. Crystal Dynamic keep ruining Lara expecially with that new Table top garbage. And tried to make Lara more ugly a weaker...
I Ariquel, it's never too late to comment on something, the proof of that is even today still so many of us make comments and our own Reviews of games and Movies from the 90s or early 00s we never played, it's just an example, so never lose your enthusiasm about doing things because of that non existent factor
You are right :) Thank you!
i am playing the first game on new game plus, its interesting, because you have to manage your ammo and combat tactics way more, it only gets frustrating if you want the more difficult secrets because you ant save it where you like, i would only do new game plus on the first game though, on 2 or 3 forget about it
Most of the people complaining about Pierre's Jacket are the same people who have said "Why didn't they just remake these games?" They're not the audience and they're not playing the game, we are. It's literally just people complaining for the sake of complaning.
Other than that I do agree with most of your opinions other than trying to introduce a modern audience to the game with autosaves, I think theres better ways to do it.
Now I'm curious, what other ways you think it would be better to atract new people?
2:37 For the first hour I was literally just pushing every key to see what happened 😆 They told us Photomode was on key P, and never even said anything about the OG graphics toggle key.
I've found the OG graphics key by acident when I was trying to use the ESC button 😅
@@Ariquel A 1 page PDF manual would have been so easy for them to do 🤦♂ maybe in the next patch a manual will magically arrive lol
It took me quite a while to figure out how to open the Menu on the PS4. 😝
@@pieterboelen2862 How about the secret weapon select trick?
@@DarioDarrow Haven't tried it yet...
What i think the Remasters needed most was a Update patch to fix the bad framerate pacing in the FMV, it's worse than the OG version than i remember in my opinion, hope they launch a patch soon🤔
They announced an update, but no specific date yet. Maybe it will fix that and the other problems :)
I love that they included old flaws of the game too. It doesn’t need modernization much, but it did need the graphic update to not hurt eyes. It is also fun comparison how the games were still engaging in olden times. The only reason I haven’t played the tomb raider in years is the graphics meant for tube televisions only. It is simply too bad.
But I am really disappointed they added new bugs too, modern controls are appalling and the most people quit who don’t want to learn the original controls of the game. The camera is simply too glitchy in modern controls. Also in venice there is a game breaking bug, the timed door doesn’t work properly and the main puzzle is ruined where you must drive fast by a boat through venice.
The more modern Tomb raider anniversary did everything poorly and it was really bad remake and didn’t feel at all the original. I found myself bored playing that game. Strangely it doesn’t happen with originals. They might be too frustrating but never boring. The game is so old that it should be treated as relic and it got more repect to the originals than any other game.😎
I just started TR1 and heard about the camera in modern controls and thought "eh, how bad can it be?" I made it to almost the end of Vilcabamba before getting so irritated I had to switch to the trusty tank controls that I'm used to. I'll probably stick with that since that's how I played the originals. If something gets patched and improved I might try again. I'm also thinking ahead to the more tricky jump sequences and I don't see how they'll be possible with the modern controls, but I assume there must be a way otherwise they wouldn't be in the game.
As a remaster it is very well done, and I thank the game developers for their work. However, I don't understand why the water graphics are so bland; all the surface textures are identical as far as I can tell - translucent like shed skin instead of smooth and glistening like flowing glass - with no realistic shine or ripple physics. This should've been really straightforward, being for PS4/5 consoles, plus the fact that it doesn't affect the original level design. Honestly, I would buy the game for upgraded water.
Agree 100% on the water. I don't think it looks bad, just very underwhelming. I do miss the look of rain causing ripples on the water in TR3 and the wavey oscillation of the water and mud surfaces are now gone.
I completed Tomb Raider 1 and 2 so far, and having never played the originals I can see now why people idolize these games so much: they truly kick ass. Blowing up yetis with a grenade launcher: it's the kind of absurd fun that you don't find in games anymore. The modern controls I think haven't even been playtested: while I did play these games with modern controls because in the end they suited me much more there are a lot of problems with them: in this control system the camera is the rudder that steers Lara: so we should have total control over it all the time. Yet the game sometimes takes control of the camera itself, making Lara fly off in a direction she isn't supposed to, or it doesn't allow for the camera to be placed behind Lara when she's standing with her back to a wall, and in a tight space this is becoming ever more of a problem. And then there are the vehicles that can't even be exited or accelerated in the modern controls, making me constantly having to switch between tank and modern controls... These things have to be fixed in a patch because in their current state they're unacceptable. The controversy about the starting message is a bit overblown in my opinion: while I don't appreciate Crystal Dynamics preaching their moral values to me I realize they could have made all the changes they wanted but they didn't. They could have changed all the gorillas and tigers that Lara has to kill in Trump voters but they didn't. They could have deflated her boobs to the size of mosquito bites but they didn't, they could have changed her into a black gay transsexual activist but they didn't. All they did was put a disclaimer at the beginning that can be easily ignored, so lets be thankful that that's all. Anyway, this was the first time in more than a decade that I was excited about a new Tomb Raider game, and there were several moments during playing sessions that I looked at the time and saw that it was 3 'o clock in the morning already, so can't say I didn't enjoy these games.
It is a remaster. Not a redo
I know, I think the only thing that I mentioned that could be considered as remake would be the cutscenes in the expansions. When I mentioned extras I wanted to say things like outfit selection, option to see cutscenes, level selection. If they added the photomode with the outfits, modern controls and esclamation points, what's the problem of adding stuff like that?
@@Ariquel they are targeting people like me that played the games when they came out originally. It is nice that they only redid the graphics and slight enhancements to playability in the first one but people like me just want to be able to play them again.
We don't want remakes.
@@artpereira If the original fans were the only targets they wouldn't bother creating modern controls. They are trying to reach old and new fans.
Of the things I mentioned nothing would change the experience that you already have, they could be options just like modern controls are.
@@Ariquel the kept the original controls. of course they want as many people to play it but the reason they kept the game untouched and kept original controls is for the OG fans. I would absolutely hate if they made any considerable changes because I just want to play the games again. I don't want any changes. so they did it right
very nice video overall its amazing remaster but it need to be polished. the things you pointed out i totally agree. I think developers just had little time and they did best thez could . Now lets wait for patch that coming soon. BTW NGplus shoud have name nightmare zou totallz right.
Have you played with any of the mods on NexusMods? a few things you mentioned already have fan fixes like the FMV and outfit swapping.
No, I need to try it! Do you know it affects the trophies/achievements?
@@Ariquel I don't think so as the outfit swap they just edited the file to not switch back to the normal outfit when you exit photomode. I've still been getting all the weird achievements even full outfit swaps.
Thanks for confirming :) @@DarioDarrow
I definitely am disappointed in the remasters. Like you mentioned at the end, they really did change a bunch of stuff but claimed they didn't. That ended up bothering me a lot. It's no longer preservation or restoration at this point. Instead I now see this collection as just a bad variant of these games. So many visual oddities, things uselessly changed for no good reason, and even some game mechanics that come across more broken now than they did back in the 90s. Needless to say, I'm sad I didn't end up loving them the way I expected to. I was hyping up and supporting them for the 5 months leading up to release, just to open the games and feel let down. In 2024, I can barely see how that's excusable. But regardless, the original versions still exist and are available to buy easily, so I'll continue to play them the original way. Besides, those are the versions I fell in love with in the first place, so there's no loss in that.
I think having some of the trophies/achievements be bugged (e.g. all pickups in TR1) so they cannot be obtained until a patch comes out is completely inexcusable. A lot of fans are very familiar with these games and are likely to be starting off going for the trophies/achievements as a new way of playing.
Also not having a level select mode after completion is pretty bad.
I think criticism is always welcome, you'll never find anything that everyone is completely in agreement on.
I have to imagine the budget for this remaster was pretty low, we know the core developers on the project were modders from the community so there was probably more passion behind it than money :P, that's not to say it looks cheap they did a thorough and impressive job.
There are a few new features, but adding even more features or stretching the budget to remake FMV's was just beyond the scale of this project, due to the remasters running on the original game engine there were limits too, so despite the few issues i really believe this is the best remastering possible for these games.
We've had a bit of a preview of future updates thanks to the Epic build of the game, though i don't know how far the devs will be allowed to take it since the Saber split, but i really hope they get to continue on this and further games, fingers crossed.
Funny inconsistency. I recently completed the Lara Croft remaster, as well as Tomb Raider: Anniversary, but I’ll talk about the first game.
In the first part of the game, Lara meets Larson in the cutscene and offers to work for Natla. In the same part, Pierre and Larson die.
Now let's remember the fifth part, Chronicles. The action takes place BEFORE the first part of the game, and our heroes are trying to make a deal, after which Larson is wounded and burned by a three-headed snake (and he most likely survives, because his body is gone afterwards), and Pierre falls, and makes such a sound that he clearly could not survive (if Lara falls, she will not survive). So, these guys have a conflict with Lara as a result. Then my question is logical...How did Lara agree to talk with Larson (at the beginning of the first part of the game, in the intro) and why are there no old grievances, etc.? Why doesn’t Lara see the catch, that these two will deceive her again? In addition, Lara's character in Chronicles, in Rome...is more cruel, since Lara lets Pierre fall and she has no feelings of guilt, while in the first part of the game, Lara feels guilty for Larson's death.
Well she feels guilty on Aniversary which is a diferent timeline. But the rest of it I agree. :)
Yes tomb raider remasters were amazing and we could not expect more well said
What I find disappointing is that the censored Pierre's jacket even in the original. It's fine in the remaster but if they truly respected the original developers of the games they wouldn't have done that. They also removed the blood when the Trex kills you in the remaster. I knew they couldn't leave everything alone.
Yeah, I think they should have let the original how it is, since they said they didn't change things. I didn't notice the T-Rex blood. It doesn't make sense to remove that since we still see blood when Lara is attacked.
Thw one thing that makes for a worse experience is shadows. The whole game is too bright. You can see far ahead in the distance when in the original it was pitch black and grafually came to light as you get closer.
Also there is no use for flares as they have given a light sources to every dark room and corridor .
Another significant downgrade is the addition of rooftop openings. Destroys immersion as youn had the impression you were getting deeper underground in the original.Now you see its not the case in remastered.
Flickering light from fires and torches is now stable and illuminates.Another downgrade.
Water some times cannot be seen from a distance. Same thing when underwater. You cannot distinguish the surface any more.
In other instances, sprites representing water flow now have been removed. Clasical example in TRII Temple of Xian. The water no more rushes ashore. It is plain still on the surface.
Changes like thes that have me wondering what were they thinking...Often times i find myself playing in old graphics (and lower frame rate) as it feels more satisfying an experience, only to changebto new graphs just to see what they did with the remastered.
Oldschool graphics is my verdict.
Honestly, the people losing their minds over minor stuff like Pierre's jacket in the first game or the trigger warning that's on screen for 1 second probably don't have a lot going on with their lives.. worst case scenario they are just outrage farmers that don't even play the games.. it is INSANE that such a minor thing has poisoned the discource around these games so much to the point where I can't even search for TR Remaster content without that shit popping up.
As someone who grew up with these games with the whole family coming together to solve them back in the 90s, I think the trigger warning is at the very least warranted considering there's quite a few things that would surely not pass with today's audiences.. especially when you just casually shoot black people in TR3, cannibals or not and a lot of depictions of cultures other than British are very caricature-ish.. though granted Lara herself is sort of a cartoon anyway. It's a complex issue and it's better to have a split second warning about it rather than having to deal with it since if they changed the source material it'd be WAY worse.
Yeah, it's a complex issue, and I can see where both sides are coming from. Personally, I believe there should be a clear distinction between games and reality.
Nobody seems to care that she kills people and animals in the games. But I guess it's how things are now. I'm happy that they didn't make radical changes.
@@Ariquel Honestly, since the games are basically unchanged barring minor aesthetic changes (usually for the better, loved all that foliage!), I'm as happy as could be! I think they need a patch or two to be perfect, but I'm beyond extatic these games are getting preserved like this.
Just wish more people would talk about how good they are instead of their weird fixation on political outrage really.
I'm a bit disappointed with game industry in general. I dont know how it is in the background, but games feel like they are made too quick and only to meet an objetive, feels like raw capitalism instead of making games with spirit and motivation too. If the persons that remastered them would love it, the wouldn't let pass that dark and hardly visible places you mention. For me this constrast radically with Tomb Raider Anniversary for example.
*they wouldn't
Yeah, there are still a few good games, but it's not like it was in the early days. Back then, we had a variety of games that we don't have now. I remember watching an interview with the developers of the first Tomb Raiders on Ash's Channel, where they mentioned how lucky they were to work on games during that era because they had more creative freedom.
It happens because of consumers behaving like consumers , with phrases like ‘take my money ‘
Which leads to cutting corners , cutting out dlc’s which should be in the base game , filled with microtransactions ….
You’d ever think R* and take two would ever get away with that online shit they are doing now , if they would try it 17 years ago ? No , it would have bombed and would still see huge expansions , it was because the”gaming community “ put their money where their mouth was at … also the moment , people in suits entered the bussiness a lot of went spiraling down …. Drawing lots of people that are only interested in it to make huge profits instead of letting artists make their craft and hone their skills ….
It’s simple , everything gets watered down for profits …
It was bound to happen when the industry got really big and profitable. It is run like any other big company in any other area, be it movies, food etc
Creativity and bravery get lost.Investors don't want risk making. And artistic vision gets lost.
They ruined atlantis with the remaster
Why so say that?
Poor graphics i think
Em inglês até é de estranhar
bem que reparei no sotaque
why complain about dificulties or autosaves lmao.be happy with what you have
As I said in the video, I personally have no problem, I mentioned it as a problem for new fans, and that they are also important for the future of the series. These are things can be improved since now they can update games.
Because the new generations are panzies , there I said it . Expecting everything at once without minimal effort and extreme handholding …