And cause Lara Croft was created by a British studio and also so was GTA we brought u of the best franchises out their like Harry Potter and lord of the rings
If Crystal Dynamics wants a successful Tomb Raider game they need to return to form of what the originals (Core Design) had. The last three installments didn't feel like Tomb Raider and were honestly hitting the same notes story wise. My fear is that it's going to be a Uncharted Lost Legacy rip-off with some elements of a Ubisoft game as said in the video... But I'm keeping my optimism in check because it seems like these developers like to "rewrite" and alter these classic IPs.
The newer tomb raiders feel more like katniss everdeen in The hunger games than it does tomb raider. What few puzzles in the games my father breezed through, he actually had to stop and think on the originals.
And whenever a game studio makes a game with classic elements it barely gets an audience, in a way it’s most of the audience’s fault for the way things are now.
For me, Lara should be a female James Bond. That's how saw the classic Lara in the original game, she was full of cool one-liners some were pretty fun. She should go back to that.
@@HermesBlRD"Look at her face in the photo". Dude, you're seeing fanmade art work and acting as if it's verified artwork of the next TR game for her appearance. This already tells a lot of us how upset you are from zero information other than assumption
@@ZiddersRooFurry Okay and? Why can't Lara Croft be a strong, intelligent, badass woman with the looks of a super model? This was never an issue in the classic games and the LAU era so WHY have her completely changed to look regular a plain Jane (and in this case manish) if you will? There's Nothing wrong with female characters in video games being hyper feminine.
Y'all really didn't understand when she came out the water bloodied going beast mode lol she thought her best friend just been murdered that was a amazing moment that should of lasted longer
Last game suffered from writers struggling to committing to it, because it still needed to be "fun game". I love idea of exploring this part of her, but they failed. Said that, still enjoyed heck out of that game. Loved their bro / sis chemistry, and if rebooted version will have good writing as well, I am in.
I whole heartedly disagree with his take on Rise. To me, Rise was dang near PERFECT , for where Tomb Raider should have been going. Tomb Raider IS THE ORIGINAL, not Uncharted which copied them. So in the ReBoot of Tomb Raider, while good, it was trying TOO HARD to be Uncharted. Rise is where they broke off and with all the extra additional Semi-Open world areas and increased Platform & Puzzle areas was a PERFECT blueprint of where Tomb Raider should have went. Then Shadow came out, was made by a completely different development team which it showed, and it just completely crapped the bed story wise in where they were going as she still never truly really "became the Tomb Raider". Like he said, (Spoilers) that scene where she came out the water STILL did not show her dawn an original like outfit, pick up a second pistol, and they didn't even commit to killing off the other main character for growth purposes. It's like they had NO CLUE where they wanted to go. I REALLY wish he would have finished Rise, it is definitely one of my favorite games of the genre ever, he should give it a second chance.
would like to see more of the “action style” tomb raider if it’s gonna go open world. Great combat with good exploration and a story would get my attention
You're not alone Josh. I actually really liked Dark Angel too but I've been told that this isn't something that should be said in a public space so it's the last I'll speak on it.
I think the Horizon games might be a good place to look for what Lara Croft open world will feel like. Obviously the plot and the combat will be vastly different, but Alloy has an array of tools, including the inevitable grapple and glider, and a lot of time is spent solving traversal problems with those tools.
If it's truly open-world, it can only go 2 ways. Absolutely perfect with flow and plenty to discover without feeling bloated and "fillers" or the opposite and flop...hard. Give it the Ghost Recon- Breakpoint and it should be just fine.
Open World needs other elements to carry it. For Elden Ring, it's the Souls gameplay. For Genshin, it's the characters and ongoing events. For Zelda, it's mindless Nintendo fanboys who will defend any slop they're given and ask for more. And last I checked, Tomb Raider isn't known for Souls bosses, anime gacha stuff, or Nintendo fanboys. It will just be "Breath of the Wild except given fair reviews because it isn't a Zelda game", which means total crash and burn.
@@jaeusa160 So Tomb Raider has never been a game with mini-bosses, goofy characters or various other items that it's being compared to. It's intent has always been exploration, discovery and deep story. Minus the deep story, is what most open worlds have been. So to compare what once was and slightly still is a "Platform game" to something like Elden Ring is grossly misrepresenting the point.
@@PeanutButa0407 I don't think I'm missing the point here. I think my point is that Tomb Raider works by being a contained and meticulously crafted experience, long deep dives into insane puzzle dungeons, which get bigger over the game generations. Open world doesn't help that, it's a waste of resources that doesn't enrich the experience. And the cost will certainly be diminishing the experience to boot.
@@jaeusa160Yall talk to much its hard for my dyslexic brain to read but uhm… I dont like botw or totk zeldas because they went to open world and lack in the dungeon aspect THE POINT OF ZELDA Im not big into tomb raider but I also can see the whole Open world and dodging what makes the game the game in the first place
I'm writing to you from Tamil Nadu, India. I recently heard about your upcoming Tomb Raider project set in India, and I'm incredibly excited! Tamil Nadu boasts a rich history filled with great kings, advanced technology for its time, and deep knowledge that extends far beyond the earthly realm, including our fascination with astrology and space. I'm confident you'll do an amazing job representing this in the game. While boomerangs aren't a common weapon in our region, a traditional martial art called Silambam (also known as Aadhi Muru) uses similar staff-based techniques. It would be fantastic to see this incorporated into the game alongside other unique fighting styles. Perhaps Lara could encounter ancient texts or artifacts that hint at this fascinating aspect of our culture, including references to the mythical Yali, a powerful creature often depicted guarding temples. Imagine Lara encountering a forgotten chamber adorned with Yali statues or even facing a formidable guardian inspired by this mythical beast. To truly immerse players in the experience, including a Nataraja statue, the embodiment of cosmic dance in Hindu culture, would be a powerful touch. Finally, as a humble request, making the game available in Tamil would be a dream come true for many fans in my region. Thank you for your time and consideration.
It should go open world but with Metroidvania style Tombs. Like an open world map, but when you go to a Tomb it becomes a maze like dungeon that takes you several hours to solve.
My idea for a Tomb Raider reboot: Remake The Last Revelation. Ground up. The plot literally starts with Lara's origin! That game has great ideas and a cool story but was WAY too ahead of its time and technology. The game ends with Lara's "death" and you can remake Angel of Darkness after that or do whatever you want!
Please return to the British quipping experienced dungeon diving badass again. I would like then to take a Legacy of Kain approach. Give Laura an equally engaging antagonist that we can play between with it culminating in a rivalry between Two with each being each others rival boss fights/final boss fight.
Tomb 2 just opened my eyes to the possibilities. I never had my mind blown so quietly, as the night I started playing a PS2 display at Best Buy with Tomb Raider 2/China level. I'd never even logged into Windows 3X before and never played a game that I didn't have to start by adding a quarter. Mind blown, in the best kind of way. Windows 95 PC (Cyrix CPU, no less) and other games followed. Peak gaming offerings were achieved c. 1999-2000, I think. Tomb 3, Half-life, Thief 1 and 2. Max Payne. Things have never been quite the same.
well her original thing was disowned by parents and inherited her aunts croft manor. The new dead father and chase in his footsteps isnt as good or as unique. They just went safe basic trope mode. Ac odyssey did have climb anything as well, i feel they really had something special with that game. But i also wouldn’t want a devolve into climbing simulator.
I think it's a terrible idea too. Instanced areas and chapters allow you to craft FAR more grand and elaborate exploration and puzzle experiences. Open World ends up as Quantity over Quality, you need to fill that space with stuff, and filling that space with stuff means spreading stuff thinner. The only Open World games that get away with that while putting zero effort into basically anything else are the recent Zelda games. Elden Ring's got its Souls bosses and gameplay, Genshin's got heaps of characters and events, and Zelda's got Nintendo fanboys. Tomb Raider: Breath of the Wild isn't going to be carried by Nintendo fanboys.
@@dreamer8448 Yeah I think for this kind of series that's all about those lone dives into long ridiculous puzzle dungeons, open world is entirely a mistake and waste of effort.
Open world has started to become a red flag for me. With Gears 5 and Starfield being the worst offenders, there are too many barren open worlds. I'm not trying to traverse to far away spots with nothing between those 2 spots
Basically. I think game bloggers (not qualifying as journalists) and rats on twitter will definitely make creating a game with an intelligent, attractive, powerful, straight, light-skinned woman a struggle. It is truly pathetic that we even consider allowing people who don't even buy, play, or share these games control how games look and feel. Just saying it how it is
13:09 it's because you were not thinking outside the box!!! I've climbed mountains and reached places I was not suppose to... how many times the game flatout told me I'm out of bound and will be put back to the games map if I went any further... all thanks to the skills I obtained in skyrim... I call it the goat climb
@@ZiddersRooFurry Lara Croft is suppose to look like Lara Croft, Not Leon S. Kennedy from Resident Evil. I swear people like you in this day and age are so scared of femininity.
Despite all shortcomings, I loved rebooted Tomb Raider trilogy, and it had some very strong points. If they can build upon what worked in that, reboot might be ok? I feel strongest element was finding tombs in open world and then epxlore, that feels pretty much how best open world games do it (Zelda for example).
Problem will open work is the lack of focus and the narrative basically loses any sense of urgency or weight and the nature of the open ended environment means some design limitations on character growth get thrown out of balance easily. A good compromise might be the Dark SOULS SUB worlds type of design.
This doesn't make sense to me. Traveling around, different set pieces make sense to me. Open world like a bloated AC Odyssey worries me. Everything is open world now. I can't be the only one with open world fatigue
I enjoyed the trilogy, the first game was my favorite. I'm looking forward to more Tomb Raider but they have to keep Camilla Luddington. She was perfect as the voice of Lara, so many Greys Anatomy fans have no idea the American accent is fake.
I enjoyed and thought the last trilogy was pretty good for the most part. But the way the industry is going these days, I do not have high hopes for the next iteration of Tomb Raider.
They won't. That kind of gameplay only exists because of the meticulously contained and structured environments, no matter how large they may seem. So this is a pipe dream at best. I don't know why anyone would be so naive as to think "If the environments are suddenly going to be 20x larger, surely it will have the same density of puzzling and parkour and normal Tomb Raider gameplay". Not without 20x the game budget and staff it ain't.
It became quite old, pretty quick. Not a fan of the 'Carry exactly 1 handgun + exactly 1 rifle + exactly 1 shotgun + exactly 1 bow' formula. Also, make bows a Hell of a lot less important and focus on the dual handguns. And, while we're at it : Stop forcing Lara into a mandatory crouching position, every single time there's an enemy anywhere around here - even if the player doesn't know it.
The audience that pays for these games is 45-50 years old, has to work 8-10 hours per day, is married, has children and couldn´t care less about Tomb Raider.... That is why is has to change
Josh brings up how an open world Tomb Raider game might mimic a Far Cry game, but I'd be more worried about it being compared to Horizon (Zero Dawn; Forbidden West), games. Scott says, those games restrict your movement, but Forbidden West, does not. It has more free form climbing and includes tons of puzzle ruins and cauldrons aka Tombs. It also has collectibles and loot caches that require figuring out how to navigate to as well. It has mount and gliders, too. So, this would be my worry if I were a TR dev thinking about an open world experience since many recent games actually do open worlds well. Not every open world is a bloated, boring checklist game from Ubisoft in 2024. To think that, or try and mimic this is where it can go wrong.
If you want a good Tomb Raider take it away from Crystal Dynamics and never let them touch Lara again. Give Tomb Raider to Aspyr and see what they can do with her. I would like Shift Up to get Tomb Raider. Have a hot Lara again with hopefully a good story and good action. That said, none of these things will happen so the franchise can just die. I have the remastered original games. I am good.
I didn’t love the reboot trilogy. But I also recently played the remastered original trilogy and those don’t hold up as well as my nostalgia believe they would. So idk what I want now
Ill wait until it comes out for my final opinion on an open world design, but I'm not totally enthusiastic about it. I like linear games and I like open world games. Tomb Raider to me is always appealing as a linear game. After the last trilogy, I do hope that it at least stays a mature game. I don't want to backtrack to a teen rated adventure.
I mean... it's an idea. I wouldn't go out of my way to call it a good idea. "Open world" is honestly just very overrated, oversaturated, and the depths and effort it has to go through to even be good are fairly extreme. What's Lara bringing to the table that Link isn't? Aside from a better looking game due to not being glued to being a shoddy Nintendo exclusive. And that's just the weakest example. What does this bring that Genshin doesn't, or Bethesda's next ES/FO game? Is this better off than a more chapter and story oriented entry? Is this tradeoff worthwhile? I don't think so. I think this just bloats budget and dev time for an arguably weaker game at the end. Mostly, "Open World" games work due to a large cast and a lot going on... Link's the only one who gets away with painfully long stretches of solo wandering in massively empty lands, and only because Nintendo fanboys will flip their lids if you dare to point out that leaves the Zelda franchise at the bottom of the barrel for these types of games. Lara's already dealing with that and without Nintendo's zombies... just stick to the more focused story and gameplay experience. You can make massive elaborate puzzles and sequences that way, rather than the massive trim down you need when it's just 1 of hundreds of "Open World" puzzles.
Personally I like the open hub version of tomb raider. I’m not a fan of open world but the world of tomb raider would fit a open world setting very well
It absolutely DOES NOT need to go open world. That will ruin it. The world design they had, the semi open world one, was perfect and they need to stick to that.
I want the new Lara Croft to be for Tomb Raider what the Daniel Craig era was for James Bond. Make the character more serious, emotionally complex, grounded and less of a caricature without losing the classic elements of cool, sex appeal, humour and grey morality that made the character fun and interesting. Making the character more "real" doesn't mean they have to be a wet mop.
Also apparently, has a girlfriend, who works with lara to train other tomb raiders and gives back collected artefacts 🤡 it's not lara, it's not tomb raider
Exploration could be cool in a game that really shoukd be about exploring. But getting that right is so, so hard. Ill bet they dont execute even if the concept is ok.
I hope they at least keep the insanely over the top deaths when you mess up. You don't jump out of the way you get crushed by a boulder. Take the wrong path down the river you get a tree branch through the head. They were so over the top wtf and they always made me laugh.
I first discovered Tomb Raider through the Angelina Jolie movie and immediately got Last Revelation because it was the only game I could get my hands on.
Cmon man that's not so true is it? Yes, they were fantastic games for their time and we've got great memories but the 2013 trilogy was just absolutely incredible. Blew the originals out of the water in my opinion
I HATE an open world! Give me a beginning and an end that i can follow and I am a happy camper. Some people don't want to have to travel all over some CRAZY world map.
I don't see a problem with more Uncharted-like games if they are done well, It's not like Naughty Dog are making a new one any time soon and the last one came out 8 years ago (unless you count Lost Legacy as a separate entry) so the market isn't really saturated.
Until a new game comes out, be prepared for more things like Lara Croft in the mobile game Hero Wars. Embracer is going the mine the IP for every penny they can.
Imagine how dumb one has to be to think tomb raider has to be overhauled and the very thing to do it is D.E.I., the thing literally everyone that pays for media hates.
The last trilogy just felt like they were going for an uncharted rip-off. That’s not Lara. She has a bland personality and no dual pistols. The remastered versions is the original ps1 games is what they should go for! It’s what the real fans REALLY WANT. They’re always trying to turn it into another game instead of keeping the essence of the originals and it just sucks to hear these news 😢 Hopefully, we can at least get a remastered versions of the fourth and fifth game
I have played the reboot trilogy and liked it quite a bit. So I recently bought Romb raider anniversary, legends and underworld. I understand why people love it so much, and now I know why people are pissed at Crystal for their "for modern audience" look. Such a shame that Lara is getting destroyed, she is such a badass.
I played Rise (which I enjoyed) and Shadow (not as much. Pretty boring and underwhelming final boss) back to back recently. I got tired them making the whole story about Trinity and Lara still stuck on her parent's death. It's ok to tackle those things, specially her parents, but one game was enough to it. Having her on the same emotional place got me tired. I thought her breakout was going to be when she got Jonah "killed" but no, it was the greatest moment that lasted nothing and she went back to being a kid who explores and casually kills. This is the same issue that happened to Hitman when Absolution came out. They put drama into it and became a linear story that most people didn't like (although I personally enjoyed it for a change). However, IO Interactive quickly realized their mistake and went back to the original formula (sandbox) with improved mechanics etc. and we've had Hitman 1, 2 and 3 as top enjoyable games. Crystal Dynamics should take a note or two from IO Interactive on how to handle failure.
I just don't ever want it to become an RPG game or a lifeless Open world, lacking hand crafted level design. I stopped playing assassins creed because they changed the genre completely, i don't want this to happen with lara. because it's really one of the only Adventure AAA Game remaining on the PC market, I don't want 200 hours of soul less gameplay, but a polished gameplay with well-paced adventure, story and set pieces even if it's less than 10 hours of gameplay,
I liked Tomb Raider because it was, basically, a puzzle game with guns
And cause Lara Croft was created by a British studio and also so was GTA we brought u of the best franchises out their like Harry Potter and lord of the rings
@@davidware9549 GTA was created by two British dudes, but perfected by an American gaming company.
I love Tomb Raider mainly for the feeling of exploration and discovery. Amazing series!
It’s like uncharted or resident evil. A god tier goated immersive rated M game.
@@davidware9549grouping Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings is crazy
Knowing what became of the Devs, my expectations are low. Very, very, very low...
For the love of God. DO NOT INCLUDE A MULTIPLAYER MODE!!
Reverse psychology I see
Yea i mean if multiplayer is really good otherwise fk it
@@lacedchemist1295not at all. Tomb Raider is not a multiplayer game
@@craigl458 oh ok, I thought TR was one of the games that people really liked the multiplayer in for some reason
If Crystal Dynamics wants a successful Tomb Raider game they need to return to form of what the originals (Core Design) had. The last three installments didn't feel like Tomb Raider and were honestly hitting the same notes story wise. My fear is that it's going to be a Uncharted Lost Legacy rip-off with some elements of a Ubisoft game as said in the video... But I'm keeping my optimism in check because it seems like these developers like to "rewrite" and alter these classic IPs.
We've been saying this for years and they never listen. This lara they rebooted was awful. Americans don't get it
The newer tomb raiders feel more like katniss everdeen in The hunger games than it does tomb raider.
What few puzzles in the games my father breezed through,
he actually had to stop and think on the originals.
And whenever a game studio makes a game with classic elements it barely gets an audience, in a way it’s most of the audience’s fault for the way things are now.
lol its doomed... we all saw that Netflix trash...
All I want out of Tomb Raider is precision platforming. Like intentional jumps and grabs. No more yellow paint!!!!!!
For me, Lara should be a female James Bond. That's how saw the classic Lara in the original game, she was full of cool one-liners some were pretty fun. She should go back to that.
Played all 3 of the 2013 trilogy loved them all
Open world is better than Live Service, at least.
We can continue this chain with Live Service is (probably) better than Mobile/Gacha.
Live Service is a curse that never ends.
RIP Tomb Raider that is not about tomb raiding
We need og Lara but with today's graphics and done well. Is that too much to ask for? Probably yes🙄
For a "modern audience"
Don't DCUify it.
Don't "modern audience" it.
@@HermesBlRD You do realize plenty of women look like that, right? Not every woman looks like a runway model.
@@ZiddersRooFurrybold of you to assume this person interacts with women
@@HermesBlRD"Look at her face in the photo". Dude, you're seeing fanmade art work and acting as if it's verified artwork of the next TR game for her appearance.
This already tells a lot of us how upset you are from zero information other than assumption
@@HermesBlRDdude, what? Masculine face? Just say you're gay at this point no one would judge
@@ZiddersRooFurry Okay and? Why can't Lara Croft be a strong, intelligent, badass woman with the looks of a super model? This was never an issue in the classic games and the LAU era so WHY have her completely changed to look regular a plain Jane (and in this case manish) if you will? There's Nothing wrong with female characters in video games being hyper feminine.
We will look back on this decade as the dark age of media that butchered nearly every iconic character you can think of.
For the love of god. DO NOT OVERHAUL IT FOR A "mODeRN aUdIeNcE!"
You are just threatened by a Lara Croft with a penis. That is your fault for being so insecure!!
@@Jeremy-ql1orbro whaaaat 💀
Too late.
Y'all really didn't understand when she came out the water bloodied going beast mode lol she thought her best friend just been murdered that was a amazing moment that should of lasted longer
Last game suffered from writers struggling to committing to it, because it still needed to be "fun game". I love idea of exploring this part of her, but they failed. Said that, still enjoyed heck out of that game. Loved their bro / sis chemistry, and if rebooted version will have good writing as well, I am in.
a lot of little complain for no reason about her lol
I whole heartedly disagree with his take on Rise. To me, Rise was dang near PERFECT , for where Tomb Raider should have been going. Tomb Raider IS THE ORIGINAL, not Uncharted which copied them. So in the ReBoot of Tomb Raider, while good, it was trying TOO HARD to be Uncharted. Rise is where they broke off and with all the extra additional Semi-Open world areas and increased Platform & Puzzle areas was a PERFECT blueprint of where Tomb Raider should have went. Then Shadow came out, was made by a completely different development team which it showed, and it just completely crapped the bed story wise in where they were going as she still never truly really "became the Tomb Raider". Like he said, (Spoilers) that scene where she came out the water STILL did not show her dawn an original like outfit, pick up a second pistol, and they didn't even commit to killing off the other main character for growth purposes. It's like they had NO CLUE where they wanted to go. I REALLY wish he would have finished Rise, it is definitely one of my favorite games of the genre ever, he should give it a second chance.
would like to see more of the “action style” tomb raider if it’s gonna go open world. Great combat with good exploration and a story would get my attention
You're not alone Josh. I actually really liked Dark Angel too but I've been told that this isn't something that should be said in a public space so it's the last I'll speak on it.
My expectations and hopes for Tomb Raider to be getting back to its original roots is decreasing with every new thing that's leaked.
I think the Horizon games might be a good place to look for what Lara Croft open world will feel like. Obviously the plot and the combat will be vastly different, but Alloy has an array of tools, including the inevitable grapple and glider, and a lot of time is spent solving traversal problems with those tools.
I loved tomb Rider 2013. Rise is my favorite, and I thought Shadow wasn't bad. I'm excited for the next tomb raider
2013 was brilliant played on PS3
Rise and Shadow I’ve bought on super sale for PS4 not too long ago looking forward to diving in
same!!
I understand the criticisms people make of Shadow but it's definitely worth playing and graphically it's one of the best looking games ever made
Shadow was the worst of the three.
@theperfectionist1607 story wise, yes, I played all three, but I think Shadow has the best graphics and gameplay
If it's truly open-world, it can only go 2 ways. Absolutely perfect with flow and plenty to discover without feeling bloated and "fillers" or the opposite and flop...hard. Give it the Ghost Recon- Breakpoint and it should be just fine.
Open World needs other elements to carry it. For Elden Ring, it's the Souls gameplay. For Genshin, it's the characters and ongoing events. For Zelda, it's mindless Nintendo fanboys who will defend any slop they're given and ask for more.
And last I checked, Tomb Raider isn't known for Souls bosses, anime gacha stuff, or Nintendo fanboys. It will just be "Breath of the Wild except given fair reviews because it isn't a Zelda game", which means total crash and burn.
@@jaeusa160 So Tomb Raider has never been a game with mini-bosses, goofy characters or various other items that it's being compared to. It's intent has always been exploration, discovery and deep story. Minus the deep story, is what most open worlds have been. So to compare what once was and slightly still is a "Platform game" to something like Elden Ring is grossly misrepresenting the point.
@@PeanutButa0407 I don't think I'm missing the point here. I think my point is that Tomb Raider works by being a contained and meticulously crafted experience, long deep dives into insane puzzle dungeons, which get bigger over the game generations.
Open world doesn't help that, it's a waste of resources that doesn't enrich the experience. And the cost will certainly be diminishing the experience to boot.
@@jaeusa160Yall talk to much its hard for my dyslexic brain to read but uhm… I dont like botw or totk zeldas because they went to open world and lack in the dungeon aspect THE POINT OF ZELDA Im not big into tomb raider but I also can see the whole Open world and dodging what makes the game the game in the first place
From what I've read and seen, they don't want to do a classic tomb raider and they want to move away from the original as much as possible 😅🙈
Yeah they hate the original games. And I hate Crystal Dynamics.
@@partycrasher854Why do they still make games then? Why don’t they make their Own game series instead of using lara croft and tomb raider?
Because the Tomb Raider name brings in money
I'm writing to you from Tamil Nadu, India. I recently heard about your upcoming Tomb Raider project set in India, and I'm incredibly excited! Tamil Nadu boasts a rich history filled with great kings, advanced technology for its time, and deep knowledge that extends far beyond the earthly realm, including our fascination with astrology and space. I'm confident you'll do an amazing job representing this in the game.
While boomerangs aren't a common weapon in our region, a traditional martial art called Silambam (also known as Aadhi Muru) uses similar staff-based techniques. It would be fantastic to see this incorporated into the game alongside other unique fighting styles.
Perhaps Lara could encounter ancient texts or artifacts that hint at this fascinating aspect of our culture, including references to the mythical Yali, a powerful creature often depicted guarding temples. Imagine Lara encountering a forgotten chamber adorned with Yali statues or even facing a formidable guardian inspired by this mythical beast.
To truly immerse players in the experience, including a Nataraja statue, the embodiment of cosmic dance in Hindu culture, would be a powerful touch.
Finally, as a humble request, making the game available in Tamil would be a dream come true for many fans in my region.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
I agree that it should have that "Core" identity
It should go open world but with Metroidvania style Tombs. Like an open world map, but when you go to a Tomb it becomes a maze like dungeon that takes you several hours to solve.
I’d be more interested in something between the original trilogy and a AA “Open World” that’s one tomb or ruins to investigate/escape from.
Give us more modes like in ROTR and for the love of God don't make outfits mandatory like in shadow.
My idea for a Tomb Raider reboot:
Remake The Last Revelation. Ground up. The plot literally starts with Lara's origin! That game has great ideas and a cool story but was WAY too ahead of its time and technology. The game ends with Lara's "death" and you can remake Angel of Darkness after that or do whatever you want!
Angela darkness is the one video game I believe they need to make a proper remake of .
there are so many glitches so much cut content
Please return to the British quipping experienced dungeon diving badass again.
I would like then to take a Legacy of Kain approach. Give Laura an equally engaging antagonist that we can play between with it culminating in a rivalry between Two with each being each others rival boss fights/final boss fight.
I know it won't happen, but if they could somehow combine TR1, Legend, and 2013 into one game, then that would be the perfect TR game for me!
I think the Croft trilogy were some of the best games I've ever played. That and uncharted of course.
Tomb 2 just opened my eyes to the possibilities. I never had my mind blown so quietly, as the night I started playing a PS2 display at Best Buy with Tomb Raider 2/China level. I'd never even logged into Windows 3X before and never played a game that I didn't have to start by adding a quarter.
Mind blown, in the best kind of way. Windows 95 PC (Cyrix CPU, no less) and other games followed. Peak gaming offerings were achieved c. 1999-2000, I think. Tomb 3, Half-life, Thief 1 and 2. Max Payne. Things have never been quite the same.
Josh just likes everything that most critics aren't into. It's a skill at this point.
I can’t wait to play an open world Tomb Raider game . I’m 37 Tomb Raider is my first game ever and I am obsessed with this game, I hope it’s good
well her original thing was disowned by parents and inherited her aunts croft manor. The new dead father and chase in his footsteps isnt as good or as unique. They just went safe basic trope mode.
Ac odyssey did have climb anything as well, i feel they really had something special with that game.
But i also wouldn’t want a devolve into climbing simulator.
Still would love a angel of darkness game, a bit of foucault's Pendulum. More puzzles.
Better question: Will they make Lara black and/or LGBTQ?
ocmon we know that they will destroy this IP
I think it's a terrible idea too. Instanced areas and chapters allow you to craft FAR more grand and elaborate exploration and puzzle experiences.
Open World ends up as Quantity over Quality, you need to fill that space with stuff, and filling that space with stuff means spreading stuff thinner.
The only Open World games that get away with that while putting zero effort into basically anything else are the recent Zelda games. Elden Ring's got its Souls bosses and gameplay, Genshin's got heaps of characters and events, and Zelda's got Nintendo fanboys. Tomb Raider: Breath of the Wild isn't going to be carried by Nintendo fanboys.
@@jaeusa160 AC games too. a lot to do but soulless the most time. and we got a few lara games with open areas.. (i didnt like it)
@@dreamer8448 Yeah I think for this kind of series that's all about those lone dives into long ridiculous puzzle dungeons, open world is entirely a mistake and waste of effort.
Open world has started to become a red flag for me. With Gears 5 and Starfield being the worst offenders, there are too many barren open worlds. I'm not trying to traverse to far away spots with nothing between those 2 spots
I absolutely love the last trilogy and so the last one was a little bit of a disappointment but still a fun enjoyable campaign
They’re going to ruin her character because of bunch of pink haired weirdos hate the fact that a Lara Croft raids tombs
Basically.
I think game bloggers (not qualifying as journalists) and rats on twitter will definitely make creating a game with an intelligent, attractive, powerful, straight, light-skinned woman a struggle.
It is truly pathetic that we even consider allowing people who don't even buy, play, or share these games control how games look and feel. Just saying it how it is
Oh get over yourself.
Wow. It seems like UA-cam shadow-hid my comment. Can anyone else see my first reply? Shady stuff
13:09 it's because you were not thinking outside the box!!! I've climbed mountains and reached places I was not suppose to... how many times the game flatout told me I'm out of bound and will be put back to the games map if I went any further... all thanks to the skills I obtained in skyrim... I call it the goat climb
man the reboot series was perfect, just give us more of that....
No give us classic with dual pistols and sassy character
@yunogasai1594 or give us a blend of both, like the guys were saying in the vid, that way everybody wins.
@@PsychoSavage88I think if you played the other like 18 other tomb raider games their vastly different from survivor
What's happened to Lara's face?
She looks like a real person vs old Lara who looked like a wedge of cheese.
@@ZiddersRooFurry Lara Croft is suppose to look like Lara Croft, Not Leon S. Kennedy from Resident Evil. I swear people like you in this day and age are so scared of femininity.
Lmao she does look like leon kennedy, wtf did they do to her its horrible@@BEAUTYTENGU
@@ZiddersRooFurryAre an lgbtq propagandist?
She is clearly a man!
Despite all shortcomings, I loved rebooted Tomb Raider trilogy, and it had some very strong points. If they can build upon what worked in that, reboot might be ok? I feel strongest element was finding tombs in open world and then epxlore, that feels pretty much how best open world games do it (Zelda for example).
Problem will open work is the lack of focus and the narrative basically loses any sense of urgency or weight and the nature of the open ended environment means some design limitations on character growth get thrown out of balance easily.
A good compromise might be the Dark SOULS SUB worlds type of design.
This doesn't make sense to me. Traveling around, different set pieces make sense to me.
Open world like a bloated AC Odyssey worries me. Everything is open world now. I can't be the only one with open world fatigue
Why cant we go back to linear
I enjoyed the trilogy, the first game was my favorite. I'm looking forward to more Tomb Raider but they have to keep Camilla Luddington. She was perfect as the voice of Lara, so many Greys Anatomy fans have no idea the American accent is fake.
This is so depressing 😞
I enjoyed and thought the last trilogy was pretty good for the most part. But the way the industry is going these days, I do not have high hopes for the next iteration of Tomb Raider.
Very random question but - can you tell me what brand these microphone-desk-stands are from? Or do you even have a link for it maybe?
When I played shadow the first time I didn't like it but after recently giving it a second chance I've realised how good it actually is tbh
Sounds like sweet baby inc got their hands on tomb raider
I just hope they keep the same gameplay mechanics. #1 reason Why i love those games so much
They won't. That kind of gameplay only exists because of the meticulously contained and structured environments, no matter how large they may seem.
So this is a pipe dream at best.
I don't know why anyone would be so naive as to think "If the environments are suddenly going to be 20x larger, surely it will have the same density of puzzling and parkour and normal Tomb Raider gameplay". Not without 20x the game budget and staff it ain't.
It became quite old, pretty quick. Not a fan of the 'Carry exactly 1 handgun + exactly 1 rifle + exactly 1 shotgun + exactly 1 bow' formula. Also, make bows a Hell of a lot less important and focus on the dual handguns. And, while we're at it : Stop forcing Lara into a mandatory crouching position, every single time there's an enemy anywhere around here - even if the player doesn't know it.
Nobody plays Tomb Raider to preserve culture.
There attempt to get a younger audience is alienating the audience that accurately pays for there games.
The audience that pays for these games is 45-50 years old, has to work 8-10 hours per day, is married, has children and couldn´t care less about Tomb Raider.... That is why is has to change
@@marklevy1785 no,yes,no,no,no
Her face is giving me “it’s ma’am” vibes.
You're really reaching with that one.
@@ZiddersRooFurryNot really. When I first saw her face I thought it was someone trolling by making her look a little man-ish.
have you seen a woman before except your mom?
@@ZiddersRooFurrySays the guy that's on every post that calls out this sillyness
@@otakuthegreatSays the guy who's mother is probably uglier than the new Fable lady.
Josh brings up how an open world Tomb Raider game might mimic a Far Cry game, but I'd be more worried about it being compared to Horizon (Zero Dawn; Forbidden West), games. Scott says, those games restrict your movement, but Forbidden West, does not. It has more free form climbing and includes tons of puzzle ruins and cauldrons aka Tombs. It also has collectibles and loot caches that require figuring out how to navigate to as well. It has mount and gliders, too. So, this would be my worry if I were a TR dev thinking about an open world experience since many recent games actually do open worlds well. Not every open world is a bloated, boring checklist game from Ubisoft in 2024. To think that, or try and mimic this is where it can go wrong.
I don't like what I'm listening about this game. Let's wait and see, I guess.
If you want a good Tomb Raider take it away from Crystal Dynamics and never let them touch Lara again. Give Tomb Raider to Aspyr and see what they can do with her. I would like Shift Up to get Tomb Raider. Have a hot Lara again with hopefully a good story and good action. That said, none of these things will happen so the franchise can just die. I have the remastered original games. I am good.
I hope they keep the puzzles. I can see the vision of an open world. I hope Toby Gard works on this project
Yahtzee just did a video on the stagnation of 3D platforming/traversal. So this leak seems timely.
I didn’t love the reboot trilogy. But I also recently played the remastered original trilogy and those don’t hold up as well as my nostalgia believe they would. So idk what I want now
Ill wait until it comes out for my final opinion on an open world design, but I'm not totally enthusiastic about it. I like linear games and I like open world games. Tomb Raider to me is always appealing as a linear game.
After the last trilogy, I do hope that it at least stays a mature game. I don't want to backtrack to a teen rated adventure.
I mean... it's an idea. I wouldn't go out of my way to call it a good idea. "Open world" is honestly just very overrated, oversaturated, and the depths and effort it has to go through to even be good are fairly extreme. What's Lara bringing to the table that Link isn't? Aside from a better looking game due to not being glued to being a shoddy Nintendo exclusive.
And that's just the weakest example. What does this bring that Genshin doesn't, or Bethesda's next ES/FO game? Is this better off than a more chapter and story oriented entry? Is this tradeoff worthwhile? I don't think so. I think this just bloats budget and dev time for an arguably weaker game at the end. Mostly, "Open World" games work due to a large cast and a lot going on... Link's the only one who gets away with painfully long stretches of solo wandering in massively empty lands, and only because Nintendo fanboys will flip their lids if you dare to point out that leaves the Zelda franchise at the bottom of the barrel for these types of games.
Lara's already dealing with that and without Nintendo's zombies... just stick to the more focused story and gameplay experience. You can make massive elaborate puzzles and sequences that way, rather than the massive trim down you need when it's just 1 of hundreds of "Open World" puzzles.
Personally I like the open hub version of tomb raider. I’m not a fan of open world but the world of tomb raider would fit a open world setting very well
It absolutely DOES NOT need to go open world. That will ruin it. The world design they had, the semi open world one, was perfect and they need to stick to that.
I want the new Lara Croft to be for Tomb Raider what the Daniel Craig era was for James Bond. Make the character more serious, emotionally complex, grounded and less of a caricature without losing the classic elements of cool, sex appeal, humour and grey morality that made the character fun and interesting. Making the character more "real" doesn't mean they have to be a wet mop.
Also apparently, has a girlfriend, who works with lara to train other tomb raiders and gives back collected artefacts 🤡 it's not lara, it's not tomb raider
I bought all the tomb raider games in GOG
Exploration could be cool in a game that really shoukd be about exploring. But getting that right is so, so hard. Ill bet they dont execute even if the concept is ok.
Played 1, 2, 3, last revelation, legend and 2013. Legend is by far the best.
Try anniversary and underwolrd if you liked legend
I hope they at least keep the insanely over the top deaths when you mess up. You don't jump out of the way you get crushed by a boulder. Take the wrong path down the river you get a tree branch through the head. They were so over the top wtf and they always made me laugh.
I first discovered Tomb Raider through the Angelina Jolie movie and immediately got Last Revelation because it was the only game I could get my hands on.
Can we all agree Tomb raider peaked on the PS1
Cmon man that's not so true is it? Yes, they were fantastic games for their time and we've got great memories but the 2013 trilogy was just absolutely incredible. Blew the originals out of the water in my opinion
@@bricktop. for me the new trilogy hasn’t got a patch on the originals
It peaked on Legends
Actually waiting for their take of Lara not raiding tomb anymore but none.
I HATE an open world! Give me a beginning and an end that i can follow and I am a happy camper. Some people don't want to have to travel all over some CRAZY world map.
I don't see a problem with more Uncharted-like games if they are done well, It's not like Naughty Dog are making a new one any time soon and the last one came out 8 years ago (unless you count Lost Legacy as a separate entry) so the market isn't really saturated.
RE9 Open World makes some type of sense to me, but I am not sure why. Tomb braider doesn't make sense to me.
Until a new game comes out, be prepared for more things like Lara Croft in the mobile game Hero Wars. Embracer is going the mine the IP for every penny they can.
Wait, didn't Embracer sold Tomb Raider off? Got confused.
tomb-raider should be "dark souls open world" not elden ring, but dark souls
The description sounds like just cause. I'd hate for tomb raider be like that
I hope they bring back Camilla and keep Lara’s face the same!
Imagine how dumb one has to be to think tomb raider has to be overhauled and the very thing to do it is D.E.I., the thing literally everyone that pays for media hates.
Didn't they sell the tomb raider rights to someone else?
The last trilogy just felt like they were going for an uncharted rip-off. That’s not Lara. She has a bland personality and no dual pistols. The remastered versions is the original ps1 games is what they should go for! It’s what the real fans REALLY WANT. They’re always trying to turn it into another game instead of keeping the essence of the originals and it just sucks to hear these news 😢 Hopefully, we can at least get a remastered versions of the fourth and fifth game
I have played the reboot trilogy and liked it quite a bit. So I recently bought Romb raider anniversary, legends and underworld. I understand why people love it so much, and now I know why people are pissed at Crystal for their "for modern audience" look. Such a shame that Lara is getting destroyed, she is such a badass.
Let's be sure to get rid of raiding tombs in Tomb Raider, that's for damn sure. In fact, raiders will be the bad guys. 🙄
I played Rise (which I enjoyed) and Shadow (not as much. Pretty boring and underwhelming final boss) back to back recently. I got tired them making the whole story about Trinity and Lara still stuck on her parent's death. It's ok to tackle those things, specially her parents, but one game was enough to it. Having her on the same emotional place got me tired. I thought her breakout was going to be when she got Jonah "killed" but no, it was the greatest moment that lasted nothing and she went back to being a kid who explores and casually kills.
This is the same issue that happened to Hitman when Absolution came out. They put drama into it and became a linear story that most people didn't like (although I personally enjoyed it for a change). However, IO Interactive quickly realized their mistake and went back to the original formula (sandbox) with improved mechanics etc. and we've had Hitman 1, 2 and 3 as top enjoyable games. Crystal Dynamics should take a note or two from IO Interactive on how to handle failure.
I love Tomb Raider because it's an action game with many enjoyable exploration and puzzles.
Y'all kept saying how no games are doing exploration right, took you long enough to acknowledge Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. 😅
Open world sure didn’t help Halo: Infinite.
I’m worried their going to screw this up! All you got to do is look at the disclaimer they added to the 1-3 remake. I enjoyed the last trilogy.
Uncharted Lost legacy ch4 with way better puzzles and platforming with coop would be amazing
I just don't ever want it to become an RPG game or a lifeless Open world, lacking hand crafted level design.
I stopped playing assassins creed because they changed the genre completely, i don't want this to happen with lara.
because it's really one of the only Adventure AAA Game remaining on the PC market,
I don't want 200 hours of soul less gameplay, but a polished gameplay with well-paced adventure, story and set pieces even if it's less than 10 hours of gameplay,
Is it true it will be called Tom the Raider now?
Tomb Raider is now Far Cry, then.