UPDATE: On the Nimis version, if you have at least 23% reduced cost on your Hateforge, you can take the whole tireless wheel, respecc the Berserking Cluster for another 3-point Jewel! You should then have a 23rage cost with a 47max Rage setup (unless you have different support gems). This doesn't work on the non-Nimis version because Returning projectiles Support has a 150% mana multiplier. Nimis pob updated
I've done exactly what you said or so i feel like.. However when I use volatility instead of returning proj after getting nimis. returning proj has 150% multiplier as u said but volatility has 130% only? my hateforge has 25% reduced cost but even with tireless wheel my rage cost on vaal LS is 26... so where do you get the remaining to get it down to 23 rage cost?
The true test of your PC capabilities isn't what frame rates you get or extreme settings you play at in this game or that game, it's how well can it handle a Palsteron's build.
You must be knew and not know about jousis, he's been doing this for years, but actually much worse where the instances can't actually handle it and crashes.
I am currently deep delving with this build. I switched from a flicker slayer to this and I am so happy with this build, really glad i got to do it before league got too far. Thank you for the build guide
I feel GGG probably regret creating Lightning Strike - it's such a problem child. Anyway, fascinating to see what you've done here. Nice, clear explanations in the video as well.
That enchant price, though.. Haha. I wish I could afford that. I'd definitely try this build. But I'm far too noob/broke to get to that in time. Rip me. Have fun with it, boys, looks fun asf!
cant wait to get this up and running. going to attempt to do it on a slayer just so i dont have to re level another character, but going to use it for a simulacrum runner anyways so it doesnt exactly need to be uber insane
@@pongan2k not yet, still needing the enchant on the weapon and to figure out how to re do the tree and it still be good. Hoping by Thursday I can have it running
honestly the enchant alone on a normal slayer ls build is already insane, you don't need any sort of perma vaal ls like palsteron has. But if you still want to then check out SebK's slayer, quite a bit different than this one.
a massive QoL is to get a "non-channeling mana cost while affected by clarity" on your watcher's eye letting you whirling blades/flame dash as if you were a non-rage bound LS
Love what you made Lightning strike into. Im currently following you Warden Lightning Strike guide. Would warden be able to do this? or am I going to need to make a scion?
haha never. just look at nimis price and the weapon + the enchant. and its only going to grow in popularity. nimis is goated this league for many builds and the runes for the enchants as well. only thing thats "cheap" about this is that it doesent use a mageblood. look at the jewels as well, big fat prices on those if you want good ones.
How much worse is the build if you craft the dagger with just the 3 suffix links and omit the "reforge influence" mod and just multimod? Still worth putting the enchant on? And if so I assume the multimod crafts would be ele pen + elemental damage with attacks?
And here i am back to POE want to try new build, i'll go with my ele deadeye for now Your PC should be high enough for this build too, anyway love the vid 👍
@@micaelschettine2754 your rage regen has to be at LEAST 17 to work/feel good. I would recommend higher. A quick fix is get Int on boots so you can change a couple of int small passive nodes to 8% mana regen with a 4c tattoo.
Maybe one day I'll be playing builds that have their passive trees optimized to reduce the load on the game client and servers for better performance. What the hell, that's a thing. I'm just sitting here chuckling at this reality.
I can't help but think that vaal blade vortex with this tech would be much less laggy and equally fun. I wonder if the need to scale skill effect duration for BV would mess up this interaction
Tested out Vaal flicker strike, it went crazy with 0 links. There’s not a ton of options because it has to be an attack skill, and it has to be a dagger skill
Well, hateforge is 20 div, the weapon vaal enchant is 60 div, nimis is 180 div and the weapon itself is not cheap either. I guess 120 div will suffice for the weapon. It seems more like 200 div are needed to get started without nimis. Especially as you don't wanna slap that 60 div enchant on any weapon "just to get started".
@@PowerfulSkeleton You pick your poison on what is luxury and what is necessary. Obviously if you have everything else, nimis is a luxury, if you don't have an equiv of the weapon shown, nimis is a necessity.
A sigil of power places down stage 1 automatically, i don't know if you will be able to cast it with the mana cost it has but level 20 first stage is 141 flat lightning damage.
Question for players who build that version. How many divines for the complete version (10 links at least) (I know enchant is 45 - 55d already!) I think palsteron spent 90d just on the dagger... I know prices is not the same...
II still haven't unlocked the craft because I can't find a single power rune... Really wish they were more accessible so I can at least make bases to sit in standard SSF until II eventually craft them into good weapons.
Not sure why but I insta die I have done as the build in POB says but yet insta die on single hit of a rank and file enemy not sure why, Will add this do not use this build I get a feeling there are info left out on this as again insta die with rank and file mobs on a white map T16 something does not add up at all DO NOT INVEST IN THIS BUILD rather go with something else do not waste your Divs on this
Looking at the graphs when you put down a lot of lightnight strikes, it seems like it's giving your CPU tremendous workload, while GPU is doing only fraction of the work. So downscaling shouldn't help much, if at all, unless the GPU is really slow. Having a fast CPU with fast RAM would be the key here
I have 47 Max rage with a 23 rage cost Vaal LS. However, I simply start the map with no rage and no way to magically generate it.... I can't cast things like FR or Temp Chains because they cost rage lol... how are you starting off with max rage?
This is already possible in standard for several years. If they have trouble with their servers it might have been fixed long time ago? But no question the low resolution sucks to watch because of the game laging.
can you give me a hint for the build on standard? I have the legacy soul catcher flask that gives 40% less soul gain prevention, but even with pathfinder's tree + all increased flask effect nodes grabbed on the passive tree (no belt/body armour enchantments), the soul gain window is still like 0.5s long
I think something is wrong with my build, when i dont have chain breaker i have mana regrn but when i have chain breaker i dont have any rage regen, what could possibly be wrong here :(
You need TONS of mana regen. I've had the same issue. Get more maximum mana% , mana regen % on your jewels. Get a very good Atziri amu with high rolls. With subpar items, this is just impossible, you need better rolls.
You need TONS of mana regen. I've had the same issue. Get more maximum mana% , mana regen % on your jewels. Get a very good Atziri amu with high rolls. With subpar items, this is just impossible, you need better rolls.
interesting thats is actually an affordable build besides the ring. and the gloves came way down in price. This might be the time im happy to be late to the party...oh that 15x power rune enchant ouch lol.
You can find the daggers for 50-70 div which is cheaper than the enchant itself. Just make sure you're getting a shaper influenced dagger, not a rune dagger.
Great fun build but be warned squish when it comes to bossing also its pretty self explanatory but you cant see most boss mechanics if the visuals are on the ground. Other than that great mapping but shit bossing...
Looking at the prices right now you can either get a mageblood or this. It's cool but i would get the belt or even an HH. Might try making one at the end of this league but right now i save and get the belt. 😂
4080 at 1080p you're bottlenecked so fucking hard lmao everything riding on your cpu while GPU probably doesn't break 30% usage (when you aren't like rendering a video or something ofc, and I know nothing about streamings impact) love the build though looks sick
@@Mmk-dn1fi gotcha. just saying that investing this much money into a build doesn't make much sense if you're just gonna farm simus with it. you could spend a lot less building a tanky character that can pretty much afk in simulacrums. less dps of course, but comfy.
@@Mmk-dn1fi you should be using an afk minion build like gam3r_report's to farm simulcrums so you can do something else while you do them lol... also the ROI is negative until you hit a 1pt voice so, good luck!
15 div hateforge, minimum of 60div for a weapon worth enchanting, another 60-70 div for the enchant itself, 6 div light of meaning, few div for the watchers eye, 6-8 combined div for the other jewels. so probably between 170-200div for the non-nimis version.
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UPDATE: On the Nimis version, if you have at least 23% reduced cost on your Hateforge, you can take the whole tireless wheel, respecc the Berserking Cluster for another 3-point Jewel! You should then have a 23rage cost with a 47max Rage setup (unless you have different support gems). This doesn't work on the non-Nimis version because Returning projectiles Support has a 150% mana multiplier.
Nimis pob updated
You said you can just self curse yourself… how is this possible when your curse costs rage now and you have zero rage to start?
Chainbreaker @@jakehoward3752
@@jakehoward3752 Try watching the part of the video explaining how the build works more carefully :)
Mana regen tattoo helps
I've done exactly what you said or so i feel like.. However when I use volatility instead of returning proj after getting nimis. returning proj has 150% multiplier as u said but volatility has 130% only? my hateforge has 25% reduced cost but even with tireless wheel my rage cost on vaal LS is 26... so where do you get the remaining to get it down to 23 rage cost?
The true test of your PC capabilities isn't what frame rates you get or extreme settings you play at in this game or that game, it's how well can it handle a Palsteron's build.
You must be knew and not know about jousis, he's been doing this for years, but actually much worse where the instances can't actually handle it and crashes.
@@Ferret_mcs old wormblaster, and servers/instance build are amazing
I am currently deep delving with this build. I switched from a flicker slayer to this and I am so happy with this build, really glad i got to do it before league got too far. Thank you for the build guide
that 45 div enchant to get started though. wish those runes were more common.
I wish, also looking at those Tormented spirit enchants @chriswilson
45? It's 60+ and climbing.
Big FOMO for those of us who are more casual players...
@HawooAwoo Just play another build and farm 8d/hr for a week in t16s, preferably something easily liquidated.
Just spent 90 div on the enchant
How much build finish div?
This build cured my epilepsy
because there is 0 fps
I'll tell you more, it cured my blindness
You mean caused 😂
@@AsanWrld Nope, the light was so bright that it literally opened my eyes🤣
It cured him by giving him death by epileptic seizures lol 😂
I have always admired your ability to put together cool builds pal.
When people need to ask for the PC technical requirements instead of the div budget for the build lol
i tried to carry my buddy through some delve with me and it just crashes him immediately, funniest thing in the world
Pity, that a casual like me will never get to this point. looks very nice!
Where frames?
I feel GGG probably regret creating Lightning Strike - it's such a problem child. Anyway, fascinating to see what you've done here. Nice, clear explanations in the video as well.
LS is the melee tornado shot.
That's an elaborate bait to fry my pc
That enchant price, though.. Haha. I wish I could afford that. I'd definitely try this build. But I'm far too noob/broke to get to that in time. Rip me. Have fun with it, boys, looks fun asf!
cant wait to get this up and running. going to attempt to do it on a slayer just so i dont have to re level another character, but going to use it for a simulacrum runner anyways so it doesnt exactly need to be uber insane
did u get it to work? :D
@@pongan2k not yet, still needing the enchant on the weapon and to figure out how to re do the tree and it still be good. Hoping by Thursday I can have it running
honestly the enchant alone on a normal slayer ls build is already insane, you don't need any sort of perma vaal ls like palsteron has. But if you still want to then check out SebK's slayer, quite a bit different than this one.
@crimo1692 yeah I kinda do want to do the constant vls, feel like this is the only league I'll be able to try it out lol
@pongan2k don't do it on slayer. I've spent way more than was needed and it never felt good. Stick with scion for it lol
If i have nimis and elemental damage with attacks on dagger what support do i put in in the place of returning proj?
a massive QoL is to get a "non-channeling mana cost while affected by clarity" on your watcher's eye letting you whirling blades/flame dash as if you were a non-rage bound LS
That YT compression. 💀
non-nimis POB: giga chad shav's rev ring ele resist
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There are people who play this game. Then there are people who play the game.
just to confirm, the main layer of defense here is leech/overleech, correct? is this full glass cannon?
Trying to understand how this works makes me wanna go back to RF
Love what you made Lightning strike into. Im currently following you Warden Lightning Strike guide. Would warden be able to do this? or am I going to need to make a scion?
UA-cam 1080p bitrate was not ready for this build. 💀
What do you replace awakened elemental damage with attacks with if you have that on the weapon?
you cooked with with this one 🔥🔥
finally i got here to cook my cpu ，it's a very fun build just fire those beams without thinking 😂
how do i solve the survivability problem i t17. I use the map regex but they one tap...
Just saw the leveling section at the end. As for total cost, seems like a good 300-350ish div if you want to include Nimis?
nimis + weapon is already 400 div (if you buy them)
so probably more like 500ish
haha never. just look at nimis price and the weapon + the enchant.
and its only going to grow in popularity. nimis is goated this league for many builds and the runes for the enchants as well. only thing thats "cheap" about this is that it doesent use a mageblood. look at the jewels as well, big fat prices on those if you want good ones.
How much worse is the build if you craft the dagger with just the 3 suffix links and omit the "reforge influence" mod and just multimod? Still worth putting the enchant on? And if so I assume the multimod crafts would be ele pen + elemental damage with attacks?
Not much worse. Build has essentialy tens and hundreds of millions dps. Its kinda broken.
Ppl have to remember this isnt just for ls but for any vaal skill that can use a dagger
With nimis my setups sometimes brick so i have to equip the shavronnes ring to gain rage again, how do i prevent this without switching around?
Can you do this build on warden i wonder
I do applaud for your innovative ideas, pal....
But, I don't know how my computer can handle that.😅
And here i am back to POE want to try new build, i'll go with my ele deadeye for now
Your PC should be high enough for this build too, anyway love the vid 👍
As much as I would love to play a powerful build like this, I won't because I don't like clutter, and this is 100% clutter
so i have a question why is it even when i have chainbreaker im not regning rage
me also! did u fix it?
@@micaelschettine2754 your rage regen has to be at LEAST 17 to work/feel good. I would recommend higher. A quick fix is get Int on boots so you can change a couple of int small passive nodes to 8% mana regen with a 4c tattoo.
Maybe one day I'll be playing builds that have their passive trees optimized to reduce the load on the game client and servers for better performance.
What the hell, that's a thing.
I'm just sitting here chuckling at this reality.
I can't help but think that vaal blade vortex with this tech would be much less laggy and equally fun. I wonder if the need to scale skill effect duration for BV would mess up this interaction
Uhhhh..... Does this work with other vaal skills?
Tested out Vaal flicker strike, it went crazy with 0 links. There’s not a ton of options because it has to be an attack skill, and it has to be a dagger skill
Would you say this build is doable on a 100-120div budget?
Well, hateforge is 20 div, the weapon vaal enchant is 60 div, nimis is 180 div and the weapon itself is not cheap either. I guess 120 div will suffice for the weapon. It seems more like 200 div are needed to get started without nimis. Especially as you don't wanna slap that 60 div enchant on any weapon "just to get started".
@@Raynhardx Nimis is also a luxury pickup, and not necessary.
@@PowerfulSkeleton You pick your poison on what is luxury and what is necessary. Obviously if you have everything else, nimis is a luxury, if you don't have an equiv of the weapon shown, nimis is a necessity.
Nope
Am I playing the build wrong? I always run out of mana when moving around the map with whirling blades..
A sigil of power places down stage 1 automatically, i don't know if you will be able to cast it with the mana cost it has but level 20 first stage is 141 flat lightning damage.
So this is not possible without the weapon enchant? Just wondering - that craft is expensive asf :D
The enchant is 100% gone next patch so I do not think rest of the build will get nerfed in 3.26
Question for players who build that version.
How many divines for the complete version (10 links at least) (I know enchant is 45 - 55d already!)
I think palsteron spent 90d just on the dagger...
I know prices is not the same...
Hey palsteron, can you explain why
Crit + Faster attacks + Reforge Crit
instead of
Crit + Crit + Reforge Speed
thanks!
Damn really should've bought myself a pair when they were @7div before this vid dropped
II still haven't unlocked the craft because I can't find a single power rune...
Really wish they were more accessible so I can at least make bases to sit in standard SSF until II eventually craft them into good weapons.
Not sure why but I insta die I have done as the build in POB says but yet insta die on single hit of a rank and file enemy not sure why, Will add this do not use this build I get a feeling there are info left out on this as again insta die with rank and file mobs on a white map T16 something does not add up at all DO NOT INVEST IN THIS BUILD rather go with something else do not waste your Divs on this
Does the off hand Crit multi from Tecrods Gaze affect this build ?
Any quick dirty guide on how to craft the dagger? Maybe even just a link to the vod
Check his profile he just posted the crafting video
Can this setup work with vaal firestorm? What would happen to the rage setpoint?
If you could accommodate gluttony of elements, you've just beat poe.
Can we get an updated "How to juice your maps" guide for 3.25?
Can we change the skill to other vaal? Like storm call?
Turning off sound is a huge fps improvement usually.
Looking at the graphs when you put down a lot of lightnight strikes, it seems like it's giving your CPU tremendous workload, while GPU is doing only fraction of the work. So downscaling shouldn't help much, if at all, unless the GPU is really slow. Having a fast CPU with fast RAM would be the key here
Why wouldn't you use more duration as a support for your lightning strike. It's just 50% more dmg, better than any other support right?
Lag. Its 50% more lag.
Can you just toss vaal haste in for free with this?
How many mirrors? Yes.
Very high investment build, requires a 4090 and 7900x
how many divines cost this build?
200 div enouigh for this?
do you have a lvling pob for the build ?
Would like to hear an estimate cost of build. Should I try to chase it or nah
500+ div including the Nimis 300+ without
Turn your PC in a oven
a build for winter times lol xD
I have 47 Max rage with a 23 rage cost Vaal LS. However, I simply start the map with no rage and no way to magically generate it.... I can't cast things like FR or Temp Chains because they cost rage lol... how are you starting off with max rage?
you don't have enough regen to overcome chainbreaker, check what you did wrong in pob
@@Palsteron ty
did u get hacked or smt u got no gear
can you league start with this?
Yeah no, i don't have the money to buy a new CPU and motherboard :D
Sick sick build though.
Now can I make it into vaal blade vortex? ;p
This is already possible in standard for several years. If they have trouble with their servers it might have been fixed long time ago? But no question the low resolution sucks to watch because of the game laging.
can you give me a hint for the build on standard? I have the legacy soul catcher flask that gives 40% less soul gain prevention, but even with pathfinder's tree + all increased flask effect nodes grabbed on the passive tree (no belt/body armour enchantments), the soul gain window is still like 0.5s long
Can you do this on Warden?
make sure to have the 5000 series of rtx before playing this build ;)
I think something is wrong with my build, when i dont have chain breaker i have mana regrn but when i have chain breaker i dont have any rage regen, what could possibly be wrong here :(
got the same issue, just completed the build, also saw alot of people complaining about the rage generation, let me know if u find a fix
@@robertm1743 any clue?
@@robertm1743 get more mana regen need more than 350-400
You need TONS of mana regen. I've had the same issue.
Get more maximum mana% , mana regen % on your jewels.
Get a very good Atziri amu with high rolls.
With subpar items, this is just impossible, you need better rolls.
You need TONS of mana regen. I've had the same issue.
Get more maximum mana% , mana regen % on your jewels.
Get a very good Atziri amu with high rolls.
With subpar items, this is just impossible, you need better rolls.
now... make it a poison build KEKW
I have about 500div, enough to copy your build?
As of 08/15, 150-200 divine should be enough.
How do you get your flask to recharge soo fast?
Pathfinder ascendency
original build pal cheers
interesting thats is actually an affordable build besides the ring. and the gloves came way down in price. This might be the time im happy to be late to the party...oh that 15x power rune enchant ouch lol.
You can find the daggers for 50-70 div which is cheaper than the enchant itself. Just make sure you're getting a shaper influenced dagger, not a rune dagger.
Is this possible on warden?
Works on every ascendency. Just don't do mana stacking
How do we get this enchant?
runesmith crafting in the kingsmarch town
Great fun build but be warned squish when it comes to bossing also its pretty self explanatory but you cant see most boss mechanics if the visuals are on the ground. Other than that great mapping but shit bossing...
why i cant susstain my rage?
You did something wrong, post the pob.
@@xasx999 just lack of mana regen, ty
Looking at the prices right now you can either get a mageblood or this. It's cool but i would get the belt or even an HH. Might try making one at the end of this league but right now i save and get the belt. 😂
😂😂😂
this build costs significantly more than a mageblood. Nimis, hateforge, dagger, dagger enchant is 300-400d alone.
@@adalos1953 gawd damn
4080 at 1080p you're bottlenecked so fucking hard lmao everything riding on your cpu while GPU probably doesn't break 30% usage (when you aren't like rendering a video or something ofc, and I know nothing about streamings impact) love the build though looks sick
How do you suggest leaguestarting scion?
How viable/comfortable would this build be for farming simulacrum? Anyone know?
seems overkill for simulacrums.
@@adalos1953 I’m just used to most builds getting 1shot on the last level, even if they are fairly tanky
@@Mmk-dn1fi gotcha. just saying that investing this much money into a build doesn't make much sense if you're just gonna farm simus with it. you could spend a lot less building a tanky character that can pretty much afk in simulacrums. less dps of course, but comfy.
@@Mmk-dn1fi you should be using an afk minion build like gam3r_report's to farm simulcrums so you can do something else while you do them lol... also the ROI is negative until you hit a 1pt voice so, good luck!
REDUCE LAG TATTOOS LESGOOOO
whats a budget for this build?
The budget version is without nimis. You still need the enchant, so the budget version is going to still cost well over 100 div.
15 div hateforge, minimum of 60div for a weapon worth enchanting, another 60-70 div for the enchant itself, 6 div light of meaning, few div for the watchers eye, 6-8 combined div for the other jewels. so probably between 170-200div for the non-nimis version.
@@Cantstop991 Enchant itself is pushing closer to 100 div with power runes at over 5 div now.
Couldn't see anything in the fight... one of the biggest problems with this game.
So they nerfed the elemental penetration tincture but not this?
Sap of the Seasons was 12+ digits worth of damage. This isn't even in the same ballpark.
Incoming NERF! I mean hotfix.
Is this ps5 viable?
Lol no. Get a pc cuckboy
Oh cool another build I can't play this league because I haven't had a mirror drop going into the 3rd week of the league.
hateforge jetzt 3 mal so teuer nach nur 2 std
SSF players probably can't reach that XD
Hateforge 80D alone on console 😆 never going to get here
New build :0
It's ls 😢
nah im cool i dont want to destroy my PC lmao