@@kirkjordan8718 I know, even though they’re terrible. Still, that’s a big arena for a minor league team. The Everblades, who play close to the Gulf, have a 7,000 seat arena, but they’re the only team using it now
just being honest, the yotes should literally just bunk bed their games with their minor league affiliate until the league finds a permanent location for them. It would be hilarious because Monument/Rushmore center shares the parking lot with the high school. But the thing is having their minor league team local would actually benefit the yokes AND they'd probably have no problem selling tickets in RC because the Rush have no problem selling tickets. It's just that I'd probably pay more to see a Rush game because they'd be the ones to stay you'd think.
@@kirkjordan8718 I don’t think the NHL is going to put them in the 4th least populous state, especially halfway across the continent from where they are now. They could have tried to work something out with Tucson, where their AHL affiliate plays, but the NHL has consistently done everything wrong with this franchise since they took it out of Winnipeg in the 90s. It’s easily the most consistent thing Bettman has done, besides sucking at his job.
If the Ottawa Senators announced that they were moving into the Carleton Ice House while they waited for their Labreton Flats rink to be built, do you think the NHL would allow it, or would they be moved to Houston or Kansas City the following week? I'm sick to death of the double standard that exists around this one franchise and the lengths they will go to keep this franchise alive well past its expiry date. It is high time to admit that this marriage is over and seek a divorce.
They'll never admit it, the league wants to try and gain in markets like the desert while taking for granted that everyone in Canada is going to watch the games anyway.
The thing is that Arizona doesn’t tax the teams as hard as other markets which is why you see almost no people but the team being still there is that they make more money off of a half empty stadium every night than moving to a market with higher taxes like in Canada. The only place coyotes will go is maybe Houston but idk if they would want another team in Texas
If let's say they had to move while the Labreton arena was being built, they'd more likely move to the TD Place Arena (aka the old Civic Centre). It currently hosts the 67s and used to host the Senators (and interesting fact also hosted the short lived Ottawa Nationals of the WHA). It is not a great arena and a condition of Ottawa rejoining the NHL was the team needed a better rink than the old Civic Centre which is why the Canadian Tire Centre is where it is... aka not an ideal location as it was the only land available they could build on at the time. But, the situation in Arizona is a unique situation as I don't think an NHL team has played in such a small and low capacity arena since the 1950s. This is positively ridiculous! The Hartford Whalers rejoining the NHL is considered a pipedream because they'd play out of a mall arena, but Coyotes playing out of a University Arena is somehow worse than Hartford's XL Center as it can at least hold 15,000 fans at minimum! Hartford's "mall arena" is more respectable than where Arizona plans to play! What a joke! This is a clear double standard by the NHL and there should be ZERO excuse to ever threaten to move a Canadian franchise again if they allow this!
The problem with arizona is they do all there advertising in the east valley but they play more in the west valley. it's so bad to the point I had to ask my class, "dose anyone know we have a professional hockey team" and only 2/34 people knew... most of my school lives 10-15 mins away from the arena but when you ask anyone about hockey in the east valley almost everyone at least knows the coyotes exsit. another problem is there's no good, reliable public transportation to get to the arena.
@@tylerkochman1007 Where is the Sun Devil Stadium?... Pretty sure it's next to that big freaking hill with the Metro Rail adjacebt to the Tempe Transportation Center... on the college campus Don't forget that hockey season is during school session for ASU students
@@MarloSoBalJr news flash, Metro Rail opened in 2008. Cardinals played at Sun Devil from 1988 until 2005. So there was no rapid transit there when they played there. Kinda like how the framers of the constitution never could eat Subway Sandwiches despite the fact that one exists several blocks from Independence Hall. Just because things are there now does not mean they always were there.
The fact that Bettman and his goons are willing to keep jumping through hoops for the Coyotes makes no sense. NHL never wanted to help out the Canadian teams this much when they were suffering in the 90's. Hell all of them almost all went bankrupt and they were given less of a chance to survive than Arizona has in 9 years. Houston literally has an owner begging for a team (I'd like the Nordiques back like everyone else just to get a chance to own their sick jerseys but we all know that Houston is #1 on the list for the next franchise) and the NHL wont just rip the Coyotes from the current owners hands for some reason even though they basically COMMITTED AND TRIED TO GET AWAY WITH TAX EVASION.
arizona's best yr isnt even the old teams worst yr, imagine how low the salary cap is because of this team. every fan base should be mad at the league and arizona everytime their team has to get rid of a star player
No, he really doesn’t. That’s just objectively not true. I’m so sick and tired of all you idiots taking cheap shots at a team with average attendance. Yeah, I get it, the Yotes are poorly run and a meme. But the fan base is passionate and is not tiny. Just shut up with these “jokes” already, they’re just spreading blatant misinformation at this point
As a fan, I would absolutely love to go watch an NHL game that has a very small capacity seating. I know that isn't good for the team nor the league, but just on the selfish fan level it would be pretty cool
With all due respect to the few long suffering Coyotes fans, how long is the league going to keep that team on life support? In any other league, they'd be long gone. It's a long dead franchise. Answer: As long as Bettman is commish, they're not going anywhere. I swear, there's someone who so desperately wants to keep the team there that's they're blackmailing, extorting or bribing him. Maybe it's all 3 because look at the lengths they're going to keep the team there. At this point, it's the only logical conclusion I can come to.
@@MarloSoBalJr that probably true, but still a dumb reason to susadize a team there. And Florida has golf courses too. And beaches. Personaly, I think he buried a few bodies there and the coyotes is the price for silence.
As someone who lives in Saskatoon, this is just a kick in the nuts lol. We could have had the St. Louis Blues but we're too "small" yet we sellout the Roughriders stadium every single game and could definitely manage a measly 5k fans, which Arizona won't even reach
Ikr, I'm tired bettman's BS that Canadian cities are too small (Quebec city, Saskatoon/Regina, Hamilton, etc.) while "big" places in the US (Florida, Arizona, Buffalo, etc.) somehow fail to have more home fans than away!!!
underrated part of this segment: Steve found the 13-14 attendance number for the Central Hockey League, and some of them had attendances that were higher than the potential total capacity for this new ASU building. The Central Hockey League FOLDED in 2014, so apparently they weren't doing great anyway
Unless the Tempe project is approved this plan should not move forward. It would be not only a waste of money and continue the suffering of the fans and the fiscal instability of this franchise. Move the team to Houston or Quebec. Then take the 40mil and build the practice facility with extra public rinks and use the leftovers to start a community hockey program to build the fan base of the future. The best example I can use is Tampa. The Lighting invests heavily in outreach and building roller, outdoor, and ice rinks. They have a team that travels the area and teaches the game. They run excellent summer programs. Conversely, The Tampa Bay Rays baseball team does none of this and finds itself in the same spot as the Coyotes. They never invested in the community or fanbase to build long-term support via grassroots efforts. You have to be part of the community if you want to have a successful long-term sports franchise.
As a Yotes fan who lives in Phoenix, a smaller capacity arena isn’t the worst thing, we got a lot of empty seats, not to mention the fact that half of the fans every game are wearing the opposing team’s jerseys. It was beautiful when our boys beat the Maple Leafs at home this year, because you got to see a lot of fans in blue jerseys looking like sad pandas! That’s what we live for, to see all of the opposing team’s fans in our house walking out of the building with long faces after one of our rare wins. Will take them all though! Go Yotes!
I'd love for someone to find out where would this franchise would have lost more money? If they had stayed in Winnipeg or if they had moved to Phoenix?
Great question, but if this happened in Canada Bettman would have moved the team at least a decade ago. I could not see them losing this much money in Winnipeg. No matter what the year(s). Just sad...
The fact of the matter is that Phoenix is the 6-7th largest market in the country, so they should be making a butt-load more revenue... There are no excuses for why they're 💩 broke
Bettman can make 5 times that amout if he put the team in Quebec. The Quebecor group is in the fortune 500 of the best out their and they built a brand new NHL approved 14000 arena. And have been selling season tickets since 2014 to over 5000 customers. No brainer right? Bettman hates Canadian market.
@@justinalley3399 last time it wasn't a failure, let me remind you that the Quebec Nordiques team, became the Avalanche, and they won the cup the year after, season tickets were sold out. The loss of the team was the peak of 130% in fees to NHL teams that separated the millionaires from the sports. NHL is the poor pro sports in USA, but in Canada, we have hockey, and soccer. So get your sht right, and come back with a sentence.
@@turtlebite7060 sorry, I don't understand your comment. It does not reflect the 1994 reality, and if you don't know about this dossier, then I suggest you inform yourself before making such comments. The ligue was fine, but mr butt man had to go lobby for cities willing to take a team pronto, and then and only then, one year later that he implanted his new franchise costs, and didn't consider the dollar, and was bound to remove any if all Canadian legacy in hockey. I'm all for the return of a team in Quebec, they got a brand new arena 15000. Full every night 100% sure, merchandise from nhl shop will go bonkers every night, season tickets pre sold for 5000 investors since 2015. No brainer, but it's all about the lobby, and buttman is a giver to his own, and knows since Winnipeg are back how Canadians love hockey, full seats sold every night.
@@redpillfreedom6692 I'd love to see that, actually. I'm a Coyotes fan who lives in Kansas, and I wouldn't mind driving to Kansas City to see a few games. That's what gets me: The NHL treats the 'Yotes like trash, but there are no shortage of fans in Arizona. It's as if popular support doesn't mean anything. This reminds me of the Montreal Expos, back in the day.
@@redpillfreedom6692 Kansas City makes the most sense because of exclusive rights to the arena but Houston would be a go-to for players wanting a tax leniency
If I’ve learned anything in my life, it’s that this whole situation with the coyotes is absolutely ridiculous and that AZ is not a good hockey market. Sure there are fans, but the franchise is run terribly. And just because there may be fans, doesn’t mean the market is good. Yet, Bettman for some reason insists on beating this dead horse, and not only that, then taking the carcass of said horse and bashing nhl fans and the rest of the league with it. I’m sorry, coyotes faithful. But I honestly can’t see a reason why this should continue and I can’t believe we’re still talking about it in 2022
The New York Islanders were not allowed to play more than just the first round in the 13k seated Nassau Coliseum in the 2018 playoffs due to it "not meeting NHL standards." Now the NHL is agreeing to let the Cyotes play in a 5k seated arena for 3-4 years. its a joke. if it goes through I hope they make the playoffs so the NHL loses even more money.
According to wikipedia, there are 13 CHL teams with average attendance greater than 5k (18-19). Quebec Ramparts (9230), London Knights, Halifax Mooseheads, Edmonton Oil Kings, Calgary Hitmen, Kitchener Rangers, Spokane Chiefs, Portland Winterhawks, Everett Silvertips, Regina Pats, Moncton Wildcats, Oshawa Generals, and Niagara IceDogs
Screw that the Charlottetown Islanders (QMJHL) would bring in about as much as the Coyotes next year! The city of Charlottetown PEI which has a population of 36,000 people could support this team at this point! What a joke! Just move the team to Houston as the fans in Arizona deserve so much better than this trash franchise that thinks a university arena is good enough for an NHL team!
@@drexxler138 yet here we are with numerous successful NHL franchises in Canada. Business climate isn't part of the criteria for the NHL to approve franchises. That is the decision of the investors or potential ownership.
The best move would be playing down in Tucson Arizona. Where there are multiple arenas much bigger. The TCC where the Roadrunners play seat almost double the amount asu would. And Mckale Memorial Center hosts over triple the amount. Just saying there are momentary places in Arizona just as big. They just are in places further from Phoenix and Glendale
@@turtlebite7060 So where are they?... What's the next excuse?... Them playing in Glendale and not in Scottsdale is why the team is unsuccessful. SMFH🤦
The NHL wouldn’t allow the Islanders to play a full season in a refurbished 13,900 seat Nassau Coliseum until the second pandemic shortened season in 2020-21. It wasn’t fair to the team and the fans. Barclays Center (not built for hockey) only had a 15,800 seat capacity for hockey. The coliseum was rocking in the 2021 playoffs because Long Island is where the fan base lives. Not NYC. The NHL wants a team in a market that doesn’t give a damn about them in the slightest. It’s a joke.
They’ve been bleeding money since their days in Winnipeg for a long time. They don’t have stability for much of their existence, and that’s depressing to say the least.
not even that much, if they have to remove seats to make it "NHL" ready then will be much less. like the 3200 number... for fucks sakes they could move the team to Indianapolis and play in Indiana Farmers Coliseum and have damn near double that amount (6200) lol, and even better move it to Conseco Fieldhouse and be able to have 12,300. god arizona is a bloody joke.
The really painful part about this is, there _are_ hockey fans in Arizona. They deserve better than this. Lest we forget, about 15 years ago, one of those fans was a little boy named Auston Matthews...
The Monument in Rapid City, South Dakota seats more people than this arena. That building is the home rink for the Coyotes ECHL team. Move the team to Quebec already
The other 31 teams can opt to buy out those contracts or a "special" draft would take place. Coyotes oughta to fold if Bettman decides to bury this franchise into oblivion
Move them temporarily to our new AHL arena being built for the Coachella Valley Firebirds. Should be finished by the start of the season. Only a 4 hour drive from Phoenix. 10k seats.
"Multi-purpose arena" sounds so bush league, like it's the spare gym at the local highschool where they store the old mats and bleachers they don't use anymore.
Except that it is a brand new, state-of-the art facility. What makes it multipurpose is that it will also be home to the gymnastics and wrestling teams. That is typical fo4 NCAA arenas.
Honestly though, which would get larger crowds: Coyotes playing in Arizona or Coyotes playing in a random small Canadian town with like 10 000 population and a home arena of an old outdoor high school hockey rink that has been worn down since the 80s?
I joked about this earlier, but Charlottetown could support this team! They average about 3000 fans a game for the Islanders, I'm sure they could support an NHL team if all it takes is 3500 a game... and that city has a population of 36,000 people. What a joke!
I have an idea that would make sense. Since the Coyotes have struggled with attendance for so many years, I think it would be interesting to move the team temporarily to Houston or Quebec City to see if the fans would support the team. I don't think there is any question the fans in Quebec would support the team, but uncertain about Houston. This scenario would be similar to how the Montreal Expos played some "home games" in San Juan, Puerto Rico in their last season as the Expos. I don't really think that this will happen, but it would be interesting to see if the fan support would be better in a different city.
AZ Vets Memorial Col is a DUMP. There is NO reason at all to throw money at that building. Investing in the ASU building not only improves the ASU hockey program's situation, but finally gets the Coyotes a (temporary) home on the east side of the valley where they should've been in the first place. I really wonder how history would've gone if the Los Arcos site had happened back in 97.
I've talked about this for years; Bettman will stop at nothing to cement his legacy of making hockey in non-traditional markets work and while it has worked wonderfully in some, he clearly will do whatever to keep it afloat in Arizona. This franchise's a joke and making the whole league look as professional as the ABA in Semi-Pro; let natural selection run its course and kill it already!!
Coyotes are the biggest joke in professional sports. They've had 1 playoff run in over 25 years. What an absolute joke. The fact that the NHL won't just cut ties and admit defeat is so pathetic. Move it to a market that actually wants it.
This franchise will go down in Business Management text books as the model of an exercise in futility. They have surpassed even The Florida Panthers (currently in a Renaissance of their own! But pretty sure when they start losing again, we'll be watching a 3/4 empty arena again; is it even 3/4 full now? PS: When, WHEN, are they going to put their TV camera position in a spot where we can actually watch the game from, instead of Row 20? Holy crap) in hopeless fan support and management.
Gary 'Batman' is actually embarrassing the NHL at this point. I cannot believe that a professional sports team is being allowed to get away with ALL this. It's ok to admit defeat and just relocate the team.
That’s true the nhl doesn’t have ownership of the team it’s the investments and 2 billionaires that have committed to desert to keeping the team in Arizona has 4 higher broadcasting revenues here in states Phoenix is big city
This is like the classic movie "Slapshot", where the owner was more interested in the team losing for tax write off purposes. It's incredible that the NHL actually seems okay with this lunacy. Their owner makes the late Harold Ballard look like a genius by comparison. This is like a bad TV show you need to turn off, but can't find the remote.
capacity “around 3200, if they take out the stands to build locker rooms” is perhaps the most ridiculous statement I’ve heard in 2022 so far. I’m truly sympathetic to Yotes fans, but good lord, you’ve got to be realistic. Every single thing capable of doing so *has in fact* gone tits-up with this organization. Sell the dang team and either move it, or get dead-serious about walking-the-walk with plans for their future survival, because that’s what it would be if they stay in AZ. When the Minnesota Vikings played at UM for 2 seasons, at least they were already constructing the new building, and the capacity wasn’t laughably below standard. The Yotes don’t even have an agreement with any city for any building yet, much less have they begun to break ground or actually build a place to play hockey. Are they really going to attempt a 3200 capacity arena for 2 full seasons? I acknowledge that the fans who are there are passionate and this is no dig on them, but AZ is already lacking awareness of their existence; Playing in an arena with 1/4 of the capacity of the flipping Wimbledon tennis final is just too sad and too much embarrassment for the league to endure. I’m still in complete disbelief that this is a real conversation that’s actually happening.
i live in wisconsin and there are hockey fans everywhere in the state, hockey is played by many and we still don't have a team. i know its small market but the bucks and packers seem to be doing just fine here and the state backs team like no other. when i found out about the krakken i shook my head, give us the dam team we will support it.
@@MarloSoBalJr The issue is that the Footprint Center wasn't built with a hockey rink in mind, thus the sightlines were terrible for hockey. One of the goals was obstructed at one end of the arena because the upper deck hung over the goal.
There have been teams in various leagues in the past(admittedly the distant past) that would be barnstormers, they’d lack a home park/arena and would always be the road team. Maybe the Coyotes can do this?
@@shaynekempton3368 I never said it was a good idea, but it would still be better than putting them in an arena that’s 1/4 the capacity of the rest of the league
I know the NHL does not want to relocate because they lose a lot of money from relocating rather than expanding. So before the situation gets worse like Atlanta where they were forced to move the team right away, Why not have the NHL buy back the team and then Auction the team off to the highest bidder with a few stipulations. Have Quebec, Houston, Kansas City all fight over the team and see what one of them is willing to offer.
Gary Bettman is willing to severely damage the league to keep one franchise in one metropolitan area. Imagine if he lobbied this damn hard for the other teams in trouble(original Jets/Nordiques/Thrashers) over the years? Imagine signing a player and that player might not even get paid…
They building a new arena just in time for Matthews homecoming. I hear from very reliable sources that he hates playing there, that's why he only signed for 5 years. Dubas offered him 8 years 15 million per year and he turned it down.
im still confused why the coyotes cant play at the veterans memorial arena in downtown phoenix for the interim... seats 13,000 people... I'm born and raised in Phoenix and nobody seems to care about this team, I wish they would just move somewhere with a real fan base for the sake of the players. The cardinals play in Glendale too, but always have a packed arena, so saying Glendale is the problem isn't really true- people just don't care.
Arizona, the only place where you can get numerous arenas built for a team nobody wants. This joke of a franchise has been given a ton chances to turn it around and failed horribly. The unstable ownership and mismanagement on every level has made this team an embarrassment to the entire NHL. I do feel bad for the fans that have stayed loyal to such a poorly run team.
First time I'm actually watching a clip from the podcast and Steve's swearing is so funny he has the censor himself on his other channels and for sportsnet but god damn it when he swears he is five times funnier.
Why don't they use the coyotes as a test bed for a city or 2? Have them play in a place that may be in the running for a possible relocation to see the reception. A place like Portland (whose arena was actually built for a hockey rink) could be a good place to play to see if the people would support a pro hockey team.
I don't understand why the NHL is so dead set on making Arizona work. Houston is right there and an even bigger market. Didn't the Aeros outdraw the Coyotes?
Not to mention Houston has an owner in waiting, an actual NHL sized arena ready to go, and with Arizona moving to the central this year there would be no realigning of the conference. Add to it, think of the Dallas/Houston natural rivalry. That would be a great series to see.
So Winnipeg loses their team for this joke of a franchise for 15 years and this franchise can’t even find a home to play in ,and they get to stay in the league, like what an effing joke, there’s a reason why a Canadian team hasn’t won a Stanley cup since Bettman has been Commissioner of the league. This favouritism for American teams has got to stop
If Toronto didn't have to bankroll teams like Arizona's with our attendance cash then we could probably be having fans in the stands right at this moment.
The only reason they're in this situation is that their current ownership is incompetent. The tea leaves were out there in 2020 that the City of Glendale may end the lease because they have an out by 2022. The NHL, in an effort to keep the team in the Phoenix market, kept selling this team to rich idiots over and over. The team has changed hands 7 times since moving from Winnipeg. This is a joke, I don't want the Coyotes to relocate but the NHL has not done a good job by this "keep them their at all cost" mentality. And I feel for fans who were told their market is too small or not right for the NHL (like Hamilton, Saskatoon, Quebec City), who have to see this situation go down. It's embarrassing for the league.
arizona is a bastion of corruption it’s hard to feel bad, like team like state… how was hockey supposed to flourish in the desert again? i’d give atlanta a 3d shot at this point if i was Gary
total joke; a 2nd team in Winnipeg would draw better lol the rink in Tucson holds more approx 7000 and it draws about 3k per game; but tickets are 20 to 30 bucks only
LOL their minor league team in Rapid City has more capacity.
Tampa’s ECHL team, the Orlando Solar Bears, play in a 17,000 seat arena. That’s 2 levels down from the NHL, by the way
@@LighthawkTenchi Orlando Magic are huge in Orlando.
@@kirkjordan8718 I know, even though they’re terrible. Still, that’s a big arena for a minor league team. The Everblades, who play close to the Gulf, have a 7,000 seat arena, but they’re the only team using it now
just being honest, the yotes should literally just bunk bed their games with their minor league affiliate until the league finds a permanent location for them. It would be hilarious because Monument/Rushmore center shares the parking lot with the high school. But the thing is having their minor league team local would actually benefit the yokes AND they'd probably have no problem selling tickets in RC because the Rush have no problem selling tickets. It's just that I'd probably pay more to see a Rush game because they'd be the ones to stay you'd think.
@@kirkjordan8718 I don’t think the NHL is going to put them in the 4th least populous state, especially halfway across the continent from where they are now. They could have tried to work something out with Tucson, where their AHL affiliate plays, but the NHL has consistently done everything wrong with this franchise since they took it out of Winnipeg in the 90s. It’s easily the most consistent thing Bettman has done, besides sucking at his job.
If the Ottawa Senators announced that they were moving into the Carleton Ice House while they waited for their Labreton Flats rink to be built, do you think the NHL would allow it, or would they be moved to Houston or Kansas City the following week?
I'm sick to death of the double standard that exists around this one franchise and the lengths they will go to keep this franchise alive well past its expiry date.
It is high time to admit that this marriage is over and seek a divorce.
You are correct, but please don't give Melnyk any ideas.
They'll never admit it, the league wants to try and gain in markets like the desert while taking for granted that everyone in Canada is going to watch the games anyway.
The thing is that Arizona doesn’t tax the teams as hard as other markets which is why you see almost no people but the team being still there is that they make more money off of a half empty stadium every night than moving to a market with higher taxes like in Canada. The only place coyotes will go is maybe Houston but idk if they would want another team in Texas
If let's say they had to move while the Labreton arena was being built, they'd more likely move to the TD Place Arena (aka the old Civic Centre). It currently hosts the 67s and used to host the Senators (and interesting fact also hosted the short lived Ottawa Nationals of the WHA). It is not a great arena and a condition of Ottawa rejoining the NHL was the team needed a better rink than the old Civic Centre which is why the Canadian Tire Centre is where it is... aka not an ideal location as it was the only land available they could build on at the time. But, the situation in Arizona is a unique situation as I don't think an NHL team has played in such a small and low capacity arena since the 1950s.
This is positively ridiculous! The Hartford Whalers rejoining the NHL is considered a pipedream because they'd play out of a mall arena, but Coyotes playing out of a University Arena is somehow worse than Hartford's XL Center as it can at least hold 15,000 fans at minimum! Hartford's "mall arena" is more respectable than where Arizona plans to play! What a joke! This is a clear double standard by the NHL and there should be ZERO excuse to ever threaten to move a Canadian franchise again if they allow this!
Nhl would allow it
I laughed soo hard when Steve said "there are hockey fans in Arizona, AND THERE IS NO WHERE FOR THEM TO SIT!" lmao
You know it's bad when you are behind Pierre Dorian saying "we're a team" lol
The NHL's Bruce Allen (The Culture is actually damn good)
The problem with arizona is they do all there advertising in the east valley but they play more in the west valley. it's so bad to the point I had to ask my class, "dose anyone know we have a professional hockey team" and only 2/34 people knew... most of my school lives 10-15 mins away from the arena but when you ask anyone about hockey in the east valley almost everyone at least knows the coyotes exsit. another problem is there's no good, reliable public transportation to get to the arena.
New arena is supposed to be just a few blocks from the light rail
@@tylerkochman1007 Guess what?... Traffic would be a dire nightmare. On a college campus!!
@@MarloSoBalJr college town. Not on the campus itself. Arizona Cardinals played directly on that campus for decades without any public transit there.
@@tylerkochman1007 Where is the Sun Devil Stadium?... Pretty sure it's next to that big freaking hill with the Metro Rail adjacebt to the Tempe Transportation Center... on the college campus
Don't forget that hockey season is during school session for ASU students
@@MarloSoBalJr news flash, Metro Rail opened in 2008. Cardinals played at Sun Devil from 1988 until 2005. So there was no rapid transit there when they played there.
Kinda like how the framers of the constitution never could eat Subway Sandwiches despite the fact that one exists several blocks from Independence Hall. Just because things are there now does not mean they always were there.
The fact that Bettman and his goons are willing to keep jumping through hoops for the Coyotes makes no sense. NHL never wanted to help out the Canadian teams this much when they were suffering in the 90's. Hell all of them almost all went bankrupt and they were given less of a chance to survive than Arizona has in 9 years. Houston literally has an owner begging for a team (I'd like the Nordiques back like everyone else just to get a chance to own their sick jerseys but we all know that Houston is #1 on the list for the next franchise) and the NHL wont just rip the Coyotes from the current owners hands for some reason even though they basically COMMITTED AND TRIED TO GET AWAY WITH TAX EVASION.
arizona's best yr isnt even the old teams worst yr, imagine how low the salary cap is because of this team. every fan base should be mad at the league and arizona everytime their team has to get rid of a star player
“This arena only has 5,000 seats, you sure this is a good idea?”
“Don’t worry, it’ll make it look like more people actually come to our games”
Are you sure it's going to sell out on any night of the week?
I will never get over the fact that Bettman chose to believe in this team over Atlanta. It will never stop pissing me off.
hate to agree with marchand but he’s has a point
Once again, Brad Marchand steps forward as the voice of reason in the NHL. 🤣
They need to sell 4500 tickets to sell out
No, he really doesn’t. That’s just objectively not true. I’m so sick and tired of all you idiots taking cheap shots at a team with average attendance. Yeah, I get it, the Yotes are poorly run and a meme. But the fan base is passionate and is not tiny. Just shut up with these “jokes” already, they’re just spreading blatant misinformation at this point
@@ketamineaddict156 triggered
@@seikoshinohara3084 wow what a productive and useful response
I lost it at “do they have sticks?”
Quebec could fill an arena with 15000-20000 people 82 nights a year plus playoffs, but yeah makes sense to leave the coyotes in arizona
I'm a Leafs fan and I support the sarcastic nature of this message.
I'd support this as long as those beautiful Nordique jerseys were brought back.
MTL will never let that happen. Sorry But the Canadians are the franchise hold Quebec back
Impressive, since there's only 41 home games
I hear ya,but there's more to the Quebec deal than fan support. We know theyd have fan support,but probably still lose money.
I think the Coyotes have made Steve more angry than the Leafs
As a fan, I would absolutely love to go watch an NHL game that has a very small capacity seating. I know that isn't good for the team nor the league, but just on the selfish fan level it would be pretty cool
It would be a ton of fun as a fan..! But how embarassing for a professional team
Guess how much the tickets will be?...
5,000 seats for metropolitan area of 3 million(?) residents. None of this adds up!
Jesse : "If they cut out seats to build locker rooms.." what seats can they spare? they're going to be getting changed in trailers outside.
Do they even have toilets?... I mean damn!
With all due respect to the few long suffering Coyotes fans, how long is the league going to keep that team on life support? In any other league, they'd be long gone. It's a long dead franchise.
Answer: As long as Bettman is commish, they're not going anywhere. I swear, there's someone who so desperately wants to keep the team there that's they're blackmailing, extorting or bribing him. Maybe it's all 3 because look at the lengths they're going to keep the team there. At this point, it's the only logical conclusion I can come to.
Remember when the nhl itself had to own the team??🤣this would make a great comedy movie!
I wish i knew why Arizona is the hill Bettman chose to die on. Its embarrassing at this point.
@@smithryansmith He loves the golf courses there. During the winter, Arizona is a great place
@@MarloSoBalJr that probably true, but still a dumb reason to susadize a team there. And Florida has golf courses too. And beaches.
Personaly, I think he buried a few bodies there and the coyotes is the price for silence.
@@TheChronicFiend I can GUARANTEE the league would NEVER go that far to help out any Canadian team...
As someone who lives in Saskatoon, this is just a kick in the nuts lol. We could have had the St. Louis Blues but we're too "small" yet we sellout the Roughriders stadium every single game and could definitely manage a measly 5k fans, which Arizona won't even reach
Hell, the bloody Brandt Centre is bigger.
Kickass poutine, too.
Ikr, I'm tired bettman's BS that Canadian cities are too small (Quebec city, Saskatoon/Regina, Hamilton, etc.) while "big" places in the US (Florida, Arizona, Buffalo, etc.) somehow fail to have more home fans than away!!!
This clip will end up with more viewers then people allowed in that arena.
lool
underrated part of this segment: Steve found the 13-14 attendance number for the Central Hockey League, and some of them had attendances that were higher than the potential total capacity for this new ASU building. The Central Hockey League FOLDED in 2014, so apparently they weren't doing great anyway
Apparently for Arizona hockey that's pretty good :/
5:00 - "They're Hockey fans in Arizona but NOWHERE TO SEAT!"
Unless the Tempe project is approved this plan should not move forward. It would be not only a waste of money and continue the suffering of the fans and the fiscal instability of this franchise. Move the team to Houston or Quebec. Then take the 40mil and build the practice facility with extra public rinks and use the leftovers to start a community hockey program to build the fan base of the future.
The best example I can use is Tampa. The Lighting invests heavily in outreach and building roller, outdoor, and ice rinks. They have a team that travels the area and teaches the game. They run excellent summer programs. Conversely, The Tampa Bay Rays baseball team does none of this and finds itself in the same spot as the Coyotes. They never invested in the community or fanbase to build long-term support via grassroots efforts. You have to be part of the community if you want to have a successful long-term sports franchise.
As a Yotes fan who lives in Phoenix, a smaller capacity arena isn’t the worst thing, we got a lot of empty seats, not to mention the fact that half of the fans every game are wearing the opposing team’s jerseys. It was beautiful when our boys beat the Maple Leafs at home this year, because you got to see a lot of fans in blue jerseys looking like sad pandas! That’s what we live for, to see all of the opposing team’s fans in our house walking out of the building with long faces after one of our rare wins. Will take them all though! Go Yotes!
You don’t even believe that bruh
This was such a good Dangle Rant 😂
Houston is calling, Quebec is on hold and we have a message from EVERY province and a few territories if you’d believe
I'd love for someone to find out where would this franchise would have lost more money? If they had stayed in Winnipeg or if they had moved to Phoenix?
Great question, but if this happened in Canada Bettman would have moved the team at least a decade ago. I could not see them losing this much money in Winnipeg. No matter what the year(s). Just sad...
The fact of the matter is that Phoenix is the 6-7th largest market in the country, so they should be making a butt-load more revenue...
There are no excuses for why they're 💩 broke
@@MarloSoBalJr It's simple, Americans barely care about hockey as much as Canada
Bettman can make 5 times that amout if he put the team in Quebec.
The Quebecor group is in the fortune 500 of the best out their and they built a brand new NHL approved 14000 arena. And have been selling season tickets since 2014 to over 5000 customers.
No brainer right?
Bettman hates Canadian market.
quebec would bee a failure like the last time they had a hockey team
@@justinalley3399 last time it wasn't a failure, let me remind you that the Quebec Nordiques team, became the Avalanche, and they won the cup the year after, season tickets were sold out.
The loss of the team was the peak of 130% in fees to NHL teams that separated the millionaires from the sports.
NHL is the poor pro sports in USA, but in Canada, we have hockey, and soccer.
So get your sht right, and come back with a sentence.
@@Cubaquois it sold out because the team was in Colorado, not Quebec
@@turtlebite7060 sorry, I don't understand your comment.
It does not reflect the 1994 reality, and if you don't know about this dossier, then I suggest you inform yourself before making such comments.
The ligue was fine, but mr butt man had to go lobby for cities willing to take a team pronto, and then and only then, one year later that he implanted his new franchise costs, and didn't consider the dollar, and was bound to remove any if all Canadian legacy in hockey.
I'm all for the return of a team in Quebec, they got a brand new arena 15000. Full every night 100% sure, merchandise from nhl shop will go bonkers every night, season tickets pre sold for 5000 investors since 2015.
No brainer, but it's all about the lobby, and buttman is a giver to his own, and knows since Winnipeg are back how Canadians love hockey, full seats sold every night.
Yep but Bettman is a friend of Desmarais family in Canada and they are nemesis corporate of Quebecor.
This particular announcement feels like window dressing to stall before packing up for Houston in the middle of the night.
Or Kansas City since they wouldn't have to share an arena with a NBA team.
@@redpillfreedom6692 I'd love to see that, actually. I'm a Coyotes fan who lives in Kansas, and I wouldn't mind driving to Kansas City to see a few games. That's what gets me: The NHL treats the 'Yotes like trash, but there are no shortage of fans in Arizona. It's as if popular support doesn't mean anything. This reminds me of the Montreal Expos, back in the day.
@@redpillfreedom6692 Kansas City makes the most sense because of exclusive rights to the arena but Houston would be a go-to for players wanting a tax leniency
Dangle really is the Lewis Black of hockey commentary.
If I’ve learned anything in my life, it’s that this whole situation with the coyotes is absolutely ridiculous and that AZ is not a good hockey market. Sure there are fans, but the franchise is run terribly. And just because there may be fans, doesn’t mean the market is good. Yet, Bettman for some reason insists on beating this dead horse, and not only that, then taking the carcass of said horse and bashing nhl fans and the rest of the league with it. I’m sorry, coyotes faithful. But I honestly can’t see a reason why this should continue and I can’t believe we’re still talking about it in 2022
Bettman only does what the owners want
@@wilbs1959 so why are they throwing money at a dead horse
@@wilbs1959 Pretty sure the owners would have agreed in 2017 to move the Coyotes to Vegas... why didn't they do that!?
The New York Islanders were not allowed to play more than just the first round in the 13k seated Nassau Coliseum in the 2018 playoffs due to it "not meeting NHL standards." Now the NHL is agreeing to let the Cyotes play in a 5k seated arena for 3-4 years. its a joke. if it goes through I hope they make the playoffs so the NHL loses even more money.
According to wikipedia, there are 13 CHL teams with average attendance greater than 5k (18-19). Quebec Ramparts (9230), London Knights, Halifax Mooseheads, Edmonton Oil Kings, Calgary Hitmen, Kitchener Rangers, Spokane Chiefs, Portland Winterhawks, Everett Silvertips, Regina Pats, Moncton Wildcats, Oshawa Generals, and Niagara IceDogs
Canadian Strong 🇨🇦💪
....but Quebec City can't have a team?? The NHL has lost the plot.
Screw that the Charlottetown Islanders (QMJHL) would bring in about as much as the Coyotes next year! The city of Charlottetown PEI which has a population of 36,000 people could support this team at this point! What a joke! Just move the team to Houston as the fans in Arizona deserve so much better than this trash franchise that thinks a university arena is good enough for an NHL team!
The problem is doing business in Canada, much easier, much more profitable, to do business in the US.
@@drexxler138 yet here we are with numerous successful NHL franchises in Canada. Business climate isn't part of the criteria for the NHL to approve franchises. That is the decision of the investors or potential ownership.
The best move would be playing down in Tucson Arizona. Where there are multiple arenas much bigger. The TCC where the Roadrunners play seat almost double the amount asu would. And Mckale Memorial Center hosts over triple the amount. Just saying there are momentary places in Arizona just as big. They just are in places further from Phoenix and Glendale
Except all the people that wanna watch the coyotes are in Phoenix
@@turtlebite7060 AHL in Tucson gets about 3K each game at $20 to 30 per seat
@@turtlebite7060 So where are they?... What's the next excuse?... Them playing in Glendale and not in Scottsdale is why the team is unsuccessful. SMFH🤦
The NHL wouldn’t allow the Islanders to play a full season in a refurbished 13,900 seat Nassau Coliseum until the second pandemic shortened season in 2020-21. It wasn’t fair to the team and the fans. Barclays Center (not built for hockey) only had a 15,800 seat capacity for hockey. The coliseum was rocking in the 2021 playoffs because Long Island is where the fan base lives. Not NYC. The NHL wants a team in a market that doesn’t give a damn about them in the slightest. It’s a joke.
Weaker than an expansion franchise, NHL should contract the team and hold a dispersal draft.
Then expand somewhere and collect a billion dollar sale.
That embarrasses the league. The easier answer is simply a bigger relocation fee than Winnipeg had to pay.
Or move the team to Houston
The important issue is keeping a team out of Quebec city. You know, that city with an arena and fans at the ready.
That would require Detroit or Columbus to move back to the Western Conference and they have both refused.
@@redpillfreedom6692 Who cares?... This is the NHL. Make four conferences
I can't believe it's 2022 and we're still talking about the Coyotes' arena problems
They’ve been bleeding money since their days in Winnipeg for a long time. They don’t have stability for much of their existence, and that’s depressing to say the least.
Good classic Dangle rant to start my weekend
So I looked up the C(anadian)HL arenas, and here are all the rinks smaller than 5000 seats
WHL
Swift Current Broncos - 2879
Moose Jaw Warriors - 4414
Prince Albert Raiders - 2580
Winnipeg Ice - 1400
OHL
Peterborough Petes - 3729
Barrie Colts - 4195
North Bay Battalion - 4262
Sudbury Wolves - 4640
Guelph Storm - 4715
Owen Sound Attack - 3500
Flint Firebirds - 4365
QMJHL
Blainville-Boisbriand Armada - 3100
Drummondville Voltigeurs - 3038
Gatineau Olympiques - 4000
Rouyn-Noranda Huskies - 2150
Sherbrook Phoenix - 3646
Val-d'Or Foreurs - 2140
Baie-Comeau Drakkar - 2779
Chicoutimi Saguenéens - 3683
Rimouski Océanic - 4285
Shwanigan Cataractes - (conflicting figures: listed as 4125 seats, but capacity 5195 for hockey)
Victoriaville Tigres - 3420
Arcadie-Bathurst Titans - 3162
Cape Breton Eagles - "5000ish"
Charlottetown Islanders - 3717
Quebec: we have a 18 000 seats stadium...
Bettman:arizona will play in front of 5000....
not even that much, if they have to remove seats to make it "NHL" ready then will be much less. like the 3200 number... for fucks sakes they could move the team to Indianapolis and play in Indiana Farmers Coliseum and have damn near double that amount (6200) lol, and even better move it to Conseco Fieldhouse and be able to have 12,300. god arizona is a bloody joke.
They won't even get 5000
Just move the team to Houston, Quebec City, or legit anywhere else.
Houston!!!
Gary Bettman just needs to pull the scene from The Simpsons and scream "That's it! Back to Winnipeg!"
The really painful part about this is, there _are_ hockey fans in Arizona. They deserve better than this. Lest we forget, about 15 years ago, one of those fans was a little boy named Auston Matthews...
The Monument in Rapid City, South Dakota seats more people than this arena. That building is the home rink for the Coyotes ECHL team. Move the team to Quebec already
Quebec isnt a option american teams only are options as it should be
I live in St.John’s Newfoundland which is the home of the ECHL team the Newfoundland Growlers. The stadium we have has a capacity of 7,000.
You know the Coyotes situation is really bad when Steve Dangle drops the F bomb 3 times!
What happens to there draft picks they’ve acquired from other teams if they do get deleted
The other 31 teams can opt to buy out those contracts or a "special" draft would take place.
Coyotes oughta to fold if Bettman decides to bury this franchise into oblivion
Houston we have a problem
Move them temporarily to our new AHL arena being built for the Coachella Valley Firebirds. Should be finished by the start of the season. Only a 4 hour drive from Phoenix. 10k seats.
I've been a proponent of building the game everywhere stateside but can we finally agree that the experiment has failed in Arizona
"Multi-purpose arena" sounds so bush league, like it's the spare gym at the local highschool where they store the old mats and bleachers they don't use anymore.
Except that it is a brand new, state-of-the art facility. What makes it multipurpose is that it will also be home to the gymnastics and wrestling teams. That is typical fo4 NCAA arenas.
Honestly though, which would get larger crowds: Coyotes playing in Arizona or Coyotes playing in a random small Canadian town with like 10 000 population and a home arena of an old outdoor high school hockey rink that has been worn down since the 80s?
I joked about this earlier, but Charlottetown could support this team! They average about 3000 fans a game for the Islanders, I'm sure they could support an NHL team if all it takes is 3500 a game... and that city has a population of 36,000 people. What a joke!
I have an idea that would make sense. Since the Coyotes have struggled with attendance for so many years, I think it would be interesting to move the team temporarily to Houston or Quebec City to see if the fans would support the team. I don't think there is any question the fans in Quebec would support the team, but uncertain about Houston. This scenario would be similar to how the Montreal Expos played some "home games" in San Juan, Puerto Rico in their last season as the Expos. I don't really think that this will happen, but it would be interesting to see if the fan support would be better in a different city.
AZ State Fair Grounds creates too many logistics to work around and the ASU arena is no different than the Chargers play in a MLS stadium
AZ Vets Memorial Col is a DUMP. There is NO reason at all to throw money at that building. Investing in the ASU building not only improves the ASU hockey program's situation, but finally gets the Coyotes a (temporary) home on the east side of the valley where they should've been in the first place. I really wonder how history would've gone if the Los Arcos site had happened back in 97.
@@pliskenmovie Ellman cursed this franchise, Scottsdale was ready to pull the trigger. But he was asking too much.
I've talked about this for years; Bettman will stop at nothing to cement his legacy of making hockey in non-traditional markets work and while it has worked wonderfully in some, he clearly will do whatever to keep it afloat in Arizona. This franchise's a joke and making the whole league look as professional as the ABA in Semi-Pro; let natural selection run its course and kill it already!!
Coyotes are the biggest joke in professional sports. They've had 1 playoff run in over 25 years. What an absolute joke.
The fact that the NHL won't just cut ties and admit defeat is so pathetic. Move it to a market that actually wants it.
"Angel Soft Arena" is perfect...
This franchise will go down in Business Management text books as the model of an exercise in futility. They have surpassed even The Florida Panthers (currently in a Renaissance of their own! But pretty sure when they start losing again, we'll be watching a 3/4 empty arena again; is it even 3/4 full now? PS: When, WHEN, are they going to put their TV camera position in a spot where we can actually watch the game from, instead of Row 20? Holy crap) in hopeless fan support and management.
It was more Lightning fans than Panthers fans at Sunrise in the second round 🤣
How's that telling ya!
I line it when Steve loses it 😂
Only positive I can think of would be if they could be a presence on campus, and build a hardcore fanbase among the students.
It may be Arizona State, but I don't the students are that drunk to see a Coyotes game.
Houston or Kansas City would fix this whole situation
They'll be in Houston in October.
4:29 Steve sounding more and more like Dennis Reynolds 😂
When I saw the article and the picture of the University Arena, I thought it was a fake joke article.
Gary 'Batman' is actually embarrassing the NHL at this point. I cannot believe that a professional sports team is being allowed to get away with ALL this. It's ok to admit defeat and just relocate the team.
That’s true the nhl doesn’t have ownership of the team it’s the investments and 2 billionaires that have committed to desert to keeping the team in Arizona has 4 higher broadcasting revenues here in states Phoenix is big city
Gary Bettman is never gonna move the coyotes so just put that through your head
This is like the classic movie "Slapshot", where the owner was more interested in the team losing for tax write off purposes. It's incredible that the NHL actually seems okay with this lunacy. Their owner makes the late Harold Ballard look like a genius by comparison. This is like a bad TV show you need to turn off, but can't find the remote.
capacity “around 3200, if they take out the stands to build locker rooms” is perhaps the most ridiculous statement I’ve heard in 2022 so far.
I’m truly sympathetic to Yotes fans, but good lord, you’ve got to be realistic. Every single thing capable of doing so *has in fact* gone tits-up with this organization.
Sell the dang team and either move it, or get dead-serious about walking-the-walk with plans for their future survival, because that’s what it would be if they stay in AZ.
When the Minnesota Vikings played at UM for 2 seasons, at least they were already constructing the new building, and the capacity wasn’t laughably below standard.
The Yotes don’t even have an agreement with any city for any building yet, much less have they begun to break ground or actually build a place to play hockey.
Are they really going to attempt a 3200 capacity arena for 2 full seasons? I acknowledge that the fans who are there are passionate and this is no dig on them, but AZ is already lacking awareness of their existence;
Playing in an arena with 1/4 of the capacity of the flipping Wimbledon tennis final is just too sad and too much embarrassment for the league to endure.
I’m still in complete disbelief that this is a real conversation that’s actually happening.
At this point they'd be better off playing at Chase Field.
i live in wisconsin and there are hockey fans everywhere in the state, hockey is played by many and we still don't have a team. i know its small market but the bucks and packers seem to be doing just fine here and the state backs team like no other. when i found out about the krakken i shook my head, give us the dam team we will support it.
I cant wait for Gary Bettman’s Masterclass on sunk cost fallacy.
Simple idea for the Arizona Coyotes, play in the same arena that the Phoenix Suns play in.
They apparently talked about that. The Suns want nothing to do with them.
They did that and guess, what?... It didn't meet the "standards" for professional hockey 😵
@@MarloSoBalJr The issue is that the Footprint Center wasn't built with a hockey rink in mind, thus the sightlines were terrible for hockey. One of the goals was obstructed at one end of the arena because the upper deck hung over the goal.
They should’ve been sent back to Winnipeg a decade ago and Atlanta should’ve gone to Seattle. One corner of the country to another.
There have been teams in various leagues in the past(admittedly the distant past) that would be barnstormers, they’d lack a home park/arena and would always be the road team. Maybe the Coyotes can do this?
Lol No.
@@shaynekempton3368 I never said it was a good idea, but it would still be better than putting them in an arena that’s 1/4 the capacity of the rest of the league
I know the NHL does not want to relocate because they lose a lot of money from relocating rather than expanding. So before the situation gets worse like Atlanta where they were forced to move the team right away, Why not have the NHL buy back the team and then Auction the team off to the highest bidder with a few stipulations. Have Quebec, Houston, Kansas City all fight over the team and see what one of them is willing to offer.
Gary Bettman is willing to severely damage the league to keep one franchise in one metropolitan area. Imagine if he lobbied this damn hard for the other teams in trouble(original Jets/Nordiques/Thrashers) over the years? Imagine signing a player and that player might not even get paid…
They building a new arena just in time for Matthews homecoming. I hear from very reliable sources that he hates playing there, that's why he only signed for 5 years. Dubas offered him 8 years 15 million per year and he turned it down.
@Geo me cards he said it's better than playing in that 💩 whole city.
@Geo me cards Too much dead bodies in America.
Being a Coyotes fan this hurts so damn much
Agreed
im still confused why the coyotes cant play at the veterans memorial arena in downtown phoenix for the interim... seats 13,000 people... I'm born and raised in Phoenix and nobody seems to care about this team, I wish they would just move somewhere with a real fan base for the sake of the players. The cardinals play in Glendale too, but always have a packed arena, so saying Glendale is the problem isn't really true- people just don't care.
Within two minutes of speaking Steve brings up the laffs
There has to be a town in Canada who wants this franchise
My dad told me a story of going to a North Stars game near the time of the move....they gave away tickets too.....
Arizona, the only place where you can get numerous arenas built for a team nobody wants. This joke of a franchise has been given a ton chances to turn it around and failed horribly. The unstable ownership and mismanagement on every level has made this team an embarrassment to the entire NHL. I do feel bad for the fans that have stayed loyal to such a poorly run team.
I live in Arizona, I don't really have a choice!
First time I'm actually watching a clip from the podcast and Steve's swearing is so funny he has the censor himself on his other channels and for sportsnet but god damn it when he swears he is five times funnier.
Why don't they use the coyotes as a test bed for a city or 2? Have them play in a place that may be in the running for a possible relocation to see the reception. A place like Portland (whose arena was actually built for a hockey rink) could be a good place to play to see if the people would support a pro hockey team.
817 likes boys..aka, enough for the lower bowl of Coyote arena
The schitts creek comp is so true 😭🤣
Gila: 'he-luh"
Tempe: "Tem-pee"
I don't understand why the NHL is so dead set on making Arizona work. Houston is right there and an even bigger market. Didn't the Aeros outdraw the Coyotes?
Not to mention Houston has an owner in waiting, an actual NHL sized arena ready to go, and with Arizona moving to the central this year there would be no realigning of the conference. Add to it, think of the Dallas/Houston natural rivalry. That would be a great series to see.
@Geo me cards Houston Coyotes. The Aeros are too similar to the Jets. Being back the brick red Coyotes jerseys.
@@ClarenceJBoddicker1987 also, coyotes are pretty prevalent in Texas, so it makes sense.
Why do the Coyotes exist again?
Hello Houston.
So Winnipeg loses their team for this joke of a franchise for 15 years and this franchise can’t even find a home to play in ,and they get to stay in the league, like what an effing joke, there’s a reason why a Canadian team hasn’t won a Stanley cup since Bettman has been Commissioner of the league. This favouritism for American teams has got to stop
Something ironic about Toronto fans laughing about the capacity being so low at the moment.
If Toronto didn't have to bankroll teams like Arizona's with our attendance cash then we could probably be having fans in the stands right at this moment.
Make the players get dressed at home like we all did when we were 7
The only reason they're in this situation is that their current ownership is incompetent. The tea leaves were out there in 2020 that the City of Glendale may end the lease because they have an out by 2022. The NHL, in an effort to keep the team in the Phoenix market, kept selling this team to rich idiots over and over. The team has changed hands 7 times since moving from Winnipeg. This is a joke, I don't want the Coyotes to relocate but the NHL has not done a good job by this "keep them their at all cost" mentality.
And I feel for fans who were told their market is too small or not right for the NHL (like Hamilton, Saskatoon, Quebec City), who have to see this situation go down. It's embarrassing for the league.
Season ticket holder with my family to the yotes and they tripled the price....we got asu men's hockey and football season tickets instead.
They have. How many times have the Coyotes finished LAST in the league for these past 30 years?
Why can't Bettman pull a few strings to make sure the Coyotes have 1st round draft picks for a few years to help them get some top prospects.
Lmao awesome Steve Just Awesome 👌
It's getting time for Steve to start considering his health. The daily screaming is going to likely cause him a stroke one day soon.. lol!
arizona is a bastion of corruption it’s hard to feel bad, like team like state…
how was hockey supposed to flourish in the desert again? i’d give atlanta a 3d shot at this point if i was Gary
total joke; a 2nd team in Winnipeg would draw better lol the rink in Tucson holds more approx 7000 and it draws about 3k per game; but tickets are 20 to 30 bucks only
at least they can fill their arena finally.