Did Killing Dumbledore Split Snape's Soul?

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    How was Severus Snape able to use the killing curse on Dumbledore if he didn't truly want him to die? Did the act split his soul?
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  • @fionayitongxie7595
    @fionayitongxie7595 4 роки тому +1179

    In the book Dumbledore said that he didn’t want Dracos soul ruined. And snape asked, “and my soul?” Dumbledore said that Snape knows whether helping an old man fulfill his wishes will not damaged he soul.

    • @susanfalconedaquino3623
      @susanfalconedaquino3623 4 роки тому +58

      Exactly.

    • @marcelsgroot
      @marcelsgroot 4 роки тому +17

      I was about to say the same. I fully agree with you.

    • @Tony2dH
      @Tony2dH 4 роки тому +50

      Interesting parallel to the euthanasia debate

    • @theflashgordon193
      @theflashgordon193 4 роки тому +26

      only good thing for me atleast dumbledore has been killed by a friend

    • @denen404
      @denen404 3 роки тому +41

      thats the main difference in my eyes... snape was just doing as dumbledore wished he knew he was damning himself which is why in my opinion he didn't damn himself...he never TRULY wanted to kill dumbledore(or atleast murder him) he killed dumbledore out of kindness which allowed the curse to work without the splitting imo.

  • @lw5682
    @lw5682 4 роки тому +850

    The subtly in Alan Rickmans facial expressions and tone of voice as he portrayed Severus Snape are amazing. I never tire of watching Snape scenes. I wish the movies did a better job of including more of scenes with Snape that were in the book!

    • @jimslancio
      @jimslancio 4 роки тому +12

      Alan Rickman sometimes speaks by exaggerating consonants. Decades ago, Rosalind Russell did that, also.

    • @JeanValjean875
      @JeanValjean875 4 роки тому +26

      Rickman was amazing, although I think some of the writing for Snape in the movies was not the best. They made it a little too obvious he was a good guy.

    • @marcelsgroot
      @marcelsgroot 4 роки тому +16

      Oh yes I remember the scene where he walked into the class room the first time. I was like great casting this guy is Snape dead on. He was really Snape how I imagined Snape from the books

    • @MintyCoffee
      @MintyCoffee 4 роки тому +6

      @@JeanValjean875 Not really. It's only "obvious" In hindsight.

    • @JeanValjean875
      @JeanValjean875 4 роки тому +4

      @@MintyCoffee Well, everything is subjective I guess. I was referring to the films only. And in my view it's obvious because Snape never really does anything too villainous in the films. He's not even really THAT mean to Harry. This isn't true in the books, however.

  • @jameswest981
    @jameswest981 4 роки тому +569

    Beautiful work,his soul should be intact, Dumbledore wanted it to happen. The movie made it look like he leaped out the window backwards

    • @cloxked9991
      @cloxked9991 4 роки тому +24

      He fell

    • @nunyadamnbidness2531
      @nunyadamnbidness2531 4 роки тому +6

      oh so maybe the spell didn't work and he knew it wouldn't?

    • @kimsmith1746
      @kimsmith1746 4 роки тому +27

      You are absolutely correct. It isn't murder, it is euthanasia. The spell worked, as Snape wanted Dumbledore free of pain, as well as saving his own life.

    • @utoresa5193
      @utoresa5193 4 роки тому +4

      He was on the edge so if the curse wasn't lethal it would atleast push him over killing him anyways.

    • @sd81a46
      @sd81a46 3 роки тому

      Dumbledore died by holding onto the fancy watch which was a mistake because when it came off he fell off the tower.

  • @Grivian
    @Grivian 4 роки тому +869

    Snape killed Dumbledore, he didn't murder him. That is the difference

    • @captain_dsz6049
      @captain_dsz6049 4 роки тому +95

      also he felt remorse which mends the soul as well

    • @pavanichugh3573
      @pavanichugh3573 4 роки тому +31

      so may I know that what is the difference between killing and murder????

    • @valeallybear1918
      @valeallybear1918 4 роки тому +6

      pavani chugh Yeah I have the same Question

    • @Grivian
      @Grivian 4 роки тому +132

      @@pavanichugh3573 Killing just means ending someones life. Murder adds intent, and a murdered victim does not die willingly. All murders are kills, but not all kills are murders. For example, when someone takes their own life you can say that they killed themself, but not that they murdered themself

    • @charlottehardy822
      @charlottehardy822 4 роки тому +47

      Effectively Snape euthanised Dumbledore.

  • @TomPlaysPoGo
    @TomPlaysPoGo 4 роки тому +107

    Duumbledore’s last words were “Severus, Please”. I feel that those words also aided in Snape not splitting his soul and having Dumbledore accept his end.

    • @rhondacrosswhite8048
      @rhondacrosswhite8048 3 роки тому +6

      Stapes soul was still intact after helping Dumbledore achieve what amounted to assisted suicide. Avada Kedavra kills instantly so far as we know and it leaves no injury to the body externally or internally. That may have made it even kinder than a potion that was lethal. “Severus, please...” was Dumbledore’s reminder to honour his promise.

    • @Knowledge.to_Come
      @Knowledge.to_Come 8 місяців тому +1

      He ended dumbledores suffering from
      The cursed ring so it was actually a favor. And why it had a blue hue instead of green

  • @InfiniteNerd360
    @InfiniteNerd360 4 роки тому +559

    When Harry uses one of the unforgivable curse on bellatrix, it only works for a second but pushes her over because he didn’t want it. What about if snapes killing curse didn’t directly kill dumbledore because he didn’t mean it but the push back and of the ledge meant dumbledore died when he hit the ground. This would explain why dumbledore still looked alive when he was falling

    • @elliebellieboo
      @elliebellieboo 4 роки тому +57

      True, but Dumbledore was a wizard (obviously) and I don’t think he would’ve died from falling that hight, even though it’s that high up.

    • @IgnatiaWildsmith1227
      @IgnatiaWildsmith1227 4 роки тому +27

      I think that wizards are more durable than normal humans so I he probably would have survived the fall

    • @alexc5369
      @alexc5369 4 роки тому +55

      What he 'looked like' when he was falling means nothing, we go by the book and Snape really did mean to kill him.

    • @InfiniteNerd360
      @InfiniteNerd360 4 роки тому +47

      When Harry was falling because he fell of his broom after passing out, dumbledore had to stop his fall. Going by terminal velocity it is possible that dumbledore and Harry were going the same speed therefore if dumbledore would survive so would have Harry. Also if you look at Neville, he only fell a small distant and broke his wrist.

    • @SimonaShine
      @SimonaShine 4 роки тому +3

      @@superpeanutcrusade9208 True! So the curse did what it was supposed to do

  • @3893maya
    @3893maya 4 роки тому +268

    "I shall never reveal the best of you, Severus" ... that is all I takes to understand that point. Snape was absolutely selfless from the time he "left" the death eaters to work with Dumbledore and the Order until his death, not caring what people thought of him, as long as his actions were honorable. That is not an easy feat. To be HATED for something you did for the greater good, and tell no one... is a lonely and sad road, and Snape did this with absolute poise and grace "always."

    • @wpc456cpw
      @wpc456cpw 4 роки тому +9

      thanks i’m crying. 😭

    • @Noor_World11
      @Noor_World11 4 роки тому +10

      that is why he was "the bravest man I´ve ever knew"

    • @shadowseer07
      @shadowseer07 3 роки тому +1

      Wow ok...this broke me.

    • @aniketroychoudhury9266
      @aniketroychoudhury9266 3 роки тому +7

      He's like itachi uchiha

    • @kyleethekelt
      @kyleethekelt 2 роки тому +1

      Perhaps movie Snape did it with poise and grace; book Snape did not in my view. But he still did it, even though it cost him so much.

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 4 роки тому +372

    9:08 Dumbledore even said that he'd prefer death from a quick Avada Kedavra from Snape to being tortured to death by Bellatrix or being mauled to death or eaten by Greyback.

  • @geniusiq.
    @geniusiq. 4 роки тому +196

    What happens to the dementors after wizarding war 2
    Also was narcissa black and andromeda black reunited after wizarding war 2
    Also I think it worked because dumbledore wanted it to work snape also knew he was doing it for the person he loved, lilly Evans

    • @SinisterWaffle13
      @SinisterWaffle13 4 роки тому +3

      @Dooa Mahmood the dementors are sealed away in the ministry of magic

    • @saharajvs
      @saharajvs 4 роки тому +6

      I read somewhere that they never reunited since Narcissa wasn’t about muggles marring wizards or witches. Even after her son marring a “mudblood”, she supported the situation ‘cause of Draco and the idea of family unity, but that’s it.

    • @nightmacaroon4762
      @nightmacaroon4762 4 роки тому +3

      Sahara.V Draco married a pure blood witch named Astoria, actually

    • @marycaridad
      @marycaridad 4 роки тому +3

      Sahara.V Astoria was a pure-blood witch.

    • @cocowang8568
      @cocowang8568 4 роки тому +3

      I think in the last book they mentioned something about the dementors being locked away in the department of mysteries, but our guess is as good as any

  • @Rebslager
    @Rebslager 4 роки тому +99

    Snape was a master in occlumency. If he sealed his mind so it didn't contradicts his will to kill it might have a major influence why it worked...so when you put all together it made it possible for Snape to kill Dumbledore without getting split
    1) Occlumency
    2) The killing of Dumbledore was already agreed on...there for not murder as we know it
    3) Dumbledore begs for him to kill him.. not for his life
    4) Dumbledore was already dying and likely almost dead anyway
    5) He saves Draco by doing so.
    6) He knew if he ever should get his revenge towards Voldemort he had to kill Dumbledore at that moment
    7) He did it to protect others. Meaning "love" again has the influence
    8) The vow has a small part to because he needed to kill Dumbledore to stay safe himself... and he knew he had to stay alive as long as possible.

  • @jaspr1999
    @jaspr1999 4 роки тому +192

    I believe there is another reason Snapes' soul was safe. The curse on Dumbledores' hand was misery. Ending the misery that Dumbledore was going through was also a heartfelt act... To end his suffering. People in this kind of daily/hourly constant, unrelenting suffering tend to not talk much about it because no one wants to constantly hear it. Because of this, Dumbledore is just not the complaining type but Snape would understand this and know that by ending Dumbledores' life he would free him from it. It was also an act of compassion.

    • @alexc5369
      @alexc5369 4 роки тому +6

      Not really how it works though, his soul didn't split because it wasn't murder. Using your logic if I murder person A that was abusing person B, I am showing person B compassion, but I have still commit murder and thus, my soul would split.

    • @Wombat0987
      @Wombat0987 4 роки тому +4

      Voldemort basically did they same lol tortured people until they begged to die and then put them out of their misery.

    • @my2cents49
      @my2cents49 4 роки тому +4

      @@alexc5369 but this is why it isn't murder. If it isn't murder but this answer doesn't explain why, then what is the reason Snape's soul was saved?
      In real life, clearly things are different - mercy killings of humans is still murder becausewe are supposed to do everything possible to help them. The fact he was already dying doesm't matter - you are to try to extend their life as much as possible. Using this normal logic, one could also argue that it's still murder even if Snape knew someone else would do it if he didn't. The fact is that he took it upon himself to make Dumbledore die by his hand when Dumbledore wasn't threatening him. If you tell me to kill you, it's still murder in real life.
      But in the Harry Potter universe, killing in this situation (a mercy killing) has a different effect on the soul as the consequences of murder don't apply.

    • @arioarashdadkhahaseman1889
      @arioarashdadkhahaseman1889 Рік тому +1

      Also Dumbledore lived another year to teach Harry thanks to Snape so Snape literally give another one year life to Dumbledore and saved him for a year.

  • @oldscoolgaming6700
    @oldscoolgaming6700 4 роки тому +207

    I don’t think that Snape’s soul was split when he killed Dumbledore. It wasn’t really murder because it was all part of their plan.

    • @joseeduardovasquez2683
      @joseeduardovasquez2683 4 роки тому +4

      I think the same. Unless Snape thought of it all by himself, his soul finished intact.

    • @wpc456cpw
      @wpc456cpw 4 роки тому +6

      agreed, if anything, it was assisted suicide / euthanasia type situation.

    • @MMD_16-95
      @MMD_16-95 4 роки тому +1

      José Eduardo Vásquez
      Voldmourt soul split and got into Harry without he know !!.

    • @macamccuen6798
      @macamccuen6798 4 роки тому

      It’s just their plan towards the greater good 😉

    • @tricia2486
      @tricia2486 4 роки тому +2

      Snape killed Dumbledore, he didn't murder him

  • @lukewarren9069
    @lukewarren9069 4 роки тому +73

    A reason I would use to support this arguement is to simply listen to Alan Rickman's delivery of the incantation when Severus kills Albus in the HBP movie. If you listen closely, you can hear a slight falter in Severus's tone as he pronounces the spell. Severus knew he had to go through with it but clearly had no ill will towards Albus in that moment.

    • @GhostRider-on6bz
      @GhostRider-on6bz 4 роки тому +3

      Alan Rickman's delivery is just another thing these dreadful films got wrong. Not saying it is his fault but his version of Snape is basically far too sympathetic and far easier to read than in the books, which is because these films have to be understood by any moron who will buy a ticket. The way Snape behaves in this scene is very different in the book, where he looks at Dumbledore with his usual sneering expression and cold gaze before shouting "Avada Kadabra". It does not say he has tears in his fatherly eyes or a wobbly lip/trembling voice. But then, these films turned the best book in the series, Order of the Phoenix, in to a two hour, flat mess with a bit of flashing light at the end.

    • @alexc5369
      @alexc5369 4 роки тому +5

      Incorrect, how he pronounced it means nothing at all. We go by the books. Snape really did mean/ intended to kill Dumbledore. His soul did not split, because it was not murder.

    • @bigg2988
      @bigg2988 2 роки тому +5

      @@GhostRider-on6bz Well, allow me to assure you from my experience of watching the "Half-Blood Prince" with people not previously acquainted with the books (several times), and NONE of them interpreted he was a good guy, especially not at that moment of killing Dumbledore! Everyone would be just shocked and angry. "Far easier to read?" I believe you just allow your retrospective of having read the books to influence how you see that moment. And YES, on repeated views some details in Allan Rickman's acting are there to hint not all is as it seems. But they are small really, a split-second grimace, a note in the voice. "Dreadful", at least, should not be used regarding this part of the film. C'mon.

  • @utoresa5193
    @utoresa5193 4 роки тому +189

    What are your favourite spells everyone?
    Mine are
    1)NYYYYYEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
    2)AAAVAAAAEDA KEEEDAURAAAAAA!!(DH 2 in the forest)
    3)Exxxxxxxxx.....PErliAmoUS!(Used by Snape)
    4)EXXXXXPECTOUU.. PATRONUm!!!
    5)EEEYYAAAHH!!!!(the one that destroyed Hogwarts shield)
    6)TAH! (OTP)

    • @captain_dsz6049
      @captain_dsz6049 4 роки тому +18

      NYEEEEEEEEAH
      austrian death machine would be proud

    • @fetamean
      @fetamean 4 роки тому +16

      mine's definitely VADAAAAAAAA from Lucius Malfoy in movie 2 after Harry freed Dobby.

    • @rajramnani2945
      @rajramnani2945 4 роки тому +19

      Everybody: AUUUUUUUUADA KEDAVRA
      Me: lumos.

    • @robevans9665
      @robevans9665 4 роки тому +10

      @@fetamean he said avada. And it always bugged me that's what the movie had him say because EVERYONE knows that lucius malfoy wouldn't have had the stones to kill harry. Especially at Hogwarts with Dumbledore right up the hall.

    • @dize4634
      @dize4634 4 роки тому +6

      Nyeeeh was lit af I wish voldy used that "spell" more often

  • @KLawrence-mn7gh
    @KLawrence-mn7gh 4 роки тому +49

    The real question is: if Snape had his doubts about killing Dumbledore due to the integrity of his soul, does it mean that he hadn't kill anybody previously? Cus, why to complain if you're split up already?

    • @Katarnis
      @Katarnis 4 роки тому +15

      It is possible for someone to mend their soul after murdering someone. From what I recall hearing it is said to be painful.

    • @KLawrence-mn7gh
      @KLawrence-mn7gh 4 роки тому +7

      @@Katarnis Which brings us to another question: did Snape know that his soul can be repared after a murder in case of serious contrition?

    • @anthonydaniels2678
      @anthonydaniels2678 4 роки тому +6

      Hermione said that you can fix your soul after creating a horcrux but it would be painful if not cause death I think repairing your soul after just shattering it by killing someone would be much easier to repair then the situation with a horcrux

    • @alexc5369
      @alexc5369 4 роки тому +15

      @@anthonydaniels2678 dumblore mentions to Harry in HBP that the way to mend it is by showing true remorse. - that is the painful part, try are not talking about physical pain but more emotional.

    • @moonstonepearl21
      @moonstonepearl21 4 роки тому +9

      I get the feeling that he actually didn't kill anyone directly, which was probably rare among the death eaters. If he did, it is a strong possibility he felt real remorse, so his soul healed. However, even if he did kill, it still makes sense for him to be offended, because it would be like Dumbledoor saying that he's so damaged already, that it doesn't matter, which isn't true and is really hurtful to someone with a checkered past. The more you kill, the more your soul breaks. Plus if his already healed, he wouldn't want to break it again. I'm not even sure if Snape knew about murder's physical affects on the soul until Dumbledoor told him anyway. Regardless if someone knows about it or not, the affects will still be the same.

  • @KMartian7512
    @KMartian7512 Рік тому +7

    In a way, the fact that the killing curse works, makes that scene poetic. I always looked at it as the loophole is, Dumbledore was condemned to death through the curse of the ring. Snape also wanted to kill Dumbledore because the curse from the ring was likely highly more painful & drawn out. It's like Ol' Yeller, & getting rabies. Snape had to convince himself that putting Dumbledore out of his misery was better than a long drawn-out death. In-turn, Snape wanted Dumbledore to die, in the least painful way. Albus even said "Severus, please" (put me down, I've accepted it) to help encourage Snape that it was OK & for the Greater Good. The curse from the ring was long & painful. The Killing curse was "quicker than falling asleep"

  • @joshuaprice757
    @joshuaprice757 4 роки тому +14

    It could also be the fact that Snape killed Dumbledore out of love to stop him from suffering from the curse. Also as Snape had extended Dumbledores life it was not against nature for him to end it

  • @digitaladventurer2142
    @digitaladventurer2142 4 роки тому +28

    I doubt it since Snape would likely have felt remorse considering how hesitant he was to do it. If you think about it lots of the good guys killed people during the war. Molly Weasley is a perfect example of this. True she was fighting to protect her daughter but still killed intentionally. I feel she would have felt remorse later on in life even if she didn't at the time she killed her.

    • @wpc456cpw
      @wpc456cpw 4 роки тому +9

      Molly killed Bellatrix out of love for her daughter, too. Not pure spite and murderous intent. She did it for love. So I agree with you

  • @subaru9639
    @subaru9639 4 роки тому +74

    This is the question that I have thought of ever since First read the books- well done! Perfectly answered

  • @Joreel
    @Joreel 4 роки тому +5

    I think you nailed down quite effectively. One thing that I was thinking when I saw the title of the video was that Snape wasn't killing Dumbledore out of anger or rage, but out of love for him and the students at Hogwarts. I believe Snape loved Dumbledore as a mentor and as a friend. Like you pointed out, they planned Dumbledore's death because he was dying anyways and Snape had tried everything he could go save him, but in the end even Snape's vast knowledge of potions and probably some grey area magics weren't going to be enough. I think the trust and the respect they had for each other also helped to save Snape's soul.

  • @klaudiagrob
    @klaudiagrob 4 роки тому +11

    Snape didn't want to do it. But he knew that he has to.

  • @lucascassin2352
    @lucascassin2352 4 роки тому +41

    Any chance dumbledore just fell of the tower to help it along

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 4 роки тому +11

      I'm just imagining Dumbledore going "Goodbye Severus" then throwing himself off the tower to his death.

    • @alexc5369
      @alexc5369 4 роки тому +7

      If it wasn't for that killing curse, Dumbledore would have fallen to his death

  • @rebeccagodfroy5298
    @rebeccagodfroy5298 4 роки тому +6

    Suicide by Snape..... He knew he was dying a slow painful death. Telling Severus to end his misery, and Severus did. Tragic but plans within plans came to fruition.

  • @johnslade9751
    @johnslade9751 4 роки тому +15

    Before I watch the video I'm going to say no it didn't split his soul. For two reasons 1 Snape was loyal to Dumbledore and Dumbledore told him that the curse that was on him was going to kill him slowly and painfully and and to kill him before the curse did would have been a service to Dumbledore and would be a mercy kill. 2 Snape killing Dumbledore was in the service of a greater good. It cemented his place with Voldemort which ultimately lead to the defeat of Voldemort, Voldemort got his confirmation on Snape and now from within, the victory was assured. In short, no because it served a pure purpose from intention and love point if view

  • @MrsMilato
    @MrsMilato 4 роки тому +13

    I still can't get over this death. It broke my heart and remember where I was when I read about it!!

    • @wpc456cpw
      @wpc456cpw 4 роки тому +2

      the page in my book, where he dies, has tear stains on it 😭😭

  • @Sjivje
    @Sjivje 4 роки тому +54

    *I actually have a different theory. Like you've said, 'Avada Kedavra' (the killing curse) kills someone instantly. I have been confused about Dumbledore's death for a while now because... That's not what happened. He wás hit with the killing curse but when he fell... He wasn't dead. There was consciousness still while falling. That's not how the curse works unless.... You don't mean it and thus the effect not being quite the same just like when Harry hit Bellatrix with the Cruciatus curse. A milder variant was casted. A múch milder variant which turned out to not be effective in the end. I feel that thát is what happened to Dumbledore which would make a lot of sense because of the consciousness thing but also because of Snape's soul remaining intact. How did Dumbledore meet his end then? Logically due to physics. That fall WAS ONE BIG ASS FALL. Nobody would survive anything like that. No wizard no muggle. I feel like this combined with the intention part as well which you have discussed, would cover it all.*

    • @sobiaasif589
      @sobiaasif589 4 роки тому +6

      That was just in the movie.

    • @Sjivje
      @Sjivje 4 роки тому +1

      @@sobiaasif589 Yeah but it is well-known that the books and the films are 2 different versions of the story.

    • @qaznunofraz2376
      @qaznunofraz2376 3 роки тому +1

      Tbh that could be true...

    • @hailey1737
      @hailey1737 3 роки тому +1

      yes the positioning was genius because even if snape didnt mean it it gave dumbledore just the right push anyway so he would fall to his death anyway.

    • @jeffreyfrye1811
      @jeffreyfrye1811 3 роки тому +5

      In the movies it doesnt seem to kill instantly. The spider wavers and flails a bit.Diggory isnt dead until he hits the ground. Sirius falls slowly through the portal with his eyes blinking--i know bellatrix doesnt say the killing curse but it is a green strike that kills Sirius--it was the killing curse. Heck even the strike that kills Lily Potter she is like wincing before falling dead. I think it is dramatic license the movies take but that makes each use unique.

  • @tamarasmith9060
    @tamarasmith9060 4 роки тому +7

    Yes, I felt that because of those reasons Snape was able to do the spell successfully but his soul be intact too. I always assumed his soul was intact & moved on to heaven, hopefully to find the happiness he didn't have in life. Also even if he thought there was a chance Dumbledore didn't have to die & he could find another way to convince Voldemort, once Dumbledore was dying anyway then he would be like many people watching a loved one die a slow death from disease. By going through with the plan for Dumbledore to die at a set time, he did what he needed to keep the plan on track, but he also kept the man he had grown to respect from suffering a slow painful death. Despite Snape's faults, the only people that he truly wanted to suffer horrible physical pain were those responsible for Lily's death. (He did still have bad feelings towards those that teased him in school, but he wanted emotional vengeance on them, not physical torture.) He wasn't indifferent to the idea of Dumbledore in physical pain or losing respect from being seen as too old & sick, no longer one of the best. He helped Dumbledore "go out in a blaze of glory", & did it in a way that kept secret his own equally hard part of the battle against Voldemort until the moment he was dying too. Even when he revealed the truth of Dumbledore's plan he did it only to Harry, so he could know the very last info he needed to defeat Voldemort, that Harry definitely was a horcrux too & would have to willingly face death. He let everyone think he had betrayed & murdered Dumbledore, knowing he would then be hated forever for it by everyone other than Voldemort & the Death Eaters.
    Snape was seriously a fantastic double agent, even though his reasons for doing it were personal instead of just to stop evil from winning.

  • @leeJCMJPaul
    @leeJCMJPaul 4 роки тому +8

    Fantastic theory Dean! Only difference I would have said that even though Snape used the killing curse on dumbledore, it may not have necessarily killed dumbledore had Snape used avada kedavra in another part of the castle but given dumbledores age, the fact that he was wandless and that the curse packs a punch anyway, it could be possible that it was actually the fall that killed dumbledore rather than the curse because the astronomy tower is the highest tower at Hogwarts. That would keep up appearances with the death eaters and spare Snape's soul

  • @danlapidus3827
    @danlapidus3827 4 роки тому +4

    “You alone know if it will harm your soul to save an old man from pain and humiliation”

  • @PeytonBirbal
    @PeytonBirbal 4 роки тому +6

    Without Snape's intervention, Dumbledore would've died from the cursed ring. Snape ending Dumbledore's life was almost like balancing nature, in a way.

  • @gabrielledormuth4634
    @gabrielledormuth4634 3 роки тому +2

    Alan Rickman was the perfect choice for Snape even though he wasn't a villain in a certain point of view
    Rickman played a couple of my favorite villains, Hans Gruber in Die Hard and the sherif from Robin Hood prince of thieves
    I can't remember what other movies he's been in

  • @denniswang3683
    @denniswang3683 3 роки тому +2

    "Let's get straight into the video!"
    *proceeds to play a 13 second into*

  • @saraa.4295
    @saraa.4295 4 роки тому +5

    First: no, he knew it was a mercy.
    Second: murder, not killing (self defence, accidents and so on. Can be deadly) splits the soul
    Third: the soul wants to stay together, so even if a murder happens the split usually only is temporary, probably leaving a "scar" unless you use the horcrux ritual. Exeption of this rule was voldemort because his soul was weakend.

    • @michaelhowze8198
      @michaelhowze8198 3 роки тому

      Yep all murder is killing but not all killing is murder

  • @mikehattingh5996
    @mikehattingh5996 4 роки тому +11

    When minerva and snape dueled in the great hall snape diverted mierva's attacks and killed the two death eaters in the back ground. So my question is who technically killed them and did their souls get split

    • @neomary66
      @neomary66 4 роки тому +3

      @John Doe I agree, for example I definetly do not believe that Molly's soul was split after killing Bellatrix
      However, watching the duel between Snape and Mcgonagall I never thought that the Carrows behind him died, I always assumed they just fell unconscious

  • @shaynacorrell
    @shaynacorrell 4 роки тому +8

    I believe his soul remained in tact simply because he at the core of his being, he was a good person. We all make mistakes, some bigger than others, some with more detrimental consequences. As J.K. Rowling herself said, Snape is a "gray" character, but every day that passes we make choices that shape who we truly are. Snape could have abandoned everything at any time, both before and after the agreement with Narcissa. I don't believe that he wanted to kill Dumbledore, and I believe in some way he was his only true friend and ally. Snape may have caused a lot of damage in his life, but he also went through a lot of pain and grief. I am definitely a Snape fan, but I can't put aside the things he might have done as a DE. I think all of the DEs killed people, but then again, Snape may have been able to lie to Voldemort about that as well (I certainly hope so).

  • @Nick-kz6dg
    @Nick-kz6dg 3 роки тому +2

    Killing alone doesn’t split the soul, it only causes damage. The Horcrux spell/ritual then takes advantage of that weakness to actually split the soul.

  • @a.mitra7740
    @a.mitra7740 4 роки тому +16

    Snape killed Dumbledore because he wanted him to. Dumbledore said that killing him will taint Draco's soul. Therefore, Snape , being a former death eater must have killed someone before. Even if he got away without killing people,snape would need an object to cast his soul into.

    • @thatambitiousslytherin2488
      @thatambitiousslytherin2488 4 роки тому +3

      And what about Bellatrix Lestrange, she must have killed more people than Snape (if he killed people as a former Death Eater).There is also a good chance, I think, that Bellatrix has also used the Crusiatus Curse.

    • @midnightmoon9511
      @midnightmoon9511 4 роки тому +4

      @@thatambitiousslytherin2488 bellatrix definitely used the cruciatous course becuase she tortured nevilles parents into insanity

    • @ameliashephard2876
      @ameliashephard2876 4 роки тому +5

      I dont believe Snape directly killed anyone prior to Dumbledore because he was worried about his soul.

    • @TheJmsJose97
      @TheJmsJose97 4 роки тому +2

      @@ameliashephard2876 good point.

    • @thatambitiousslytherin2488
      @thatambitiousslytherin2488 4 роки тому

      @@midnightmoon9511 Ow, sorry my mistake I meant the Killing Curse

  • @AustynSN
    @AustynSN 4 роки тому +3

    (Note: This comment was made before watching past the introduction mark at 1:16. I wanted to give my thoughts on the matter before they were influenced by the video)
    It didn't split his soul because it was assisted suicide from an incurable condition to prevent further suffering, not murder.
    As to how he was able to cast it if his heart wasn't in it?
    His heart was in it, just not directly. He didn't truly WANT to kill Dumbledore, but he desperately wanted to stop Voldemort. He NEEDED to protect the son of Lilly Evans. He desired to ease the suffering of a friend and mentor. And while he didn't want to kill Dumbledore, the fact that those three goals each made killing Dumbledore necessary meant that he needed to kill Dumbledore even if he didn't want to. So, Avada Kedavera worked for him.

  • @Gabes1321
    @Gabes1321 4 роки тому +2

    I think what happened is that in the same way that Harry only knocked Bella down when he used CRUCIO. So dumbledore pretended he was killed by the AVADA to trick the death eaters, when really he took too much fall damage from falling off the tower

  • @raymondben36466
    @raymondben36466 4 роки тому +2

    Remorse repairs the split up of the soul. Harry tried to get Voldemort to feel remorse to negate any Horcruxes made by splitting the soul that they may have missed so that he can be killed.

  • @fightingfalcon777
    @fightingfalcon777 4 роки тому +5

    This again makes me wonder though how killing in self-defense/in the heat of battle relates to the potential splitting of the soul for a Wizard

  • @chikowashere
    @chikowashere 4 роки тому +5

    I think that after Snape warned Dumbledore about Voldemort going after Lily, Snape might've made an Unbreakable Vow to stay loyal to Dumbledore and protect Harry. Dumbledore would've made him do this to guarantee that he wouldn't change sides. And he would make him protect Harry not only because Harry was the main target, but because Snape was so dismissive about protecting anyone other than Lily anyway.

    • @MMD_16-95
      @MMD_16-95 3 роки тому +2

      I don't think so, because I believe from the prince tale in the 4 book, Dumbledore asked him if he will join to ex death eater to hide from Voldemort, Snape replied " I'm not such coward" !!

    • @akhilanair4472
      @akhilanair4472 3 роки тому

      snape was not dismissive about protecting harry yes he was a bit dismissive at first but at the next second he willingly accepted it but don't want anyone to know it as harry was not only lily's son but also james who was his bully in school. dumbledore would not do a deadly bound as unbreakable vow with severus let alone anyone, he wanted severus to be loyal at his willingness not by any magical contract.

  • @rebeccagreggforeman4936
    @rebeccagreggforeman4936 4 роки тому +2

    He showed remorse when he was in the Order’s headquarters and took part of Lily’s letter. I really enjoy listening to you!

  • @damanbrook5157
    @damanbrook5157 4 роки тому +11

    Remorse he felt massive remorse in killing him ,so if preforming the killing curse did split his soul the remorse of him doing so would fix it or maybe would prevent it from splitting because Snape was remorseful from the start 🤷‍♂️ I love this channel keep up the good work buddy,I can’t wait to see the riddle story ✌️💚🤘

    • @wpc456cpw
      @wpc456cpw 4 роки тому

      totally agree!

    • @hoganlex1
      @hoganlex1 4 роки тому

      The books talk about remorse, the movies left that part out.

  • @UziMan-Science-Math
    @UziMan-Science-Math 3 роки тому +3

    I cried so hard when Dumbledore died, In book and movie. Like I have tears on the page and I had to wipe it.
    My parents thought I just had nightmares or something.

  • @abdullahal-ani8130
    @abdullahal-ani8130 4 роки тому +23

    Can you do stuff about Aberforth Dumbledore

  • @TnT_F0X
    @TnT_F0X 2 роки тому +1

    Snape's having lunch with Lily then getting teased by Sirius, Lupin and James in the afterlife

  • @ashpatlovany173
    @ashpatlovany173 3 роки тому +2

    Also, Snape prolonged Dumbledore's life by slowing the progression of the curse that was killing him.

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 4 роки тому +35

    I don’t think so, but why did Snape stop Harry from fighting?

    • @meriemayate
      @meriemayate 4 роки тому +4

      Because he knew that elder wand story!

    • @sarah-jaynemcdonald2594
      @sarah-jaynemcdonald2594 4 роки тому +25

      Because the whole point was to keep Harry alive at the last moment.
      Also Snape was protecting harry, if belletrix or other death eaters seen this his cover would have been blown. And all would have been for nothing.

    • @petermeter
      @petermeter 4 роки тому +11

      In the book Harry was under the cloak of invisibility and Dumbledore stunned him, so Harry couldn't move. Snape never stopped him in the book.

    • @macwelch8599
      @macwelch8599 4 роки тому +2

      HansDieter Wurst really? I need to re-read the books

    • @klaudiagrob
      @klaudiagrob 4 роки тому +3

      To protect him

  • @nickhyphendbl2782
    @nickhyphendbl2782 4 роки тому +3

    YESSS YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAPPY I AM ABOUT THIS
    I WAS JUST GOOGLING THIS AND COULDNT FIND AN ANSWER
    thankyou

  • @larryhedrick6458
    @larryhedrick6458 3 роки тому

    Wow man like out of the million youtubers on here even if someone said your content sucked your sincerity sounds for for real you are by far the kindest soul on UA-cam like unrivaled

  • @Jack_of_Hearts4
    @Jack_of_Hearts4 4 роки тому +2

    Interesting theory. I always had the impression that although killing was part of splitting the soul, you still had to do other things while creating a horcux that resulted in your soul being split. It wasn't just killing that splits the soul. If all you had to do was kill someone or something to split your soul then there is a bunch of wizards and witches walking around with split souls. Does that mean that Barty Crouch Jr. split his soul when he killed the spider to demonstrate the curse? I don't think so. Or what about all of the accidental deaths and killings that magic has caused over the years? I don't think those events would split a person's soul.

    • @elliebellieboo
      @elliebellieboo 4 роки тому +2

      And what about the people who fought in battles? Molly Weasley hasn’t got a split soul has she?

    • @ameliashephard2876
      @ameliashephard2876 4 роки тому

      Murder as apossed to just killing.

  • @user-ui7ys5ps6p
    @user-ui7ys5ps6p 4 роки тому +5

    Snape also never forgave dumbledore for letting lilly potter die.

    • @LumTheAlien
      @LumTheAlien 2 роки тому

      It was not Dumbledore's fault that Lilly died, so Snape would not have hated him for that. With the fidelius charm in place, it was ultimately Peter Pettigrew's fault that the potters died.

  • @MW-hq2rm
    @MW-hq2rm 4 роки тому +4

    When the basilisks fang penetrated Harry’s skin, why didnt the Voldemort soul get destroyed.

    • @Raymoiful
      @Raymoiful 4 роки тому

      Good question

    • @cnb687
      @cnb687 4 роки тому +1

      The vessel has to be damaged beyond repair so Harry would have to die for the Horcrux to be destroyed

  • @amandawolfstar1982
    @amandawolfstar1982 2 роки тому +1

    Kind of reminds me of A ,line that John coffe said in the green mile "he killed them with their love, Everyday someone kills sombody with their love." Then John coffe States ." I'm tired boss. Tired of people being ugly to each other, and tired of people being killed with their love. It's like pieces of glass in my head. "If you watch the movie ,it is very very impactful, and it's also based off a book ,that Stephen King wrote. So what I'm trying to say is ,snape killed dumbledore out of love . The green mile is a movie with Tom Hanks in it . And Tom Hanks's character did not want to kill John even though John had already been sentenced to die by a jury of his peers accused of something he didn't do. And there's a point in that movie. Where Tom Hanks' character asks John, 'when I stand before God , on my day of judgment, And, am asked, Why I killed one of his greatest creations ?what am I supposed to say ,it was my job!" To which John replies 'it wasn't the job you had to do, it was the kindness that you gave"., And i my self am going to add. And the understanding and sympathy that you gave. To a man that was always considered guilty just because John coffe was a rather large black man in the south I think this story takes place in the 1920's or 1930's in the state of Georgia .Was still a very dark time in the US past .with segregation .and any homeless black person was considered a threat .just because the color of their skin, even if they were totally innocent ,and John coffe had a special gift. he could heal and see things as they're happening they're happening in other words he was psychic he was both a talipath and a Clarvoient and a healer. And any white people at this time, would think it was evil voodoo ,or something like that. When it really wasn't they were special gifts from God. How that applies to dumbledore however he was gonna die anyway because of the curse from the gaunt ring So in many ways snape was doing dumbledore a favor now whether it was out of love or kindness I don't know but I think it's both.

  • @OrangeHatReviews
    @OrangeHatReviews 3 роки тому +1

    Could also be the fact that Snape was remorseful after he killed Dumbledore. We know that Remorse can heal the soul. Stated as such in Book 7.

  • @TaylorVlogging
    @TaylorVlogging 4 роки тому +3

    Here's another way to rationalize it. Snape's curse didn't actually kill Dumbledore. It only provided enough force to push him off the tower. It was the fall that actually killed him. This way, Snape didn't want to kill him, though, to the Death Eaters, it looked like he did. The reason the unbreakble vow didn't kill Snape is because when the vow was made, it was never said that the murder had to be done with the killing curse. Dumbledore still died because of what Snape did, but because it wasn't magic that killed him, his soul was not split.
    (EDIT): Also, if you watch Dumbledore's death scene, you can see a brief flicker of hesitation in Snape's eyes as he casts the curse. And also, If you watch closely during the shot where Dumbledore is falling, you can see his eyes begin to close, which wouldn't happen if it was the curse that killed him. (example: Cedric, whose eyes remained wide open.)

  • @harperl4347
    @harperl4347 4 роки тому +6

    Early!

  • @waynesmith3908
    @waynesmith3908 4 роки тому +1

    I still remember reading about Professor Snape Killing Dumbledore July 2009 when
    Harry Potter and the half blood prince was released . My head understood
    the plan but my heart weeped and weeped . I was so upset I had to
    backup in the story many chapters when things were happier and reread
    that chapter that night so I could go to sleep.

  • @amandawolfstar1982
    @amandawolfstar1982 2 роки тому +1

    And this I recall when snape showed the silver dough patroness somewhere between those scenes where they had the conversation dumbledore says I never should have revealed the best in you s Severus.

  • @TheFtd87
    @TheFtd87 4 роки тому +8

    first to say second

  • @pinecat3074
    @pinecat3074 4 роки тому +9

    First

    • @ThePrince1835
      @ThePrince1835 4 роки тому +5

      Actually you're a close second

    • @deepseacocoon
      @deepseacocoon 4 роки тому

      The only thing you were first at, was being the first seeker to be a first year

  • @brandonm1088
    @brandonm1088 4 роки тому +1

    Personally I think Snape did use an unforgivable curse but he knew it would be inert, Dumbledore knew this too, so he stood on the edge of the tower.
    Snape's unforgivable curse, similar to Harry's, simply knocked their targets over because the pure emotion and intent wasn't there.
    Dumbledore is clearly alive when he is falling, he wasn't killed by the killing curse, instead he was pushed by it and fell to his death.

  • @joer8854
    @joer8854 4 роки тому +1

    I think when Snape was a Deatheater he truly believed in Voldemort and Voldemort knew it. I think he must have killed before for Voldemort to trust him and believe him as much as he did. This means Snape's soul was already damaged in some way and snape probably believing that having not used the killing curse itself that might not be the case. This is why Snape asked Dumbledore about his soul.

  • @rain-ig5bw
    @rain-ig5bw 4 роки тому +7

    Third

  • @harperl4347
    @harperl4347 4 роки тому +2

    Love your videos SOOOOOOO much dean!

  • @alexanderthurman214
    @alexanderthurman214 2 роки тому

    I totally agree with your assessment of Dumbledore death. #1 He ask Professor Snape to end his life, #2 he saved Malfoy from ruining his life, #3 he had the unbreakable vow, #4 he saved Harry from certain death, #5 he instill his loyalty to Lord Voltimore, #6 he also kept his word to Professor Dumbledore.
    Great Job & God Bless

  • @robertsmithii6947
    @robertsmithii6947 3 роки тому +1

    It wasn't necessarily murder if you think about it. It was more or less a mercy killing. Dumbledore was dying anyway and asked Snape to kill him as not to prolong his agony. I believe that if Snape were to have killed him out of hatred then his soul would had split, but since it was more out of compassion than his soul remained intact.

  • @theempress1104
    @theempress1104 4 роки тому

    Wow the new intro logo for your channel looks suuuuper amazing!!!! And so creative too!!!

  • @Garrystephens92
    @Garrystephens92 4 роки тому +1

    it was a mercy killing severus was also protecting malfoy's soul from killing. Dumbledore knew murdering him would destroy Draco Malfoy (another way to get back at Lucius for failing HWMNBN multiple times)

  • @sage_silvestris
    @sage_silvestris 2 роки тому

    Two lines popped into my mind from a lyric: "My heart can't possibly break
    When it wasn't even whole to start with"
    I think that sums up Snape's mental and spiritual state since his childhood.

  • @imbuffysummers
    @imbuffysummers 4 роки тому +1

    The reason the students wouldn’t be able to get more than a nose bleed from attempting the imperious curse on Moody is because regardless of whether or not their true intent may have been to kill him, their wand would still only be pointing at Barty Crouch Jr.

  • @knitcrochettiger361
    @knitcrochettiger361 4 роки тому +1

    yep, when Snape killed Dumbedore, he didn't do it out of malice....as Bellatrix told Harry, you have to mean it.....also in the Deathly Hallows book Hermione said you need regret to fuse the pieces back together....killing someone does not mean your soul splits...you have to do it out of malice or anger....but with great regret the soul is healed

  • @Goldengirl48
    @Goldengirl48 2 роки тому

    The only thing different in Severus' killing curse was the subtle change in the color of the curse. His curse was a shade of blue as opposed to the flash of brilliant green light that is usually distinctive in the killing curse. I believe that was a kind of protection for Severus. It may even have been cast by Dumbledore to protect Severus' soul from being damaged. Severus' love and respect for Dumbledore further protected them both.

  • @whowiseedet
    @whowiseedet 3 роки тому

    I have a theory on the different colored light from Snape's wand. If you're into chakras, blue is the throat chakra (truth) and green is the heart chakra (love). Voldy loves and wants to kill so the light takes the green form. Snape doesn't want to cast his death curse and in many ways it is a lie, so the blue energy dominates.

  • @emankcin1701
    @emankcin1701 4 роки тому

    I realised (ok I'm not Tom who thinks that he must be the only one) that in PS when Dumbledore awards Neville some points at the ending feast, he says something like:
    "Courage is to face your enemies, and even more to stand against your friends". I think he refers to Snape who abandoned his Death Eater friends.

  • @TnT_F0X
    @TnT_F0X 2 роки тому +1

    This is equivalent to lethal injections for terminally ill patients.
    Doesn't make the doctor a murderer.
    Doesn't make Snape a Murderer, Dumbledor was dying and knew Bellatrix and the werewolf would torture him on his way to Volly.

  • @dutchpangermanist5673
    @dutchpangermanist5673 3 роки тому +1

    Snape made the potion that kept Dumbledore alive, so in nature's eyes Dumbledore was in time behind death due to Snape, without Snape Dumbledore would have died already, so it is just Snape correcting nature the timelime.

  • @JurassicRaptor1993
    @JurassicRaptor1993 2 роки тому

    You will also notice that even though Snape shot Dumbledore, it caused Dumbledore to fall from a great height. Because in the scene Dumbledore still alive as he's falling. It was the landing that kill him.

  • @beingheardmedia6339
    @beingheardmedia6339 3 роки тому

    What he did was a kindness. Dumbles was going to suffer horribly if the curse had been allowed to run its course OR if the rooftop DEs got him (because Bellatrix likes to play with her food first). In other words, he didn't want Dumbles to SUFFER. And there was no hope of keeping him alive. So of course he sincerely wanted Dumbles to die. Hence the curse worked and his soul wasn't split. Then again, who knows? To quote Kate Bush "split him open with devotion" (from the song "Eat the Music")

  • @swyzzlestyx
    @swyzzlestyx 4 роки тому

    Before book seven, it was my theory, Severus Snape had vocalized the Avada Kedavra curse, against Albus Dumbledore, in the tower, but at the same time, cast a Depulso curse, non-verbally, which caused the Headmaster to fly out the window. My supporting evidence, for this, was multi-faceted. Like when Snape dueled Gilderoy Lockhart, in the dueling club. Snape cast the Expelliarmus spell, which should have disarmed Lockhart like it did all other victims, but in the club, the Dark Arts Teacher flew into the air, in both book and film. Also, before the battle, in the tower, all other victims of the Killing Curse fell to the floor. Albus Dumbledore flew out the window. Earlier in the series, I cannot remember when, at this time, it was not only revealed Snape was capable of casting non-verbal spells, but it stressed this ability. I'm sure it was somewhere in Prisoner of Azkaban, but I've been wrong before. Heck, I was wrong with this theory. I couldn't accept Dumbledore was dead.

  • @SavageVR
    @SavageVR 4 роки тому +1

    But wait... Dumbledore was still alive as he fell. The killing curse merely knocked him off the roof. The fall killed him not the curse even though the curse was the catalyst. Maybe the entire intent was to use the curse to push him instead of using the curse to end Dumbledore's life. Sorta like he shot a rubber bullet instead of a rifle shell. Still hurt, still pushed him off but wasn't enough to kill him. Dumbledore allowed himself to die by not ending the fall, which he could have done.

  • @aaronhiatt209
    @aaronhiatt209 3 роки тому

    Albus Dumbledore by that point in the story was not only living on borrowed time due to the curse spreading slowly from his hand, but also in the grip of the poisonous concoction he had to drink for Harry Potter to get his hands on what turned out to be the fake horcrux that Regulus Black had put in place of Slytherin's locket. The combination of both the curse and the toxic brew inflicted both physical and psychological torment on Dumbledore, which meant that to leave him in such a state, the presence of Lestrange and the other Death Eaters notwithstanding, would only have prolonged Dumbledore's suffering as he already stood on the verge of an inescapable demise. This suggests the possibility that Snape's motives, by that point in the timeline, could also have included mercy and compassion, as it most certainly put an end to the fear and pain Albus Dumbledore must certainly have suffered in those final moments. It also stands to reason that Snape was acting in the interest of minimizing the extent of Voldemort's wrath in connection with Draco Malfoy's failure to complete his assigned task on his own, which might otherwise have resulted in Voldemort killing Malfoy as punishment for failing to prove undying loyalty to Voldemort and his cause, not to mention to draw attention away from the fact that Malfoy's use of expelliarmus was what truly determined who was the true master of the Elder Wand -- especially for the fact that Draco had no idea this was the case. Let us not forget that Snape genuinely cared about the young Malfoy. Based upon these premises, the nobility of Snape's intent far outweighed the contemptuous demeanor necessary for the use of Avada Kedavra to result in the splitting of Snape's soul. Even if that were the case, his remorse would have made him whole again, with or without being sentenced to Azkaban.

  • @lyandraangel
    @lyandraangel 3 роки тому

    Considering how Dumbledore fell out the window and certainly hit terminal velocity before reaching the ground, even if the Killing Curse hadn't succeeded, all Dumbledore needed to do was not save his own life in order to preserve Severus' (as he also knew about the Unbreakable Vow). I haven't read the book in some time, so I don't remember if anyone slowed his body in an attempt to save him before he crashed or not.

  • @SirBlade666
    @SirBlade666 4 роки тому +1

    If using a killing curse to end someone life premature is a crime against nature and splits your soul, what about less direct magical ways to kill someone? Set them on fire, levitate them above a large drop and then let go, transmutate their blood, etc, etc. And what about people who use magic to extend life past their natural time by things such as the Philosopher's Stone?

  • @gabri_cheesellamasneeze9006
    @gabri_cheesellamasneeze9006 4 роки тому +4

    So does your soul get split if you murder a house elf or goblin? Or only if you murder a other person? Where do animals and "half-breeds" come into this?

    • @sjouwerman93
      @sjouwerman93 4 роки тому +1

      First thing that popped into my head; you don’t necessarily need to use magic to kill. You could use a sword (basilisk). Or your hands. Or a bow and arrow like the centaurs. I think the splitting souls only applies to the avada kedavera curse.

  • @Aeluron
    @Aeluron 3 роки тому

    Forgotten about the whole "You have to want it" part. Personally I presumed Snapee would prefer Dumbledore live but the situation forced him into a corner so he "wanted" to kill but not out of malice or hatred.

  • @gracecleland5338
    @gracecleland5338 3 роки тому +1

    No-one said the killing cures worked Dumbledore might just have fallen because he was scared

  • @renegarcia8623
    @renegarcia8623 2 роки тому

    There’s a fourth reason: it was a mercy killing. Hence why the light was a light blue instead of its usual green.

  • @moonman8450
    @moonman8450 4 роки тому +1

    I like to believe that only the act of creating a Horcrux splits your soul provided you have killed someone. Otherwise, who wouldn’t have got a split soul after the battle of Hogwarts.
    Dang even Molly Weasley

  • @PitchforkStudios
    @PitchforkStudios 3 роки тому

    Not only are your videos awesome cuz the breakdowns are so good. But that Irish accent certainly brightens em all up.

  • @ivettevera
    @ivettevera 3 роки тому

    I loved your explanation, it makes a lot of sense! And a truly love your videos and specially your accent

  • @advmx3
    @advmx3 2 роки тому

    If I remember correctly, even if your sould is split, the process to make a Horcrux needs you to grab that split part and put into something, a vessel, before your soul get back together. It's like, it splits, but it also get back together, scarred but still whole.
    Besides, I think for a soul to be scarred to the extent of Voldemort, you need to want to kill, to feel pleasure in taking out a life. Taking a life out of fear for your own shoudl't make the same for you, or in Snape's case, to help Dumbledore not to be tortured. I think Dumbledore meant when he said he didn't want Draco's soul to be ruined, he also meant it that Draco wasn't prepared to do that but forced to do it, for the wrong reasons, and that would scarre his soul and mind considerably. Think about it, at that point, he's what? 16? He may have a lot of prejudice against everything, but Dumbledore knew Draco wasn't the kind of person who wanted to kill him. If you don't want to the unforgivable curse won't work. If he fails to do so, even if Snape came after Draco tried, the others would tell Voldemort and Draco would possibly be punished for failing to kill someone else. Voldemort clearny knew how to torture the Malfoys, and as much as I hate them, Draco deserved a better family XD

  • @literarycompost
    @literarycompost 4 роки тому +1

    Love this video! I’d be interested to hear more about curses invented by Snape such as sectumsempra and how they play out being more of a grey area.
    Also, sort of related, but the reason for harry’s potion only working with the half-blood prince’s amendments - is this to do with Fudge/Dolores Umbridge trying to make the wizarding cirriculum less practical-based and her influence is still felt 2 books later? Reaching I know haha

  • @lizbaena2012
    @lizbaena2012 3 роки тому +1

    Remains intact because he loved dumbledore.

  • @windhelmguard5295
    @windhelmguard5295 3 роки тому

    there is a simple reason for why snapes soul remained in tact after he killed dumbledore: it didn't.
    dumbledore mentioned when discussing how hocruxes work with harry that a torn soul will heal over time when you don't make a hocrux and i do believe that this is the reason why, snapes soul WAS torn, but it healed.

  • @tstefanyk6604
    @tstefanyk6604 3 роки тому

    Thank you for covering both these topics. I've wondered about them myself.

  • @sumaiaislam594
    @sumaiaislam594 4 роки тому

    i think that, because he made the unbreakable vow and the fact dumbledore wanted it to happen , it somehow stopped his soul from splitting because if he wanted to do it then it would split his soul, but maybe because he didnt want to it kept his soul intact?

  • @allicide166
    @allicide166 3 роки тому

    Because Dumbledore understood "for the greater good" better than Grindlewald. Even he wasn't above it all and willing to die to save it all.
    I wonder if he'll use that line against Grindlewald when the fantastic beasts movie finally get to their duel. I do hope they bring Depp back.

  • @Bastet32
    @Bastet32 Рік тому

    Please never stop making these videos.