I hate that skin that attached the tongue. I would get bumps at the connection point and they’d hurt. I wanted it done but no doctor would ever consider it. Guess they couldn’t get paid from insurance for it.
That's awesome! I still have my tongue-tie (I'm 52) and every dentist I've ever had was amazed that I didn't have a lisp and when I've asked about releasing my tongue-tie, they advised me against it, fearing it could introduce a speech issue.
My husband was born tongue-tied and it wasn't treated which caused feeding issues, and when he started learning to speak, he developed a speech impediment which persists today. When our son was born tongue-tied, we had it treated when he was five weeks old. He's never had a problem since!
I was born and raised in Germany but I am actually turkish. I had a tongue tie when I was around 6 or 7 years old.I never told my mom that it was actually annoying me - but it did annoy me! I was scared at that time for having a surgery. When I was 16 years old I had my tongue tie finally removed and it felt so amazing after that! I would recommend to do a surgery on your child when it's a bit older...not with 3 week old babies (sorry for my bad english)
@@Demonetization_Symbol Trauma? That's why they said to do the surgery when the child is older, like during their teenage years. Teens undergo several painful procedures already: wisdom teeth removal, first piercings, first tattoos, etc. And the tongue-tie procedure can be done under sleep anesthesia.
Always consult an actual specialized doctor before proceeding with a surgery. Ideally more than one. Even seemingly small surgeries can have big consequences.
@@livingwithlivestockguardians As long as privatized medical coverage exists, shopping around is an essential part of keeping some degree of control in the hands of the consumer. No one should be punished for shopping around.
My heart goes out to these moms. We're all just trying to do our best for our babies. My daughter nursed but it got to the point that I couldn't nurse properly and felt helpless. I had an LC recommend me to a pediatric dentist with a three month wait so I put myself on that list but also got a second opinion from my pediatrician. We got referred to an ENT doctor at the children's hospital and diagnosed her with a tongue tie. Yes my baby cried, yes she felt some pain, but the relief we both got after that procedure was amazing. The difference though was that the procedure used a water laser, so it was quick, no burnt flesh, and her tongue healed quickly and I was able to nurse immediately after. I will say I'm grateful I spoke to my pediatrician first because honestly, she was the one who told me that the dentist I was referred to was just cashing in on it and she was right. It was going to cost over a grand unless you had dental insurance for kiddos. I definitely think a second opinion matters quite a bit in these situations.
I’m glad you shared your experience. I’m a retired International Board Certified Lactation Consultant. The LC in the story should have referred those moms to their medical professionals. We can’t diagnose but we can give our professional opinion & direct the mom to medical care. I’m so glad you went to your pediatrician who sounds knowledgeable about tongue tie & gave an appropriate referral.
100%, I’m not even a mom but I am ready to fight for my children. No one will bully me into anything. (I have compassion for the mom in this video, but idk man, idk how she didn’t get a second opinion.)
When I was born, my parents were told I had this and that I needed surgery. My dad did not believe them and refused. Im 25 years old now and I have NEVER had any issues swallowing, speaking, or anything tongue related. My dad was right, and who knows what would have happened to me if they did do the procedure eventhough I didnt need it.
good for you, i watched my classmate be relentlessly bullied by our spanish teacher because his tongue tie gave him a lisp and made it physically impossible for him to roll his Rs, being told he just didnt believe in God enough and was sinful. he was sobbing.
My son had a tongue tie. He was in pain all the time. He kept swallowing air every time he ate. My husband had a tongue tie when he was little so we ended up getting the tongue surgery at 9 weeks. Afterwards, he ate much better and was not screaming during every feed. However, the recovery was traumatic for both him and me. We had to stretch his tongue up so tissues wouldn't retighten 4x a day for three weeks. I could barely cope with the crying like he was being tortured. I still shiver when I think about it, but I know of no other way for my situation. I am sure we dealt with the repercussions of it in some ways emotionally, but he was okay and is doing fine today. My second son had a smaller tongue tie, but he ate much better, so I refused to put him through it.
All three of my children were unable to breast-feed, latch, or extract even a drop of milk due to their severe tongue and lip ties. Getting it lasered by a highly skilled professional is the best thing we’ve ever done.
My brother had this surgery, I think he around 6 or 7. It affected his speech, he was in speech therapy for a while before they recommended the surgery. The only person who could understand him fully was me, not even our mom could. I was happy when he got the surgery I was tired if translating everything he said
I'm sure in retrospect that he was grateful for you. Having one person who fully understands your speech is miles and miles different from having no one who fully understands your speech.
There’s a Dad on Facebook with a similar thing. He can't understand what the second-youngest (if I remember correctly) says, so he has to get the middle child (I believe) to translate. I guess she has a bit of an “ugh, Dad, how did you not get that” attitude when it comes to it. 😆
@@awesomepumashoes I’m repeating the documented medical literature. Doctors overdo this because it’s profitable and a simple procedure, but it is beneficial to those who actually need it.
@@xx133where do you draw that line though? If someone has a mild tongue tie, but theoretically would speak slightly more eloquently with the procedure, couldn’t the case be made that it’s “worth it”?
Aww my 17 yr old was born with this. I felt so bad. His was pretty severe. Poor babies. I feel so bad. He was considered a failure to thrive. He’s now 6’4” and a healthy size. Trust your gut moms.
My oldest son had his snipped when he was 2 months. He was back asleep before we walked out of the room. He couldn’t even stick out his tongue and my daughter had speech problems. I was worried about him. Funny no one checked her for tongue tie. She finally was able to speak clearly around 5 after going to a private school where they worked with her phonics. Wonder if she had it too? Hmmm….about 44 years too late. lol!
My daughters life was saved by the tongue tie procedure! She was two weeks old and cried constantly and wouldn’t feed breast or bottle she was loosing so much weight I thought I was going to loose my baby girl ! At two weeks old one of the many Pediatric doctors we saw those first two weeks. My baby was crying like always and the doctor miraculously noticed the tongue tie. That same day, we went to an ENT (NOT A DENTIST) and they clipped it (NOT WITH A LASER!) took less than two minutes and she cried for a few seconds then latched onto bottle and took a feeding for the FIRST TIME IN HER SHORT LIFE!!! saved my baby girls life!!! That being said , so many WTF’s about a DENTIST doing these with LASERS?? It should always be done by an ENT and only clipped never burned off with a freaking laser. I’m sure that WAS completely TRAUMATIC for MOM and BABY!!!
The laser produces less bleeding and supposedly less pain. Ask a big kid or an adult about their experience with it. Either way is valid IMO but I'm not sure why a pediatric dentist can't specialize in this either. All 3 of my kids were done by the pediatric dentist who specializes in laser frenectomies, and my first baby was losing weight like yours.
There’s no bleeding when a laser is used. It does smell like burning flesh because the tissue is in fact cauterized to prevent bleeding. It is routinely done in the dental practices because dentists understand mouth anatomy more than any other medical discipline, aside from ENT. Though personally I would make an argument saying that Dentist understand, mouth anatomy, more than even ENT.
You would have to understand the difference in an anterior tie vs a posterior tie. A posterior tie shouldn’t just be snipped with scissors as that CAN bleed whereas an anterior tie typically doesn’t bleed much at all.
*Daughter's. *Breastfeed or *bottle feed. Then a period. *She was *losing. *Lose. The pediatric Dr. sentence doesn't make any sense. You need to add to that sentence what the pediatric Dr. did. Period before "Took". Onto *a bottle. "Saved" should be capitalized. *Girl's life. Also, it is completely fine for these surgeries to be performed by dentists. That was not the issue. I believe the issue was that the babies in this video didn't actually need surgeries. Yes, some dentists may not do the surgery properly, but that does not mean dentists shouldn't, that means those dentists in particular should not be doing them.
A tongue tie is necessary for proper jaw formation. Many children may need a second one. This is a very important surgery for those who need it, so PLEASE don't let this scare you. Research, get a second, even third opinion, and find someone reputable if you do decide on the procedure.
I have a tongue tie-- Both of my boys 3 and 1 years old both have a tongue tie and never had any issues with breastfeeding none of my children and still at it breastfeeding fully for like the last 3 years straight!! My husband and I was told our boys would have problems too with there tongue tie and tried to convience us to get this procedure we declined it and i and just fine!!
This sounds just like a very unfortunate experience. Both my babies were born with tongue and lip ties. One was treated by an ent at just a few days old and it changed our breastfeeding journey immediately for the better. My son was born with it but drs weren’t overly concerned, but by age 5 the dentist was the one who suggested going ahead and treating to prevent further speech, hygiene and other issues in the future. It was again, a great process. And he has benefited immensely. I think everyone needs to do their own doctor research as well as weighing the benefits to them, their child and their situations, but you can’t shame a whole legitimate medical problem because of one bad outcome.
@@amethystflower8799bruh you keep popping up in all these people’s comments shaming them for choosing a procedure that allowed their children to speak clearly
some information I feel was left out if reporting about the dangers of doing unnecessary tongue tie surgery .. like why after having the tongue tie surgery the infant couldn't have solid foods, what went wrong with the surgery to cause that? and was the surgery recommended for a latching issue cause she was already breastfeeding strictly for 3 weeks and so after the surgery the infant all of sudden can only take a bottle? i was concerned my son had a tongue tie issue but all it took was some time and he got better at latching
It sounds to me like maybe it would due to pain from the surgery leaving her with trauma so she's anxious and distrustful with things around her mouth. Someone else in the comments said that you have to stretch the tongue four times a day after the procedure to keep it from re-fusing and it's painful for the baby, so it's not surprising really.
@Potatoe-f6u Babies don't get such lasting traumas, they usually forget and go over it with time. For her, not to be eating any solids at age over 1 year, it really points at something else. As if she still experiences pain or some sensory issue (which might be unrelated). Something was left out and not explained here.
I still have my tongue tie. Didn't have any issues being breastfed as a baby, and never had issues eating or speaking later on (just a slight lisp which I managed to reduce with speech therapy). The only thing you really need to look out for is that the child is able to put their tongue to the roof of their mouth. I am able to do this except for the very tip of my tongue, but I only corrected my tongue posture and swallowing practices later on in life, when I got speech therapy. By that time, my upper jaw had already grown to be narrow, and the tongue tie was also linked to my tongue thrusting habits, which caused an open bite. I plan to correct these things by getting braces next year, but it will never be perfect because my upper jaw has already fused. In short, a tongue tie doesn't always need treatment, especially if it's only holding back the very tip of the tongue (look up anterior vs. posterior tongue tie). BUT it is crucial to make sure the child is able to keep up correct tongue posture and swallowing habits in order to prevent dental issues later down the line.
This is very true. As an orthodontic assistant I know how crucial tongue placement is on the formation of the upper jaw during the early developing years. That’s why “mewing” has become a big thing in the last 5-6 years. I hope more people see your comment! It’s very valuable information. 😊
@@KIMjB72 I only found out about it when I was already older, and my speech therapist adviced against it because I would have had to learn how to talk and swallow in a new way. It was more so a mistake on my parents' part to not pay attention to my tongue posture and swallowing habits, as I am perfectly capable of placing my tongue correctly and swallowing correctly, with just a little more effort than others. They just never taught me about it, and my tongue tie contributed to problems that didn't have to be problems in the first place. Then again, they simply didn't have the knowledge. In short, knowledge is key. Every kid, tongue tie or not, needs to learn about correct tongue posture and swallowing. Kids with tongue ties may need a little extra help. When the tongue tie is so severe that they physically cannot do it, you snip.
@@Iroh12345 😂😂😂 now it's your parents fault but you we in a long SSA 3 paragraphs to simply say my life would have been better if I got a tongue tie fixed just look at all the money I'm still spending to try and fix the issue.
This was hard to watch. I could not imagine how much that surgery must hurt and the loss of trust these babies must have. You can see how traumatic this has been on the families. I hope they get the help they need.
No one bullied these moms to get it done. It was their decision at the end of the day. I hate it when ppl blame all their problems on someone else. Do your research, talk to multiple professionals. The LC didn’t force them to get their babies to do the procedure. If they were uncomfortable with the LC, then switch
I'm glad someone said it because it was ridiculous to watch someone cry over something they willingly subjected their child to. Why on earth would your doctor not be your first point of call? The minute they felt they were 'bullied,' they could've walked out with their child and never gone back again. What was she gonna do, come to your home and forcibly perform the surgery? You shouldn't be letting anyone bully you into anything but especially not when it comes to a child's health and wellbeing.
@@lindasamba4816 100% and this woman did her job!! Then they all bullied her until she was forced out of business over what doctors did and parents agreed to over a consultation!
I was told both my babies needed tongue tie surgery even though both were breastfeeding well. I was told they would have speech issues. Luckily we had one doctor who told us it wasn’t necessary and there could be complications. But there was one doctor who really pressured me to do it and I don’t do it and it made him mad! They both have no speech issues and I’m thankful to that doctor who told me the truth.
My son was tounge tied. He breastfed immediately after birth. Nursed him for 9 months no problems he went straight to a sippie cup. His speech was normal but he chose to have the surgery as an adult because it wss aggravating him. He said the surgery was a tough and painful recovery but hes doing fine.
If you don’t get your child breast feeding oral therapy to strengthen the tongue before and after the release, they will definitely have a hard time feeding. The babies will have more range of motion but no way of controlling or utilizing their “new” tongue. And I’m not hearing anything about that from these two women.
I feel like this is something that pediatricians should look for in the hospital when the baby is born. My son was fully tongue tied, but we didn’t know it right away. He was struggling to latch on and he was losing weight. We were still in the hospital and I noticed when he was crying that he was tongue tied. I mentioned it to the pediatrician, she confirmed, and clipped it when she did his circumcision. He started latching much better right away.
I'm glad it worked out, but people reading this, please don't do this yourself! This is a procedure for a professional to perform. There is too much at stake to take a risk like that. You risk infection, excessive bleeding, damaging salivary glands, etc.
My baby was having problems lactating and at 3 months he had a tongue tie surgery and I cannot be happier he is doing great after that and his demeanor and his eating habits and overall expression changed after that for the better. One of the signs is the baby's tongue will be heart-shaped when he cries and the lactation will be very painful. It all goes away after the baby is surgically treated
EVERYONE has this, otherwise you couldn't control your tongue, but being labeled tongue-tied the attachment is closer to the teeth and shorter, greatly limiting movement of the tongue. I suffered from this since birth (not knowing what it was), then in my twenties a dentist informed me & then performed this procedure while I was also getting some extensive dental work done. I'm so thankful because it helped me drastically......beforehand I had speech impediments, a high risk of choking, & as a wind instruments musician, I had restricted embouchure that limited my success. While I didn't feel the procedure bc my mouth was numb in preparation for the dental work, the recovery & healing of it was very, very painful & seemed to take forever.
I was really close to having my daughter’s tongue tie removed because we were having difficulty getting her to nurse but I did my research and I’m so glad I did. Turns out the problem was colic, not her tongue tie. It’s such an overly diagnosed thing.
My son had a small one he still have one he said it doesn’t bother him he doesn’t have a lisp or speech issue. He is highly intelligent and speak extremely well for a 9 year old.
People have been feeding their babies for billions of years. Why do you have to do this now? if it was a big problem, don’t you think humans were being born without it?
Look I’m currently 20 yrs old with tongue tie, I’m alive but the tongue tie is so annoying either problems with speech like slow talker or maybe slow eater but mostly it annoys me just cuz that string exists and I can feel it in my mouth so tbh I’ll suggest any parents that got their infant or child with tongue tie, just do it for them as long as the doctor knows what he’s doing
I am a speech language pathologist. Ankyloglossia (tongue tie) does, and can, negatively impact feeding and speech. So if the case is severe enough, parents should seek out a doctor to assess and perform the procedure (I wouldn’t use a dentist). If they decide against it, no amount of therapy is going to overcome what is structural: limited tongue mobility due to the shortened frenum. It is worth it when done by the right expert.
I have so many questions 1. Why werent they in the room 2. If the baby was already breastfeeding, then why do the procedure? 3. Why was the baby awake?!?
They tried to say my baby was a good candidate for this surgery 2 days after but I refused and she’s now healthy and good. She breastfed fine after coming home from hospital.
@@nancyfarkas3592 Haha, nobody bullied them nobody forced them. They were told it was a good idea and without research just took one ladies opinion. That is totally the mom’s choice. Nobody took her baby away from her and did it without her permission. Nobody said they would take her baby away nobody said they would call the cops if she didn’t do it. Good try though.
In my area, they wont do surgery unless its really severe. My husband had it done when he was little because he legitimately couldnt move his tongue. Our youngest is moderately tongue tied and has been doing speech therapy for the last couple of years. They wont give him surgery, which im fine with. Hes already had his first surgery at 4 for clogged tear ducts.
This is misleading information. Releasing a tongue tie is 100% beneficial. But you have to do your research and make sure whomever is doing it, is doing so the right way. Plus aftercare is really important. Parents can't get pissy if they didn't do their research. That's on them.
I’m so happy me and my ex always waited for any surgery and we voiced this with the kids’ pediatrician. They were older when we tried everything else first.
My youngest son had tongue tie and upper lip tie. Doctors said the procedure would help him latch because he wasn't latching well. He never did latch after the procedure. I ended up having a love/hate relationship with my pump and got pretty depressed that he couldn't bond like I was hoping. Also had to stop pumping after 6 months because my breast got infected with inner ductal yeast. Very painful time. I luckily already had over 7,000 oz stashed in my freezer and it lasted until he was about 11 months old. His first year was very tough for me but he's growing up and doing well. Stay blessed and keep the faith 💜💫🙏
The American medical system never ceases to amaze me. THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR A TOUNGE TIE RELEASE!!! It is done for free in most African hospitals. It literally takes 1 minute and you don't need a lazer! WAH!
Let’s sound the alarm about the unnecessary procedure of CIRCUMCISION. I don’t hear people talking about the screams from their baby and “smell of burnt flesh” with a 100% aesthetic procedure.
My husband had this surgery. He is so grateful for his Mom who had took him as a young boy to see a good dr. to fix his tongue tie. As a boy he had an issue with his tongue tie and he would stutter. Today he has no issues.
Had twins. One was flourishing, the other was not and was clicking when trying to latch. Had a tongue-tie release surgery (phrenuloplasty), and immediately after the surgery, he latched on with no clicks. He had a strong suction and began to flourish. So, new mommas, don't be afraid.
My brother's child health nurse noticed he was tongue and just quickly flicked the tongue tie with her finger nail, releasing it. It wasn't viewed as a complex procedure requiring referral. That was back in the early 1970's in Australia.
My oldest son who is turning 41 next month had this. I took him to the dr and all they did was clip it. He was about two months old. He was asleep by the time we walked out. I don’t think he even cried. It wasn’t a big deal then
My daughter had a lip and tongue tie and breastfeeding was very painful and she struggled to suck naturally. Getting her the surgery at 6 months helped her so much and now she talks and chews her food amazingly.
@@thea_therian Babies that young still feel pain, thats why doctors don’t operate in real surgeries without anesthesia anymore. It used to be a huge misconception that they didnt
I think it’s a problem when the ‘cord’ is too short and the tongue can’t reach the roof of the mouth when the jaw is open. I’ve actually torn mine slightly in the past, dunno how but some small tears appeared on the cord. Maybe I overstretched mine 😅
Just because you got talked into doing something does not mean anyone pressured you. That just means that you don't know how to do your own research or stand up to someone who has an idea.
I have two children who were born with this condition. My first baby had his taken care of at the hospital after we failed to get him latched onto me, He was miserable and I was miserable. My second child also had it when born. We were unable to pay for this procedure and tried our best to accommodate her while growing up with a tongue tie. She had issues with chewing food, Cleaning food out of her teeth, foul breath and then later in life it started causing her pain. She had it clipped when she was 14 years old and everything has been so much better for her. My best advice is to go with your gut and try not to blame others for the choices you make.
Had my tongue tie "released" when I was old enough to remember, maybe 4 to 5? Im guessing when I started to talk it was the cause of a speech impediment.
My nephew had tongue tie when he was a baby. He had surgery because he can’t eat breastfeeding. My sister noticed he lost weight and tried get him feeding but not successfully… Have no choice to surgery
excuse me im not a doctor but arent those tongue ties especially there to avoid them falling back and choke on their tongue? i still have mine. its not an issue.
Please go to your general dentist for these needs as they work with tongue ties or can refer you to someone that can.general dentists, pediatric dentists, and ENTs all work in this area and oral surgeons do not. It is fairly simplistic procedure with the proper training and please do not go to unqualified and unlicensed individuals ( IE : lactation specialist aka no degree, no formal training). Very bizarre story.
I was born tongue-tied and my mother took me to the doctor at 6 weeks, he snipped, and I've been impossible to shut up ever since. Now it's a $1,000 "procedure" that is "controversial"? WTH?
My son was born with a tongue tie and the doctors pressured us and pressured us to schedule a time to have it surgically removed. My MIL also pressured us as she had one and says if we don’t remove it my son will talk funny, with a slur… I asked so many questions and ultimately refused it. It just didn’t seem right? My son is 2.5 now and speaks very well for his age!! ❤
I was born with a tongue-tie and I didn't even realize it wasn't normal until I was an adult (I just thought other kids had weirdly long tongues when they'd stick them out, compared to mine). Since it didn't cause a speech impediment or other issues, I've never had mine released (in fact, when I asked about it, I was advised against it since it could introduce a speed impediment where I didn't have one). My maternal grandfather also had one that he'd never had released, and he was fluent in 5 languages with no speech impediments. As an infant I was bottle-fed (it was the 70s and I was primarily raised by my grandmother), so at least that was never an issue for me.
This is a bit dramatic. Both my kids have had their tongue tie released. The procedure is like 5 seconds. Sure its not gunna feel amazing, but its not some deep huge procedure
My daughter had problems breastfeeding. The hospital never identified a tongue tie or lip tie. A lactation consultant came after we went home and referred us to a dentist who specialized in the procedure and they diagnosed it. They said it would help with breastfeeding. She could still not breastfeed after the procedure even with a nipple shield and trying an SNS. At that point she had already taken a bottle so it was a challenge to breastfeed. She had a speech delay even after the repair. In the big scheme of things I do wonder if she could have gone without it, but I would have always wondered if repairing it would have helped with breastfeeding so I guess it was the best decision at the time.
My son was born with a tongue tie. I exclusively breast fed my daughter until she was almost 3 but I didn’t car as much about breastfeeding my son. Although I was wanting to establish the best latch for my son before day two of life. I didn’t care how he got his nourishment. I just pumped and gave him what needed. I happy as long as he was fed. The surgery was not an option in my opinion so as he developed his speech I helped him practice his speech and gave him exercises he could do with his tongue. I even taught him sign language to help him communicate with us. He’s about to be three in November and is thriving with speech and eating everything he can get his hands on.
I have seen those surgical procedures in school. Some people become overeaters later in life, and turn to tongue piercing to help curb mouth pain. Don't do it to your baby if they won't nurse. A bottle fed baby will feel just as loved by their moms, dads babysitters grandparents, as regular nursing does.
It sounds like something went wrong. Both my kids had tongue tie surgery and I was sitting right there. It took 10 seconds and I never smelled burnt flesh wtf???? 😢
My son was born tongue tied, I considered getting the procedure done. My 15 year old cousin stepped forward & asked me to not have it done ,because it left him with a speech impediment. Thank God I just pushed forward and fed him every hour until his tongue had stretched well enough to nurse. I latter had two more sons one with one with out . 6 grandchildren zero have the problem. I had a speech therapist work with my 2 for a year each & both spoke with out any problems before age 3 .
I was born tongue-tied myself, but luckily it was so minor my only "problem" was that I couldn’t stick my tongue out as far as everyone else, my speech and eating was luckily unaffected. My mom was asked whether or not I should get surgery for it and she said no due to how minor it was, and so it persists to this day as a benign quirk of mine.
My son had his tongue tie fixed with a laser at 1, and it significantly helped him. His speech improved, and he screamed much less, he ate better, and his motor control improved. Tongue ties can affect children in many different ways! I am so thankful we had it done!
My brother and I r both tongue tied. My brother's was little worse. He didn't get the surgery until he was in his early teens. His speech improved. I never got the surgery though. Being tongue tied, missing a tooth towards the front (born without it, didn't exist as a baby or adult tooth) so I have gapping causing a lisp, being dyslexic and suffering from anxiety disorders (both weren't diagnosed till I was older) I had to take special speech and reading classes through our elementary school. Honestly I really wish I had gotten the surgery. Also wishing they had fixed my missing tooth issue much sooner too. It would have helped me out so much more.
My child spent 33 days in the NICU because he would suck so hard that he’d stop breathing and his oxygen levels would plummet dangerously. He was barely eating because he’d get so exhausted while eating or would cry as if it hurt to suck on the bottle. Had the lactation consultant working with me but my boy was not going to be able to nurse. We were able to bring him home when the hospital was sure we knew how to feed him while being able to properly handle things if he had another breathing episode. He was home for less than 2 days when I saw the tongue tie. NO ONE at the hospital caught it, not even the lactation consultant who had put her fingers in his mouth to feel around multiple times. Just kept blaming his issue on him being almost a month premature. They had blinders on and my poor baby along with his dad and I went through hell because of it. Had the surgery and he never had another feeding/breathing episode again. Some babies need the surgery
My nephew had this proceedure when he was a baby. My nephew wasnt able to nurse correctly due to a tongue tie and my sister had no idea. She was so upset and blamed herself for starving him and not knowing. But she got this recommendation from her PEDIATRICIAN and only AFTER there was a known issue. Never go for a surgery on a baby unless absolutely necessary
I knew after I had my son that something was wrong with our breastfeeding journey. It hurt so bad every time. At 5 weeks, we went to the ENT and he got his tongue clipped. Instant relief. He’s 5 now and still struggles with choking on water. Hoping he’ll grow out of it.
My daughter's pediatrician said he believed she had a slight tongue tie, but, in his opinion, he did not think would impact her feeding abilities but offered to refer us to a specialist if we wanted another opinion. I remember him saying children have been living with tougue ties for years, but he felt surgery has been overused now. My husband and I decided against it, and she thriving. Happy we didn't put her through that!
My cousins doctor used his fingernail in his office when she was 4. No extra charge, just a routine health check. This was back in the 60's. She had to go to therapy to correct her speech impediment because it wasn't done before she learned to talk. Normally they would do this as an infant.
I had this surgery as an adult. Once healed, my horrible lisp was gone. 19 years of speech therapy never helped.
I got my tonsils out and same situation, my lips went completely away. Years of speech therapy and all I needed was my tonsils out.
i had this surgery, i still have trouble
I’m so happy it worked for you! That must have been wonderful for you to experience losing your lisp!
I hate that skin that attached the tongue. I would get bumps at the connection point and they’d hurt. I wanted it done but no doctor would ever consider it. Guess they couldn’t get paid from insurance for it.
That's awesome! I still have my tongue-tie (I'm 52) and every dentist I've ever had was amazed that I didn't have a lisp and when I've asked about releasing my tongue-tie, they advised me against it, fearing it could introduce a speech issue.
My husband was born tongue-tied and it wasn't treated which caused feeding issues, and when he started learning to speak, he developed a speech impediment which persists today. When our son was born tongue-tied, we had it treated when he was five weeks old. He's never had a problem since!
Did your husband do his tongue too? As an adult?
Could be a coincidence
Yeah I wonder. My daughter slurs her words. Now I’m thinking maybe it should be done, but she’s already 10.
What kind of parents just believe someone who is not a doctor and not get a second opinion!
Desperate ones? I dunno.
A lot. A lot of parents don’t trust the medical system, sometimes for legitimate reasons, sometimes uninformed reasons.
Doctors fo the same thing. I would never get this done for my child no matter what
And to get them surgery without anesthesia no less!
Parents who feel pressured, scared their baby will die. Don't judge them too harshly, even if they really should have sought real medical advice.
I was born and raised in Germany but I am actually turkish.
I had a tongue tie when I was around 6 or 7 years old.I never told my mom that it was actually annoying me - but it did annoy me! I was scared at that time for having a surgery.
When I was 16 years old I had my tongue tie finally removed and it felt so amazing after that!
I would recommend to do a surgery on your child when it's a bit older...not with 3 week old babies
(sorry for my bad english)
What about trauma?
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@@Demonetization_Symbol Trauma? That's why they said to do the surgery when the child is older, like during their teenage years.
Teens undergo several painful procedures already: wisdom teeth removal, first piercings, first tattoos, etc.
And the tongue-tie procedure can be done under sleep anesthesia.
Always consult an actual specialized doctor before proceeding with a surgery. Ideally more than one. Even seemingly small surgeries can have big consequences.
Unfortunately some insurance companies accuse you of doctor shopping when you get a second or third opinion and try to avoid paying for the bills.
@@livingwithlivestockguardians Damn, that sucks.
@@livingwithlivestockguardians As long as privatized medical coverage exists, shopping around is an essential part of keeping some degree of control in the hands of the consumer. No one should be punished for shopping around.
So can leaving your tongue literally connected to the bottom of your mouth your whole life
My heart goes out to these moms. We're all just trying to do our best for our babies. My daughter nursed but it got to the point that I couldn't nurse properly and felt helpless. I had an LC recommend me to a pediatric dentist with a three month wait so I put myself on that list but also got a second opinion from my pediatrician. We got referred to an ENT doctor at the children's hospital and diagnosed her with a tongue tie. Yes my baby cried, yes she felt some pain, but the relief we both got after that procedure was amazing. The difference though was that the procedure used a water laser, so it was quick, no burnt flesh, and her tongue healed quickly and I was able to nurse immediately after. I will say I'm grateful I spoke to my pediatrician first because honestly, she was the one who told me that the dentist I was referred to was just cashing in on it and she was right. It was going to cost over a grand unless you had dental insurance for kiddos. I definitely think a second opinion matters quite a bit in these situations.
I’m glad you shared your experience. I’m a retired International Board Certified Lactation Consultant. The LC in the story should have referred those moms to their medical professionals. We can’t diagnose but we can give our professional opinion & direct the mom to medical care. I’m so glad you went to your pediatrician who sounds knowledgeable about tongue tie & gave an appropriate referral.
I would never do that to my kid. You made a mistake
as a mom you had a choice you could have picked up your baby and left if you felt bullied that’s a red flag that it wasn’t right for your child
100%, I’m not even a mom but I am ready to fight for my children. No one will bully me into anything. (I have compassion for the mom in this video, but idk man, idk how she didn’t get a second opinion.)
Like cercimcison.
Lack of accountability on her part to claim she was bullied
@@joyakahome1551Right. An adult claiming to be bullied.
A red flag for sure, more likely against the provider, not necessarily the child
When I was born, my parents were told I had this and that I needed surgery. My dad did not believe them and refused. Im 25 years old now and I have NEVER had any issues swallowing, speaking, or anything tongue related. My dad was right, and who knows what would have happened to me if they did do the procedure eventhough I didnt need it.
good for you, i watched my classmate be relentlessly bullied by our spanish teacher because his tongue tie gave him a lisp and made it physically impossible for him to roll his Rs, being told he just didnt believe in God enough and was sinful. he was sobbing.
Same! My dad ignored them and I grew up speaking (and eating) just fine. I can do cool tricks with my tongue though 😂
Some people outgrow it! I never outgrew mine but I never had and serious issues.
Same 30 here and never heard of people cutting that wth
Yes. Please keep speaking out. Parents need to stop subjecting their children to this
My son had a tongue tie. He was in pain all the time. He kept swallowing air every time he ate. My husband had a tongue tie when he was little so we ended up getting the tongue surgery at 9 weeks. Afterwards, he ate much better and was not screaming during every feed. However, the recovery was traumatic for both him and me. We had to stretch his tongue up so tissues wouldn't retighten 4x a day for three weeks. I could barely cope with the crying like he was being tortured. I still shiver when I think about it, but I know of no other way for my situation. I am sure we dealt with the repercussions of it in some ways emotionally, but he was okay and is doing fine today. My second son had a smaller tongue tie, but he ate much better, so I refused to put him through it.
All three of my children were unable to breast-feed, latch, or extract even a drop of milk due to their severe tongue and lip ties. Getting it lasered by a highly skilled professional is the best thing we’ve ever done.
Not good for your kids
@@amethystflower8799
source: “trust me bro”
My brother had this surgery, I think he around 6 or 7. It affected his speech, he was in speech therapy for a while before they recommended the surgery. The only person who could understand him fully was me, not even our mom could. I was happy when he got the surgery I was tired if translating everything he said
I'm sure in retrospect that he was grateful for you. Having one person who fully understands your speech is miles and miles different from having no one who fully understands your speech.
There’s a Dad on Facebook with a similar thing. He can't understand what the second-youngest (if I remember correctly) says, so he has to get the middle child (I believe) to translate. I guess she has a bit of an “ugh, Dad, how did you not get that” attitude when it comes to it. 😆
Go to your Dr, never let just Anyone do any type of surgery with your baby. 😢
If you notice, they edited it so it sounded like the LC performed, but she referred them to a pediatric dentist.
Yeah doctor will just do the same thing. The degree doesn’t mean much these days
I had that surgery in my late 20s. Im doing well, and im 60. It allows you to speak clearer.
You ain't a baby
@@wlachappelleit’s beneficial for some, it’s just being overused
@@xx133”speaking clearer is only reserved for those who REALLY need it” okay bro
@@awesomepumashoes I’m repeating the documented medical literature. Doctors overdo this because it’s profitable and a simple procedure, but it is beneficial to those who actually need it.
@@xx133where do you draw that line though? If someone has a mild tongue tie, but theoretically would speak slightly more eloquently with the procedure, couldn’t the case be made that it’s “worth it”?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but something like this should be done by a doctor or a surgeon, not a dentist!!!
My son's was done by the doctor at birth. Never heard of a dentist doing it. This report has all kinds of weird information
No… I could see this being done by a dentist… it’s an oral surgery.
Dentists aren’t allowed to touch tongues. That is not part of their field of work.
Theirs is gums and teeth.
@@jessicab331
Wrong. Gums and teeth only.
dentists do oral surgeries though...
Aww my 17 yr old was born with this. I felt so bad. His was pretty severe. Poor babies. I feel so bad. He was considered a failure to thrive. He’s now 6’4” and a healthy size. Trust your gut moms.
My oldest son had his snipped when he was 2 months. He was back asleep before we walked out of the room. He couldn’t even stick out his tongue and my daughter had speech problems. I was worried about him. Funny no one checked her for tongue tie. She finally was able to speak clearly around 5 after going to a private school where they worked with her phonics. Wonder if she had it too? Hmmm….about 44 years too late. lol!
My daughters life was saved by the tongue tie procedure! She was two weeks old and cried constantly and wouldn’t feed breast or bottle she was loosing so much weight I thought I was going to loose my baby girl ! At two weeks old one of the many Pediatric doctors we saw those first two weeks. My baby was crying like always and the doctor miraculously noticed the tongue tie. That same day, we went to an ENT (NOT A DENTIST) and they clipped it (NOT WITH A LASER!) took less than two minutes and she cried for a few seconds then latched onto bottle and took a feeding for the FIRST TIME IN HER SHORT LIFE!!! saved my baby girls life!!! That being said , so many WTF’s about a DENTIST doing these with LASERS?? It should always be done by an ENT and only clipped never burned off with a freaking laser. I’m sure that WAS completely TRAUMATIC for MOM and BABY!!!
The laser produces less bleeding and supposedly less pain. Ask a big kid or an adult about their experience with it. Either way is valid IMO but I'm not sure why a pediatric dentist can't specialize in this either. All 3 of my kids were done by the pediatric dentist who specializes in laser frenectomies, and my first baby was losing weight like yours.
There’s no bleeding when a laser is used. It does smell like burning flesh because the tissue is in fact cauterized to prevent bleeding. It is routinely done in the dental practices because dentists understand mouth anatomy more than any other medical discipline, aside from ENT. Though personally I would make an argument saying that Dentist understand, mouth anatomy, more than even ENT.
You would have to understand the difference in an anterior tie vs a posterior tie. A posterior tie shouldn’t just be snipped with scissors as that CAN bleed whereas an anterior tie typically doesn’t bleed much at all.
*Daughter's. *Breastfeed or *bottle feed. Then a period. *She was *losing. *Lose. The pediatric Dr. sentence doesn't make any sense. You need to add to that sentence what the pediatric Dr. did. Period before "Took". Onto *a bottle. "Saved" should be capitalized. *Girl's life.
Also, it is completely fine for these surgeries to be performed by dentists. That was not the issue. I believe the issue was that the babies in this video didn't actually need surgeries. Yes, some dentists may not do the surgery properly, but that does not mean dentists shouldn't, that means those dentists in particular should not be doing them.
Ent with scissors. No bleeding, 60 second cry, suddenly could eat.
A tongue tie is necessary for proper jaw formation. Many children may need a second one. This is a very important surgery for those who need it, so PLEASE don't let this scare you. Research, get a second, even third opinion, and find someone reputable if you do decide on the procedure.
Wrong. Natural is best. Eventually you will find someone who wants to make money
@@amethystflower8799 I'm with you on this
@@amethystflower8799source: “trust me bro”
You’re saying that having the medical anomaly of a tongue is required for the jaw to grow properly on a human face? Huh?
I have a tongue tie-- Both of my boys 3 and 1 years old both have a tongue tie and never had any issues with breastfeeding none of my children and still at it breastfeeding fully for like the last 3 years straight!! My husband and I was told our boys would have problems too with there tongue tie and tried to convience us to get this procedure we declined it and i and just fine!!
This sounds just like a very unfortunate experience. Both my babies were born with tongue and lip ties. One was treated by an ent at just a few days old and it changed our breastfeeding journey immediately for the better.
My son was born with it but drs weren’t overly concerned, but by age 5 the dentist was the one who suggested going ahead and treating to prevent further speech, hygiene and other issues in the future. It was again, a great process. And he has benefited immensely.
I think everyone needs to do their own doctor research as well as weighing the benefits to them, their child and their situations, but you can’t shame a whole legitimate medical problem because of one bad outcome.
Your children should have had the choice
@@amethystflower8799bruh you keep popping up in all these people’s comments shaming them for choosing a procedure that allowed their children to speak clearly
Wait, having a tongue tie is a problem? I thought everyone had that, my tongue does.
Use some common sense. Everybody does have it. But some have it where it’s too large and an issue.
No, not everyone
@@GG-kn2sehow is this the case of common sense? I’m genuinely ruinous to know your explanation
@@jonirwin7316everyone does. Anatomy book.
@@GG-kn2seNot "common sense" because not everyone has it lmfao?
im 45 and i still have mine, was not nessesary, i seen a speech therapist and never
knew i was tounque tied.
You did have an issue.. Or wouldn't have seen a speech therapist.
@@mindymorgan8479 , 💯
But his speech was corrected without treatment, just like every thing it depends on the person I believe,
I'm 41, and I'm tongue-tied. I've never had any speech issues.
some information I feel was left out if reporting about the dangers of doing unnecessary tongue tie surgery .. like why after having the tongue tie surgery the infant couldn't have solid foods, what went wrong with the surgery to cause that? and was the surgery recommended for a latching issue cause she was already breastfeeding strictly for 3 weeks and so after the surgery the infant all of sudden can only take a bottle? i was concerned my son had a tongue tie issue but all it took was some time and he got better at latching
Yeah something is missing. Cause tongue tie shouldn’t cause feeding issues
Yes, it does feel like either the doctor didn't make the procedure correctly and did some damage, or the baby has other issues as well.
It sounds to me like maybe it would due to pain from the surgery leaving her with trauma so she's anxious and distrustful with things around her mouth. Someone else in the comments said that you have to stretch the tongue four times a day after the procedure to keep it from re-fusing and it's painful for the baby, so it's not surprising really.
@Potatoe-f6u Babies don't get such lasting traumas, they usually forget and go over it with time. For her, not to be eating any solids at age over 1 year, it really points at something else. As if she still experiences pain or some sensory issue (which might be unrelated). Something was left out and not explained here.
Yeah these videos tend to just be for entertainment purposes and kinda suck
I still have my tongue tie. Didn't have any issues being breastfed as a baby, and never had issues eating or speaking later on (just a slight lisp which I managed to reduce with speech therapy). The only thing you really need to look out for is that the child is able to put their tongue to the roof of their mouth. I am able to do this except for the very tip of my tongue, but I only corrected my tongue posture and swallowing practices later on in life, when I got speech therapy. By that time, my upper jaw had already grown to be narrow, and the tongue tie was also linked to my tongue thrusting habits, which caused an open bite. I plan to correct these things by getting braces next year, but it will never be perfect because my upper jaw has already fused.
In short, a tongue tie doesn't always need treatment, especially if it's only holding back the very tip of the tongue (look up anterior vs. posterior tongue tie). BUT it is crucial to make sure the child is able to keep up correct tongue posture and swallowing habits in order to prevent dental issues later down the line.
This is very true. As an orthodontic assistant I know how crucial tongue placement is on the formation of the upper jaw during the early developing years. That’s why “mewing” has become a big thing in the last 5-6 years. I hope more people see your comment! It’s very valuable information. 😊
Sounds like you had alot of unnecessary problem that would have been fix clipping the tie
@@KIMjB72 I only found out about it when I was already older, and my speech therapist adviced against it because I would have had to learn how to talk and swallow in a new way.
It was more so a mistake on my parents' part to not pay attention to my tongue posture and swallowing habits, as I am perfectly capable of placing my tongue correctly and swallowing correctly, with just a little more effort than others. They just never taught me about it, and my tongue tie contributed to problems that didn't have to be problems in the first place. Then again, they simply didn't have the knowledge.
In short, knowledge is key. Every kid, tongue tie or not, needs to learn about correct tongue posture and swallowing. Kids with tongue ties may need a little extra help. When the tongue tie is so severe that they physically cannot do it, you snip.
@@Iroh12345 😂😂😂 now it's your parents fault but you we in a long SSA 3 paragraphs to simply say my life would have been better if I got a tongue tie fixed just look at all the money I'm still spending to try and fix the issue.
@@KIMjB72 I'm not spending money darling, it's called universal healthcare.
This was hard to watch. I could not imagine how much that surgery must hurt and the loss of trust these babies must have. You can see how traumatic this has been on the families. I hope they get the help they need.
No one bullied these moms to get it done. It was their decision at the end of the day. I hate it when ppl blame all their problems on someone else. Do your research, talk to multiple professionals. The LC didn’t force them to get their babies to do the procedure. If they were uncomfortable with the LC, then switch
I'm glad someone said it because it was ridiculous to watch someone cry over something they willingly subjected their child to. Why on earth would your doctor not be your first point of call? The minute they felt they were 'bullied,' they could've walked out with their child and never gone back again. What was she gonna do, come to your home and forcibly perform the surgery? You shouldn't be letting anyone bully you into anything but especially not when it comes to a child's health and wellbeing.
@@lindasamba4816 100% and this woman did her job!! Then they all bullied her until she was forced out of business over what doctors did and parents agreed to over a consultation!
@@candicestephens415literally I’m dumbfounded watching this
@@lindasamba4816literally!!
Exactly. I have to absolutely fight every doctor to get my kids ties released. Then go to a city three hours away to find one to do it.
Ouch!!! I never even heard of this before
I haven't either. It sounds crazy.
Same
Just had my 6 week old son's tong tie released with the laser. Highly recommend, no issues. Get a good dentist.
Your son sure doesn't recommend it. You made the wrong choice
I was told both my babies needed tongue tie surgery even though both were breastfeeding well. I was told they would have speech issues. Luckily we had one doctor who told us it wasn’t necessary and there could be complications. But there was one doctor who really pressured me to do it and I don’t do it and it made him mad! They both have no speech issues and I’m thankful to that doctor who told me the truth.
My son was tounge tied. He breastfed immediately after birth. Nursed him for 9 months no problems he went straight to a sippie cup. His speech was normal but he chose to have the surgery as an adult because it wss aggravating him. He said the surgery was a tough and painful recovery but hes doing fine.
So basically he could’ve just had it done as an infant and it would’ve been better overall?
My sister wasn’t operated on and she’s had nothing but trouble her whole life
What kind of trouble
I had mine clipped in 8th grade. The healing process was so painful. I would totally recommend doing it as a baby if it is needed
So baby's can go through pain and trauma?
If you don’t get your child breast feeding oral therapy to strengthen the tongue before and after the release, they will definitely have a hard time feeding. The babies will have more range of motion but no way of controlling or utilizing their “new” tongue. And I’m not hearing anything about that from these two women.
Don’t let dentists do this to your child. Have the surgery in a pediatric hospital with appropriate surgeon.
I feel like this is something that pediatricians should look for in the hospital when the baby is born. My son was fully tongue tied, but we didn’t know it right away. He was struggling to latch on and he was losing weight. We were still in the hospital and I noticed when he was crying that he was tongue tied. I mentioned it to the pediatrician, she confirmed, and clipped it when she did his circumcision. He started latching much better right away.
I had this and could hardly stick my tongue out. I chopped it off myself when I was about 20😂 I'm 40 now and that decision has served me very well 😂😛
Bro is it really better? I’m 36 and thinking about getting it done.
@@ELITEmyfrat Aye mate😂 Your wife will be forever grateful 😂
@@hoggybhoy1967ain’t no way you just said that 💀
Yuuup! 😂
I'm glad it worked out, but people reading this, please don't do this yourself! This is a procedure for a professional to perform. There is too much at stake to take a risk like that. You risk infection, excessive bleeding, damaging salivary glands, etc.
My baby was having problems lactating and at 3 months he had a tongue tie surgery and I cannot be happier he is doing great after that and his demeanor and his eating habits and overall expression changed after that for the better. One of the signs is the baby's tongue will be heart-shaped when he cries and the lactation will be very painful. It all goes away after the baby is surgically treated
EVERYONE has this, otherwise you couldn't control your tongue, but being labeled tongue-tied the attachment is closer to the teeth and shorter, greatly limiting movement of the tongue.
I suffered from this since birth (not knowing what it was), then in my twenties a dentist informed me & then performed this procedure while I was also getting some extensive dental work done. I'm so thankful because it helped me drastically......beforehand I had speech impediments, a high risk of choking, & as a wind instruments musician, I had restricted embouchure that limited my success. While I didn't feel the procedure bc my mouth was numb in preparation for the dental work, the recovery & healing of it was very, very painful & seemed to take forever.
I was born tongue tied, no one realized until I almost starved to death. 15 years later, my parents say I haven’t stopped talking since.
Apparently I have a tongue tie, but at 36 I never had an issue, in fact public speaking is part of my job.
Interesting, did you have speech therapy growing up?
I was really close to having my daughter’s tongue tie removed because we were having difficulty getting her to nurse but I did my research and I’m so glad I did. Turns out the problem was colic, not her tongue tie. It’s such an overly diagnosed thing.
I wish we hadn’t done it, made no difference and caused the baby trauma.
So sorry about your baby 😢
I'm so sorry for you and your baby
Exactly
How would you know that it wouldn’t have made a difference with their speech development literally 8 years later
My son had a small one he still have one he said it doesn’t bother him he doesn’t have a lisp or speech issue. He is highly intelligent and speak extremely well for a 9 year old.
Was he Brest nursed or bottle ? My daughter also recommended by docs
People have been feeding their babies for billions of years. Why do you have to do this now? if it was a big problem, don’t you think humans were being born without it?
Look I’m currently 20 yrs old with tongue tie, I’m alive but the tongue tie is so annoying either problems with speech like slow talker or maybe slow eater but mostly it annoys me just cuz that string exists and I can feel it in my mouth so tbh I’ll suggest any parents that got their infant or child with tongue tie, just do it for them as long as the doctor knows what he’s doing
'Baby would rather die than eat', looks like baby never wants to trust mum ever again
Or had a sore mouth? What a weird comment for no reason.
Bro. I can’t with the lactation consultants that’s make you feel like a failure and make you feel like you’re talkin to a car salesman.
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I am a speech language pathologist. Ankyloglossia (tongue tie) does, and can, negatively impact feeding and speech. So if the case is severe enough, parents should seek out a doctor to assess and perform the procedure (I wouldn’t use a dentist). If they decide against it, no amount of therapy is going to overcome what is structural: limited tongue mobility due to the shortened frenum. It is worth it when done by the right expert.
How do you look for “the right expert”? This comment is a 6/10, 7/10 at best
I have so many questions
1. Why werent they in the room
2. If the baby was already breastfeeding, then why do the procedure?
3. Why was the baby awake?!?
2. Because it can cause other problems like jaw development issues or speech issues
They tried to say my baby was a good candidate for this surgery 2 days after but I refused and she’s now healthy and good. She breastfed fine after coming home from hospital.
She’s crying and blaming someone else. You handed over your baby to have this done. You agreed. They wouldn’t have done it if you didn’t agree.
Csue they were bullied in to it! Or did you not pay attention?
@@nancyfarkas3592 Haha, nobody bullied them nobody forced them. They were told it was a good idea and without research just took one ladies opinion. That is totally the mom’s choice. Nobody took her baby away from her and did it without her permission. Nobody said they would take her baby away nobody said they would call the cops if she didn’t do it. Good try though.
@@nancyfarkas3592grown women bullied into taking a decision without medical consultation lol right?!! Where was their common sense
@@nancyfarkas3592Bullied, please, a grown adult bullied over a procedure for their child, shouldn’t have children then
And what is supposed to wrong with this child now, not making any sense
In my area, they wont do surgery unless its really severe. My husband had it done when he was little because he legitimately couldnt move his tongue. Our youngest is moderately tongue tied and has been doing speech therapy for the last couple of years. They wont give him surgery, which im fine with. Hes already had his first surgery at 4 for clogged tear ducts.
This is misleading information. Releasing a tongue tie is 100% beneficial. But you have to do your research and make sure whomever is doing it, is doing so the right way. Plus aftercare is really important. Parents can't get pissy if they didn't do their research. That's on them.
100 percent unnecessary is more like it
@amethystflower8799 Uhhhh ok 😅😅😅
I’m so happy me and my ex always waited for any surgery and we voiced this with the kids’ pediatrician. They were older when we tried everything else first.
My youngest son had tongue tie and upper lip tie. Doctors said the procedure would help him latch because he wasn't latching well. He never did latch after the procedure. I ended up having a love/hate relationship with my pump and got pretty depressed that he couldn't bond like I was hoping. Also had to stop pumping after 6 months because my breast got infected with inner ductal yeast. Very painful time. I luckily already had over 7,000 oz stashed in my freezer and it lasted until he was about 11 months old. His first year was very tough for me but he's growing up and doing well. Stay blessed and keep the faith 💜💫🙏
The American medical system never ceases to amaze me. THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR A TOUNGE TIE RELEASE!!! It is done for free in most African hospitals. It literally takes 1 minute and you don't need a lazer! WAH!
Let’s sound the alarm about the unnecessary procedure of CIRCUMCISION. I don’t hear people talking about the screams from their baby and “smell of burnt flesh” with a 100% aesthetic procedure.
I was born this way, had the surgery when I was 5 yeard old. I had horrible speech. The surgery was necessary.
Nobody talking about the $1000 price tag?
wtf,seriously? for that little done? hell nah,for that much cash I'd rather do it myself.
Seriously, it’s one snip. Free.99 sounds a lot more appealing.
Welcome to America
@@missfortune8553I would just do it myself to be honest🤷♀️
Insurance covers it relax
Add the $20k hospital birth to that too
My husband had this surgery. He is so grateful for his Mom who had took him as a young boy to see a good dr. to fix his tongue tie. As a boy he had an issue with his tongue tie and he would stutter. Today he has no issues.
Had twins. One was flourishing, the other was not and was clicking when trying to latch. Had a tongue-tie release surgery (phrenuloplasty), and immediately after the surgery, he latched on with no clicks. He had a strong suction and began to flourish.
So, new mommas, don't be afraid.
My brother's child health nurse noticed he was tongue and just quickly flicked the tongue tie with her finger nail, releasing it. It wasn't viewed as a complex procedure requiring referral. That was back in the early 1970's in Australia.
My oldest son who is turning 41 next month had this. I took him to the dr and all they did was clip it. He was about two months old. He was asleep by the time we walked out. I don’t think he even cried. It wasn’t a big deal then
My daughter had a lip and tongue tie and breastfeeding was very painful and she struggled to suck naturally. Getting her the surgery at 6 months helped her so much and now she talks and chews her food amazingly.
Why would the baby scream?didn’t they have anesthesia?😮
i mean.... do you give a baby that young anesthesia?
@@thea_therian Babies that young still feel pain, thats why doctors don’t operate in real surgeries without anesthesia anymore. It used to be a huge misconception that they didnt
@@thea_therianI believe a tiny dose may be necessary?…
There was a time that ppl thought babies couldn’t feel pain and would do surgery on them. Wild
@@totallytherealsky536huh? Misconception about baby don’t feel pain? Where did you get that from?
There's more than meets the eye of this report.. alot more I hope all is well
I’ve still got mine and I all I can say is
Peter piper picked a purple pepper perfectly without a prickly prickle present 😂😂
Wait my tongue is attached like that 😮
Lol same I had to check
me too
Same
It’s when it’s attached like that and you can’t lift it…. It impairs speech, and apparently breast feeding.
I think it’s a problem when the ‘cord’ is too short and the tongue can’t reach the roof of the mouth when the jaw is open. I’ve actually torn mine slightly in the past, dunno how but some small tears appeared on the cord. Maybe I overstretched mine 😅
Just because you got talked into doing something does not mean anyone pressured you. That just means that you don't know how to do your own research or stand up to someone who has an idea.
I have two children who were born with this condition. My first baby had his taken care of at the hospital after we failed to get him latched onto me, He was miserable and I was miserable. My second child also had it when born. We were unable to pay for this procedure and tried our best to accommodate her while growing up with a tongue tie. She had issues with chewing food, Cleaning food out of her teeth, foul breath and then later in life it started causing her pain. She had it clipped when she was 14 years old and everything has been so much better for her. My best advice is to go with your gut and try not to blame others for the choices you make.
Had my tongue tie "released" when I was old enough to remember, maybe 4 to 5? Im guessing when I started to talk it was the cause of a speech impediment.
Oh what would we do without Lisa Guirrero?!?!!?! She's a prophet!! WHO ADORES HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE HER!!! WE SHOULD ALL STRIVE TO BE LIKE LISA!!!
My nephew had tongue tie when he was a baby. He had surgery because he can’t eat breastfeeding. My sister noticed he lost weight and tried get him feeding but not successfully… Have no choice to surgery
excuse me im not a doctor but arent those tongue ties especially there to avoid them falling back and choke on their tongue? i still have mine. its not an issue.
Please go to your general dentist for these needs as they work with tongue ties or can refer you to someone that can.general dentists, pediatric dentists, and ENTs all work in this area and oral surgeons do not. It is fairly simplistic procedure with the proper training and please do not go to unqualified and unlicensed individuals ( IE : lactation specialist aka no degree, no formal training). Very bizarre story.
I was born tongue-tied and my mother took me to the doctor at 6 weeks, he snipped, and I've been impossible to shut up ever since. Now it's a $1,000 "procedure" that is "controversial"? WTH?
My son was born with a tongue tie and the doctors pressured us and pressured us to schedule a time to have it surgically removed. My MIL also pressured us as she had one and says if we don’t remove it my son will talk funny, with a slur… I asked so many questions and ultimately refused it. It just didn’t seem right? My son is 2.5 now and speaks very well for his age!! ❤
I’ve never heard of this procedure until now.
I was born with a tongue-tie and I didn't even realize it wasn't normal until I was an adult (I just thought other kids had weirdly long tongues when they'd stick them out, compared to mine). Since it didn't cause a speech impediment or other issues, I've never had mine released (in fact, when I asked about it, I was advised against it since it could introduce a speed impediment where I didn't have one). My maternal grandfather also had one that he'd never had released, and he was fluent in 5 languages with no speech impediments.
As an infant I was bottle-fed (it was the 70s and I was primarily raised by my grandmother), so at least that was never an issue for me.
Wouldn't it be considered unethical if you don't somewhat sedate them?
This is a bit dramatic. Both my kids have had their tongue tie released. The procedure is like 5 seconds. Sure its not gunna feel amazing, but its not some deep huge procedure
My daughter had problems breastfeeding. The hospital never identified a tongue tie or lip tie. A lactation consultant came after we went home and referred us to a dentist who specialized in the procedure and they diagnosed it. They said it would help with breastfeeding. She could still not breastfeed after the procedure even with a nipple shield and trying an SNS. At that point she had already taken a bottle so it was a challenge to breastfeed. She had a speech delay even after the repair. In the big scheme of things I do wonder if she could have gone without it, but I would have always wondered if repairing it would have helped with breastfeeding so I guess it was the best decision at the time.
Did you hear where their baby lost the ability to nurse at all
@@Ayverie4 but if there is a tie. How would u know if it's the issue or not. Needs to b ruled out
It sucked for your kids
My son was born with a tongue tie. I exclusively breast fed my daughter until she was almost 3 but I didn’t car as much about breastfeeding my son. Although I was wanting to establish the best latch for my son before day two of life. I didn’t care how he got his nourishment. I just pumped and gave him what needed. I happy as long as he was fed. The surgery was not an option in my opinion so as he developed his speech I helped him practice his speech and gave him exercises he could do with his tongue. I even taught him sign language to help him communicate with us. He’s about to be three in November and is thriving with speech and eating everything he can get his hands on.
Also make sure it’s a tongue tie before having the surgery.
I get tongue-tied sometimes, but not in this sense.
I have seen those surgical procedures in school. Some people become overeaters later in life, and turn to tongue piercing to help curb mouth pain. Don't do it to your baby if they won't nurse. A bottle fed baby will feel just as loved by their moms, dads babysitters grandparents, as regular nursing does.
It sounds like something went wrong. Both my kids had tongue tie surgery and I was sitting right there. It took 10 seconds and I never smelled burnt flesh wtf???? 😢
Thank you for reporting on this.
My son was born tongue tied, I considered getting the procedure done. My 15 year old cousin stepped forward & asked me to not have it done ,because it left him with a speech impediment. Thank God I just pushed forward and fed him every hour until his tongue had stretched well enough to nurse. I latter had two more sons one with one with out . 6 grandchildren zero have the problem. I had a speech therapist work with my 2 for a year each & both spoke with out any problems before age 3 .
At what age did your 15 year old cousin get the procedure done?
I was born tongue-tied myself, but luckily it was so minor my only "problem" was that I couldn’t stick my tongue out as far as everyone else, my speech and eating was luckily unaffected. My mom was asked whether or not I should get surgery for it and she said no due to how minor it was, and so it persists to this day as a benign quirk of mine.
My son had his tongue tie fixed with a laser at 1, and it significantly helped him. His speech improved, and he screamed much less, he ate better, and his motor control improved. Tongue ties can affect children in many different ways! I am so thankful we had it done!
My brother and I r both tongue tied.
My brother's was little worse.
He didn't get the surgery until he was in his early teens.
His speech improved.
I never got the surgery though.
Being tongue tied, missing a tooth towards the front (born without it, didn't exist as a baby or adult tooth) so I have gapping causing a lisp, being dyslexic and suffering from anxiety disorders (both weren't diagnosed till I was older) I had to take special speech and reading classes through our elementary school.
Honestly I really wish I had gotten the surgery.
Also wishing they had fixed my missing tooth issue much sooner too.
It would have helped me out so much more.
Ofc the doctor closed her place and didn’t want to give a word. TYPICAL.
My child spent 33 days in the NICU because he would suck so hard that he’d stop breathing and his oxygen levels would plummet dangerously. He was barely eating because he’d get so exhausted while eating or would cry as if it hurt to suck on the bottle. Had the lactation consultant working with me but my boy was not going to be able to nurse.
We were able to bring him home when the hospital was sure we knew how to feed him while being able to properly handle things if he had another breathing episode. He was home for less than 2 days when I saw the tongue tie. NO ONE at the hospital caught it, not even the lactation consultant who had put her fingers in his mouth to feel around multiple times. Just kept blaming his issue on him being almost a month premature. They had blinders on and my poor baby along with his dad and I went through hell because of it. Had the surgery and he never had another feeding/breathing episode again.
Some babies need the surgery
My nephew had this proceedure when he was a baby. My nephew wasnt able to nurse correctly due to a tongue tie and my sister had no idea. She was so upset and blamed herself for starving him and not knowing. But she got this recommendation from her PEDIATRICIAN and only AFTER there was a known issue. Never go for a surgery on a baby unless absolutely necessary
Never heard before that a dentist does this type of surgery.
I am a mother and this is hard for me to watch listening to the kids scream like that
I’m a grandma and I felt sick..
I knew after I had my son that something was wrong with our breastfeeding journey. It hurt so bad every time. At 5 weeks, we went to the ENT and he got his tongue clipped. Instant relief. He’s 5 now and still struggles with choking on water. Hoping he’ll grow out of it.
My daughter's pediatrician said he believed she had a slight tongue tie, but, in his opinion, he did not think would impact her feeding abilities but offered to refer us to a specialist if we wanted another opinion. I remember him saying children have been living with tougue ties for years, but he felt surgery has been overused now. My husband and I decided against it, and she thriving. Happy we didn't put her through that!
My cousins doctor used his fingernail in his office when she was 4. No extra charge, just a routine health check. This was back in the 60's. She had to go to therapy to correct her speech impediment because it wasn't done before she learned to talk. Normally they would do this as an infant.
Medical field is a nightmare in The US.
Why wouldn’t they get another drs input ? I thought everybody knw lactation consultants aren’t drs, they do not have MD in their name..