All 3 styles are great! Honestly, I'd love to see a competition style that - 1. 3 minute period folkstyle 2. 3 minute period freestyle 3. 3 minute period Greco. If we need an overtime, sudden death till an Ippon!
And if you know BOTH amateur wrestling(especially freestyle) and bjj you would be more prepared for catch wrestling(where you could win either by pin or submissions). I do know that Snake Pit Wigan have competitors from bjj at their contests(Some of whom MAY NOT have amateur wrestling training). While Snake Pit USA DOESN'T like bjj competitors WITH NO amateur wrestling experience at their contests. That why they banned Quentin Rosenzweig. Although Quentin did train in catch with Johnny Buck(a student of Billy Wicks). But yeah Snake Pit USA was PETTY. And the founder of Snake Pit USA have A NASTY TEMPER AND ABUSED A AIRPLANE EMPLOYEE.
But they did invite Jasmine Rocha to Snake Pit USA competition. Not a lot of people knows this but she also was a high school wrestler. But her father and POSSIBLY her brother have a BAD REPUTATION on insulting other bjj competitors.
Im Brazilian so wrestling is kinda hard to find in my country since everyone(including me lol) practiced BJJ for their grappling style but even then recently wrestling has been becoming popular and I’ve been trying to learn more wrestling explosion and control moves to complement my striking, the fact a sambo gym opened up in my city also has helped me with that. For striking I practice Muay Thai, karate and boxing btw.
@@josuerodriguez12b Judo is also something I like, it was my first martial art and I started it at age 4, it's relatively easy to find in my country as well, but I think wrestling is more fast-paced and explosive which is something I lack in my grappling and wish to work on that, judo and BJJ have submission techniques while wrestling is much more focused on positional control and superiority the exception being catch wrestling and Folk styles, I have focused much more in striking throughout my life so my grappling, in general, is a bit lacking in comparison.
@@eduardoramirez4768 I am not really familiar with that, I think that’s a more general term for a vale tudo match which is kinda like mma, or if there’s catch wrestling in that context here it’s probably going to be in northern and northeastern regions of my country where I don’t live in so I wouldn’t have seen it or heard of it if it’s there
Freestyle wrestling for flexibility, grips and push-out rule. Folkstyle wrestling for mat work and mat rules. Sambo wrestling for trips and submissions. Greco-roman wrestling for conditioning and strength training.
Thanks for the breakdown - got into wrestling during the pandemic like 3 years ago - but mostly just collegiate wrestling....there is a lot to learn about this sport!
Wonderful content...❤ As an Iranian who grew up in a wrestling environment, I always wanted to know what is the difference between the folk style and Olympics, Very well explained, I appreciate it
I was really enjoying the content until @14:19 I saw bro was getting his hair trimmed in the background, and I was like WTF😂 I burst into laughter and made me subscribe to the channel 😂😂😂
I became interested in wrestling being an mma and bjj fan/practitioner. I have to say, folkstyle is so much better, both in concept and to watch. Great video!
In greco roman there us very low tolerance on passivity,so you need to push harder then opponent in order to convince judge. Also, when you take opponents back, he's gonna lay down instantly because of suplex danger.
Lol when I was in high school I was a mat judge fill in during seventh and eighth-grade matches and the elementary school... I always liked helping and teaching and coaching wrestling almost as much as competing same with boxing I was a Golden glove champion in Philadelphia 2001 I had the privilege to train with tiger and Rock Allen their father brother Naseem Richardson long time trainer work with Bernard Hopkins for long time he also did work with Shane Mosley my father is from East falls right next to Germantown in Philadelphia where they were from I always loved coaching maybe because I'm the oldest of 4 brothers and my first cousins live next door and there's five of them all of us are boys and I'm the second oldest grandchild so without a father figure i try to fill that role as best as I could..now as a father my biggest joy in life is helping the youth build confidence integrity hard work and kindness
It would he interesting to see a style of wrestling that is like folkstyle with the ground positions but allows all the throws that greco and freestyle have.
I wrestled in high school, and as I've come to understand the other styles, folkstyle seems like a different version of freestyle that's more friendly and "fair" for minors. Like with cacc, it's another version of freestyle that just allows for submissions. Just my take on it.
Folk style to me because you get rewarded for holding your opponent down wrestling or you get rewarded to get up wrestling gives you control if you get on top and gives you options getting up not just a stand-up and sit out but a switch boot scoot I never wrestled freestyle or Greco but I do like the concept of Greco
Hi Peter, love the content. I've been practicing brazilian jiu jitsu for ~5 years and would like to incorporate more wrestling/standing grappling into my training, do you have any recommendations near San Jose (Bay area)? Keep posting, always appreciate the detail and insight.
Daniel cormier has a wrestling gym in Gilroy. A little drive but I think it would be worth it. Garth Taylor in Santa Cruz is ex high school wrestling coach.
I'd love to hear what you think about this style of wrestling: Chen Style pushing hands ua-cam.com/video/Os-fh6M-lXs/v-deo.html The goal is to take the opponent down or pushing him out of the circle and you have to stay on your feet whatever happens. It's a little bit like Sumo.
I'm confused on folk style bc I've seen girls wrap the head and dig the girls head into the mat and not get called. Heck one girl at state literally grabbed the head and kept slamming the girls head and there was no consequences.
It's funny that you say that I wrestled with Kyle Dake in high school 4 years 5 years of tournaments against his team. He didn't start doing this stuff into a college. I promise you.
For,me as a former wrestler and coach folk style is more familiar and has the the thing that makes American wrestlers have the style of hard hand fight lots of snaps but not very good at partare in freestyle I am in favor of some kind of adoption if a push out or fleeing the mat penalty or scoring for high school its hard to define criteria in college,it becomes a judgement call and not allways a common sense call but I still favor it to high school just walk out when your underhooked or any other tie up your not comfortable with anyway thats my 2 ¢ I prefer folk style for the athleticism,and,strength endurance grind weight cuts makes the USA the hard nosed determaned bad ass humble bunch we have on our national team all stems from folk style
Get Joe Hendry and he will explain the difference between freestyle, Greco roman , and catch wrestling. Yes he is a pro wrestler but he was trained by Marty Jones and Johnny Saint( disciples of billy Robinson pro and CATCH wrestler). He can also explain judo.
They didn't. Both Freestyle and Folkstyle come directly from the same parent style: Catch wrestling. When Olympic movement banned submissions from (Catch) wrestling in 1920s, both sides of Atlantic started independently establishing formal rulesets for what was known at the time as "Amateur Catch wrestling". The goal was to make it more safe and youth friendly, in accordance to the Olympic ideal. Both sides created different governing bodies for their wrestling organizations, but ultimately it was the European hegemony which took over internationally. Notice: this was during 1920s where Europe was still the world leading power, and U.S was still engaging more or less in isolationism. By the time U.S became an active superpower in 1950s, Freestyle had already firmly established itself at the Olympics. In fact, the early iterations of Freestyle and Folkstyle were very similar to each other, as both tried to mimic the essense of their parent: Catch . However, that was 100 years ago. Since then, both wrestling styles have undergone multiple rounds of changes in rulesets for various reasons. These days they appear to be more far apart, so it's more difficult to see the common origin.
@@kallepikku4991 Yeah as the US was MORE ISOLATED their "amateur catch wrestling" was more OLD FASHIONED. Old fashioned as in the sense of NO SUPLEX. After all suplex came originally from greco roman wrestling. But thank to the influence of Georg Hakensmidt(sp?) and Karl Gotch it later went into freestyle and pro wrestling. Unfornately while the suplex did go into pro wrestling it didn't went into what is now known as folkstyle wrestling. At least here in the US.
All 3 styles are great!
Honestly, I'd love to see a competition style that -
1. 3 minute period folkstyle
2. 3 minute period freestyle
3. 3 minute period Greco.
If we need an overtime, sudden death till an Ippon!
Cool idea but that’s a lot of time on the mat
Lol overtime is BJJ
@mylesparrish2591 could be more 1.5 mins each or 2 mins each
Gotta love how at 14:20 you are able to see the barber shop setup of your gym
In a my opinion everyone in combat sports should learn how to wrestle for control and learn bjj to finish.
I totally agree! I’m a blue belt and I love wrestling. With the exception of a few other guys at our gym, most think I’m full of shit.
@@Stevie_tha_tooth just use wrestling 101: Don’t let up until you hear cartilage snap, or they crap in their pants.
They’ll learn.
And if you know BOTH amateur wrestling(especially freestyle) and bjj you would be more prepared for catch wrestling(where you could win either by pin or submissions). I do know that Snake Pit Wigan have competitors from bjj at their contests(Some of whom MAY NOT have amateur wrestling training). While Snake Pit USA DOESN'T like bjj competitors WITH NO amateur wrestling experience at their contests. That why they banned Quentin Rosenzweig. Although Quentin did train in catch with Johnny Buck(a student of Billy Wicks). But yeah Snake Pit USA was PETTY. And the founder of Snake Pit USA have A NASTY TEMPER AND ABUSED A AIRPLANE EMPLOYEE.
But they did invite Jasmine Rocha to Snake Pit USA competition. Not a lot of people knows this but she also was a high school wrestler. But her father and POSSIBLY her brother have a BAD REPUTATION on insulting other bjj competitors.
@@carpenter155 or Just do catch wrestling
I found this very interesting. We don't really wrestle here in Ireland, so it was all new fascinating.
Im Brazilian so wrestling is kinda hard to find in my country since everyone(including me lol) practiced BJJ for their grappling style but even then recently wrestling has been becoming popular and I’ve been trying to learn more wrestling explosion and control moves to complement my striking, the fact a sambo gym opened up in my city also has helped me with that.
For striking I practice Muay Thai, karate and boxing btw.
I prefer judo but wrestling is great
@@josuerodriguez12b Judo is also something I like, it was my first martial art and I started it at age 4, it's relatively easy to find in my country as well, but I think wrestling is more fast-paced and explosive which is something I lack in my grappling and wish to work on that, judo and BJJ have submission techniques while wrestling is much more focused on positional control and superiority the exception being catch wrestling and Folk styles, I have focused much more in striking throughout my life so my grappling, in general, is a bit lacking in comparison.
Pro brasileiro o jeito é treinar muito Judô
Isn't there luta livre which is basically Brazilian catch wrestling
@@eduardoramirez4768 I am not really familiar with that, I think that’s a more general term for a vale tudo match which is kinda like mma, or if there’s catch wrestling in that context here it’s probably going to be in northern and northeastern regions of my country where I don’t live in so I wouldn’t have seen it or heard of it if it’s there
Freestyle wrestling for flexibility, grips and push-out rule.
Folkstyle wrestling for mat work and mat rules.
Sambo wrestling for trips and submissions.
Greco-roman wrestling for conditioning and strength training.
Luta Livre is also a viable solution as it still has a heavy wrestling foundation
Greco for slam KOs
Judo for a great deal of what you said in Greco-Roman wrestling and Sambo.
Catch wrestling also have trips and takedown. In fact sambo was partly influenced by catch wrestling.
@@tichtran664 CW looks so cool, can't wait to be able to train
Thanks for the breakdown - got into wrestling during the pandemic like 3 years ago - but mostly just collegiate wrestling....there is a lot to learn about this sport!
Wonderful content...❤
As an Iranian who grew up in a wrestling environment, I always wanted to know what is the difference between the folk style and Olympics, Very well explained, I appreciate it
Finalmente alguém explicando de forma detalhada, obrigado!
Explained like a champ!
Nice job! Great explanations and great job by the guys!
I was really enjoying the content until @14:19 I saw bro was getting his hair trimmed in the background, and I was like WTF😂 I burst into laughter and made me subscribe to the channel 😂😂😂
I became interested in wrestling being an mma and bjj fan/practitioner. I have to say, folkstyle is so much better, both in concept and to watch. Great video!
Great job on this video Coach, since some of us don't have a wrestling background.
In greco roman there us very low tolerance on passivity,so you need to push harder then opponent in order to convince judge.
Also, when you take opponents back, he's gonna lay down instantly because of suplex danger.
Lol when I was in high school I was a mat judge fill in during seventh and eighth-grade matches and the elementary school... I always liked helping and teaching and coaching wrestling almost as much as competing same with boxing I was a Golden glove champion in Philadelphia 2001 I had the privilege to train with tiger and Rock Allen their father brother Naseem Richardson long time trainer work with Bernard Hopkins for long time he also did work with Shane Mosley my father is from East falls right next to Germantown in Philadelphia where they were from I always loved coaching maybe because I'm the oldest of 4 brothers and my first cousins live next door and there's five of them all of us are boys and I'm the second oldest grandchild so without a father figure i try to fill that role as best as I could..now as a father my biggest joy in life is helping the youth build confidence integrity hard work and kindness
Awesome video and good vibes!
The little sumo match at the end was fantastic! 😂
Great video thanks for the info!
Can't help but mention the "barber" and the dude getting a haircut in the back 🤣🤣
Wow I needed that one badly, :-) thank you for the clarity !
Awesome breakdowns and summaries. Keep up the great videos. Always interesting and informative to watch. Cheers!
Great breakdown.
Thanks for the this - watching my guy DeShazer 🇺🇸 represent this week!!!
It would he interesting to see a style of wrestling that is like folkstyle with the ground positions but allows all the throws that greco and freestyle have.
Could you do a video on the submissions possible in all three styles if we
Wrestling? This video was awesome and super helpful!😢
Great explanation. Thanks.
great stuff, nice gym and setup.
Good job - -thanks - for explaining
I’ve done both Folkstyle and freestyle. The biggest thing I noticed is that freestyle has folkstyle moves but they’re more extreme.
I wrestled in high school, and as I've come to understand the other styles, folkstyle seems like a different version of freestyle that's more friendly and "fair" for minors. Like with cacc, it's another version of freestyle that just allows for submissions. Just my take on it.
@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 so like I mentioned I’m not wrong
@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 I did Wrestling in highschool for both Folkstyle and freestyle
Excellent. Thanks.
Folk style to me because you get rewarded for holding your opponent down wrestling or you get rewarded to get up wrestling gives you control if you get on top and gives you options getting up not just a stand-up and sit out but a switch boot scoot I never wrestled freestyle or Greco but I do like the concept of Greco
great information!
Appreciate the breakdown 👍
Great video, what is the historical reason for not allowing locked hands on the ground or suplexes standing?
Imo Greco Roman wrestling compliments judo nicely but cannot be said for the other way around but it is def a combination you should try
The camera man is on point.
Nice
Hi Peter, love the content. I've been practicing brazilian jiu jitsu for ~5 years and would like to incorporate more wrestling/standing grappling into my training, do you have any recommendations near San Jose (Bay area)? Keep posting, always appreciate the detail and insight.
Daniel cormier has a wrestling gym in Gilroy. A little drive but I think it would be worth it. Garth Taylor in Santa Cruz is ex high school wrestling coach.
@@jerahbarnett Thank you I appreciate the help :)
@@aegreenwBro, you live in SJ...
Go train at AKA with Islam Machachev
@@MastersmokeABUSE is that accesible for normal people like us, what? ( im from europe so i have no idea )
"You can shake hands, do what you want", and both just stare and at each and walk in opposite directions LOL
Thank you, Adam Sandler.
Is freestyle more injury prone then, from the more dynamic throws?
I'd love to hear what you think about this style of wrestling: Chen Style pushing hands
ua-cam.com/video/Os-fh6M-lXs/v-deo.html
The goal is to take the opponent down or pushing him out of the circle and you have to stay on your feet whatever happens. It's a little bit like Sumo.
That’s pretty cool! It’s wrestling!
Khabib style with locked hands is the best
It's called Freestyle wrestling.
I'm confused on folk style bc I've seen girls wrap the head and dig the girls head into the mat and not get called. Heck one girl at state literally grabbed the head and kept slamming the girls head and there was no consequences.
Bruh so complicated with all the rules and points I just wanna learn how to suplex someone if I get attacked in a street fight
What's the difference between these, Judo, and Sambo?
It's funny that you say that I wrestled with Kyle Dake in high school 4 years 5 years of tournaments against his team. He didn't start doing this stuff into a college. I promise you.
How long do each of the styles allow you to stay on the ground before they stand you back up?
For,me as a former wrestler and coach folk style is more familiar and has the the thing that makes American wrestlers have the style of hard hand fight lots of snaps but not very good at partare in freestyle I am in favor of some kind of adoption if a push out or fleeing the mat penalty or scoring for high school its hard to define criteria in college,it becomes a judgement call and not allways a common sense call but I still favor it to high school just walk out when your underhooked or any other tie up your not comfortable with anyway thats my 2 ¢ I prefer folk style for the athleticism,and,strength endurance grind weight cuts makes the USA the hard nosed determaned bad ass humble bunch we have on our national team all stems from folk style
Any one else see that guy getting a hair cut in the back
15:07
Get Joe Hendry and he will explain the difference between freestyle, Greco roman , and catch wrestling. Yes he is a pro wrestler but he was trained by Marty Jones and Johnny Saint( disciples of billy Robinson pro and CATCH wrestler). He can also explain judo.
He can also explain the difference between judo and bjj. Yes he have done some training in bjj. Check his Instagram.
Just a dude casually getting his haircut in the background.
Nice video but that whistle noise about drove me crazy
Why did they create folkstyle and play amongst themselves? Wouldn’t focusing on freestyle/greco and competing internationally more prestigious?
They didn't.
Both Freestyle and Folkstyle come directly from the same parent style: Catch wrestling. When Olympic movement banned submissions from (Catch) wrestling in 1920s, both sides of Atlantic started independently establishing formal rulesets for what was known at the time as "Amateur Catch wrestling". The goal was to make it more safe and youth friendly, in accordance to the Olympic ideal. Both sides created different governing bodies for their wrestling organizations, but ultimately it was the European hegemony which took over internationally.
Notice: this was during 1920s where Europe was still the world leading power, and U.S was still engaging more or less in isolationism. By the time U.S became an active superpower in 1950s, Freestyle had already firmly established itself at the Olympics.
In fact, the early iterations of Freestyle and Folkstyle were very similar to each other, as both tried to mimic the essense of their parent: Catch . However, that was 100 years ago. Since then, both wrestling styles have undergone multiple rounds of changes in rulesets for various reasons. These days they appear to be more far apart, so it's more difficult to see the common origin.
@@kallepikku4991 Yeah as the US was MORE ISOLATED their "amateur catch wrestling" was more OLD FASHIONED. Old fashioned as in the sense of NO SUPLEX. After all suplex came originally from greco roman wrestling. But thank to the influence of Georg Hakensmidt(sp?) and Karl Gotch it later went into freestyle and pro wrestling. Unfornately while the suplex did go into pro wrestling it didn't went into what is now known as folkstyle wrestling. At least here in the US.
Wait, escape is rewarded by 1 point.
Best 1 no
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Coach can you be honest now.....what do you think that is better for grappling folk or free?
Both have advantages.
I.e. both are good for different reasons. I suggest do both.
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When I thought Judo had convoluted rules
The scoring in folkstyle is much easier and cut & dry compared to freestyle
explaining while having people locked may get you a non-waking up ever again student
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which one is more famous for oil checks?