Six Feet Under "Killing for Revenge" Review (HOW IS THIS AN IMPROVEMENT AND STILL TERRIBLE?!?)
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
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Necrotic Nick and Jammin' Jon go over the latest offering from Tampa death metal act Six Feet Under with their new album "Killing for Revenge" out now!
thrallsofmetal...
Hating Six Feet Under is a fashion trend at this point.
Necrotic Nick- It wouldn't be if they made good music.
"Chris Barnes is the best death metal vocalist"- Chris Barnes
Was one of the best not even close anymore
@@michaelschafer7920 yeah I agree
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh
@@darkmarv8045 🤣
@@michaelschafer7920 IKR. He sounded really good on Tomb of the Mutilated and The Bleeding, but man....................SFU has been mediocre for awhile now.
I am very disappointed in the lack of EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE’s on this album
Necrotic Nick- Weirdly enough, I am too. That at least added some humor to it before lol
When a band name matches the talent of work
Necrotic Nick- LOL
@@thrallsofmetalcurious to know your opinion on the one man band Fetid Zombie
I've come full circle here. The very first video I watched of you guys was the review for Nightmares of the Decomposed and just loved your candor. I waited ever since to see a follow up review with a new album from Six Feet Under and it's just as entertaining and informative! Thanks guys and wish success in everything you guys do!
Necrotic Nick- Hey, I'm glad you stuck with us for this long. Thank you. It's been a wild ride over the course of this channel's existence and we're just happy to know we're still connecting with people out there. It means a lot, bro!
The ONLY reason that I was anticipating this album was to see how much fun you’d have with this review.
Necrotic Nick- Well, I hope we trolled it enough lol
Cannibal Corpse are playing with immolation,municipal waste and schizophrenia in the uk and Europe in the autumn
Schizophrenia rips! That band is the truth. One of the modern death/thrash bands doing it right.
Necrotic Nick- That's a sick line up, man!
Incredible observation 👌
@@thrallsofmetal Yeah can’t wait. It’s gonna kill.
@@sadboi7537 just saw Schizophrenia live at a festival in Belgium. They absolutely ripped from start to finish! Awesome band. Unlike Six Feet under, apparently 😂
Chris Barnes is one of the death metal vocalists of all time
Necrotic Nick- Agreed lol
*was
Chris Barnes is one of the best death metal vocalists of all time...he's also one of the worst.
Necrotic Nick- That's some rarefied air right there lol
This is probably the most true statements I've ever heard
Haunted is one of my favorite death metal albums. Barnes fronting Obituary. I still know every word. Warpath was rad too minus 420.
Necrotic Nick- Haunted is alright but I feel like I can just jam an Obituary album and get more enjoyment out of it.
Necrotic Nick owned you on this one, benner
@@benng4376 yeah boy
Leftover obituary riffs? So your telling me beneath a black sky and silent violence aren’t as good as anything on slowly we rot? Gimme a break you idiots praise bands that put out ten times worse records, I get your butt hurt because SFU are more known than some underground bands you like, 💀
I need to know why Chris Barnes hires some of the best musicians just to play caveman riffs. The only thing holding SFU down is Chris Barnes lmao
i love SFU, i loved nightmares of the decomposed, love this one too, yes barnes voice is not what it used to be but i still love it. It's unique and i like it.
Necrotic Nick- Eh, it's unique... but you could also say that about Yoko Ono too. To each their own though.
Nightmare of the decomposed is like the movie the room. So bad its good.
You feeling ok?
ok barnes fake account
"These songs are like musical constipation because these turds won't move"
Ngl haven't laughed that hard at a line in a while.
Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! It felt like an accurate descriptor for those two songs in particular lol
Honestly, for a brief moment he was the best. I think his prime was Butchered and Tomb. His vocals on Unborn are quite brutal and definitely his best with Six Feet
"Death by throat" is definitely one of the lyrics Chris has ever done
DON'T do drugs kids!
After much consideration I ended up buying my first Six Feet Under album in 2015, Crypt of the Devil. I have to say I like this album, nothing particularly earth-shattering, but pleasant enough to hold its place in my collection. So in the end I have a fifth album with Chris Barnes and that's good enough for me. 😊🤘
Necrotic Nick- Hey, to each their own. I'm glad there are still people out there that dig this one but it definitely wasn't for me. I'd still recommend checking out Haunted especially if you like Obituary too. It's a pretty decent album honestly.
This album rips! I can't help but respect the man for grindin out dm since the 90s.
Necrotic Nick- To each their own, man. I disagree but I'm glad you dig it.
Huh? Those early Six Feet Under albums are awesome.
I honestly just got tickets for nile and six feet under like i said im an old school SFU fan but nile is going to waste them my conclusion is if barns blocks everyone on facebook whats he going to do when people taunt him live i dont think his ego is going to take it
Now let's have you fellas suffer through an album ranking of all of 6FU's catalog 😂
Necrotic Nick- I don't know if I could make it through that one lol
Where can I get the isolated vocal tracks?
Necrotic Nick- Hopefully nowhere lol
😂
The cover art by Vince Lock is the best part of this release. I feel like with all the unnecessary fights Barnes picks with people online, STFU popularity being for the wrong reasons, Chris is having his midlife death metal crisis.
I read it was Jack Owen who recommended Barnes just mainly use the low guttural vocals on this one.
Necrotic Nick- Man, it pains me to say this then but Jack is a killjoy lol. The EEEEEE's actually made it more entertaining in a way. It was hilarious and it's not as though just switching to lower vocals made this much better.
@@thrallsofmetalThe eeeeeeeeeee's are like his trademark thing so they had add more character 😂
I remember going to Best Buy to pick up the Warpath cd and listening to it on the way to work and by the 3-4 song of repetitive chorus's, I was like nope I'm out and have not listened to them since!! So, from your review it sounds like I made a very wise choice!!!!🤘🤘🤘🤘
Necrotic Nick- I remember seeing ads for that one in magazines a ton but I wasn't really super impressed with Haunted so I never followed up on any of the other ones. I've heard there are some gems in the discography but honestly, despite some of the music being solid, Barnes' vocals post Cannibal Corpse have been pretty damn rough and I just can't get into them. There's a few decent tunes on here but most of this is just weak and repetitive so you're not missing out on much at all.
Surprised you didn’t get Rin and Shred for this video considering how well the last SFU review did.
Color me surprised too
@@lutfimakarim8258 Rin has been around, but I seriously can't remember the last video I saw Shred in. It was last year, but not recently. And that last SFU review is LEGENDARY, lol.
He was in the TBDM ranking a few months ago.
Necrotic Nick- Works schedules didn't line up but they'll be back.
I was disappointed that Barnes didn't do his eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee like he did on the previous album. I laughed so hard when I heard him do that. The eeeeeeeeeee is what made me want to go back and listen to the previous album and him not doing that on the new album makes it hard for me to go back to it since there is nothing enjoyable or funny about it.
Necrotic Nick- I think that was Jack's suggestion that Barnes went with all deeper vocals on this or at least that's what I heard in the comments so far. I honestly missed if only for the violent fit of laughter when I heard it on the last one. I don't know how he thought that screeching cicada noise was a good idea but it was at least hilarious lol.
Anything Cannibal Corpse has done with corpse Grinder, in my opinion, is better than what they've done with barns. That's just my opinion, and I do like The first couple of Cannibal Corpse albums with Chris Barnes in it, but I think corpse grinder. Just bring so much more power and range. As far as death metal range goes, to cannibal corps then Chris Barnes could ever do in his prime again Just my opinion
Necrotic Nick- Honestly, I've gotta disagree just because The Bleeding is still hands down my favorite Cannibal Corpse album and Tomb of the Mutilated isn't far behind. They're just a consistently good band though which is kinda the exact opposite when comes down to SFU. Barnes was a pioneer in terms of guttural vocals but in terms of vocal dynamics Corpsegrinder is better vocalist all around.
@thrallsofmetal 100% agree with corpse evolution I mean their latest album might be a top 3 in their Catalog of albums. Honestly in my opinion Cannibal Corpse has never made a bad album no matter who is on vocals. Some are better than others but every album is at the very least really good. I really think they've found another level with their last 4 albums
12:40 is another reason why I am an unabashed Jammin Jon fan. The man got me to give a serious listen to Vitriol, who are now My Favorite Upsetting Band That Isn’t Portal, and I am forever grateful.
Also, another stellar review guys. Horns and hails from SoCal! \m/
I don’t know, Haunted still holds up as do warpath and maximum violence, they kinda were doing something different with death metal I think, adding hard rock influences like carcass and even bits of nu metal on maximum, as the album’s progressed they did go back to the old school death metal sound, With that being said you can deny each of their records have their own vibe and sound completely different than the last, excluding death rituals and 13, those are pretty similar! As far as Barnes vocals over the years? Well he had a different delivery on each cannibal record, The bleeding was probably the record he found his voice, you can almost understand every word on that album, and on haunted the same, haunted is definitely obituary with Barnes singing but his vocal hooks are way more memorable than than anything tardy has done! And the songs are way more memorable to me. Very well written songs as opposed to obituary’s almost made up on the spot vocal passages. That being said Barnes voice today? It sets SFU apart from the rest is all I can say, love it or hate it, I mean deftones without vocals is nu metal but add chinos voice, it made them unique. True Barnes so called damaged voice is a weak statement to say SFU are different than any other death metal band but vocals make or break a band, and it could be the what sets you apart from the rest of the pack, also SFU have done some good and bad covers over the years but I have to say they do death n roll the best!🤘
Necrotic Nick- Technically the death n' roll thing was being done by Entombed with Wolverine Blues before Six Feet Under really took a crack at it but vocally I think Barnes peaked in Cannibal Corpse. A lot of that may be due to the fact that being a pioneer of guttural vocals he probably never learned to do those vocals safely and it caused a lot of damage to his vocal cords over the years. I have to disagree with you on Barnes being better than Tardy though. They're not even in the same league and Tardy still has his voice and can perform well live. Barnes has no range to his growl and you can tell he's got very little power behind it now. You can tell he's struggling because he doesn't have much to work with. As for Deftones, I don't think they've written a nu metal album since Around the Fur and while Chino's vocals give them a very recognizable sound I don't think he's the element that keeps them from sounding like a nu metal band these days. Also, he has a much broader wheelhouse than Barnes does vocally so it's not the best comparison. The main point is just because something sounds different doesn't mean it also sounds good. That being said, we all hear music differently and taste is subjective so it's all a matter of opinion here.
@@thrallsofmetal well said, tho I must disagree with Barnes voice peaking in cannibal , True carnage, Unborn and Undead captured some of his lowest growls I think, i think his improper technique helped him in some ways to find his own voice in the genre, as much as I loved tomb and butchered, I really could not imagine those vocals on Warpath or Haunted, improper technique has cost him over the years I have to agree tho, I don’t think Barnes is better than tardy in range, but I think Barnes had better vocal hooks which made many of the early SFU songs memorable tho tardy had some really catchy lines on the back from the dead album, by the light and threatening skies to me are still their most memorable and well written songs, like Barnes Tardy is also instantly recognizable as well🤘
Necrotic said it. Haunted was an Obituary album but with a different vocalist. I was looking forward for Haunted. I got it the day it came out. The damn thing bored me to sleep.
The first song that Six Feet Under released from this album wasn't terrible. I still had my problems with it, the lyrics, the guitar production, the drum and its lack of bass, but the faster tempo and the decent vocal track it wasn't bad. Then I heard other bits from this album. Most notable being the Hair of the Dog cover. How do we still defend Chris Barnes status as a legend? We can't take away what he did with Cannibal. But defending his past is becoming impossible with how terrible his present. I can't just abandon a hero from my teenage years but Chris is really leaving me with no other choice.
Necrotic Nick- Yeah, Haunted is pretty much every riff that Obituary didn't want from Allen West which, while I love Obituary, Haunted is just a so so album. Know-Nothing didn't do much for me but admittedly Ascension had some solid riffs and some explosivity to it that wasn't found on the last one but yeah, when the rest of it dropped it really wasn't anything special. More energetic musically? Yes, but still painfully generic and Barnes has nothing left in the tank. I'll always love his stuff in Cannibal Corpse. That band was one of the main reasons I became a death metal fan but the time has come for him to hang it up.
Honestly prefer Nightmares over this because that album at least was fucking HILARIOUS to listen to. 5/5 for humour alone. This album was lacking the same EEEEEEEEEnergy.
Necrotic Nick- I'll be honest, I missed the EEEEE's too lol
I've been writing all my life and sometimes I'll whip out my old laptops or phones to see some of the stuff I saved on there. It's really cringy reading some of the dumb shit I used to write, even worse thinking how I used to write it being like "oh my god this is the best fuckin thing ever, i'm literally so good". Even as an angsty hormonal teenager who thought edginess was the soul of wit, at least what I was writing meant something, and could actually be understood in both a literal and metaphorical sense if you read it comprehensively from top to bottom. Which is way more than you can say about how Chris Barnes writes now as a grown ass man. How he can write such dumb shit confounds the everlasting fuck out of me and is honestly really frustrating.
I think it’s a great album. I think you guys are just riding the hate bandwagon because it’s easy content. I think if cannibal made those last two six feet records you would call it great.
Necrotic Nick- So, because you liked it you think we secretly did but we just trolled it anyway because it's easy? Yeah, I don't think that theory holds much water, bro. If I liked something I say so and if I don't like something I say so. If people agree or disagree with me that's fine but I'll speak my mind regardless. If CC had dropped this or Nightmares I would have lambasted it even though I love the band. If it was Corpsegrinder doing the vocals it might have been slightly better but musically this is pretty damn weak.
@@thrallsofmetal just seems crazy to me how everyone can hate something that’s really not even that bad. Even nightmares had some great riffage. I even enjoyed the pig squeal haha. The internet is just cringe and I bet 90 percent of people that “hate it” havent listened, or just seen a video like this. The fact that I couldn’t even post my opinion in the Death Metal sub Reddit because SFU is blacklisted..is wild to me haha. If you have it a listen and truly didn’t enjoy it that’s fine I believe you.
Necrotic Nick- Well, taste is subjective. What one person thinks is a killer album the other might think is trash. No one's saying you can't love this album. In fact I'd encourage that but not everyone will share that passion. I also encourage people to listen to the album and form their own opinions but that's on them if they want to listen to it. It seems like with a lot of people this band has worn out their welcome (apparently to the point they've been blacklisted on Reddit forums. Wow. That is kinda wild) and it's become more of a parody of a metal band. But again, to each their own.
It's honestly their best album since Unborn. I wish they took out Neanderthal and the Nazareth cover though. The Nazareth cover feels like the record label forced them to do it.
@@antonioilardo6691yeah. That Nazareth cover was unnecessary. Done to death. Shit, even Guns N Roses has done it.
But I liked the 6 feet Under album as a whole, I like everything by them.
A friend of mine used to torment me when I was loaded and trying to crash. He would play their hideous version of T.N.T. on repeat to get me to wake up angrily and drink more. AC/DC should never be re-imagined by a silly bastard with butt-plugs in his ear-lobes.
Crazy…I hate SFU, however, I thoroughly liked this album and just purchased it LOL…1st ever SFU album I actually spent money on Hahahah
I'm surprised you guys didn't mention anything about Cannibal Corpse album cover artist, Vince Locke doing the artwork for this new SFU album.
Necrotic Nick- I was going to but I forgot. I got lost in the trolling lol
Considering how colossally terrible "Nightmares Of The Decomposed" was (plus, also, "Torment" & "Graveyard Classics IV" right before) I think anything would have been viewed as a marginal improvement. "Killing For Revenge" isn't post-Taco Bell explosive diarrhea, but its still a load of shit.
Necrotic Nick- Agreed. Barnes could have read a Denny's menu while the band played some of the brighter spots on this one and I would have said it was better than that dogshit tier abomination. At the same time I feel like most of the extra effort that went into this one was wasted simply because Barnes isn't going to get any better. As long as he's in the band it will probably suck.
@@thrallsofmetal Praise Odin it's not as bad as Aluminum in My Anus. Still sucks though.
"I am the greatest death metal vocalist ever!"
-Wise Words from Chris Barnes 😂
Necrotic Nick- He might be the only person that believes that lol
First time on this channel. Great, honest, zero bull-shit SFU review.
I must stand with Chris regardless. When I was 17, I bought a Metal Blade Records 20th Anniversary 2CD compilation with SFUs Lycanthropy and Cannibal Corpses’ Skull Full of Maggots. That was my introduction to both bands and Chris Barnes. I’m 45 now. Chris is like the weed smoking big brother I never had. SFU is an extension of Cannibal Corpse, Obituary, Death, and Massacre…that’s enough for me.
Not long after, I bought Haunted, Alive & Dead (EP), and Warpath from Columbia House.
At the time, SFU was everything I was looking for. This furious music was an outlet for my own problems…specifically high school, my asshole bullies and moronic
teachers who wouldn’t register a blip on a cat-scan, and my parents who nagged me every waking moment to get a job.
I remember how excited I was for Maximum Violence because they covered Iron Maiden’s Wrathchild. Without a doubt, War Is Coming is my favourite SFU song & I really do like their covers of War Machine and Jailbreak.
Speaking of covers, when I found myself in university in the Fall of 2001, listening to Graveyard Classics. That album helped get me through a difficult time. I was so over school and hated every minute of my time on campus. Chris gave me something that resembled stability and familiarity. I was an introvert in an extrovert’s world. I genuinely enjoy their covers of TNT, Sweet Leaf, California Uber Alles, Stepping-Stone, Smoke on the Water, Purple Haze, all their AC/DC covers from Vol 2, and I thought the idea of doing an album which consisted of half Maiden, half Judas Priest covers was brilliant!
I feel that fans started turning on him after he got in that fight with Seth Putnam. I really don’t know much about it other than A.C.s charming little tune. That, coupled with the fact that time has taken its toll on Chris’ voice.
Let’s agree that Nightmares of the Decomposed is bad. Everything about it is ugly. I take solace in knowing that that wasn’t the end of SFU. I like Killing For Revenge, but maybe I’m just easy to please.
Necrotic Nick- Hey! Thanks, man! We're the same age by the way. Some people didn't appreciate the honestly but I hate pandering. I'll always have respect for Barnes' influence and contributions to the evolution of death metal as a whole with his work in Cannibal Corpse but Six Feet Under never lived up to it's potential in my opinion. But that's just me. I know this band has legions of fans that adore them and probably much like you have a strong connection with. The Putnam thing didn't do much for his image but there's been other instances like when he sucker punched Travis Ryan from Cattle Decap and hid in his trailer rather than face him. He seems to enjoy stirring the shit pot but tends to shrink back in the shadows when he gets called out on it. Even as much as I love his work in CC it's hard to defend him sometimes. Hey, I'm glad you dig this one. Regardless of what we say we're definitely not saying to not listen to it, buy it or tell people how much you love it. Take care, man!
@@thrallsofmetal I didn’t know he had beef (no pun intended) with Cattle Decap. I’ve watched a handful of your other videos since this one…your rankings of Death, Type O and most recently Uncle Acid.
You took the time to reply, I’ll subscribe right now and go check out your Metal Unboxing 2024🤘
Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! I try to reply to as many comments as I can because I genuinely like talking to our fans. Yeah, I forget how long ago the Cattle Decap incident was but I think it stemmed from jealousy that Cattle Decap was drawing more fans as an opener than SFU was as the headliner and Barnes handled it poorly.
When I heard they were doing a cover of Hair Of The Dog, I couldn’t wait to hear it. It didn’t disappoint 🤣🤣
Necrotic Nick- He should have thrown an EEEEE on the "son of a bitch" part lol
@@thrallsofmetal that’s what I was hoping for when I read about the cover lol the one time I wanna hear that stupid EEEEE sound, and he didn’t do it. Bastard.
I jammed it yesterday and was waiting for it to be over.
I gave it a chance and it's not for me, same with that new Deicide.
You know this is going to be one of your most popular videos in the coming years cuz everyone loves your guys' Chris Barnes roasts 🤣. A couple packs of smokes and a bottle of Whisky goes a long way in album production *cough cough EEEEEEEEEEE!!!*
Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! I mean, the Nightmares video is the one that blew up for us so here's to hoping this one does just as well. As long as we're around and this band keeps releases shit albums we'll definitely be there to talk about it lol.
I gave it 2.0/5.0. Musically, it is much better due to Jack Owen’s writing and no pig squeel. However, Barnes’ vocals are so shot that I struggled with enjoying anything off of this record. Just flat out terrible. I will never listen to this again.
Necrotic Nick- It's better... but still finds away to suck. There's some solid songs that despite Barnes' best efforts to ruin them are actually pretty good... but then there's shit like Neanderthal... for suck sake how did that make it on the album? Hell and EEEEEE would have at least given me something to laugh at. Most of this was just dull.
Chris Barnes is the goat a very bad and nasty goat 🐐
I feel like alot of people are missing the point. When has murdering been pretty?? Its a tool for shifting gears and putting in work
Necrotic Nick- No one's arguing it's supposed to be pretty though. It's just very bland and the vocals are weak as hell.
@thrallsofmetal weak in terms of what? Other metal bands? They stuck to death and being six feet under. The whole point is being dead. What dead body you know that jumps up and delivers beautiful metal. I mean they have a song called blood of the zombie for fuck sake lol
Necrotic Nick- Yes. There's plenty of OSDM bands (contemporaries of SFU no less) that put more effort into their music and lyrics than SFU does. Just out of curiosity: do you listen to a lot of other death metal bands?
@thrallsofmetal yes I'm always looking for more good metal to jam to. But I run into the same problem you guys do wich is I don't like their voice lol. I like snuffed on sight, Cann Corp of course, good ol cradle of filth, suffocation,Nile isn't bad, white chapel (old version), job for a cowboy, etc.... but alot of the bands out there have a weird higher pitch sound in their voice that just sucks except for cradle of filth lol . Sfu I just happen to enjoy the lack of giving a fuck and just throwing shit on the track
Gonna listen to it later on and well you know the rest boys and I'm also going through your entire archive and reviewing all the albums you guys have done so I can be caught up which is gonna take awhile.
Thanks
Please tell me Barnes has you guys blocked on social media like he has many of his critics...myself included...
Necrotic Nick- I'm not sure if he even knows who we are to be honest lol.
Not even gonna bother with it to be honest. Such a shame because Barnes' vocals on the first 4 CC albums are untouchable. Such a damn shame
Necrotic Nick- Believe me, I would have rather jammed the first 4 Cannibal Corpse albums than this.
I heard a snippet of the new song and that was enough wow chris barnes time has come and gone
Campaign for a SFU ranking!
C’mon boys it would comedy gold video all the way.
Love this channel 🤘
Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! Ugh... I really don't want to rank this band but I'll consider it at least for the laughs lol.
The entire Thralls crew ranking that discography would be the stuff of legend and break the internet! DO IT!!
@@nlwrigh will be their funniest video yet 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
Loving that "Heartwork" and "Left Hand Path" on the wall!
On the bright side new rotting christ is out soon and thats gonna just be the best pallette cleanser
Necrotic Nick- Sadly we won't be able to cover that one since we'll be at MDF but I'll probably snag it and cover it in a collection update.
@@thrallsofmetal good to know so far the three songs are phenomenal and great live
I have a special place for Maximum Violence being my first DM album when I was a kid. Just seeing that album cover at my local Warehouse Music drue me in but yeah this band blows
Necrotic Nick- I get it. Eaten Back to Life was one of the first death metal albums I ever got and I'll always love that album for at least that... and the fact it's awesome honestly. Nostalgia is a powerful thing but when the returns diminish this much I can understand just letting go.
Chris Barnes is the Ronnie Radke of Death Metal.
Not going to lie, Maximum Violence is a killer album. Most people dog on it because its SFU, but I'm not ashamed to say that I like that album. Mainly just that album lol.
Necrotic Nick- I've checked out some Maximum Violence over the years and it's alright. Not much this band has ever done has really jumped out at me as something better than average. That's just me though.
@@thrallsofmetal Fair enough. Not going to argue you with that point. But I would also recommend their other album 'Crypt of the Devil' from 2015. Is Barnes vocals good on it? Fuck no. Is the music totally kick ass? Absalutely.
SFU discography ranking maybe?
Necrotic Nick- The gap between first and last place would be so narrow lol
For the comedy value alone we need a thralls SFU ranking, yes please 🤞🤞
As a fan of Six Feet Under, and a fan of Thralls of Metal, I knew I was going to enjoy the review no matter what the verdict was.
I have the album, but I really haven't had the chance to really sit down and absorb it yet. If i had to do my own personal ranking, this one might end up pretty high on the list. Yeah, definitely an improvement. At the very least I wasn't offended by how awful it was. Wish I could say the same about the latest Pestilence album.
I'm actually a little disappointed there wasn't at least one EEEEEEE. If I were Barnes I probably would have doubled down. 😂
Also - it was actually Jack who wrote the lyrics to Know Nothing Ingrate. I think he wrote all the lyrics on this one but don't quote me on that. For years SFU was basically Barnes' solo project, but now it almost seems more like Jack Owen's solo project.
Necrotic Nick- Hey, we appreciate that. Whether people love or hate this band is up to them. Either way we're not telling anyone to not listen to it, buy it or enjoy it... even if we thought it sucked... again lol. It does show some improvement but, for me at least, not enough to save it. We skipped the Pestilence album since it was just a bunch of re-recordings of songs they should have left alone. Yeah, I could've stood one EEEEEE on there just for the laughs but I think Jack wanted Barnes to stick with all low vocals on this one. I still find it weird that Jack wrote the lyrics on this since it sounds like it's just Barnes lyrical stuff. The bitching about internet trolls doesn't seem like something Jack would be concerned with as much as Barnes. Maybe Barnes dictated them? I don't know but if Barnes isn't even writing the lyrics or any of the music then what is he actually doing other than destroying his vocal cords yet again?
One of the albums of all time for sure from one of the bands of all time 💀💀💀
Necrotic Nick- Agreed lol
I don't understand who listens to this as a final product and goes ship that shit!! Barnes era Cannibal has always been my favorite but ever since Warpath he has just plummeted! Time to maybe start doing duets and finally pump out that jazz album Chris!
Anyway i miss the good ole days a couple of good magazines which i seldom read just plastered my walls with the posters played my music and banged my head and didn't give a shit what anybody said! Now we have more pod cast haters than bands😢
Necrotic Nick- We have more "pod cast haters" than bands? LOL! You don't go looking for much in the way of new music then, huh? Anyway, it's just our opinion. If you dig it then that's cool. I'm not going to say I liked it this album for the sake of some fragile ass fans.
@@thrallsofmetal I'm not gonna bow down to anyone .I don't argue for arguing sake ..and to up you're fragile ego .have a good one .I'm a musical encyclopedia name something.
@@thrallsofmetal music wouldn't be here without them were all kinds of human .it's better to say anything in a song thats my opinion..later guys enjoyed the banter your fragile ass fan lol
Necrotic Nick- After reading both of these comments I'm surprised you know what an encyclopedia is lol. Also, if you can't handle people disagreeing with you then perhaps stay off the internet,
I'll try
The artwork is pretty dope though.
Necrotic Nick- I'll give them that. Vincent Locke is a killer artist.
I prefer Six feet under over Cannibal
You feeling ok dawg
Just from listening to the singles…. The vocals stand out like a sore thumb. It is super distracting how bad they are. Like, is Metal Blade actually making any money from this? Are there enough people who would buy this to offset the expenses of making it? At least your review was entertaining!
Necrotic Nick- I think SFU is one of Metal Blade's highest selling artists still which blows my mind. I don't get it but with any band that's been around for awhile they have their diehards. I'm definitely not one of them as you can tell lol.
Six Feet Under is one of the bands of all time.
Necrotic Nick- Agreed. They've made some of the albums of all time too.
@@thrallsofmetalLMAO!
Up to true carnage i think all albums are beyond descent....the first two albums are classics for me...maybe its nostalgia cause when haunted came out it was the soundtrack for our weed nights...its groovy ...the production is solid and the vocals are Barnes at his best ( cannibal corpse albums excluded }
SFU weren't the best band in the scene, but they really used to make good albums.
I loved their catalog up to death ritual s
@michaelschafer7920 I liked them for their more stripped-down Obituary style of death metal, but Obituary still kicks ass. It's so disappointing seeing how low this band fell.
Necrotic Nick- For me that's debatable but I'll admit they made better music earlier on in their career at least.
barnes should have been using a pitch shifter since like 2005
Personally ive never been a SFU hater, over the years they have released some solid stuff, especially Haunted, Maximum Violence, and more recently Undead and especially Unborn i have enjoyed, however, its been on the downswing ever since, and this album continues that trend unfortunately. 2/5 is about right, theres some interesting musical ideas here n there, and Chris sounds better than the last one, but that is faint praise really lol
Necrotic Nick- I wouldn't be a hater if a) the music hadn't been as bad as it's been here lately and b) if Barnes wasn't such a douche half the time. He's really difficult to like here lately. I still think Haunted is a decent and there's some other songs I like outside of that which are pretty solid but Barnes presence means diminishing returns for the most part here lately. His vocals are roached despite being a bit stronger here than the last one. I just don't think this band will ever get better as long as he's still steering the ship.
I listened to this album and until they get a different vocalist, I’m not listening to another Six Feet Under album. You can technically say it’s better than Nightmares Of The Decomposed but I don’t think that matters because it’s like comparing a turd log with a diarrhea puddle, it’s shit. I prefer this album over TTPD but only because I didn’t expect much from Six Feet Under to begin with.
Necrotic Nick- That's the thing, they'll never get a different vocalist as it's Chris's band. Sadly that means it might not get any better than this regardless of who he gets to play in the band too.
Nice Necrot shirt
Saw them in February on the Brainsqueeze tour
What annoys me the most is the fact that Jack Owen doesn't seem to have a damn neuron in his big, shiny bold head and break it up with his boyfriend, Chris Barnes.
Jack is a marvelous musician, from the early CC days, to Deicide, and appearing in other stuff, but him still staying because "bArnES is mY boY", yeah you must like the Dallas Cowboys too dude. I lost respect for him..
Necrotic Nick- I think he's just earning an easy paycheck here honestly, The same can be said for the other members. They know they don't have to get very creative because Barnes can't keep up. Jack has written some of my favorite riffs in Cannibal Corpse but I think he's just kinda going through the motions here.
Looking forward to this one. Have Rin, Shredlord and Miller quiet the channel?
Necrotic Nick- They're still around. Work schedules haven't lined up as well here lately but they'll be back.
I actually had a good time jamming this one, much better than the previous. Barnes doesn't sound like what he used to, but he sure sounds unique, nobody sounds like that guy. The instrumentation was pretty solid too, good grooves and some really great solo work I thought.
Necrotic Nick- I mean, yeah... he does sound unique... but who would want to sound like him? He sounds like sick dog or a throat cancer patient and I'm sure neither want to sound like that. I do like that the music is improved but it's not enough to carry Barnes' rotting vocal cords through the album.
All I hear is what sounds like a Rottweiler vomiting over decent death metal riffs.
Necrotic Nick- I'd take that over Barnes vocals at this point.
@@thrallsofmetal I think he’s on either crack or meth… possibly both 🤔
As someone with a meteorology degree and who is a weather enthusiast, I appreciated the Reed Timmer mention
Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! We watch tornado videos all the fuckin' time so that was a fun reference to make.
Jack Owen wrote all the music and lyrics except for one song.
Necrotic Nick- I know he wrote the music but are you sure he wrote the lyrics. Barnes pretty much always writes the lyrics... unless he's gotten so lazy he just outsources now.
I have to say this is definitely the fastest most technical release from them I've ever heard, which isn't saying much but I think Chris was pissed off over the controversial shit talking in the past couple of years and tried his best to sound brutal again on vocals, he's probably really wrecking his vocals at this point, but he doesn't sound as bland as he used to. The band is playing way faster and more aggressive than usual for a 6 feet blunder album, along with decent cover art by Vincent Locke. I can actually listen to this from start to finish as background music until I get to the Nazareth cover at least! It's still not a very good album, but the best thing since 'Haunted' which again, isn't saying much!
Necrotic Nick- Man, if this is the best thing since Haunted then that really doesn't inspire me to own more than Haunted lol. Honestly though, there does seem like an effort here to be more energetic and explosive but it's still just kinda bland minus a few tracks. Part of me wants to feel some sympathy for Barnes but he's made his own bed with all the shit he's said and done over the years. The sucker punching of Travis Ryan, his comments on Jasta's death metal panel (which Jasta called him out and Barnes shrank back in the darkness) and just the fact that he can't take any criticism. It's hard for me to feel bad for him when people are dogging him these days. Yeah, it's better but it's still a turd.
NO EEEE, NO PARTY ☹️
Necrotic Nick- Yeah, this is definitely not the Part-EEEEEE of the laughter the other one was.
Chris Barnes and Jack are almost 60 years old and you expect them to release a death metal masterpiece? lol
Necrotic Nick- Glen Benton and Steve Asheim are almost 60 and they just released a killer Deicide album so I don't think age is the problem here.
A couple of bands have been made albums without any inspiration and poverty of creativity on the saturation metaller field not being an issue credited to Six Feet Under only.The lack of innovation and higher production in this sub-genre of music is fashion clothing wore by all bands belonging to this widely trade.
None of bands are working on art,but making entertainment purchase to sell at any cost.
Necrotic Nick- Uh... yes?
What’s up, guys! Hope y’all are doing well. While you won’t see a SFU review over at the Chamber, I just wanted to say I’m more disappointed in Jack Owen than Barnes. We all knew what to expect from Barnes, but Jack is way better than this. Think about all the great material he penned for Cannibal and Deicide. BTW, didn’t I read a while back that he joined Empty Throne alongside Mike Smith? I guess that’s not a thing anymore? It’s not like I want Barnes to release shitty albums, but here we are. I think it would be really cool if he released something truly killer, but he’s said too much dumb shit for anyone to really get behind it. Oh well. Take care, fellas!
Necrotic Nick- Hey! How's it going, guys! Happy to see you guys are still out there! Yeah, I hate to say it but I think Jack is just cashing a check here. This clearly isn't about creating something with the same fury as his older material because a lot of these riffs I feel like he could have written in his sleep. I think this is more about just giving Barnes something to grumble dumb lyrics over. Yeah, I don't know what happened with the whole Empty Throne thing but I know some of those members are in Suffer with if you haven't checked that out you really should. Honestly, if Barnes still had it... and was less of a dick... I'd root for him but I don't expect anything good to come out of this band while he's still in it... and without him in it there's no SFU. Either way it's good to hear from you guys! You take care!
This new Six Feet Under album is painfully mediocre. While it is an improvement from Nightmares of the Decomposed, that's not a high bar since that I would consider the worst in SFU's discography. Jack Owen and Ray Suhy seem to have better riffs on this album and Marco Pitruzella and Jeff Hughell have really stepped it up on playing bass and drums but the weak link in this band is always Chris Barnes. He's had so many talented musicians in his band and his lyrics and vocals always hold this band back. I will give this album credit, at least there's no annoying high pitched vocals but his monotone gurgly vocals are still all over this album. The lyrics and song titles are ridiculous and overall this album becomes a bore to listen to and when I listened to it, I just wished it would be over.
Necrotic Nick- It's a ever so slight improvement but over all it doesn't save the album from being dull. I liked that it had more energy but it felt like most of the songs kinda charted the same course or just went nowhere but the thing that really drags this down (and what always does) is Barnes. His vocals are still bad even though it feels like he put a bit more effort into them. Honestly, did we need another album from them? If they hang it up I don't think anyone would blame them at this point.
Corpsegrinder should work with s.f.u.!!
Necrotic Nick- I would say that's highly unlikely lol
I actually think it’s pretty good. I think the vocals are improved; solid guitars.
All Hail Barnes! 🤘🏻😎
( flame away- IDGAF)
Necrotic Nick- Hey, to each their own. Barnes does sound better than he did on Nightmares... which again is effectively saying nothing because of how bad that album was.
@@thrallsofmetal Chris is like White Castle…. An acquired taste.
Jack really rips in some of these songs.
I am really enjoying this!
Jack’s songwriting has been declining for a while too. His writing is too basic to compete with the big dogs. Steve from Deicide told him they were going to re-write the tunes he prepared for them and Jack quit the band. Listen to his last album with Corpse, the songs he wrote suck compared to what the other guys wrote. He has been becoming a one trick pony for a while now. The Main reason Stench of Redemption sounds as good as it does is because of the lead work. Jack has written some good songs like The Bleeding but overall it’s been pretty lackluster. I won’t even get started on Barnes…
Necrotic Nick- Outside of Till Death do Us Part I still enjoyed his run with Deicide but I'll admit Stench of Redemption was his finest hour with them. I remember the whole part of the Cannibal Corpse documentary about Jack leaving after The Wretched Spawn (which he wrote some bangers on that one like Decency Defiled) but he just wasn't feeling it. Maybe he's kinda lost that drive a bit and SFU is a band that sadly won't challenge him much since he's keeping things as much in Barnes wheelhouse as he can. Who knows but out of ex-Cannibal Corpse guys here Jack still has something left in the tank where Barnes is running on empty as he has for years now.
Y would six feet come out with an album that doesn't sound like six feet under?
I mean the whole point of being called six feet under is to sound like a corpse that jumped up to spew death metal
Necrotic Nick- There's plenty of meat and potatoes death metal that sounds better though.
@thrallsofmetal again you make it sound like your a couple of nerd band teachers. Alot of "better sounding metal" lacks the actual art. The point is to murder without actually going to jail for murdering. Helps alot of us metal heads be slaves to this fucked up world b4 we die
@thrallsofmetal were not making a fkin sandwich lol. Jump on a motorcycle and put your metal on random. When six feet under plays you wish your bike had another gear. B.c you wanna take it to that stupid dead zombie level while switching lanes
It's not about being smart it's not about being technical it's about the art of making horrible sounds on your way to the grave. I mean broken bottle rape is one of their tunes. thats six feet under
I love watching yall videos...think Maximum Carnage was Six Feet Under last good record... metal brother from Oklahoma 🤘🤘🤘
Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! We appreciate that! Yeah, I think Jon and Rin might agree with you there. I still think Haunted is alright but not much else does much for me.
Thank you y'all for having this channel..I got to learn about many new bands..as a metalhead myself,, I love all kinds of metal,death metal, black metal, and doom metal..I am in my mid 40s and some of the guys that I do hang out with quit listening to metal and pretend to listen to metal when the conversation comes up..I love wearing my heavy metal T-shirts and love going to concerts....I just happy that young guys like yall selves are keeping going.. keep it interesting...thank you and I added y'all to my subscription....metal brother from Oklahoma 🍺🍺🍺
In a few Years Barnes will become a Kind of Pennywise Type of Guy. Not selling Ballons and talks to Children in the sewers, but tell how important and legendary he is (in his own View) to everyone in Bars.
Necrotic Nick- I can see it now: him looming in a sewer offering signed merch and regaling people in stories of his vocal prowess lol
@@thrallsofmetal made my DEEEEEE xd
Someone needs to sit Chris down and tell him…
I did and he blocked me fu@#ers on to high of a pedestal
Necrotic Nick- I think he knows... but he's just not listening lol
I guess I’m one of the few six feet under defenders. Now there’s no denying Barnes vocals aren’t what they used to be and I would never defend them and i understand vocals is important to enjoying a band and an artist but I do stand by this hot take and opinion,
It’s death metal. There’s no such thing a bad vocals
Agree man.
Necrotic Nick- Even objectively in comparison to his contemporaries Barnes vocals are pretty weak for the style itself. Granted it's all subjective but to tell me that you think all death metal vocals are at bare minimum decent is pretty spicey. You might as well just say there's no such thing as a bad death metal band then.
@synystersanta1017 Wait... didn't you say Autopsy, Incantation and Obituary had "awful vocalists" a few comments ago... and you're here agreeing with joerazz91 on his take? Seems a bit inconsistent, man.
@@thrallsofmetal Put it this way, in death metal vocals don’t bother me. I enjoy every style of death metal (tech death, progressive, brutal/slam, melodic, and deathcore) there’s so many death metal vocalists that start to sound the same or similar after awhile. So honestly call me crazy, I think it’s kinda refreshing hearing Barnes vocal style. 🤷♂️
Necrotic Nick- I'll give you that Barnes does sound different but different doesn't equal good. Still, taste is subjective and we all hear music differently so it's just a matter of preference.
With Vince Locke doing the album cover I had high hopes for the record, production isn’t good but some solid songs still. Also Jack Owen wrote like 90 percent of the lyrics I believe, so it’s not Barnes going after internet trolls lol.
Necrotic Nick- I mean... even with that I still didn't but this was a slight improvement. Granted, that isn't saying much considering the only way was up after the last one. I keep hearing that Jack wrote the lyrics but I still feel like it was Barnes possibly dictating them. They're just as bad as Barnes' usually stuff in SFU and no one is really trolling Jack so lyrics like that make me think it's still Barnes and his Barnes-isms lol.
True, the only way was up lol I guess that’s the benefit of making a bad album. But now that you mention it it wouldn’t surprise me if Chris did dictate the lyrics.
I'm a sucker & a BIG fan boy for 25 Years❤Good Review (comon give it a 2) lol:)I love you guys & I love my SFU & weed🍁👹Now....Rate ALL The Albums...ONE SICK 🤬TK
Is it weird that I'm extra disappointed with this album simply because it's an improvement? The production is much better than the last one, no squeals anywhere, some of the riffs are actually pretty hard hitting in places, but it's still not enough to make it good. All it is is an album that is painfully unremarkable with a mix that is slightly kinder to Barnes' completely and obviously shot voice. I wanted to laugh at this like I laughed at Nightmares of the Decomposed because that's the only purpose SFU serve to me, and I couldn't even do that. I'm not happy with this 🤣
Edit: I was slightly wrong, I forgot about the Hair of the Dog cover. At least that was something to laugh at!
Necrotic Nick- Dude, I'm with you on that actually. This was less fun to go over because it does feel like an improvement and there's some decent songs on here... that Barnes tries to ruin but there's an effort at least this time. Even then, it's still not a good album. For as fast paced as most of it is it's really barebones and Barnes "improved" vocals still aren't good. Hell, there's not even an EEEEEE to make fun of so this album denied me some extra joy there lol. At least the unbelievably dumb Neanderthal and that shit cover of Hair of the Dog got some laughs out of me though lol
Much thanks again for suffering for our entertainment. At least there's new uncle acid today and gatecreeper next week. I saw gatecreeper (we left before in flames came on lol) yesterday and they were already selling the new album and you boys will love it.
Necrotic Nick- Hey, it was worth it even if the album was terrible. It's a slight improvement but not enough to call it good though. Yeah, might be doing Uncle Acid with weekend as well as a few others and I'm stoked for the new Gatecreeper. I've dug the singles so far too.
Sad that Jack Owen had to stoop this low..
Necrotic Nick- As long as the check clears I guess.
Bought 'Haunted' when it came out, and liked about 2 thirds of the tracks on it. Then later went and got 'Warpath' and the damn thing almost put me to sleep... Zzzzzx.. haven't payed attention ever since, and I sure as hell ain't gonna start now! 😂
Necrotic Nick- I started and stopped with Haunted so you went further than I did lol.
Honestly, I'm not much of a fan of SFU, as I only got one album of the 17 they put out (never knew there was so many of them). That album is Haunted, and I only got that because I took advantage of that whole get 12 albums for a dollar deal that Columbia House had on the go at the time. Had to find something for the price haha. Kidding aside, I thought and still think it's a decent album. But not decent enough for me to listen to it on a regular basis or to further explore their catalog.
Necrotic Nick- I snagged Haunted used after hearing Lycanthropy on a sampler and I thought it was decent. It's not a terrible album but at that point I was already really into Obituary and it kinda felt like a collection of Obituary b-sides with Barnes on vocals. This album was an improvement but I still think it's pretty bad though. A few standouts don't make up for a lot of really generic material and Barnes roached vocals in my opinion. Still, I'm sure it'll find it's fans and I hope they support the band.
@@thrallsofmetal Well said, brother. Cheers.
It’s a different kind of death metal… I love it all
I give it a 3/5
Musically i like it as there some good thrashy OSDM riffs and even the mid paced songs can still keep your foot tapping
But Barnes is still the issue. The lyrics are horrendous and his vocals have improved hy a fraction but at this point are still completely shot
They need a huge injection of creativity
Necrotic Nick- Musically it had some bright spots and it's clear that some more effort went into this but it wasn't consistent. The standouts really stand out from the pack because the rest is either dull or just plain bad in my opinion. There was a spark here and there but it didn't really light a fire. Honestly, this band needs to move on from Barnes... which would no longer make it SFU but would that be a bad thing?