@@calebnelson58she appears everywhere where all the dominants appear throughout the story. Dominants can sense other dominants. Its easy to see why so many people thought she would be leviathan.
Now that you mention Elemental blades I had an idea for a Gilgamesh DLC for 16. It more or less involves Clive going up against Gilgamesh and that in 16 Gilgamesh was Ultimas attempt to artificially create Mythos. And during the boss fight we see Gilgamesh using eight different weapons corresponding to each Eikon including Leviathan. And then for the final phase of the fight he pulls out on 9th weapon that's supposed to be Ifrit/Ultima
I was only sad 1. That during the final boss clashes they didn't add a water energy clash like "torrent unrelenting!" 2. And obviously that there wasnt an alternate ending having all 8, 9 eikons. Loved Ultima's gift though
Yeah, the missing secret ending was a let down for me as well, but I liked that Ultima didn't use Leviathan. He mentions in a dialogue that he views Leviathan as "tainted" because humans have been hiding it from him for centuries, so he doesn't view it as worthy of being used.
Would've loved an alternate ending to the fight. Instead of Ultima's weak end phase uses Leviathan instead. With Clive having the extra Eikon. He could've also had more ability to control Ultima's power.
Don’t mind there wasn’t a leviathan clash in the end, but imagine an ultima eikon clash? Like ultima shouting “godhood unleashed!” Into a clash. Would have been sick
Leviathan to Ultima is something that is disgusting and tainted by humanitys influence. He doesnt want or need it in his eyes. Him using the power goes against what he says.
It’s definitely in my top 5, for sure. It may not be perfect in some areas, but it had moments that I will never forget, moments that I had never seen to the extent that FF16 brought to life. And as an action game fan, I loved experimenting with all the combos I could do with the different Eikon choices.
@MoreLimitless_ For sure!! The boss battles and Eikon abilities were amazing. The spectacle of the Eikon fights was insane as well. I definitely do have some gripes with the game, but all in all I loved it. Hoping for an actual open world next time that's alive (similar to witcher) and better fps!!
Kairos gate being this like bloody palace sort of vibe to it is something that I like about it! I hope we get one more dlc that at least.. AT LEAST. Gives us a “Clive must die” type difficulty setting
@@madambutterfly1997This was my first FF and now playing FF7 Remake, they are special games, make you feel some kind of nostalgia, wish I could've play them all as a kid
I really gonna remember Final Fantasy XVI and probably listen back at OST while reminiscing Eikonic fight taking place in the game One of the memorable game I ever played
You can play the rising tide without echos I did both in order on my NG+ then went back and did them in reverse on my og save. As long as you are right beofre the final battle we can play either dlc in any order.
3:00 personally, I think that was the Best Approach! A Simple narrative with a Really (pardon my French) Fucked up Twist about how a Baby is Forced to spend Decades trapped in a State of he cannot get out of! 😮😢 That’s what makes this new added Chapter compelling! You WANT to undo this Horrendous SIN committed against him!
Just finished platinum for this game and 100% on dlcs, has been a good run, specially omega fight. though i still think it could had been waaaaaaaaay more. after bahamut fight the game doesn't feel the same to me.
After the Bahamut fight you could tell they had to dial it back due to budget and how much money it really took to create these boss fights. However, I still the the Odin and Utima fight work very well thematically for the story. They may not be as flashy or big as the other boss fights, but I believe they were done very well to serve both the themes and Clive as a character.
@@MoreLimitless_ still think, if they had added the dlcs to the base game, public opinion would be way better, now there will be a lot of players not willing to pay for the dlcs because of the deception in general, not talking about me, as said, i had fun, but talking about friends, other youtubers opinion, or comments in discord or youtube etc. despite i tell to everyone that the dlcs are solid good, omega dlc is done in roughly 2h short but intense, levi dlc is longer and decent worth to pay the price.
90% sure Clive lives. Way too many hints. Essentially he becomes a writer like he said he was going to during all those side quests, and writes the book under Joshua’s name so he can ‘live on’ like Cid. There’s a lot more but there’s loads of videos explaining why he lives. Main thing for me though is the whole writer subplot.
@wr5488 I have to hope he survived and Jill and him got a happy ending otherwise the ending is crushing emotionally. Either way it's a beautiful ending but one is bittersweet and tragic. the other is happy, I've been on the side he returned given context clues but we never get it confirmed entirely
It's all just a story in a book at the end, and there's a strong possibility none of it actually happened. The world ended was never resolved. Ultima was just playing on leaving with Clives body . Killing Ultima doesn't fix anything if anything it made everything worse because the magic zombies are now uncomfortable with all the crystals destroyed.
I love this game but I was really hoping this dlc would be after the final fight and give Clive a happy ending for once since the last place you see Clive is on the beach it would’ve made perfect sense especially since he promised Jill he would come back for her
I honestly didn’t mind that it was a self contained DLC. I believe a DLC shouldn’t change an ending no matter how controversial it is. Having a paid DLC wrap up a story again would feel like a cop out, so I’m glad they stuck to their guns with this. As I said in the video, I think it’s fine for these DLC to be pretty self contained as a little extra for fans who enjoyed the base game, and it really doesn’t need to be more than that imo. If they added some scenes to the final fight; I believe that would have been preferable. But the ending, for me, was good thematically, and I don’t really care for an ending where everyone lives happily ever after.
@@MoreLimitless_ Fair enough you have your opinion I have mine and I can understand why you would say that and that’s ok. To me personally with all of the messed up stuff that happens in this game with Clive and the others in general I would have preferred if they showed Clive at least making it back after the final fight instead of the gut punch or ambiguity we otherwise would get from FF games where “we make you love these characters so we can kill them or you don’t really know if they’re dead or not but we wanna crush your heart” type of deal. Not really a happy ending for all bc Joshua is dead and the whole world is still in turmoil after all the mother crystals are destroyed and the ending was great but I think Clive should at least have an alternate ending or something showing him making it back alive imo
Ppl complaining bout the price n shit. Bros its a whole new area some new things a whole ne boss fight and not one but TWO new eikon abilities and the second is ridiculous all 4 20 bucks,why are ppl complaining that shit crazy????
That’s valid, I think there are certain things that love and hate about both games that really makes me appreciate that they came out within a year from each other. Of course, both games are in my top 5 FF titles.
How? The combat of ff16 is pretty lacking, even with the devil may cry influence(which is one of the best combat systems out there). The game is also missing the final fantasy components which make a typical FF game in the series
@@GottEddy ehm...no? The combat system is really good, especially during the end game, the characters, story and lore are way better than those of ff7 rebirth, it's not hard to love 16 more than the remake series. Also this is final fantasy, no doubt about it, it's different not worse
@@cristianoducceschi3547 The combat system is for casuals, there aren't even combos, just the spuare button sequence. Besides summons and monsters the game has nothing to do with Final Fantasy. You can't even use spells like firaga, blizaga, bio, silence, protec, shell, etc...
@@thisisme2141 I’ve never had a problem with overheating once. I think that was a result of some people not cleaning their PS5 s but it is not a regular problem amongst the community. If you haven’t played it yet, I definitely recommend the demo first.
I already play the demo for the little time that convience me to play, but i worried that some people encountered overheating from this game when they played at eikon battle.
About ff16’s graphical environments….. they are basically corridors that look nice. I think the area should have been more open world. I do love leviathan’s ranged shotgun since i can burn through stagger gauges and take out mobs easily since it can easily break guards and shields to.
Yes, it's a game that isn't open world but that doesn't take away the fact that the game graphically looks amazing, especially with a blue clear sky back in the game. The area was never going to be open world when the rest of the game is structured as an opened zoned game.
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I never got why games HAVE to be open world these days. Just because they have open zones (small or massive) doesn’t mean they are bad. Plus whole open world where everything looks as beautiful as these zones, would be horrible for any console or computer to handle. It’s almost like people say: “only open world games are beautiful and awesome. These non-open world games are nowhere near as good as they should have been. All games have to be open world”. @@MoreLimitless_
I think 16 is going to have multiple volumes (endings). Right now, we have issues or expansions (DLC) to expand the world and give change to the main story. I think the story is changing with each and every New Game and new game mode with the expansions. There is going to be newer ones as each boss you approach have different effects on the story along the way.
Ok so quick question? Seeing as ff16 never resolved the world ending part. Does that mean we get a sequel that covers that part? Or is the real ending true and none of events actually happened and everything is just a bedtime story.
Well, its an ambiguous ending left to interpretation. Many believe that the very end credit scene is hundreds or thousands of years into the future which is why the people of Valisthea think magic and Eikons were a fairytale; much like how real history can't accurately say how events in the past thousands of years came to be. The ending is to show the effects Clive had on the world of Valisthea and drive home that his and Cid's dream was realized in the end; that people can live and die on their own terms without the crystals comfort. It all comes full circle by the end up is left ambiguous so that the players can give their own interpretation of the end, or the events that led up to that point.
@MoreLimitless_ see that's what I don't get. Ultima made a huge slide show showing that he made the crystals, but the world was dying before that point the crystals only speeds up the process. Because we know something or some before, Clive trys and fails to get to Ultima because of the previous spaceship broken around the planet. My TLDR is if that is true. And we are thousands of years into the future. How did we get there because Ultima's death doesn't fix the blight and Ultima doesn't have the power to fix the blight. Ultima big revelation was he was running from the planet and was going to pull a Genova to get away. what actually resolved the blight? At this point I am thinking wild stuff like this is all a prequel. And the blight is Genova and this is the planet she used to get to ff7 world and that book is from clouds planet where some one survived and passed the story down lol.
@@pkkiller_apathy4568 Ultima's death doesn't fix the Blight, but Clive completely removed magic by destroying Origin, which means aether stopped being a thing. The deadlands were places were aether was sucked dry from the land, but since the world didn't need aether anymore, it was just a matter of time before the world evolved again and the deadlands became livable again.
@dinorex3464 I was under the impression that the aether came from the planet? And Ultima created bearers trying to make his vessel? Ultima made it very clear he didn't create the blight it seemed like the blight was the planet trying to fight Ultima in the reverse way it happened on ff7. Where in ff7 the planet used light magic Ultima in this world it used death magic.
@@MoreLimitless_ just wished we would have more content now with Ultima and Leviathan. Also a 4th Eikon slot would be awesome. Yes we have that 20 floors content, but wished for more xD need 2 trohpies for rising tiden, then i got every trophy 😆 160 hours here Lol
The only things I liked about the DLC was the Leviathan boss fight and the reveal that the dominant was a baby but other than that, it was pretty meh. It was basically the same thing we got in the main game and no development on anybody. It was kind of like Shula was the star in this DLC than any of the main characters were and she's just a guest character. Sometimes I don't even understand why Joshua and Jill are even required to be there for the DLCs when the developers just sidelined them the whole time. Might as well just let Clive go alone since he's a one man army a lot of the time anyway lmao. I'm not surprised at all that the developers completely lied about Jill getting anything in the DLC. They already admitted that they knew that the players wanted to see more on other characters other than Clive in the game, so I just knew they were just using Jill in that interview in order to try and gain sales on the DLC. Too bad it didn't work because I actually heard that the DLC didn't even sell much and not many people played it, so it serves them right. I'm more upset about them lying to the fans about Jill than I am about her not getting anything. I already knew they were lying but it ain't right for them to use Jill as a lure and try to take advantage of the fans like that in order to get more money.
I wouldn’t exactly say they lied, they didn’t say Jill would be the focus, only that if we liked Jill, that there’d be things in this DLC that relate to her. The fans themselves took that as “this means its about her” which is wrong. The devs also already said months before that Clive would still be at the center. Additionally, this is just my opinion, but I think Shula was very good. Yes, she is a guest character, but this is a story about her people and their dominant. It makes sense that they would want to focus on her and the people of Mysidia. Jill had great moments up until the latter half of the game, and Joshua was focused on for the majority of the story with Clive. As for the sales, we don’t really have substantial numbers to go off of right now, so I wouldn’t even worry about that atm.
@@MoreLimitless_ Well I already knew that Clive would be at the center of the story lmao but in that case what I think the developers should've clarified about Jill was that there would not be a focus on her specifically but like you said, just certain things in the DLC that would relate to her and not the focus being on her directly. When they say the word "focus" and then follow up with it being on her specifically then that implies that Jill herself will have her own time to shine, so I think they really should've been more careful with their choice of words about that. So technically they did still lie about her, you still make a good point about Shula though. In my opinion, the only good moment that Jill had in the game was at the Iron Kingdom. Even then though I still feel like they did her dirty because we don't even get to play as Shiva in the boss fight against that fire humanoid looking monster (I forgot what the name of that boss was called lmao) That was her fight and her only part of the story where she gets an opportunity to step up and she still got sidelined. The Phoenix being playable was no problem for them in not only one but two boss fights in the game, so I feel like there was absolutely no excuse for Shiva to not be playable there, but they had to make a stupid excuse just because she's.... well you know 🙄 As for Joshua, even though he's literally right behind Clive when it comes to importance in the game and maybe wasn't done as dirty as Jill was, I still didn't like how he doesn't get more involved and join in on the story and fight with us until like 70% into the game. They don't even go into detail as to what Joshua was doing for all those years after the Phoenix Gate incident and even kill Joshua off right before the final boss and doesn't get to even fight with Clive. When you consider all of that it sometimes doesn't feel like Joshua is as important as they say even though he is apparently supposed to be. Btw, please don't take this as me not liking FF16. I actually do like it, it's just that one of the problems that I think this game has and that I think the developers could've done a lot better on it was to make the other main characters a bit more relevant than what they are and have them shine on their own a lot better. I felt awful for all of the other characters in the game because it's like the developers didn't care about any of them except Clive and had too much bias on him, and I feel like literally every character in the game including Joshua merely just existed for Clive's development and that alone just makes them feel sort of irrelevant. You can also tell even more so when you also consider that even on the 5 year time skip, no other character's appearance changed except for Clive's. That's no coincidence imo
Words cannot express my heartbreak at the revelation that the medicine girl isn't leviathan's dominant
So, in the end, the little girl was just a little girl? Maybe her real identity was the one she made along the way
It's baffling and downright insulting
@@mattappl3119A truly worthless character like she’s only prominent cause she saves Dion that’s it?
I thought she was going to be the time witch 🤷
@@calebnelson58she appears everywhere where all the dominants appear throughout the story. Dominants can sense other dominants.
Its easy to see why so many people thought she would be leviathan.
Very fitting that the first thing Clive did as Ifrit was to kill a child, while his last act as Ifrit is to save a baby.
Now that you mention Elemental blades I had an idea for a Gilgamesh DLC for 16.
It more or less involves Clive going up against Gilgamesh and that in 16 Gilgamesh was Ultimas attempt to artificially create Mythos. And during the boss fight we see Gilgamesh using eight different weapons corresponding to each Eikon including Leviathan. And then for the final phase of the fight he pulls out on 9th weapon that's supposed to be Ifrit/Ultima
Or the ultima weapon. Otherwise though I love this idea
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I was only sad 1. That during the final boss clashes they didn't add a water energy clash like "torrent unrelenting!" 2. And obviously that there wasnt an alternate ending having all 8, 9 eikons. Loved Ultima's gift though
Yeah, the missing secret ending was a let down for me as well, but I liked that Ultima didn't use Leviathan.
He mentions in a dialogue that he views Leviathan as "tainted" because humans have been hiding it from him for centuries, so he doesn't view it as worthy of being used.
Would've loved an alternate ending to the fight. Instead of Ultima's weak end phase uses Leviathan instead.
With Clive having the extra Eikon. He could've also had more ability to control Ultima's power.
Don’t mind there wasn’t a leviathan clash in the end, but imagine an ultima eikon clash? Like ultima shouting “godhood unleashed!” Into a clash. Would have been sick
a random nitpick of mine is the ruins of jill’s people, i figured jill’s homeland would be a little colder and less like a jungle?
Jill said the buildings were like her home, not the jungle. I'm pretty sure that Jill's actual home was icy
And btw they told jill would do something in dlc 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is it wrong that I want to revamp of the final fight with Ultima but with him using leviathan's power. Waves Unbound
That would be a nice addition
Leviathan to Ultima is something that is disgusting and tainted by humanitys influence. He doesnt want or need it in his eyes. Him using the power goes against what he says.
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Certainly a difficult task to be sure.
Do one with ultima eikon and make him shout “godhood unleashed”
FF16 is my favourite FF personally. I love action combat.
It’s definitely in my top 5, for sure. It may not be perfect in some areas, but it had moments that I will never forget, moments that I had never seen to the extent that FF16 brought to life. And as an action game fan, I loved experimenting with all the combos I could do with the different Eikon choices.
@MoreLimitless_ For sure!! The boss battles and Eikon abilities were amazing. The spectacle of the Eikon fights was insane as well. I definitely do have some gripes with the game, but all in all I loved it.
Hoping for an actual open world next time that's alive (similar to witcher) and better fps!!
Kairos gate being this like bloody palace sort of vibe to it is something that I like about it! I hope we get one more dlc that at least.. AT LEAST. Gives us a “Clive must die” type difficulty setting
FFXVI gave me an experience that i will treasure for the rest of my life
For me, Final Fantasy as a whole is something I will treasure for the rest of my life. 16 just adds to the collection
@@madambutterfly1997This was my first FF and now playing FF7 Remake, they are special games, make you feel some kind of nostalgia, wish I could've play them all as a kid
Same man
I hope Clive Rosfield will be ready for Dissidia Final Fantasy for PS5.
I really gonna remember Final Fantasy XVI and probably listen back at OST while reminiscing Eikonic fight taking place in the game
One of the memorable game I ever played
You can play the rising tide without echos I did both in order on my NG+ then went back and did them in reverse on my og save. As long as you are right beofre the final battle we can play either dlc in any order.
Ah, okay then, that makes sense
3:00 personally, I think that was the Best Approach! A Simple narrative with a Really (pardon my French) Fucked up Twist about how a Baby is Forced to spend Decades trapped in a State of he cannot get out of! 😮😢
That’s what makes this new added Chapter compelling! You WANT to undo this Horrendous SIN committed against him!
Just finished platinum for this game and 100% on dlcs, has been a good run, specially omega fight. though i still think it could had been waaaaaaaaay more. after bahamut fight the game doesn't feel the same to me.
After the Bahamut fight you could tell they had to dial it back due to budget and how much money it really took to create these boss fights. However, I still the the Odin and Utima fight work very well thematically for the story. They may not be as flashy or big as the other boss fights, but I believe they were done very well to serve both the themes and Clive as a character.
@@MoreLimitless_ still think, if they had added the dlcs to the base game, public opinion would be way better, now there will be a lot of players not willing to pay for the dlcs because of the deception in general, not talking about me, as said, i had fun, but talking about friends, other youtubers opinion, or comments in discord or youtube etc. despite i tell to everyone that the dlcs are solid good, omega dlc is done in roughly 2h short but intense, levi dlc is longer and decent worth to pay the price.
Kairos Gate 🤝 Bloody Palace
Thus game is magnificent. Beautiful, vibrant and polished as hell. I love 7 Rebirth and Remake but I love 16 just as much.
They should do a Gilgamesh DLC, but he's not in every FF like FFX
The ending of this game destroyed me, I cant bring myself to replay or enjoy DLC knowing what happens in the end.
90% sure Clive lives. Way too many hints.
Essentially he becomes a writer like he said he was going to during all those side quests, and writes the book under Joshua’s name so he can ‘live on’ like Cid.
There’s a lot more but there’s loads of videos explaining why he lives. Main thing for me though is the whole writer subplot.
@wr5488 I have to hope he survived and Jill and him got a happy ending otherwise the ending is crushing emotionally. Either way it's a beautiful ending but one is bittersweet and tragic. the other is happy, I've been on the side he returned given context clues but we never get it confirmed entirely
It's all just a story in a book at the end, and there's a strong possibility none of it actually happened. The world ended was never resolved. Ultima was just playing on leaving with Clives body . Killing Ultima doesn't fix anything if anything it made everything worse because the magic zombies are now uncomfortable with all the crystals destroyed.
I love this game but I was really hoping this dlc would be after the final fight and give Clive a happy ending for once since the last place you see Clive is on the beach it would’ve made perfect sense especially since he promised Jill he would come back for her
I honestly didn’t mind that it was a self contained DLC. I believe a DLC shouldn’t change an ending no matter how controversial it is. Having a paid DLC wrap up a story again would feel like a cop out, so I’m glad they stuck to their guns with this. As I said in the video, I think it’s fine for these DLC to be pretty self contained as a little extra for fans who enjoyed the base game, and it really doesn’t need to be more than that imo. If they added some scenes to the final fight; I believe that would have been preferable. But the ending, for me, was good thematically, and I don’t really care for an ending where everyone lives happily ever after.
@@MoreLimitless_ Fair enough you have your opinion I have mine and I can understand why you would say that and that’s ok. To me personally with all of the messed up stuff that happens in this game with Clive and the others in general I would have preferred if they showed Clive at least making it back after the final fight instead of the gut punch or ambiguity we otherwise would get from FF games where “we make you love these characters so we can kill them or you don’t really know if they’re dead or not but we wanna crush your heart” type of deal. Not really a happy ending for all bc Joshua is dead and the whole world is still in turmoil after all the mother crystals are destroyed and the ending was great but I think Clive should at least have an alternate ending or something showing him making it back alive imo
Ppl complaining bout the price n shit. Bros its a whole new area some new things a whole ne boss fight and not one but TWO new eikon abilities and the second is ridiculous all 4 20 bucks,why are ppl complaining that shit crazy????
But at the same time they could have easily made some kind of connection between her and the assumed extinct Motes of Water
I actually enjoyed this game more than ff7 remake
That’s valid, I think there are certain things that love and hate about both games that really makes me appreciate that they came out within a year from each other. Of course, both games are in my top 5 FF titles.
How? The combat of ff16 is pretty lacking, even with the devil may cry influence(which is one of the best combat systems out there). The game is also missing the final fantasy components which make a typical FF game in the series
@@GottEddy I’m not saying the gameplay was better, I’m just saying I enjoyed the story more than remake.
@@GottEddy ehm...no? The combat system is really good, especially during the end game, the characters, story and lore are way better than those of ff7 rebirth, it's not hard to love 16 more than the remake series. Also this is final fantasy, no doubt about it, it's different not worse
@@cristianoducceschi3547 The combat system is for casuals, there aren't even combos, just the spuare button sequence. Besides summons and monsters the game has nothing to do with Final Fantasy. You can't even use spells like firaga, blizaga, bio, silence, protec, shell, etc...
So does Clive survive at the end or not 🤔
I planning to buy this game, but I wonder if overheating issue is still a thing or its already fixed?
@@thisisme2141 I’ve never had a problem with overheating once. I think that was a result of some people not cleaning their PS5 s but it is not a regular problem amongst the community. If you haven’t played it yet, I definitely recommend the demo first.
I already play the demo for the little time that convience me to play, but i worried that some people encountered overheating from this game when they played at eikon battle.
About ff16’s graphical environments….. they are basically corridors that look nice. I think the area should have been more open world. I do love leviathan’s ranged shotgun since i can burn through stagger gauges and take out mobs easily since it can easily break guards and shields to.
Yes, it's a game that isn't open world but that doesn't take away the fact that the game graphically looks amazing, especially with a blue clear sky back in the game. The area was never going to be open world when the rest of the game is structured as an opened zoned game.
I never got why games HAVE to be open world these days. Just because they have open zones (small or massive) doesn’t mean they are bad. Plus whole open world where everything looks as beautiful as these zones, would be horrible for any console or computer to handle. It’s almost like people say: “only open world games are beautiful and awesome. These non-open world games are nowhere near as good as they should have been. All games have to be open world”. @@MoreLimitless_
Yoshi-P absolutely cooked with this game. And the DLC.
I think 16 is going to have multiple volumes (endings). Right now, we have issues or expansions (DLC) to expand the world and give change to the main story.
I think the story is changing with each and every New Game and new game mode with the expansions. There is going to be newer ones as each boss you approach have different effects on the story along the way.
Great video and great conclusion! 🎉❤ I really hope for more XVI contents, I love this game too much!
Hopefully we get more surprise content post-PC launch!
Ok so quick question? Seeing as ff16 never resolved the world ending part. Does that mean we get a sequel that covers that part? Or is the real ending true and none of events actually happened and everything is just a bedtime story.
Well, its an ambiguous ending left to interpretation. Many believe that the very end credit scene is hundreds or thousands of years into the future which is why the people of Valisthea think magic and Eikons were a fairytale; much like how real history can't accurately say how events in the past thousands of years came to be.
The ending is to show the effects Clive had on the world of Valisthea and drive home that his and Cid's dream was realized in the end; that people can live and die on their own terms without the crystals comfort. It all comes full circle by the end up is left ambiguous so that the players can give their own interpretation of the end, or the events that led up to that point.
@MoreLimitless_ see that's what I don't get. Ultima made a huge slide show showing that he made the crystals, but the world was dying before that point the crystals only speeds up the process. Because we know something or some before, Clive trys and fails to get to Ultima because of the previous spaceship broken around the planet.
My TLDR is if that is true. And we are thousands of years into the future. How did we get there because Ultima's death doesn't fix the blight and Ultima doesn't have the power to fix the blight. Ultima big revelation was he was running from the planet and was going to pull a Genova to get away. what actually resolved the blight?
At this point I am thinking wild stuff like this is all a prequel. And the blight is Genova and this is the planet she used to get to ff7 world and that book is from clouds planet where some one survived and passed the story down lol.
@@pkkiller_apathy4568 Ultima's death doesn't fix the Blight, but Clive completely removed magic by destroying Origin, which means aether stopped being a thing.
The deadlands were places were aether was sucked dry from the land, but since the world didn't need aether anymore, it was just a matter of time before the world evolved again and the deadlands became livable again.
@dinorex3464 I was under the impression that the aether came from the planet? And Ultima created bearers trying to make his vessel? Ultima made it very clear he didn't create the blight it seemed like the blight was the planet trying to fight Ultima in the reverse way it happened on ff7. Where in ff7 the planet used light magic Ultima in this world it used death magic.
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Ultimas Eikon so nice
The new Eikons add even more combo potential than what was already there and I love it.
@@MoreLimitless_ just wished we would have more content now with Ultima and Leviathan. Also a 4th Eikon slot would be awesome. Yes we have that 20 floors content, but wished for more xD need 2 trohpies for rising tiden, then i got every trophy 😆 160 hours here Lol
The only things I liked about the DLC was the Leviathan boss fight and the reveal that the dominant was a baby but other than that, it was pretty meh. It was basically the same thing we got in the main game and no development on anybody. It was kind of like Shula was the star in this DLC than any of the main characters were and she's just a guest character. Sometimes I don't even understand why Joshua and Jill are even required to be there for the DLCs when the developers just sidelined them the whole time. Might as well just let Clive go alone since he's a one man army a lot of the time anyway lmao.
I'm not surprised at all that the developers completely lied about Jill getting anything in the DLC. They already admitted that they knew that the players wanted to see more on other characters other than Clive in the game, so I just knew they were just using Jill in that interview in order to try and gain sales on the DLC. Too bad it didn't work because I actually heard that the DLC didn't even sell much and not many people played it, so it serves them right.
I'm more upset about them lying to the fans about Jill than I am about her not getting anything. I already knew they were lying but it ain't right for them to use Jill as a lure and try to take advantage of the fans like that in order to get more money.
I wouldn’t exactly say they lied, they didn’t say Jill would be the focus, only that if we liked Jill, that there’d be things in this DLC that relate to her. The fans themselves took that as “this means its about her” which is wrong. The devs also already said months before that Clive would still be at the center. Additionally, this is just my opinion, but I think Shula was very good. Yes, she is a guest character, but this is a story about her people and their dominant. It makes sense that they would want to focus on her and the people of Mysidia. Jill had great moments up until the latter half of the game, and Joshua was focused on for the majority of the story with Clive. As for the sales, we don’t really have substantial numbers to go off of right now, so I wouldn’t even worry about that atm.
@@MoreLimitless_ Well I already knew that Clive would be at the center of the story lmao but in that case what I think the developers should've clarified about Jill was that there would not be a focus on her specifically but like you said, just certain things in the DLC that would relate to her and not the focus being on her directly. When they say the word "focus" and then follow up with it being on her specifically then that implies that Jill herself will have her own time to shine, so I think they really should've been more careful with their choice of words about that. So technically they did still lie about her, you still make a good point about Shula though.
In my opinion, the only good moment that Jill had in the game was at the Iron Kingdom. Even then though I still feel like they did her dirty because we don't even get to play as Shiva in the boss fight against that fire humanoid looking monster (I forgot what the name of that boss was called lmao) That was her fight and her only part of the story where she gets an opportunity to step up and she still got sidelined. The Phoenix being playable was no problem for them in not only one but two boss fights in the game, so I feel like there was absolutely no excuse for Shiva to not be playable there, but they had to make a stupid excuse just because she's.... well you know 🙄
As for Joshua, even though he's literally right behind Clive when it comes to importance in the game and maybe wasn't done as dirty as Jill was, I still didn't like how he doesn't get more involved and join in on the story and fight with us until like 70% into the game. They don't even go into detail as to what Joshua was doing for all those years after the Phoenix Gate incident and even kill Joshua off right before the final boss and doesn't get to even fight with Clive. When you consider all of that it sometimes doesn't feel like Joshua is as important as they say even though he is apparently supposed to be.
Btw, please don't take this as me not liking FF16. I actually do like it, it's just that one of the problems that I think this game has and that I think the developers could've done a lot better on it was to make the other main characters a bit more relevant than what they are and have them shine on their own a lot better. I felt awful for all of the other characters in the game because it's like the developers didn't care about any of them except Clive and had too much bias on him, and I feel like literally every character in the game including Joshua merely just existed for Clive's development and that alone just makes them feel sort of irrelevant. You can also tell even more so when you also consider that even on the 5 year time skip, no other character's appearance changed except for Clive's. That's no coincidence imo
Them not clearing up the ambiguous ending and giving clive a W is such a disappointment to me
Good, it’s finally done, unlike stupid 15 that goes on and on. Now we just need to wait patiently for “DMC 7”