Right away goose bumps, when the keyboard started. I really love the melancholy feel of this album. I've never paid attention on the drum sound. For me everything sounds exactly as they should. But, hey, Fugazi and Script were my love at first sight with Marillion.
I still stand by my opinion that Fish was a poet, not a lead singer. I liked the first couple of his solo but after the covers album I hated... And could not get back... Is it worth get looking to do with Fish?
@@benjaminsidneykidd-bentley3966 I have not delved deeply enough into his solo material, and I agree that the covers album was maybe too soon in his solo career. I do like most of what I have heard of his solo work, but like you I am mostly familiar with his earlier solo albums, Vigil In A WIlderness Of Mirrors, which I loved at the time it came out, and Internal Exile which I did not like as much as Vigil.
To understand the lyrics of Fugazi you have to know the context of where we were in 1984 ? Protect and survive leaflets through the letterbox , no jobs to be had , the northern half of the country was being stripped of all hope and most of its industry. Miners strike etc . We, as teenagers were stuck between the threat of no future and nuclear annihilation. “ where were the prophets, where were the visionaries” ?
Fish is on tour at the mo, and I saw perform Fugazi (the track) last night. Amazing how the years roll away! I remembered every last word, and am hoarse today to prove it.
Hermoso álbum lo escucho desde chile..igual lo tengo en vinilo..una de mis joyas.junto a niñas desvalida y también la urraca ladrona..saludos y placer en escuchar y ver opinión de magnífico trabajo....
Thanks for your thoughtful reaction Jim, as always. In order to appreciate and enjoy it more, multiple listens will be required. But, if you want to enjoy them more, you do have to "get over it" as you said. Prog music especially is going to have sounds and styles "of the time". The musicians are exploring every possibility when they are trying to create new, fresh content. Sounds, styles, techniques will be tried until they are fully understood and integrated fully, partially, or not at all. The same with the lyrics. Fish's lyrics are a time capsule of that part of history, just like the music. The artists are reflecting their environment. To enjoy it more, try to let it take you back to that time. I get that there was a certain unpleasant sparkly harshness to a lot of things back then. That was when digital audio first emerged. I was there too. What did you like in the 80s? But don't judge yourself. What kind of clothes did you wear? What music moved you? How did you feel about life and the world? I'll bet you will find some points of recognition. In context this was a great progressive album, if not their best. Of its time, yet different from most everything else on offer. Prog was nowhere near as fashionable back then.
Thanks Jim like being 17 again .think it’s been said the band did remaster it on cd and it’s so much better along the lines you mentioned. There’s a cover band called still marillion who mostly do the fish era songs and there a great bunch and very good
wow Jim, I love the special visual effect you did ! and this music reminds me of my american friend Pete, he used to make a Marillion podcast around 15 years ago. Those podcasts are long vanished in the web's void. I still would like to hear Fish on your channel and-or more Marillion please !
I grew up on this stuff, so I can sort of forgive the production. But yes it is very 80s sounding, I recently heard the new remastered version and it sounds much better. At the end of the day, the songs and lyrics are great. THIS WORLD IS TOTALLY FUGAZI... so true right now
Hi jim , found your review on fugazi so i subscribed. Just want to say go and listen to clutching at straws. Its my favourite album of all time. It is of its time , and i have grown up with it from the day it was released but i listen to all types of music and i love this one the most . I just think everyone should hear this album at least once in there life time .....stunning!! Oh i really enjoyed the stream , thank you ✌
Jim - that what youve stated while the Incubus Solo is totally true - i hear it since the album was released - and it stayed with me and will be forever
I grew up with this album not the other Marillion albums, apart from Misplaced Childhood I suppose, so I don't hear this album as dated but if you never heard this at the time it was released I can see how it comes across as very much of it's time. The lyrics are incredibly poetic.
For the record I love the drums on this album. Three brilliant tracks off an album missed by so many. Fugazi means all fucked up hence the lyrical direction. How a band could get two of the best lyricists and vocalists ever I will never know but Marillion knew that a band without a decent vocalist wouldn’t succeed. To succeed with nurturing Genesis and Floyd fans they also knew we required stories to be told. Jim, we play this loud so every time you speak my flat explodes a bit more. Am I missing a leveller button? Great album and I hope you enjoy it more with further time spent with it.
You would really like their live album - Thieving Magpie double album, as the drums are live! the Gazza Ladra first track is perfect! My favorite album was Script of a Jester;s Tear, then clutching at straws.... The lyrics for He knows You Know are priceless... The image of the mad jester capture Fish's madness in the music. The organ intro to Garden Party is stunning!!!
In my experience, both back in the 80's and now, admitting to liking Marillion was/ is looked down on. That said, I suspect this attitude comes from people who only know Kayleigh and think that's a good example of their material. The Fish era of Marillion had a strong sense of anger and frustration against the social inequality and leaders of that time (Thatcher & Reagan). The final studio with Fish (Clutching at Straws), was a more personal album, as it also looks at substance abuse and the trappings of fame. You might also be interested in "B-sides themselves", which contains Marillion's B-sides (surprise!),. This includes "Grendel", an 18 minute long epic based on Beowulf.
Thanks once again Jim, I think it is worth giving the recent remix a go, it is considerably better, far more dynamic. According to the “setlist” site, I was at the gig when they played Incubus for the last time (NEC, 22nd December 1987)
Great reaction Jim! I am new to your channel. Love your content! Has anyone ever said that you resemble Simon Pegg. When you sipped your tea in this video all I could think about was going to the Winchester, having a pint and waiting for this whole thing to blow over. :)
Hi Jim, while I can appreciate the first 2 Marillion albums but they really came into their own in the Fish era with Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws. I now pretty much only listen to the Hogarth stuff. Afraid of Sunlight being my favorite, but I have enjoy all of them. Some better than others of course. Thanks for the great reaction.
I'm pretty much the same way, and "Afraid of Sunlight" is indeed a creative masterpiece. Started with the Fish albums in the 80s, but now I listen to only the Hogarth albums and concert videos. Hearing "Fugazi" again decades later, Fish's singing just sounds irritating to me. The shrieking "I'm the mote in your eye eye eye eye" bit in "Incubus" actually sounded conically bad hearing it again. I need to go crank up the Albert Hall concert and wash the Fish out of my ears now.
Maybe because it's first Marillion album I heard and grew up with, it has always been my favourite. To me, it's got a good mixture of Marillion being a rock band who can write a song with a hook, and a prog band who can develop a song; when this balance shifts too far one way (Holidays in Eden - bit too lightweight for me/ FEAR not enough hooks for me) I like the albums less. Always love your videos by the way - quality!
Bought this when it first came out. Remember standing in line in Woolworths clutching this album, when a hairy biker strode up. "Great choice son. Go and see them live!" Sadly never did. Honestly never noticed any production issues that you mentioned.
Hi Jim - I am new to this channel, digging through your videos, as this is so much in my taste the stuff you listen to. Regarding the sound of Fugazi - new "deluxe" 4 LP version sounds so much better in terms of this synthetic sounding drums. Same with "Script For A Jester's Tear" - big improvement compared to original. Orthodox fans or vinyl collectors may say I am swearing but as Marillion being my all time number one band I prefer those new issues. Just more pleasant to listen. And Steve Rothery must be the most underrated guitar player of all time. Well, for me the whole band was/is. I follow Fish's career too, own most of his albums, but I love "H" era as well. Wish you all the best and keep up great work. Greetings from Poland!
I've heard that the band first heard the finished product of the album and thought they were hearing an early production only to be informed that it was the finished product and couldn't do anything about it. Because they were dissapointed
1980's production.....There's not enough "oommf" !! I'm a massive fan of Rush and their mid 1980's albums had production that was way too light (if you get my drift). The venom in Fish's vocal delivery always pleases.... I haven't a clue whether the remix release of this sounds better or not ?? I still think it's a cracking album and this video saves me playing it in the car..... The Real to Reel live album has some of these songs on it....well worth a listen
Hey Jim - Glad to see you’re diving into their early stuff! (Also, I wish I could keep up with your videos more - life is full.) I agree with the production comments, particularly on the drum sounds. You may like their collection of live performances with Fish (The Thieving Magpie - La Gazza Ladra) - on Fugazi the drums are better and the bass is more forward in the mix. Also no fade-outs. ;) I also think Fish is more effective live anyway. It has the whole of Misplaced Childhood too. With Fugazi I feel like we see Fish’s lyrical skills come online with surgically precise phrasing to match the emotions present in Script. Then in Misplaced we see personal storytelling come online and the emotional range increase. I find Steve H. to be a better technical singer and able to convey a wider range of emotions than Fish, but I think Fish is better at wordplay and certain emotions (righteous anger, bitter sarcasm, and personal broken-ness a la Clutching at Straws). You may enjoy Fish’s solo album Sunsets on Empire, written with Steven Wilson. Wilson also played guitar. I think this is where Fish fully separated himself from the Marillion sound. Cheers!
I was a fan when this came out and first saw them at Reading “83 before this album came out. The sound on this album was always a bone of contention but live they sounded amazing, they were always a fantastic live band and still are. The new remix is better but there’s only so much you can do. Check out the live stuff to get the real Marillion but glad you enjoyed the album. Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws are so much better
Mr.Newstead sir it's all subjective. I was at first disappointed to hear your criticisms as I have been lost in the fish marillion rabbit hole for close to forty years now I can't say enough about how much I love these guys. Ive seen them twice with Hogarth and I've seen fish as well. They are in my top four favorite bands.💚💚💚💚💚💚
Yes we don't like fadeouts :) I had not listened to this album in 20+ years. I sat down and went through the first 3 albums with my son to show him what music should be, used to be and what a poet Fish is.
You said, regarding how bad everything in the world is; "There is so much more happening in life and in the news.." Yes. This. I don't see the last track on this album as a failure to provide those people. I see it as a calling card. An invitation to go and do better in the world. Maybe I'm reading between totally unwritten lines incorrectly. The world is clearly Fugazi, and ain't none of us going to fix it but us. 🥰
That was a fun journey into my past. She Chameleon is a fine performance but the subject matter is a bit childish. Not really Fish's fault. I enjoyed it at the time but I've lived nearly forty years since then and the song remains trapped in late adolescence. Incubus is still magnificent, certainly one of the best of this era of Marillion. A song about revenge porn somewhat ahead of its time. As much as I admire Fish's facility with words, he rarely touches me emotionally in the way that Steve Hogarth can do. Part Alex Harvey, part Laurence Olivier's Richard III in his delivery, I think he is much more effective when he picks a subject and skewers it than when he indulges in excavating the sludgy confines of his own head. The first part of Fugazi is a beautifully pointed observation piece, much as Chelsea Monday was on the debut album. As to the second part of the song, nothing quite dates it to the 1980's as much as the subject of imminent Nuclear Armageddon. It was more or less de rigueur at the time. I think Steve Rothery was using his Roland synth guitar on the majority of this album, so he was very much embracing the technology of the age as well. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong about that.
Hey Jim! I'm really curious how you will like their (now) latest album F.E.A.R. To me, one of their strongest albums, with a few of my very favourite Marillion songs. Would be thrilled to see you do a vinyl listen! :)
I know this album so well, but it was great to listen to it again as you picked up lots of things I never have! I guess it's true what you say about it sounding dated, but I find it so hard to tell, because these 4 Marillion albums with Fish are part of my DNA. I saw them on this tour, my first ever 'big' gig, so I guess that makes me pretty dated too!
If you consider the genius of the doors, its the ability of the bad to work around Jims Poetry, this side, Fugazi particularly, is just so masterful word-craft, the lyrics from fish are just beyond. I put him up there w Morrison and Dylan. You listen to fish solo, the power of the poetry / (prose i guess? actually) is still present where Marillion, just lost that lyrical power and creativity when Fish Left.
Mr.Newstead the drumming is just fine,classic music is timeless. I certainly hope you refrain from such criticisms of Rush and LED Zeppelin with their legendary drummers. I like some of Hogarth era marillion but I love fish era marillion.Thank you for your wonderful reactions and have a great day good sir.🧡🤎🧡🤎🧡🤎
I don't think I want a re-recording! One of the albums strenct is its special sound!! Of course it sounds 80's, but very much in its own way! A fantastic record!! Everything about it sets it apart from the rest of the catalogue!!
For me, Marillion's pinnacle was Clutching at Straws. I absolutely love the 1999 remaster, but cannot stand the remixed production from 2018 - a complete disaster, to my ears anyway 😉 Fugazi is well worth another listen, that's for sure.
How was it received? Well, there was quite a resurgence of progressive rock in the 80s' - Yes had "Owner of a Lonely Heart", you had huge records out from Asia, lots of lesser known acts that did amazing work like iQ, Pallas, Arena, Saga, etc. Marillion was a large part of that renaissance. So I'd say that it was incredibly well-received considering that this sort of music just doesn't fit the radio mix (or short attention spans!) very well. ;) Marillion was big enough to pull headline gigs at some of the huge Euro festivals back then. They didn't really break big here in the States, but that was probably always a pipe dream anyway.
Preferred the Fish vocals when he manages to sing in a more melodic fashion like on Misplaced childhood... A bit shouty on Fugazi.. Still Punch and Judy was a great single !
To be honest, the general populus knew nothing about Marillion apart from Kayleigh and Lavender. Maybe a few discovered their albums after the single success but apart from Misplaced Childhood, I reckon most people hadn't explored their other albums. BTW Ian Mosely on drums came on board for Fugazi and onwards after working with Steve Hackett and is a lovely drummer, irrespective of the dynamics on this particular recording.
Intersting..for me its the opposite..Fugazi is my no1 album of all times...While CaS is by faaar the weakest of the 4..because it's weak middle section JftR, WR, Incommunicado and Torch Song..but that's just my opinion.
Hi, sometimes remixed versions are for the best. The Fugazi remixed version is a perfect exemple of it. This version correct the major problem of the drums. But maybe you didn’t know about this mixing problem. They were quite unhappy with the mix back then. It was too late too correct the mixing of this album. The record company want to put it on sale very quick. The 2021 Steven Wilson’s rework is so much better… It has more of the depth and the dynamic range that this one lacks so much
I love the way you have covered some of my most favorite bands like NIGHTWISH,marillion and fish. Have you ever checked out ayreon or Jeff Wayne's war of the world or Alan Parsons project's debut album tales of mystery and imagination. For something different I highly recommend the Dead South in hell I'll be in good company. Thanks for the great content 😺😺😺😺😺😺
So I’m about 14::42 into your video and I finally hear a Rothery solo and it sounds good but on the whole I really do not like this at all, you kinda mirror my thoughts on Marillion if I’d experienced this when it was released and I was a fan back then I would hold this nostalgically close to my heart. Bass playing is always good the keys are stuck in that 80’s sound for me the guitar playing is also dated and lacks that true feel I get from Rothery’s later recordings and I still can’t get on board vocally with Fish just don’t like his voice Look this up for me at 22:20 there’s a atmospheric section of music that could be taken out of Queens Flash Gordon sound track it’s so remarkably similar. Going back to the drums I never thought about how dated and bad the sound was until you pointed it out I thought they were fitting for this record of it’s time but now the just sound lifeless- dead! I like Assassin do not like the rest of the album or the singing at all however I think Fish beautifully laments his poetry upon a brilliant band that were about to get better. BTW your comments about the Keys I’m sure I said in the first vid that this album was a Mark Kelly led album he’s the albums hero.
@@JimNewstead Thought you’d agree I can’t remember where on the soundtrack it appears it was probably one of the musical interludes can’t remember the titles torture chamber or something I’d have to painfully sit thru that album again to find it but that sound sure did spook me…. I’ve heard Flash Gordon was a wacko film nothing like today’s avengers in my young mind I confuse Flash Gordon with the wizard of oz they both had some kinda flying creatures never watched them but they still around in pop culture
You cant really moan about 80s sounding drums on an 80s album ;) Love your channel though and big Marillion fan here :) I actually prefer POST fish Marillion if I am honest! Marillion at Royal Albert Hall with Hogarth absolutely amazing performances!
I know I really prefer h . (I do own up to giving my daughter the name Kaleigh!) Jim yep agree with everything you say about this album I really do not like it....clutching at straws is much better then Fish left and Steve H came in and blew me away... Seasons End is a great album even though it's h first. And Berlin my fav song although Season end the song shows how long Marillion was talking about the enviroment... As Lucy their manager has people that say Marillion are jumping on the bandwagon of the climate change, well they wrote season end in 19891 so they can f**k off. Also Costa Del slough also about climate change.... But no I do prefer Mr H. Marillion went up several knockes as they keep going. I'm been still blown away by An hour before its dark. Personally I think Fish is more a poet than a singer inmho.
Love Incubus and Fugazi. First track - not so much. Hope you look into doing a reaction to Grendel - this is regularly sidestepped by reactors on YT, If you do, might I suggest this lovely lyric video - great visuals, and always helps to see the lyrics in such an epic song Link: ua-cam.com/video/fdhDj8aFzrA/v-deo.html Great reaction btw.
More dynamic drums? Well, I think it's just part of the sound and magic of this record! - Why I like it so much! The only thing I want to mention is the snare-drum. - Too much reverb!
Not the best of their albums, but still a pretty decent difficult 2nd album where they keep to the prog'ish style from Script. Still its been played almost as many times as Script to the point its a miracle both (original vinyl) albums isn't worn out. :D Misplaced Childhood is quite the good album too, just a tad bored with the sound and the hits. :P
Right away goose bumps, when the keyboard started. I really love the melancholy feel of this album. I've never paid attention on the drum sound. For me everything sounds exactly as they should. But, hey, Fugazi and Script were my love at first sight with Marillion.
Yeaa!! Dont change a winning team!!
Love Fish's vocal delivery; theatrical and dramatic.
The lyrics to the song Fugazi and a few others by Fish are some of my favorite lyrics by anyone.
I still stand by my opinion that Fish was a poet, not a lead singer. I liked the first couple of his solo but after the covers album I hated... And could not get back... Is it worth get looking to do with Fish?
@@benjaminsidneykidd-bentley3966 I have not delved deeply enough into his solo material, and I agree that the covers album was maybe too soon in his solo career. I do like most of what I have heard of his solo work, but like you I am mostly familiar with his earlier solo albums, Vigil In A WIlderness Of Mirrors, which I loved at the time it came out, and Internal Exile which I did not like as much as Vigil.
Fish is one of the most amazing lyricists the music industry has ever seen. I've loved this album since the day they released it.
Fish sings in a different way than any other at tha time, he sort of spits out the words. The art on the covers is done by Mark Wilkinson.
To understand the lyrics of Fugazi you have to know the context of where we were in 1984 ? Protect and survive leaflets through the letterbox , no jobs to be had , the northern half of the country was being stripped of all hope and most of its industry. Miners strike etc . We, as teenagers were stuck between the threat of no future and nuclear annihilation. “ where were the prophets, where were the visionaries” ?
Just love "Fugazi" ! ... in my opinion, the best Marillion's album.
I bought it in 1985, as soon it was released here in Brazil.
Wow! Imagine an album recorded in the mid 80's having a mid 80's drum sound. How dare they.
How flipping amazing Incubus was live back then. This 60 year old is feeling young again listening in. Wonderful memories!
Fish is on tour at the mo, and I saw perform Fugazi (the track) last night. Amazing how the years roll away! I remembered every last word, and am hoarse today to prove it.
Słuchałem tej płyty może ze 100 razy, i za każdym razem jest to dla mnie płyta doskonała.
Hermoso álbum lo escucho desde chile..igual lo tengo en vinilo..una de mis joyas.junto a niñas desvalida y también la urraca ladrona..saludos y placer en escuchar y ver opinión de magnífico trabajo....
You might want to check out the recently-released remix of this album--it ameliorates the gated/compressed/loud-as-hell drum sound a bit.
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Love it....wonderful old days ❤️
Thanks for your thoughtful reaction Jim, as always. In order to appreciate and enjoy it more, multiple listens will be required. But, if you want to enjoy them more, you do have to "get over it" as you said. Prog music especially is going to have sounds and styles "of the time". The musicians are exploring every possibility when they are trying to create new, fresh content. Sounds, styles, techniques will be tried until they are fully understood and integrated fully, partially, or not at all. The same with the lyrics. Fish's lyrics are a time capsule of that part of history, just like the music. The artists are reflecting their environment. To enjoy it more, try to let it take you back to that time. I get that there was a certain unpleasant sparkly harshness to a lot of things back then. That was when digital audio first emerged. I was there too. What did you like in the 80s? But don't judge yourself. What kind of clothes did you wear? What music moved you? How did you feel about life and the world? I'll bet you will find some points of recognition. In context this was a great progressive album, if not their best. Of its time, yet different from most everything else on offer. Prog was nowhere near as fashionable back then.
Genialna po prostu genialna płyta.
Thank you for this Masterpiece
Love this album so much, dark but inspired, passionate and flawless. As for the 80s drum sound, yes they were drowned in reverb back then 😉
Hello Jim. Montreal live... À jewel! Greetings from France!
Thanks Jim like being 17 again .think it’s been said the band did remaster it on cd and it’s so much better along the lines you mentioned. There’s a cover band called still marillion who mostly do the fish era songs and there a great bunch and very good
wow Jim, I love the special visual effect you did ! and this music reminds me of my american friend Pete, he used to make a Marillion podcast around 15 years ago. Those podcasts are long vanished in the web's void. I still would like to hear Fish on your channel and-or more Marillion please !
Sometimes, when the mood takes me and I have enough time, it’s good fun to put in some effects and liven things up!
Saw them on this tour, I was 13 it was the first gig I went to alone...not metal enough for my mates...they REALLY missed out
The recent remix...blows the original out of the water.
I grew up on this stuff, so I can sort of forgive the production. But yes it is very 80s sounding, I recently heard the new remastered version and it sounds much better. At the end of the day, the songs and lyrics are great.
THIS WORLD IS TOTALLY FUGAZI... so true right now
Loved the needle crackle. Like the old days.
My fav band from the very first beginning! Wonderful album this one with Incubus and the titelsong as true epics!
Hi jim , found your review on fugazi so i subscribed. Just want to say go and listen to clutching at straws. Its my favourite album of all time. It is of its time , and i have grown up with it from the day it was released but i listen to all types of music and i love this one the most . I just think everyone should hear this album at least once in there life time .....stunning!! Oh i really enjoyed the stream , thank you ✌
And may I add how you were glued to the liner notes during fugazi is a testament to how amazing Fish's word craft really is. You said ASTONISHING
Jim - that what youve stated while the Incubus Solo is totally true - i hear it since the album was released - and it stayed with me and will be forever
Ahhh, I love Fugazi (the band), that's reason enough to give this a try!
I grew up with this album not the other Marillion albums, apart from Misplaced Childhood I suppose, so I don't hear this album as dated but if you never heard this at the time it was released I can see how it comes across as very much of it's time. The lyrics are incredibly poetic.
For the record I love the drums on this album. Three brilliant tracks off an album missed by so many. Fugazi means all fucked up hence the lyrical direction. How a band could get two of the best lyricists and vocalists ever I will never know but Marillion knew that a band without a decent vocalist wouldn’t succeed.
To succeed with nurturing Genesis and Floyd fans they also knew we required stories to be told.
Jim, we play this loud so every time you speak my flat explodes a bit more. Am I missing a leveller button? Great album and I hope you enjoy it more with further time spent with it.
Actually fugazi is not an adjective but a noun, short for fucked-up-situation
Incubus is THE song there, a masterpiece and one of Fish favorite…good memories of my 19 yrs old when I bought Fugazi
I was 18 when this came out - loved it!!
You would really like their live album - Thieving Magpie double album, as the drums are live! the Gazza Ladra first track is perfect!
My favorite album was Script of a Jester;s Tear, then clutching at straws.... The lyrics for He knows You Know are priceless... The image of the mad jester capture Fish's madness in the music. The organ intro to Garden Party is stunning!!!
They're there. But they're, on the whole, powerless.
In my experience, both back in the 80's and now, admitting to liking Marillion was/ is looked down on.
That said, I suspect this attitude comes from people who only know Kayleigh and think that's a good example of their material.
The Fish era of Marillion had a strong sense of anger and frustration against the social inequality and leaders of that time (Thatcher & Reagan).
The final studio with Fish (Clutching at Straws), was a more personal album, as it also looks at substance abuse and the trappings of fame.
You might also be interested in "B-sides themselves", which contains Marillion's B-sides (surprise!),.
This includes "Grendel", an 18 minute long epic based on Beowulf.
Originally the anti-Marillion sentiment was based on the very fact of them being [neo-]prog
Thanks once again Jim, I think it is worth giving the recent remix a go, it is considerably better, far more dynamic.
According to the “setlist” site, I was at the gig when they played Incubus for the last time (NEC, 22nd December 1987)
Great album!Bo so it can be said about all 4 fish's Marillion albums! Side B also slightly better for me then A.
Great reaction Jim! I am new to your channel. Love your content! Has anyone ever said that you resemble Simon Pegg. When you sipped your tea in this video all I could think about was going to the Winchester, having a pint and waiting for this whole thing to blow over. :)
Hi Jim, while I can appreciate the first 2 Marillion albums but they really came into their own in the Fish era with Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws.
I now pretty much only listen to the Hogarth stuff. Afraid of Sunlight being my favorite, but I have enjoy all of them. Some better than others of course.
Thanks for the great reaction.
I'm pretty much the same way, and "Afraid of Sunlight" is indeed a creative masterpiece. Started with the Fish albums in the 80s, but now I listen to only the Hogarth albums and concert videos. Hearing "Fugazi" again decades later, Fish's singing just sounds irritating to me. The shrieking "I'm the mote in your eye eye eye eye" bit in "Incubus" actually sounded conically bad hearing it again. I need to go crank up the Albert Hall concert and wash the Fish out of my ears now.
Me too, in my humble opinion Marillion is better with h.
Probably because with Fish it was like him and the band, while h is part of the band. Imho
@@benjaminsidneykidd-bentley3966 Very interesting. I 'left' Marrilion post Fish. Maybe I should have another look.
Maybe because it's first Marillion album I heard and grew up with, it has always been my favourite. To me, it's got a good mixture of Marillion being a rock band who can write a song with a hook, and a prog band who can develop a song; when this balance shifts too far one way (Holidays in Eden - bit too lightweight for me/ FEAR not enough hooks for me) I like the albums less. Always love your videos by the way - quality!
Bought this when it first came out. Remember standing in line in Woolworths clutching this album, when a hairy biker strode up. "Great choice son. Go and see them live!" Sadly never did. Honestly never noticed any production issues that you mentioned.
I guess because I didn’t hear this album at the time it was released, I’m listening with ears now attuned to modern production styles.
Many shades of The Wall in Emerald Lies too
Ian Mosley used a Yamaha 9000 back then. His kit always sounded the same live so I guess it was his preferred mixfor his kit.
A good album. Clutching at straws is the number one Fish album in my opinion and two thirds of Misplaced childhood.
Highly recommend listening to Clutching at Straws. Better production and more mature lyrics.
Hi Jim - I am new to this channel, digging through your videos, as this is so much in my taste the stuff you listen to. Regarding the sound of Fugazi - new "deluxe" 4 LP version sounds so much better in terms of this synthetic sounding drums. Same with "Script For A Jester's Tear" - big improvement compared to original. Orthodox fans or vinyl collectors may say I am swearing but as Marillion being my all time number one band I prefer those new issues. Just more pleasant to listen. And Steve Rothery must be the most underrated guitar player of all time. Well, for me the whole band was/is. I follow Fish's career too, own most of his albums, but I love "H" era as well. Wish you all the best and keep up great work. Greetings from Poland!
Hi there 👋 and thanks for dropping by! Enjoying rediscovering Marillion a lot. Loads more to hear!
Fugazi is a song as relevant lyrically today as it was back then . Fish is a true poet of his age.
I've heard that the band first heard the finished product of the album and thought they were hearing an early production only to be informed that it was the finished product and couldn't do anything about it. Because they were dissapointed
I always had wished these guys had been more well know in the US! They were and still are one of my favorite bands……
1980's production.....There's not enough "oommf" !! I'm a massive fan of Rush and their mid 1980's albums had production that was way too light (if you get my drift). The venom in Fish's vocal delivery always pleases....
I haven't a clue whether the remix release of this sounds better or not ??
I still think it's a cracking album and this video saves me playing it in the car.....
The Real to Reel live album has some of these songs on it....well worth a listen
Hey Jim - Glad to see you’re diving into their early stuff! (Also, I wish I could keep up with your videos more - life is full.)
I agree with the production comments, particularly on the drum sounds. You may like their collection of live performances with Fish (The Thieving Magpie - La Gazza Ladra) - on Fugazi the drums are better and the bass is more forward in the mix. Also no fade-outs. ;) I also think Fish is more effective live anyway. It has the whole of Misplaced Childhood too.
With Fugazi I feel like we see Fish’s lyrical skills come online with surgically precise phrasing to match the emotions present in Script. Then in Misplaced we see personal storytelling come online and the emotional range increase.
I find Steve H. to be a better technical singer and able to convey a wider range of emotions than Fish, but I think Fish is better at wordplay and certain emotions (righteous anger, bitter sarcasm, and personal broken-ness a la Clutching at Straws).
You may enjoy Fish’s solo album Sunsets on Empire, written with Steven Wilson. Wilson also played guitar. I think this is where Fish fully separated himself from the Marillion sound.
Cheers!
I was a fan when this came out and first saw them at Reading “83 before this album came out. The sound on this album was always a bone of contention but live they sounded amazing, they were always a fantastic live band and still are. The new remix is better but there’s only so much you can do. Check out the live stuff to get the real Marillion but glad you enjoyed the album. Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws are so much better
Mr.Newstead sir it's all subjective. I was at first disappointed to hear your criticisms as I have been lost in the fish marillion rabbit hole for close to forty years now I can't say enough about how much I love these guys. Ive seen them twice with Hogarth and I've seen fish as well. They are in my top four favorite bands.💚💚💚💚💚💚
I see what you did with the picture on She Chamelion "Watch the Lizard"!
Yes we don't like fadeouts :) I had not listened to this album in 20+ years. I sat down and went through the first 3 albums with my son to show him what music should be, used to be and what a poet Fish is.
Andy Bradfield and Avril mackintosh did a recent remix!! Sounds great. Better drumsound too!
Someone please explain to me what this album is about. I don't know English well enough to understand these lyrics
The fade-out... the cop-out solution to finishing a song...
I’ll stick to my comments of side one.
I’ve heard this great album many times since the eighties.
Clutching at straws next?
The lyrics here, though. 🧐
The music is amazing, and Rothery is exceptional as expected.
But those words.
Those words.
You said, regarding how bad everything in the world is; "There is so much more happening in life and in the news.."
Yes. This.
I don't see the last track on this album as a failure to provide those people.
I see it as a calling card. An invitation to go and do better in the world.
Maybe I'm reading between totally unwritten lines incorrectly.
The world is clearly Fugazi, and ain't none of us going to fix it but us. 🥰
That was a fun journey into my past. She Chameleon is a fine performance but the subject matter is a bit childish. Not really Fish's fault. I enjoyed it at the time but I've lived nearly forty years since then and the song remains trapped in late adolescence. Incubus is still magnificent, certainly one of the best of this era of Marillion. A song about revenge porn somewhat ahead of its time. As much as I admire Fish's facility with words, he rarely touches me emotionally in the way that Steve Hogarth can do. Part Alex Harvey, part Laurence Olivier's Richard III in his delivery, I think he is much more effective when he picks a subject and skewers it than when he indulges in excavating the sludgy confines of his own head. The first part of Fugazi is a beautifully pointed observation piece, much as Chelsea Monday was on the debut album. As to the second part of the song, nothing quite dates it to the 1980's as much as the subject of imminent Nuclear Armageddon. It was more or less de rigueur at the time. I think Steve Rothery was using his Roland synth guitar on the majority of this album, so he was very much embracing the technology of the age as well. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong about that.
Hey Jim!
I'm really curious how you will like their (now) latest album F.E.A.R. To me, one of their strongest albums, with a few of my very favourite Marillion songs. Would be thrilled to see you do a vinyl listen! :)
It’s on the to do list! 👍🏼
@@JimNewstead Awesome!!
I like how fugazi is pronounced in Donnie Brasco!😎 Mmmm not my bag this album but enjoyed listening.
I love this album. Also the Nursing a an Erection edit was far too funny to me😂
Jim you know IQ? Please check the live version Enemy Smacks 1993 in Kleve.
No…. It’s yet another I need to explore. And Big Big Train, and RPWL, and Bent Knee, and a million others….. so much music!
I know this album so well, but it was great to listen to it again as you picked up lots of things I never have! I guess it's true what you say about it sounding dated, but I find it so hard to tell, because these 4 Marillion albums with Fish are part of my DNA. I saw them on this tour, my first ever 'big' gig, so I guess that makes me pretty dated too!
If you consider the genius of the doors, its the ability of the bad to work around Jims Poetry, this side, Fugazi particularly, is just so masterful word-craft, the lyrics from fish are just beyond. I put him up there w Morrison and Dylan. You listen to fish solo, the power of the poetry / (prose i guess? actually) is still present where Marillion, just lost that lyrical power and creativity when Fish Left.
I agree on the recording. If only they had had someone like Alan Parsons involved!
If only!!!
Fish era was the best
Have you listened to Script for a jester's tear yet?
Nope. But I have it!
Incubus solo by Rothery and Jim talks through it!!🤫
Mr.Newstead the drumming is just fine,classic music is timeless. I certainly hope you refrain from such criticisms of Rush and LED Zeppelin with their legendary drummers. I like some of Hogarth era marillion but I love fish era marillion.Thank you for your wonderful reactions and have a great day good sir.🧡🤎🧡🤎🧡🤎
I would never criticise the drummer.
I don't think I want a re-recording! One of the albums strenct is its special sound!! Of course it sounds 80's, but very much in its own way! A fantastic record!! Everything about it sets it apart from the rest of the catalogue!!
For me, Marillion's pinnacle was Clutching at Straws. I absolutely love the 1999 remaster, but cannot stand the remixed production from 2018 - a complete disaster, to my ears anyway 😉
Fugazi is well worth another listen, that's for sure.
FUGAZI - first 2 letters are a clue
How was it received? Well, there was quite a resurgence of progressive rock in the 80s' - Yes had "Owner of a Lonely Heart", you had huge records out from Asia, lots of lesser known acts that did amazing work like iQ, Pallas, Arena, Saga, etc. Marillion was a large part of that renaissance. So I'd say that it was incredibly well-received considering that this sort of music just doesn't fit the radio mix (or short attention spans!) very well. ;)
Marillion was big enough to pull headline gigs at some of the huge Euro festivals back then. They didn't really break big here in the States, but that was probably always a pipe dream anyway.
Here we go again let’s see if I like anything on this? Never have before but can’t wait to hear this and enjoy it or un-enjoy it with you
I’ll wait and see what you think!
Preferred the Fish vocals when he manages to sing in a more melodic fashion like on Misplaced childhood... A bit shouty on Fugazi.. Still Punch and Judy was a great single !
Jim 🤪🥰👍👏
Nice edits to the beat XD
Thanks for noticing!
To be honest, the general populus knew nothing about Marillion apart from Kayleigh and Lavender. Maybe a few discovered their albums after the single success but apart from Misplaced Childhood, I reckon most people hadn't explored their other albums.
BTW Ian Mosely on drums came on board for Fugazi and onwards after working with Steve Hackett and is a lovely drummer, irrespective of the dynamics on this particular recording.
Does not sound dated when you known it from release. 80s were good tho😃
Nice reaction 👍🏻
For me this is the least good album of Marillion with Fish. Clutching at Straws is my number one, then Misplaced Childhood...
Intersting..for me its the opposite..Fugazi is my no1 album of all times...While CaS is by faaar the weakest of the 4..because it's weak middle section JftR, WR, Incommunicado and Torch Song..but that's just my opinion.
You should listen to the 2021 remix!!!!
Sounds so much better!!!!
Talking in the final part of Incubus is a crime from your side
Hi, sometimes remixed versions are for the best. The Fugazi remixed version is a perfect exemple of it. This version correct the major problem of the drums.
But maybe you didn’t know about this mixing problem.
They were quite unhappy with the mix back then. It was too late too correct the mixing of this album. The record company want to put it on sale very quick.
The 2021 Steven Wilson’s rework is so much better… It has more of the depth and the dynamic range that this one lacks so much
I love the way you have covered some of my most favorite bands like NIGHTWISH,marillion and fish. Have you ever checked out ayreon or Jeff Wayne's war of the world or Alan Parsons project's debut album tales of mystery and imagination. For something different I highly recommend the Dead South in hell I'll be in good company. Thanks for the great content 😺😺😺😺😺😺
I actually like the sound of the drums on this album. But I'm a guy who doesn't know much....
You need at least two more cameras. One above you, and another at a suitably artistic alternative viewing angle.
Do I? It’s going to get like a proper TV production if I’m not careful!!!
So I’m about 14::42 into your video and I finally hear a Rothery solo and it sounds good but on the whole I really do not like this at all, you kinda mirror my thoughts on Marillion if I’d experienced this when it was released and I was a fan back then I would hold this nostalgically close to my heart. Bass playing is always good the keys are stuck in that 80’s sound for me the guitar playing is also dated and lacks that true feel I get from Rothery’s later recordings and I still can’t get on board vocally with Fish just don’t like his voice Look this up for me at 22:20 there’s a atmospheric section of music that could be taken out of Queens Flash Gordon sound track it’s so remarkably similar. Going back to the drums I never thought about how dated and bad the sound was until you pointed it out I thought they were fitting for this record of it’s time but now the just sound lifeless- dead! I like Assassin do not like the rest of the album or the singing at all however I think Fish beautifully laments his poetry upon a brilliant band that were about to get better.
BTW your comments about the Keys I’m sure I said in the first vid that this album was a Mark Kelly led album he’s the albums hero.
You’re right about that sounding similar to Queen’s Flash Gordon (“Gordon’s alive!” is one of my favourite movie quotes!!!)
@@JimNewstead Thought you’d agree I can’t remember where on the soundtrack it appears it was probably one of the musical interludes can’t remember the titles torture chamber or something I’d have to painfully sit thru that album again to find it but that sound sure did spook me…. I’ve heard Flash Gordon was a wacko film nothing like today’s avengers in my young mind I confuse Flash Gordon with the wizard of oz they both had some kinda flying creatures never watched them but they still around in pop culture
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I don't understand what's your problem with Ian Moseley's drumming is? It was his first album with Marillion, he did great work on it.
I just vant to recommend a new album for you that i am pretty certain you will fall in love with. Shamblemaths 2.
You cant really moan about 80s sounding drums on an 80s album ;) Love your channel though and big Marillion fan here :)
I actually prefer POST fish Marillion if I am honest!
Marillion at Royal Albert Hall with Hogarth absolutely amazing performances!
Yeah I know, but maybe it’s me. I just don’t like that 80s sound.
I so want to love their early stuff because I love them so much now but it just isn't happening 😒
It’s a different band, just the same name!
Get some lemsip Jim🤧
Achoo 🤧!!!
Listen to real to reel mate live album
I know I really prefer h . (I do own up to giving my daughter the name Kaleigh!)
Jim yep agree with everything you say about this album I really do not like it....clutching at straws is much better then Fish left and Steve H came in and blew me away... Seasons End is a great album even though it's h first. And Berlin my fav song although Season end the song shows how long Marillion was talking about the enviroment... As Lucy their manager has people that say Marillion are jumping on the bandwagon of the climate change, well they wrote season end in 19891 so they can f**k off. Also Costa Del slough also about climate change....
But no I do prefer Mr H.
Marillion went up several knockes as they keep going. I'm been still blown away by An hour before its dark.
Personally I think Fish is more a poet than a singer inmho.
Love Incubus and Fugazi. First track - not so much.
Hope you look into doing a reaction to Grendel - this is regularly sidestepped by reactors on YT,
If you do, might I suggest this lovely lyric video - great visuals, and always helps to see the lyrics in such an epic song
Link: ua-cam.com/video/fdhDj8aFzrA/v-deo.html
Great reaction btw.
More dynamic drums? Well, I think it's just part of the sound and magic of this record! - Why I like it so much! The only thing I want to mention is the snare-drum. - Too much reverb!
Not the best of their albums, but still a pretty decent difficult 2nd album where they keep to the prog'ish style from Script. Still its been played almost as many times as Script to the point its a miracle both (original vinyl) albums isn't worn out. :D
Misplaced Childhood is quite the good album too, just a tad bored with the sound and the hits. :P
Very true. I cannot disagree