Why Full Suspension Bikes Suck! (And Why They Are Awesome)

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024

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  • @charlie9ine
    @charlie9ine Рік тому +13

    When I first started riding a full suspension bike after years on a hardtail I was floored by what I could get away with. Things that would have had me off the bike were magically saved. That was 15 years ago. Now on a current full suspension bike with different geometry it’s even better. I loved my hard tail bikes but I have to say that I don’t have the inclination to go back.

  • @wesr1409
    @wesr1409 Рік тому +9

    I love my hardtail. Recently sold my full sus one other benefit I find with hardtajl is it is easier to have fun. You don't need the same level of terrain or features to enjoy yourself and feel challenged. Dont get me wrong time and place for full sus too, certainly since I've moved away from Canadian rockies hardtail is the ticket for me.

  • @dominikgarbauer6883
    @dominikgarbauer6883 Рік тому +12

    I like riding my full-suspension Trek, it's very forgiving and a lot of fun. I'd rather be a bit overbiked but it would be fun to have a hardtail as well, e.g. for riding more xc in winter.

  • @leanasf821
    @leanasf821 Рік тому +4

    My current dream build is a hardtail, and I already ride a full sus! I just miss the pureness and simplicity of the good ol rigid back.

  • @DZig
    @DZig Рік тому +5

    I started out with a Santa Cruz Chameleon (HT), and love it. Went to a full sus, and love it too. Thing about a full sus is that you can take the rear suspension out of the picture with lockout if that is an option on your shock, then, it is basically a (slightly heavier) hardtail. Can't go the other way with a HT. Just sayin...

  • @JAvellino669
    @JAvellino669 10 місяців тому +2

    I started off on a hardtail, primarily because of how fun they were supposed to be. The area I ride in is very rocky with tons of roots (New England), so I was just getting plain beat up. It was more fun than walking, but also more sketchy and painful than I expected.
    Full suspension smooths things out to the point where I can enjoy the trail, and not feel like I'm fighting to stay out of the trees. I also have some pretty severe lower back problems, so having that rear shock saves me a ton of pain, even if I don't crash.

  • @scottunderwood3481
    @scottunderwood3481 Рік тому +3

    I went from 20 years of FS to a HT and its the best thing I ever did, there's no going back for me. If you need proof that you don't need a FS just watch Blake doing the Mega on a HT.👌🤣🤣

  • @DirtlovR
    @DirtlovR Рік тому +7

    Thanks GMBN, I was just about to spent 3000€ on fs bike but you managed to change my mind. Hardtail power!

  • @bostondye3736
    @bostondye3736 Рік тому +5

    Hardtails are good on a bmx/pump track and everything else is better on a full suspension. No arguments. Unless you can't afford a full suspension or just spend your days at a skate park. Aside from linkage maintenance. Full sus is better in every way....

    • @MrEcted
      @MrEcted Рік тому +1

      I guess it depends on how you define "better". For me and my local trails going from a hardtail to a FS is like going from white water rafting to chilling on a boat going down the lazy river. It really sapped the dynamic and fun nature out of the trails and kinda makes what was once a really fun trail to blast on kinda boring really. I guess that just means finding more extreme trails, but even blues and yellows are a blast on a HT, on a FS not as much IMO, especially after riding a hard tail for so long.

  • @yengsabio5315
    @yengsabio5315 Рік тому +8

    I chuckled when Blake was presented as a hardtail diehard fan! I feel properly represented already! 😄
    I'm very much willing to have a dual-suspension mountainbike but budget is currently a constraint.
    Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #RideOn #KeepBiking

    • @joshuaallswang8016
      @joshuaallswang8016 Рік тому +1

      Broo? How do you comment on every video they do, Do you even work??🤔

    • @kevinburke1325
      @kevinburke1325 Рік тому

      @@joshuaallswang8016 he's probably a bot. Just like one true cat many bots like to praise hardtails and attack people with full suspension. I would just ignore him.

  • @core-i7413
    @core-i7413 Рік тому +4

    I love hardtails, fun bikes but for when I'm racing and just riding in general I like full-suspensions a lot more, faster, more efficient and more forgiving on the rough stuff.

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Рік тому

      We totally agree! Hardtails are still great and have a place in MTB!

    • @core-i7413
      @core-i7413 Рік тому

      @@gmbn Especially my Cannondale Lefty, amazing hardtail

  • @wolfura
    @wolfura Рік тому +9

    Once you go squishy, it's hard to go back. I just find it fun to squish. That's all a person needs in their life. Just squish.

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Рік тому

      Full squish has got to be full fun, right? 😅

  • @ObamaoZedong
    @ObamaoZedong 15 днів тому

    Can confirm they are more expensive. I bought mine for $40 on craigslist while my hardtail cost only $20. That's double the price!

  • @richardjensen3655
    @richardjensen3655 Рік тому +1

    With the right setup including fork and tires, a hardtail can do almost everything a full suspension can. Blake has already proven this many times.

    • @MrEcted
      @MrEcted Рік тому +2

      Yeah it *can* do most things, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good experience. Even Blake will tell you that!

  • @jmac74
    @jmac74 Рік тому +1

    Can't afford a FS. And that is why I ride a HT.

  • @charleswinston2495
    @charleswinston2495 Рік тому

    In hiding the rear shock the Scott Spark / Genius help address the "harder to clean" issue. Although in doing so I admit they have added to the "Expensive" issue!

  • @the_derpler
    @the_derpler 22 дні тому

    Full susp def changed MTB IMO. The trails my friends ride on their full susp are so scary to me that it makes me stick to my hard tail. I don't want to risk snapping my spine in half every time I go on a ride lol.

  • @harveycasey1900
    @harveycasey1900 Рік тому +2

    A full suspension bike is way more worth it than to have a hard trail in the long run. Evan XC bikes and the pros that ride them even know that. That is why we are seeing more full suspension bikes in XC racing. Not only full suspension but they're using dropper post as well. Go figure🤔The saying goes" I rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it". Full suspension all day any day every day.

  • @roblatham5024
    @roblatham5024 Рік тому

    Just own both. Hardtail midweek fitness then smash the full squish at the bike parkweekends

  • @wansmg
    @wansmg Рік тому

    asik dari dulu ngikutin channel ini succes GMBN😊

  • @Kingtrollface259
    @Kingtrollface259 9 місяців тому

    You can get faster bearings too think they are up to abec 10/11 now ,5 was fast when I was a kid but that was roller blades

  • @anitalandkroon
    @anitalandkroon Рік тому +1

    Great video 😃 Great location 😃 and mountain bikes , hard or full 🤷‍♀️ I like both ❤

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much as always, Anita! 👊

  • @DarcyFletchh
    @DarcyFletchh Рік тому +2

    Ooh new vid!

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Рік тому

      Always! 😉

  • @armanrivera4116
    @armanrivera4116 Рік тому

    please do a comparison: 29er full sus vs 27.5 hardtail.. which is faster on an xco race track.

  • @nobody_noob2694
    @nobody_noob2694 Рік тому +2

    gmbn has become a hardtail cult now. Luckily i ride one

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Рік тому

      Haha! They are great, but of course, full-suspension bikes are just as good! 😂

    • @nobody_noob2694
      @nobody_noob2694 Рік тому

      @@gmbn the truth is that i can't afford a full sus lol

  • @FoxtonR
    @FoxtonR Рік тому +3

    I look at it this way, the front has suspension so why shouldn't the rear? Full sus all the way baby

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, absolutely! Why not? 😂

  • @lavish8744
    @lavish8744 Рік тому +2

    Damn ok because i was gonna get a Giant Stance Full Sus, but now idk if i should get a hardtail?

    • @bienqueipo
      @bienqueipo Рік тому

      Go with a 29er hardtail if your trails require you to pedal all the time but overall with good traction and riding comfort I'll stick with the full sus.

    • @core-i7413
      @core-i7413 Рік тому +1

      I'd go with a full-suspension, if you're planning to ride black diamonds with speed you ain't going to be having fun on a hardtail.

    • @yengsabio5315
      @yengsabio5315 Рік тому

      As far as my experience is concerned, hardtail mtb is a very good utilitarian & general purpose bike, & enough for the (on-/off-) road conditions that I have here at my end. It's also good for learning & enhancing biking skills.
      Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #RideOn #KeepBiking

    • @joshuaallswang8016
      @joshuaallswang8016 Рік тому +1

      Hardtail’s for Hard Men😤

  • @badbattleaxe5832
    @badbattleaxe5832 Рік тому +2

    People who bash full sus bikes are people who can’t afford full sus bikes.

  • @jimmylegit8084
    @jimmylegit8084 Рік тому

    I love a full sus but all-round prover a hardtail

  • @HFVidShotz
    @HFVidShotz Рік тому +3

    HT4L=HardTail4Life

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Рік тому

      #hardtails4life

  • @slomotrainwreck
    @slomotrainwreck Рік тому

    🤔I still want one 😀

  • @ghoumaanis5292
    @ghoumaanis5292 Рік тому

    My friend put this bike together for his son and before I knew it he was done ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L When the son came to put it together he was surprised to see it was already done. All he had to do was take the bike to get air and be on his way. My friend did not have any major problems putting this bike together; small issue was putting one of the brakes on straight; however when the son got home he was able to fix it. The bike rides well gears move correctly; good bike for the price. Wrote review after the son took the bike. Sorry.

  • @ironfrogpress1526
    @ironfrogpress1526 6 місяців тому

    I really H8 riding full sus... so sluggish. IMO unridable bikes foor unridable terrain....
    For pumptrack, I find a BMX bike no sus and 80psi tires outperform any mtb. 😉

  • @joshuaallswang8016
    @joshuaallswang8016 Рік тому

    Hardtail’s for Hard men!😤💪

  • @ls66
    @ls66 Рік тому +3

    So I’m not sure what you guys are doing it seems to me that you’re on some kind of hard tail push I wish you guys would go back to more tutorials and gear reviews. I’m not watching any of these videos. My first bike was a hard tail and I went to full suspension and it was a big improvement in bikes. I think you guys are confusing people with this type of content. Just my opinion.

  • @mikebirkett010
    @mikebirkett010 Рік тому +1

    Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever use WD40 on a cartridge bearing
    Did I not metion never ever ever ever........

  • @Velo1010
    @Velo1010 Рік тому +2

    I disagree they aren’t harder to clean. This is a big exaggeration. Spray it down the same way you do a hardtail.

    • @PedroStringhini
      @PedroStringhini Рік тому

      No way, lots of places hard for reaching, not considering all moving parts. I own a Session, clean lines, but definately harder for cleaning than my HT mtb or road bike

    • @user-kk9ez9hg4z
      @user-kk9ez9hg4z Рік тому

      Some linkage designs are a lot harder to clean 'well'. For example Yeti's rear suspension looks horrible to clean. But I agree with you. A lot of simple four bar linkage designs are not that hard to clean

    • @ItsATrap614
      @ItsATrap614 Рік тому

      @@user-kk9ez9hg4z still every once in a while you need to take the whole thing apart to really clean it, inspect and replace bearings etc. That is a lot of work compared to zero on the hardtail.

  • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
    @user-yv2cz8oj1k Рік тому +2

    Yep, full suspension, great for taking the fun out of riding. 🤣

  • @mbal4052
    @mbal4052 Рік тому +1

    Most bikers I know own both

  • @scottunderwood3481
    @scottunderwood3481 Рік тому +1

    I went from 20 years of FS to a HT and its the best thing I ever did, there's no going back for me. If you need proof that you don't need a FS just watch Blake doing the Mega on a HT.👌🤣🤣