The next frontier is if plant fiber has an effect. Does 10 grams of saturated coconut oil fat do the same as 10 grams of whole coconut sat fat? Thoughts? Also for your convenience here is there Thryve link for 50% off! trythryve.com/mic
Plant fiber, because if you eat Konjac Root before eating Fat, a miracle occurs where the Fat has no (aka some) caloric value remaining. Then I got to wondering, like, when you burn fat are you re-processing the vitamins and calories of the fat your burning? I mean, are you?
I wonder about coconut oil vs. coconut meat, too. I eat coconut, and have assumed it's not nearly as bad (if bad at all) as oil. I also consume zero oils in my diet and eat only whole plant fat like avos and nuts and seeds.
@@lindapb6529 Greger talks about the protective effects of antioxidants etc in nuts as the reason they counter the negative effects of the fat on blood flow etc, but some disagree and I wonder too. Esselstyn discourages nuts. I think all of us want to hear how wonderful peanuts are etc, but if we observe and really make note of all the effects are we ignoring certain facts and just wanting to believe it the high fat plant foods are no problem?? Is better than butter good enough?
@@woody3307 I believe Dr. Esselstyn only discourages nuts for people who already have heart disease. His wife and daughter have a UA-cam channel and some of the recipes include nuts.
@@woody3307, I tend to agree with Greger and Fuhrman on health issues. Both are cautious. Dr. F. is especially conservative: He never says to have a nut free-for-all. Better than butter is awesome, I must admit ;^) I was not only happy to be able to add fat to my diet, but my health improved drastically -- mentally and physically. Getting off the "the fat you eat is the fat you wear" roller coaster of evil was one of the best life miracles of my life! ETA: I love your avatar, John :^)
My cholesterol did improve after going vegan but I didn’t get it to normal levels until I started intentionally avoiding plantbased saturated fats - palm and coconut oils
Me too. I also lost weight and got my pre-diabetic markers into normal range when I went specifically whole food plant based no oil, especially the no oil part. Things fell into place nicely for me at that point.
@@debveve2839 I lost over half my body weight in two years - it fell off naturally at first but I started having to watch portion sizes, make better choices and exercise by the end. I was anemic before as well. I just had blood tests just recently and my cholesterol is quite a bit below the upper normal range and my iron is normal 🙂 My cholesterol was so high that I was diagnosed as having a disorder and put on medication when I was only 20 (I am 38 now).
@@jannahwhitmore5527 Wow, what a turnaround for you! I assume you got off the cholesterol medication? For me, my family has a very frightening history of deadly pancreatic cancer. I watched my brother and dad die of it, both big meat/dairy eaters. I'm 61, and over time I had watched my own glucose and A1C markers go up, to my horror. I've been vegan since 2013, but went specifically whole food plant based and really focused on no oil and no processed foods for the last 3 years or so. That's when the most positive changes occurred for me. Normal glucose, no longer pre-diabetic, normal cholesterol, 30 pounds lighter which puts me back at my normal slender weight I enjoyed 40-some years ago in high school. I hike a couple of miles most days and make sure I get good quality sleep and plenty of it. Food is powerful, for better or worse! And other lifestyle factors are important too. I love the delicious, healthy food I eat now. Wonderful you did so well! Kudos to you.
@@debveve2839 no medication. I hadn’t seen my gp in so many years that he rang me to see if I was ok lol. I am super healthy now but my obesity did cause me to require a few surgeries - gall bladder removal, varicose vein removal and two skin removal surgeries - extended medial thigh, extended tummy tuck, lower back lift and arms. I’m all good now though and have the rest of my life to enjoy living in a normal fashion. It’s funny to me that an act of unselfishness could end up so beneficial to me on a personal level.
@@jannahwhitmore5527 You have really created yourself anew! I love your comment about how an act of unselfishness could end up so beneficial. It does seem to work that way, doesn't it? We help the animals, it helps our health, helps the planet. And we can share our positive stories which hopefully helps others choose this vegan path. Good begets good!
@ Dr. Esselstyn will tell you if you get on the path of low food WFPB diet fully and with no oil then you will never have a cardiac event so 3 weeks or 3 years is not as important as how you do it. Once in you are one of us forever if your understanding and habits are firm. Long life to you!
As a vegan of 1.5 years (with a history of almost 2 years of vegetairianism to ease into it) i still feel like a noob. In conversation either i will spit out a lecture without a power point presentation or i will lose my shit. I constantly take shit from my family and i have lost 2 friends due to me being vegan. So i feel the mate here
@@fayem4091 when $hit is thrown, throw back _nutritionfacts_ - family members give up quickly and "friends" who stop contacting due to one's dietary choices better find new friends... (6 years vegan + 1 year OMAD)
I’d love to see a study or video on saturated fat in whole food form (e.g coconut flesh, cacao beans) if there is one. Would the fibre/phytonutrients negate the negative effects of the saturated fat?
I’d like to know too. I eat coconut butter (also known as cream or manna) pretty much daily in the food I make. I also sometimes use shredded coconut or would make coconut milk. However, I do not use coconut oil (or any oil). I do not feel like these two things - the food in its whole plant form and just extracted oil - are the same.
@@bmary8928 I read 2 studies about the impact of whole coconut flakes on bad cholesterol and the conclusion were that it lower the level of bad cholesterol, i'm not an expert so i don't know about the credibility and rigor of these studies, but it seems that whole coconut isn't detrimental to heart health and surprisingly help, maybe the high fibers content and phytonutriments balance the saturated fats.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that coconut contains longer chains of saturated fatty acids just like meat, so it is the only plant source to avoid
@@samvandervelden8243 interesting. I have heard the saturated fat in chocolate is one part stearic acid to one part palmitic acid (remaining third oleic acid) and that stearic acid is cholesterol neutral which is why chocolate is touted as beneficial for cardiovascular health, but this could be BS
Thanks, interesting. But both groups continuing to consume dairy - as pointed out, that would have been better avoided; or a third and non dairy group could have made. I guess the dairy is where all participants obtained the dietary cholesterol? And no mention of eggs, containing both cholesterol and saturated fat. While illuminating about effects of white vs red meat, the study further perpetuates the glossing over of animal milk and its products as animal derived food. In fact butter and cheese are major contributors of saturated fat in common diets. Also, would be good to know whether fish was included in the white meat.
There's a link to the study provided. "The study was not designed to test effects of fish and seafood, which were excluded from all the diets. " Surprised me: "Differences in SFA content between the high- and low-SFA arms were achieved primarily by using high-fat dairy products and butter, with only 2-3% E from SFAs derived from lean red or white meat. For the nonmeat diets, 2-3% E from SFAs was derived from tropical oils and fats, with the remainder provided by high-fat dairy products."
I'd like to see the word "meat" go back to meaning the meaty part of whatever it is, including subjects. That said, I'd like to hear particular animal names in lieu of "white meat." Call me ridiculous. I'm used to it. Been hearing it since the 70s when I gave up eating mammals and birds in the first place.
@I invented Google I looked up the Etymology and came up with Old Germanic 'Matr', which means 'food'. Which means it applies to anything you're eating. Either way our ancestors were eating either all plants or mostly plants at any given time. The argument is silly anyway. Everyone knows that mince pies have mincemeat in them, which is minced fruit. The flesh of the fruit describes the bit you eat. It's always been a non-issue. Just some unintelligent people spreading falsehoods as usual.
Since the 70s? What about fish? If you don't eat fish or any other animals either than kudos to you. Always glad to be in the presence of long term vegans and vegetarians.
This is a study on saturated fats. So they are all bad for the arteries. But vegetable fats are even worse. They are highly inflammatory and therefore open the door to cancer. Conclusion: eat as little oil as possible, whether saturated or not, or not at all. Message from France.
Thaaaaaaank you! I've been so confused when plant-based DR's have been admonishing oils. I didn't really understand the whole saturated fat thing. I thought it was only amongst animal protein and didn't know it was also included in plant-based options. This makes the whole, "don't consume oil" thing make a lot more sense.
My eye is actually twitching from the Dad Puns. Really appreciated the assessment of the study; it's good that the results seem to track with what previous studies suggested. TFP, and have a good 4th of July weekend : )
Other reasons for the plant-based sat. fat group to have a lower LDL is the higher fiber content and plant sterols, both prevent full absorption of cholesterol in the small intestine.
I bet the researchers did not count cholesterol as a variable in the results, cuz they probably have read the carbophobe study that says dietary cholesterol does not affect blood cholesterol.
My total cholesterol was 135 my hdl 63 and my ldl 61 I am a woman at 23 who jogs a 5k almost every day and does a bit yoga (20-30min each day) My doctor stared me in the eye and said to me that i could do better in the cholesterol department. I think he trolled me but he never said so, and now i am paranoid
Key word: associated with. Professionals know what they’re talking about. There’s absolutely an association. It’s great that your father is clear, but “bad” cholesterol can definitely lead to heart disease.
@@liviaparis6416 why is ldl demonized its responsible for bringing fat soluble vitamins around your body. People should look at low hdl/high trigs and high insulin/a1c as the problems
@@Bkay2240 yes, it’s beneficial and essential, clearly, but unbalanced cholesterol levels and high cholesterol can lead to heart disease. Nobody has ever says it /will/. Just that it can. Especially from the wrong source.
A lot of the processed vegan foods like the meat imitation products are super high in fat they often use coconut oil to mimic the diary stuff (like vegan cheese) - it's really easy to gorge on these products hence the high cholesterol amongst some vegans.
You keep me sane which is slightly ironic. I think you should start coming up with tests because you always point out what they’ve missed or fallen down on. Your points are always very valid. No matter what color the meat is it’s still meat.
It's odd calling plants "nonmeat" when the etymology of the word is: "Middle English mēte, from Old English mete 'food, nourishment, sustenance' (paired with drink), 'item of food; animal food, fodder,' also 'a meal, repast,' ..."
@@GreenTea4Me cool thanks ill try it now, i also recently for great together are walnut/date, walnut raisin, flax in a bowl and break banana into little pieces in bowl & shake a little & flax sticks to the banana pieces, always exploring new whole food combos and recipes.
Great source of aflatoxins. That's the reason reason why so many are developing sensitives to peanuts--its not the peanuts themselves but the mold that likes to grow on them that produce aflatoxins. Try to source organic peanuts from dryer climates like Spain--these should be better with the mold.
Hi Mike, is it established that we need fats for our body to operate well? Specifically "whole food" fats such as avocado, nuts & seeds. Or is that an old misconception? If it is important, can you add any healthy WFPB fat sources to my list? TX!
Google not invented in your reality yet Sarah? What about oxygen? Are you aware that's important? Does your ignorance allow you to consume other vital things like water?
Great vid. I eat tons of nuts, and lean cuts of meats, along with high fiber, and fruit intake. I tried vegan for 6 months and lost a lot of weight, unfortunately a fair bit of muscle mass too. My LDL stays consistent 70-80, as long as I stick with the lean cuts. Always shoot for grassfed organic too.
Is sat. Fat unhealthy? I don’t think so.😊 I have had sat. Fat at every meal for 57 yrs and am not overweight and get great health checkups. I avoid veg. Oil, sugar, and wheat, which come from plants. Always active.
I love smoking Ribs pulled pork tri tip etc but I have for last 6 months been scaling way back. Baca veggie burger is good with dairy cheese on it and pickles mustard and catsup works for a meal kinda satisfying. The Impossible or Beyond are still high in the saturated fats.. good to know they are not as bad. Everything in moderation.
Of course, evolution created saturated fat and cholesterol only to cause hearth disease and put it in higher concentrations in the milk just to kill the offspring. /sarcasm. You are asking the right questions, keep thinking and you will understand what is the optimal diet for humans.
Infants are born in ketosis and are carnivores. They consume fats and protein. There is almost 0 sugar in breast milk. What changes in the human body to require us to eat vegetarian when we get older? NOTHING! Sugars, carbohydrates and processed foods are the poisons that are driving diabetes and heart disease through the roof, not saturated fat.
So should we avoid breastfeeding due to saturated fats in the milk? This must be answered since breastmilk is proven optimal despite the fact that it contains the satanist saturated fat and the cholesterol. Is vegan formula prefered?
Vegan for 2 years and I stay away from coconut oils exception being beyondmeat 😂 every now and then I'll have that alternative. I run 4 times a weeks and wieght lift 5times a weeks so I think im good
Non meat is the right word if that group is still eating eggs and dairy, you definitely don't want to call a group that's eating eggs and dairy "plant based".
Well being plant based mean having an alimentation based on plants mostly, so yes you can still consume eggs and dairy and be plant based as long as it's as it's not often, it's about quantity.
Someone should do a study where there is a third group added for comparison. This third group could be eating an equivalent amount of saturated fat and protein from whole coconut and tofu or tempeh. I would like to see that comparison as I do not eat fake meat because they really are not that appetizing to me. I have a sense that saturated fats that are encapsulated in coconut fibers have a less detrimental effect than free oils which can get into the bloodstream very quickly.
I've been vegan since Nov 2019 and my LDL is somehow 110. Sept 2020 it was 115. I have barely been having any coconut products over the past year, as well. I do eat nut butter, nuts, avocado, olive oil.
I find it bizarre. Like why wouldn't you want to also study a group that doesn't consume ANY cholesterol in a study about the effects of diet on heart disease? It's like they're deliberating being uncurious about veganism, as though it simply could not exist. It's frustrating.
Aw, I hoped that you would go into more detail about the length of fatty acids. I heard from Dr Greger that chicken is the main source of cholesterol in the US. It's not that surprising since domestication has made poor broiler chickens morbidly obese.
Dr Greger said that chicken is the main source of sodium in the U.S I think, not cholesterol. Cause main source of cholesterol I thought it was eggs or red meat?
@@DoodlesMcpooh That's a serious accusation. If you have any proof you should report him instead of leaving comments on a UA-cam video, otherwise people will think you're lying.
i remember dr greger shared that islander who ate lots of coconuts had high cholesterol, crazy how a plant based whole food could be so unhealthy, not good
Let's all be the pinnacle of human health like Greger. I hear the meth addict on the corner is giving lectures on careful decision making if you're interested.
I fear not the saturated fat found naturally in coconuts or meat. I fear the polyunsaturated oxidized fat in canola oils made with heat treatment and sodium hydroxide. I fear margarine which is made by hydrogenating plant fats.
Last time I checked (June 18, 2021, two years eating plant-based diet) my LDL was 80 mg/dL, HDL was 36 mg/dL, total cholesterol 141 mg/dL, and triglycerides 126 mg/dL. Back in 2016 (omnivore diet) my LDL was 104, HDL 38, total 162, triglycerides 102 mg/dL. My doctor insists that diet has very little to do with cholesterol levels in blood, hopefully he’s right because I use coconut oil for cooking many things.
Clearly your doctor doesn't understand physiology, you can look up some of the experiments made by Dave Feldman in which he changed his cholesterol levels by more than 100 points by just changing diet in a few days.
@@Gengh13 I agree, and I was not impressed with his overall competence either, and I will be selecting a new primary care physician in the near future.
@@conorrclark8274 seed oils? Like grape seed or rape seed? I don’t use them much. Mostly I cook with olive oil and coconut oil. But you may have misread what I wrote regarding numbers, my point was that my doctor (who wanted to put me on statins) argued that diet and blood cholesterol are not closely correlated, yet when I stopped eating animal proteins and animal fats, my total cholesterol and triglycerides levels when down.
@@jpe1 canola, rapeseed, sunflower. do yourself a favour and watch this video, ua-cam.com/video/7kGnfXXIKZM/v-deo.html the answer might be in there somewhere. also low cholesterol is a myth, LDL is irrelevant so long as triglycerides are low and HDL is fine. a study on 12.8 million koreans found the optimum cholesterol for lowest all cause mortality was 210-240mg/dL. additionally olive oil have a really low smoke point which isnt ideal if you're cooking with it. i dont know if you're vegan or not, but if you are the best is avocado oil, it is the most expensive but has the highest smoke point. if you're not a vegan then the best is ghee and tallow. just please be careful listening to this guy, he is spreading a LOT of misinformation
I’ve come off of being illness since March. I’m going to have surgery soon. I’ve added meat to my diet to get my body ready. My meat is carefully chosen. My cholesterol is low, my LDL has always been high. Even as a biathlete. I’m no longer physically fit. Perhaps my efforts to regain strength and health by going to meat is wrong thinking. I’ve been a vegan for 8 years now. I don’t have the energy to make healthy meals. I don’t like fake meats. Any good suggestions.
Hi Mic I wonder it is true that coconut oil causes high LDL? I consume quite a bit of my foods cooked from fresh coconut milk and my LDL for years is about 1.8 mmol/l.
@@DoodlesMcpooh bad comparison, as it's factually wrong. I see it's self evident you know nothing about nutritional sciences, or just believe you do while having been taught disinformation... Disappointment how dumb humanity is... I am a scientist. And I can tell you, micthevegan is doing a great job with evidence basis
interesting to see the white meat group ate more cholesterol than the red meat group when i think a lot of people would think white meat is healthier in that aspect
Hey Mic, loved the loser joke! (I think I dated him for a bit!) There is so much info now about not necessarily the saturation of the oils, but that it is very inflammatory. And that that is the real reason for so much health problems. How does that issue fit into this video and findings?
I do wonder if these studies get screened by the manner in which the food is cooked. As a large majority of meat is fried, or grilled, oxidation or charring of foods could be one factor leading to some of the increased risk factors from meat.
You'd actually need science proving there are risk factors for meat first. None currently exist. Ask someone in your special group to explain Google to you and help you with the big words.
Mic, you are always awesome and I always agree with you however, if this is true that both fats animal and plant fats, should be used sparingly, my question is why people in Europe and other countries, eat a lot of meat and cheese and have less heart disease and they consume a lot of saturated fat? I am genuinely curious... By the way, I have been Vegan for 13 years.
Aka the French Paradox. One explanation is that CHD is under reported in France vs other countries. Eating healthier foods, walking more, and less stress are probably contributing factors as well.
They do eat a lot of fat in the form of dairy, but they don't tend to eat as much meat as US folks. But as the other poster commented, there are other counter balancing factors. If anyone thinks that health or lack thereof is only ever just one thing, typically they are pretty clueless. It is a very holistic area with many contributing factors.
My LDL was high and not of the good kind. The reason? High sugar intake and refined bread. Trying to rectify this now. So, high LDL can be caused by other reasons beyond dietary fat intake.
I'm confused, because to produce estrogen, allegedly you need cholesterol. It's said that without it you're infertile. How can a vegan female remain fertile? This is a question, not a critique. I'd appreciate a video on this topic. Thank you.
@@belindaknowles7440 your body provides up to 80% of your required cholesterol. Using a smug emoji is hilarious when you're so wrong. Can I suggest the parrot one in future as you just repeat rubbish without fact checking.
Soaponslope it wasn’t smug. I always try to make sure people know I’m not being a jerk when I post anything. If you are looking for an argument, look elsewhere. Have a nice day😊 And if you read my post, I said your body produces cholesterol. You can read and process what you read, right?
Although I eat a WFPB vegan regimen I had to quit the nuts to get my cholesterol under 150 and proportionally lower the LDL. Interestingly, my GI functions much better when on the much lower fat nut free version. Avoiding oil is easy, but nuts?? Is Jeff Novick right about the detrimental effects of the high saturated fat from nuts? I wonder because being an off and on nut addict I am finding a correlation with the fat calories and numerous issues of concern. The 1950 Okinawan diet was only 6% fat. That's pretty low, mister! Are we vegans kidding ourselves about our fats. If the results of that study had shown rock bottom LDL for the plant portion I would stop worrying, but that minor difference is unconvincing. Am I the only one?
The "plant people" in the study were still eating dairy and eggs, so it wasn't at any point a study on vegans! Just their meat was replaced with "non meat".
@@ChrisJWinn Yes, good point, of course. Thank you. But I also had a nut "hangover" this morning after eating a bowl of peanuts. I just do better without the added fats and my numbers look better too. Not to say I don't eat plenty of nuts...haha.. how soon we forget!!!
As a physician, I freaking looooooove this article! I have been quoting since it came out. I love how data will change some people, but others are so religiously bought into meat that they can’t see the truth through their taste buds. I like that this is a good quality article and well done. And to some of the other comments, actively reducing cholesterol requires not just plant based, but removal of plant saturated fats like coconut, having high fiber and specifically including compounds to reduce cholesterol
Shame he make you a video based on actual science or how your birthday cake wouldn't have tasted of failure and disappointment if it had been made with eggs.
@@angycucumber4319 wow, if you took just a moment away from identifying as a vegetable you could Google things and realise what you claim is completely impossible. Just look up how fat is transported in the bloodstream then register yourself at the nearest Kindergarten
The next frontier is if plant fiber has an effect. Does 10 grams of saturated coconut oil fat do the same as 10 grams of whole coconut sat fat? Thoughts? Also for your convenience here is there Thryve link for 50% off! trythryve.com/mic
Plant fiber, because if you eat Konjac Root before eating Fat, a miracle occurs where the Fat has no (aka some) caloric value remaining.
Then I got to wondering, like, when you burn fat are you re-processing the vitamins and calories of the fat your burning? I mean, are you?
I wonder about coconut oil vs. coconut meat, too. I eat coconut, and have assumed it's not nearly as bad (if bad at all) as oil. I also consume zero oils in my diet and eat only whole plant fat like avos and nuts and seeds.
@@lindapb6529 Greger talks about the protective effects of antioxidants etc in nuts as the reason they counter the negative effects of the fat on blood flow etc, but some disagree and I wonder too. Esselstyn discourages nuts. I think all of us want to hear how wonderful peanuts are etc, but if we observe and really make note of all the effects are we ignoring certain facts and just wanting to believe it the high fat plant foods are no problem?? Is better than butter good enough?
@@woody3307 I believe Dr. Esselstyn only discourages nuts for people who already have heart disease. His wife and daughter have a UA-cam channel and some of the recipes include nuts.
@@woody3307, I tend to agree with Greger and Fuhrman on health issues. Both are cautious. Dr. F. is especially conservative: He never says to have a nut free-for-all.
Better than butter is awesome, I must admit ;^) I was not only happy to be able to add fat to my diet, but my health improved drastically -- mentally and physically. Getting off the "the fat you eat is the fat you wear" roller coaster of evil was one of the best life miracles of my life!
ETA: I love your avatar, John :^)
My cholesterol did improve after going vegan but I didn’t get it to normal levels until I started intentionally avoiding plantbased saturated fats - palm and coconut oils
Me too. I also lost weight and got my pre-diabetic markers into normal range when I went specifically whole food plant based no oil, especially the no oil part. Things fell into place nicely for me at that point.
@@debveve2839 I lost over half my body weight in two years - it fell off naturally at first but I started having to watch portion sizes, make better choices and exercise by the end. I was anemic before as well. I just had blood tests just recently and my cholesterol is quite a bit below the upper normal range and my iron is normal 🙂 My cholesterol was so high that I was diagnosed as having a disorder and put on medication when I was only 20 (I am 38 now).
@@jannahwhitmore5527 Wow, what a turnaround for you! I assume you got off the cholesterol medication? For me, my family has a very frightening history of deadly pancreatic cancer. I watched my brother and dad die of it, both big meat/dairy eaters. I'm 61, and over time I had watched my own glucose and A1C markers go up, to my horror. I've been vegan since 2013, but went specifically whole food plant based and really focused on no oil and no processed foods for the last 3 years or so. That's when the most positive changes occurred for me. Normal glucose, no longer pre-diabetic, normal cholesterol, 30 pounds lighter which puts me back at my normal slender weight I enjoyed 40-some years ago in high school. I hike a couple of miles most days and make sure I get good quality sleep and plenty of it. Food is powerful, for better or worse! And other lifestyle factors are important too. I love the delicious, healthy food I eat now. Wonderful you did so well! Kudos to you.
@@debveve2839 no medication. I hadn’t seen my gp in so many years that he rang me to see if I was ok lol. I am super healthy now but my obesity did cause me to require a few surgeries - gall bladder removal, varicose vein removal and two skin removal surgeries - extended medial thigh, extended tummy tuck, lower back lift and arms. I’m all good now though and have the rest of my life to enjoy living in a normal fashion. It’s funny to me that an act of unselfishness could end up so beneficial to me on a personal level.
@@jannahwhitmore5527 You have really created yourself anew! I love your comment about how an act of unselfishness could end up so beneficial. It does seem to work that way, doesn't it? We help the animals, it helps our health, helps the planet. And we can share our positive stories which hopefully helps others choose this vegan path. Good begets good!
Just realized I've been vegan for more of my life than not - 18 years at age 35. 😲
I've been Vegetarian for more than half my Life... still a way to go before I'm Vegan for half.
Well done... I'm very jealous.
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God bless you, "failed omnivore"! congratulations on your commitment and success.....
Awesome, 15 years at age 34
Looking forward to claim the same thing when I will turn 82 😅
This can't be measured clearly if they were eating dairy and eggs.
Excellent video. I'm a relatively new vegan of 2.5 years and your content has helped me immensely. Thank you!
2.5 years is new vegan ?? I am here feeling like an experienced vegan while being a vegan for only 5 months 😂
@ Dr. Esselstyn will tell you if you get on the path of low food WFPB diet fully and with no oil then you will never have a cardiac event so 3 weeks or 3 years is not as important as how you do it. Once in you are one of us forever if your understanding and habits are firm. Long life to you!
As a vegan of 1.5 years (with a history of almost 2 years of vegetairianism to ease into it) i still feel like a noob. In conversation either i will spit out a lecture without a power point presentation or i will lose my shit. I constantly take shit from my family and i have lost 2 friends due to me being vegan. So i feel the mate here
I was like that's new? I've only been 1 year. xD
@@fayem4091 when $hit is thrown, throw back _nutritionfacts_ - family members give up quickly and "friends" who stop contacting due to one's dietary choices better find new friends... (6 years vegan + 1 year OMAD)
I’d love to see a study or video on saturated fat in whole food form (e.g coconut flesh, cacao beans) if there is one. Would the fibre/phytonutrients negate the negative effects of the saturated fat?
This is what I'm wondering about for a long time.
I’d like to know too. I eat coconut butter (also known as cream or manna) pretty much daily in the food I make. I also sometimes use shredded coconut or would make coconut milk. However, I do not use coconut oil (or any oil). I do not feel like these two things - the food in its whole plant form and just extracted oil - are the same.
@@bmary8928 I read 2 studies about the impact of whole coconut flakes on bad cholesterol and the conclusion were that it lower the level of bad cholesterol, i'm not an expert so i don't know about the credibility and rigor of these studies, but it seems that whole coconut isn't detrimental to heart health and surprisingly help, maybe the high fibers content and phytonutriments balance the saturated fats.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that coconut contains longer chains of saturated fatty acids just like meat, so it is the only plant source to avoid
@@samvandervelden8243 interesting. I have heard the saturated fat in chocolate is one part stearic acid to one part palmitic acid (remaining third oleic acid) and that stearic acid is cholesterol neutral which is why chocolate is touted as beneficial for cardiovascular health, but this could be BS
Can confirm, my saturated fat intake was high, and my LDL was elevated when I got my diagnosis
3:31 omg this part...at glucifer I had to laugh out loud, man I love your puns XDDD
Thanks, interesting. But both groups continuing to consume dairy - as pointed out, that would have been better avoided; or a third and non dairy group could have made. I guess the dairy is where all participants obtained the dietary cholesterol? And no mention of eggs, containing both cholesterol and saturated fat.
While illuminating about effects of white vs red meat, the study further perpetuates the glossing over of animal milk and its products as animal derived food. In fact butter and cheese are major contributors of saturated fat in common diets. Also, would be good to know whether fish was included in the white meat.
I agree, it would have been insightful.
@@zabelconnor 👍😊 thx
There's a link to the study provided.
"The study was not designed to test effects of fish and seafood, which were excluded from all the diets. "
Surprised me:
"Differences in SFA content between the high- and low-SFA arms were achieved primarily by using high-fat dairy products and butter, with only 2-3% E from SFAs derived from lean red or white meat. For the nonmeat diets, 2-3% E from SFAs was derived from tropical oils and fats, with the remainder provided by high-fat dairy products."
I'd like to see the word "meat" go back to meaning the meaty part of whatever it is, including subjects. That said, I'd like to hear particular animal names in lieu of "white meat." Call me ridiculous. I'm used to it. Been hearing it since the 70s when I gave up eating mammals and birds in the first place.
@I invented Google I looked up the Etymology and came up with Old Germanic 'Matr', which means 'food'. Which means it applies to anything you're eating. Either way our ancestors were eating either all plants or mostly plants at any given time.
The argument is silly anyway. Everyone knows that mince pies have mincemeat in them, which is minced fruit. The flesh of the fruit describes the bit you eat. It's always been a non-issue. Just some unintelligent people spreading falsehoods as usual.
Since the 70s? What about fish? If you don't eat fish or any other animals either than kudos to you. Always glad to be in the presence of long term vegans and vegetarians.
@I invented Google Thank you for posting that. Sometimes definitions evolve. Other times they stray. This is a good example of that.
@@chiyerano I don't eat it now but for years when I lived in Japan I did eat it on and off.
@@chiyerano Although it's never too late to start, right?
I was literally thinking about this just yesterday. Mic the psychic! XP
I've been wondering about this! Thank you!
This is a study on saturated fats. So they are all bad for the arteries. But vegetable fats are even worse. They are highly inflammatory and therefore open the door to cancer. Conclusion: eat as little oil as possible, whether saturated or not, or not at all.
Message from France.
Yes, 🤦♀️ I remember when low carb movement came out. the high LDL was justified by oh it’s just large fluffy & un harmful vs small dense LDL.
Wow. Bet you haven't had your vaccine either. Why do you hate science?
Yeah there's different kinds of "LDL".
The bad kind comes from seed oils.
Animal fat is not dangerous to human health :)
Sarcasm?@@nunyadambidniss
man I love this channel. Such interesting findings
Shame not single one is true.
Thaaaaaaank you! I've been so confused when plant-based DR's have been admonishing oils. I didn't really understand the whole saturated fat thing. I thought it was only amongst animal protein and didn't know it was also included in plant-based options. This makes the whole, "don't consume oil" thing make a lot more sense.
nonmeat could also include eggs and dairy!
It looks like the study calls out "Non-meat" as "legumes, nuts, grains, isoflavone-free soy products". 🙂
Yeah in this case it actually was plants. The egg and dairy consumption was matched equally between groups.
My eye is actually twitching from the Dad Puns. Really appreciated the assessment of the study; it's good that the results seem to track with what previous studies suggested. TFP, and have a good 4th of July weekend : )
Other reasons for the plant-based sat. fat group to have a lower LDL is the higher fiber content and plant sterols, both prevent full absorption of cholesterol in the small intestine.
I bet the researchers did not count cholesterol as a variable in the results, cuz they probably have read the carbophobe study that says dietary cholesterol does not affect blood cholesterol.
I eat coconut oil by the spoonful. I have clear arteries and 237 mg/dL cholesterol.
My total cholesterol was 135 my hdl 63 and my ldl 61
I am a woman at 23 who jogs a 5k almost every day and does a bit yoga (20-30min each day)
My doctor stared me in the eye and said to me that i could do better in the cholesterol department.
I think he trolled me but he never said so, and now i am paranoid
F him! youre fine!
@@1ACL Above 200 is also fine. They'll tell you you'll die but they're liars.
My fathers ldl is very high his whole life and had a resent calcium artery score of zero...I don't think ldl causes arterial plaque or heart disease
Key word: associated with. Professionals know what they’re talking about. There’s absolutely an association. It’s great that your father is clear, but “bad” cholesterol can definitely lead to heart disease.
@@liviaparis6416 why is ldl demonized its responsible for bringing fat soluble vitamins around your body. People should look at low hdl/high trigs and high insulin/a1c as the problems
@@Bkay2240 yes, it’s beneficial and essential, clearly, but unbalanced cholesterol levels and high cholesterol can lead to heart disease. Nobody has ever says it /will/. Just that it can. Especially from the wrong source.
I think nuts and seeds dont raise LDL -- in fact they lower it. But Coconut and palm do raise LDL. At least thats been my experience.
not only coconut and palm but also vegetable oils
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A lot of the processed vegan foods like the meat imitation products are super high in fat they often use coconut oil to mimic the diary stuff (like vegan cheese) - it's really easy to gorge on these products hence the high cholesterol amongst some vegans.
9:28 'the plumbing system' Lmao it truly makes sense to call it that
Probably the most scientific thing in the video
After cutting out high fat foods (peanut butter, oils all nuts ect) I have lot more energy
And more stable blood sugar
And I flew to the moon on a blue giraffe yesterday. It's easy to talk shite on the Internet.
You keep me sane which is slightly ironic. I think you should start coming up with tests because you always point out what they’ve missed or fallen down on. Your points are always very valid. No matter what color the meat is it’s still meat.
He doesn't, he just makes excuses for why they don't support his religion.
Thryve? They recommend a ketogenic diet as best for gut health!
@@TylerTron21 And I can put vegetables in my bum but they're both stupid ideas.
@@bryandzvonick There's no real evidence of that. It's junk, wishful thinking science.
It's odd calling plants "nonmeat" when the etymology of the word is: "Middle English mēte, from Old English mete 'food, nourishment, sustenance' (paired with drink), 'item of food; animal food, fodder,' also 'a meal, repast,' ..."
The title seems very confusing should name it as 'is all saturated fats the same?'
One of my new favorite snacks is peanuts 🥜 with raisins, I'll see soon if walnuts go good with gojiberries I have doubts about that one though
Walnuts go great with Goji berries. I eat them with dried apricots too!
@@GreenTea4Me cool thanks ill try it now, i also recently for great together are walnut/date, walnut raisin, flax in a bowl and break banana into little pieces in bowl & shake a little & flax sticks to the banana pieces, always exploring new whole food combos and recipes.
Great source of aflatoxins. That's the reason reason why so many are developing sensitives to peanuts--its not the peanuts themselves but the mold that likes to grow on them that produce aflatoxins. Try to source organic peanuts from dryer climates like Spain--these should be better with the mold.
Just call it plants 👏
I love your informative videos. I study nutrition and your channel is great for pointing out studies I need to read. Thank you!
Hi Mike, is it established that we need fats for our body to operate well? Specifically "whole food" fats such as avocado, nuts & seeds. Or is that an old misconception? If it is important, can you add any healthy WFPB fat sources to my list? TX!
you need fats to metabolize certain crucial vitamins and other things. Yes. very very important.
Google not invented in your reality yet Sarah? What about oxygen? Are you aware that's important? Does your ignorance allow you to consume other vital things like water?
@@DoodlesMcpooh Hey, jerk. Yes, you. Get back to your homework and leave the adults alone to discuss nutrition matters.
I don't want to pick nits but I can't stop myself. Versus is pronounced versus. Two syllables; stress is on the first. Thank you for your patience.
Calling it non meat is better because as you said, they weren't vegan. So they didn't just eat plants.
request for Mic the Vegan, do a video on "sitting is the new smoking"
I chuckled when I misread your comment as “sh!tting is the new smoking”…
Wouldnt nonmeat fat also include butter and other dairy products? Or eggs
Great vid. I eat tons of nuts, and lean cuts of meats, along with high fiber, and fruit intake. I tried vegan for 6 months and lost a lot of weight, unfortunately a fair bit of muscle mass too. My LDL stays consistent 70-80, as long as I stick with the lean cuts. Always shoot for grassfed organic too.
Eat your kale! Hail Crucifer, lord of greens!
Better than my joke lol
Collard Greens have entered the room and clobbered kale to win the title.
Is sat. Fat unhealthy? I don’t think so.😊 I have had sat. Fat at every meal for 57 yrs and am not overweight and get great health checkups. I avoid veg. Oil, sugar, and wheat, which come from plants. Always active.
I love smoking Ribs pulled pork tri tip etc but I have for last 6 months been scaling way back. Baca veggie burger is good with dairy cheese on it and pickles mustard and catsup works for a meal kinda satisfying. The Impossible or Beyond are still high in the saturated fats.. good to know they are not as bad. Everything in moderation.
Gotta try Follow your Heart Vegan Cheese! 🧀
Is saturated fat and cholesterol in breastmilk dangerous for infants?
Of course, evolution created saturated fat and cholesterol only to cause hearth disease and put it in higher concentrations in the milk just to kill the offspring.
/sarcasm.
You are asking the right questions, keep thinking and you will understand what is the optimal diet for humans.
Infants are born in ketosis and are carnivores. They consume fats and protein. There is almost 0 sugar in breast milk. What changes in the human body to require us to eat vegetarian when we get older? NOTHING! Sugars, carbohydrates and processed foods are the poisons that are driving diabetes and heart disease through the roof, not saturated fat.
So should we avoid breastfeeding due to saturated fats in the milk?
This must be answered since breastmilk is proven optimal despite the fact that it contains the satanist saturated fat and the cholesterol. Is vegan formula prefered?
@@johansvensson1686 no, of course no, human breast milk is designed to sustain human babies. There is no better alternative.
@@johansvensson1686 yes, stick to vegan formula until your mental age reaches the same as a toddler.
Hi Mike check out Plant Chompers’ video on Saturated Fat at 3m12s where coconut oil was used to cause arterial clogs in test animals.
Vegan for 2 years and I stay away from coconut oils exception being beyondmeat 😂 every now and then I'll have that alternative. I run 4 times a weeks and wieght lift 5times a weeks so I think im good
@@rl9808 better than eggs, dairy, and meat though 😂
@@veganhabibijustin1246 no their even worse and so processed just eat plants and shut up stop eating fake meat made in a laboratory
@@rl9808 What's bad about it?
Not all non meat stuff is plant based. That's why they called it non-meat. There are for example also mushrooms which aren't plants but mushrooms.
A study of this caliber and precise measurements but looking at different dietary keto groups would be fantastic!
Non meat is the right word if that group is still eating eggs and dairy, you definitely don't want to call a group that's eating eggs and dairy "plant based".
Well being plant based mean having an alimentation based on plants mostly, so yes you can still consume eggs and dairy and be plant based as long as it's as it's not often, it's about quantity.
If it's 51%+ plants, it's plant based. That's how our language works
@@DoodlesMcpooh I think it's sightly more than 51%, more around 70%.
"Plants are better"
Maybe for some naughty things but certainly not better for consumption.
I'm going to guess, "yes" but still not so great!
I have to check but a year ago my LDL was under 70 after going WFPB :)
Someone should do a study where there is a third group added for comparison. This third group could be eating an equivalent amount of saturated fat and protein from whole coconut and tofu or tempeh. I would like to see that comparison as I do not eat fake meat because they really are not that appetizing to me. I have a sense that saturated fats that are encapsulated in coconut fibers have a less detrimental effect than free oils which can get into the bloodstream very quickly.
All that research and they still had dairy and eggs in the plant fat group. So stupid😔
NO. Palm and coconut saturated fat is actually WORSE than animal saturated fats
I strictly keep my Saturated Fat intake to 5g or less a Day. Gonna take my LDL down to zero if I have to.
35-70 is the optimal range
👍 #BoycottMeat and all other animal products of cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!
I've been vegan since Nov 2019 and my LDL is somehow 110. Sept 2020 it was 115. I have barely been having any coconut products over the past year, as well. I do eat nut butter, nuts, avocado, olive oil.
No oil!! ❤
Literally *just * thinking about this.
Nicely done!
So, the group that wasn’t eating meat still could have been eating butter, milk, etc?
Yes, we know there were all eating the same amount of dairy and eggs.
I find it bizarre. Like why wouldn't you want to also study a group that doesn't consume ANY cholesterol in a study about the effects of diet on heart disease? It's like they're deliberating being uncurious about veganism, as though it simply could not exist. It's frustrating.
Well said. Almost like intentional attempt to avoid the resulting cognitive dissonance.
@@MictheVegan Man! Imagine the results had they also not been eating those other things. Haha Thanks for all you do. You’re saving lives :)
@@nicolaybastos why would you want to consume 0 cholesterol? thats an excellent way to give yourself a stroke
Aw, I hoped that you would go into more detail about the length of fatty acids.
I heard from Dr Greger that chicken is the main source of cholesterol in the US. It's not that surprising since domestication has made poor broiler chickens morbidly obese.
Dr Greger said that chicken is the main source of sodium in the U.S I think, not cholesterol. Cause main source of cholesterol I thought it was eggs or red meat?
@@sophiatsoulfas4064 Hmm. It could be. I will have to double check that. Chicken is the most consumed meat, however.
Basic rules of thumb; if Greger says it the research and science always says the opposite. The man is a fraud using a non-profit to avoid taxes.
@@DoodlesMcpooh That's a serious accusation. If you have any proof you should report him instead of leaving comments on a UA-cam video, otherwise people will think you're lying.
I love your channel!! Four years vegan and three years watching your channel
You might enjoy Lord of the Rings if fantasy is your thing
When I wasn't vegan my cholesterol was 7.2 and now it's like 4. I don't even eat that healthy and I smoke like a chimney
Great points, Mike
i remember dr greger shared that islander who ate lots of coconuts had high cholesterol, crazy how a plant based whole food could be so unhealthy, not good
Too much of anything can hurt you, but too much knowledge can’t
@@angycucumber4319 It may. Warning, info hazard: my stress levels have peaked since learning about exploding office chairs.
@@angycucumber4319 i beg to differ a little bit lol they dont say ignorance is bliss for nuthin :p
Let's all be the pinnacle of human health like Greger. I hear the meth addict on the corner is giving lectures on careful decision making if you're interested.
Seitan joke was a stretch? Why? Cause gluten is a stretchy protein?
Does saturated fat in cacao affect cholesterol differently to coconut oil?
I think I’ll just wait for an Apple Watch release that scans gut health instead of doing your thing.
Saturated fat does not cause heart disease and never has. What will though? Earth Balance and other vegetable oil products.
I would like to see what nuts do to do LVL/cholesterol
I'll second this!
You can find some videos on nutrition facts website
@@ludicrousone8706
Last time I check the data on this topic he has was all funded by nut industry and was not well done at all
Very bias data
@@huntster4000 He presents the data available and states clearly if there might be a conflict of interest.
@@ludicrousone8706
There is a conflict of interest in the nut videos that I watched that he published
Go check yourself
Tamales made with coconut oil instead of lard tastes so good. 😭
I'm personally more interested in plant saturated fat's effect on insulin and glucose tolerance
Yet you don't give a hoot about all damage your carbohydrate diet is doing...
I fear not the saturated fat found naturally in coconuts or meat.
I fear the polyunsaturated oxidized fat in canola oils made with heat treatment and sodium hydroxide. I fear margarine which is made by hydrogenating plant fats.
yep. animal fats are good, while plant oils are poison
@@GarudaLegends did you even watch the video?
@@Poogoo701 duh
Last time I checked (June 18, 2021, two years eating plant-based diet) my LDL was 80 mg/dL, HDL was 36 mg/dL, total cholesterol 141 mg/dL, and triglycerides 126 mg/dL.
Back in 2016 (omnivore diet) my LDL was 104, HDL 38, total 162, triglycerides 102 mg/dL.
My doctor insists that diet has very little to do with cholesterol levels in blood, hopefully he’s right because I use coconut oil for cooking many things.
Clearly your doctor doesn't understand physiology, you can look up some of the experiments made by Dave Feldman in which he changed his cholesterol levels by more than 100 points by just changing diet in a few days.
@@Gengh13 I agree, and I was not impressed with his overall competence either, and I will be selecting a new primary care physician in the near future.
your omnivore bloods are better but not by much. my guess is you're consuming too many seed oils and PUFAs
@@conorrclark8274 seed oils? Like grape seed or rape seed? I don’t use them much. Mostly I cook with olive oil and coconut oil.
But you may have misread what I wrote regarding numbers, my point was that my doctor (who wanted to put me on statins) argued that diet and blood cholesterol are not closely correlated, yet when I stopped eating animal proteins and animal fats, my total cholesterol and triglycerides levels when down.
@@jpe1 canola, rapeseed, sunflower. do yourself a favour and watch this video, ua-cam.com/video/7kGnfXXIKZM/v-deo.html the answer might be in there somewhere. also low cholesterol is a myth, LDL is irrelevant so long as triglycerides are low and HDL is fine. a study on 12.8 million koreans found the optimum cholesterol for lowest all cause mortality was 210-240mg/dL. additionally olive oil have a really low smoke point which isnt ideal if you're cooking with it. i dont know if you're vegan or not, but if you are the best is avocado oil, it is the most expensive but has the highest smoke point. if you're not a vegan then the best is ghee and tallow. just please be careful listening to this guy, he is spreading a LOT of misinformation
I’ve come off of being illness since March. I’m going to have surgery soon. I’ve added meat to my diet to get my body ready. My meat is carefully chosen. My cholesterol is low, my LDL has always been high. Even as a biathlete. I’m no longer physically fit. Perhaps my efforts to regain strength and health by going to meat is wrong thinking. I’ve been a vegan for 8 years now. I don’t have the energy to make healthy meals. I don’t like fake meats. Any good suggestions.
You could eat poultry with little to no saturated fat if you desired. How would the lipid profile respond?
Are those shells on the wall behind you? I keep looking at wall trying to figure out what are those odd shaped.
Leaves. It’s been around for quite some time ( and when we don’t see them for a while, complaints are lodged 😁 )
Hi Mic I wonder it is true that coconut oil causes high LDL? I consume quite a bit of my foods cooked from fresh coconut milk and my LDL for years is about 1.8 mmol/l.
The question is, if you switch from coconut milk to coconut oil would it go up? My guess is yes.
What about dark chocolate? It has loooaaads of saturated fat
Chocolate is 30% saturated fat, coconut oil il about 90% saturzted fat
I only wish more people would know this and value their health more. Also doctors should be taught this
Yes let's teach doctors the wrong information. Maybe we should also go back to treating everything with leaches too... Wow
@@DoodlesMcpooh bad comparison, as it's factually wrong. I see it's self evident you know nothing about nutritional sciences, or just believe you do while having been taught disinformation... Disappointment how dumb humanity is... I am a scientist. And I can tell you, micthevegan is doing a great job with evidence basis
@@ShadowZZZ Analogy, not comparison. Mic lies and cherry picks everything. I challenge you to fact check him outside of your vegan bubble.
interesting to see the white meat group ate more cholesterol than the red meat group when i think a lot of people would think white meat is healthier in that aspect
Coconut oil, cocoa butter, palm oil: to be consumed in a small amount.
Hey Mic, loved the loser joke! (I think I dated him for a bit!) There is so much info now about not necessarily the saturation of the oils, but that it is very inflammatory. And that that is the real reason for so much health problems. How does that issue fit into this video and findings?
I do wonder if these studies get screened by the manner in which the food is cooked. As a large majority of meat is fried, or grilled, oxidation or charring of foods could be one factor leading to some of the increased risk factors from meat.
You'd actually need science proving there are risk factors for meat first. None currently exist. Ask someone in your special group to explain Google to you and help you with the big words.
Have you done a vid on coconut milk Mic?
Mic, you are always awesome and I always agree with you however, if this is true that both fats animal and plant fats, should be used sparingly, my question is why people in Europe and other countries, eat a lot of meat and cheese and have less heart disease and they consume a lot of saturated fat? I am genuinely curious... By the way, I have been Vegan for 13 years.
Aka the French Paradox. One explanation is that CHD is under reported in France vs other countries. Eating healthier foods, walking more, and less stress are probably contributing factors as well.
They do eat a lot of fat in the form of dairy, but they don't tend to eat as much meat as US folks. But as the other poster commented, there are other counter balancing factors. If anyone thinks that health or lack thereof is only ever just one thing, typically they are pretty clueless. It is a very holistic area with many contributing factors.
My LDL was high and not of the good kind. The reason? High sugar intake and refined bread. Trying to rectify this now. So, high LDL can be caused by other reasons beyond dietary fat intake.
Are you ok? Is like you’ve died inside and left a talking shell
Probably found it difficult to lie for an entire video.
Plant based is so strict and complicated, eat fats, dont eat fats, avocados is good, too, dont eat avocados.. aargh
Avocados and plant-based fats are fine. Any more complicated is a bonus and not necessarily vegan based rules.
I'm confused, because to produce estrogen, allegedly you need cholesterol. It's said that without it you're infertile. How can a vegan female remain fertile? This is a question, not a critique. I'd appreciate a video on this topic. Thank you.
Your body produces cholesterol 😊
@@belindaknowles7440 your body provides up to 80% of your required cholesterol. Using a smug emoji is hilarious when you're so wrong. Can I suggest the parrot one in future as you just repeat rubbish without fact checking.
Soaponslope it wasn’t smug. I always try to make sure people know I’m not being a jerk when I post anything. If you are looking for an argument, look elsewhere. Have a nice day😊 And if you read my post, I said your body produces cholesterol. You can read and process what you read, right?
@@belindaknowles7440 no argument but factual accuracy is important. 80% next time. 80%!!!
Although I eat a WFPB vegan regimen I had to quit the nuts to get my cholesterol under 150 and proportionally lower the LDL. Interestingly, my GI functions much better when on the much lower fat nut free version. Avoiding oil is easy, but nuts?? Is Jeff Novick right about the detrimental effects of the high saturated fat from nuts? I wonder because being an off and on nut addict I am finding a correlation with the fat calories and numerous issues of concern. The 1950 Okinawan diet was only 6% fat. That's pretty low, mister! Are we vegans kidding ourselves about our fats. If the results of that study had shown rock bottom LDL for the plant portion I would stop worrying, but that minor difference is unconvincing. Am I the only one?
The "plant people" in the study were still eating dairy and eggs, so it wasn't at any point a study on vegans! Just their meat was replaced with "non meat".
@@ChrisJWinn Yes, good point, of course. Thank you. But I also had a nut "hangover" this morning after eating a bowl of peanuts. I just do better without the added fats and my numbers look better too. Not to say I don't eat plenty of nuts...haha.. how soon we forget!!!
@@woody3307 I've quit the oil and nuts too. Teaspoon of chia seeds for omegas and that's it. Have started adding table sugar to my meals.
As a physician, I freaking looooooove this article! I have been quoting since it came out. I love how data will change some people, but others are so religiously bought into meat that they can’t see the truth through their taste buds. I like that this is a good quality article and well done. And to some of the other comments, actively reducing cholesterol requires not just plant based, but removal of plant saturated fats like coconut, having high fiber and specifically including compounds to reduce cholesterol
Hope you're not allowed near patients.
That food you showed at the end..... I need that :P
So mouthwatering!
How much better would it be if for arguments sake they added in a whole foods plant based group in there!
I'm going to spell your name Myc from now on LOL. Thanks for this vid, I've been wondering about this subject and you made this vid for my birthday!
Shame he make you a video based on actual science or how your birthday cake wouldn't have tasted of failure and disappointment if it had been made with eggs.
@@DoodlesMcpooh I don't understand this comment.
Veggies have fat but it’s less than meat.
Couldn't "non-meat" mean eggs and dairy are included?
Spot on
Saturated fat is the healthiest fat. Preferably from animals.
It’s not. It clogs your arteries and it can cause heart attacks.
@@angycucumber4319 Dietary fat does not effect blood seirum levels.
@@angycucumber4319 wow, if you took just a moment away from identifying as a vegetable you could Google things and realise what you claim is completely impossible. Just look up how fat is transported in the bloodstream then register yourself at the nearest Kindergarten